subject:"Re\: \[AFMUG\] Session Counts in ePMP"

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott


Brandon,

As you grow you will need to move to something like Powercode. Knowing 
how your network works Powercode will really help you. You want to drop 
the monies now before you are so busy you can't stop to implement it. :)


Before powercode:

+1 on cacti.

   https://github.com/m0sia/cacti-ePMP

   
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-2000-and-1000/ePMP-OIDs/td-p/40233

   http://unidata.com.ua/epmp/add/files/sr2.6/CAMBIUM-ePMP-2.6-MIB.txt

and a +1 on Nagios.

Let me know if you would like any help,


ryan


On 6/14/16 11:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
At Powercode?  User since 2008, if you're still interested contact me 
offlist and I'll make sure you're taken care of.


Are you using any software at all?  If not, you'll want to pick 
something up to do SNMP.  CactiEZ would get things started, but if it 
were me I'd get Powercode/VISP/Wispmon/etc to do everything once (one 
place for billing, customer equipment, monitoring, etc).



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Brandon Yuchasz 
<li...@gogebicrange.net <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>> wrote:


Who did you ask and how loudly?  No powercode here I will have to
find a different option.

How does Ubiquiti handle this type of thing? We are 100% cambium
in our network and only recently started in with the ePMP.

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:36 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

I've asked for this stuff.  For now the signal and session are
graphed in Powercode.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 14, 2016 10:25 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz"
<li...@gogebicrange.net <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>> wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450
platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on
ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can log into the AP pull up the Session
Status tab and then scroll through looking at the session counts,
re-registrations, power levels and even see the SMs that are idle.
So if you are looking up a customer that “hasn’t has internet
since Monday” and you see they went idle with only one session
count and a  -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone
support and they verify no green light.  On the other hand now
that the leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll
through the session counts and find customers that have been up
for 8 years that are now having issues with the tree cover. 568
session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the schedule and
get out at take a look.

So…. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I can’t
even find if a session is idle.  I can find how many SMs have
registered to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if
all the extras are one SM , guys doing site surveys or a combo of
both. So how are you guys troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I
feel blind using this stuff.

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>




--

Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
Community Networking Solutions
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
360-499-2164

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Jay Weekley


You are not alone.

Josh Luthman wrote:

Even if the radio is offline you should have a history of stats IMO


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
<li...@gogebicrange.net <mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>> wrote:


Just had a call from a customer that was “off line” was an ePMP I
dreaded logging in to take a look because if its off line I am not
going to see a thing. Luckily this was a router / user issue not
our equipment.

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:06 PM


*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

All I want for Christmas is SM proxy access via AP like Canopy.
ICC and proxy is a godsend.

On 6/14/2016 11:03 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

I am kind of combining the two conversations between you and
Josh at this point but we have been using PRTG for monitoring
but only at the AP and backhaul level. On a few rate cases I
have added some SMs into it for a while but generally have not
needed to. ï¿½I will have to look into some options along
these lines for monitoring at the SM level.

I know its sacrilegious to even say but we use QuickBooks for
our billing and our oldest custom base is billed quarterly.
Newer customers or those that chose to change over use ACH
monthly and we just donï¿½t have much need for a different
billing system this takes very little time to manage and works
well for us.

ï¿½

I am curious if they have any plans to add these statistics to
the ePMP platform any Cambium team members lurking around this
list care to comment?

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:31 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom
scripting I wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite
graphing platform.ï¿½ I graph these parameters and they have
worked well for us for a number of years.ï¿½ We monitor every
SM in the network.

FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in
Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in
Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor
those SMs?

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls
when they have not had internet for three days. I
generally tell them I have put them in the schedule for
Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was
right by their house twice during the week. I know I
should bite my tongue but sometimes I canï¿½t help myself.
ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its hasnï¿½t
working in days thinking it will add some level of
priority to it when in fact it just went off line a few
minutes ago.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes
it very easy to see if they have changing signal levels,
or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like if they slowly lose
signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it
moved.ï¿½ If it just dropped offline, then power
supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when they say
'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check
with your Kids, because someone has been streaming non
stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days' really is only 2 hours, but they
want you to think it's worse.

