Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencher

[Roland Houin]

We have one in every vehicle.
much better than shovels,
stong enought to last
 
Roland
 
 
> I thought this device looked interesting. Soil conditions obviously make adifference in how well it works. Kind of like the edger but modified for thewire purpose and more rugged. Chuck could probably build and sell these foreveryone pretty reasonable or just go to your local welder and have them makeone for you.https://youtu.be/kNqOXul-GOQThank You,Brian Websterwww.wirelessmapping.comwww.Broadband-Mapping.comFrom: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve JonesSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:33 PM
To: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencherIve cut enough sod and hand trenched all im going to do anymore. Same reason ibought a compactor and quit hand tamping limeOn Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 2:34 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:Then there's the manual version:T-Handle Trench ShovelI've used a flat spade. Stab into ground, jump on it so it goes all the way in,pull it out, move down a few inches, jump on it again. You end up with a skinnyslot. Shove cable into theslot, stomp your boots on it to close the slot backup.-- Original Message --From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.comSent: 4/11/2018 3:29:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencherYeah I was gonna say an edger is about the cheapest thing.Only goes a few inches deep, but that's all you need.-- Original Message --From: "Jon Lee" To: af@afmug.comSent: 4/11/2018 1:25:27 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencherDon't know if this would apply, but in the past I have used a sidewalk edger toinstall an "Invisible Fence" for dogs.-JonOff-Grid NetworksOn Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, David Coudron wrote:We have been looking for something better as well and found the one youmentioned. There are some pretty neat walk behind products out there too, but
more money and not very convenient. Today we use lawn edgers, which only getthe cable down about 1.5”. It seems to be far enough, but would like it to be alittle deeper. We also use an inhouse built mini-plow device that goes behind alawn mower or 4 wheeler. That works pretty good, but is not convenient as wehave to pull to the site on a trailer. However, we can plow in 300 ft in about10 minutes with that. It has a spool holder and everything. . The shovel works,but is painfully slow and when the grass is really dry, it kills the grass asit dries out the sod that was flipped over.For right now we are batching up the work and pulling a 4-wheeler to the sitewith the mini-plow, or if it is a one off situation, we use the hand held lawnedger.
https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LE750-Landscape-Trencher/dp/B4DTNH?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q=duckduckgo-ffab-20=xm2=2025ative=165953=B4DTNHA sawsall based product or similar would be ideal as the tech could always haveit with them.Thanks,David CoudronFrom: Af  On Behalf Of Steve JonesSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:10 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hg04CmggTMlike thisbut not 2 grandOn Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
A shovel? Push the shovel down, flip the grass on it's top. Continue for lengthof run. Lay cable. Flip grass back over. Push down with foot.You can't even tell the grass was disturbed when doneOn Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 11:59 AM Steve Jones  wrote:For these residential deals, we occasionally lose out on new customers becausethey dont want to trench cable themselves.For this purpose it really only need 4 to 8 inches, just to stay under the sod.Is there a device that attaches to a drill or sawzall? Maybe a chainsaw modifiedbar or a bucksaw trenching blade?Not looking to get into a whole trencher, just something that ideally would fitin the truck on a shelf--Jon LeeOff-Grid Networksc.928.793.2972 <

Re: [AFMUG] USF on interstate wave

[Roland Houin]

we had a circuit through giglinx.
they sold to gtt, we are now being hit with usf & other fees of over 1,000.
none of the fees including usf with giglinx
no talking to gtt..
 
Roland
 
 
> I am very interested in this question as well. Looking to understand the rulesof which USF taxes is not in place. We have some fiber leases coming up where Iwant to structure things properlyFrom: Af  On Behalf Of Carl PetersonSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:45 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: [AFMUG] USF on interstate waveI know this has been covered before... Got hit with a pretty substantial USFsurcharge on a wave by Centurylink even after getting all taxes and feesestimated ahead of time by Level3. USF wasn't in there but now they are sayingpound sand.This is a wave between data centers. Just used for internet. We don't sell VOIP.Is there a way out of this? Is USF appropriate on a wave with no phone service
is involved? Its kind of crazy at 21%<

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

[Roland Houin]

how do you orbit a flat earth.
 
roland
 
> I would love it if they were able to get it in orbit.On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:> No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it wouldn't launch when they> tried.>> But wait... you're trying to tell me the Earth really isn't flat??>> On Feb 18, 2018 1:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote: Did they ever get their rocket to fly to prove Earth is flat? Forget>> physics, math and science...trust your eyes Jaime Solorza On Feb 18, 2018 12:20 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote: You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Robert  wrote:
>> Could be phoning home, but now I've got s/w trying to phone into my DNS>>> servers...>> On 2/18/18 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: You sure it is not just the camera phoning home for a software update? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... Frick'n peoples republic. So I bought a couple of those $300 PTZ cameras. & my monitoring system saw some attempts to intrude from
 inside my network. So I am now on the alert and when the cameras start up I see some traffic when there shouldn't be. It's the cameras reaching out from the 10 net... To this address Now I have to consider part of my core compromised... whois 112.124.0.188 # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # 
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Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

[Roland Houin]

I have a pressure sensor coming.
will try connecting it to a sitemonitor..
 
Roland
 
> I have used submersible pressure on municipal water tank telemetry many times.I guess it would work equally well in a lake..433 psi per foot.From: Jaime SolorzaSent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:10 PMTo: Animal FarmSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoringYou could use a stilling well with ultrasonic, or a submersible pressure, youcould do a capacitance probeJaime SolorzaOn Feb 17, 2018 9:12 AM, "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:I saw a system that used the same system for Water tower level measuringInstalled a screened culvert vertical, about two feet off the bottom to stopwave action and device float inside the culvert and a PLC controller with aradio linkIt seemed to work very well
You might want to check and see what is used for sewer ponds as wellMitchOn 2/16/2018 3:51 PM, Roland Houin wrote:I have a customer needing to monitor lake levelsneed accurate method (gps hopefully) to measure level above msl.Anybody have any suggestions?Roland HouinFourway.Net <

Re: [AFMUG] PTP820C radios not booting up - ideas?

[Roland Houin]

Agree, could be inadequate power.
when activating the second core, it takes more power..
we have tried using sync injectors, work with 1 core, too much load for 2nd core.
 
