Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Jaime Solorza]

Lots of good places to eat in Galveston..have fun...

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 9, 2018 10:17 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> Heading down to Galveston, then a Cruise home…
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:00 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news
>
> That's like  LA distance for me Luther's Barbeque is good and most
> Vietnamese restaurants as well in most of Houston area
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jan 9, 2018 9:13 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:
>
>> Hola desde Houston..
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:33 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Gino in the news
>>
>> We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press
>> releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Gino A. Villarini]

Heading down to Galveston, then a Cruise home…

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jaime 
Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

That's like  LA distance for me Luther's Barbeque is good and most 
Vietnamese restaurants as well in most of Houston area

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 9, 2018 9:13 AM, "Gino A. Villarini" 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
Hola desde Houston..

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jaime 
Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:33 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press 
releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Jaime Solorza]

That's like  LA distance for me Luther's Barbeque is good and most
Vietnamese restaurants as well in most of Houston area

Jaime Solorza

On Jan 9, 2018 9:13 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> Hola desde Houston..
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:33 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Gino in the news
>
> We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press
> releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Gino A. Villarini]

Hola desde Houston..

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jaime 
Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:33 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press 
releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah, I am very anxious to hear his unvarnished opinion of the radios and the 
band after he has had them up for 6 months.
Gino is one guy I trust to give us the straight story.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:33 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press 
releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Larry Smith]

On Tue January 9 2018 09:33, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press
> releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.
>
> Jaime Solorza

+10 Gino

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

[AFMUG] Gino in the news

[Jaime Solorza]

We have a celebrity amongst us Gino's company featured in Siklu press
releaseway to Gino!!! Saludos.

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Gino gets some help from ubnt

[Jaime Solorza]

Nice write up.

On Oct 19, 2017 8:45 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> Shared on social media ; thanks for the link!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Zach Underwood 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:53 AM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gino gets some help from ubnt
>
> *https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/airFiber24-Radios-Restore-Internet-Service-to-Puerto-Rico-After/cns-p/2104859
> <https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/airFiber24-Radios-Restore-Internet-Service-to-Puerto-Rico-After/cns-p/2104859>*
>
> --
> Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
> My website <http://zachunderwood.me>
> advance-networking.com
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino gets some help from ubnt

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Shared on social media ; thanks for the link!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Zach Underwood 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:53 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Gino gets some help from ubnt


  
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/airFiber24-Radios-Restore-Internet-Service-to-Puerto-Rico-After/cns-p/2104859



  -- 

  Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
  My website

  advance-networking.com

[AFMUG] Gino gets some help from ubnt

[Zach Underwood]

*https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/airFiber24-Radios-Restore-Internet-Service-to-Puerto-Rico-After/cns-p/2104859
*

-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

Wish I had time to be there installing for Gino...

On Sep 30, 2017 10:54 AM,  wrote:

> I hope someone, (perhaps a master's or phd project) analyzes what broke
> and what survived and discovers correlations.
>
> Maybe a certain type of antenna survives and others never survive, stuff
> like that.
>
> Wish I had about a year to devote to a project like this.
>
> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 10:20 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> The Face book wisp pictures group showed a picture of a monopole with
> the antenna array ripped off the top.   Yes the whole extension section
> of the monopole on the ground whole.   Think the stress to rip those
> bolts out.  And no sign of rust in the pictures...
>
> On 09/30/2017 09:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
>> Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." Ten
>> Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge planes
>> leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems get flooded
>> or towers felled?
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The power of AnimalFarm:
>> *From:* David Newman
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>> We're on this.
>> Sincerely,
>> David R. Newman
>> VP Operations
>> Streakwave Wireless Inc.
>> 11777 Enterprise Drive
>> Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
>> Toll Free 888-604-5234 
>> Direct 408-213-7344 
>> Fax 513-772-0314 
>> Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>> Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened,
>> Homeland security request
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino A. Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

I hope someone, (perhaps a master's or phd project) analyzes what broke and 
what survived and discovers correlations.


Maybe a certain type of antenna survives and others never survive, stuff 
like that.


Wish I had about a year to devote to a project like this.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 10:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

The Face book wisp pictures group showed a picture of a monopole with
the antenna array ripped off the top.   Yes the whole extension section
of the monopole on the ground whole.   Think the stress to rip those
bolts out.  And no sign of rust in the pictures...

On 09/30/2017 09:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." Ten 
Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge planes 
leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems get flooded 
or towers felled?


On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

The power of AnimalFarm:
*From:* David Newman
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
We're on this.
Sincerely,
David R. Newman
VP Operations
Streakwave Wireless Inc.
11777 Enterprise Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
Toll Free 888-604-5234 
Direct 408-213-7344 
Fax 513-772-0314 
Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened,
Homeland security request

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Robert Andrews]

& lives... & still has a voice...   But a very gravelly voice now...

On 09/30/2017 09:09 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

When a man that eats molten steel tells you to do something then you do it.

Jaime Solorza wrote:
Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." 
Ten Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge 
planes leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems 
get flooded or towers felled?


On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:


The power of AnimalFarm:
*From:* David Newman
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
We're on this.
Sincerely,
David R. Newman
VP Operations
Streakwave Wireless Inc.
11777 Enterprise Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
Toll Free 888-604-5234 
Direct 408-213-7344 
Fax 513-772-0314 
Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened,
Homeland security request

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


 
Virus-free. www.avg.com 
 



<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Robert Andrews]

The Face book wisp pictures group showed a picture of a monopole with 
the antenna array ripped off the top.   Yes the whole extension section 
of the monopole on the ground whole.   Think the stress to rip those 
bolts out.  And no sign of rust in the pictures...


On 09/30/2017 09:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." Ten 
Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge planes 
leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems get 
flooded or towers felled?


On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

The power of AnimalFarm:
*From:* David Newman
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
We're on this.
Sincerely,
David R. Newman
VP Operations
Streakwave Wireless Inc.
11777 Enterprise Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
Toll Free 888-604-5234 
Direct 408-213-7344 
Fax 513-772-0314 
Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened,
Homeland security request

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jay Weekley]

When a man that eats molten steel tells you to do something then you do it.

Jaime Solorza wrote:
Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." 
Ten Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge 
planes leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems 
get flooded or towers felled?


On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

The power of AnimalFarm:
*From:* David Newman
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
We're on this.
Sincerely,
David R. Newman
VP Operations
Streakwave Wireless Inc.
11777 Enterprise Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
Toll Free 888-604-5234 
Direct 408-213-7344 
Fax 513-772-0314 
Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened,
Homeland security request

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


 
	Virus-free. www.avg.com 
 



<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mathew Howard]

Good work!

At one point I heard something like 80% of the cellular system was down in
PR, so yeah, I'd say it's probably pretty safe to assume some towers got
taken down or at least pretty heavily damaged.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." Ten
> Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge planes
> leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems get flooded
> or towers felled?
>
> On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM,  wrote:
>
>> The power of AnimalFarm:
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Newman
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>>
>> We're on this.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> David R. Newman
>> VP Operations
>>
>> Streakwave Wireless Inc.
>> 11777 Enterprise Drive
>> Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
>> Toll Free 888-604-5234
>> Direct 408-213-7344
>> Fax 513-772-0314
>>
>> Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>>
>> Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened, Homeland
>> security request
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes.  Indeed..."your words are like iron that no paper can hold..." Ten
Bears.  Fort Bliss is sending more help...saw some of those huge planes
leave early this morning...on side note.  Did cellular systems get flooded
or towers felled?

On Sep 30, 2017 9:52 AM,  wrote:

> The power of AnimalFarm:
>
>
> *From:* David Newman
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
> *To:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>
> We're on this.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David R. Newman
> VP Operations
>
> Streakwave Wireless Inc.
> 11777 Enterprise Drive
> Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
> Toll Free 888-604-5234
> Direct 408-213-7344
> Fax 513-772-0314
>
> Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #
>
> Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened, Homeland
> security request
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

[AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

The power of AnimalFarm:


From: David Newman 
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:46 AM
To: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #

We're on this.

Sincerely, 

David R. Newman
VP Operations

Streakwave Wireless Inc.
11777 Enterprise Drive
Cincinnati, Ohio 45241
Toll Free 888-604-5234
Direct 408-213-7344
Fax 513-772-0314

Sent from my phone, please pardon brevity and typos.
From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] NEED STREAKWAVE OWNER PHONE #

Need to contact CARL or high brass to get the warehouse opened, Homeland 
security request


  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.elpasoproud.com/news/fort-bliss-soldiers-deploy-to-puerto-rico-to-help-with-hurricane-relief-efforts/819790978

On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>> ships are queued.
>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>> docks or something.
>>
>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>>> Gino yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>
>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>
>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
>>> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
>>> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
>>> able to find its way onto military transport
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you
>>> could get it there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>&

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

Have a cousin whose husband's parents live in Puerto Rico and they have not
had contact with them?  Does Gino have email or phone service yet?