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

Even if the radio is offline you should have a history of stats IMO


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Brandon Yuchasz <li...@gogebicrange.net>
wrote:

> Just had a call from a customer that was “off line” was an ePMP I dreaded
> logging in to take a look because if its off line I am not going to see a
> thing. Luckily this was a router / user issue not our equipment.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:06 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>
>
>
> All I want for Christmas is SM proxy access via AP like Canopy. ICC and
> proxy is a godsend.
>
> On 6/14/2016 11:03 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> I am kind of combining the two conversations between you and Josh at this
> point but we have been using PRTG for monitoring but only at the AP and
> backhaul level. On a few rate cases I have added some SMs into it for a
> while but generally have not needed to. ï¿½I will have to look into some
> options along these lines for monitoring at the SM level.
>
> I know its sacrilegious to even say but we use QuickBooks for our billing
> and our oldest custom base is billed quarterly. Newer customers or those
> that chose to change over use ACH monthly and we just donï¿½t have much
> need for a different billing system this takes very little time to manage
> and works well for us.
>
> ï¿½
>
> I am curious if they have any plans to add these statistics to the ePMP
> platform any Cambium team members lurking around this list care to comment?
>
> ï¿½
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:31 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>
> ï¿½
>
> I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I
> wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I
> graph these parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of
> years.ï¿½ We monitor every SM in the network.
>
> FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
> 450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
> EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
>
> On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Nate,
>
> Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?
>
> I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not
> had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the
> schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was
> right by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue
> but sometimes I canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people
> say its hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some level of
> priority to it when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago.
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>
> ï¿½
>
> I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to
> see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like
> if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
> trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
> dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
> they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
> Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
> really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.
>
> On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform
> I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450
> you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll
> through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and
> even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that
> ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ a

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Just had a call from a customer that was off line was an ePMP I dreaded
logging in to take a look because if its off line I am not going to see a
thing. Luckily this was a router / user issue not our equipment.

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

 

All I want for Christmas is SM proxy access via AP like Canopy. ICC and
proxy is a godsend.

On 6/14/2016 11:03 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

I am kind of combining the two conversations between you and Josh at this
point but we have been using PRTG for monitoring but only at the AP and
backhaul level. On a few rate cases I have added some SMs into it for a
while but generally have not needed to. ï¿½I will have to look into some
options along these lines for monitoring at the SM level.

I know its sacrilegious to even say but we use QuickBooks for our billing
and our oldest custom base is billed quarterly. Newer customers or those
that chose to change over use ACH monthly and we just donï¿½t have much need
for a different billing system this takes very little time to manage and
works well for us. 

ï¿½

I am curious if they have any plans to add these statistics to the ePMP
platform any Cambium team members lurking around this list care to comment?

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I wrote,
but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I graph these
parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of years.ï¿½ We
monitor every SM in the network. 

FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs? 

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not
had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the
schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was right
by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue but
sometimes I canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its
hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it
when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago. 

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to see
if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like if
they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform I
am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you
can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through
looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even see
the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t
has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one
session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and
they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the leaves are on
the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and
find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having issues with
the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the
schedule and get out at take a look. 

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t even
find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered to the
AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM ,
guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff. 

ï¿½

Best r

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread George Skorup

All I want for Christmas is SM proxy access via AP like Canopy. ICC and 
proxy is a godsend.


On 6/14/2016 11:03 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


I am kind of combining the two conversations between you and Josh at 
this point but we have been using PRTG for monitoring but only at the 
AP and backhaul level. On a few rate cases I have added some SMs into 
it for a while but generally have not needed to.  I will have to look 
into some options along these lines for monitoring at the SM level.


I know its sacrilegious to even say but we use QuickBooks for our 
billing and our oldest custom base is billed quarterly. Newer 
customers or those that chose to change over use ACH monthly and we 
just donï¿½t have much need for a different billing system this takes 
very little time to manage and works well for us.


I am curious if they have any plans to add these statistics to the 
ePMP platform any Cambium team members lurking around this list care 
to comment?


