BUS: Confirmation of address change

[Ed Murphy]

I hereby confirm that I'm changing my primary address to a
zoho.com account.

-Murphy

BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Voting for More Elections

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:12 AM, omd  wrote:

I initiate an Agoran decision to initiate the new officeholder for each listed
office.  For each decision, the valid options are all players, and I am the
vote collector.  (As I noted previously, although the nomination period of an
election is currently undefined, I have made the assumption it lasts no longer
than seven days, so these decisions can now be initiated.)


Oh, and I do the same for Registrar, current holder Henri.


I also endorse G. in this election.

BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Voting for More Elections

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


I initiate an Agoran decision to initiate the new officeholder for each listed
office.  For each decision, the valid options are all players, and I am the
vote collector.  (As I noted previously, although the nomination period of an
election is currently undefined, I have made the assumption it lasts no longer
than seven days, so these decisions can now be initiated.)

Successful election requires "explicit or reasonably implied consent" of the
new holder.  I don't think anyone other than the current holder has recently
consented to hold any of these offices (except scshunt - Scorekeepor), but feel
free to do so until these elections are resolved.

Assessor
 Current holder: scshunt
Herald
 Current holder: scshunt
IADoP
 Current holder: omd
Promotor
 Current holder: scshunt
Rulekeepor
 Current holder: omd
Scorekeepor
 Current holder: vacant (should be scshunt, but IADoP error ratified)


For each of these, I endorse G..

-Murphy

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Corrected Distribution of Proposals 7643-7658

[Ed Murphy]

7643   Henri1   Mandatory Identification

AGAINST

7644   Yally1   Make the Birthday Holiday line up with

FOR

7645   omd  2   Election fix

FOR

7646   omd  2   Latin fix

PRESENT

7647   omd  3   formatting/misc fixes

FOR

7648   omd  1   This is silly

FOR

7649   scshunt  2   I always thought these already ratifie

FOR

7650   scshunt  2   An Orderly Transition

PRESENT

7651   scshunt  3   Sillier Scams

PRESENT

7652   scshunt  3   Deputy Cleanup

PRESENT

7653   scshunt  3   Chamber Cleanup

FOR

7654   scshunt  3   Write-in Votes in Longer Elections

FOR

7655   scshunt  1   Co-author Points

FOR

7656   scshunt  1   Clairty

PRESENT

7657   scshunt1.5   You deserve it

FOR

7658   scshunt  2   Election Danger

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJS 3411-3412 assigned to Murphy

[Ed Murphy]

CFJ:  Dying while a player is a regulated action.

Arguments:

If I die, and can no longer communicate, then I would no longer
be a person (R869), thus modifying information that the Registrar
is required to report (R2139), thus making the action regulated
(R2125).


Are you making any plans that we should know about? Also, I have
insufficient information about mediums, brain uploading, etc. to
know whether death necessarily implies "can no longer communicate",
and also I don't know of any players who have allegedly died while
players. DISMISS.


CFJ:  A player CANNOT die.

Arguments:

As per second paragraph of R2125; the rules do not specify a
method through which dying CAN be performed.  Only relevant if
previous CFJ finds that dying is regulated.


Arguments by OscarMeyr:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Benjamin Schultz
 wrote:

Gratuitous non-Player arguments:

1.  If the Rules don't say it, it's not regulated.  Well, it may be
regulated, but if there are no regulations to regulate the regulated action,
CANNOT does not apply.

2.  Not every word needs to be defined in the Rules.

3.  Don't give me that!  Your kind makes my blood boil.
Oh, sorry, that was abuse.  You want 12A, next door.
(Stupid git.)


Arguments by G.:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

The thing is, R2125 says something is regulated as long as it would
require a recordkeepor to change a record.  This clause (too broad, I
think) means that external events that happen to change records are
regulated.  R2125 also says explicitly that such regulated actions CAN
*only* be done as the rules describe (therefore can't be done any
other way).

It's perfectly reasonable in "real law", for a jurisdiction to not
recognize an actual event (an actual death) until a "legal" death
is recorded (e.g. a missing persons case).  If there's no means of
recording said death, the legal fiction would persist.


Also DISMISS.

IMO R2125 should be amended to explicitly address how it deals with
matters of external reality such as this one. One that's more likely to
actually come up in practice: what if a forum malfunctions, either
intentionally (as part of a scam) or unintentionally?

BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Speaker Election

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Speaker.  For this
decision, the vote collector is the IADoP; as with all decisions, the
eligible voters are the active players at the time of initiation; and
the options (in order of nomination) are:

omd
scshunt
G.


ENDORSE G.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7641-7642

[Ed Murphy]

7641   scshunt 2   Relative Months

FOR

7642   Fool3   On breaking the game

AGAINT

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7625-7626

[Ed Murphy]

7625   Shredder1   OPostmodern Poetry

PRESENT

7626   omd   1.5   OChampion fix

PRESENT

BUS: Posture (possibly also unneeded)

[Ed Murphy]

I sit.

BUS: Doubt this is needed, but

[Ed Murphy]

I register.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7617

[Ed Murphy]

7617  G.  2   O   A Complex Game 2

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7615-7616

[Ed Murphy]

7615  Henri   1   O   The Initiation of the Great Reset...

PRESENT

7616  G.  2   O   Mostly Simple Judging v2.3

FOR

BUS: Getting back, Jack

[Ed Murphy]

If I'm not a player, I register.
If I'm not active, I become active.
I object to any/all intents to deregister/deactivate me.
I vote PRESENT on all decisions currently in their voting periods.

Regarding ais523's proposal to change quorum, I suggest retaining a
minimum of "5 or the number of active players, whichever is less".

BUS: HONK

[Ed Murphy]

HONK

BUS: Proposal: Obvious rule patch

[Ed Murphy]

Proposal:  Obvious rule patch
(AI = 2, co-authors = Bayushi and ais523)

Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by replacing part (e) of the section on
GUILTY with this text:

   (e) the defendant could have reasonably avoided committing the
   breach without thereby committing a different breach of
   equal or greater severity.

[Legislates the judgement of CFJ 3398.  As for intentionally setting up
such a situation, if the defendant could have reasonably have avoided
setting it up, then the judge should ding them on that point.]

Re: BUS: [IADoP] October Elections

[Ed Murphy]

I initiate elections for Registrar, nominating omd.


I nominate myself.  And review the ruleset:  okay, Rules 2401 and 2417,
otherwise just the usual stuff.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7601-7609

[Ed Murphy]

7601  Ienpw III   1   O   0   I0   -  

FOR

7602  OscarMeyr   1   O   0   I0   -  THE INSANE REPEALS, PART A

FOR

7603  OscarMeyr   1   O   0   I0   -  THE INSANE REPEALS, PART B

AGAINST

7604  G.  1   O   0   I0   -  Come back woggle!

FOR (though this suggests a new class of optional officer tasks: bonus
if performed, no penalty if not)

7605  G.  1   O   0   I0   -  Clearing the Map

PRESENT

7606  G.  3   O   0   I0   -  Cruise Control

FOR

7607  OscarMeyr   3   O   0   I0   -  Reenacting Rules

FOR

7608  omd 3   O   0   I0   Best   Sequester

AGAINST

7609  G.  1.7 O   0   I0   -  Complex Winning

FOR

Re: BUS: No boom *today*.