On Sep 26, 2017 10:40 PM, "Brian Webster"  wrote:

Just got an update on this request, they have enough volunteers for this
now.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

http://www.arrl.org/news/american-red-cross-asks-arrl-
s-assistance-with-puerto-rico-relief-effort

Red Cross Asks For 50 Ham Radio Operators To Fly To Puerto Rico

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Colin Stanners 
wrote:
> (I'm trimming the excess replies as those are getting out of control)
>
> MarineTraffic shows very few ships around the island. Either that is
> because most of the AIS radio receiving stations on Puerto Rico are
> damaged / offline (still possible), or because no ships are going
> there until the ports are fixed/cleared.
>
> https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-66.5/centery:18.2/z
> oom:9
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Steve Jones
> 
> wrote:
>>
>> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there
>> are boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even
>> just lack of docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled
>> ships in the few areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking
>> at this through landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options.
>> The military is leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians.
>> 3 million people is a lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone.
>> then distribution if you do get it to land. what do you send, and in
>> what order when the fuel is running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so
they fill the lots cause they don't have fuel?
>> food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are damaged or
>> impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a whole
>> article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
>> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite
>> cutting because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>>
>> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
>> coverage on top of it
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies
>>> them...damn we are the most powerful country and we are dropping the
ball.
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[Steve Jones]

I talked to an airforce contact today. His recommendation was to go to the
PR air national guard with very detailed cargo information and the
reasoning it is or could be considered infrastructure/critical
infrastructure and they will get it into the transport queue. It would
probably need stateside to get to a transport facility. Once its in PR land
transport may be a whole other ballgame

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

> If folks have not looked at a map recently, this is not a three hour
> cruise.  PR is a long way off.  Not close like Cuba.  It is way down there.
> So you need a truly ocean going vessel that is set up for spending days on
> the high seas.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 8:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update
>
> are chartered boats out of florida  an option? 15 pallets at t about 2.5
> tons might be doable on a few charters (a fishing trawler might be able to
> do it in one)
>
> not going to be cheap, but I'm guessing at this point non critical
> infrastructure shipping isn't going to be cheap
>
> btw, the less than reputable shippers are always accessible and can get
> anywhere
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
>> Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I
>> could help and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I
>> would gladly help coordinate for him.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the situation as of this point:
>>
>>
>>
>> He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside
>> now. I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy
>> right now. One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds.
>>
>> Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA
>> status. If anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for
>> this stuff ping me. The pallets are in CA right now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet.
>> Since commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:
>>
>>
>>
>> FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of
>> critical radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the
>> storm. The agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and
>> by sea to restore essential radar, navigation and communication services,
>> and a long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.
>>
>>
>>
>> “Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today
>> [Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in
>> Puerto Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to
>> the site through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are
>> using chain saws to clear a path for themselves and the replacement
>> equipment.”
>>
>>
>>
>> FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing
>> the extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the
>> equipment is located.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I
>> are trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control
>> from a ship offshore?
>>
>> On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

If leaving Miami VFR, things could change by the time you got there.  I guess 
you could always go alternate to somewhere that may have IFR capabilities, but 
I imagine surrounding islands have their own problems.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

Cooperstown, NY 13326

(607) 643-4055 Office

(607) 435-3988 Mobile

(208) 692-1898 Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more 
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in El 
Paso that is collecting money for relief. 

 

On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not sure 
if I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

   

  From: Gino A. Villarini 

  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

   

  Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

   

  From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

   

  Yep, exactly what I said.

   

 

Gino A. Villarini
   
President
   
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
   



  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  
wrote:

It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

 

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve 
our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

 

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 

One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.

Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left 
who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

 

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

 

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing 
to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

 

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

 

Regards.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 




  From: "Lewis Bergman" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

  It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

   

  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  
wrote:

Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events 
are humbli

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[chuck]

On of my best technicians ever and tower climbers retired and moved to PR in 
between storms.  
Talk about timing...

He knows Gino.  

If you can let Gino know that Jeff Hodges is living there and will be 
attempting to contact Gino he could not find a guy better suited to provide the 
exact assistance he needs.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 8:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I could help 
and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I would gladly help 
coordinate for him.

 

Here is the situation as of this point:

 

He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside now. 
I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy right now. 
One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds. 

Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA status. If 
anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for this stuff ping 
me. The pallets are in CA right now.

 

Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet. Since 
commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the issue.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:

 

FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of critical 
radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the storm. The 
agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and by sea to 
restore essential radar, navigation and communication services, and a 
long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.

 

“Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today 
[Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in Puerto 
Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to the site 
through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are using chain saws 
to clear a path for themselves and the replacement equipment.”

 

FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing the 
extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the equipment is 
located.

 

I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I are 
trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control from 
a ship offshore?

On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

  I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted 
the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey 
and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, 
the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

  This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military bridging 
vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks or 
something.

   

  I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. 
Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

   

  On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  
wrote:

  Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

   

  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

  Cooperstown, NY 13326

  (607) 643-4055 Office

  (607) 435-3988 Mobile

  (208) 692-1898 Fax
  Skype: Radiowebst

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
  To: Animal Farm
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

   

  How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more 
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in El 
Paso that is collecting money for relief. 

   

  On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

   

  From: Steve Jones 

  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM

  To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[chuck]

If folks have not looked at a map recently, this is not a three hour cruise.  
PR is a long way off.  Not close like Cuba.  It is way down there.
So you need a truly ocean going vessel that is set up for spending days on the 
high seas.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 8:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

are chartered boats out of florida  an option? 15 pallets at t about 2.5 tons 
might be doable on a few charters (a fishing trawler might be able to do it in 
one)

not going to be cheap, but I'm guessing at this point non critical 
infrastructure shipping isn't going to be cheap

btw, the less than reputable shippers are always accessible and can get anywhere

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

  Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I could 
help and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I would gladly 
help coordinate for him.



  Here is the situation as of this point:



  He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside 
now. I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy right 
now. One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds. 

  Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA status. 
If anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for this stuff 
ping me. The pallets are in CA right now.



  Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet. 
Since commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the 
issue.







  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Webster
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino



  Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:



  FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of critical 
radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the storm. The 
agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and by sea to 
restore essential radar, navigation and communication services, and a 
long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.



  “Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today 
[Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in Puerto 
Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to the site 
through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are using chain saws 
to clear a path for themselves and the replacement equipment.”



  FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing the 
extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the equipment is 
located.



  I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I are 
trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!



  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino



  You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control 
from a ship offshore?

  On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted 
the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey 
and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, 
the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military 
bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks 
or something.



I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. 
Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business



On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  
wrote:

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems 
were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are 
not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very 
big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big 
issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.



Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

Cooperstown, NY 13326

(607) 643-4055 Office

(607) 435-3988 Mobile

(208) 692-1898 Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino



 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Brian Webster]

Just got an update on this request, they have enough volunteers for this now.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

http://www.arrl.org/news/american-red-cross-asks-arrl-s-assistance-with-puerto-rico-relief-effort

Red Cross Asks For 50 Ham Radio Operators To Fly To Puerto Rico

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
> (I'm trimming the excess replies as those are getting out of control)
>
> MarineTraffic shows very few ships around the island. Either that is 
> because most of the AIS radio receiving stations on Puerto Rico are 
> damaged / offline (still possible), or because no ships are going 
> there until the ports are fixed/cleared.
>
> https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-66.5/centery:18.2/z
> oom:9
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Steve Jones 
> 
> wrote:
>>
>> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there 
>> are boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even 
>> just lack of docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled 
>> ships in the few areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking 
>> at this through landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. 
>> The military is leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 
>> 3 million people is a lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. 
>> then distribution if you do get it to land. what do you send, and in 
>> what order when the fuel is running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they 
>> fill the lots cause they don't have fuel?
>> food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are damaged or 
>> impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a whole 
>> article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my 
>> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite 
>> cutting because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>>
>> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media 
>> coverage on top of it
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to 
>>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics 
>>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies 
>>> them...damn we are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Josh Reynolds]

http://www.arrl.org/news/american-red-cross-asks-arrl-s-assistance-with-puerto-rico-relief-effort

Red Cross Asks For 50 Ham Radio Operators To Fly To Puerto Rico

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
> (I'm trimming the excess replies as those are getting out of control)
>
> MarineTraffic shows very few ships around the island. Either that is because
> most of the AIS radio receiving stations on Puerto Rico are damaged /
> offline (still possible), or because no ships are going there until the
> ports are fixed/cleared.
>
> https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-66.5/centery:18.2/zoom:9
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>>
>> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
>> boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
>> docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few areas
>> accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through landlocked
>> eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is leading
>> operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a lot of
>> supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do get it
>> to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is running out? a
>> bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they don't have fuel?
>> food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are damaged or
>> impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a whole article
>> about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my neighborhood, there are
>> ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting because theres 5-10 chainsaws
>> per city block in garages.
>>
>> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
>> coverage on top of it
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
>>> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Colin Stanners]

(I'm trimming the excess replies as those are getting out of control)

MarineTraffic shows very few ships around the island. Either that is
because most of the AIS radio receiving stations on Puerto Rico are damaged
/ offline (still possible), or because no ships are going there until the
ports are fixed/cleared.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-66.5/centery:18.2/zoom:9

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
> boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
> docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
> areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
> landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
> leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
> lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
> get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
> running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
> don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
> damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
> whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
> because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>
> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
> coverage on top of it
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
>> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[Brian Webster]

Checking on multiple options at this point. Trying to work government resources 
since Gino can help establish mission critical links for them. Will know more 
in the next day or two.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

 

are chartered boats out of florida  an option? 15 pallets at t about 2.5 tons 
might be doable on a few charters (a fishing trawler might be able to do it in 
one)

 

not going to be cheap, but I'm guessing at this point non critical 
infrastructure shipping isn't going to be cheap

 

btw, the less than reputable shippers are always accessible and can get anywhere

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I could help 
and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I would gladly help 
coordinate for him.