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:31 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I 
wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I 
graph these parameters and they have worked well for us for a number 
of years.ï¿½ We monitor every SM in the network.


FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they
have not had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have
put them in the schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they
didnï¿½t call sooner I was right by their house twice during the
week. I know I should bite my tongue but sometimes I canï¿½t help
myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its hasnï¿½t
working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it
when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very
easy to see if they have changing signal levels, or when they
dropped out.ï¿½ Like if they slowly lose signal the entire month
of May, then you know it's trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db
one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just dropped offline, then power
supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when they say 'No
internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your Kids,
because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the
450 platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting
customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can log into the AP pull
up the Session Status tab and then scroll through looking at
the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even
see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer
that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they
went idle with only one session count and aï¿½ -62 at the
time. You can assume the power supply got damaged in the storm
Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and they
verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the
leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll
through the session counts and find customers that have been
up for 8 years that are now having issues with the tree cover.
568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the
schedule and get out at take a look.

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I
canï¿½t even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many
SMs have registered to the AP but no specifics about which SM
it was or if all the extras are one SM , guys doing site
surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Agree with Josh, very nice. Code has never been my strong suite but I will need 
to come up with something if we keep deploying this stuff.

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

 

It's one of those that it may not work for you, but it works for me type of 
things.  I have a Spreadsheet for every POP that I put all the site equipment 
in, UPS, Site Monitor, Backhauls, routers, etc.  Then a set of scripts read 
that file and builds the MRTG cfg File and web pages.  The script also does 
some other things, like on the 450 equipment, it calculates what the Signal 
level should be based off of the SM Distance and installed antenna 
bare/Stinger/dish and puts that in the webpage.  

On 6/14/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

How do you add devices to be monitored?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I wrote, but 
you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I graph these 
parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of years.ï¿½ We 
monitor every SM in the network. 

FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs? 

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not had 
internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the schedule 
for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was right by their 
house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue but sometimes I 
canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its hasnï¿½t 
working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it when in fact 
it just went off line a few minutes ago. 

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to see if 
they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like if they 
slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's trees.ï¿½ But if 
they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just dropped offline, then 
power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when they say 'No internet for 
a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your Kids, because someone has been 
streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days' really is only 2 hours, but they want 
you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform I am 
having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can 
log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through looking 
at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even see the SMs that 
are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet 
since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one session count and aï¿½ 
-62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got damaged in the storm 
Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and they verify no green 
light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the leaves are on the trees and nice and 
thick we can scroll through the session counts and find customers that have 
been up for 8 years that are now having issues with the tree cover. 568 session 
counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the schedule and get out at take a 
look. 

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t even 
find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered to the AP 
but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM , guys 
doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys troubleshooting the 
ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff. 

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

I am kind of combining the two conversations between you and Josh at this
point but we have been using PRTG for monitoring but only at the AP and
backhaul level. On a few rate cases I have added some SMs into it for a
while but generally have not needed to.  I will have to look into some
options along these lines for monitoring at the SM level.

I know its sacrilegious to even say but we use QuickBooks for our billing
and our oldest custom base is billed quarterly. Newer customers or those
that chose to change over use ACH monthly and we just dont have much need
for a different billing system this takes very little time to manage and
works well for us. 

 

I am curious if they have any plans to add these statistics to the ePMP
platform any Cambium team members lurking around this list care to comment?

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

 

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I wrote,
but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I graph these
parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of years.ï¿½ We
monitor every SM in the network. 

FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs? 

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not
had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the
schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was right
by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue but
sometimes I canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its
hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it
when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago. 

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to see
if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like if
they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform I
am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you
can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through
looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even see
the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t
has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one
session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and
they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the leaves are on
the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and
find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having issues with
the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the
schedule and get out at take a look. 

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t even
find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered to the
AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM ,
guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff. 