Roland
 
 
> Sounds like a watchdog timer or a power supply overheating and folding.From: Bill PrinceSent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 8:41 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP820C radios not booting up - ideas?If I'm reading this right, it worked at some point where you could configure it?This implies that something is wonky in your configuration. If you have itconnected to a Mikrotik, you could scan for IPs and/or MAC addresses to see ifit somehow is changing its IP or something.Is someone onsite to check, or is this all happening remotely?bpOn 2/17/2018 3:19 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:So we have a new (i.e. put into production in the last couple of days) pair of
820C radios. I discovered earlier tonight that XPIC was not enabled on theradios, limiting throughput.In the process of enabling XPIC, we made some changes to the config, rebootedboth ends, and now neither end will boot fully. We see the interfaces come upfor about 30 seconds every 2.5 minutes, then they drop off and the cyclerepeats.We've tried power cycling both ends. We've tried powering off one end in hopesit was related to the radios talking to each other.We have also attempted to get in with the 'splitter cable' on the managementport. Using the provided IP addresses, we get a few pings out of the radio eachcycle on the 'recovery port' (like 4), but are not able to start a web sessionat all. I haven't put a packet sniffer on it to see if it responds to the SYN
packet or not, but it sure doesn't seem like it even starts a connection (justtimes out).In the hopes that SNMP was coming up during this time and I could issue a configreset via SNMP, we also tried to do a SNMP put and a SNMP get (at differenttimes) with the community string we configured the radios with, and it seemslike SNMP is not responding either.I'm going to get some sleep now, and try again tomorrow. We've opened up aticket with Cambium support but I'm not getting any meaningful response out ofthem, and because of the timing, they're unable or unwilling to escalate beyondlevel one.I'm hoping someone has been through this and knows the magic solution Anyideas?--Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com<

Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

[Roland Houin]

I was hoping I could just put a syncpipe in a bag & use the gps for elevation.
might not last very long or be very accurate.


Roland

> Hmmm. Many of those monitoring stations have a culvert installed vertically
to stop wave action.
Not sure if they have a float system or what in the culvert. I have used
ultrasonic sensors to measure water levels in a water tank before.

-Original Message-
From: Roland Houin
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:51 PM
To: afmug
Subject: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

I have a customer needing to monitor lake levels
need accurate method (gps hopefully) to measure level above msl.

Anybody have any suggestions?

Roland Houin
Fourway.Net <

[AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

[Roland Houin]

I have a customer needing to monitor lake levels
need accurate method (gps hopefully) to measure level above msl.


Anybody have any suggestions?


Roland Houin
Fourway.Net

Re: [AFMUG] Tycon Injectors

[Roland Houin]

we've been using the packetflux gigabit sync injectors
work well with the 820s
the 820c draws too much power
 
Roland
 
 
> Could probably spin a version. What is special about this injector?From: Mark FrostSent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:00 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Tycon InjectorsHi All,Happy NY.Thanks to everyone for the assistance on the injector front.Is anyone aware of third party injectors that happily power (from a 48VDC/24VDCsource) the Cambium 820S units? The Cambium ones are nice, but not really costeffective. I’m not exactly sure on the POE pin-outs...asking Cambium themselveshasn’t ended in success.Cheers,MarkOn 5 Dec 2017, at 02:45, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:The units I described are all 4 port units, except for the single port
nonmanaged gig injector which is coming as soon as we can get the stufftogether to put it on the web. They are all specifically designed for smallsites.On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Mark Frost  wrote:Nice, thanks for the info.Our biggest issue is that not all radios are in the on physical location – somesites may only have 1 or 2 units.From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (ListAccount)Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:45To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tycon InjectorsThe product you're looking for is the packetflux powerinjector plus sync. You'llneed the external dc to dc converter. You can jumper each port for different
pinning and power source, so you can end up with native poe pinning for eachradio type.Add a din rail mounting kit to din rail mount it.Add a SiteMonitor base unit, and you get remote power control.Add a syncbox junior and you can do sync over power for the 450, assuming it'san AP.If you're looking for something noncontrolled, I (PacketFlux) also have a 4 port10/100 poe injector which is din rail mounted and inexpensive. There's also asingle port and 4 port gigabit one coming like any day now (product is done,just have to get them on the website)Chuck also has surge suppressors you can din mount and use as a poe injector.Also jumperable.On Dec 4, 2017 8:28 AM, "Mark Frost"  wrote:Hi All,Long-time lurker.
Is anyone able to assist with the make/model of Tycon POE Injectors that arerequired for the below make and model of radios? I’m having a hard time gettingmy head around the Tycon part numbers. UBNT doesn’t make it easy either the waythey swap 24/48.My goal is to be able to come straight of a 48VDC rectifier/battery set-up. Ifthe unit is 24V, ideally I’d like the 48-24 to be done by the Injector, but canrun it though an isolated step-down if required.* Cambium 450* UBNT AirFiber24* UBNT Rocket 5AC PTP* UBNT AF-5X* UBNT R5AC-PRISMIs it true that some of the AirFiber24 Units are 48, and others 24?Not 100% on Tycon. Utopia is something that is DIN mountable, but feel I may bepushing it!Cheers,Mark--Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com<

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 5ghz AP possible case water intrusion

[Roland Houin]

yes, we've had a few..

roland


> I'm investigating a PMP450 5ghz AP (old unit - the original ones that came
with the FSK port) that failed on the tower. RJ45 and especially RJ12 ports
have white dots on the pins. Looking in the case, there seems to be evidence of
water intrusion coming from the little temperature/humidity control
membrane-covered hole in back. But a quick test of dripping water on the case
does not cause water intrusion in that hole. Has anyone else seen such issues
with older PMP450 APs? <

Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

[Roland Houin]

you will need a license to use the sfp port.

roland


> What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port. It is
set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable
and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets. Hopefully with a
reset it will at least work on the copper port. <

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

[Roland Houin]

filed mine earlier today.

roland houin
fourway.net

> Anyone else doing this

http://files.constantcontact.com/d4d6cd6a501/40256872-b6da-4840-b79d-61e11153534
7.pdf

-- <

[AFMUG] rf elements horn with cambium 450 ap

[Roland Houin]

does anyone know if rf elements makes an adapter (N Connectors) to allow us to 
use their horn angenna with cambium 450 ap's

