[amsat-bb] Chasqui release photo
Hi all! Here's a photo of Chasqui just after its release. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/08/19/astronauts-take-spacewalk-outside-space-station-tiny-peruvian-satellite-to-set/?intcmp=features 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Re: [amsat-bb] D-STAR Parrot Repeater Satellite launches Thursday June19
What time is the launch scheduled for? Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: M5AKA m5...@yahoo.co.uk To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] D-STAR Parrot Repeater Satellite launches Thursday June19 Dnepr Launch for D-STAR Satellite http://amsat-uk.org/2014/06/18/dnepr-launch-for-d-star-satellite/ Trevor M5AKA AMSAT-UK Website http://amsat-uk.org/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/amsatuk Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Joe Walsh on Ham Nation Tonight!
Can't get any better than this.Life's Been Good. Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:14 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Joe Walsh on Ham Nation Tonight! TONIGHT - Wednesday night, Joe Walsh WB6ACU is going to be on the Ham Nation show with us. Will be a blockbuster show with several in- studio guests. Joe will be introducing a new host that is joining the show. That is 6PM PDT / 8PM CDT, Wed April 2, 2014. Go top http://www.twit.tv and click on WATCH LIVE! And join the discussion room! Clint PS Before ANYONE asks, Why post this here, Clint??? - Well, if anyone has ever heard Joe perform, they'd agree that his work is space-worthy and out of this world ... If that isn't good enough, just know that Ham Nation has been very supportive of working the satellites - just view episodes 11 and 46, for starters ... ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming?
Will the upcoming launch be streamed on-line? 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Dnepr launch - online streaming?
Thanks for the info Ciaran! 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Ciaran Morgan cia...@it-sparkles.co.uk To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming? AMSAT-UK will be running a live web stream of the FUNcube-1 launch event, which is one of the satellites on the dnepr, from 0700UTC November 21 2013. Unfortunately we don't have a live feed from the launch site but we will be streaming the events from the National Radio Centre based at Bletchley Park, where the team that designed and built the satellite, the FUNcube Dongle and the software developers responsible for the Dashboard software and the Data Warehouse, will be present . We will continue to stream live video from the National Radio Centre for the first passes of FUNcube-1 over the UK, which we expect to be approximately 1 hour and 40 minutes after launch, and will continue with the passes that will take place during the remaining of the morning. The web stream can be accessed at www.batc.tv/streams/funcube1 The Dashboard software can be downloaded from http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/ You can also download some guidance notes that will help in the setting up of the Dashboard software and there are instructions in the notes on registering with the Data Warehouse so that any data you may capture can be uploaded into the Data Warehouse. 7 and a half hours to go On behalf of the FUNcube-1 project team. -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko Sent: 20 November 2013 21:41 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming? Will the upcoming launch be streamed on-line? 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: PhoneSat Request From NPR
Hi Daniel, Carmudgeon mode? I prefer to look at it as Truth Be Told mode. Either way, I agree with you wholeheartedly 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Daniel Schultz n8...@usa.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:20 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PhoneSat Request From NPR Original Message I'm a reporter with NPR who's working on a little story about some cell-phone satellites that were recently launched into space (Curmudgeon mode on!) 1. I tried to get NPR interested in doing a story about the launch of AMSAT-Phase 3D back in 2000. They did not think that a 600 kilogram satellite with a hypergolic propulsion system, built by volunteer labor from a dozen different countries, financed by a multimillion dollar budget contributed in $50 or $100 increments from hams around the world, was worth doing a story about, but let someone put a cell phone in a cubesat and they think that is a big deal. 2. Cell phones are consumer devices, exquisitely engineered for mass production with reasonably high reliability at minimum per unit cost. Consumer electronics is a highly specialized area of engineering, but so is space flight hardware. Using consumer electronic devices in a space flight environment is a misapplication of engineering principles and is destined to be a technological dead-end. The excuse that the satellite is only intended to last for a short time is rather lame, as is the waste of valuable launch vehicle capacity that could be better used by more serious missions. AMSAT has a dedicated team of highly competent engineers who can supply inexpensive computers and radios that are specifically engineered for space flight, yet we still have cubesat groups buying off the shelf HT's and removing them from the plastic case for installation on their cubesat because they just don't know any better. Apparently neither does NASA. 3. AMSAT-UK had two news items in the last bulletin: PhoneSat CubeSats with Ham Radio Payloads Launched and CubeSats with Ham Radio Payloads Deployed referring to the BeeSat and SOMP CubeSats. None of these satellites carry a ham radio transponder. None of them support ham radio communications. The mere fact that a satellite transmits telemetry on ham radio frequencies does not make it a Ham Radio satellite. That term should be reserved for satellites that support the purpose of amateur radio, which is two-way communications between radio amateurs. NASA's own PhoneSat press release says that These satellites were built by NASA civil servants and contractor employees from USRA and SGT. They weren't built by hams, and they don't serve ham radio. The 435 MHz band does belong to the government as the primary user, and we hams will have access to the band only as long as the government remains as the primary user. If Congress orders the band to be auctioned to commercial interests we will lose the use of it for sure. If NASA needs to use it for telemetry downlink because of the ease of licensing, availability of low cost equipment from the ham radio market, and worldwide availability of hams who may be interested in receiving and forwarding their telemetry, then go ahead and use the amateur satellite band. Just don't call it a Ham Radio satellite. (/Curmudgeon mode off) Dan Schultz, N8FGV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Close encounters of the Asteroidal Kind
What frequency do they use to ping space rocks? Do they use different frequencies when they are pretty certain if it is rock, metal or ice and dirt? Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Tony Langdon vk3...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Close encounters of the Asteroidal Kind On 8/02/13 9:33 AM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote: Well from the original post: The Goldstone 70M dish will be running MAX QRO with 435 kW. That ought to be enough for EAE. H. CQ asteroid, CQ asteroid! There's your 51+ dB! :D Slightly outside amateur power levels or the antennas available to hams. :D -- 73 de Tony VK3JED http://vkradio.com ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] PrisonSat
Geez, I hope this doesn't mean we have to start committing crimes to get our dreams built. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/06/15730738-san-quentin-inmates-building-satellite-hardware-for-nasa?lite 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: PrisonSat
The satellite uses the file while in the payload bay as a backup to the primary release system. Apparently, there isn't any early release granted to them so it might be the only way out. I guess that gives a whole new meaning to self-deployment or in this case, self-extraction. :) 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] PrisonSat No Jeff, but each sat has a small metal file built in somewhere 73, Ted, K7TRK -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:00 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] PrisonSat Geez, I hope this doesn't mean we have to start committing crimes to get our dreams built. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/06/15730738-san-quentin-inmates-buil ding-satellite-hardware-for-nasa?lite 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Ham Spirit
I say we all mellow out and listen to some songs from Lynyrd Skynyrd, especially one song in particular. Don't Ask Me No Questions. It'll probably solve some of the ongoing issues and show a perspective as to why this is getting out of hand. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG kayakfis...@gmail.com To: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:24 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Spirit Maybe we should bring back the guillotine? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.netwrote: Well, I ask, WHEN did the true spirit of ham radio CHANGE to the point where we can demean fellow hams in public message groups - WITHOUT simply contacting an offending ham privately to see if we could help them with their system? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Palm Springs HamFest - APOLOGY
Clint, Quite frankly, I see no need for an apology for that statement that you re-iterated from a Canadian national. Let's put it into perspective. Let's say you quoted the same statement but instead of saying Canadian gentleman, substitute his call, if he has one. Guarantee you, nobody would've said a thing. Unless I'm missing something, how can Canadian gentlemen be insulting? Before unnecessary apologizing to the respected fellow ham, I would've asked him how somebody from Canada should be addressed? Cunucks? Loonie (based on the Canadian Dollar coin)? Which one? I've noticed over the years the increasing number of times of people misreading an e-mail by throwing in their emotions or otherwise misguidance which in turns distorts what the e-mail states. There is also the other end of the spectrum where poorly written e-mails lead to completely off the mark interpretations, etc. Again, I would say this warrants no apology. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Palm Springs HamFest - APOLOGY K6LCS ... There was a Canadian gentleman there who said we should blame it on solar conditions ... (grin) I have been contacted off list by a gentleman who thought I was insulting Canada/Canadians with the above line. In no manner, shape, nor form did I mean to disrespect my neighbors to the North. When I wrote that line, I was remembering the gentleman and his cool, red Canada hat ... and also the marvelous stories he had as he worked the last Winter Olympics in that beautiful country. I could have left the descriptive term, Canadian, out of the sentence altogether. I wrote it just to give an international flavor to the group that was there. I cannot believe I am apologizing for THAT line ... But the gentleman who wrote me is a respected fellow ham - so here it is. Clint K6LCS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: RAX-2 Launch In 30 Minutes
Watched the launch from Las Vegas, NV. It rose over the Spring Mountians and arced southwestly and just before it disappeared behind the neighbors rooftop, the first stage seperation occured. At first, it looked like a plane then I noticed the exhaust plume as it got bigger as it gained altitude. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bryan Herbert ke6...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:20 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] RAX-2 Launch In 30 Minutes They're in the final hold, weather is awesome and everything looks good to go for the 0948 UTC launch. Much like RAX-1, RAX-2 will have an Amateur Radio beacon spitting out 500mW of 9600 baud GMSK every 20 seconds from it's right handed circularly polarized antenna... Such a spunky lil bird... Once she reaches orbit and the ground stations are able to track her they will upload the TLE data to their site. http://rax.engin.umich.edu/?page_id=308 -- Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA http://bryanherbert.com http://twitter.com/ke6zgp ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 70 MPH S-band dish
I believe that would require a (ra)dome to make it aerodynamically acceptable. I would also believe it would require azimuth and elevation controls as well since the vehicle and object will be moving. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bob Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:35 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] 70 MPH S-band dish Besides the occasional MDS dishes, is there a source now of larger commercial 2.4 GHz wire or mesh dishes? We want to outfit a van with a 4' dish for Balloon Tracking live downlink video and not have it blow off the roof at 70 MPH. I'm considering changing over many of our student projects to high altitude cubesats that can be completed in one semester and actually LAUNCHED (by balloons), as opposed to the occasional once every 3 or 4 year satellite missions which spend more time in bureaucracy than engineering for the students. Given that we only have the students for one semester. Bob, Wb4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 observation
If we could somehow harness those slightly faster than the speed of light neutrinos, discovered at CERN, and apply them to RF use, the delay could be reduced. ;) 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 observation I notice when AO-7 is out there at 4000km I can notice the delay in cw from my monitor to the 8000km round trip to and from AO-7. Kind of shades of AO-40 (sobsob) when the delay was really noticable, and when we listened to ourselves (ssb) we had to turn down the rx volume a little as no to sound like a babbling fool. 73 Bob W7LRD ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 observation
LOL! That's too fast. That would mean the return broadcast would be that of our thoughts before we speak. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Ng, Peter peter...@bccdc.ca To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 observation no, but dilithium crystals should be able to handle that...those babies can do warp 9 73's Peter VE7NGP -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:45 PM To: Bob- W7LRD; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 observation If we could somehow harness those slightly faster than the speed of light neutrinos, discovered at CERN, and apply them to RF use, the delay could be reduced. ;) 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 observation I notice when AO-7 is out there at 4000km I can notice the delay in cw from my monitor to the 8000km round trip to and from AO-7. Kind of shades of AO-40 (sobsob) when the delay was really noticable, and when we listened to ourselves (ssb) we had to turn down the rx volume a little as no to sound like a babbling fool. 73 Bob W7LRD ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Life Expectancy ARISat-1
If anything, maybe this calls for another Chicken Little Contest to see who can come the closest to predicting re-entry. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Phil Karn k...@philkarn.net To: James kb7...@gmail.com Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:34 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Life Expectancy ARISat-1 On 8/6/11 8:55 PM, James wrote: Thank you for your informative contribution.. Anyone with a real answer? Well, an educated guess can be made by looking at a plot of ISS altitude vs time: http://www.heavens-above.com/IssHeight.aspx The ISS is periodically reboosted, accounting for the sudden jumps in this sawtooth-like graph. Obviously ARISSat-1 won't be reboosted, so if you extrapolate the downward-sloping parts of the graph you can get a rough idea of what will happen. The ISS orbital decay rate varies with changes in upper atmospheric density with solar activity, but also because of changes in its attitude and the operation of the solar panels. The orbital decay rate also depends on qthe ballistic coefficient of the object. This has units of mass divided by area -- the mass of the object divided by the cross-sectional area it presents in its direction of flight. The larger the ballistic coefficient, the less its deceleration from drag as it flies through the thin upper atmosphere. The ISS probably has a larger ballistic coefficient than any other satellite simply because it's so huge. The volume of most objects increases as the cube of the size while the cross-sectional area increases with the square. Since mass is usually a function of volume, a large object will generally have a higher ballistic coefficient and last longer in a given orbit than a small object. Obviously there are exceptions to the large lives longer rule such as the Echo balloons. The actual ballistic coefficient for any given satellite has to be computed from its actual mass and dimensions and its orientation relative to its velocity vector. The ISS is a huge satellite, but it also has lightweight solar wings that greatly increase its cross-sectional area without increasing its mass very much, so they decrease its ballistic coefficient somewhat. ARISSat-1 is far smaller than the ISS, but it is fairly heavy for its size and it lacks large solar wings that create a lot of drag. This will reduce its decay rate, but it will still probably decay more quickly than the ISS. It was tossed out the back of the ISS against the velocity vector, and that immediately put it in a lower energy orbit with a higher mean motion. But any further increase in mean motion will be due to orbital decay, and from that we should be able to estimate its ballistic coefficient and how it will likely behave in the future. Determining an exact lifetime would be difficult because of the difficulty of predicting solar activity, but a good estimate can probably be made. --Phil ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Three Words ...