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

WOW.  That's very nice work


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> It's one of those that it may not work for you, but it works for me type
> of things.  I have a Spreadsheet for every POP that I put all the site
> equipment in, UPS, Site Monitor, Backhauls, routers, etc.  Then a set of
> scripts read that file and builds the MRTG cfg File and web pages.  The
> script also does some other things, like on the 450 equipment, it
> calculates what the Signal level should be based off of the SM Distance and
> installed antenna bare/Stinger/dish and puts that in the webpage.
>
> On 6/14/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> How do you add devices to be monitored?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I
>> wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I
>> graph these parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of
>> years.ï¿½ We monitor every SM in the network.
>>
>> FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
>> 450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
>> EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
>>
>> On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>>
>> Nate,
>>
>> Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?
>>
>> I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have
>> not had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in
>> the schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was
>> right by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue
>> but sometimes I canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people
>> say its hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some level of
>> priority to it when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> <http://www.gogebicrange.net>www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to
>> see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like
>> if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
>> trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
>> dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
>> they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
>> Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
>> really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.
>>
>> On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>>
>> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450
>> platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK
>> and 450 you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then
>> scroll through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power
>> levels and even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a
>> customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they
>> went idle with only one session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can
>> assume the power supply got damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little
>> on the phone support and they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand
>> now that the leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll
>> through the session counts and find customers that have been up for 8 years
>> that are now having issues with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24
>> hours. Yep best put them in the schedule and get out at take a look.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t
>> even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered
>> to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are
>> one SM , guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
>> troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Nate Burke

It's one of those that it may not work for you, but it works for me type 
of things.  I have a Spreadsheet for every POP that I put all the site 
equipment in, UPS, Site Monitor, Backhauls, routers, etc. Then a set of 
scripts read that file and builds the MRTG cfg File and web pages.  The 
script also does some other things, like on the 450 equipment, it 
calculates what the Signal level should be based off of the SM Distance 
and installed antenna bare/Stinger/dish and puts that in the webpage.


On 6/14/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

How do you add devices to be monitored?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com 
<mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:


I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting
I wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing
platform.ï¿½ I graph these parameters and they have worked well
for us for a number of years.ï¿½ We monitor every SM in the network.

FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they
have not had internet for three days. I generally tell them I
have put them in the schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they
didnï¿½t call sooner I was right by their house twice during the
week. I know I should bite my tongue but sometimes I canï¿½t help
myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people say its hasnï¿½t
working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it
when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago.

ï¿½

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

ï¿½

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very
easy to see if they have changing signal levels, or when they
dropped out.ï¿½ Like if they slowly lose signal the entire month
of May, then you know it's trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db
one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just dropped offline, then power
supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when they say 'No
internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2
days' really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the
450 platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting
customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can log into the AP
pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through
looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels
and even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up
a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ and
you see they went idle with only one session count and aï¿½
-62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got damaged
in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support
and they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that
the leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll
through the session counts and find customers that have been
up for 8 years that are now having issues with the tree
cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in
the schedule and get out at take a look.

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP.
I canï¿½t even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how
many SMs have registered to the AP but no specifics about
which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM , guys doing
site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this
stuff.

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

How do you add devices to be monitored?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I
> wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.ï¿½ I
> graph these parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of
> years.ï¿½ We monitor every SM in the network.
>
> FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
> 450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
> EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
>
> On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Nate,
>
> Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?
>
> I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not
> had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the
> schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I was
> right by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue
> but sometimes I canï¿½t help myself. ï¿½I think a lot of the time people
> say its hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some level of
> priority to it when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago.
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>
> ï¿½
>
> I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to
> see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like
> if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
> trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
> dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
> they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
> Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
> really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.
>
> On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform
> I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450
> you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll
> through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and
> even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that
> ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with
> only one session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power
> supply got damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone
> support and they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the
> leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the
> session counts and find customers that have been up for 8 years that are
> now having issues with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep
> best put them in the schedule and get out at take a look.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t
> even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered
> to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are
> one SM , guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
> troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Nate Burke

I'm old school and still use MRTG with a bunch of custom scripting I 
wrote, but you can substitute in your favorite graphing platform.  I 
graph these parameters and they have worked well for us for a number of 
years.  We monitor every SM in the network.