Roland Houin
Fourway.Net

Re: [AFMUG] Advantage FSK Keys

[Roland Houin]

as long as it's a p9 or later
if you can still purchase
 
roland
 
 
 
> isn't 5250 what a 5200 essentially becomes?On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:Can you upgrade a 5200 radio to a 5250 with a software key? <

Re: [AFMUG] Connectors for CCR1009

[Roland Houin]

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/3-640429-3/A31241-ND/696763
 
allied carries them, but has no stock.
 
roland
 
> Why not just use the PoE in port? That’s what we do.Dave==MERCURY NETWORK CORPORATIONDavid Sovereen989-837-3790 x 1512719 Ashman St Ste 1, Midland, MI 48640-4434http://www.mercury.netOn Jun 8, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:We have some rack mount Mikrotik CCR1009s that we are converting to 24v(bypassing the little 110 dual power supply module)Looking for these connectors. Obviously, they look very common. Thought someonemight know of the exact connector. They are .5” wide x .25” tallPaulPaul McCall, PresidentPDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.658 Old Dixie HighwayVero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800pa...@pdmnet.netwww.pdmnet.comwww.floridabroadband.com<

[AFMUG] WTB PTP800 ODU-B for 011325 Mhz

[Roland Houin]

I need a cambium ODU-B for 011325 Mhz
need only one unit new/used
not available from cambium, apparently
not emergency, but needed to switch to 80mhz channel


Roland Houin
rho...@fourway.net
574-220-7720

Re: [AFMUG] 450 APs

[Roland Houin]

nope, but the mounting pattern is the same
 
roland
 
> nopeFrom: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:34 AMTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] 450 APsI just got an order for a bunch of these:http://www.mccowntech.com/800-m-tow-450-cambium-450-ap-tower-mount/and these:http://www.mccowntech.com/800-m-tow-angle-450-cambium-450-ap-angle-iron-tower-mount/I just want to make sure this is the current and will be the current 450 AP formfactor.
For some reason I thought Cambium was moving away from this design.I just don’t want to sell something to a distributor that may end up being staleproduct.Is this still what the 450 AP looks like?Gino A. VillariniPresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <

[AFMUG] sync injector error codes

[Roland Houin]

does anyone (forrest) know the error codes for sync injectors..
we have a couple that are blinking rapidly (6 times)..

roland

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

[Roland Houin]

we had a 450 fail due to water intrusion too.
it was in warranty,
at first they didn't want to cover under warranty, (said we didn't weatherseal the connectors).
after a bit of complaining they did cover it.
 
Roland
 
 
 
> We too had a similar issue. 450AP full of water. We took it apart and drainedit and let sit dry. The AP booted up just fine but failed a few days later onthe bench. We got the same response. "Out of warranty".On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Matt Hopkins  wrote:We had one of many 450i up on a tower for a little over a year and one day itwas just offline without any warning. We are located in Northwestern Oregon sowe get plenty of rain. Upon investigation the metal case of the radio was notsealed all the way and water slowly seeped in. The unit was full to the topwith water. By this time Cambium stated that it was out of warranty and we wereburnt. I don't know how many of these units we have in the air are affected.
This one is the only one that has died in such a fashion so far. Prior to thisI wasn't really inspecting these for this issue and would have thought nothingof it. The seal must be farther inside, right?Today I was unpacking one new in box and noticed the very same issue, since nowI look for this. We only use the connectorized version so I don't know if thisissue is contained or morewidespread. Just wanted to throw out a heads up toeveryone to keep an eye out for this since I got exactly nowhere with Cambium.I am not trying to pick on Cambium, just bring a recurring issue to light.This is a pic of the fried one that was in service for a year:This is a pic of the brand new one I took out of the box today next to one thatlooks fine:--Matt HopkinsNetwork Administrator503.687.1030
supp...@onlinenw.comonlinenw.com <

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz Standard Gain Antenna

[Roland Houin]

that would make a good welding hood.

roland

> Was playing Tetris at my shop today to fit in some more equipment. My wife
wants to keep this antenna. I have no sentimental attachment to it. But I
thought I would snap a photo before it goes in the dumpster. <

Re: [AFMUG] Linktechs POE

[Roland Houin]

we've used a couple of the italian variant (we purchased from italy)
seem a bit fragile, I have a couple on my desk..(failed, likely dropped)
we use them primarily for cambium equipment.
 
Roland
 
> Has anyone tried this? Like it? Don't like it?http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2251= <

Re: [AFMUG] Control Slots on Canopy

[Roland Houin]

you can adjust the range/download percentage.
for us it would be too difficult to manage the number of ap's 100's & 450's..
just keep range/download the same as 100 series, double the slots, perfect match to sync
 
roland
 
> can't you adjust the distance to make them sync as well if you don't want toadd more control slots? It is my understanding that the main problem thatarises from not having enough control slots on a heavily loaded APis that newSM's take longer to register to the AP but once they are registered it is fine.On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Roland Houin <rho...@fourway.net> wrote:we use 4 too.needs to be 2x what you use on 100 series if you want them to sync.roland> We have always set our control slots to 3 on all our canopy platform.I just read in a Cambium notes file that control slots should be set to 4.I have a competitor that is running 6.What is the best setting on a 20 Mhz channel on the 450? 20M with 75% downlink.
What is the tradeoff with the change of the control slot in setting?Cheers,Andreas Wiatowski, CEOSilo Wireless Inc.519-449-5656 x-600< <

Re: [AFMUG] Control Slots on Canopy

[Roland Houin]

we use 4 too.
needs to be 2x what you use on 100 series if you want them to sync.

roland


> We have always set our control slots to 3 on all our canopy platform.

I just read in a Cambium notes file that control slots should be set to 4.
I have a competitor that is running 6.

What is the best setting on a 20 Mhz channel on the 450? 20M with 75% downlink.
What is the tradeoff with the change of the control slot in setting?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
519-449-5656 x-600
<

Re: [AFMUG] Traffic dropping to zero for a fraction of a second

[Roland Houin]

probably 32 bit counter on traffic, rolling over.


Roland

> I have 2 peers, one CCR and 2 backhauls connected to a 10G switch that I've
recently installed, prior to installing the 10G switch everything functioned
normally (had a CCR1009, now CCR1036), currently during peak periods of traffic
my traffic will go from 1500mbps to 0mbps for just a instant then back to
1500mbps, other times it goes from 1500mbps to 750mbps and back to 1500.
Sometimes it happens 30 times a minute sometimes 2 times per hour.