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


With notice, I intend to destroy my promise "Power of attorney".


I do so.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7590-7599

[Ed Murphy]

7590  Walker1   O  30   I1   -  AWJ

PRESENT

7591  scshunt   3   O  20   I1   Best   Conflicts of Interest

FOR

7592  scshunt   1   O  40   I1   Best   Okinawhat?

FOR

7593  scshunt   2   O  80   I1   Best   You Don't Have To Go Home

PRESENT

7594  scshunt   3   O  80   I1   Best   Financial Reorganization

PRESENT

7595  scshunt   2   O  40   I1   Best   Better Interest

PRESENT (6942 is typoed as 2942, but that can be fixed later)

7596  omd   3   O   0   I0   Best   a new right

FOR

7597  omd   1   O   0   I0   Best   Flair

PRESENT

7598  omd   2   O   0   I0   Best   Shorter auctions

PRESENT

7599  Walker1   O  40   I0   -  Helpfulness

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assumed Promotor] Jumping the Queue with Proposals 7587-7589

[Ed Murphy]

7587  1.5  0 O G. *Repeal Initial Posture

PRESENT

7588  20 O G. *No Speaker Waste

PRESENT

7589  30 O G. *Unpromising

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7595, 7600

[Ed Murphy]

7595  scshunt   2   O  40   I0   Best   Better Interest

PRESENT

7600  scshunt   3   O 120   I0   Best   Handshake Deals are Enough

FOR

BUS: No boom *today*.

[Ed Murphy]

With notice, I intend to destroy my promise "Power of attorney".  I
apologize for starting a trend, and pass the ammo.  And sit.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7526-7529

[Ed Murphy]

7526 20 O woggle  Yak Cleanup Grammar Fixes

FOR

7527 10 O Murphy  Within measurable distance of its end

FOR

7528 2   50 O omd Voting auctions

PRESENT

7529 20 O omd The Wisconsin Line-Item Veto

FOR

Re: BUS: Power of attorney

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I create the following promise and transfer it to G.:
   * Text: I act as specified by the casher in the same message
   as the cashing.
   * Title: Murphy 20130703 Trust Fund
   * Condition to cash: The casher is a player.
   * Condition to not be destroyed when cashed: The casher is a player.
   * Condition for author to destroy: The promise has existed for at
   last two weeks.


I destroy this promise.

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3367 assigned to Murphy

[Ed Murphy]

Roujo wrote:


Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3367

=  Criminal Case 3367  =

 I violated the rule enacted by Proposal 7490 by discussing my
 vote on Proposal 7491 when listing all votes in its resolution.



Caller: omd
Barred: omd

Judge:  Murphy
Judgement:



History:

Called by omd:  08 Jul 2013 21:50:59 GMT
Assigned to Murphy: (as of this message)



Caller's Arguments:

Aside from my being required to do so, I claim that this is
a violation of my right to participate in the fora.



Caller's Evidence:

Players SHALL NOT discuss eir votes on proposals in the Star
   Chamber. Doing so is the Class-4 Crime of Contempt for the
   Contempted.




NOT GUILTY per R1504(e).  Violating the requirement to report votes
(R208, Power 3) would be more severe than violating the requirement
not to discuss votes (R2414, Power 1), and precedent is that it's
unreasonable to require an officer to resign in order to escape
such a conflict.  (The role of R101 is less clear, and not needed
anyway to derive this verdict.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My First CFJ

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Proposal:  Within measurable distance of its end

Amend the Rule enacted by Proposal 7490 (Funcentives) by replacing:

   votes on proposals in the Star Chamber.

with:

   votes on a proposal in the Star Chamber during that proposal's
   voting period.


I retract the above-quoted proposal.

Proposal:  Within measurable distance of its end

Amend the Rule enacted by Proposal 7490 (Funcentives) by replacing:

  votes on proposals in the Star Chamber.

with:

  votes on a proposal in the Star Chamber before the end of that
  proposal's voting period.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My First CFJ

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


Amend the Rule enacted by Proposal 7490 (Funcentives) by replacing:

   Players SHALL NOT discuss eir votes

with:

   Players SHALL NOT discuss their votes

--

By the way, that rule is quite broken as it prohibits discussing votes
even after the end of the voting period.


Proposal:  Within measurable distance of its end

Amend the Rule enacted by Proposal 7490 (Funcentives) by replacing:

  votes on proposals in the Star Chamber.

with:

  votes on a proposal in the Star Chamber during that proposal's
  voting period.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7516-7525

[Ed Murphy]

7516 1.5  0 O G.  Badges Badges Badges Badges

FOR

7517 10 O Lindar  (untitled)

AGAINST.  The official flavour of Agora should be MUSHROOM MUSHROOM.

7518 1.5  0 O Yally   Jumping Posture

PRESENT

7519 30 O omd, etc.   fixed fixed Gerontocracy fix

PRESENT

7520 30 O omd Grammar fixes

FOR

7521 30 O FoolThe Office of Harold

FOR

7522 20 O Lindar  Consistent inconsistency

FOR

7523 30 O omd remove dangling judicial declaration
..reference

FOR

7524 1   10 O scshunt SLAjflksagksjhyroinwhyfj

PRESENT

7525 20 O omd Public Disagreements

AGAINST

BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor Elections

[Ed Murphy]

scshunt wrote:


I hereby initiate the Agoran Decisions to select the holders of the
offices of Ambassador-At-Large and Promotor. The vote collector is the
IADoP; the eligible voters are the active first-class players.

The candidates for Ambassador-At-Large are Walker and Roujo.


I endorse Roujo.


The candidates for Promotor are omd and Machiavelli.


I endorse omd.

BUS: Judgement, CFJ 3355

[Ed Murphy]

3355:  NOT GUILTY

To my knowledge, ais523 only used this nickname in a-d in messages
pertaining to Agora XX.  It was reasonably simple to distinguish
which messages in a-d pertained to Agora XX, and within that context,
the nickname issue was not significantly more confusing compared to
everything else that was going on there.

BUS: Power of attorney

[Ed Murphy]

I create the following promise and transfer it to G.:
  * Text: I act as specified by the casher in the same message
  as the cashing.
  * Title: Murphy 20130703 Trust Fund
  * Condition to cash: The casher is a player.
  * Condition to not be destroyed when cashed: The casher is a player.
  * Condition for author to destroy: The promise has existed for at
  last two weeks.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7499-7502

[Ed Murphy]

7499 1   10 O   scshunt Ribbon power fix

PRESENT

7500 10 O D FoolSome Nomics end normally.

FOR

7501 30 O D scshunt Star Quorum Cleanups

AGAINST

7502 30 O D FoolStar Quorum Cleanups bis.

