Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-16 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
 If it is a high-Z output directly from the plate of the tube through a
 parallel tuned circuit, like the stock T-368 unit or commercial ham VFO's
 like the VF-1 or Johnson 122, I would say maybe 5-6 feet at most, because
 the capacitance of the coax running to the transmitter begins to swamp out
 the tuning capacitance in the VFO output circuit.

 If it uses link coupling or other system of low-Z output, you can probably
 use a long a run as you need without any problems.

Thanks Don  others -

The cable I got with the transmitter has an octal plug on one end to
plug directly into the crystal oscillator unit where the crystal oven
would plug in. It's maybe 4-5' long at most. Can't recall if Barry had
the unit sitting inside the front door or left the door slightly ajar
with it outside. The interlocks are all disconnected but I plan to
reconnect them once all the bugs and any operational issues are
settled. I'm not big on having doors open with HV floating around.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread D. Chester
 So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
 will
 be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

 73, Al  K3TKJ

Why be content to operate on just ONE frequency?

It is very easy to convert those xtal oscillator stages to function as 
buffer stages for an external VFO, and to make rf stages the rig tuneable 
across the band so that the rig will function with VFO or multiple xtals.

If you have a VFO with low impedance output, and capable of at least 0.25 
watts, the best solution is to ground the grid of the xtal oscillator stage, 
disconnect any feedback circuitry going to the cathode, add an rf choke from 
cathode to ground if necessary, and inject the rf signal from the VFO 
directly to the cathode through a coupling capacitor.  That is what I do 
with my Gates BC1-T and homebrew HF-300 transmitter.  With the other 
homebrew rig presently tuned to 40m, I inject the VFO signal directly to the 
control grid of the 6AG7 1st buffer/amplifier stage.

I converted my BC1-T to external VFO, which is a modified T-368 m.o. unit, 
and it will tune from 1800 to 2000 with all the transmitter tuned circuits 
accessible from the front panel, and the neutralisation holds perfectly from 
one end of the band to the other without readjustment.

One of the faults I find with much of the present-day AM operation on 160 
and 75 is the same as with the SSB dead-air groups: insisting on operating 
on one and only one frequency, with daily 8 to 10 member roundtables amidst 
QRM from adjacent QSO's less than 5 kHz away in both directions, while there 
may be tens of kHz of vacant space in other parts of the band.  We need to 
spread out a little and maintain more widespread AM presence throughout the 
bands, with reasonable sized QSO's and roundtable groups.

Don k4kyv


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread Dudley
Hello Al, alot of info on the 20V's @ Collins 20v group @ yahoo.com, if you 
need more 20v info contact me @ kd...@hughes.net, Dudley Parkin/W5DUD
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


 So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much
 will
 be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

 73, Al  K3TKJ

 Why be content to operate on just ONE frequency?

 It is very easy to convert those xtal oscillator stages to function as
 buffer stages for an external VFO, and to make rf stages the rig tuneable
 across the band so that the rig will function with VFO or multiple xtals.

 If you have a VFO with low impedance output, and capable of at least 0.25
 watts, the best solution is to ground the grid of the xtal oscillator 
 stage,
 disconnect any feedback circuitry going to the cathode, add an rf choke 
 from
 cathode to ground if necessary, and inject the rf signal from the VFO
 directly to the cathode through a coupling capacitor.  That is what I do
 with my Gates BC1-T and homebrew HF-300 transmitter.  With the other
 homebrew rig presently tuned to 40m, I inject the VFO signal directly to 
 the
 control grid of the 6AG7 1st buffer/amplifier stage.

 I converted my BC1-T to external VFO, which is a modified T-368 m.o. unit,
 and it will tune from 1800 to 2000 with all the transmitter tuned circuits
 accessible from the front panel, and the neutralisation holds perfectly 
 from
 one end of the band to the other without readjustment.

 One of the faults I find with much of the present-day AM operation on 160
 and 75 is the same as with the SSB dead-air groups: insisting on operating
 on one and only one frequency, with daily 8 to 10 member roundtables 
 amidst
 QRM from adjacent QSO's less than 5 kHz away in both directions, while 
 there
 may be tens of kHz of vacant space in other parts of the band.  We need to
 spread out a little and maintain more widespread AM presence throughout 
 the
 bands, with reasonable sized QSO's and roundtable groups.