I've swapped the switch, sfp's...

Anyone with any remotely plausible idea would be greatly appreciated <

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

[Roland Houin]

3400 for 100 mile, windstream via gigalinx
5 year term

roland

> What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it may
be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently
could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through sales
channel? <

[AFMUG] Service in Coatsville IN

[Roland Houin]

does anyone service

Coatsville, In 46121 at
2518 South County Road 550 West.

We have a customer who moved from our area to Coatsville.
desperate for service

Roland Houin
Fourway.Net

Re: [AFMUG] License Keys

[Roland Houin]

I normally get them within 15 minutes.

roland

> How long does it take to get a license key for a PTP820s?

I�ve been waiting about 30 min so far <

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if no SM sessions

[Roland Houin]

we had a similar situation, although we never lost communication with the ap.
eventually traced to a customer's router (damaged by lightning?).
setting sm's to nat mode allowed us to narrow down to specific cust..
 
Roland
 
> Well, “stupid things start happening” seems apt. Maybe it just didn’t cause awatchdog reset. Like the stupid people who still manage to dress themselves,drive cars, vote, and generally defy Darwin.Power cycling it via the Packetflux POE would briefly bring it back, but onlyuntil SMs started registering. If we logged in during that timeframe andchanged the config so that SMs would not register, then it would stayup.This same AP screwed up last Sunday morning for a couple hours, intermittentlyup and down until it started working again on its own.From: George SkorupSent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:40 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if noSM sessions
It could be related to the 13.x FPGA memory controller bug, but I haven't seenthis specific problem on dozens of APs. I definitely know the memory bug when Isee it because stupid things start happening and the AP has to be rebooted. Butthe AP becoming completely unresponsive while the ethernet statistics all lookfine is not one of them. Anything is possible though.If it happens again even on 14.1.2, I would try to bounce the ethernet link andsee if that does anything. I have seen a lot of that especially with MikroTik +Canopy. Fairly frequent with P9 and P10 FSK APs. Chuck's surge suppressors seemto add to the problem, but I can live with that.Also, I know that I'm getting about 20 volts at the radios on a couple clustersthat are on ~300 feet of cable, SyncInjector fed by a 24v regulated power
supply with the pot set at 25 volts (due to UBNT radios on shorter runs). The450 APs seem to handle it fine.On 7/6/2016 8:15 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:I’d also make sure you have enough power getting up the cable to drive it.From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken HohhofSent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 9:34 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive,doesn't happen if no SMsessionsOK, I just upgraded the AP to 14.1.2 and so far, so good. SMs next.From: Sean HeskettSent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 5:08 PMTo: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if noSM sessionsi would upgrade the AP and all SMs to 14.1.2 (it's a very stable release)if it exhibits these issues once SMs start to register are you sure that you arenot somehow creating a network loop through an SM, or some client is launchinga DDoS and the subject of a DDoS attack?On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:Does this sound like any kind of a known issue?I have a 450 AP that has been in service for about a year that has startedintermittently becoming nonresponsive from the Ethernet side (can't access GUI,doesn't pass traffic). I thought Ethernet problem, but neither the AP nor theswitch shows any errors or events. It is more like the CPU is going to sleep or
something, but the Ethernet chip is still active. I don't see anything in theEvent Log though.We missed applying the Lite to Full license key on this AP and I thought maybethat was the problem since it was at 10 SMs, but I applied the license key andstill see the problem.The weird thing is, if I set the Freq to None, or set the color code tosomething we don't use, the AP doesn't seem to exhibit the problem. Only onceSMs start registering.I'm thinking it's maybe a power starvation issue, that the AP uses more powerwhen actively talking to SMs, and maybe it's not getting enough voltage.But I also see the firmware is still on 13.2.1.3, and I see Cambium finallyreleased 14.1.2 official. I am hesitant to upgrade the firmware though, unlessthere is some reason to believe what I am seeing is a firmware bug. Otherwise I
am just adding to the confusion.<

[AFMUG] TimeClock for workers

[Roland Houin]

what are people using to track time for users (remote & inhouse).
we're doing it manually now, but I would think there have to be some
good phone apps.
it would be nice it if made it easy to import into intuit payroll..

Roland Houin
Fourway.Net

Re: [AFMUG] Battery pack and wifi

[Roland Houin]

we have a couple of them.
they work fine, except the smaller one won't power a canopy 3.65sm
the larger one seems to work fine..
 
Roland
 
 
> Anyone using these or have another US based version?http://www.gevaelettronica.it/shop/index.php?id_product=1=product_lang=2I am looking for something the installers can tune Epmp with using tablets orphones. Not sure how I would deal with different IP structures based on thetower they are installing on but I bet you guys have ideas on thatas well.Best regards,Brandon YuchaszGogebicRange.netwww.gogebicrange.net<

Re: [AFMUG] Kp dual band sectors

[Roland Houin]

we've had good luck with both the 2.4/5ghz & the 3.65/5gh
they do just what you'd expect.
the biggest issue is the mounting of the radio's,
we're experimenting with different methods of mounting them.
installing several more this week.

roland


> 2.4/5gh 90d sectors specifically.
I am looking at these for a new deployment.
Does anyone have any real world opinions/experiences they would be
willing to share? <

Re: [AFMUG] 450 Traffic in PRTG

[Roland Houin]

that is due to the 32 bit counter.
It rolls over & causes the dip in traffic.
I have been unable to use 64 bit counters on the 100 series or the 450 series
works fine on epmp., ptp800, etc.

Roland


> In our Live Data graphs for our 450 Traffic in PRTG, I am noticing the traffic
will dip to 0 for a brief moment and then go back up to normal. It happens on
all the450s that we are graphing and occurs about every 20 minutes.

Has anyone experienced this in PRTG and been able to fix it? I have tried
setting the update interval lower from 30 to 10 seconds and still see the same
issue.