The only thing that comes to mind when people act or perform the way they do is when there is no accountablility or competition. With the shuttle now in mothballs, a monopoly getting into space has already settled in. Just look at the statement made by Russian officials how they planned on sinking the ISS by 2020. They recanted later, through some tactical convincing, and claimed it was all a misunderstanding or misquote. Yea, right. Get use to it people, this is just starting. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Michael Schulz msch...@creative-chaos.com To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Three Words ... So let me play devils advocate here for a second or three. When I was watching the stream, it sure looked like they didn't really give a rats ass about the satellite. The fact that these spacewalks don't occur every day tells me that there's some effort behind them. So how can it be that the folks responsible did not have their act together and check something truly obvious like .. uhm .. an antenna? I mean it's not like we're talking about a software bug that only could've been uncovered after it was all done. No, we're talking about an external, visible and physical thing. Now here's the rub. If AMSAT paid for it (to which degree and what percentage doesn't really matter) and the satellite does not have the desired and expected (and paid for) functionality because either it was damaged during the deployment or before (also doesn't really matter) who will refund AMSAT? Even more important what's the follow up to this? I sure did not get the impression that it was a well coordinated mission. The communication between the two seemed a bit .. well let's say unprofessional. Cheers, Mike K5TRI On Aug 3, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Andy Kellner wrote: No .. Linear .. Transponder ! Thank you very much Alexander Samokutyaev, Sergei Volkov and Roscosmos for a job well done. VK4FHAW ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] VUCC Satellite #217
Hi all, After 159 days since submitting the paperwork and couple follow up e-mails, I finally received my VUCC Satellite award. For some reason, I keep thinking I should've received some paperwork with the certificate and stickers. I thought they were suppose to have a copy of the grids already worked on a paper format. Maybe I'm thinking of something else. If anybody knows this to be true, please let me know. Maybe this wait isn't quite over yet. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Three towers at NASA launch site
Here's something to think about. All through the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Space shuttle programs (most of the space shuttle program) there was never additional or off pad lightning protection. The support structure was the lightning rod and with many points of contact with the wet sandy soil near the ocean. That part of Florida is the lightning capital of the world and they knew what protection was required. Now you have to ask yourself, after 50 years of placing man and unmanned spacecraft into orbit, why the additional lightning protection when we're cutting back on launches? Our manned program will be out of service for at least 10 years and unmanned will only be a handful or just a bit more per year. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Jeff Moore tnetcen...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Three towers at NASA launch site Lightning protection! If you look carefully, most launch sites have similar towers Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY CN94 - Original Message - From: Andrew Rich vk4...@tech-software.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:27 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Three towers at NASA launch site Does anyone know what the three towers are at the NASA launch sites ? Telem ? Tracking ? Sent from my iPhone Andrew Rich ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: satellite VUCC applications via LOTW
Hi Patrick and the group! I think they are having problems all around with their LoTW and awards programs. I had the local card checker process my cards for VUCC on January 24, 2011 and as of May 11, 2011, I've yet to receive my award. I'd contacted the award desk at ARRL and was told about the integration of the system, no mention of any problems, and to give it a couple more months. I'm going to wait until the end of the month of May and see what's going on. If I don't receive anything by the end of June I'm going to contact them again and request they refund my money or send me the awardimmediately. LoTW is a great concept and saves a ton of money and time. However, I get the feeling that this program was not professionally layed out, implemented nor maintained by even the lowest standards. If they can't get their act together on developing a simple system to track confirmations of countries, states and grids for the enjoyment of it's membership, I would suggest abandoning it before it becomes the poster child for incompetent failure. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) amsat...@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:16 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite VUCC applications via LOTW Hi! Back in February, shortly after ARRL announced that the VUCC award would be supported in Logbook of the World, I uploaded my satellite QSOs to that system. I have since added other non-satellite QSOs, and have uploaded subsequent satellite QSOs (including the QSOs from the Sierra Vista AZ hamfest and my operating from the DM51/DM52 grid boundary last Saturday). On 8 February, I filed an application for a satellite VUCC award using the 103 grids I had credit for in LOTW. After 3 months and lots of face-to-face chats with my ARRL section manager and division director, along with e-mails to the LOTW help desk and other e-mails copied to several in the ARRL hierarchy, my VUCC application was cancelled yesterday. There have been problems in the migration of the VUCC award into the LOTW system, and my application was apparently a victim of those problems. Thankfully, the credit card I submitted with the application had not been charged - probably the only thing ARRL did right in the past 3 months with that (not charging it until the application was processed). I don't know the reason(s) why my application was cancelled, even after additional e-mails yesterday asking for more information. I was told that I could resubmit my VUCC application, now that the original application was cancelled. In the past 3 months, my grid count in LOTW went up 10, to 113. I filed my application, and waited. This time, the application was approved in 24 hours! When I log into LOTW now, I see that I have been awarded a satellite VUCC. Other than seeing what gets charged to my credit card for the new application, ensuring there is no charge for the cancelled application and getting the certificate in the mailbox, this is the way things should work when an application is filed through LOTW. The fees are another matter, but at least the process of getting a VUCC through LOTW appears to be finally working. Thanks to all of those who have been uploading satellite QSOs to the LOTW system. Many - like me - started in the last few months since the announcement that VUCC would be supported in LOTW. A few have been uploading satellite QSOs over the past few years. I'll wait and see if ARRL revisits the matter of the VUCC fees before I apply for an endorsement to my satellite VUCC (I have over 300 more grids I could add to it, using QSL cards), but for now I have a VUCC coming my way. I will continue uploading my satellite QSOs to LOTW, for those who want to use that to apply for or endorse a satellite VUCC. I know I could have applied for a satellite VUCC with QSL cards as far back as late 2006. I know I had accumulated enough cards for a VUCC back then. I put it off, thinking Why not wait until I have 125? Then 150, 175, 200, and so on into the 300s. Around the 350 mark, I decided to wait until I reached 400. By this point, it was about the time ARRL made its announcement about VUCC in LOTW along with the new fee structure. I decided to try the on-line application, instead of having to buy dinner for my local card checker as he went through my cards (especially if I filed the application with all the grids I have confirmed). I may still be on the hook for a lunch or dinner, if I write out an application to endorse my VUCC in the future. :-) 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings:
[amsat-bb] Re: KB5WIA / P in Death Valley Next Week (DM17, etc)
I didn't know they close down DVNP after Easter. I do know that the Furnace Creek Golf Course is open year 'round and you can have a round of golf in July on one of the cool 127 degree days. I believe proof of a will and testament is required before starting the round. :-) As for Mono Lake. If I recall correctly, that's where the Clint Eastwood movie High Plains Drifter was filmed as the fictious town of Lago. Hope you have a good time in the desert. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: David Palmer zda...@gmail.com; AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 3:24 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KB5WIA / P in Death Valley Next Week (DM17, etc) Wow, Dave, did you know that they close down DVNP after Easter for the rest of the summer? It can reach +125F or higher at Easter so be prepared with lots of water. I loved to visit Bodie and Scottie's Castle. I lived in Barstow 1971-1976. The desert was my playground with my old 66 GMC suburban V6. But been there, done that, and don't miss it! ;-) GL on the sats! 73, Ed - KL7UW At 09:13 AM 4/21/2011, David Palmer wrote: Hi Everyone, Early next week (April 25th) I'll be taking my brother on a tour of the remote backroads of Death Valley National Park, and I'll bring my portable satellite station along. This will primarily be a camping and sightseeing trip, but I'll try to be on a number of morning/evening passes of the linear and FM sats. My tentative plan for now is the following locations and grids: Sun pm / Mon am: Bodie ghost town or Mono Lake in DM08 on Sunday, Bishop area DM07 Monday. Mon pm / Tue am: Eureka Dunes in DM17 Tue pm / Wed am: Racetrack Playa in DM16 Wed pm / Thu am: Furnace Creek in DM16 My actual real-time location will be updated with the SPOT tracker, you can find the link on my QRZ page. 73 de Dave KB5WIA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ND9M
I second that Jim! ND9M/MM has made a great effort for those looking for an exciting satellite QSO or grids for their VUCC. Thanks a million Jim, ND9M/MM!! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Jim Adams jim9...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] ND9M I just wanted to say thank you to ND9M for all the contacts on grids out in the middle of the ocean. You taking time from work, on a ship to make satellite contacts is just amazing, and demonstrates the good in ham radio. YOU ROCK! Jim Adams - K0BAM Ridgway, Colorado ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO40 contacts