 Don k4kyv


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dudley kd...@hughes.net wrote:
 Hello Al, alot of info on the 20V's @ Collins 20v group

Which never made sense to me since these 'specialized' groups only
serve to splinter the knowledge base and stifle an overall technical
discussion that benefits all AMers. Just think how it would be if we
had a group for the Gates BC1-T also, or the RCA, GE, etc. BC
transmitters. Whatever, free country and all that.

Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
distance electrically for a VFO. Barry used to run a VFO on the 300G
and included a short cable with it for that purpose. I know someone
(maybe Paul, VJB?) actually removed the lower window in the door and
stuck the same T-368 unit inside their 300G. I'm hoping to have it
back on the air by fall and don't mind starting out crystal-controlled
to get things sorted out, but will want the flexibility to move around
for the exact reasons you mentioned. I'd like to have it on the bench
next to the transmitter, but that could end up being 8-10 feet going
through the transmitter's access holes.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread sbjohnston

Todd wrote:

Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
distance electrically for a VFO.

I'm not Don but I have some thoughts:  It depends a lot on the output 
impedance of the VFO, I'd think.  If it is low-Z, say less than 100 
ohms, then I'd think you could run coax quite a long way.  The DDS VFO 
I built and use with my Gates BC-1T has a video op-amp as the output 
line driver so it is no problem to run a fair distance on regular 
coaxial cable.

See

http://www.wd8das.net/DDSVFO/ddsvfo.html

which shows both the VFO circuit and the interface to the Gates AM rig. 


If you have a VFO with a high-Z output, maybe the special 
low-capacitance coax used for broadcast antennas on cars would help.

Steve WD8DAS

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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread John Coleman
If voltage is needed for the exciter a long coax line from the VFO can be tuned 
with a small network to provide the voltage needed at the grid of a distant 
buffer.

John, WA5BXO

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Todd wrote:

Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
distance electrically for a VFO.

I'm not Don but I have some thoughts:  It depends a lot on the output
impedance of the VFO, I'd think.  If it is low-Z, say less than 100
ohms, then I'd think you could run coax quite a long way.  The DDS VFO
I built and use with my Gates BC-1T has a video op-amp as the output
line driver so it is no problem to run a fair distance on regular
coaxial cable.

See

http://www.wd8das.net/DDSVFO/ddsvfo.html

which shows both the VFO circuit and the interface to the Gates AM rig.


If you have a VFO with a high-Z output, maybe the special
low-capacitance coax used for broadcast antennas on cars would help.

Steve WD8DAS

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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2009-02-14 Thread D. Chester
 Don, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on maximum connection
 distance electrically for a VFO. Barry used to run a VFO on the 300G
 and included a short cable with it for that purpose. I know someone
 (maybe Paul, VJB?) actually removed the lower window in the door and
 stuck the same T-368 unit inside their 300G. I'm hoping to have it
 back on the air by fall and don't mind starting out crystal-controlled
 to get things sorted out, but will want the flexibility to move around
 for the exact reasons you mentioned. I'd like to have it on the bench
 next to the transmitter, but that could end up being 8-10 feet going
 through the transmitter's access holes.

 ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4

If it is a high-Z output directly from the plate of the tube through a 
parallel tuned circuit, like the stock T-368 unit or commercial ham VFO's 
like the VF-1 or Johnson 122, I would say maybe 5-6 feet at most, because 
the capacitance of the coax running to the transmitter begins to swamp out 
the tuning capacitance in the VFO output circuit.

If it uses link coupling or other system of low-Z output, you can probably 
use a long a run as you need without any problems.

I modified my T-368 unit to link coupled output..  I salvaged a bandswitch 
wafer from a junker parts unit, disassembled the bandswitch in the good unit 
and added the new wafer.  I cut the metal sleeves and shortened one section 
by the thickness of the wafer, and reassembled the switch with the 
additional wafer.  I then removed each of the slug tuned output coils and 
added a few turns of wire at the cold end.  One end of the coupling coil was 
grounded and the other end went out through a new connection terminal.  I 
don't recall whether there was a spare terminal or if I had to fabricate an 
additional one.  The new bandswitch wafer is used to select the appropriate 
output coil link and take the output to a BNC connector I installed at the 
rear of the unit.  I  removed the stock BNC near the output tube and 
disconnected the wire lead going to it.  After the mod, I can get 200-250 mw 
of power into a 50-ohm  load.  I replaced the 6000 tube with a 6AG7, which 
required rewiring the octal socket.  I run only about 200 volts on the 6AG7 
and the rest of the tubes in the unit.