 

Here is the situation as of this point:

 

He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside now. 
I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy right now. 
One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds. 

Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA status. If 
anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for this stuff ping 
me. The pallets are in CA right now.

 

Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet. Since 
commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the issue.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:

 

FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of critical 
radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the storm. The 
agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and by sea to 
restore essential radar, navigation and communication services, and a 
long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.

 

“Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today 
[Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in Puerto 
Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to the site 
through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are using chain saws 
to clear a path for themselves and the replacement equipment.”

 

FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing the 
extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the equipment is 
located.

 

I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I are 
trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control from 
a ship offshore?

On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted the 
act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey and 
Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, the 
ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military bridging 
vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks or 
something.

 

I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. Its 
almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd. 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

Cooperstown, NY 13326 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

(607) 643-4055   Office

(607) 435-3988   Mobile

(208) 692-1898   Fax
Skype: Radi

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Brian Webster]

Those are called LCAC’s, can carry 60 tons. Retired Navy Chief, love those 
things. They could bring them ashore at places like Roosevelt Roads but the 
rest of the island logistics as has been mentioned is also the issue. I am sure 
the Navy is full on deployed right now to help deal with this. It all takes 
time to stage and then transport. Moving tonnage is a massive undertaking which 
is why after the gulf wars it was just cheaper to leave so much equipment there 
and not bring it back.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

When I was in the USMC we had gigantic air cushion type transports that could 
carry two M1 Abrams. I never saw them come up on anything other than a Sandy 
Beach so I don't know if they can or not. Also don't know what kind of beaches 
PR has. Who knows where they are.

I would think deployment of military on a territory is a lot easier than 
stateside legally.

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 9:22 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

I understand Steve...it is a nightmare...wonder if those airboats that they use 
in swamps and such could help?  

 

On Sep 26, 2017 8:09 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are boats 
sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of docks, 
there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few areas 
accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through landlocked eyes 
where theres always tons of options. The military is leading operations, but 
theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a lot of supplies, just in 
drinking water alone. then distribution if you do get it to land. what do you 
send, and in what order when the fuel is running out? a bunch of delivery 
trucks? so they fill the lots cause they don't have fuel? food? with nothing to 
transport it cause the roads are damaged or impassable? They don't even have 
the chainsaws, there was a whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A 
tree falls in my neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite 
cutting because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.

 

this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media coverage on 
top of it

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to deploy 
immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics expertise...cruise 
liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we are the most powerful 
country and we are dropping the ball.

 

On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the COWs 
military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile Ranges..they 
have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they look like Glen 
Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could send some of these 
for rescue and recovery ? 

 

On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted the 
act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey and 
Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, the 
ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military bridging 
vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks or 
something.

 

I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. Its 
almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd. 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

Cooperstown, NY 13326 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

(607) 643-4055   Office

(607) 435-3988   Mobile

(208) 692-1898   Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

ceived this morning. FedEX, UPS,
>>>>>>> and USPS are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are 
>>>>>>> VFR
>>>>>>> only with very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami.
>>>>>>> Logistics is a big issue right now. I have not had any direct or 
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>> requests from Gino yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>>>>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime
>>>>>>> Solorza
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?
>>>>>>>  And more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican
>>>>>>> Club here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have
>>>>>>> contacts for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities 
>>>>>>> (hospitals,
>>>>>>> long term care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff
>>>>>>> like that may be able to find its way onto military transport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you
>>>>>>> could get it there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.
>>>>>>> Not sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).
>>>>>>> Need Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

Much better off moving desalination units than water.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 9:34 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> When I was in the USMC we had gigantic air cushion type transports that
> could carry two M1 Abrams. I never saw them come up on anything other than
> a Sandy Beach so I don't know if they can or not. Also don't know what kind
> of beaches PR has. Who knows where they are.
>
> I would think deployment of military on a territory is a lot easier than
> stateside legally.
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 9:22 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I understand Steve...it is a nightmare...wonder if those airboats that
>> they use in swamps and such could help?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 8:09 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>>
>> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
>> boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
>> docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
>> areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
>> landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
>> leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
>> lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
>> get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
>> running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
>> don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
>> damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
>> whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
>> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
>> because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>>
>> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
>> coverage on top of it
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
>>> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>>>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>>>> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>>>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>>>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>>>> ships are queued.
>>>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>>>> docks or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys 
>>>>> business
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster <
>>>>> i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA
>>>>>> systems were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS,
>>>>>> and USPS are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are 
>>>>>> VFR
>>>>>> only with very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami.
>>>>>> Logistics is a big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific
>>>>>> requests from Gino yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bria

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

When I was in the USMC we had gigantic air cushion type transports that
could carry two M1 Abrams. I never saw them come up on anything other than
a Sandy Beach so I don't know if they can or not. Also don't know what kind
of beaches PR has. Who knows where they are.

I would think deployment of military on a territory is a lot easier than
stateside legally.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 9:22 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I understand Steve...it is a nightmare...wonder if those airboats that
> they use in swamps and such could help?
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 8:09 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
> boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
> docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
> areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
> landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
> leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
> lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
> get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
> running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
> don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
> damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
> whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
> because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>
> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
> coverage on top of it
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
>> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>>> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>>> ships are queued.
>>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>>> docks or something.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys 
>>>> business
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster <
>>>> i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA
>>>>> systems were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS,
>>>>> and USPS are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR
>>>>> only with very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami.
>>>>> Logistics is a big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific
>>>>> requests from Gino yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>
>>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

its crazy one article has talked about 4 million meals that shipped and I
don't even recall the water volume. I was trying to put that in
perspective, assuming MREs are probably the most compact meal, just what
that volume is, I couldn't fathom it. I only eat once a day by choice,
maybe twice if I'm drinking, that was considered a substantial delivery,
and that only gives 2 or three meals for the number of people in demand.
I'm not a person whos capable of that emotional feels stuff, but this
situation makes my eyesockets catch fire

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I understand Steve...it is a nightmare...wonder if those airboats that
> they use in swamps and such could help?
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 8:09 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
> there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
> boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
> docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
> areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
> landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
> leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
> lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
> get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
> running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
> don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
> damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
> whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
> neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
> because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.
>
> this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media
> coverage on top of it
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to
>> deploy immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
>> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
>> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>>> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>>> ships are queued.
>>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>>> docks or something.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys 
>>>> business
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster <
>>>> i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA
>>>>> systems were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS,
>>>>> and USPS are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR
>>>>> only with very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami.
>>>>> Logistics is a big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific
>>>>> requests from Gino yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>
>>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>>> <h

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[Steve Jones]

are chartered boats out of florida  an option? 15 pallets at t about 2.5
tons might be doable on a few charters (a fishing trawler might be able to
do it in one)

not going to be cheap, but I'm guessing at this point non critical
infrastructure shipping isn't going to be cheap

btw, the less than reputable shippers are always accessible and can get
anywhere

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I could
> help and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I would
> gladly help coordinate for him.
>
>
>
> Here is the situation as of this point:
>
>
>
> He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside
> now. I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy
> right now. One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds.
>
> Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA
> status. If anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for
> this stuff ping me. The pallets are in CA right now.
>
>
>
> Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet.
> Since commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the
> issue.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:
>
>
>
> FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of
> critical radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the
> storm. The agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and
> by sea to restore essential radar, navigation and communication services,
> and a long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.
>
>
>
> “Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today
> [Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in
> Puerto Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to
> the site through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are
> using chain saws to clear a path for themselves and the replacement
> equipment.”
>
>
>
> FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing
> the extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the
> equipment is located.
>
>
>
> I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I
> are trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control
> from a ship offshore?
>
> On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted
> the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for
> Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
> ships are queued.
>
> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
> docks or something.
>
>
>
> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
> Gino yet.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hil

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

I understand Steve...it is a nightmare...wonder if those airboats that they
use in swamps and such could help?