I didn't have a base satellite station when AO-40 was launched, and still don't have one now (really no need). However, it was amazing to copy AO-40's 2 meter telemetry when it was at apogee with just a simple 2 meter all mode rig, a 7 element beam pointed at the right diorection (no elevation control), no pre-amp and 45 feet of lossy RG-58 coax. At times it was a true S-4 on the meter. Since my antenna was linearly polarized, vertical, I could watch the signal dip a little as the bird was spinning. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: kc5...@swbell.net Cc: AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 contacts I was on AO-40 from its launch, initially running mode US, then mode LS (I bought one of the few DEMI 1268/144 Tx converters that were made). I made several contacts after I got my s-band downlink working. Initially, I was using too small an antenna and did not have a decent preamp. Once I graduated to the 85cm (33-inch) offsst feed dish and added a MKU-232 preamp, I was able to hear anyone. I spent a long time collecting telemetry and could do so out to a squint angle of 49-degrees. It really is a shame that there was no workaround for the battery issue or even run on solar panels like AO7. But this was before AO7 reawakened to provide that insight. I lived and waited long years for AO-40 and unfortunately wasted time I could have operated on AO-13. Now I have all the stuff needed to work a Heo and hardly anywhere to use it (I bought one of the early FT-847 just for AO-40). I would say a lot of the operators of the Heo years have gone away from satellite activity (some remain lurking on Amsat-bb wishing upon a star ...or a hope and a prayer). I will return, if Murphy will leave me alone long enough! But I mainly operate Oscar-Zero now days. 73, ED - KL7UW At 11:04 AM 2/3/2011, Floyd Rodgers wrote: Did anyone manage to bag any contacts off A040 before it's sad event? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-1.4kw*, 432-100w*, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == *temp not in service ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] W6RO QSL VUCC
Hi all, After making my submission to VUCC Satellite, yes it was still a go to get this award after the surprise fees were implemented. I was told by the local card checker that the W6RO, Queen Mary, QSL was not valid due to the fact that the grid, DM03, was not to be found anywhere on the card. After looking over the card myself again, he was correct. It had all of the QSO data and the information about the Queen mary but the DM03 grid was no where to be found. Not sure if anybody else had this problem with their checker, etc. but my card checker caught it very well. I never thought to look for the grid since most cards have them on it. So if you have a W6RO waiting to be submitted and it doesn't have the grid printed on it from the person filling out the QSL, don't bother sending it in, it will be considered invalid. Upon learning about this from my card checker, I dropped the organization who operates and maintains the W6RO station and told them the situation. Hopefully, they will include the grid square on their cards in the future. DM03 is not exactly an easy one to work since most of it is in water. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC Costs
Hi Gordon, What personal information does LoTW request that isn't listed on QRZ.com or buckmaster.com? Are they asking for more or different information from DX stations than from U.S. stations? 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:49 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC Costs On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 14:30 -0800, Jeff Yanko wrote: That's why I've been stressing the use of LoTW and it makes much more sense to pay 17.5 cents per QSO than pay nearly $3.00 for a piece of paper via the mail. I went to register with LoTW when I got my licence first, but I'm unhappy about the registration process which requires me to send a great deal of personal information to some random person in America. Gordon MM0YEQ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi all, Not sure is this was brought out into the open but I think it clarifies just about everything we've been questioning. http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCCRULE1a.pdf 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs
Hi John, It's funny how HQ never came out and stated there would be new fees beginning of the new year. Then again why would you want to scare away potential customers? In any case, I finally took my cards over to the local card checker to have him verify them for VUCC Satellite. My cost? $47.40. I understand it's a one time deal for the initial application, which this was, and there costs involved. Just the 20 cent per QSO fee cost me $27.40 alone. That's more than the award cost itself. Actually, more than twice of what the award cost. Doesn't make any economical or logical sense if you ask me. I don't believe I'll be doing many, if any, endorsements of VUCC at the current fees level. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Geiger aa...@fidmail.com To: mlolms...@fuse.net; Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org amsat-bb@amsat.org; 'VHF REFLECTOR' v...@w6yx.stanford.edu Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:07 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter VUCCs, but given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get an endorsement for an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this new insane fee schedule doesn't kill VUCC submissions. I think AMSAT awards will be getting much more popular. 73s John AA5JG - Original Message - From: mlolms...@fuse.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. However, I did not see what happens with LOTW submisions. If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer award insurance as well as equipment insurance. Just a thought. :) Merle, AA4QE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC Costs
Hi John, You're right about the costs. I just looked at the costs for a big HF mailing. I bought 25 - 98 cent air mail stamps for $24.50. Ordered $65 dollars in return postage stamps from Bill Plum. (IRC's don't seem to get a good return rate compared to return postage stamps. Plus the P.O. always seems to screw up the stamping of the IRC so it becomes invalid.) So for about $90 one can get 35 QSL's returned, if the other party co-operates. That's why I've been stressing the use of LoTW and it makes much more sense to pay 17.5 cents per QSO than pay nearly $3.00 for a piece of paper via the mail. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Papay j...@papays.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC Costs The new fee schedule has brought forth a lot of comments. Twenty cents a card seems like a lot of money but consider how much you spent to get that card. An SASE with a stamp on it plus the stamp for sending it here in the US costs you $.88. If you send for a DX card to countries other than Canada and Europe, it's $.98 for the postage and an IRC costs $2.10. If you are lucky, you will get a DX card back for $3.08. If you're not lucky, you'll send for it again hoping to get a reply. Then there's the cost of the cards to add in, maybe $.10 each, and the envelopes, hopefully self seal so the other guy doesn't have to spend time moistening and sealing it. Maybv So after you spent all that money to get the card, spending another $.20 to submit it for VUCC doesn't seem all that bad. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs
Hi John, At 16 cents per QSO LoTW VUCC fee is more affordable than what we are currently doing. Let me explain. Let's say you make 100 QSO's with 100 grids. Instead of sending out QSLs with SASE's at a total of 88 cents a piece, 44 cents to send and 44 cents for return, one QSO will cost you 16 cents. Period. So requesting QSL's via the P.O will cost you $88. A confirmation of the same 100 grids via LoTW will cost you $16. A savings of $72. Big difference. Now, the big problem. Getting those who operate the birds to upload their logs to LoTW. It won't work unless most participate, that's the sad part. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Geiger aa...@fidmail.com To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs Even at the 16 cent a QSO LOTW fee that sure is a jump up in price from what it used to be. I am afraid I won't be able to afford many endorsements. maybe AMSAT can offer their own version of a satellite VUCC. 73s John AA5JG - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net To: John Geiger aa...@fidmail.com; mlolms...@fuse.net; Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org amsat-bb@amsat.org; 'VHF REFLECTOR' v...@w6yx.stanford.edu Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs Hi John, It's funny how HQ never came out and stated there would be new fees beginning of the new year. Then again why would you want to scare away potential customers? In any case, I finally took my cards over to the local card checker to have him verify them for VUCC Satellite. My cost? $47.40. I understand it's a one time deal for the initial application, which this was, and there costs involved. Just the 20 cent per QSO fee cost me $27.40 alone. That's more than the award cost itself. Actually, more than twice of what the award cost. Doesn't make any economical or logical sense if you ask me. I don't believe I'll be doing many, if any, endorsements of VUCC at the current fees level. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Geiger aa...@fidmail.com To: mlolms...@fuse.net; Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org amsat-bb@amsat.org; 'VHF REFLECTOR' v...@w6yx.stanford.edu Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:07 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter VUCCs, but given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get an endorsement for an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this new insane fee schedule doesn't kill VUCC submissions. I think AMSAT awards will be getting much more popular. 73s John AA5JG - Original Message - From: mlolms...@fuse.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. However, I did not see what happens with LOTW submisions. If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer award insurance as well as equipment insurance. Just a thought. :) Merle, AA4QE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: help with pcsat32 - predictions wrong -e verything else is correct
Hi Zack and Mark, I had the same problem and was trying to figure it out myself. After prodding around it turned out to be #1 that Mark pointed out. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.com To: zach hillerson qstick...@yahoo.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: help with pcsat32 - predictions wrong -e verything else is correct Hi Zach, Couple quick things to check: 1--make sure you're using the same TLE file for both WinAOS and the regular part of SatPC32 2--make sure you go into Setup/Observer and get your lat/long, time zone, etc. correct I suspect it's one of those... 73! Mark N8MH At 05:07 PM 1/24/2011 -0800, zach hillerson wrote: I recently downloaded pcsat32 and find it pretty amazing. I have verified that the keps are current and the time and coordinates are all correct. The program also shows all of the sats that I track in the proper place. When i click the countdown, these times are correct as well. However, when i try to get a prediction through WinAOS, the times are off by approx. 15 minutes and the coordinates for the pass are wrong. I am comparing the satpc32 results to both amsat and satscape. Any ideas what might be causing this? I'd love to find a solution! Thanks, Zach KJ4ZVV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Rick, That's the way I'm interpreting it as well. For me, my fees would add up to nearly $50 for my initial application. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4...@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs Hi Jeff and the BB, I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following: $1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00 Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not. 73 all, Rick WA4NVM Hi all, I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance! 