The unit wouldn't track perfectly across the entire range as it did before 
the mod, but it does track across each of the ham bands with negligible 
error.  Since I don't have any use for frequency coverage outside the 
amateur bands, that's no problem.  I might have a slight problem to work out 
if I ever try to cover both 40m and 30m using the 6-12 mHz range; I have 
never tried it to see  how much output I get on 30m.  I use RG-59 to couple 
the VFO to each of the transmitters.  The longest run goes to the Gates on 
160m, about 15 ft.

I get more than adequate drive for any of the rigs.

Don k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue Update

2008-11-23 Thread WA5AM
Not bad shape at all Al!  Not nearly as dirty as I though it might
have been from your description.  Congrats on saving one of the great
old AM broadcast Tx's out there.  Sad to hear about the demise of the
old AM station however.

73  good luck!

Brian / wa5am


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great pictures! The old gal looks to be in pretty good shape.
 Congratulations!
 Rick/K5IAR


 I left the house at 6AM this morning and drove 200 miles to Winchester,
 Virginia to retrieve the Collins 20V-2 that was given to me. The station
 went QRT Monday and yesterday all 4 320' towers were dropped by cutting
 a
 guy anchor. I was sad to see the destruction of a 60 year old AM site
 just
 so a housing project can be started. The 20V-2 is in fine shape, a few
 obvious thing need to be addressedand it has 48 years of dirt to be
 dealt with.

 Here are some pictures of today's exploits and I will post some more
 tomorrow after I unload the truck and trailer.
 .

 73, Al K3TKJ


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[AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue Update

2008-11-22 Thread Al Waller
I left the house at 6AM this morning and drove 200 miles to Winchester,
Virginia to retrieve the Collins 20V-2 that was given to me. The station
went QRT Monday and yesterday all 4 320' towers were dropped by cutting a
guy anchor. I was sad to see the destruction of a 60 year old AM site just
so a housing project can be started. The 20V-2 is in fine shape, a few
obvious thing need to be addressedand it has 48 years of dirt to be
dealt with.

Here are some pictures of today's exploits and I will post some more
tomorrow after I unload the truck and trailer.

http://www.dxham.com/2008-11-22/


Notice the nice wall of Collins  2 Antenna tuning units in 20v cabinets, the
20v-2, the far end is a Collins FM transmitter all tubes.

While I was there today I was offered a Harris MW-5 AM TX ( 5KW Ceramic
tubes, Solid state exciter ). It is up for adoption if anyone has the
desire. I have no interest in it. TX is located near Washington, DC it is
BIG and HEAVY.

73, Al K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue Update

2008-11-22 Thread cemilton

 Hi Al,

Thanks for sharing the photos and story of the 20V-2.? My first job as CE of an 
AM outlet in Kentucky was working on a 300J which we converted to the 20V-2 
when the FCC gave us authority to go 1kw.? I spent many fine hours working with 
the transmitter which seldom, if ever, gave us much of a problem.

You have a real classic there.? 

Sri to hear abt the station going QRT and the subsequent dropping of the 
directional array.

The real golden days of AM radio are all but history now.? 

Thanks agn fer sharing.

73
Chuck
W4MIL


 


 

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Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue Update










I left the house at 6AM this morning and drove 200 miles to Winchester,
Virginia to retrieve the Collins 20V-2 that was given to me. The station
went QRT Monday and yesterday all 4 320' towers were dropped by cutting a
guy anchor. I was sad to see the destruction of a 60 year old AM site just
so a housing project can be started. The 20V-2 is in fine shape, a few
obvious thing need to be addressedand it has 48 years of dirt to be
dealt with.

Here are some pictures of today's exploits and I will post some more
tomorrow after I unload the truck and trailer.

http://www.dxham.com/2008-11-22/


Notice the nice wall of Collins  2 Antenna tuning units in 20v cabinets, the
20v-2, the far end is a Collins FM transmitter all tubes.

While I was there today I was offered a Harris MW-5 AM TX ( 5KW Ceramic
tubes, Solid state exciter ). It is up for adoption if anyone has the
desire. I have no interest in it. TX is located near Washington, DC it is
BIG and HEAVY.

73, Al K3TKJ


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RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue Update

2008-11-22 Thread Rick
Great pictures! The old gal looks to be in pretty good shape.
Congratulations!
Rick/K5IAR


I left the house at 6AM this morning and drove 200 miles to Winchester,
Virginia to retrieve the Collins 20V-2 that was given to me. The station
went QRT Monday and yesterday all 4 320' towers were dropped by cutting
a
guy anchor. I was sad to see the destruction of a 60 year old AM site
just
so a housing project can be started. The 20V-2 is in fine shape, a few
obvious thing need to be addressedand it has 48 years of dirt to be
dealt with.