On Sep 26, 2017 8:09 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.

this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media coverage
on top of it

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to deploy
> immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>>
>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>> ships are queued.
>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>> docks or something.
>>>
>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>>>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>>>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>>>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>>>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>>>> Gino yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>
>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>>
>>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>>
>>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>>
>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>
>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>>>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>>>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
&

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

there is nowhere to park the boats Jaime. That's the problem. there are
boats sitting in the ocean with nowhere to park. its not even just lack of
docks, there is debris in the water, sunk or disabled ships in the few
areas accessible are a real risk. We are all looking at this through
landlocked eyes where theres always tons of options. The military is
leading operations, but theyre not physics magicians. 3 million people is a
lot of supplies, just in drinking water alone. then distribution if you do
get it to land. what do you send, and in what order when the fuel is
running out? a bunch of delivery trucks? so they fill the lots cause they
don't have fuel? food? with nothing to transport it cause the roads are
damaged or impassable? They don't even have the chainsaws, there was a
whole article about that, not enough chainsaws. A tree falls in my
neighborhood, there are ten chainsaws within 10 minutes onsite cutting
because theres 5-10 chainsaws per city block in garages.

this is a new logistics nightmare with 24/7 nonstop negative media coverage
on top of it

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to deploy
> immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
> expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
> are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
>> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
>> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>>
>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>> ships are queued.
>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>> docks or something.
>>>
>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>>>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>>>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>>>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>>>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>>>> Gino yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>
>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>>
>>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>>
>>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>>
>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>
>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>>>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>>>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am sure he

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jason Wilson]

section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
>> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
>> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>>
>>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>>> ships are queued.
>>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>>> docks or something.
>>>
>>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>>>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>>>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>>>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>>>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>>>> Gino yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>
>>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>>
>>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>>
>>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>>
>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>
>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>>>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>>>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
>>>> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
>>>> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may
>>>> be able to find its way onto military transport
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you
>>>> could get it there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>>>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

[Brian Webster]

Talking with Gino tonight and he is a bit overwhelmed. He asked if I could help 
and field the offers of manpower assistance, so I told him I would gladly help 
coordinate for him.

 

Here is the situation as of this point:

 

He has equipment he needs to restore his network, it’s stranded stateside now. 
I am working multiple angles to get shipment to the island, not easy right now. 
One shipment is 15 pallets weighing in at 5.3 K pounds. 

Transport to the island is the issue; see my earlier post about FAA status. If 
anyone knows of transport going to the island and has room for this stuff ping 
me. The pallets are in CA right now.

 

Until he gets equipment to the island he can’t really use much help yet. Since 
commercial flights have not resumed transportation there is also the issue.

 

 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:

 

FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of critical 
radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the storm. The 
agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and by sea to 
restore essential radar, navigation and communication services, and a 
long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.

 

“Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today 
[Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in Puerto 
Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to the site 
through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are using chain saws 
to clear a path for themselves and the replacement equipment.”

 

FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing the 
extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the equipment is 
located.

 

I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I are 
trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control from 
a ship offshore?

On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted the 
act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey and 
Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, the 
ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military bridging 
vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks or 
something.

 

I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. Its 
almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd. 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

Cooperstown, NY 13326 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

(607) 643-4055   Office

(607) 435-3988   Mobile

(208) 692-1898   Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more 
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in El 
Paso that is collecting money for relief. 

 

On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

Just saw and heard the mayor of San Juan... We need our military to deploy
immediately to assist...they are trained and have logistics
expertise...cruise liners could take a shitload of supplies them...damn we
are the most powerful country and we are dropping the ball.

On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the
> COWs military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
> Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
> look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
> send some of these for rescue and recovery ?
>
> On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
>> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't
>> lifted the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it
>> for Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
>> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
>> ships are queued.
>> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
>> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
>> docks or something.
>>
>> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
>> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
>> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>>> Gino yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>>
>>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>>
>>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
>>> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
>>> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
>>> able to find its way onto military transport
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you
>>> could get it there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys, we are ok, lots of

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

I'm getting tired of media reports from some individual talking about how
they haven't had anyone come to offer them help. this is probably the
biggest natural disaster I can recall in my lifetime for the US. we aren't
anywhere near house to house. Even texas, if it we just the state and feds
would still be on S&R but another set of states had a Cajun navy within
driving distance. nothing in PR is within driving distance.
the mainland had cash reserves and infrastructure staged. what was it like
10k utility trucks staged for florida?

how do you stage on an island that's about to get decimated.

This is going to be a huge learning experience (imagine Hawaii had japan
been more effective) as a nation. there is limited overall industry
footprint for the WISP community, but rethinking is going to be key moving
forward.

I'm very happy to hear that word from Gino is still an ability to give
thought to his network, and not like a lot of individuals there whom at
this point are giving thought to surviving with no resource and no local
governmental infrastructure to reach out to, because it wasn't there before
the disaster.

they should send some tunneling machines, like they use for those massive
underwater roads and subways to build out an infrastructure backbone that's
hardened to disaster.

if they successfully mitigate their debt with the bankruptcy, make good use
of FEMA funds, and get some good representation on this big infrastructure
spend the administration is pushing. PR can walk away from this the
wealthiest non state ever

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:
>
>
>
> FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of
> critical radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the
> storm. The agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and
> by sea to restore essential radar, navigation and communication services,
> and a long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.
>
>
>
> “Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today
> [Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in
> Puerto Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to
> the site through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are
> using chain saws to clear a path for themselves and the replacement
> equipment.”
>
>
>
> FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing
> the extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the
> equipment is located.
>
>
>
> I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I
> are trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control
> from a ship offshore?
>
> On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted
> the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for
> Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
> ships are queued.
>
> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
> docks or something.
>
>
>
> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
> Gino yet.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Adair Winter]

What if anything can we do to help?

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:
>
>
>
> FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of
> critical radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the
> storm. The agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and
> by sea to restore essential radar, navigation and communication services,
> and a long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.
>
>
>
> “Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today
> [Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in
> Puerto Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to
> the site through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are
> using chain saws to clear a path for themselves and the replacement
> equipment.”
>
>
>
> FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing
> the extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the
> equipment is located.
>
>
>
> I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I
> are trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control
> from a ship offshore?
>
> On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted
> the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for
> Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
> ships are queued.
>
> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
> docks or something.
>
>
>
> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
> Gino yet.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> (607) 643-4055 Office
>
> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>
> (208) 692-1898 Fax
> Skype: Radiowebst
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
> able to find its way onto military transport
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can buil

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Brian Webster]

Here is the latest on the FAA situation at San Juan:

 

FAA said preliminary damage assessments have identified a number of critical 
radars and navigational aids were destroyed or disabled during the storm. The 
agency is bringing replacement systems to the islands by air and by sea to 
restore essential radar, navigation and communication services, and a 
long-range radar in Turks and Caicos was made operational Sept. 25.

 

“Technicians are making their way to a second long-range radar site today 
[Sept. 25] at Pico del Este, which is located inside a National Park in Puerto 
Rico, on the top of a mountain.,” FAA said. “The last two miles to the site 
through the rain forest are impassable, so the technicians are using chain saws 
to clear a path for themselves and the replacement equipment.”

 

FAA is unable to give an estimate for full restoration of service, citing the 
extent of the damage and the challenges of the terrain where the equipment is 
located.

 

I am in communication with Gino, he has gear stuck stateside so he and I are 
trying to figure out some logistics. It’s a lot of radios!

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

You're tryna tell me the Navy or CG can't do makeshift airtraffic control from 
a ship offshore?

On 9/26/2017 8:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted the 
act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for Harvey and 
Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the problem is, the 
ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and ships are queued.

This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military bridging 
vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary docks or 
something.

 

I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs. Its 
almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move high 
volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd. 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

Cooperstown, NY 13326 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+%28607&entry=gmail&source=g>
 

(607) 643-4055   Office

(607) 435-3988   Mobile

(208) 692-1898   Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more 
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in El 
Paso that is collecting money for relief. 

 

On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not sure if 
I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

 

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Yep, exactly what I said.

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restorin

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the COWs
military uses during war games at McGregor and White Sands Missile
Ranges..they have a section of Fort Bliss where they store these...they
look like Glen Martin telescoping towers on trailers...wonder if we could
send some of these for rescue and recovery ?