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi all, I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance! 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Zack and all, From the way I read it, it applies to the initial application as well as endorsements. It doesn't descriminate between them. BTW, for those looking and wondering as well. It states 20 cents per QSO, not 20 cents per grid. So if you have a QSO with multiple grids, say 2 grids or 4 grids, it still only cost 20 cents. Don't count the grids as a single QSO, unless the QSO was with a single grid. It'll save yourself a few cents. From the looks of it, my initial application could cost me nearly $50. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8...@hotmail.com To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs Hi Jeff, After you mentioned that, I went and took a look at the VUCC application (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf) and sure enough it says, enclose 20 cents per QSO (bottom of page). So, you send $12 for postage to get your award mailed to you, $7 for ARRL members or $12 for non-members for the award, 20 cents/QSO, and you also need to send along sufficient postage to get your QSL cards returned to you if you mail them to a card checker. I don't remember paying that much when I got mine. I wonder if this applies to endorsements?? 73! Zack KD8KSN -Original Message- From: Jeff Yanko Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:11 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs Hi all, I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance! 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi John and all, From what I recall with the old VUCC application it was discouraged to send cards to HQ and to use local card checkers for VUCC. With the new application it seems like they will accept cards at HQ for VUCC but there is a cost. However, it doesn't state what to do if you take them to a card checker? On Thursday, I had sent an e-mail to Bill Moore, head of the awards division at ARRL HQ, and haven't receive a reply back as of Saturday morning. In any case, we'll find out sooner or later. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8...@hotmail.com To: John Neeley w6...@att.net; Rick - WA4NVM wa4...@comcast.net; Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs Do you need to pay the card checker the $.20/QSO, or is that only if you send them directly to ARRL?? I agree with Rick - the wording is not very clear. Zack KD8KSN -Original Message- From: John Neeley Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:07 AM To: Rick - WA4NVM ; Jeff Yanko ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me... John W6ZKH #37184 From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4...@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs Hi Jeff and the BB, I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following: $1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00 Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not. 73 all, Rick WA4NVM Hi all, I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance! 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 40m EME (AMSAT 0)
Hi Bob and all! I recall there was a HAARP experiment in, or near the 40 meter band. If I recall correctly, Randy, K7AGE, had recorded it for a youtube segment. I foget the power and gain at the site, but it was no doubt impressive. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bob Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] 40m EME (AMSAT 0) Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: Re: em40 needed I misread this as something to do with 40m EME and got so distracted doing the calculations that I may as well post them. By my guess, if one could find an abandoned K mart parking lot with 160' spacing between light poles (about 30' high), one could hang 16 dipoles. If it was over GOOD swamp land, that might equal about 14 dB antenna gain. The path loss at 40m is 36 dB better than at UHF so the link would be about 0 dB SNR on a CW signal maybe. But from this one has to subtract a huge amount of noise on 40m. And it would only work at high elevations with really QUIET sun cycle. (you could point it with some phase adjustments)... But several dB of processing gain via DSP could bring it back up? These are only wild guesses. But it was fun. I'd love to see an expert's calculation just for the drill. Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: restating LOTW question
Has anybody contacted ARRL HQ to let them know SO-67 is out of the loop? I'm certain they can investigate and correct this. If not, then a suitable explanation would be required. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com To: amsat...@wd9ewk.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: restating LOTW question Patrick, If your approach is wrong that makes two of us :-) Last I checked no SO-67 -- I have no idea why! 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:21 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] restating LOTW question Hi! Thanks to those who have responded to my post when I made my first uploads to LOTW. I had asked about what mode I should use when uploading AO-16 QSOs, since that is a cross-mode satellite (that's how I worked it - FM up, SSB down). I have heard about what to set the BAND field, and N5JB's document makes it pretty clear that you use the band you transmit on for that field. I am not uploading fields beyond the 7 necessary to make a valid LOTW QSO record, so other fields like FREQ and FREQ_RX don't matter. My guess is that, if I follow the way the BAND field is handled for satellite QSOs in LOTW, I would use the mode I transmitted with for the MODE field. In the case of AO-16, that would be FM. N5JB's document mentions an additional field BAND_RX that some may use. I have not seen any mention of a MODE_RX field, but I will go with MODE as the mode from my transmitter unless I get some authoritative information to the contrary. I will proceed to uploading CJ7EWK QSOs from November 2008, and try to get all of my July 2010 VA7EWK QSOs - including those at the Canada/USA border - done tonight. Then the huge task of the WD9EWK QSOs. By the way, is SO-67 still a no-go in LOTW? 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: LoTW
Hi Bob, The old paper cards are nice, but the postage getting them where they need to go is getting out of hand and will likely get worse. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bob Herrell a...@cox.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Hi all, My logs are all current on LoTW. I am beginning to see new calls for my satellite contacts showing up. Still like them old fashion paper cards though. I will continue to upload every evening after the last pass. 73, Bob AJ5C ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Nanosail-D (what are we listening for???)
Keps for this object? Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Dave Taylor dave.w8...@verizon.net To: amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:01 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Nanosail-D (what are we listening for???) The mission dashboard page has links to the page for submitting packets and decoding, as well as keps: http://nanosaild.engr.scu.edu/dashboard.htm It's standard AX.25, like the other sats on that launch. -- Dave On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: I got 2 packets by the time I got everything figured out. Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Jan 19, 2011 6:24 PM, Bob Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu wrote: Would someone pass back to the FASTSAT and NANOSAT folks that they should tell us what we are listening for? AX.25? 1200 baud, 9600 baud? CW? What are we listening for? I just had an overhead pass, but by the time I went through all their web pages and links, I found NOTHING useful. By the time I gave up, and got back to the radio, I really missed the whole pass. Bob, Wb4APR -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb- boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:24 PM To: amsat Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: NanoSail-D Ejects; NASA Seeks Amateur Radio Operators' Aid to Listen for Beacon Signal For those interested... -- Dave, W8AAS -Original Message- RELEASE: 11-009 NANOSAIL-D EJECTS; NASA SEEKS AMATUER RADIO OPERATORS' AID TO LISTEN FOR BEACON SIGNAL HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Wednesday, Jan. 19 at 11:30 a.m. EST, engineers at Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., confirmed that the NanoSail-D nanosatellite ejected from Fast Affordable Scientific and Technology Satellite, FASTSAT. The ejection event occurred spontaneously and was identified this morning when engineers at the center analyzed onboard FASTSAT telemetry. The ejection of NanoSail-D also has been confirmed by ground-based satellite tracking assets. Amateur ham operators are asked to listen for the signal to verify NanoSail-D is operating. This information should be sent to the NanoSail-D dashboard at: http://nanosaild.engr.scu.edu/dashboard.htm . The NanoSail-D beacon signal can be found at 437.270 MHz. The NanoSail-D science team is hopeful the nanosatellite is healthy and can complete its solar sail mission. After ejection, a timer within NanoSail-D begins a three-day countdown as the satellite orbits the Earth. Once the timer reaches zero, four booms will quickly deploy and the NanoSail-D sail will start to unfold to a 100-square-foot polymer sail. Within five seconds the sail fully unfurls. This is great news for our team. We're anxious to hear the beacon which tells us that NanoSail-D is healthy and operating as planned, said Dean Alhorn, NanoSail-D principal investigator and aerospace engineer at the Marshall Center. The science team is hopeful to see that NanoSail-D is operational and will be able to unfurl its solar sail. On Dec. 6,, 2010, NASA triggered the planned ejection of NanoSail-D from FASTSAT. At that time, the team confirmed that the door successfully opened and data indicated a successful ejection. Upon further analysis, no evidence of NanoSail-D was identified in low-Earth orbit, leading the team to believe NanoSail-D remained inside FASTSAT. The FASTSAT mission has continued to operate as planned with the five other scientific experiments operating nominally. We knew that the door opened and it was possible that NanoSail-D could eject on its own, said Mark Boudreaux, FASTSAT project manager at the Marshall Center. What a pleasant surprise this morning when our flight operations team confirmed that NanoSail-D is now a free flyer. If the deployment is successful, NanoSail-D will stay in low-Earth orbit between 70 and 120 days, depending on atmospheric conditions. NanoSail-D is designed to demonstrate deployment of a compact solar sail boom system that could lead to further development of this alternative solar sail propulsion technology and FASTSAT's ability to eject a nano-satellite from a micro-satellite - while avoiding re-contact with the FASTSAT satellite bus. Follow the NanoSail-D mission operation on Twitter at: http://twitter.com/nanosaild For additional information on the timeline of the NanoSail-D deployment visit: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/501204main_NSD2_timeline_sequence.pdf To learn more about FASTSAT and the NanoSail-D missions visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/smallsats -end- News release http://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/news/news/releases/2011/11-009.html For releases sent directly to you, contact: betty.humph...@nasa.gov. Marshall Space Flight Center Public Affairs Department
[amsat-bb] Re: Nanosail-D (what are we listening for???)