Here are some pictures of today's exploits and I will post some more
tomorrow after I unload the truck and trailer.
.

73, Al K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-21 Thread Joe Crawford
WA4NPL, Don Roden, in Huntsville, AL has a 20V-2 for sale with spare 
4-400's.It is QTH.com # 702340. Don is broadcast engineer, and he said it is 
on the high end of BC band now(per his ad).

Joe W4AAB
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Hi Al: I picked up a 20v2 abt a mo ago, so far have only fixed some mech 
issues and put a coat of was on it. it lookes good. hope to have it on air 
by spring. i do have a Gates BC1G on 80, got it this spring and use a 
Drake T4X as a driver. 73 Bernie
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Hi Bernie,

I have a pretty good source for these due to my present job. I also 
rescued a Harris FM-3K but thought better than to announce that on the AM 
list grin. I hope to get this one shined up and on the air over the 
winterlike I need another project.


73, Al


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Hi Al: I think the best thing for you to do to keep harmony in the 
family is to just tell me where it is located. I can then dispose of it 
for you. Bernie W8RPW

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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to 
WA3GGM
as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm 
has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be 
mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM 
station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and 
haul it

home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
will

be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread QED Consultants
Hi Al: I think the best thing for you to do to keep harmony in the family is 
to just tell me where it is located. I can then dispose of it for you. 
Bernie W8RPW
- Original Message - 
From: Al Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to 
WA3GGM

as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM 
station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and haul 
it

home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
will

be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Al Waller, K3TKJ

Hi Bernie,

I have a pretty good source for these due to my present job. I also 
rescued a Harris FM-3K but thought better than to announce that on the 
AM list grin. I hope to get this one shined up and on the air over the 
winterlike I need another project.


73, Al


QED Consultants wrote:
Hi Al: I think the best thing for you to do to keep harmony in the 
family is to just tell me where it is located. I can then dispose of 
it for you. Bernie W8RPW

- Original Message - From: Al Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to 
WA3GGM

as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be 
mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM 
station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and 
haul it

home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how 
much will

be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Ed Sieb
Nah...

Just tell her it's a fridge.  ;-)(That's what I told my wife, when I 
brought home two
RCA's!)
She said, Yup, uh-huh... put it in the garage, with the rest of your fridges!

Ed, VA3ES
---

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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread AirRadio
I just remember the look on my wife's face when she saw my BC-610E for the 
first time, just the same look as when my T-1509 (Marconi 350w wartime tx 
800lbs) arrived too, she has wised up to the fridge idea, I just wish these 
big AM broadcast tx's would turn up in the UK but I have never seen one for 
sale..yet..probably a good thing. 73 Max M0GHQ



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Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue



Nah...

Just tell her it's a fridge.  ;-)(That's what I told my wife, when I 
brought home two

RCA's!)
She said, Yup, uh-huh... put it in the garage, with the rest of your 
fridges!


Ed, VA3ES
---

Bernie W8RPW, wrote:
Hi Al: I think the best thing for you to do to keep harmony in the family 
is

to just tell me where it is located. I can then dispose of it for you.


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Al Waller, K3TKJ


Thanks for all the info guys. I just completed a 225' rotating 
tower, it looked pretty innocent when it was horizontal and in 4 pieces. 
When my wife arrived home a few hours after the crane left her comment 
was  Have you lost your mind? LOL.


73,
Al




AirRadio wrote:
I just remember the look on my wife's face when she saw my BC-610E for 
the first time, just the same look as when my T-1509 (Marconi 350w 
wartime tx 800lbs) arrived too, she has wised up to the fridge idea, I 
just wish these big AM broadcast tx's would turn up in the UK but I 
have never seen one for sale..yet..probably a good thing. 73 Max M0GHQ



- Original Message - From: Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue



Nah...

Just tell her it's a fridge.  ;-)(That's what I told my wife, 
when I brought home two

RCA's!)
She said, Yup, uh-huh... put it in the garage, with the rest of your 
fridges!


Ed, VA3ES
--- 



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RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Bob Peters
This is the way I started... Igot a Globe King 400
and the a 500 upgraded to a T3 and then went to
the BC1G.. Work them up slowly. You should have
seen my wife when the Widow came out to put in the
GATES...