Update interval at 30 seconds:

Testing this morning at 10 second intervals:

Breakdown:

Thanks,
David Griffin <

Re: [AFMUG] Trenching, drilling, plowing

[Roland Houin]

careful with pull tape in plowed in fiber.
we plowed in some (pulling the fiber as we plowed.)
this stretched the duct & when we cut the duct to go under the road, the pull tape would get pulled into the conduit.
we had to pull it out & blow a pull tape in anyway.
 
 
roland
 
> Yeah the blowing machine is expensive, but the company selling the HDPEconduit can put a pull tape (up to 5000 lb) into the conduit for extra money.If I only have to add pull tape to bored sections under driveways, I can dothat easily with a fish tape. Then I'd use a capstan to pull the whole runthrough.For background, I'm looking at a relatively small project: about a mile. That'swhy one machine that plows and drills seems attractive on the surfaceandwhy more cost for a conduit with a pull tape already in looks better to me thana blowing machine.On depth I don't really know for sure. Good question. I have a few differentconflicting sources.On 4/6/2016 11:39 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:You can definitely plow in conduit. If you're going to do it that way you would
want to look into blowing in the fiber after all the conduit is placed. This isa nice approach because you can splice/couple conduit very easily so the switchbetween plow and drill is not a big deal. Then once all the conduit is in theground and coupled together, you can blow fiber in through the whole run in oneshot. The blowing equipment is fairly expensive but I would think you canrentthat.Do you have a requirement for how deep you need to be placing your cable? Asmall plow like that could pull short sections of conduit at 18" or maybe up to24" deep. If you need to go any deeper you'll need a much larger plow.On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:That's good advice, thanks.I see what you're saying about laying out the whole run at the first obstruction
and what a pain that would be.I pictured plowing in an HDPE conduit with a pull tape in it rather than plowingcable directly into the ground. So I'd be pulling the entire run off a reeltrailer either way. At the moment this projectexists mostly in my imaginationso if plowing in conduit is a dumb idea, this would be a perfect time to tellme. :)The discussion about whether you should drill or plow a certain stretch issubjective. Remember that every time you plow and need to go under an obstacleyou have to figure 8 the whole cable run, or cut and have a splice point there.That can be a lot of labor if you're trying to keep a long run intact.Personally, when we are running in a rural area, if we have driveways every200-400ft we drill that area. If we can go 800ft or more without obstructionsthen we plow that.Chris <

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

[Roland Houin]

how about selling unit with 1 module set & allow us to expand to full capacity.
that way I can standardize even small sites, which can grow..

Roland

> Well, it looks like it might actually be finally happening.

We are about 98% sure we have a rackmount enclosure manufacturer which we can
work with. Domestic. Product looks decent. Price is right.

Which means it's time to nail down a few details here, such as number of ports,
so I can get some enclosures cut and boards made and hopefully get this
elephant out of the room

So I need some input:

The rough figures I'm working with here is $800 for a 18 port rackmount power
injector. Voltage and pinning jumper selectable per port. Per-port control of
power and sync. Probably some redundant power and other things built in, but
I'm still nailing those details down (a lot of it comes down to space on the
front panel of the enclosure).

PLEASE NOTE: The prices here are soft - until I get the design completed I won't
know what I can sell this for - as many of you know I try to price things at a
fair price as opposed to what the market will bear.

The main questions I have for the list are:

Is 18 the correct number of ports? 18 is looking like about the most I can fit
based on front panel dimensions. This corresponds to 3 blocks of 6 ports (if
you lose a port and need to replace it, you'd replace 6 at a time).

Other options are 16 (4 blocks of 4), and pretty much any smaller quantities of
ports which are divisible by 4 or 6.

I guess what I'm really asking here is whether the 18 port version for $800 is
the only version of this I should make or carry, or does it make sense to sell
(as an example) an 8 port version for $400 instead of or in addition to this?

--

Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

<

Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or Alternative

[Roland Houin]

you only need 25 to do that with canopy..
 
roland
 
> Where are you that there is 4 x 10 MHz of spectrum in 900, legal to use?On Feb 29, 2016 6:54 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:It would be a bear to get it mounted on the towers . I asked more out ofcuriosity. We use omni antennas as a fall back if a sector fails. Since we areconverting existing towers and deploying new towers with 450i 900 I would loveto run4 90 degree sectors with an omni above or below them. 10mhz channels onthe sectors and a 5mhz on the omni. We try and have redundancy on every AP andbackhaul I just have not settled on a good way to do it with the 450i 900 yet.Best regards,Brandon YuchaszGogebicRange.netwww.gogebicrange.netFrom: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken HohhofSent: Monday, February 29, 2016 4:19 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeWhat Chuck is talking about would I guess be similar to this:http://alphaantennas.com/products/small-cells/aw3464/I’d hate to see that thing twice as big.From: Eric KuhnkeSent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:57 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeI'm imagining a 900 MHz yagi arms race with 6' length and a whole cast ironbathtub behind the mounting for rear/side shielding.
The rf armor guy will probably sell a kit for $899...On Feb 29, 2016 8:50 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:Roughly double the size for every 3 dB improvement in gain.From: Brandon YuchaszSent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:49 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeChuck how big would an antenna have to get to get up into the 9 or 10 dB range?Best regards,Brandon YuchaszGogebicRange.netwww.gogebicrange.netFrom: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCownSent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 5:01 PMTo: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeDepends on gain. 6 dB would probably be 5 feet tall.From: Mathew HowardSent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:00 PMTo: afSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeHow tall would something like that be?On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:I did a nice 6 dB H pol omni a few years ago. Never released it. I could do adual slant 900 omni. It would be probably 8 inches in diameter.From: Chuck HoggSent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:51 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or Alternative9dB is what we have now.Regards,ChuckOn Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
How much gain are you looking for?From: Chuck HoggSent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:36 PMTo: af@afmug.com  memb...@wispa.orgSubject: [AFMUG] Laird ODH9-9 or AlternativeHello:I recently just tried to get an ODH9-9 900MHz Horizontal Omni, to find out theyquit making it. Every few years they have to be replaced because the internalsrust out, but we are used to identifying the issue and replacing them when ithappens.So, does anyone have any NIB ODH9-9 omnis they are willing to part with? Or am Igoing to have to switch to Amphenol?Regards,Chuck<

Re: [AFMUG] Max Integer on Canopy Out Bytes Counter

[Roland Houin]

it's a 32 bit counter.
should be 64

roland

> I believe its somewhere over the 4GB mark but does anyone know the exact
integer that causes the field to roll over back to 0?

-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support
Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net
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Re: [AFMUG] ARIN Class C Block? Is it possible?