FSK - Traffic, RSSI, DBM, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
450- Traffic, DBM, SNR, V-H Ratio, Associated to Which AP in Cluster
EPMP - Traffic, MCS, DBM, TX Power, Associated to Which AP in Cluster

On 6/14/2016 10:18 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs?

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have 
not had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them 
in the schedule for Monday and itï¿½s a shame they didnï¿½t call sooner I 
was right by their house twice during the week. I know I should bite 
my tongue but sometimes I canï¿½t help myself.  I think a lot of the 
time people say its hasnï¿½t working in days thinking it will add some 
level of priority to it when in fact it just went off line a few 
minutes ago.


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy 
to see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped 
out.ï¿½ Like if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then 
you know it's trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it 
moved.ï¿½ If it just dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also 
monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ 
You can tell them 'Check with your Kids, because someone has been 
streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days' really is only 2 hours, but 
they want you to think it's worse.


On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450
platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on
ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can log into the AP pull up the Session
Status tab and then scroll through looking at the session counts,
re-registrations, power levels and even see the SMs that are idle.
So if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet
since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one session
count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply
got damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone
support and they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now
that the leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll
through the session counts and find customers that have been up
for 8 years that are now having issues with the tree cover. 568
session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the schedule and
get out at take a look.

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I
canï¿½t even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs
have registered to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was
or if all the extras are one SM , guys doing site surveys or a
combo of both. So how are you guys troubleshooting the ePMP
platform? I feel blind using this stuff.

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

At Powercode?  User since 2008, if you're still interested contact me
offlist and I'll make sure you're taken care of.

Are you using any software at all?  If not, you'll want to pick something
up to do SNMP.  CactiEZ would get things started, but if it were me I'd get
Powercode/VISP/Wispmon/etc to do everything once (one place for billing,
customer equipment, monitoring, etc).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Brandon Yuchasz <li...@gogebicrange.net>
wrote:

> Who did you ask and how loudly?  No powercode here I will have to find a
> different option.
>
>
>
> How does Ubiquiti handle this type of thing? We are 100% cambium in our
> network and only recently started in with the ePMP.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP
>
>
>
> I've asked for this stuff.  For now the signal and session are graphed in
> Powercode.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jun 14, 2016 10:25 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz" <li...@gogebicrange.net>
> wrote:
>
> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform
> I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450
> you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll
> through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and
> even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that
> “hasn’t has internet since Monday” and you see they went idle with only one
> session count and a  -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
> damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and
> they verify no green light.  On the other hand now that the leaves are on
> the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and
> find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having issues
> with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in
> the schedule and get out at take a look.
>
>
>
> So…. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I can’t even
> find if a session is idle.  I can find how many SMs have registered to the
> AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM ,
> guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
> troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Who did you ask and how loudly?  No powercode here I will have to find a 
different option. 

 

How does Ubiquiti handle this type of thing? We are 100% cambium in our network 
and only recently started in with the ePMP. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

 

I've asked for this stuff.  For now the signal and session are graphed in 
Powercode.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 14, 2016 10:25 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz" <li...@gogebicrange.net> wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform I am 
having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you can 
log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through looking 
at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even see the SMs that 
are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that “hasn’t has internet since 
Monday” and you see they went idle with only one session count and a  -62 at 
the time. You can assume the power supply got damaged in the storm Monday 
afternoon. A little on the phone support and they verify no green light.  On 
the other hand now that the leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can 
scroll through the session counts and find customers that have been up for 8 
years that are now having issues with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 
hours. Yep best put them in the schedule and get out at take a look. 

 

So…. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I can’t even find if 
a session is idle.  I can find how many SMs have registered to the AP but no 
specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM , guys doing 
site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys troubleshooting the ePMP 
platform? I feel blind using this stuff. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

Nate,

Can you go into a little more detail on how you monitor those SMs? 