Hi Dave! Thanks. I didn't check the AMSAT kep repository so I just asked out loud. I take it this object was launched from Alaska from the looks of the inclination. Thanks again! 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Dave Webb KB1PVH To: Jeff Yanko Cc: amsat ; Dave Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Nanosail-D (what are we listening for???) NANOSAILD 1 90027U 011019.40613897 +.3325 +0-0 +47680-3 0 00013 2 90027 071.9739 007.2360 0021785 203.3337 159.2085 14.7703891019 Not sure if they copied correctly on my phone. Dave- KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Jan 19, 2011 7:33 PM, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote: Keps for this object? Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Dave Taylor dave.w8...@verizon.net To: amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:01 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Nanosail-D (what are we listening for???) The mission dashboard page has links to the page for submitting packets and decoding, as well as keps: http://nanosaild.engr.scu.edu/dashboard.htm It's standard AX.25, like the other sats on that launch. -- Dave On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote: I got 2 packets by the time I got everything figured out. Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On Jan 19, 2011 6:24 PM, Bob Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu wrote: Would someone pass back to the FASTSAT and NANOSAT folks that they should tell us what we are listening for? AX.25? 1200 baud, 9600 baud? CW? What are we listening for? I just had an overhead pass, but by the time I went through all their web pages and links, I found NOTHING useful. By the time I gave up, and got back to the radio, I really missed the whole pass. Bob, Wb4APR -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb- boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:24 PM To: amsat Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: NanoSail-D Ejects; NASA Seeks Amateur Radio Operators' Aid to Listen for Beacon Signal For those interested... -- Dave, W8AAS -Original Message- RELEASE: 11-009 NANOSAIL-D EJECTS; NASA SEEKS AMATUER RADIO OPERATORS' AID TO LISTEN FOR BEACON SIGNAL HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Wednesday, Jan. 19 at 11:30 a.m. EST, engineers at Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., confirmed that the NanoSail-D nanosatellite ejected from Fast Affordable Scientific and Technology Satellite, FASTSAT. The ejection event occurred spontaneously and was identified this morning when engineers at the center analyzed onboard FASTSAT telemetry. The ejection of NanoSail-D also has been confirmed by ground-based satellite tracking assets. Amateur ham operators are asked to listen for the signal to verify NanoSail-D is operating. This information should be sent to the NanoSail-D dashboard at: http://nanosaild.engr.scu.edu/dashboard.htm . The NanoSail-D beacon signal can be found at 437.270 MHz. The NanoSail-D science team is hopeful the nanosatellite is healthy and can complete its solar sail mission. After ejection, a timer within NanoSail-D begins a three-day countdown as the satellite orbits the Earth. Once the timer reaches zero, four booms will quickly deploy and the NanoSail-D sail will start to unfold to a 100-square-foot polymer sail. Within five seconds the sail fully unfurls. This is great news for our team. We're anxious to hear the beacon which tells us that NanoSail-D is healthy and operating as planned, said Dean Alhorn, NanoSail-D principal investigator and aerospace engineer at the Marshall Center. The science team is hopeful to see that NanoSail-D is operational and will be able to unfurl its solar sail. On Dec. 6,, 2010, NASA triggered the planned ejection of NanoSail-D from FASTSAT. At that time, the team confirmed that the door successfully opened and data indicated a successful ejection. Upon further analysis, no evidence of NanoSail-D was identified in low-Earth orbit, leading the team to believe NanoSail-D remained inside FASTSAT. The FASTSAT mission has continued to operate as planned with the five other scientific experiments operating nominally. We knew that the door opened and it was possible that NanoSail-D could eject on its own, said Mark Boudreaux, FASTSAT project manager at the Marshall Center. What a pleasant surprise this morning when our flight operations team confirmed that NanoSail-D is now a free flyer. If the deployment
[amsat-bb] High speed High def video
Hi all, A couple weeks ago, somebody posted the link to the YouTube video of the space shuttle launch by the high speed and high def cameras. Could somebody please pass the link along since I have misplaced it. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: VUCC LoTW
Hi Ted and all, I got the LoTW VUCC set up without a problem. I had already uploaded 545 satellite QSOs over the past couple of years so they were waiting to be used. Well, after getting everything in order I have a grand total of.21 matches, or 3.85% of my satellite log. With LoTW VUCC now active it will hopefully get those with electronic logging to upload their satellite QSO's, even better, to get those with paper logs to convert to electronic logging, go back and enter QSO's from the previous couple years, to take advantage of this service. After seeing this disappointing results, I know we, in the Amateur Satellite community, can do better. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV - Original Message - From: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net To: 'Ted' k7trkra...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC LoTW Boy, after playing with this on LOTW, we may need an 'owners manual'. I created a 'VUCC Satellite' account and uploaded my entire HRD Logbook: Prior to the upload, I added a 'propagation' field to the log and did a bulk edit to add 'sat' to each FM contact in my log (you can choose another field to search, but since I don't log anything on FM other than the sats that works for me). Uploaded the log to LOTW. Nothing shows under the 'VUCC Satellite' account. (note: when I created just a pure VUCC account, several contacts showed up as FM contacts) So, Im guessing we need to find out which ADIF fields are necessary in a log upload to make the LOTW happy... THAT is above my pay grade, so I hope to see some good answers from the group when I wake up tomorrow.. 73, Ted, K7TRK FYI.from LoTW site: Jan 13, 2011: VUCC award support is now live -- Under the Awards tab you will find a VUCC button. The VUCC http://www.arrl.org/vucc is ARRL's award recognizing VHF, UHF, and SHF work and counts Maidenhead grid squares. Is this a good thing or ??? do we need to set up anything different in an HRD Logbook to make this work ?? questions, questions.. 73, Ted K7TRK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Historic NASA Audio
Hi all, The actual lawsuit was thrown out by the Supreme Court over the lack of jurisdiction. It appears that since the spaceship, and it's occupants were government property, they exceeded the territorial limits of the jurisdiction of the US and what they crew members said and did were beyond control of the US and the constitution. Technically, they could've read the Seven Dirty Words and the most that could happen to them would be expelled from the space proram. Yet, the only illegal activity that could've taken place onboard the spaceship that would hold up in a military or civil court was a mutiny, basically pirating from within. It appears that the word Ship is covered no matter where it is located. So a spaceship 200,000 miles from earth can not be mutinied wthout punishment, yet you can swear until you turn blue without repurcussion. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Rick Tejera saguaroas...@cox.net To: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org; ARISS-ops OPS ariss-...@amsat.org Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Historic NASA Audio That broadcast generated a bit of controversy as well. NASA was sued by Madalyn Murray O'Hare, an athiest, for mixing religion on what was essentially a govt. Run operation. Nothing came of it, except an increased paranoia within NASA about what was said over the air. BTW, the voices were in order: CDR Frank Borman, CMP Jim Lovell and LMP Bill Anders. 73 and a Merry Christmas to all! Sent from my iPod Rick Tejera Editor, SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org K7TEJ On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:42, Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com wrote: The famous 1968 NASA telecast recalls the first public, voice-over-radio broadcast, also on Christmas Eve. ttp://tinyurl.com/nasa-1968 Clint, K6LCS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
Hi Patrick and all, Seems the TH-D72A is pretty much a replica of the TH-D7(A) with some minor modifications. One word of caution on spliting the audio at the HT. DON'T DO IT. Let me explain. I have the TH-D7(A) and used a plug adaptor to go from the 1/10, 2.5mm, recepticle to 1/4 for the headphones. Everything worked great, for about a year, then I noticed the audio was cutting in and out. Turns out the weight of the adaptor and sometimes I used a splitter to record, made the contact very poor. Now if I plug in the HMC-3 head set there isn't a problem since the two plug system, Speaker-Mic jack, holds and maintains the connection very well. If I go back to the single audio out plug, the problem resurfaces. What you could possibly do is find and solder a 1/10, 2.5mm, plug to a wire then run a couple feet to the splitter so there will be little or no weight on the recepticle at the HT. Figured I'd save others from a headache. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) amsat...@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites Hi Bob! I, too, have been considering retiring my TH-D7A(G), and you just sold me on the new Kenwood after our contact on AO-51. Sounded great. Several commented on my audio during the two passes I worked, as well as selling them on the new radio. If a bunch of D7s show up for sale, maybe a few of them will end up in the hands of those interested in working satellites. Ordered mine from HRO a few minutes ago. Also got the drop in charger. Since they changed battery to a Li-ion, the D7A charger (NiCad) will not work. Hope these new batteries last longer than the old NiCad's. Do you have a drop-in or fast charger for your D7? I think the wall-wart charged my battery in 4 or 5 hours on Saturday night. The battery had a partial charge in it, enough to power on the radio and perform a full reset before letting it charge fully. I haven't looked at the model numbers for all the accessories closely, since so few of them are in the stores now. I'll get some of them as they arrive in the stores on the slow boat from Japan. I have an old Kenwood speaker/mic, and the external power cables are the same as for the TH-F6A and TH-D7 (among others), so I had all the accessories I could get for the radio right now. I didn't use the speaker/mic yesterday; I used the mic on the face of the radio, and plugged my audio splitter (including adapter to step down from the 3.5mm plug on the splitter to the 2.5mm speaker jack on the HT) with earpiece and audio recorder into the speaker jack. I've read the other posts on this thread, and I will take a look at the DUP setting when I get home tonight. It is possible that the way I had it set up (transmit on VFO B, receive on VFO A) is the only way it works on the D72. If that is the case, then Kenwood did it right by their choice of VFO A having to be the receiver when in DUP mode. VFO A is more sensitive than VFO B. Being able to use the joystick-like 4-way control button on the face of the radio to tune up and down made it easy to make the adjustments on the receive VFO, without having to use the knob on the top of the radio (press A/B to switch VFOs, then press down on the joystick button to move down 5 kHz, then A/B again to get back to VFO B before transmitting - all done with the thumb that also pressed the PTT on the side of the radio). Packet in general, as well as looking at the APRS functionality beyond simply transmitting my location, will be something I take a closer look at some other time in the near future. I apologize if I appear to be going into too much detail on what I've done in setting up the radio before I went on the air with it yesterday. I'm coming at it as someone who hasn't used Kenwood HTs in at least 15 years until the past few weeks when I bought a TH-F6A, and no experience with the TH-D7. If you know the TH-D7, you'll be able to get running quickly with a TH-D72. The manual would still be a useful read for those people, to learn about the new functionality in the TH-D72. For those interested in reading the manuals without shelling out cash first, Kenwood has a good download site for instruction manuals of its ham gear: http://manual.kenwood.com/en_contents/search/ Just enter TH-D72, and you will see two sets of links. The first set are for the PDF version of the printed manual supplied with the radio, in several different languages. The other links that have CDROM in the description are for the detailed manual that is supplied on a CD with the radio. For software used with the radio (virtual COM port driver, along with the Memory Control Program) along with software for other Kenwood radios, go to: http://www.kenwood.co.jp/i/products/info/amateur/software_download.html I haven't looked on the CD that came with my
[amsat-bb] (UPDATE): Odd split setup on TM-D710