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7482-7498

[Ed Murphy]

7482 10 O D Murphy  Lateral transfer

FOR

7483 1   20 O   scshunt Scoping It Out

FOR

7484 1   20 O   Roujo   Scoping It All

AGAINST (already true by lack of ambiguity)

7485 2   40 O   omd Such an ugly word

FOR

7486 20 O D scshunt Clearing Up

FOR

7487 3   10 O   scshunt Let Parties Vote

FOR

7489 1.5  0 O D scshunt A Very Gracious Thankyou

FOR

7490 1   25 S   scshunt Funcentives

MICROSAURIAN

7491 25 S   scshunt Yakity

CARNATIONIST

7492 2   50 O   Walker  Good Judgement

endorse CotC

7493 10 O D FoolComplete Rubbish

AGAINST

7494 30 O D FoolSURR

AGAINST

7495 20 O D FoolWho's Surr?

AGAINST

7496 10 O D FoolSURRENDER DOROTHY

AGAINST * 3, FOR * 1

7497 10 O D omd (untitled)

FOR (for reference, this is the Trading Cards rule)

7498 10 O D omd one Renaissance is enough

FOR

BUS: Judgement, CFJ 3343

[Ed Murphy]

3343:  FALSE

If any party's constitution actually authorized party members to act on
its behalf, then such an inference would be valid.  However, no party's
constitution currently does so.

Re: BUS: Sure, why not

[Ed Murphy]

Machiavelli wrote:


I join UNDEAD.


CoE:  Over my dead body you do!

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Sean Hunt  wrote:

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM, omd  wrote:

All stasis timers are at their default value of 0.


CoE: Murphy's was not.


Admitted.  Correction: it was 7 days at 16 Jun 2013 09:06:07 - and
counting down since then; it is now 0.


I become active.

Re: BUS: Electioneering

[Ed Murphy]

Walker wrote:


On 23 Jun 2013, at 21:57, Sean Hunt  wrote:


I initiate elections for Comic Book Guy, Assessor, and Herald.


I nominate Murphy.


I accept Comic Book Guy and Herald.

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3329a initiated by scshunt, pending assignement

[Ed Murphy]

Roujo wrote:


Yeah, I won't assign this just quite yet because I just want to get
this Docket report out of the door first. =P

Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3329a

  Appeal 3329a  

History:

Appeal initiated:   23 Jun 2013 18:10:09 GMT



Appellant scshunt's Arguments:

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

I intend (with 2 support) to make this case Notable, suggesting Rule
1504 and an annotation along the lines of "GUILTY can be appropriate
for inaction during a time period, even if the case was initiated
while that time period was still in progress".


I object and appeal, given that the Judge provided no reasoning for
why this is so.




CoE:  scshunt's above-quoted message was sent to a-d.

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3329 assigned to Walker, judged GUILTY, FINE, 1 VC.

[Ed Murphy]

Roujo wrote:


Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3329

=  Criminal Case 3329  =

 scshunt has failed to submit an IADoP's report for this week,
 and in doing so has violated Rule 2143.



Caller: scshunt

Judge:  Walker
Judgement:  GUILTY/FINE



History:

Called by scshunt:  26 May 2013 22:47:15 GMT
Defendant scshunt informed: 26 May 2013 22:47:15 GMT
Assigned to Henri:  27 May 2013 22:35:18 GMT
Henri recused:  09 Jun 2013 18:20:49 GMT
Assigned to Wes:09 Jun 2013 18:23:33 GMT
Wes recused:22 Jun 2013 18:59:07 GMT
Assigned to Walker: 22 Jun 2013 18:59:07 GMT
Judged GUILTY/FINE by Walker:   22 Jun 2013 20:45:38 GMT



Caller's Arguments:

(I am away from home and won't get to do reports until after midnight UTC)



Judge Walker's Arguments:

GUILTY, FINE, 1 VC.




I intend (with 2 support) to make this case Notable, suggesting Rule
1504 and an annotation along the lines of "GUILTY can be appropriate
for inaction during a time period, even if the case was initiated
while that time period was still in progress".

BUS: Proposal: Lateral transfer

[Ed Murphy]

Proposal: Lateral transfer

Amend Rule 2138 (The Interstellar Associate Director of Personnel) by
changing "Interstellar" to "Interdimensional" in its text and title.

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3327 judged TRUE by woggle

[Ed Murphy]

Roujo wrote:


Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3327

==  CFJ 3327  ==

 It was POSSIBLE for me to cash 'ZipZop Series G-002' when I
 attempted to do so.



Caller: omd

Judge:  woggle
Judgement:  TRUE



History:

Called by omd:  21 May 2013 01:13:52 GMT
Assigned to Ienpw III:  27 May 2013 22:33:11 GMT
Ienpw III recused:  09 Jun 2013 18:20:49 GMT
Assigned to woggle: 09 Jun 2013 18:21:30 GMT
Judged TRUE by woggle:  15 Jun 2013 23:02:21 GMT




I intend (with 2 support) to request reconsideration, suggesting
REMAND so we can get some arguments and/or evidence.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor]

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

Quorum6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Voters5 5 5 5 5 4 5


CoE: At the very least, Machiavelli was inactive at the time of
distribution.  Quorum was 5.


Denied.  Machiavelli was inactive, but Ienpw III registered at
about the same time.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7435-36

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

CoE, accepted:  Proposal 7436 had 5 votes during the normal voting
period, so it was extended and scshunt's votes were valid.


CoE: Quorum was 5, as per my previous CoE.


Rejected, as per my response to said CoE.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7435-36

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

omd's CoE "quorum was 5" and G.'s CoE regarding missed votes are
rejected as inaccurate.


CoE on all purported resolutions in the last hour: As far as I can
tell, the timeline is as follows:

12 May 2013 03:12:31  Registrar's report self-ratifies, deregistering scshunt
13 May 2013 00:33:12  7426-7434 distributed
13 May 2013 00:57:54  7435-7436 distributed
13 May 2013 14:41:08  IADoP's report self-ratifies, registering scshunt

Therefore, scshunt was not an eligible voter and quorum was indeed 5.


Rejected.  My recent ratification-without-objection
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-June/031344.html
papered over this papering-over.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7435-36

[Ed Murphy]

scshunt wrote:


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Sean Hunt  wrote:

CoE: Since quorum was 6, Proposal 7435 had only 5 votes, so the voting
period was extended and my votes were valid. Hence it was adopted.


Rejected.  Proposal 7435 had 6 votes.

CoE, accepted:  Proposal 7436 had 5 votes during the normal voting
period, so it was extended and scshunt's votes were valid.

I hereby resolve the decision on Proposal 7436 as follows:

omd  4A
Roujo4P
scshunt  4F
Walker   4F
Wes  4F
woggle   4P

AI3
VI3
F/A 12/4

Quorum6
Voters6

Adopted.  Text of proposal:

Proposal 7436 (AI=3, Ordinary) by scshunt
De-persist commitments

Amend Rule 2337 (Promises) by replacing "limited to persons" with
"limited to players."

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7435-36

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Voting results for Proposals 7435-36:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
   following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
   Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

x7435  2.0  scshunt Numericity
!7436  3.0  scshunt De-persist commitments

 7435  7436

Machiavel4F
omd  4A4A
Roujo4P4P
scshunt  4F4F
Walker   4A4F
Wes  4A4F
woggle   4P4P

AI2 3
VI0.6+  3
F/A  8/12 12/4

Quorum7 7
Voters7 6

[scshunt's votes are only effective if the voting periods were
extended.  If they weren't, then the proposals were rejected due
to insufficient support, (4/12 = 0.3+ vs 2) and (8/4 = 2 vs 3)
respectively.]