[Roland Houin]

cogent will lease addresses.
75/month per clas c
 
roland
 
 
> I bought 8 blocks via this site.Worked out well.AdamFrom: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh BairdSent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:50 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] ARIN Class C Block? Is it possible?No, but there is a waiting list (good luck). Otherwise, you'll need to get itfrom a third party. Here is one reputable auction site for IPv4:http://www.ipv4auctions.com/On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:Is it possible to still get a /24 block from ARIN? If not ARIN, anywhere else,like somebody “subleasing” a block somehow?
PaulPaul McCall, Pres.PDMNet / Florida Broadband658 Old Dixie HighwayVero Beach, FL 32962772-564-6800 office772-473-0352 cellwww.pdmnet.compa...@pdmnet.net<

[AFMUG] osha sic codes

[Roland Houin]

does anyone know the appropriate osha Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) 
code for isp work (tower work).


roland

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

[Roland Houin]

try mule tape.
fairly cheap & light.
we've put a bunch on a extension cord reel.
you will need a small weight so when you drop the tape, it doesn't blow in the 
wind too much.

roland

> On some towers, water towers and buildings it's a real pain to bring the rope
up.
I'm wondering if there's some sort of really light rope that would enable us to
bring the whole thing up, drop it, and then pull up a real load rope. My main
concern would be weight and size of 200+ feet of even tiny rope.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 <

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

[Roland Houin]

It certainly would work.
I've done it to eliminate conversion at the top.
 
roland
 
> Yeah, running 48v to the top and then dropping to 24v is what I was planningon doing, but I just got to wondering if the other way would work... the onlyreal advantage being less electronics at the top.On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  wrote:+1 to this. It’s not the volts you have to worry about it’s the amp drop. DCdoesn’t lose much voltage over even a 1000 foot run of 12 gauge. What happensis the wire isnot heavy enough to carry the needed amps. There are somecalculators that say how many amps a certain gauge of wire can carry at suchand such voltage on DC. Most folks we work with are running 10 gauge wire upthe tower in these cases.Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEOxISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidthhttp://www.midwest-ix.com COO/ChairmanInternet Exchange - Peering - Distributed FabricOn Nov 16, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Vince West  wrote:I would recommend using 48v up and down converting to 24v. Depending on how faryou are running it, I would recommend doing 48v also to prevent voltage drop.I am not sure you can even do waht you are asking if you are using somethinglike 16-3 service cord. That goes beyond my knowledge. I would personally downconvert to power two different pieces of equipment.Vince WestTower HandTechnical SupportShelby Broadband148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067Phone: 1-888-364-4232On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:If I have a three conductor cable running up a tower, would it be a work, or bea bad idea, to run both 24v and 48v through the same cable and use the thirdconductor for the return on both? <

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode + emp users wanting to use cnMaestro

[Roland Houin]

yes.
 
roland
 
> Probably a dumb question from someone who knows nothing about cnMaestro:Do the radios (access points, SM, etc) on your network need to communicate withCambium over the internet for this tool to work?On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:2.5 added it.2.5.1 has some fixes and a security hole patch.Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373On Oct 22, 2015 5:19 PM, "Vince West"  wrote:This worked out well for us. I did almost all of my sites yesterday.Just make sure you have a version of software on the APs and SMs that allow forcnMaestro. I am not sure which version added it.Vince WestTower HandTechnical SupportShelby Broadband
148 Citizens BlvdSimpsonville, KY 40067Phone: 1-888-364-4232On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:This might make the adoption part easier for you...http://ram.iam8up.com/?p=42Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373 <

Re: [AFMUG] adjustable DIN for rack

[Roland Houin]

we use a 2 u wall rack bracket (about 20.00).
mount backwards on rack, works well & cheap.
 
roland
 
> 83 bucks?!?!? Is it not possible to take a $9 stamped sheet steel, 2U or 3Urack blank panel and bolt a DIN rail to it? All you have to do is drill 3holes.https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=7263I get that the one you've linked is recessed... That's the main difference.On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816129064=N82E16816129064This is a slick little item, a little pricey for just a din rail. Ive been
looking for something to offset DIN products, like packetflux gear in ourbigger enclosures where we have 18 inch deep racks, we can put the DIN on thefront because the gear would hit the door, and putting it clear at the back ofthe enclosure would make it a bitch to get to.Any body know of an offset I'm the 20-30 dollar price range? I'm consideringjust cutting sections of rack and fastening it to the back of the front rack toget a backward offset.Another thing I'm looking for is 2-4u adjustable depth wall mount racks for ourHoffman enclosures that are 36x36x11. I have been cutting racks into 4u lengthsand using the 10 billion tranzeo L brackets to set them out 6 inches, but ittakes about 2 hours per rack assembly and looks like shit. plus the depthdoesn't allow for the mikrotik to be rackmounted, I have shallow 10 inch
shelves that I can set them on, but it makes the enclosure still sloppyI found one 6-12 inch 2u adjustable, but it was something like 200 bucks, I cantjustify 400 bucks for 4u.any ideas?--If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as partof yourself you have already failed as part of the team. <

Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Roland Houin]

try a j arm upside down.
 
roland
 
 
> Thanks guys, we got a creative solution.Tyson Burris, PresidentInternet Communications Inc.739 Commerce Dr.Franklin, IN 46131317-738-0320 Daytime #317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #Online: www.surfici.netWhat can ICI do for you?Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IPSecurity - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for theaddressee shown. It contains information that isconfidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents byunauthorized organizations or individuals is strictlyprohibited.From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric KuhnkeSent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:00 PMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solutionmounting on what?hacksawsome pieces of unistrutall-thread rod, some washers and nutsHave done the opposite for a PTP link that required extreme downtilt shootingfrom the roof of a 35 floor building to a low warehouse like building <500meters away.On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote:Does anyone have a ‘non redneck solution’ for giving SM’s up tilt when extremelyclose to an AP?Tyson Burris, PresidentInternet Communications Inc.739 Commerce Dr.Franklin, IN 46131
317-738-0320 Daytime #317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #Online: www.surfici.netWhat can ICI do for you?Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IPSecurity - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for theaddressee shown. It contains information that isconfidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents byunauthorized organizations or individuals is strictlyprohibited.No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2015.0.6172 / Virus Database: 4447/10852 - Release Date: 10/19/15 <

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11: Exactly what does the mounting look like?