Hi all, As I promised, I want to update this situation with those who had sent along their suggestions and ideas when I posted my problem here a few weeks ago. I want to thank you all. After looking at the situation and setup, I decided it would be best to use the MCP program provided free from Kenwood. I attempted to load the software but found out I needed to have a .net framework of 2.0 or greater. I went to the Microsoft website and upgraded and it took me to the latest version of 3.5. I was able to load the software without a problem, but immediately found another problem with the hardware. The PC connection on the TM-D710 uses a 8 pin mini DIN connector. I could not find one anywhere near me. I went on ebay and bought a 6 foot cable with both ends capped with male 8 pin mini DIN's for a few dollars and a couple more for shipping. A couple weeks have gone by since I got all of the items I needed to make the connection but didn't work on it until Thanksgiving Day. After eating Thanksgiving dinner, I immediately proceeded to work on the transformation of the cable. No, the Tryptophan in the turkey never seems to make me sleepy. :) I cut the 6 foot cable in half so if I need another cable with a 8 pin mini DIN, I will have it. I checked the pinouts for the connectors, the 8 pin Mini DIN and the DB9, then ohmed the wires to see which one was which. I soldered the connections and completed the DB9 with a shell and connected the TM-D710 to the laptop. The program read the radio and was communicating with it as well. I setup the frequencies and saved them to memory and checked it out. All is working well and will just have to wait for Col. Wheelock to show up. :) Thanks again to all for their inputs. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] OT: Magellan Meridian Gold and APRS
Hi all, Somewhat a bit off topic to the birds but has anybody successfully combined a Magellan Meridian Gold GPS unit to a VHF transceiver? If so, please contact me off -BB. BTW, a couple weeks ago I was in the midst of trying to get the TM-D710A working with an odd split frequency, the ISS uplink/downlink to be more specific. I'm still in the process of working on that and should have favorable results soon. I'll keep you posted on that as well. Just wish I had more time on my hands. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Odd Split setup on TM-D710
Hi all, I have a TM-D710 that I use for various communications, including satellites. However, I am having one heck of a time trying to get it setup so that I can at least make an attempt to work NA1SS, the space station. It uses an odd split frequency scheme but I haven't been able to set it up for such a split. I follow the instructions in the manual and still to no avail, so I'm pretty sure I know I'm getting it wrong. Please contact me off -bb and any help will be greatly appreciated. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ND9M Road Trip
Good Afternoon to all on the -bb! Thanks to Jim, ND9M, and his XYL, Cory (spelling?) for a fine exhibition of activating such a high number of grids for those of us to work. I managed to work 35 new grids and 1 new state from this GriDXpedition and am very pleased. I could have managed to work about 10 or more grids at the beginning of this event but timing issues on my end interfered with the passes. As stated on another post, it really made looking forward to the afternoon and evening passes of the birds knowing Jim would be on from a new grid, or grids, if standing on the lines. There were times the birds were really crowded but Jim managed to work who and what he could and making the best of any situation. Thank you again Jim and Cory! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4...@comcast.net To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:24 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ND9M Road Trip GM all bird watchers (or is that workers), I just wanted to say a BIG THANKS to Jim and Cori for their satellite road trip. I think they are home by now, or maybe today. I just can't wait to see the write up and some of the pictures from their trip. I think they were on the road for 48 days! Thousands of miles and dollars spent just to give the rest of us new grid squares. And if you were lucky enough to work all of the grids, it would almost give you a VUCC in less than two months. Thanks again from all of us. I can't imagine the writer's cramp from all of those QSL cards. Hi Hi 73 all, Rick WA4NVM ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Planet Pseudo-Keps
Hi Bob, You are correct on the term planets being wonderers. If I recall correctly, that came from the Greek skywatchers. Yes, many thought the Earth was the center of the solar system. I'm sure more believed it was the center of the universe as well! In any case, with the Sun as the center of the solar system, that was some wild outside of the box thinking since the church frowned upon any type of new findings that disputed what the church layed down. Can you imagine being ostracized, if nothing more serious, in stating and believing that the Sun, not the Earth, was the center of the solar system? WOW! You'd be excommunicated and strung up. Since the planets revolve around the Sun ,and not the Earth, there can't be any Keps. Keps are based on the Earth being the center of an orbiting object. I should've recalled that. However, my thinking at the time was if there are programs which display where to find planets in the sky, like Starry Night, then there'd have to be a form of calculation to determine it. I just thought of using the wrong type of calculation. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:31 AM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Planet Pseudo-Keps Are there any pseudo-keps for the planets? Actually, the word planet comes from the meaning wanderers because that is what stumped the early astronomers thousands of years ago. They do not have regular motion about Earth... And Copernicus finally figured it out... They rotate around the sun. Bob ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Planet Pseudo-Keps
A few weeks ago somebody posted pseudo-keps to the -bb and from the looks of the queries and comments, many have installed them on their tracking programs. Which brings to question. Are there any pseudo-keps for the planets? 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Plastic weatherproof box
Hi all, I'm in a project which needs plastic weatherproof box. No holes in the box would be ok since I can drill them, run the cables then seal it very well. Looking for 10x10x4, 12x12x4. I've checked Home Depot and they have nothing. Does anybody know would might carry such an item? You can contact me off -bb. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Thanks to the travelers
Tim and all: Same goes for me. During these economically challanging and uncertain times it's nice to see people taking the time, money and effort to not only enjoy their hobby but also make it enjoyable for others as well. Thanks again Jim, ND9M, and Patrick, WD9EWK! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Tim - N3TL n...@bellsouth.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Thanks to the travelers Thanks to Jim, ND9M, and Patrick, WD9WEK, for taking the time and making the effort to activate so many grid for satellite operators. Many of the grids they've worked passes from are fairly rare. Thank again guys, Safe travels! 73, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: NASA - Pluto Images
And to think, there are those who knocked Pluto out of planet status to dwarf planet status and there are those who are still unhappy with that and want to knock it lower, or completely off the list. Great photos, though details aren't sharp, I'm sure when New Horizons arrives it will provide sharp details and new information. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA - Pluto Images NASA releases most detailed photos of Pluto ever ... http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/science/pluto-20100204.html Clint ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Best dualband FM rigs
The Kenwood TM-D710 does very well. And if not on the birds, APRS and Packet either in-band or cross-band. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Geiger aa...@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Best dualband FM rigs What are considered the best dualband FM rigs for working the mode J FM sats-like AO27, SO50, and AO51? Which hear the birds the best on 70cm FM? 73s John AA5JG ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Best dualband FM rigs
Hi Dave, I believe that is a Kenwood, Not Yaesu. :) 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: n4csi...@bellsouth.net To: w6...@comcast.net; John Geiger aa...@yahoo.com Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:08 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Best dualband FM rigs One of the new rigs was the Yaseu TH-D7A. I use this and it works very well. They are no longer produced, but you occasionally see one posted here on the BB and on ebay. There was one on here just a few days ago. You have to move fast on them since they are very popular. Dave, AA4KN - Original Message - From: w6...@comcast.net To: John Geiger aa...@yahoo.com Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Best dualband FM rigs My old Kenwood TM-731A seems to work fine; has 2 antenna ports, so either seperate 2m or 70cm antennas or get a diplexer. +35 watts out. I am sure there are newer rigs, but cant complain about this old critter. John W6ZKH - Original Message - From: John Geiger aa...@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:40:24 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Best dualband FM rigs What are considered the best dualband FM rigs for working the mode J FM sats-like AO27, SO50, and AO51? Which hear the birds the best on 70cm FM? 73s John AA5JG ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: One year on the birds
Hi David and all, At 9 months and 21 days on the birds I'm a little short of an anniversary, however, it is fun and getting better! I bought most of the equipment in 2008 with intentions of getting on rather quickly. Being busy and other time consuming projects pushed my on air time back each and every week until after 2009 arrived. Still having things pop up now and then I finally managed to get on the birds March 10, 2009, my birthday. After waiting so long I deliberately set that date to get on the birds so I could justify it. :) Anyhow, the ISS was running hot and heavy and I figured this would be a good chance to try things out. My first contact was N6RSX, Craig, through the ISS repeater. WOW! Was I hooked! In this amount of time I've managed to work 124 grids, 35 states and 4 DXCC countries strictly through the FM birds, AO-27, SO-50 and AO-51. All of the people I've worked through the birds, and communicated on the -bb, have been helpful and great elmers as well as providers of new grids and states. All of the contacts I've made, and continue to make, are from outside the house in the backyard, or on some occasions the front porch for some low westerly passes. Being in Las Vegas, NV, the extreme temperature swings from the summers 115 degree days to the winters 50 degree days, and much cooler nights, can bring challanges, but doesn't sway me from having fun with the birds and other operators associated with them. David, you bring up a good point about the clipboard and trying to do what appears to be 4 things at once. I've managed to cut down on the fumbling around and make things more efficient than when I first started out. I still need to take care of a couple more rough edges and things will be much better on my end. There's always room for improvement. :) To everybody here on the -bb and AMSATHappy New Year! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: David Wing da...@cdwing.com To: 'Amsat -bb' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] One year on the birds My first contact on satellite was 29-Dec-08 via AO-51 and the QSO was appropriately with Clint Bradford, K6LCS. It is appropriate that it was with Clint because Clint is the one that sparked my interest in working satellites. I remember reading about amateur radio satellites in my Technician exam preparation book where it was discussing the various forms of amateur radio. I also distinctly remember the impression that the author said working satellites was challenging and not easy to do. Along comes Clint to do a demo at one of the PAPA System monthly breakfasts with his Arrow II and an HT and showed just how easy it can be. At that point I was intrigued enough to put an Arrow II on my Christmas wish list and a few days after Christmas, I got myself on AO-51. I remember that first pass seemed very busy but Clint and I had pre-arranged to work it and having that successful contact fanned the fire. The next morning I got up early and drove over to a local hill with no trees and buildings so that I could work an early morning easterly pass of AO-51. I easily worked N9AMW, K8YSE and K9QHO and I would say that it was that pass that firmly implanted the satellite bug because that day I started designing an easy to use log sheet to keep track of AOS, Max El, LOS, call signs, etc. Trying to hold the antenna, a clipboard/pen and radio while tracking AO-51 in the sky, making QSOs and logging call signs, times and grid squares must have looked pretty comical for the neighbors, but I never even noticed. I added a clipboard lamp, a little digital clock and figured a way to mount the antenna and radio on a tripod. This made things a lot easier but it was still a chore to set up.plus now that I was not totally consumed in all I had to do, I was noticing neighbors with raised eyebrows as I set-up in the driveway. From that early start I graduated to a gable-mounted G-5500 with my Arrow II and SatPC32.now I could operate from the comfort and privacy of my indoor shack (and yes, there have been many early morning passes worked while in a bathrobe). This past Thanksgiving I finally got a short rooftop tower with high gain antennas and polarity switches. What a world of difference! SO-50 is like a whole new satellite! After year 1, I have 1500+ QSOs, 130+ unique grid squares and I'm still hunting for my last five states. I've made several friends that I QSO with regularly, sometimes multiple times in a day. I've enjoyed working the new birds SO-67 and HO-68, unusual modes like AO-51 SSB/FM and I'm working to get my S-Band set-up working and a couple of 70cm helix antennas built and put into use (thanks to Mike/K9QHO for the info and encouragement). Happy New Year to everyone and hope to work you on the birds sometime! 73 David K6CDW