Again, no self-ratification, as omd's CoE "quorum was 5" is still
outstanding.

CoE, accepted:  Quorum on each of these was 6.  (Active players were
the same as for 7426-34.)

omd's CoE "quorum was 5" and G.'s CoE regarding missed votes are
rejected as inaccurate.

I resolve these decisions as follows:
  * Quorum was 6
  * scshunt's votes were inactive
  * Proposals were rejected due to insufficient support, (4/12 = 0.3+
  vs 2) and (8/4 = 2 vs 3) respectively
  * Other details were as noted above and below


Text of adopted proposals:


(none)

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Voting results for Proposals 7426-34:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
   following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
   Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

*7426  1.0  omd Non-reporting Office
x7427  1.0  omd Dishonor Rolls
*7428  1.0  omd Agoran arms in a rule
x7429  1.0  omd Protection Racket
*7430  1.0  omd The Envoy
x7431  2.0  Walker
x7432  1.0  Walker  Downsizing
*7433  3.0  Walker  Rule Changes Fix
x7434  3.0  omd Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven

 7426  7427  7428  7429  7430  7431  7432  7433  7434

ais523   4A4A4A4A4A4P4A4F4P
Machiavel4F4A  4A4F4F4A
omd  7F7F7F7F7F7A7F7P7F
Roujo4A4A4A4A4P4P4A4P4P
Walker   4F4A4F4A4F4F4F4F4P
Wes  4F4A4A4A4F4A4A4F4A
woggle   4A4A4F4A4A4A4A4P4P

AI1 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 3
VI1.25  0.35  1.5+  0.2+  1.8+  0.2+  0.9+ *U*0.8+
F/A 15/12  7/20 19/12  7/24 15/8   4/19 15/16 16/0   7/8

Quorum7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Voters6 6 7 7 6 7 7 7 7


None of these have self-ratified, as omd's CoE "quorum was 5" is
still outstanding.

CoE, accepted:  Quorum on each of these was 6.  (There were 16 active
players at the start of the voting periods:  ais523, ehird, FSX, G.,
Henri, Machiavelli, Max Schutz, Murphy, omd, Roujo, scshunt, Tomas,
Walker, Wes, woggle, Yally.)

All other outstanding CoEs on these are denied.  Specifically:

  * scshunt's "No it doesn't" was insufficiently specific.
  * omd's "quorum was 5" was incorrect.
  * My and G.'s claims of missed votes were incorrect (the alleged
  votes missed the end of the normal voting period, and no
  voting periods were extended due to lack of quorum).

I resolve these decisions as quoted above and below, except that
quorum on each decision was 6.


Text of adopted proposals:


}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{

Proposal 7426 (AI=1, Ordinary) by omd, pikhq
Non-reporting Office

Create a rule with the following text:
{
There exists an office of Governmental Waste. This office shall have no
duties, shall make no reports, and shall exist as the sole result of
governmental waste.
}

}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{

Proposal 7428 (AI=1, Ordinary) by omd, Zefram, GreyKnight
Agoran arms in a rule

Enact a rule titled "Agoran Arms" with text

   The escutcheon of Agora is defined by the following blazon:
   Tierced palewise sable, argent, and sable, charged with a quill
   and an axe in saltire, proper, and in the chief a capital letter
   A, gules.

}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{

Proposal 7430 (AI=1, Ordinary) by omd, Zefram
The Envoy

Create a rule titled "The Envoy" with the text:

  The person who is most responsible for advertising Agora and
  soliciting new Players, in the opinion of the Speaker, shall be
  known as the Envoy.  Any changes in the identity of the Envoy
  shall take effect when announced publicly by the Speaker.

  The Envoy shall advertise Agora on a regular basis in any
  non-Agoran public forums e deems appropriate.

}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{

Proposal 7433 (AI=3, Ordinary) by Walker
Rule Changes Fix

Amend Rule 105 by replacing

   (a) enact a rule.  The new rule has power equal to the minimum
   of the power specified by the enacting instrument,
   defaulting to one if the enacting instrument does not
   specify, and the maximum power permitted by other rules.
   The enacting instrument may specify a title for the new
   rule, which if present shall prevail.  The ID number of the
   new rule cannot be specified by the enacting instrument; any
   attempt to so specify is null and void.

with:

   (a) enact a rule.  The new rule has power equal to the minimum
   of the power specified by the enacting instrument,
   defaulting to one if the enacting instrument does not
   specify or if it specifies a power less than one, and the
   maximum power permitted by other rules.  The enacting
   instrument may specify a title for the new rule, which if
   present shall prevail.  The ID number of the new rule cannot
   be specified by the enacting instrument; any attempt to so
   specify is null and void.

BUS: Recusals

[Ed Murphy]

I recuse Ienpw III from CFJ 3327.
I recuse Henri from CFJ 3329.

BUS: Closing out 3318a

[Ed Murphy]

I don't think one out of three panelists constitutes a "majority
opinion" (Rules 2341 and 2342).  I cause the panel in 3318a to
judge it REMAND without prejudice.

BUS: Proposal: Not that large

[Ed Murphy]

Proposal: Not that large
(AI = 2)

Amend Rule 2378 (Court Protector) by replacing this text:

  A CFJ may be submitted to the Ambassador-At-Large.

with this text:

  When initiating a judicial case, a person CAN submit it to the
  Ambassador-At-Large by clearly announcing that e does so.

and by replacing each instance of "CFJ" with "case".

Re: BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I intend, without objection, to ratify the following <<< >>>-delimited
text:

<<<
scshunt registered on or about Mon Apr 1 18:04:26 UTC 2013, and has been
continuously registered from that time to the time the first intent to
ratify this text was published.

Machiavelli became inactive on or about Mon May 13 22:38:10 UTC 2013,
and has been continuously inactive from that time to the time the first
intent to ratify this text was published.
 >>>


I do so.  (Again, without reading ahead, I'm assuming that no one
actually objected to this.)

Re: BUS: Inconstant vigilance

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I intend, without objection, to ratify the following:

As of 12 May 2013 00:00:00 UTC, the Police Vigilance Number (PVN) was 0
and all players were Virtuous.

(I believe this to be correct anyway, given the lack of CFJs containing
the text "taunt" or "naught" since the adoption of the PVN and Virtue.)


Inconstant indeed.  I once again intend, without objection, to ratify
the above-quoted claim.


I do so.  (Ineffective if anyone did object; I'm just starting to catch
up on Agora mail again.)

BUS: Bah, forgot this step

[Ed Murphy]

I change all sitting players to standing.

BUS: Judgement and opinion

[Ed Murphy]

3330:  FALSE.  A substantially similar question was asked and
answered in CFJ 2361, and I'm not aware of anything in the
current rules that would invalidate that precedent.

3320a:  REMAND without prejudice.

Re: BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

CoE:  7426, 7427, and 7430 failed quorum.  (Not yet admitted, to give
others a chance to double-check that 7 was the correct minimum.)