[Roland Houin]

does that equate to 4 licenses total?
tx v ch1
tx h ch1
tx v ch2
tx v ch2
 
 
 
Roland
 
> Ryan, thanks for the reply, so in order to achieve 1.5 Gbps in the link I need320 mhz of spectrum???On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ryan Rowley  wrote:Hey Gino,B11 uses dual polarity 40 or 80 MHz channel pairings. For max performance, youshould get a dual polarity 80 MHz channel pair.We are allowing TDMA inside FDD channel pairs so operators can dynamicallyallocate spectrum based on their network traffic instead of being stuck to a50% Tx and 50% Rx split. To use this feature, you will need to do twice thecoordination since you will have both channels within your pair transmitting orreceiving simultaneously.We understand that spectrum isn’t always available. In congested areas, you canuse our TD-FD mode. It does not require dual coordination so you would
coordinate like any normal licensed link, but it will half your max potentialthroughput.Thanks,RyanFrom: Gino Villarini Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 at 10:17 AMTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11: Exactly what does the mounting look like?Jaime, can you clarify the spectrum needed for running this units to fullcapacity? For full capacity I need 320 mhz worth of spectrum? 2 80 mhz channelsin both pol ?On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Jaime Fink  wrote:Ask and ye shall receive, attached B11 image depicting the mount bolts that gothrough the radio housing to attach to the standoffs to the circular waveguidetube interface.
We have a number of specific dish mount questions we’ve been getting from users(REMEC included) about whether we can work on adapter plates to keep dishes upon towers that are similar existing waveguide type.Most of these deployed already are single pol though, so ideally we’d be able toget the antenna brands to build us an adapter, but if not we’ll see if we canpartner after market if at all possible if it’s technically feasible.Can’t promise anything yet, but I’ll update the group as soon as we havesomething more to share. We completely understand nobody likes replacing a bigdish up high on a tower, costly and time consuming.Cheers,Jaime FinkChief Product OfficerMimosaFrom: Af  on behalf of Eric Kuhnke 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 at 8:56 AMTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa B11: Exactly what does the mounting look like?Will it work with a REMEC standard 4' 11 GHz dish (cylindrical center waveguideslip fitting, four latches for tension clips on the four corners)? I may notwant to use one of the Jirous dishes.Mimosa guys watching the list, can you please post a high-res photo of what theradio head to dish physical interface looks like? <

[AFMUG] Careful out there, Wireless installer shocked..

[Roland Houin]

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/Man-shocked-taken-in-ambulance-from-St-Jo
seph-County-neighborhood-328916901.html

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 Utilization Percentage Calculation?

[Roland Houin]

I believe so.
I consider it 100% utilized & haven't had a problem with arin

roland


> When ARIN is validating IP utilization, are network and broadcast addresses
considered utilized?

For example, if I use a /30 block for a single customer:
Network: n.n.n.0
Router: n.n.n.1
Customer: n.n.n.2
Broadcast: n.n.n.3
Is that considered 100% utilization or 50% utilization?

Thanks - Chris <

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina not displaying remote side info

[Roland Houin]

I've seen it as well.
I have concluded that the radios each communicate with each other via ip.
if they are not on the same subnet you will have trouble until the network  is 
connected/routed.
I have noticed that (with the Integra W's were using) the management ports 
bridge traffic across the link.
be careful here, caused us no end of grief.
SAF seems suprised that we have an issue with out of band management ports 
bridging traffic across the link.

Roland

 Aligning a SAF link, its up, passing traffic, just neither side is displaying
the remote info, config is thesame as our other saf link that it is displaying,
with the exception that the working one both radios are on the same subnet,
this one they are on serarate /30. do the pull remote side data via ip, or am i
missing something here

--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part
of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 Radio Calibration

[Roland Houin]

I have 1 450 ap doing this..
seems to work fine ..
happened after an upgrade a while back.
cambium wanted to rma it (out of warranty).
not worth the effort when it's 500' in the air  working fine.

roland

 I have a radio stating that it is not calibrated. The exact message inRed is "Radio not calibrated". Has anyone seen this?Gilbert 

Re: [AFMUG] Battery operated impact wrench

[Roland Houin]

I've used my makita 1/2" impact to remove tower bolts in for 40 years..
works as well as a 1/2" air impact.
a single battery removed the all of the base bolts (1 1/8" socket) from a tower, 

Roland

 Thats an actual impact wrench, so its possible.I think what I have is the DCF886B, the specs say 125 ft-lbs. Both probably havetheir place. The impact driver uses smaller impacts at a higher rate.I will tell you the 20V lithium ion batteries are awesome. Basically you buywhatever tools you already have batteries for. Unless they are Ni-Cd in whichcase Id switch to Li ion.By sector bolts are you talking about ~13mm size, or are these more like 3/4 or7/8 on pipe-pipe clamps? If they are big suckers, you might want to bring acordless sawzall as well.From: Adam MoffettSent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:13 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery operated impact wrench
My air powered impact wrench is supposed to deliver 240 ft-lbs of torque at100psi. I just looked at a 20v DeWalt (DCF889M2) that said "400 ft lbs maximumtorque" in the specsbut maybe it's a matter of how creative they are at measuring torque.Are you looking for an actual impact wrench like an auto mechanic would use? Oran impact driver? We use a DeWalt 20V impact driver for driving lags atinstalls, its a very useful tool. But if you are doing the equivalent of lugnuts or rusted exhaust clamps, you would need something huskier.From: Paul McCallSent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:11 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: [AFMUG] Battery operated impact wrenchAny suggestions on something you have had good success with? We are retrofitting
a lot of towers and some of the sector bolts are pretty stuck. Yes, we can cutthem off, but we are hoping that there is amore elogent solution to QUICKLYget the bolts off. Even if with an impact wrench, they break, then it stillsolves the problem.What do you think guys?PaulPaul McCall, Pres.PDMNet / Florida Broadband658 Old Dixie HighwayVero Beach, FL 32962772-564-6800 office772-473-0352 cellwww.pdmnet.compa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] unifi hotspot portal

[Roland Houin]

I don't know what's missing. I was looking for what others have found works well
we're doing a campground  haven't yet done a pay for use hotspot.
we need a simple way to manage users  take their payments.