[amsat-bb] Re: HD TV Noise
Hi Harvey, Plasma is the worse for noise. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: H. Vordenbaum tow...@stx.rr.com To: AmsatBB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:34 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] HD TV Noise Are there any ideas on which HD TV systems generate the least R.F. noise; Plasma vs. LCD vs LCD/LED ? I am interested since I am contemplating getting a fairly large screen HD TV in the near future and am wondering if it will raise the RF noise floor significantly around the house. The input would be from Time-Warner cable. There's already some noise birdies from various computers and internet in my scanners, etc. 73, Harvey K5HV ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] AO-51
I recall Andrew mentioning that AO-51 had a software crash and he was in the process of reloading it. Just wondering if it's back up yet? And Merry Christmas to all! 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] XW-1 Footprint
If my numbers are correct, this bird is certainly much higher than AO-27 and AO-51. At an orbit 800 miles above earth, this will stretch the footprint a bit further east for those needing KH6 on the birds. Let's hope for more activity from KH6! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-40 status
Hi John, I would say it's pretty much dead. It's just the fact nobody wants to play taps. Many, including myself, would just love to have it magically re-appear and work like nothing ever happened. Unfortunately, I don't see this occuring. I can't seem to recall if there ever was an official bulletin indicating that AO-40 is indeed dead. If it hasn't, it should be, so we can focus on current and future projects. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-40 status Is there any thing going on with AO-40 such as a change in it's status? It sure was fun working it. John, W0JAB ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] ISS
Hi all, Just has the opportunity to view the ISS and shuttle, tagging along over Las Vegas, NV. The shuttle was trailing approximately 22 seconds behind the ISS. Now to calculate the distance. ;-) 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Thank you
Hi group, Though I thanked the participants of the survey in the initial release of the survey, I did not mention them by call, and I should have, since they helped create since a perspective view of the grids we are in search of. There were a total of 15 replies, including myself. Thanks again! N5AFV XE2AT K6YK N1AIA K0TW K8YSE WA8SME N3TL KI6YAA AA5PK KB0RZD WA4NVM K6CDW KD8CAO 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Top 250 Grid Survey - Results
Hi John and the group, Your welcome and I'm glad you like the compilation. Just don't tell the XYL why your taking her on a second vacation. :) I will have to second your motion about working portable stations, HT stations or new operator to show their effort wasn't in vein. I would also like to suggest for those who do, or plan to, operate from rare grids to make a post to the -bb here so those who might need it can be aware of the fact your going to be there operating. Sometimes schedules don't always mesh but at least there was the effort. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: w6...@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko Cc: amsat-bb Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Results Jeff, thanks for all your efforts in compiling all this data. I am sure it will give me some more ideas on where to drag the xyl for vacation again, like this year. I agree in Rick's (WA4NVM) saying what it is to be out wagging that yagi in the dark. Anytime you hear a Portable or Handheld station, please make an effort to contact, as it could be a rare grid or a new op. John W6ZKH - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:26:04 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Results Hi all, I want to thank all of those who took the time out to contribute their grid data so I could try to compose a list of the most wanted, or needed, grid squares via the satellites for the continental United States with some Canadian and Mexico grids thrown in as well. I initially started out with the total 250, 10 grid fields times the 25 most needed grid squares per field, hence 250. I should've taken into account that grid fields like CM and FM aren't fully land mass enough to give a full 25 grids so it looks like the 250 will become the top 230. In any case, the data was very useful and informative. I believe many will see what grids are outstanding in need of activation. Since I did not receive any more entries since Thursday, 11/12, I already had a running tally of the totals as I was receiving them and was waiting for more to come in by the deadline of 11/14. None did, so I was able to cap this project about a day ahead of schedule. I hope everybody enjoys the data and can possibly use it in the future if they plan on traveling, visting relatives, or just going on a GridDXpedition. I broke down the grid fields by the most votes then proceeded to seperately post the grid squares of each field by their votes, highest to lowest. The layout is rather long but since this is just basic data I wanted to keep it simple and left justified to keep it clear. Printing it out may make it easier to read or comprehend since you won't be looking at just a portion of the data on the screen but a print out on paper layed out on the table. If you have a questions, comments or just plain curious, please feel free to drop me an e-mail. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 GRID FIELD TALLY: DN - 469 EN - 322 DM - 308 EM - 213 EL - 173 CN - 172 FN - 127 DL - 90 FM - 63 CM - 39 ///CN/// 9 VOTES CN70 CN72 CN73 CN98 8 VOTES CN71 CN77 CN78 CN90 CN91 CN93 CN96 7 VOTES CN74 CN80 CN81 CN82 CN92 CN99 6 VOTES CN94 5 VOTES CN75 CN83 4 VOTES CN76 CN95 CN97 2 VOTES CN85 CN86 ///DN/// 10 VOTES DN02 9 VOTES DN03 DN10 DN37 8 VOTES DN04 DN12 DN21 DN75 7 VOTES DN05 DN11 DN24 DN60 DN62 DN67 DN68 DN73 DN77 DN78 6 VOTES DN07 DN19 DN20 DN25 DN28 DN29 DN34 ///EN/// 8 VOTES EN48 7 VOTES EN08 6 VOTES EN01 EN02 EN10 EN12 EN13 EN17 EN24 EN36 EN46 EN47 5 VOTES EN03 EN05 EN07 EN16 EN33 EN40 EN49 EN58 EN66 EN67 4 VOTES EN09 EN15 ///FN/// 5 VOTES FN24 FN55 3 VOTES FN06 FN14 FN17 FN23 FN27 FN28 FN37 FN38 FN45 FN48 FN53 FN56 FN64 2 VOTES FN02 FN05 FN07 FN08 FN09 FN11 FN12 FN15 FN16 FN19 ///CM/// 8 VOTES CM89 5 VOTES CM94 CM95 4 VOTES CM86 3 VOTES CM79 CM93 CM96 CM99 2 VOTES CM88 CM98 1 VOTE CM97 ///DM/// 10 VOTES DM 28 DM29 9 VOTES DM17 DM18 8 VOTES DM16 DM83 7 VOTES DM27 DM71 DM77 DM81 6 VOTES DM60 DM64 DM70 DM82 DM88 DM89 DM93 5 VOTES DM07 DM19 DM50 DM67 DM68 DM74 DM76 DM84 ///EM/// 6 VOTES EM33 5 VOTES EM03 EM23 EM62 4 VOTES EM16 EM21 EM47 EM50 EM53 EM59 EM81 3 VOTES EM00 EM02 EM06 EM07 EM08 EM19 EM20 EM22 EM24 EM41 EM43 EM52 EM61 EM71 ///FM/// 5 VOTES FM08 FM26 FM27 4 VOTES FM02 FM03 FM13 FM15
[amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Results
Hi all, I want to thank all of those who took the time out to contribute their grid data so I could try to compose a list of the most wanted, or needed, grid squares via the satellites for the continental United States with some Canadian and Mexico grids thrown in as well. I initially started out with the total 250, 10 grid fields times the 25 most needed grid squares per field, hence 250. I should've taken into account that grid fields like CM and FM aren't fully land mass enough to give a full 25 grids so it looks like the 250 will become the top 230. In any case, the data was very useful and informative. I believe many will see what grids are outstanding in need of activation. Since I did not receive any more entries since Thursday, 11/12, I already had a running tally of the totals as I was receiving them and was waiting for more to come in by the deadline of 11/14. None did, so I was able to cap this project about a day ahead of schedule. I hope everybody enjoys the data and can possibly use it in the future if they plan on traveling, visting relatives, or just going on a GridDXpedition. I broke down the grid fields by the most votes then proceeded to seperately post the grid squares of each field by their votes, highest to lowest. The layout is rather long but since this is just basic data I wanted to keep it simple and left justified to keep it clear. Printing it out may make it easier to read or comprehend since you won't be looking at just a portion of the data on the screen but a print out on paper layed out on the table. If you have a questions, comments or just plain curious, please feel free to drop me an e-mail. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 GRID FIELD TALLY: DN - 469 EN - 322 DM - 308 EM - 213 EL - 173 CN - 172 FN - 127 DL - 90 FM - 63 CM - 39 ///CN/// 9 VOTES CN70 CN72 CN73 CN98 8 VOTES CN71 CN77 CN78 CN90 CN91 CN93 CN96 7 VOTES CN74 CN80 CN81 CN82 CN92 CN99 6 VOTES CN94 5 VOTES CN75 CN83 4 VOTES CN76 CN95 CN97 2 VOTES CN85 CN86 ///DN/// 10 VOTES DN02 9 VOTES DN03 DN10 DN37 8 VOTES DN04 DN12 DN21 DN75 7 VOTES DN05 DN11 DN24 DN60 DN62 DN67 DN68 DN73 DN77 DN78 6 VOTES DN07 DN19 DN20 DN25 DN28 DN29 DN34 ///EN/// 8 VOTES EN48 7 VOTES EN08 6 VOTES EN01 EN02 EN10 EN12 EN13 EN17 EN24 EN36 EN46 EN47 5 VOTES EN03 EN05 EN07 EN16 EN33 EN40 EN49 EN58 EN66 EN67 4 VOTES EN09 EN15 ///FN/// 5 VOTES FN24 FN55 3 VOTES FN06 FN14 FN17 FN23 FN27 FN28 FN37 FN38 FN45 FN48 FN53 FN56 FN64 2 VOTES FN02 FN05 FN07 FN08 FN09 FN11 FN12 FN15 FN16 FN19 ///CM/// 8 VOTES CM89 5 VOTES CM94 CM95 4 VOTES CM86 3 VOTES CM79 CM93 CM96 CM99 2 VOTES CM88 CM98 1 VOTE CM97 ///DM/// 10 VOTES DM 28 DM29 9 VOTES DM17 DM18 8 VOTES DM16 DM83 7 VOTES DM27 DM71 DM77 DM81 6 VOTES DM60 DM64 DM70 DM82 DM88 DM89 DM93 5 VOTES DM07 DM19 DM50 DM67 DM68 DM74 DM76 DM84 ///EM/// 6 VOTES EM33 5 VOTES EM03 EM23 EM62 4 VOTES EM16 EM21 EM47 EM50 EM53 EM59 EM81 3 VOTES EM00 EM02 EM06 EM07 EM08 EM19 EM20 EM22 EM24 EM41 EM43 EM52 EM61 EM71 ///FM/// 5 VOTES FM08 FM26 FM27 4 VOTES FM02 FM03 FM13 FM15 FM16 FM25 3 VOTES FM04 FM05 FM06 FM14 FM17 2 VOTES FM07 FM09 FM18 1 VOTE FM19 FM39 ///DL/// 5 VOTES DL79 DL88 DL89 4 VOTES DL59 DL69 3 VOTES DL29 DL39 DL58 DL66 DL67 DL98 2 VOTES DL27 DL36 DL37 DL38 DL43 DL45 DL46 DL48 DL53 DL56 DL57 DL65 DL68 ///EL/// 11 VOTES EL08 7 VOTES EL17 EL49 6 VOTES EL07 EL16 EL18 EL59 5 VOTES EL06 EL09 EL19 EL39 4 VOTES EL00 EL10 EL11 EL14 EL15 EL28 EL89 EL94 3 VOTES EL04 EL13 EL40 EL41 EL84 EL86 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LAST REMINDER!! Survey: Top 250 grids
Hi all! With a little more than 3 days to go for the deadline, 11/14/09, I just wanted to send out a last reminder for those who haven't submitted to me their most wanted grids. I am undertaking a task to get a better reading on what grids are outstanding in need of activation. I am looking at obtaining the top 25 grids from the predominately 10 grid fields covering the U.S., Canada and Mexico, for the total of 250 grids. Yes, most of these grids will be in the U.S., however, I'm sure there will be some mention of VE and XE grids as well. What I would like everybody to do is take some time and look at your grid map and write down 25 grids from each of the grid fields that cover the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Those grid fields are: CN, DN, EN, FN, CM, DM, EM, FM, DL, EL. If you don't need at least 25 grids from a particular grid field, no problem, just enter those you still need. Example. Let's say you only need three grids from DM, they are DM74, 75, 76. Just enter those three. To make things simple and easy I will give an example of how the data can be entered and e-mailed to me. Here is an example. CN 79, 82, 93, 95, 99 DN 02, 03, 07, 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 24, 25, 34, 37, 38 As you can see, it's relatively easy, and very easy if you've kept up on your grid map. :) A couple of notices. 1. Please, do not send any water grids since any operation from them is sporadic and most cases, impracticle to activate for most of us. 2. Please send your data to me via e-mail, attaching it to this e-mail will be fine. The cutoff date is November 14, 2009. This will give all plenty of time to look over their maps and data. Questions, comments or just sending the data, please send an e-mail. Looking forward to receiving your replies! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] REMINDER!! Survey: Top 250 grids