CoE on all recent attempts to resolve 7426-36: There were 15 active
first-class players at the time of their initiation; quorum was 5.


I double-checked the Assessor DB and found that the problem was partly
there, and partly with the Registrar's report.

The Registrar's report never recorded scshunt registering on Apr 1:
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2013-April/009991.html

It also inconsistently recorded Machiavelli becoming inactive on May 13
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-May/031141.html
(recent-events updated but main list was not), but that was shortly
after the start of these voting periods.

I intend, without objection, to ratify the following <<< >>>-delimited
text:

<<<
scshunt registered on or about Mon Apr 1 18:04:26 UTC 2013, and has been
continuously registered from that time to the time the first intent to
ratify this text was published.

Machiavelli became inactive on or about Mon May 13 22:38:10 UTC 2013,
and has been continuously inactive from that time to the time the first
intent to ratify this text was published.
>>>

Meanwhile, the Assessor DB keeps a history of events that affected
quorum (so it can calculate how many players there were at the start
of a voting period), but there were a couple glitches related to the
deregistration of inactive players.  I fixed the causes and the most
recent symptoms.

BUS: Recusal

[Ed Murphy]

I recuse Tomas from CFJ 3322.

BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I wrote:


Voting results for Proposals 7426-34:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
   following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
   Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

*7426  1.0  omd Non-reporting Office
x7427  1.0  omd Dishonor Rolls
*7428  1.0  omd Agoran arms in a rule
x7429  1.0  omd Protection Racket
*7430  1.0  omd The Envoy
x7431  2.0  Walker
x7432  1.0  Walker  Downsizing
*7433  3.0  Walker  Rule Changes Fix
x7434  3.0  omd Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven

 7426  7427  7428  7429  7430  7431  7432  7433  7434

ais523   4A4A4A4A4A4P4A4F4P
Machiavel4F4A  4A4F4F4A
omd  7F7F7F7F7F7A7F7P7F
Roujo4A4A4A4A4P4P4A4P4P
Walker   4F4A4F4A4F4F4F4F4P
Wes  4F4A4A4A4F4A4A4F4A
woggle   4A4A4F4A4A4A4A4P4P

AI1 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 3
VI1.25  0.35  1.5+  0.2+  1.8+  0.2+  0.9+ *U*0.8+
F/A 15/12  7/20 19/12  7/24 15/8   4/19 15/16 16/0   7/8

Quorum7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Voters6 6 7 7 6 7 7 7 7


CoE:  7426, 7427, and 7430 failed quorum.  (Not yet admitted, to give
others a chance to double-check that 7 was the correct minimum.)


Denied.  Assuming that 7 is the correct minimum, the voting periods were
extended, and scshunt's votes on those proposals were effective:
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-May/031175.html

CoE:  7426, 7427, and 7430 did not list scshunt's votes.  (Again, not
yet admitted, to allow double-checking.)

BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Voting results for Proposals 7426-34:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
   following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
   Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

*7426  1.0  omd Non-reporting Office
x7427  1.0  omd Dishonor Rolls
*7428  1.0  omd Agoran arms in a rule
x7429  1.0  omd Protection Racket
*7430  1.0  omd The Envoy
x7431  2.0  Walker
x7432  1.0  Walker  Downsizing
*7433  3.0  Walker  Rule Changes Fix
x7434  3.0  omd Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven

 7426  7427  7428  7429  7430  7431  7432  7433  7434

ais523   4A4A4A4A4A4P4A4F4P
Machiavel4F4A  4A4F4F4A
omd  7F7F7F7F7F7A7F7P7F
Roujo4A4A4A4A4P4P4A4P4P
Walker   4F4A4F4A4F4F4F4F4P
Wes  4F4A4A4A4F4A4A4F4A
woggle   4A4A4F4A4A4A4A4P4P

AI1 1 1 1 1 2 1 3 3
VI1.25  0.35  1.5+  0.2+  1.8+  0.2+  0.9+ *U*0.8+
F/A 15/12  7/20 19/12  7/24 15/8   4/19 15/16 16/0   7/8

Quorum7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Voters6 6 7 7 6 7 7 7 7


CoE:  7426, 7427, and 7430 failed quorum.  (Not yet admitted, to give
others a chance to double-check that 7 was the correct minimum.)

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7418-25

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

woggle   4F4A   A+3P   4P4F4P4F4P


CoE: woggle voted PRESENT on 7419.


Admitted, corrected in database.

I resolve the decision on 7419 as follows (same as before except for
this correction):

  Machiavelli, omd, Roujo each voted 4F
  ehird, Wes each voted 4A
  Murphy, Walker, woggle each voted 4P

  Quorum met (8 vs 6)

  Rejected due to insufficient support (VI 12/8 = 1.5 vs AI 3)

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7437-7443

[Ed Murphy]

7437 1   Roujo(untitled)

FOR

7438 2   ais523   Fix adoption index tracking

FOR

7439 1   woggle   he -> e

FOR

7440 1   woggle   When ., -> When ,

FOR

7441 1   Walker   (untitled)

FOR

7442 1   scshunt  No Recordkeeping Burden

AGAINST (missing "create a rule with this text" type intro)

7443 1   Machiavelli  Promises do an acceptable job of handling this,
..but a specialized mechanism would probably be
..more convenient and less error-prone

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7444-7452

[Ed Murphy]

7444 3   omd  Make implicit votes sensitive to voting limit
..increases

PRESENT (I'm starting to delay entry of "*1000" type votes until
the end, and would do so across the board if this is adopted)

7445 3   omd  relative dimension in sanity

FOR

7446 3   omd  Chamber definition shuffle for consistency

FOR

7447 3   omd  Conditional votes should be Power-3

FOR

7448 1   omd  ceremonial shilling

FOR

7449 3   Walker   Rule Decisions Re Decisions are for Decision
..Rules

FOR

7450 1   Machiavelli  Igora

FOR

7451 3   omd  Fix messy statements differently

FOR

7452 3   omd  secret votes redux

FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Assessor] Voting Results for Proposals 7426-36

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


I deputise for the Assessor to publish the following:

Voting results for Proposals 7426-36:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

*7426  1.0  Non-reporting Office
x7427  1.0  Dishonor Rolls
*7428  1.0  Agoran arms in a rule
x7429  1.0  Protection Racket
*7430  1.0  The Envoy
x7431  2.0  (untitled)
x7432  1.0  Downsizing
*7433  3.0  Rule Changes Fix
x7434  3.0  Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven
x7435  2.0  Numericity
x7436  3.0  De-persist commitments

   7426   7427  7428   7429  7430  7431  7432   7433  7434
7435  7436

ais5234A 4A4A 4A4A4P4A 4F4P
Machiavelli4F 4A  4F4F 4F4A4F
omd   7F 7F7F 7F7F7A7F 7P7F5A5A
Roujo 4A 4A4A 4A4P4P4A 4P4P4P4P
Walker4F 4A4F 4A4F4F4F 4F4P4A4F
Wes   4F 4A4A 4A4F4A4A 4F4A4A4F
woggle4A 4A4F 4A4A4A4A 4P4P4P4P

7431 woggle endorse omd -> AGAINST
7433-7435 woggle endorse Murphy -> PRESENT

AI1  1 1  1 1 2 1  3 3 2 3
VI1.2+   0.3+  1.60.3   1.9   0.5+  0.9+   *U*   0.9   0.3+  1.6
F/A   15/12  7/20  19/12  7/24  15/8  8/15  15/16  16/0  7/8   4/13  8/5

Quorum5  5 5  5 5 5 5  5 5 5 5
Voters6  6 7  7 6 7 7  7 7 6 5


CoEs:

Machiavelli voted AGAINST 7431:
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-May/031143.html

omd only re-voted on 7426-34, and only after eir VVLOP was increased
to 5 (not after it was increased to 7):
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-May/031158.html

(These do not affect any overall results.)