On Sep 26, 2017 7:17 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted
> the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for
> Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
> problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
> ships are queued.
> This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
> bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
> docks or something.
>
> I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged
> tarmacs. Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they
> can move high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
>> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
>> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
>> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
>> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
>> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
>> Gino yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> (607) 643-4055 Office
>>
>> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>>
>> (208) 692-1898 Fax
>> Skype: Radiowebst
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
>> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
>> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
>> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
>> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
>> able to find its way onto military transport
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
>> get it there.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Date: *Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, exactly what I said.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>
>> President
>>
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restor

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

I just read an article about people being pissed cause they haven't lifted
the act that bans coastal shipping to non us ships. they lifted it for
Harvey and Irma, but not this one. everybody is making a big stink, the
problem is, the ports are damaged, theres limited offload capacity and
ships are queued.
This is crazy, youd think they could bring in some of those military
bridging vehicle to make a bridge out to some barges made into temporary
docks or something.

I don't think people realize you cant land cargo planes on damaged tarmacs.
Its almost worth reaching out to the cartels at this point, they can move
high volumes of cargo into inaccessible areas like nobodys business

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
> Gino yet.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> (607) 643-4055 Office
>
> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>
> (208) 692-1898 Fax
> Skype: Radiowebst
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
> able to find its way onto military transport
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> Yep, exactly what I said.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
> internet service.
>
>
>
> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>
>
>
> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>
> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
> Infrastructure.
>
> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>
>
>
> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>
>
>
> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing
> to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be
> around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and p

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

Thanks

On Sep 26, 2017 7:08 PM, "Brian Webster"  wrote:

> Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems
> were down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS
> are not operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with
> very big spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a
> big issue right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from
> Gino yet.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=214+Eggleston+Hill+Rd.+Cooperstown,+NY+13326+(607&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> (607) 643-4055 Office
>
> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>
> (208) 692-1898 Fax
> Skype: Radiowebst
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And
> more help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club
> here in El Paso that is collecting money for relief.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
> able to find its way onto military transport
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> Yep, exactly what I said.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
> internet service.
>
>
>
> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>
>
>
> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>
> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
> Infrastructure.
>
> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>
>
>
> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>
>
>
> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing
> to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be
> around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a
> certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow,
> from someone, from somewhere)
>
>
>
> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&e

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Brian Webster]

Right now there are limited flights in and out of PR, their FAA systems were 
down as of last report I received this morning. FedEX, UPS, and USPS are not 
operational on the island yet. Flights in and out are VFR only with very big 
spacing and slots controlled and issued from Miami. Logistics is a big issue 
right now. I have not had any direct or specific requests from Gino yet.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

Cooperstown, NY 13326

(607) 643-4055 Office

(607) 435-3988 Mobile

(208) 692-1898 Fax
Skype: Radiowebst

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more 
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in El 
Paso that is collecting money for relief. 

 

On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not sure if 
I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

 

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

 

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

Yep, exactly what I said.

 


 

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

 

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

 

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 

One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.

Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

 

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value.

 

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

 

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

 

Regards.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
 
Miami, FL 33155 
<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232  

Help-desk: (305)663-5518   Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net

 


  _  


From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your 
shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay 
for.

 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.

 

 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House  wrote:

I'm in st Th

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jaime Solorza]

How do we ship gear to Gino? Do shipments all go by plane? Boat?   And more
help is needed there in remote areas according to Puerto Rican Club here in
El Paso that is collecting money for relief.

On Sep 25, 2017 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I am sure he serves some critical facilities.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts
> for logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
> care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
> able to find its way onto military transport
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
>> get it there.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>>
>>> From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>> Yep, exactly what I said.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>>>> internet service.
>>>>
>>>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to
>>>> serve our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>>>
>>>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>>>> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>>>> Infrastructure.
>>>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>>>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the
>>>> Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it,
>>>> then such functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>>>
>>>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>>>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>>>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>>>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>>>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>>>
>>>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they
>>>> true severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time...
>>>> sometimes weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>>
>>>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>>>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>>>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>>>> w

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Chuck McCown]

I am sure he serves some critical facilities.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for 
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term care, 
fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be able to find 
its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could get 
it there.


  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not 
sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need 
Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino


Yep, exactly what I said.





  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  
wrote:

  It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring 
internet service.

  May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve 
our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

  Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
  One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
  Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any 
left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

  Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

  (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just 
pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us 
will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service 
for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, 
from someone, from somewhere)

  These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  
wrote:

  Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events 
are humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.



  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
 wrote:

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and 
general cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. 
 Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to 
be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the 
towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  
What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water 
infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  
wrote:


  With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, 
just cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become 
wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will 
have smartmeters and starbucks

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

that would be an issue to take up with WECAT, they should have contacts for
logistics. If gino serves any critical facilities (hospitals, long term
care, fire/rescue/ems/military/municipality/etc) stuff like that may be
able to find its way onto military transport

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
> get it there.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
>> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
>> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> Yep, exactly what I said.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>>> internet service.
>>>
>>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
>>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>>
>>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>>> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>>> Infrastructure.
>>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>>
>>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the
>>> Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it,
>>> then such functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>>
>>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>>
>>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
>>> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
>>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>>
>>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>>> will pay for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>>>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>>>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>>>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>>>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>>>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in st Thom

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mathew Howard]

I would imagine they'd have to go by boat... not sure how quick you could
get it there.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not
> sure if I can get them to you fast enough to help.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need
> Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman <
> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> Yep, exactly what I said.
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
>> internet service.
>>
>> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
>> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>>
>> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
>> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
>> Infrastructure.
>> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
>> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>>
>> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
>> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
>> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>>
>> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just
>> pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of
>> us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free
>> service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get
>> paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere)
>>
>> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
>> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
>> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>>
>> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
>> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
>> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
>> will pay for.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>>>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>>>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>>>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>>>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>>>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>>>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>>>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Chuck McCown]

Is there a way to ship you COWs?  I can build a few and send them.  Not sure if 
I can get them to you fast enough to help.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af  on behalf of Lewis Bergman 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino


Yep, exactly what I said.




  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 




On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:

  It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

  May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

  Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
  One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
  Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left 
who are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

  Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers 
(end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such 
functional infrastructure is of little value.

  (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

  These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything 
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose 
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers 
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.



  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House  
wrote:

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. 
 Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to 
be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the 
towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  
What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water 
infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  
wrote:


  With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just 
cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, 
never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have 
smartmeters and starbucks
  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier 
than a lot of other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
 wrote:

  I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind 
 and/or solar power.  


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291


  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack 
thereof. Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to res

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mike Hammett]

Is PR ready to accept people and supplies? 

>From what we're hearing about PR, I assume people have to be self-sustaining 
>(food, water, etc.)? 

What methods are there for people getting large items like COWs, generators, 
tower sections, etc. down there? Can't just put it on a truck. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Gino A. Villarini"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:19:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded). Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.) 


From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Lewis Bergman < 
lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 





Yep, exactly what I said. 




Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 





It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service. 


May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 


Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure. 
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ? 


Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value. 


(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere) 


These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years ! 


Regards. 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 






It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your 
shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay 
for. 










On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: 











Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water. 






On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > 
wrote: 






I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. Generators 
are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing. What is there still 
is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 












With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and run 
now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never have to 
worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and 
starbucks 













On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie < 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: 
















Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands. 





















On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Gino A. Villarini]

Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded).  Need Gens, 
COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.)

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Lewis 
Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Yep, exactly what I said.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service.

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living...

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure.
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ?

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value.

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere)

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years !

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 
Street<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
Miami, FL 
33155<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>


From: "Lewis Bergman" mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino
It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your 
shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay 
for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are 
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] 
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone 
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to 
power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, 
everything is dead in the water.


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities.  Generators 
are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  What is there 
still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration
But power is the major issue in the USVI also

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and run 
now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never have to 
worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and 
starbucks
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> wrote:
I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>Fr

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

Yep, exactly what I said.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring
> internet service.
>
> May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve
> our Customers, and that is how we earn a living...
>
> Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns...
> One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our
> Infrastructure.
> Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ?  Do we have any
> left who are able to use the service and pay for it ?
>
> Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers
> (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such
> functional infrastructure is of little value.
>
> (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing
> to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be
> around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a
> certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow,
> from someone, from somewhere)
>
> These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true
> severity of such  disasters  unravel over a period of time... sometimes
> weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years !
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
> else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
> your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
> will pay for.
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
>> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
>> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
>>> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
>>> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
>>> smartmeters and starbucks
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>>>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <
>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>>>>>  and/or solar power.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%2062

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Faisal Imtiaz]

It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet 
service. 

May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our 
Customers, and that is how we earn a living... 

Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... 
One How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our 
Infrastructure. 
Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any left who 
are able to use the service and pay for it ? 

Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end 
users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional 
infrastructure is of little value. 

(I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to 
realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be 
around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a 
certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from 
someone, from somewhere) 

These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true 
severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, 
sometimes months, and in some cases years ! 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Lewis Bergman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else 
> but
> what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your shirt
> trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay for.

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
>> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
>> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
>> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline 
>> to
>> power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray,
>> everything is dead in the water.