Very Best 73's,

Bob W1PE
Mesquite,TX

http://www.w1pe.com





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Of AirRadio
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:37 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter
rescue

I just remember the look on my wife's face when
she saw my BC-610E for the 
first time, just the same look as when my T-1509
(Marconi 350w wartime tx 
800lbs) arrived too, she has wised up to the
fridge idea, I just wish these 
big AM broadcast tx's would turn up in the UK but
I have never seen one for 
sale..yet..probably a good thing. 73 Max M0GHQ


- Original Message - 
From: Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur
Service 
amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter
rescue


 Nah...

 Just tell her it's a fridge.  ;-)(That's
what I told my wife, when I 
 brought home two
 RCA's!)
 She said, Yup, uh-huh... put it in the garage,
with the rest of your 
 fridges!

 Ed, VA3ES

--
-

 Bernie W8RPW, wrote:
 Hi Al: I think the best thing for you to do to
keep harmony in the family 
 is
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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Chesek

Hmmm, don't we have a 200 foot limit?

Tom K3TVC


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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue




Thanks for all the info guys. I just completed a 225' rotating tower, 
it looked pretty innocent when it was horizontal and in 4 pieces. When my 
wife arrived home a few hours after the crane left her comment was  Have 
you lost your mind? LOL.


73,
Al


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Jim Wilhite
Not if you wish to paint and light the structure and aren't near an 
airport.


Jim/W5JO


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Hmmm, don't we have a 200 foot limit?

Tom K3TVC




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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread BILL GUYGER
In theory any tower over 200' has to be lit and be registered, with the Antenna 
Structure Registration number prominently posted. You can get away with not 
painting it if you have daytime strobes. Now whether or not the Friendly 
Communicators Commission has enough staff to do anything about it is another 
thing.

Bill AD5OL





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Not if you wish to paint and light the structure and aren't near an 
airport.

Jim/W5JO


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 Hmmm, don't we have a 200 foot limit?

 Tom K3TVC



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RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread George Brand
and remember to notify the FAA about it.  BTW, they were very good to deal
with when our tower was not in compliance. Gave us PLENTY of time to fix the
12 foot overage. (yes I won the arguement that an antenna 12 ft above a 200
ft tower makes it 212ft but decided I told you so was a lousy idea g)
We weren't require to light nor paint it tho that could have changed in 10
years.
George  WA8SCO

Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Not if you wish to paint and light the structure and aren't near an
airport.

Jim/W5JO

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RE: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread George Brand


BTW, my post was for Amateur Radio Service towers, not commercial

George  wa8sco

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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Dudley

Hello go to the Yahoo Collins 20v group, lots of info and help there, W5DUD
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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to 
WA3GGM

as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM 
station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and haul 
it

home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
will

be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread QED Consultants
Hi Al: I picked up a 20v2 abt a mo ago, so far have only fixed some mech 
issues and put a coat of was on it. it lookes good. hope to have it on air 
by spring. i do have a Gates BC1G on 80, got it this spring and use a Drake 
T4X as a driver. 73 Bernie
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Hi Bernie,

I have a pretty good source for these due to my present job. I also 
rescued a Harris FM-3K but thought better than to announce that on the AM 
list grin. I hope to get this one shined up and on the air over the 
winterlike I need another project.


73, Al


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is to just tell me where it is located. I can then dispose of it for you. 
Bernie W8RPW

- Original Message - From: Al Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue


Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to 
WA3GGM

as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be 
mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM 
station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and haul 
it

home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much 
will

be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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Re: [AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-20 Thread Joe Crawford

W8JI has one tower at 318 feet in GA. As Al said, what ever the FAA will OK.

   Joe W4AAB
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Tom Chesek wrote:

Hmmm, don't we have a 200 foot limit?

Tom K3TVC



No we don't...just a pocket book limit.
1. It requires local zoning approval
2. FCC Construction permit
3. FCC Registration
4. FAA registration
5.. Lighting as instructed

Sorry for the off comment thread we now return to AMRadio...

Al


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[AMRadio] Broadcast transmitter rescue

2008-11-19 Thread Al Waller
Last year I rescued a Gates BC-1 and an RCA BT-1 that I passed on to WA3GGM
as he had a passion for these that I did not. However his enthusiasm has
rubbed off on me and I have located a Collins 20V-2. This one will be mine
after restoration and conversion. It was the backup box at a 500w AM station
that went QRT last Monday. So Saturday morning I will go get it and haul it
home. thinking of what to tell the wife as I type this.

So my question to the group. Who is the Collins 20v-2 guru and how much will
be involved to move it from 610khz to 1885khz.

73, Al  K3TKJ


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