I always get a kick out of the Saturday afternoon calls when they have not
had internet for three days. I generally tell them I have put them in the
schedule for Monday and its a shame they didnt call sooner I was right by
their house twice during the week. I know I should bite my tongue but
sometimes I cant help myself.  I think a lot of the time people say its
hasnt working in days thinking it will add some level of priority to it
when in fact it just went off line a few minutes ago. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

 

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to see
if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like if
they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.

On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform I
am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450 you
can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll through
looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and even see
the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t
has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one
session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and
they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the leaves are on
the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and
find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having issues with
the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in the
schedule and get out at take a look. 

ï¿½

Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t even
find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered to the
AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM ,
guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff. 

ï¿½

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> 

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

For a better answer, Powercode does the bandwidth and such already but here
are the ePMP specific probes:

[image: Inline image 1]

With Airos 5.6+ you can get some good stuff too.  Monitoring all of these
have proved useful.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).ï¿½ Makes it very easy to
> see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.ï¿½ Like
> if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's
> trees.ï¿½ But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.ï¿½ If it just
> dropped offline, then power supply.ï¿½ Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, when
> they say 'No internet for a 2 days'ï¿½ You can tell them 'Check with your
> Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.ï¿½ Or the '2 days'
> really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.
>
> On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform
> I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450
> you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll
> through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and
> even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that
> ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with
> only one session count and aï¿½ -62 at the time. You can assume the power
> supply got damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone
> support and they verify no green light.ï¿½ On the other hand now that the
> leaves are on the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the
> session counts and find customers that have been up for 8 years that are
> now having issues with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep
> best put them in the schedule and get out at take a look.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t
> even find if a session is idle.ï¿½ I can find how many SMs have registered
> to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are
> one SM , guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
> troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Nate Burke

I monitor all SM's directly (FSK,450 and EPMP).  Makes it very easy to 
see if they have changing signal levels, or when they dropped out.  Like 
if they slowly lose signal the entire month of May, then you know it's 
trees.  But if they just lost 20db one day, then it moved.  If it just 
dropped offline, then power supply.  Also monitor the Sub Bandwidth, 
when they say 'No internet for a 2 days'  You can tell them 'Check with 
your Kids, because someone has been streaming non stop'.  Or the '2 
days' really is only 2 hours, but they want you to think it's worse.


On 6/14/2016 9:25 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 
platform I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. 
In FSK and 450 you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab 
and then scroll through looking at the session counts, 
re-registrations, power levels and even see the SMs that are idle. So 
if you are looking up a customer that ï¿½hasnï¿½t has internet since 
Mondayï¿½ and you see they went idle with only one session count and a 
-62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got damaged in the 
storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and they verify 
no green light.  On the other hand now that the leaves are on the 
trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and 
find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having 
issues with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best 
put them in the schedule and get out at take a look.


Soï¿½. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I canï¿½t 
even find if a session is idle. I can find how many SMs have 
registered to the AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all 
the extras are one SM , guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So 
how are you guys troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using 
this stuff.


Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-14 Thread Josh Luthman

I've asked for this stuff.  For now the signal and session are graphed in
Powercode.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 14, 2016 10:25 AM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:

> Since I came from a FSK background and then started in on the 450 platform
> I am having a few issues troubleshooting customers on ePMP. In FSK and 450
> you can log into the AP pull up the Session Status tab and then scroll
> through looking at the session counts, re-registrations, power levels and
> even see the SMs that are idle. So if you are looking up a customer that
> “hasn’t has internet since Monday” and you see they went idle with only one
> session count and a  -62 at the time. You can assume the power supply got
> damaged in the storm Monday afternoon. A little on the phone support and
> they verify no green light.  On the other hand now that the leaves are on
> the trees and nice and thick we can scroll through the session counts and
> find customers that have been up for 8 years that are now having issues
> with the tree cover. 568 session counts in 24 hours. Yep best put them in
> the schedule and get out at take a look.
>
>
>
> So…. Where the heck do I find similar information in ePMP. I can’t even
> find if a session is idle.  I can find how many SMs have registered to the
> AP but no specifics about which SM it was or if all the extras are one SM ,
> guys doing site surveys or a combo of both. So how are you guys
> troubleshooting the ePMP platform? I feel blind using this stuff.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

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