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Clerk's Docket



Posture (Rule 1871) of active players


Additional CoE, accepted:  ais523 is inactive.

BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Clerk's Docket


CoE, accepted:  FSX and Tomas are inactive.  Arkady, moonroof, and
Phlogistique are deregistered.  (All corrected in draft.)

Re: BUS: Inconstant vigilance

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I intend, without objection, to ratify the following:

As of 12 May 2013 00:00:00 UTC, the Police Vigilance Number (PVN) was 0
and all players were Virtuous.

(I believe this to be correct anyway, given the lack of CFJs containing
the text "taunt" or "naught" since the adoption of the PVN and Virtue.)


Inconstant indeed.  I once again intend, without objection, to ratify
the above-quoted claim.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

[Ed Murphy]

7418 2   omd   Higher order

PRESENT

7419 3   omd   Clear the books

PRESENT

7420 3   omd   We don't need to be that idiosyncratic un-derp
.. version

PRESENT

7421 3   G.What you WILL

PRESENT

7422 3   omd   Interpretation security

AGAINST (would break e.g. "as soon as possible", which is currently
defined somewhat differently from ordinary language at Power 2)

7423 3   scshunt   Declassification

PRESENT

7424 2   omd   Auctions are gone and back again, still don't
.. need this

FOR

7425 2   Walker, etc.  Yaks

FOR

BUS: Judgement, CFJ 3300

[Ed Murphy]

Causing a rule to become a Slave Golem would modify that rule, and
would not fit within the mechanism of Rule 105 (Power=3), so Rule 105
prevents it from occurring.  FALSE.

BUS: Recusal

[Ed Murphy]

I recuse Tomas from CFJ 3310.

Re: BUS: Official CFJs (also contains a proposal)

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


Proposal:  No news is important news
(AI = 2)


I retract this proposal.  (Already covered by Rule 2379.)

Re: BUS: vote manipulation

[Ed Murphy]

omd wrote:


I spend 3 VCs to increase G.'s VVLOP by 3.


From 9 to 12, thus resetting VVLOPs and destroying VCs.

Re: BUS: Official CFJs (also contains a proposal)

[Ed Murphy]

scshunt wrote:


I initiate criminal CFJs alleging the following:

That Murphy violated Rule 2143 by failing to report on the PVN and on
Virtue last week.


Defendant's arguments:

1) To my knowledge, PVN is not required to be reported.

2) To my knowledge, each player's Virtue is at its default value and is
thus not required to be reported.

Proposal:  No news is important news
(AI = 2)

Amend Rule 2162 (Switches) by replacing this text:

  That officer's report includes the value of
 each instance of that switch whose value is not its default
 value.

with this text:

  That officer's report includes the value of
 each instance of that switch whose value is not its default
 value, or if there are no such instances, then a statement to
 that effect.

BUS: Inconstant vigilance

[Ed Murphy]

I intend, without objection, to ratify the following:

As of 12 May 2013 00:00:00 UTC, the Police Vigilance Number (PVN) was 0
and all players were Virtuous.

(I believe this to be correct anyway, given the lack of CFJs containing
the text "taunt" or "naught" since the adoption of the PVN and Virtue.)

Re: BUS: Bribery for Proposal Rights

[Ed Murphy]

Bucky wrote:


I cause the BPPP to attempt to register (with Agoran Consent).


CFJ:  The message quoted in evidence is equivalent to an announcement of
intent to register.

Evidence:  The above-quoted message.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7416-7417

[Ed Murphy]

7416 3   omd Not my job

PRESENT

7417 1   Roujo   Blackmail is no fun

FOR

BUS: Judgements, CFJs 3312-14

[Ed Murphy]

"The author of promise ODY-1" is simply a broken reference and does not
cause ODY-1 to cease to exist, any more than "the king of England"
causes England to do so.  ODY-1 exists, it can be cashed, but the effect
of cashing (including creating a copy of itself) is ineffective due to
the broken reference.

3312:  TRUE
3313:  TRUE
3314:  FALSE

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Report

[Ed Murphy]

scshunt wrote:


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

VVLOPs (Rule 2389)
--
  7  ais523
  9  G.
  9  Machiavelli
  7  woggle
  4  all other players


CoE: My VVLOP is 6 and ais523's VVLOP is 8.


Admitted.  (I hadn't gotten to that message yet.)

BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposals 7405, 7414-7415

[Ed Murphy]

7405 2   omd Nerf VCs

FOR

7414 1   Roujo   (untitled)

AGAINT

7415 1   G.  Classic Nomic Ribbon

PRESENT

BUS: Recusal

[Ed Murphy]

I recuse Wes from CFJ 3300.

BUS: Proposal: Limit favoritism

[Ed Murphy]

Proposal:  Limit favoritism
(AI = 2)

Amend Rule 1868 (Judge Assignment Generally) by replacing this text:

  A player CAN favor or disfavor a judicial case by announcement.
  When assigning a judge to a judicial case, the CotC, if
  possible, SHALL assign a player who has favored it and SHALL NOT
  assign a player who has disfavored it.

with this text:

  A player CAN favor or disfavor a judicial case by announcement.
  When assigning a judge to a judicial case, the CotC, if
  possible and otherwise legal, SHALL assign a player who has
  favored it and SHALL NOT assign a player who has disfavored it.

[If a sitting/leaning player favors a case, then the CotC both SHALL
and SHALL NOT assign them.  There are loopholes, but not good ones.]

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

Roujo wrote:


On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ed Murphy  wrote:

Clerk's Docket

[snip]

G.   (3305)   (Ambassador-at-Large)


CoE: I'm the Ambassador-at-Large.


Admitted.  I've removed this from the draft, as it's adequately covered
by the IADoP's report.  (I forget why I added it in the first place, I
think Initial Posture was tied to the Justiciar's / AaL's posture once?)

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7364 - 7395

[Ed Murphy]

woggle wrote:


I hereby make the following claims of error concerning the purported
resolution of decisions on proposals 7364-7395:

On 4/20/13 14:44 , Ed Murphy wrote:

Voting results for Proposals 7364 - 7395:

[snip]

!7382  1.0  omd Плутократия!

* Proposal 7382 did not fail quorum. [And even if it did, its voting period
would be extended, so resolving it would be premature.]
* There were valid ballots submitted on Proposal 7382.
[snip]

!7384  3.0  ais523  Bulletproof potato cleanup

* Proposal 7384 did not fail quorum.
* There were valid ballots submitted on Proposal 7384.


