Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Josh Reynolds]

The biggest problem is the price jump from silicon with SDKs that natively
support it, from what I've heard.

I have no experience with the 802.1ag Linux tools Arista uses, which are
the open source ones. I may need to snag a copy of vEOS...

On Jan 21, 2017 1:53 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

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> *From: *"Jon Langeler" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, January 21, 2017 1:13:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
>
> That's a start
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92278
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/
> Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807091
> http://community.mimosa.co/t/request-y-1731-performance-monitoring/1741
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Your-Ideas/Request-Y-1731-
> Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/67529
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/
> Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807097
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/Request-Y-1731-
> Performance-Monitoring/m-p/1807098
>
>
>
> -
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> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:39:23 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
>
> I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions.
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
>
> You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
> several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start
>
> You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
> with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
> when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
> > Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> > Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> > monitor backhauls and maybe APs
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think a better question is:
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
> >> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
> >>
> >> Jon Langeler
> >> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Mike Hammett]

Feel free to bump, upvote, contribute, copy to other vendors I didn't think of, 
etc. 




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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -

From: "Jon Langeler"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 1:13:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 


That's a start 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 



On Jan 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 





http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92278 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807091
 
http://community.mimosa.co/t/request-y-1731-performance-monitoring/1741 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Your-Ideas/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/67529
 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807097
 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/m-p/1807098
 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:39:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 


I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 

You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are 
several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start 

You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for 
with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly 
when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec. 

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > 
wrote: 
> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a 
> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to 
> monitor backhauls and maybe APs 
> 
> Jon Langeler 
> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: 
> 
> I think a better question is: 
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish? 
> 
> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > wrote: 
>> 
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions? 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler 
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Jon Langeler]

That's a start 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92278
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807091
> http://community.mimosa.co/t/request-y-1731-performance-monitoring/1741
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Your-Ideas/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/67529
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807097
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/m-p/1807098
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:39:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
> 
> I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
> 
> You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
> several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start
> 
> You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
> with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
> when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  
> wrote:
> > Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> > Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> > monitor backhauls and maybe APs
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> >
> > I think a better question is:
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
> >> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
> >>
> >> Jon Langeler
> >> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Mike Hammett]

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92278 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807091
 
http://community.mimosa.co/t/request-y-1731-performance-monitoring/1741 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Your-Ideas/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/67529
 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/idi-p/1807097
 
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/Request-Y-1731-Performance-Monitoring/m-p/1807098
 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:39:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 


I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 

You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are 
several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start 

You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for 
with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly 
when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec. 

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  
wrote: 
> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a 
> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to 
> monitor backhauls and maybe APs 
> 
> Jon Langeler 
> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote: 
> 
> I think a better question is: 
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish? 
> 
> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote: 
>> 
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions? 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler 
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Josh Reynolds]

Development and thus product cost and much lower networking education.

On Jan 21, 2017 9:39 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> ------
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
>
> You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
> several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start
>
> You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
> with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
> when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
> > Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> > Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> > monitor backhauls and maybe APs
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think a better question is:
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
> >> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
> >>
> >> Jon Langeler
> >> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Jon Langeler]

Ignitenet has it listed as in a future software release. Typically it costs 
more $$$ is why 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 21, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?
> 
> You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
> several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start
> 
> You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
> with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
> when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  
> wrote:
> > Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> > Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> > monitor backhauls and maybe APs
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> >
> > I think a better question is:
> >
> > What are you trying to accomplish?
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
> >> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
> >>
> >> Jon Langeler
> >> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >>
> >
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Mike Hammett]

I don't know why WISP world doesn't adopt more industry-standard solutions. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:27:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring? 

You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are 
several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start 

You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for 
with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly 
when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec. 

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  
wrote: 
> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a 
> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to 
> monitor backhauls and maybe APs 
> 
> Jon Langeler 
> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote: 
> 
> I think a better question is: 
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish? 
> 
> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote: 
>> 
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions? 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler 
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Ken Hohhof]

Agreed, I think you will find out more by sending a burst of 10 pings every 1-5 
minutes.  Now you can calculate and plot packet loss as well as min/avg/max 
latency.  One lonely ping doesn’t tell you much.  We do it with PRTG but I 
suspect most network monitor tools can do this.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 6:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

 

We use a cacti plugin called "Advanced Ping". It will perform a group of pings 
every polling period. We don't use it on every client, but use it on ones that 
we know have occasional latency and/or packet loss issues.

We generally have it do a barrage of 10 pings every polling period (once every 
5 minutes, or once every 1 minute depending on the cacti configuration). It 
records min/max/average latency, and also % packet loss. Puts the info into a 
graph.

Looks like this:



 

bp

 

On 1/19/2017 7:10 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I think a better question is: 

 

What are you trying to accomplish?

 

On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Bill Prince]

We use a cacti plugin called "Advanced Ping". It will perform a group of 
pings every polling period. We don't use it on every client, but use it 
on ones that we know have occasional latency and/or packet loss issues.