>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > 
>> wrote:

>>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
>>> cleanup
>>> like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and utilities are
>>> offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. Generators
>>> are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 months for power to be 
>>> restored.
>>> Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here 
>>> have
>>> most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing. What is there 
>>> still
>>> is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut 
>>>> and run
>>>> now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never 
>>>> have to
>>>> worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and
>>>> starbucks

>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:

>>>>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a 
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> other Caribbean islands.
>>>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser < er...@northcentraltower.com 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or 
>>>>>> solar
>>>>>> power.

>>>>>> Erich Kaiser
>>>>>> North Central Tower
>>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291

>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > 
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
>>>>>>> Existing
>>>>>>> supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
>>>>>>> I've be

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Lewis Bergman]

It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything
else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose
your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers
will pay for.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
> humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
> internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
> internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
> to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
> pray, everything is dead in the water.
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
>> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
>> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
>> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
>> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
>> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
>> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
>> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
>> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
>>
>> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
>> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
>> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
>> smartmeters and starbucks
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
 solar power.

>>>

 Erich Kaiser
 North Central Tower
 er...@northcentraltower.com
 Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
 Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>


 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
> that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering
> of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
> meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any
> infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has
> fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
> that work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>

>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Colin Stanners]

Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
pray, everything is dead in the water.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
wrote:

> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>>>  and/or solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 


 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
 functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�



>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Josh Luthman]

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan/status/912088552145645568


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.
>
> https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
> > With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
> and
> > run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never
> > have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> > smartmeters and starbucks
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> >> lot of other Caribbean islands.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser <
> er...@northcentraltower.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
> and/or
> >>> solar power.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Erich Kaiser
> >>> North Central Tower
> >>> er...@northcentraltower.com
> >>> Office: 630-621-4804
> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>  Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>  supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power,
> and that
>  may be optimistic.
> 
> 
>  bp
>  
> 
>  On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
>  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>  �
>  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering
> of
>  anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>  �
>  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
> meter
>  and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>  damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional
>  HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>  �
>  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
>  that work with emergency preparedness.�
>  �
>  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>  Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
> 
> 
> >>>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Zach Underwood]

I guess no more problems with 5 GHz interference.

Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)

http://ZachUnderwood.me

advance-networking.com



On Sep 24, 2017 7:42 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
and
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
never
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
and/or
>>> solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:

 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and
that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 

 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
functional
 HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Josh Reynolds]

Check out the pictures of what's remaining of the San Juan weather radar.

https://twitter.com/NWSSanJuan

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie
>  wrote:
>>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
>>> solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:

 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 

 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully 
 functional
 HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�


>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mitch Koep]

Be careful Craig and good luck

Mitch Koep


On 9/24/2017 4:27 PM, Craig House wrote:
I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general 
cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and 
utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried 
utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 
months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are 
crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not 
just damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water 
damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration

But power is the major issue in the USVI also

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones > wrote:


With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just 
cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become 
wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. 
Everybody will have smartmeters and starbucks


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
> wrote:


Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier
than a lot of other Caribbean islands.


On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser
mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> wrote:

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more
wind  and/or solar power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince
 wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the
lack thereof. Existing supplies of fuel for generators,
etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been hearing
estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be
optimistic.


bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I
am wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has
heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability
there, but 2 meter and HF is pretty much going to work
irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� Here in
Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional
HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS
church folk that work with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to
convey IP.� Could certainly keep slow speed email
going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Craig House]

I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup 
like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and utilities are 
offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities.  Generators 
are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. 
Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have 
most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing.  What is there 
still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration 
But power is the major issue in the USVI also 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and 
> run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never 
> have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have 
> smartmeters and starbucks
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie 
>>  wrote:
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot 
>> of other Caribbean islands.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser  
>>> wrote:
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or 
>>> solar power.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
 that may be optimistic.
 
 
 bp
 
 
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter 
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully 
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
> work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
 
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Rory Conaway]

How do you protect them in storms like this?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of 
other Caribbean islands.

On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> wrote:
I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
> 
wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp




On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, 
ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and
run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never
have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
smartmeters and starbucks

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
> wrote:
>
>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
>> solar power.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>>> may be optimistic.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>>> �
>>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>>> �
>>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>>> �
>>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
>>> that work with emergency preparedness.�
>>> �
>>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Jason McKemie]

Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot
of other Caribbean islands.

On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> 
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  > wrote:
>
>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>> may be optimistic.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>> �
>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>> �
>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>> �
>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
>> work with emergency preparedness.�
>> �
>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mathew Howard]

I was thinking about that... if it really is going to be 6 months before
they can get power back online, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good
opportunity to start putting a lot of solar panels up down there.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
>> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
>> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
>> may be optimistic.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>> �
>> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
>> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>> �
>> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
>> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
>> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
>> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>> �
>> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
>> work with emergency preparedness.�
>> �
>> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
>> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Mike Hammett]

I think that's how a lot of government and\or utilities in PR are, sadly. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:45:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. They can 
barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is vastly more 
expensive. 

bp
 
On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: 




Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too. I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

Rory 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino 


I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or solar 
power. 
















Erich Kaiser 

North Central Tower 

er...@northcentraltower.com 

Office: 630-621-4804 

Cell: 630-777-9291 




On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic. 
bp  

On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 





I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

� 

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR? 

� 

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.�� 

� 

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.� 

� 

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Steve Jones]

hopefully good comes of this and the federal dollars that will be flowing
in are used to rebuild infrastructure responsibly and sustainably and not
just patchworked back to semifunctionality
this would be a good time to consider addressing the massive debt there too

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape.
> They can barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is
> vastly more expensive.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered
> why they don’t put more cable underground.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino
>
>
>
> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
> solar power.
>
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> er...@northcentraltower.com
>
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
>
> �
>
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
>
> �
>
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
>
> �
>
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
> work with emergency preparedness.�
>
> �
>
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Does FERC not have authority in PR?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. They can 
barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground is vastly more 
expensive.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

   

  Rory

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

   

  I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or 
solar power.  




   

  Erich Kaiser

  North Central Tower

  er...@northcentraltower.com

  Office: 630-621-4804

  Cell: 630-777-9291

   

   

  On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be 
optimistic.

   

bp On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

�

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

�

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 

�

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 

�

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

   

   

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Bill Prince]

PREPA is (from what I've been reading) is in terrible financial shape. 
They can barely afford to have above ground transmission. Below ground 
is vastly more expensive.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always 
wondered why they don’t put more cable underground.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
*Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind 
 and/or solar power.



Erich Kaiser

North Central Tower

er...@northcentraltower.com <mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:


From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
that may be optimistic.


bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�

�

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am
wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from
folks in PR?

�

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2
meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any
infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency
center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��

�

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church
folk that work with emergency preparedness.�

�

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey
IP.� Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Power lines and underground construction are not a good match.  Not only are 
you limited on the voltage due to the dielectric strength of the cable 
insulation but you also have a capacitance introduced that will cause phase 
shifts/power factor issues.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground. 

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

 

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.  




 

Erich Kaiser

North Central Tower

er...@northcentraltower.com

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

 

 

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.

 

bp On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 

  �

  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

  �

  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 

  �

  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 

  �

  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

Especially if you are in an area that gets hurricanes each year.  I realize 
this is arm-chair quarterbacking, but if you have the chance of substantial 
damage and loss of power/water/comms each year, would you not think local 
governmental entities would have built up a pretty robust ability to respond to 
situations like this?

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.   


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. 
I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be 
optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Rory Conaway]

Most of that would have been damaged or destroyed too.  I always wondered why 
they don’t put more cable underground.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or solar 
power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com<mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp




On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
�
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of anyone 
on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
�
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.�� 
Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.��
�
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.�
�
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.�

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Erich Kaiser]

I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind  and/or
solar power.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
> Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
> supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
> may be optimistic.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
> �
> I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
> anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
> �
> Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
> and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
> damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
> functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
> �
> Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that
> work with emergency preparedness.�
> �
> I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
> Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

I would think it would be somewhat sunny at some of the times after a storm 
like this.  One solar panel could run a nice transceiver during sunlight and if 
you were not doing tons of transmitting it could charge a batt.  If you are 
going to invest in a rig and antenna, why not a solar panel?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino

>From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing 
>supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been 
>hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.� 
  �
  I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
  �
  Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and 
HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure 
damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional 
HF, VHF and UHF capability.�� 
  �
  Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that 
work with emergency preparedness.� 
  �
  I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.� 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Bill Prince]

From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. 
Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short 
supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and 
that may be optimistic.



bp


On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.
I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of 
anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 
meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any 
infrastructure damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has 
fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.
Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk 
that work with emergency preparedness.
I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.� 
Could certainly keep slow speed email going.

[AFMUG] Gino

[chuck]

I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.  

I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.  I am wondering of anyone on 
here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?

Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF 
is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.   Here 
in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF 
capability.   

Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work 
with emergency preparedness.  

I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.  Could 
certainly keep slow speed email going.  

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Robert]

I'll bet the majority of his customers are just hoping to have a roof 
and walls much less internet...   Power is certainly nice but shelter, 
water and food are probably primary on their concern lists right now. 
This is a Donate level event.   We all should and hope they do too when 
we face this kind of disaster...  Some of these people had just donated 
their emergency supplies to neighbors on other islands just before this 
came at them.


On 9/20/17 1:59 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Good to hear that.

It sucks, but if the power is mostly down, then at least the customers 
won’t be complaining as much as they also don’t have power to run their 
internet locally anyways.


*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:53 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

Glad he's safe!

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chuck Hogg <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:


I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The
network is mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.


Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Sterling Jacobson]

Good to hear that.

It sucks, but if the power is mostly down, then at least the customers won’t be 
complaining as much as they also don’t have power to run their internet locally 
anyways.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

Glad he's safe!

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chuck Hogg 
mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is 
mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.

Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Jaime Solorza]

Prayers answered on Gino and all...gear is way down list

On Sep 20, 2017 1:48 PM, "Larry Smith"  wrote:

> Prayers for Gino and everyone else in the path.
>
> --
> Larry Smith
> lesm...@ecsis.net
>
> On Wed September 20 2017 13:52, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> > I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is
> > mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chuck
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Larry Smith]

Prayers for Gino and everyone else in the path.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed September 20 2017 13:52, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is
> mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I just saw a report that there is no power anywhere on the island.Also very 
glad he is safe

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Josh Baird" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much
Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2017 1:53 PM

Glad he's safe!

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is 
mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Josh Baird]

Glad he's safe!

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is
> mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>

[AFMUG] Gino is OK...network not so much

[Chuck Hogg]

I just received texts from Gino... He is alive and well... The network is
mostly down and they will be assessing damage soon.

Regards,
Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

Bunch.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> On September 8, 2017 10:24:07 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Uh ya that's the idea.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On September 8, 2017 10:12:39 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AND California!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good Question...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?
>>>>>>> Seems like an easy solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Robert]

One of the most pro-active hurricane responses ever.   One of the few 
benefits of Harvey and the path Irma has taken...


On 9/8/17 8:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

Did a trip to Downtown where most of the DataCenters are..
I have never seen downtown Miami this quiet.
Most builds have been evacuated and sealed off.. (that area is under 
Mandatory Evacuation).


There are some folks / security, bldg engineers around..
Everyone is bracing for the worst.
Lots of folks have first hand experience of going thru Hurricane Andrew, 
and Wilma and others...


Let me put it to you this way... based on the prediction tracks... 
Houston will look like a 'non event' compared to the damage the Whole 
State of Florida will take.. and quiet possibly Georgia


Keep in mind.. the main travel roads are in the 'spine of Florida and 
Georgia' while the other main routes are on the coastal areas...
East side is expected to be on the 'nasty' side of the storm... the west 
side is also going to get it bad


The storm is approx 300miles wide with an eye of approx 20miles... 
(State of Florida is only 140miles wide , with the exception of the 
panhandle area).



(BTW, a 2x4 piece of wood hitting Concrete Cinder Block at 140miles/hr 
will penetrate the cinderblock like a hot knife thru butter.. just to 
give you an idea of what we are talking about..)


!!!

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *"Steve Jones" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 9:47:40 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
lot

Its only a category 4 now, everybody is in the clear, right?

On Sep 8, 2017 8:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
Suite 1337

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:

Good Question...

Have you seen the Path of this thing ?

Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?

Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?

!

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street

<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
Miami, FL 33155

<https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




*From: *"Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably
dealing with a lot

Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until
next week?  Seems like an easy solution.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
Suite 1337

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
Troy, OH 45373

<https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:

Thanks Tim,

Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing
Miami to be on the worst side of the storm (NE
side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida getting
ripped from the South to the North right down the
middle of the State.

   

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Reynolds]

On September 8, 2017 10:24:07 AM CDT, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:
>Uh ya that's the idea.
>
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
>
>> On September 8, 2017 10:12:39 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> AND California!
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good Question...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with
>a
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?
>>>>>> Seems like an easy solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, the most recent ad

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

I believe straw at 100 mph penetrates wood (trees, 2x4, etc).  That's very
little mass and would probably kill someone in a situation like this.

I do hope that things go as good as they can for all of down there.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> Did a trip to Downtown where most of the DataCenters are..
> I have never seen downtown Miami this quiet.
> Most builds have been evacuated and sealed off.. (that area is under
> Mandatory Evacuation).
>
> There are some folks / security, bldg engineers around..
> Everyone is bracing for the worst.
> Lots of folks have first hand experience of going thru Hurricane Andrew,
> and Wilma and others...
>
> Let me put it to you this way... based on the prediction tracks... Houston
> will look like a 'non event' compared to the damage the Whole State of
> Florida will take.. and quiet possibly Georgia
>
> Keep in mind.. the main travel roads are in the 'spine of Florida and
> Georgia' while the other main routes are on the coastal areas...
> East side is expected to be on the 'nasty' side of the storm... the west
> side is also going to get it bad
>
> The storm is approx 300miles wide with an eye of approx 20miles... (State
> of Florida is only 140miles wide , with the exception of the panhandle
> area).
>
>
> (BTW, a 2x4 piece of wood hitting Concrete Cinder Block at 140miles/hr
> will penetrate the cinderblock like a hot knife thru butter.. just to give
> you an idea of what we are talking about..)
>
> !!!
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 9:47:40 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
> lot
>
> Its only a category 4 now, everybody is in the clear, right?
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 8:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Question...
>>>
>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>
>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>
>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>> lot
>>>
>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems
>>> like an easy solution.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Steve Jones]

the problem here is if the fault lines dont crack and we put too many
people over there, just like guam, we run the risk of the entire continent
capsizing. That would be such a mess for the pacific

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Uh ya that's the idea.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> On September 8, 2017 10:12:39 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> AND California!
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good Question...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?
>>>>>> Seems like an easy solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.c

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Did a trip to Downtown where most of the DataCenters are.. 
I have never seen downtown Miami this quiet. 
Most builds have been evacuated and sealed off.. (that area is under Mandatory 
Evacuation). 

There are some folks / security, bldg engineers around.. 
Everyone is bracing for the worst. 
Lots of folks have first hand experience of going thru Hurricane Andrew, and 
Wilma and others... 

Let me put it to you this way... based on the prediction tracks... Houston will 
look like a 'non event' compared to the damage the Whole State of Florida will 
take.. and quiet possibly Georgia 

Keep in mind.. the main travel roads are in the 'spine of Florida and Georgia' 
while the other main routes are on the coastal areas... 
East side is expected to be on the 'nasty' side of the storm... the west side 
is also going to get it bad 

The storm is approx 300miles wide with an eye of approx 20miles... (State of 
Florida is only 140miles wide , with the exception of the panhandle area). 

(BTW, a 2x4 piece of wood hitting Concrete Cinder Block at 140miles/hr will 
penetrate the cinderblock like a hot knife thru butter.. just to give you an 
idea of what we are talking about..) 

!!! 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 9:47:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

> Its only a category 4 now, everybody is in the clear, right?

> On Sep 8, 2017 8:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote:

>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.

>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373

>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>> wrote:

>>> Good Question...

>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?

>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?

>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?

>>> !

>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week? Seems 
>>>> like an
>>>> easy solution.

>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> Thanks Tim,

>>>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the 
>>>>> worst
>>>>> side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida getting
>>>>> ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the State.

>>>>> And even Georgia & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..

>>>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & breadth 
>>>>> of it
>>>>> ... is not going to be pretty.

>>>>> Keep us in your prayers...

>>>>> Regards.

>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>> From: "Tim Reichhart" < timreichh...@hometowncable.net >
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>>>>> Faisal

>>>>>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers 
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>> from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.

>>>>>> Tim

>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

Uh ya that's the idea.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> On September 8, 2017 10:12:39 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> AND California!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good Question...
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>>>
>>>>> !
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>>
>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>>> lot
>>>>>
>>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?
>>>>> Seems like an easy solution.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on
>>>>>> the worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of
>>>>>> Florida getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the State.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the afterm

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Reynolds]

On September 8, 2017 10:12:39 AM CDT, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:
>AND California!
>
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>wrote:
>
>> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good Question...
>>>>
>>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>>
>>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>>
>>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>>
>>>> !
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>> lot
>>>>
>>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week? 
>Seems
>>>> like an easy solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be
>on the
>>>>> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of
>Florida
>>>>> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle
>of the
>>>>> State.
>>>>>
>>>>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width &
>>>>> breadth of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep us in your prayers...
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>>
>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: 

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[chuck]

It cause it to break off and fall into the ocean.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 9:12 AM
To: Josh Reynolds 
Cc: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

AND California!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

  On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman 
 wrote: 
Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz  
wrote:

  Good Question... 