Admitted, on the grounds of extended voting periods if nothing
else.  Votes like "AGAINST*1000" count (1 of those 1000 votes is
valid now that the proposals are Democratic).  Votes like "AGAINST"
probably don't:
  * Rule 2280 interprets this as "AGAINST * voting limit"
  * All attempted votes pre-dated democratization
  * Everyone's voting limit on Plutocratic proposals was zero

I'll work out the details later and publish a correction.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Amended: Distribution of Proposals 7396–7413

[Ed Murphy]

7396  1.0  Ordinary  omd  Plan B

AGAINST

7397  3.0  Democrat  scshunt  Approaching 20

FOR

7398  1.5  Ordinary  scshunt  Credit Where It's Due

PRESENT

7399  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  FIFO

PRESENT

7400  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Meaningful fines

FOR

7401  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  ON DELETE CASCADE

FOR

7402  2.0  Ordinary  omd  Avoid "casual" vacancies with a
   carrot

FOR

7403  3.0  Ordinary  omd  Avoid "casual" vacancies with a
   stick

FOR

7404  2.0  Ordinary  omd  Secure VCs

FOR

7405  2.0  Ordinary  omd  Nerf VCs

FOR

7406  1.0  Ordinary  omd  dump unused

AGAINST

7407  1.0  Ordinary  omd  dump contests

FOR

7408  3.0  Ordinary  omd  dump heroics

AGAINST

7409  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Player Power

FOR

7410  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  That vacant officer is doing a great
   job

FOR

7411  3.0  Ordinary  BuckyBot Corporate Control

FOR

7412  2.0  Democrat  woggle   Protect VVLOP 2.1

FOR

7413  3.0  Democrat  woggle   Protect VVLOP 3

PRESENT

BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Elections for every office not held by Murphy

[Ed Murphy]

Machiavelli wrote:


For each listed office, I initiate the Agoran Decision to determine
the new officeholder. For these decisions, the eligible voters are the
active first-class players, the vote collector is the IADoP, and the
valid options are the nominees listed (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
The set of valid options can change if any nominee declines eir
nomination.

IADoP: Machiavelli, scshunt


I endorse Machiavelli.


Registrar: omd, Machiavelli


I endorse omd.

BUS: Wibster's

[Ed Murphy]

I intend, without objection, to add a Dictionary entry defining
"AGAINT" as "no vote".

BUS: Judgement, CFJ 3302

[Ed Murphy]

3302:  FALSE.  scshunt can do this for some proposals (AI = 1 and
outcome = ADOPTED) but not others.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

[Ed Murphy]

7364  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Ribbon Evolution

PRESENT

7365  1.0  Ordinary  RoujoMarket Failure

PRESENT

7366  1.0  Ordinary  RoujoCascading Market Failure

PRESENT

7367  3.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Series Reboot

AGAINST

7368  3.0  Ordinary  Wes

FOR

7369  1.0  Ordinary  BuckyBot Shifting Blame

FOR

7370  3.0  Ordinary  omd  Prevent identification of something
   or other

FOR

7371  3.0  Ordinary  omd  Fix onerous ratification requirement

PRESENT

7372  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Monthly Dispatches

FOR

7373  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Justice!

AGAINST

7374  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Recycling

AGAINST

7375  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Ministry

FOR

7376  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Listen to the Speaker

FOR

7377  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Sticky Gerontocracy

FOR

7378  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  People don't use these

FOR

7379  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Making things a little more ordinary

FOR

7380  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  This suddenly isn't fun any more

FOR

7381  1.0  Ordinary  omd  Democratic Unilateralism

AGAINST

7382  1.0  Plutocra  omd  Плутократия!

AGAINST

7383  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Decomposition

FOR

7384  3.0  Ordinary  ais523   Bulletproof potato cleanup

AGAINST

7385  3.0  Ordinary  scshunt  New Beginnings

AGAINST

7386  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Eraser

FOR

7387  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Frustrater

FOR

7388  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Paradoxer

FOR

7389  1.0  Ordinary  scshunt  How Boring

AGAINST

7390  2.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Grounder

FOR

7391  1.0  Ordinary  scshunt  Ribbon Cleanup

PRESENT

7392  1.5  Ordinary  scshunt  His Story

FOR

7393  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Transparent kludge

PRESENT

7394  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Transparent non-kludge

PRESENT

7395  3.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Seventy-Three Ninety-Five

FOR

Re: BUS: Notability

[Ed Murphy]

Machiavelli wrote:


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Sean Hunt  wrote:

I intend, with 2 support, to make the following CFJs Notable:

3196, suggesting Rule 2127
3224, suggesting Rule 1551
2916, suggesting Rule 478
3289, suggesting Rule 478
3197, suggesting Rule 478
3289, suggesting Rule 2141


I support all of these.


So do I.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3298 judged TRUE by Machiavelli

[Ed Murphy]

Machiavelli wrote:


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Sean Hunt  wrote:

I intend, with two support, to make this case Notable, suggesting Rule 2143.


I support.


AOL!

BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

[Ed Murphy]

woggle wrote:


I intend, with 3 Agoran consent, to make the decision to adopt proposal 7384
Democratic.

I intend, with 2 Elder support, to make the decision to adopt proposal 7384
Gerontocratic.


I support both.

BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

[Ed Murphy]

woggle wrote:


On 4/10/13 12:45 , Tanner Swett wrote:
[snip]

7382  1.0  Plutocra  omd  Плутократия!


I intend, with 2 Elder support, to make the decision to adopt Proposal 7382
Gerontocratic.

I intend, with 3 Agoran consent, to make the decision to adopt Proposal 7382
Democratic.


I support both.

Re: BUS: I knew there was an escalation somewhere

[Ed Murphy]

woggle wrote:


I intend, with 4 Elder support, to set the Adoption Index of the Agoran
Decision to adopt Proposal 7358 to 8.


I support.

Re: BUS: Fwd: Agora

[Ed Murphy]

On 4/1/2013 9:19 PM, Joe Vasoli wrote:


*From:* Joseph mailto:terminus...@hotmail.com>>
*Date:* April 2, 2013, 12:14:08 AM EDT
*To:* "tue75...@temple.edu "
mailto:tue75...@temple.edu>>
*Subject:* *Agora*

ID  AI  CHAMBER AUTHOR  TITLE   VOTEREASONING
73562   OrdinaryG.  Aveho Justitiarius! FOR Upon 
reviewing 2378
and 991 we have determined that the activities 1871 entails are in the
vein of COTC duties and that in light of this change the deletion of
"monthly" was necessary to prevent 1871 from conflicting with 991

(etc.)

I think Joe is a non-player, thus eir votes don't count.  Joe, if you
want to become a player, you can send a message stating "I register"
to the agora-business list (Rule 869), then vote on proposals
distributed afterward (Rule 1950).

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7356–7363

[Ed Murphy]

7356  1.5  Ordinary  G.   Aveho Justitiarius!