We generally have it do a barrage of 10 pings every polling period (once 
every 5 minutes, or once every 1 minute depending on the cacti 
configuration). It records min/max/average latency, and also % packet 
loss. Puts the info into a graph.


Looks like this:


bp


On 1/19/2017 7:10 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I think a better question is:

What are you trying to accomplish?

On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler" > wrote:


I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one
each time. Any alternatives or suggestions?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Simon Westlake]

Smokeping would work, you'd just need to run on a longer cycle. If it's 
only a few different devices, you can probably run it on a 60 second 
interval safely enough. Rather than sending 1 ping a second, sending 10 
or 20 every 60 seconds will give you a pretty good look at jitter, 
latency, and packetloss across the network.


If you're trying to troubleshoot a known issue and you want more 
granular data, you could look at something like PingPlotter over a short 
period of time.


On 1/19/2017 4:38 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

I've never seen that feature on a Netonix like switch without it costing $3000. 
ICMP has always done good enough

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.



On Jan 19, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start

You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.


On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
monitor backhauls and maybe APs

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

I think a better question is:

What are you trying to accomplish?


On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:

I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
time. Any alternatives or suggestions?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


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Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Jon Langeler]

I've never seen that feature on a Netonix like switch without it costing $3000. 
ICMP has always done good enough 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
> several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start
> 
> You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
> with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
> when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  
>> wrote:
>> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
>> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
>> monitor backhauls and maybe APs
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>> 
>> I think a better question is:
>> 
>> What are you trying to accomplish?
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
>>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Josh Luthman]

Smokeping.  Best tool for that IMO.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> monitor backhauls and maybe APs
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> I think a better question is:
>
> What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
>
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Josh Reynolds]

You are looking for a carrier / telco feature, of which there are
several variants. CCM is one, "loopback testing" is another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ag is a good place to start

You won't get the level of reliability or accuracy you are looking for
with regular ICMP echo, and some gear actually responds very poorly
when the management interface is ping'd every 1 sec.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
> Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a
> Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to
> monitor backhauls and maybe APs
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> I think a better question is:
>
> What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
>>
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Jon Langeler]

Just wanting to keep an eye out for packet loss. I currently do it with a 
Windows program but I'm looking for something more stable. It's mostly to 
monitor backhauls and maybe APs

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> I think a better question is:
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish?
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Josh Reynolds]

I think a better question is:

What are you trying to accomplish?

On Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:

> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each
> time. Any alternatives or suggestions?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Simon Westlake]

Jon,

That would probably crush Smokeping pretty fast - I've used it quite a 
bit, and I don't think it's built to support pinging every second to any 
decent amount of devices. From a physics standpoint, it would have to be 
able to send every ping and receive a response within a second in order 
to begin the next cycle, so that would rapidly become impossible with 
any decent number of devices (and the amount of data being transferred 
would become very large.)


If you're only pinging 5-10 devices, it might work, but probably not 
much beyond that.


On 1/18/2017 9:13 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:

I want a ping to every device, every second.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.



On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

Are you meaning only 1 ping per second to each device? Or is it only sending 1 
ping to device a, then the next second is sends a ping to device b (likes its 
not multithreded)?


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On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:

I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
Any alternatives or suggestions?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


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Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Justin Wilson]

Look at the following in your smoking.cgi


step (mandatory setting)
Duration of the base operation interval of SmokePing in seconds. SmokePing will 
venture out every step seconds to ping your target hosts. If 
'concurrent_probes' is set to 'yes' (see above), this variable can be 
overridden by each probe. Note that the step in the RRD files is fixed when 
they are originally generated, and if you change the step parameter afterwards, 
you'll have to delete the old RRD files or somehow convert them.


By default the step is 300 seconds and 20 pings.  This means it will ping 20 
times in a 5 minute interval.


IMHO pinging every second is a little bit excessive, but to each their own.  
Even on aggressive hosts I have mine set to 10 seconds.  

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

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> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:13 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
> 
> I want a ping to every device, every second. 
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you meaning only 1 ping per second to each device? Or is it only sending 
>> 1 ping to device a, then the next second is sends a ping to device b (likes 
>> its not multithreded)?
>> 
>> 
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>> 
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>> 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions? 
>>> 
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Jon Langeler]

I want a ping to every device, every second. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Are you meaning only 1 ping per second to each device? Or is it only sending 
> 1 ping to device a, then the next second is sends a ping to device b (likes 
> its not multithreded)?
> 
> 
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
> 
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
> 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each 
>> time. Any alternatives or suggestions? 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ping monitoring?

[Justin Wilson]

Are you meaning only 1 ping per second to each device? Or is it only sending 1 
ping to device a, then the next second is sends a ping to device b (likes its 
not multithreded)?


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
> 
> I can't get smokeping to send a ping say every second and only one each time. 
> Any alternatives or suggestions? 
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>