It looks like the unifi system requires a bit of work to integrate with paypal etc.


Roland



 What's missing in the Unifi portal that you want?Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Roland Houin rho...@fourway.net wrote:any reccomendations for a unifi network hotspot controller/payment portalsystem.?Roland 

[AFMUG] unifi hotspot portal

[Roland Houin]

any reccomendations for a unifi network hotspot controller/payment portal 
system.?


Roland

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 CCQ?

[Roland Houin]

I don't see packets dropping unless you reach the capacity limit.
in noisy environments the capacity will fluctuate quickly..
that's why we monitor so we can tell when we reach the capacity.

roland

 How do you know if your dropping packets or is that part of the PTP650 magithat they just don't?Kurt FankhauserWavelinc CommunicationsP.O. Box 126Bucyrus, OH 44820http://www.wavelinc.comtel. 419-562-6405fax. 419-617-0110On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Roland Houin rho...@fourway.net wrote:my experience is that you get the throughput that is shown in link capacity..real/tcp/udp however you measure it..I monitor throughput up/down as well as rssi to determine link status.never had to look at the other statistics, except ethernet for crc errors..Roland Put up my first PTP650 link yesterday, what should I be looking for in thestatistics under the wireless port counter to determine if I am having problems
with this link? I'm used to the Atheros radios and CCQ value but this is awhole different breed here.I attached a couple screenshots. Link capacity is listed as 417mbps. Does thatnumber mean I will actually see 417mbps of aggregate traffic on this link? Idid some testing last night and actually seen 325mbps TCP throughput in thedownlink direction.Kurt FankhauserWavelinc CommunicationsP.O. Box 126Bucyrus, OH 44820http://www.wavelinc.comtel. 419-562-6405fax. 419-617-0110  

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 CCQ?

[Roland Houin]

my experience is that you get the throughput that is shown in link capacity..
real/tcp/udp however you measure it..
I monitor throughput up/down as well as rssi to determine link status.
never had to look at the other statistics, except ethernet for crc errors..

Roland

 Put up my first PTP650 link yesterday, what should I be looking for in the
statistics under the wireless port counter to determine if I am having problems
with this link? I'm used to the Atheros radios and CCQ value but this is a
whole different breed here.

I attached a couple screenshots. Link capacity is listed as 417mbps. Does that
number mean I will actually see 417mbps of aggregate traffic on this link? I
did some testing last night and actually seen 325mbps TCP throughput in the
downlink direction.

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110 

[AFMUG] Friday for sale, J Arm Mounts, proxim 8100

[Roland Houin]

Need to move these out of the warehouse.

new unused jpoles (most from kp dishes)
proxim, used to test only.



Box of J-Pole Kits 
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/42x-New-Antenna-Mounting-J-Pole-Kits-1-5-8-X-18-Long-Mast-w-Roof-Eave-/261737324202?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cf0c29eaa)



Proxim Tsunami 8100 Series End Points 
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proxim-Tsunami-8100-Series-End-Points-2x-QB-8100-EPA-US-w-Pwr-Supply-Mounting-/261740657644?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Antennashash=item3cf0f57bec)

Re: [AFMUG] 350 E. Cermak

[Roland Houin]

fourway is there

roland

 Who of you is already there?

Who of you has a set schedule for being there?

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 / 650 Power supply - Are they compatible?

[Roland Houin via Af]

Yes., the ptp600 power supply is an option for the 650 (dual input)

roland

 Can I use a PTP600 PS with a PTP 650 unit and vice versa?

Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr 

Re: [AFMUG] How common are crc errors on pmp100

[Roland Houin via Af]

I'd clear the counters and watch..
if the errors climb quickly, you have a problem..
it could have been a single event weeks ago that caused the problem.
it would be nice if we had a mib to monitor the crc errors so we can tell when 
they happen.

roland


 This is a radio that has been up for 93 days, it is very heavy on traffic,
would you say there is an issue with this radio? It is on a clean tower that
only I am on. There are 4 other canopy radios on this tower receiving sync from
a CTM1. All radios are just CAT5e cable non shielded, length is about 180�
tops. Also there is a PTP800 with lmr 400 ran along with it, I never noticed
this before, all other radios are showing about the same number of CRC errors,
is this expectable?

Ethernet Link Detected :1
Ethernet Link Lost :0
Undersized Toss Count :0
inoctets Count :4054728244
inucastpkts Count :1954469296
Innucastpkts Count :56834740
indiscards Count :0
inerrors Count :231695
inunknownprotos Count :0
outoctets Count :3150773755
outucastpktsCount :1289988260
outnucastpkts Count :1597027
outdiscards Count :0
outerrors Count :0
RxBabErr :0
TxHbErr :0
EthBusErr :0
CRCError :231601
RcvFifoNoBuf :94
RxOverrun :0
LateCollision :0
RetransLimitExp :0
TxUnderrun :0
CarSenseLost :0
No Carrier :0

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

Re: [AFMUG] Non-advantage AP

[Roland Houin via Af]

p9 or laterap's or sm's can be upgraded to advantage with a key..

roland

 the SMs can be upgraded with a key but i'm pretty certain that the AP has tocome with the hardware i.e., it's not software upgradable.that's why they had the whole trade up program and then you turned your old nonadvantage APs into SMs.2 centsOn Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:Yes.Be sure it's P9 or better.bppart-15@SkylineBroadbandServiceOn 11/7/2014 8:20 AM, Dan Petermann via Af wrote:Can a non-advantage AP be converted to an advantage AP via license key?Hardware version is P9 

Re: [AFMUG] DFS issues

[Roland Houin via Af]

get p9 ap's
they don't use dfs.
the only thing I can use in my area.

roland



 We are starting to see a lot more DFS detections on 5.2 AP's. We never used to
have this problem. Recent upgrades to firmware seem to be making this a more
sensitive detection. I have one tower tonight with 6 new FSK sectors that are
on abcabc layout. The sectors in this layout have radar detection on this tower
at various times in the last 20 minutes on both sector c radios and on the
second sector B. I am also seeing this happen on towers where we have recently
replaced connectorized AP's due to lightining damage where it was not a problem
before. we are running 13.1.3 on all of these radios. What aremy options here.
I cant just stop using 5.2 for APs???

Craig 

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650

[Roland Houin via Af]

yes.

roland


 Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)