FOR

7357  3.0  Ordinary  G.   Controlling Interest

FOR

7358  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Proxy Victory

FOR

7359  1.0  Ordinary  G.   Proxy Loss

FOR

7360  3.0  Ordinary  G.   Proxy Voting

FOR

7361  2.0  Ordinary  G.   Auctions

FOR, do I hear five, going once, going twice, SOLD!

7362  2.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  We don't need that one

FOR

7363  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Scale peaks to 0 dB

FOR

BUS: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7344 - 7348

[Ed Murphy]

I transfer a prop from myself (for losing these in the shuffle) to G.
(for noticing).


Voting results for Proposals 7344 - 7348:

[This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!).]

x7344  2.0  BuckyBotVvlop fixes?
*7345  3.0  woggle  Power of the Elders
x7346  1.5  G.  Disimposture
*7347  2.0  G.  A different Protector
*7348  2.0  Machiavel   Fixed vvlop fixes?

7344  7345  7346  7347  7348

G.   2P2F2A2F2P
Machiavel2A2F2A2F2F
Murphy   2P2F2A2P2P
omd  2F2F2F2F2F
woggle   2P2F2P2F2F

AI2 3 1.5   2 2
VI1*U*0.3+ *U*   *U*
F/A  2/2  10/0   2/6   8/0   6/0

Quorum5 5 5 5 5
Voters5 5 5 5 5


Text of adopted proposals:


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ID: 7345
AI: 3.0
Chamber: Ordinary
Author: woggle
Title: Power of the Elders

Set the power of rule 2357 to 3.

Amend Rule 2357 by replacing "The eligible voters on" with "Rules to
the contrary notwithstanding, the eligible voters on".

[Current R1950 defines the eligible voters for all decisions with
adoption indices at power 3, making R2357's attempt to do so for
Gerontocratic decisions ineffective.]

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ID: 7347
AI: 2.0
Chamber: Ordinary
Author: G.
Title: A different Protector

Rename Rule 2378 (The Justiciar) to 'Court Protector' and amend it
to read:

  A CFJ may be submitted to the Ambassador-At-Large.  For such a
  CFJ, the Ambassador-At-Large shall perform all duties and
  fulfill all roles that would otherwise be assigned to the Clerk
  of the Courts.  This takes precedence over Rules that would
  otherwise assign duties and roles regarding a CFJ to the Clerk
  of the Courts.  All persons are encouraged to submit a CFJ to
  the Ambassador-At-Large only when there is a good reason not to
  submit it to the Clerk of the Courts.

  If the Clerk of the Courts ever holds the office of
  Ambassador-At- Large, then, rules to the contrary
  notwithstanding, the Ambassador- At-Large becomes Assumed.

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ID: 7348
AI: 2.0
Chamber: Ordinary
Author: Machiavelli (co-authors Bucky and BuckyBot)
Title: Fixed vvlop fixes?

If a rule titled "Ordinary Chamber" exists, amend it so that it reads
as follows; otherwise, enact such a rule, with power 2, with the
following text:
{
  VVLOP is a player switch, tracked by the Assessor, whose
  possible values are the non-negative integers, and whose default
  value is four for first-class players and zero for second-class
  players.  The voting limit of an entity on an Ordinary Decision
  is eir VVLOP.

  Voting Credits (or VCs) are a fixed currency whose recordkeepor
  is the Promotor. Whenever a proposal is adopted, its author
  gains a number of VCs equal to the integer part of the
  proposal's adoption index, and each of the proposal's co-authors
  who is a first-class player gains one VC.

  A person may spend two VCs to increase any player's VVLOP by
  one. A first-class person may spend one VC to increase any other
  first-class player's VVLOP by one. A person may spend two VCs to
  decrease any other player's VVLOP by one.

  Whenever a person's VVLOP becomes 12 or greater, or the total
  VVLOP of all second-class players is greater than the total
  VVLOP of all first-class players, all VVLOPs are set to their
  default values, and all VCs are destroyed.
}

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Re: BUS: back to normal

[Ed Murphy]

G. wrote:


I intend to flip Speed to Normal with Agoran Consent.


I support.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

ehird wrote:


On 11 March 2013 18:52, Ed Murphy  wrote:

Date of this report:  ...


CoE: The date of the quoted report is not "...".


Admitted, it was 11 Mar 13.  (Obviously I missed editing that part
before sending it out.)

BUS: Recusals

[Ed Murphy]

I recuse omd from CFJs 3289 and 3294.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


I wrote:


On or about Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:44:22 -0800, I wrote:


Clerk's Docket



Posture (Rule 1871) of active players
-

Standing:  (none)

  Sitting:  ais523   (was standing)
Antony   (3289)
G.   (was supine)
Italy(3289)
Murphy   (3290)
woggle   (was supine)

  Leaning:  Yally

   Supine:  ehird
Kolja
Max Schutz
Pavitra
Roujo
Wes
Wooble

Unqualified (Rule 1868)
---

All of these players are supine, except as noted.

Inactive:  Arkady
   BobTHJ
   FKA441344   (standing)
   Flameshadowxeroshin
   justine sells
   moonroof
   Ozymandias
   Phlogistique
   scat
   Sgeo
   Walker

Second-class:  Agora Nomic (Rule 2339)
   The President   (Rule 2326)
   slave golems(Rule 2361, Golemkeepor's report;
 BuckyBot is sitting)


I intend (without objection) to ratify the above-quoted text as it
pertains to postures.  (This is likely incorrect for some players
due to Initial Posture; the intent is to skip recomputation that
probably no one cares about.)


Oops, missed following up on this in time.  I once again intend
(without objection) to ratify that the above-quoted text was (at time
of first publication) correct as it pertains to posture.


Having received no objections, I do so.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7351–7353, now with Humiliating™ Reminders

[Ed Murphy]

7351  3.0  Ordinary  G.   Definition merge

FOR

7352  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Postregistration transparency

PRESENT

7353  1.0  Ordinary  Machiavelli  Renaissance unribbonworthiness

PRESENT

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

[Ed Murphy]

I wrote:


On or about Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:44:22 -0800, I wrote:


Clerk's Docket



Posture (Rule 1871) of active players
-

Standing:  (none)

  Sitting:  ais523   (was standing)
Antony   (3289)
G.   (was supine)
Italy(3289)
Murphy   (3290)
woggle   (was supine)

  Leaning:  Yally

   Supine:  ehird
Kolja
Max Schutz
Pavitra
Roujo
Wes
Wooble

Unqualified (Rule 1868)
---

All of these players are supine, except as noted.

Inactive:  Arkady
   BobTHJ
   FKA441344   (standing)
   Flameshadowxeroshin
   justine sells
   moonroof
   Ozymandias
   Phlogistique
   scat
   Sgeo
   Walker

Second-class:  Agora Nomic (Rule 2339)
   The President   (Rule 2326)
   slave golems(Rule 2361, Golemkeepor's report;
 BuckyBot is sitting)


I intend (without objection) to ratify the above-quoted text as it
pertains to postures.  (This is likely incorrect for some players
due to Initial Posture; the intent is to skip recomputation that
probably no one cares about.)


Oops, missed following up on this in time.  I once again intend
(without objection) to ratify that the above-quoted text was (at time
of first publication) correct as it pertains to posture.