  Have you seen the Path of this thing ? 

  Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ? 

  Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?

  !

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
lot

Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems 
like an easy solution.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
 wrote:

  Thanks Tim,

  Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on 
the worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida 
getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the State.

  And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..

  Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & 
breadth of it ... is not going to be pretty.

  Keep us in your prayers...


  Regards. 



  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Tim Reichhart" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
lot

Faisal

be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit 
prayers coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.



Tim




--
  -Original Message-
  From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Date: 09/07/17 10:15
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
lot


  :)


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:18:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with 
a lot

My new motto..si vis pacem, bibere Tecate!!!

On Sep 7, 2017 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

  Farsaaida Habibi? 

  On Sep 7, 2017 5:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
 wrote:

On September 7, 2017 6:27:45 PM CDT, Faisal Imtiaz 
 wrote: 
  Cool... yes that is the correct translation... 

  So a trivia question for you ...  How do the Christian 
Arabs (and yes there are many of those) say Lord Willing in Arabic ? 
  (Hint, exactly how you said it ! )

  (you can ask your son to translate the reply for you ... 
:) 'With the Lord's Permission' )

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

AND California!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Question...
>>>
>>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>>
>>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>>
>>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>> lot
>>>
>>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems
>>> like an easy solution.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the
>>>> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida
>>>> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the
>>>> State.
>>>>
>>>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>>>
>>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width &
>>>> breadth of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>>>>
>>>> Keep us in your prayers...
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Tim Reichhart" 
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>> lot
>>>>
>>>> Faisal
>>>>
>>>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers
>>>> coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Reynolds]

On September 8, 2017 8:38:06 AM CDT, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
>Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>
>
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
>
>wrote:
>
>> Good Question...
>>
>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>
>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>
>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>
>> !
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Miami, FL 33155
>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>> lot
>>
>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week? 
>Seems
>> like an easy solution.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>
>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on
>the
>>> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of
>Florida
>>> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of
>the
>>> State.
>>>
>>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>>
>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width &
>breadth
>>> of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>>>
>>> Keep us in your prayers...
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Tim Reichhart" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>> lot
>>>
>>> Faisal
>>>
>>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit
>prayers
>>> coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>lot
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>
><https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* "Jaime S

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Steve Jones]

Its only a category 4 now, everybody is in the clear, right?

On Sep 8, 2017 8:38 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> Good Question...
>>
>> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>>
>> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>>
>> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>>
>> !
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>> lot
>>
>> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems
>> like an easy solution.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>
>>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the
>>> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida
>>> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the
>>> State.
>>>
>>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>>
>>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width &
>>> breadth of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>>>
>>> Keep us in your prayers...
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Tim Reichhart" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>> lot
>>>
>>> Faisal
>>>
>>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers
>>> coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> &l

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

Move em to California so we can finally be rid of that place.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> Good Question...
>
> Have you seen the Path of this thing ?
>
> Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ?
>
> Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ?
>
> !
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
> lot
>
> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems
> like an easy solution.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim,
>>
>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the
>> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida
>> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the
>> State.
>>
>> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>>
>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & breadth
>> of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>>
>> Keep us in your prayers...
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Tim Reichhart" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>> lot
>>
>> Faisal
>>
>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers
>> coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From:* "Jaime Solorza" 
>> *To:* "Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:18:40 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>> lot
>>
>> My new motto..si vis pacem, bibere Tecate!!!
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Farsaaida Habibi?
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017 5:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On September 7, 2017 6:27:45 PM CDT, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Good Question... 

Have you seen the Path of this thing ? 

Want to move 20.61million people out of Florida to Where ? 

Want to move another 10.3million people out of Georgia too ? 

! 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:43:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

> Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week? Seems like an
> easy solution.

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> Thanks Tim,

>> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the worst
>> side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida getting
>> ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the State.

>> And even Georgia & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..

>> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & breadth of 
>> it
>> ... is not going to be pretty.

>> Keep us in your prayers...

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Tim Reichhart" < timreichh...@hometowncable.net >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>> Faisal

>>> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers 
>>> coming
>>> from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.

>>> Tim

>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>>> :)

>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:18:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>>>> My new motto..si vis pacem, bibere Tecate!!!

>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Farsaaida Habibi?

>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 5:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote:

>>>>>>> On September 7, 2017 6:27:45 PM CDT, Faisal Imtiaz < 
>>>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Cool... yes that is the correct translation...

>>>>>>>> So a trivia question for you ... How do the Christian Arabs (and yes 
>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>> many of those) say Lord Willing in Arabic ?
>>>>>>>> (Hint, exactly how you said it ! )

>>>>>>>> (you can ask your son to translate the reply for you ... :) 'With 
>>>>>>>> the Lord's
>>>>>>>> Permission' )

>>>>>>>> Regards.

>>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 7:05:24 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Josh Luthman]

Why doesn't everyone simply move out of Florida until next week?  Seems
like an easy solution.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the
> worst side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida
> getting ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the
> State.
>
> And even Georgia  & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch..
>
> Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & breadth
> of it ... is not going to be pretty.
>
> Keep us in your prayers...
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> ------
>
> *From: *"Tim Reichhart" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
> lot
>
> Faisal
>
> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers
> coming from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> --
> -Original Message-
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Miami, FL 33155
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From:* "Jaime Solorza" 
> *To:* "Animal Farm" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:18:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
> lot
>
> My new motto..si vis pacem, bibere Tecate!!!
>
> On Sep 7, 2017 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> Farsaaida Habibi?
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017 5:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> On September 7, 2017 6:27:45 PM CDT, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cool... yes that is the correct translation...
>>>>
>>>> So a trivia question for you ...  How do the Christian Arabs (and yes
>>>> there are many of those) say Lord Willing in Arabic ?
>>>> (Hint, exactly how you said it ! )
>>>>
>>>> (you can ask your son to translate the reply for you ... :) 'With
>>>> the Lord's Permission' )
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=7266+SW+48+Street+Miami,+FL+33155&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <http://tel:(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <http://tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or
>>>> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From:* "Jaime Solorza" 
>>>> *To:* "Animal Farm" 
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 7:05:24 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a
>>>> lot
>>>>
>>>> Not at all...i meant it..our drummer in Windy City signs Lord Willing
>>>> on every text or email he sends us...my son teaches me Arabic and Farsi he
>>>> learned...I wish I could speak fluently in more languages.
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 4:59 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LOL !.. you trying to stir up trouble again ?
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot....

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Thanks Tim, 

Yes, the most recent advisory is not good... Showing Miami to be on the worst 
side of the storm (NE side)... and quiet possible whole of Florida getting 
ripped from the South to the North right down the middle of the State. 

And even Georgia & Tennessee getting a fairly strong punch.. 

Regardless of how it slices and dices, the aftermath, the width & breadth of it 
... is not going to be pretty. 

Keep us in your prayers... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Tim Reichhart" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

> Faisal

> be safe down there looks like miami is going take a direct hit prayers coming
> from ohio!!! Also Gino im glad you made it safe.

> Tim

>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 09/07/17 10:15
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>> :)

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:18:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a lot

>>> My new motto..si vis pacem, bibere Tecate!!!

>>> On Sep 7, 2017 6:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>> Farsaaida Habibi?

>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 5:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote:

>>>>> On September 7, 2017 6:27:45 PM CDT, Faisal Imtiaz < 
>>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Cool... yes that is the correct translation...

>>>>>> So a trivia question for you ... How do the Christian Arabs (and yes 
>>>>>> there are
>>>>>> many of those) say Lord Willing in Arabic ?
>>>>>> (Hint, exactly how you said it ! )

>>>>>> (you can ask your son to translate the reply for you ... :) 'With 
>>>>>> the Lord's
>>>>>> Permission' )

>>>>>> Regards.

>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 7:05:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
>>>>>>> lot

>>>>>>> Not at all...i meant it..our drummer in Windy City signs Lord Willing 
>>>>>>> on every
>>>>>>> text or email he sends us...my son teaches me Arabic and Farsi he 
>>>>>>> learned...I
>>>>>>> wish I could speak fluently in more languages.

>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 4:59 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> LOL !.. you trying to stir up trouble again ?

>>>>>>>> reply: beizinillaha

>>>>>>>> Regards.

>>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:03:51 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, I know you are probably dealing with a 
>>>>>>>>> lot

>>>>>>>>> Inshallah!

>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017 2:38 PM, "George Skorup" < george.sko...@cbcast.com > 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Someone asked on the WISPA members list. Gino responded. He's OK. 
>>>>>>>>>> Lotsa power
>>>>>>>>>> out.

>>>>>>>>>> On 9/7/2017 3:16 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> But if you have connectivity, can you let us know you are ok?

>>>>> Confirmed. Several of my co-workers speak fluent Arabic :)
>>>>> --
>>>>> Josh Reynolds