Hi all! With a little more than a week to go for the deadline, 11/14/09, I just wanted to send out a reminder for those who haven't submitted to me their most wanted grids. I am undertaking a task to get a better reading on what grids are outstanding in need of activation. I am looking at obtaining the top 25 grids from the predominately 10 grid fields covering the U.S., Canada and Mexico, for the total of 250 grids. Yes, most of these grids will be in the U.S., however, I'm sure there will be some mention of VE and XE grids as well. What I would like everybody to do is take some time and look at your grid map and write down 25 grids from each of the grid fields that cover the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Those grid fields are: CN, DN, EN, FN, CM, DM, EM, FM, DL, EL. If you don't need at least 25 grids from a particular grid field, no problem, just enter those you still need. Example. Let's say you only need three grids from DM, they are DM74, 75, 76. Just enter those three. To make things simple and easy I will give an example of how the data can be entered and e-mailed to me. Here is an example. CN 79, 82, 93, 95, 99 DN 02, 03, 07, 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 24, 25, 34, 37, 38 As you can see, it's relatively easy, and very easy if you've kept up on your grid map. :) A couple of notices. 1. Please, do not send any water grids since any operation from them is sporadic and most cases, impracticle to activate for most of us. 2. Please send your data to me via e-mail, attaching it to this e-mail will be fine. The cutoff date is November 14, 2009. This will give all plenty of time to look over their maps and data. Questions, comments or just sending the data, please send an e-mail. Looking forward to receiving your replies! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Sat QSOs and LoTW
Hi all! I just uploaded my satellite QSOs from early July to now to the LoTW. A total of 158 with a match of 10, or 6.3%. Not very good. I understand that LoTW is good for DXCC and WAS, but not available to VUCC. This could be why many satellite ops opt not to partake in this program. It's ashame that VUCC was never implemented into the LoTW from the get-go. I've asked the ARRL about this and never received what I would call a justifiable answer but they did say they were working on offering LoTW to a non-ARRL award late this year or early 2010. Just my observation. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Survey: Top 250 grids
Hi all! After recently working a number of rare grids activated by our fellow satellite ops, (again THANK YOU!!) I've been looking over the grid map and wondered what grids are most needed. I, like most, have grids that others may dream of working and confirming and vice versa. Then, there are those grids that are so common, most everybody has worked and confirmed them. Since there are no HEO's and only the FM birds with a couple of linear birds, this survey will be focused on the North American area. I am undertaking a task to get a better reading on what grids are outstanding in need of activation. I am looking at obtaining the top 25 grids from the predominately 10 grid fields covering the U.S., Canada and Mexico, for the total of 250 grids. Yes, most of these grids will be in the U.S., however, I'm sure there will be some mention of VE and XE grids as well. What I would like everybody to do is take some time and look at your grid map and write down 25 grids from each of the grid fields that cover the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Those grid fields are: CN, DN, EN, FN, CM, DM, EM, FM, DL, EL. If you don't need at least 25 grids from a particular grid field, no problem, just enter those you still need. Example. Let's say you only need three grids from DM, they are DM74, 75, 76. Just enter those three. To make things simple and easy I will give an example of how the data can be entered and e-mailed to me. Here is an example. CN 79, 82, 93, 95, 99 DN 02, 03, 07, 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 24, 25, 34, 37, 38 As you can see, it's relatively easy, and very easy if you've kept up on your grid map. :) A couple of notices. 1. Please, do not send any water grids since any operation from them is sporadic and most cases, impracticle to activate for most of us. 2. Please send your data to me via e-mail, attaching it to this e-mail will be fine. The cutoff date is November 14, 2009. This will give all plenty of time to look over their maps and data. Questions, comments or just sending the data, please send an e-mail. Looking forward to receiving your replies! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: QSL cards mailed today
Hi Patrick! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Your GridXpeditions are appreciated by one and all. I am sure the demonstrations at the hamfests, and other events, capture the attention of possible future satellite ops, young and old alike. It never ceases to amaze me how much fun one can have, along with the challange, of trying to work for WAS Satellite or VUCC Satellite while tracking and attempting to hit, with RF, a roughly 1 cubic foot object moving nearly 17,000 MPH. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) amsat...@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL cards mailed today Hi! After printing more QSL cards on Sunday and writing out almost 200 cards along with envelopes last night, I dropped a large batch of envelopes at the post office this morning. These cards cover my activity from the east coast around the recently-concluded AMSAT Symposium (Washington DC/FM18, BWI Airport MD/FM19, Bear DE/FM29), as well as Saturday's activity - the Tucson AZ hamfest (DM42) in the morning, and at or just east of the Arizona/New Mexico state line (DM52) in the afternoon/early evening. Thanks to all who worked WD9EWK from these locations over the past couple of weeks. I enjoy getting on the air from almost anywhere I go, and the QSLing after the trip is an important part of that. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete
Mark, Thank you for making the trip and handing out 2 rare grids! 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Mark Spencer mspen...@hughes.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete Gze, now I know why DN00 and 01 are rare grids! There literally isn't anything out there, certainly no local RFI or traffic. It took 7 hours of driving round trip for 7 minutes of satellite time.hum 60 to 1, guess that ain't bad. Anyway, thanks to all who stuck it out through some QRM and congestion to make contact. Simply confirm the contact via e-mail and your cards will be in the mail, no SASE or QSLs required on this end. 73, Mark Mark Spencer, WA8SME ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT Education and Technology Program Coordinator mspen...@arrl.org http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/ 530-495-9150 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Road Trip finally comes to an end
Hi John, Good trip. I only worked you a couple of times but that's good considering the time available to me. :) You've made a number of people happy with some new grids and or new states. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: w6...@comcast.net To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Road Trip finally comes to an end Have arrived at home base now, so can get back to somewhat normal operations. I would like to thank all the ops who I worked while on this 16 day cross country adventure while operating in the following grids: DM26, DM65, EM25, EM45, EM63, EM73, EM70, EL79, EM40, EM00 and last but not least DM91. I have a stack of envelopes on my desk now to answer with return cards for your efforts, and also I think I have the ones that came via eQSL.cc all confirmed as of yesterday. I think the 2 prized Grids were EL79 and EM00. So, please bear with me and I will get the cards out ASAP. Again, thanks to all for giving me some challenges using the Yaesu FT60 HT and the ELK L.P. yagi, handheld. Funny though in all the RV parks I was in and operating, not one person came up to me and asked me what I was doing !! They all looked at me funny though. Oh, acouple of highlights of the trip was first the visual observation of the ISS on a pass over the Mississippi River which was something, as ! alot of the RV'ers were wondering what we were looking at, until I explained it, and then they all got a gander of it. Secondly, was finally meeing Glenn AA5PK eyeball to eyeball. Thanks for being a host and for letting me give a demo at the San Angelo Radio Club meeting of satellite ops. Was nice of AO-51 to be overhead at that time. See everyone back on normal shift now at home.. 73 de John W6ZKH DM06 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow Diplexer loss + Arrow v Elk
Hi Wayne, No hills between me or the other op. Las Vegas is in a valley surrounded by mountains to the west and south. It wasn't exactly line of sight but no obstructions. Maybe nearby house, etc. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Wayne Estes w...@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow Diplexer loss + Arrow v Elk Jeff Yanko wrote: You mention about the Elk's F/B ratio. I've noticed the same thing on the Arrow. A while back, before the new diplexer, I contacted a local about 15 miles away, he was running about 2 watts and no matter which direction I turned the beam, the signal strength never changed. Hmmm. Wayne replies: If your area is hilly you could be receiving reflections from the hills. I'm surrounded by hills. The local repeaters are south of me, behind a hill. The repeater signals are strongest when I point my antennas to the northeast, at a big hill. Wayne Estes W9AE Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow Diplexer loss + Arrow v Elk
as well toward the back, as toward the front. I have been told this is called front to back ratio. If I point north, a guy from the south calls back and I tell him, wow I am pointed north, let me turn and point it toward you...any better And usually there is little if any improvement, while on the Elk and what blows my mind is, there is also a fair bit of response from people even 90 degrees from the business end of the Elk. I have tried the same with the Arrow and gotten much different reports. This is only a general statement; I think the Arrow has a better front to back ratio, more energy going out the front end but I know there are other variables such as; hand held or up on the tripod I use to hold them each up (at times) and perhaps the ground under me, or the moisture in the ground during the different attempts, etc. (4-5' above the ground on tripod and me not always right behind it, so plenty of variables but in general, that is my experience in the field) Nevertheless, I have mentioned this to several on the board who have the Elk's and no one has responded that they have tested there's in this regard, so take this with a grain of salt for now. To others, I would love to hear your experience in this regard. I have asked a capable HAM friend to help me figure this out, properly, so one day I will have more then anecdotal info. I think both antennas are very well built and work well for satellite and emergency communications!I have often pulled one of them out, with success, when band conditions would not allow an Omni to get the job done on my VX-7R. I found the Elk a little cheaper to buy unless you do not purchase the Arrow diplexer. For others I will point out that, you can use the Arrow with two radios without a duplexer, with same two radio configuration, you will need a duplexer for the Elk and of course the reverse is true if you are using one radio for dual band work, as I do, the Arrow will require a duplexer and the Elk will not. Also as many of you know the Arrow diplexer is only rated for 10 watts but without it both antennas will handle much more. 73 de Rich KI6RRQ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:26:38 -0700 From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE To: Gary \Joe\ Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com, 'Charles Suprin' hamaa...@gmail.com Could very well be. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; 'Charles Suprin' hamaa...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE We are missing the easy answer. He had diplexer that was off spec. It happens. 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:28 PM To: Charles Suprin Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Hi Charles and the group, FB on the numbers. Interesting to say the least and thanks for taking the time to look further into this topic. Questions? I have a few after looking at these numbers and performing more observations. First, are you testing just the diplexer and not the diplexer and the antenna combined? This could result in an overall number and not just the diplexer alone. How could there be a large discrepency between preliminary reports, 2.65dB and .5dB now. Could be equipment calibration, human error, etc. from previously tested, or attempted testing of the device. I don't believe any improvements have been made to the Arrow diplexer, but who knows? Second, I switched back to the Arrow diplexer and made another comparison with the Comet diplexer. Again, no comparison, the Comet outperformed. Why would this happen if the two are pretty close to one another in numbers. The Comet has .25db loss at VHF and .26 at UHF. Third, with the Arrow diplexer I wouldn't begin to receive the birds until almost 3 minutes after AOS, with the Comet diplexer a minute to 1.5 minutes after AOS. Yes, watch calibrated to WWV and multiple times of acquiring the birds. I've tried both setups with the HT and D710 and they both show the same results respectively, Arrow diplexer vs. Comet diplexer. The antenna and coax remain the same, the difference, the diplexer. May not be test lab quality but something is proving itself. What is it? Finally, is it just my Arrow diplexer? Doesn't appear to be shorted or any defects to it. Actually looks great and assembled very well. I've encountered others saying the same thing. However, a very noticable difference to the overall performance. 73, Jeff WB3JFS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Could very well be. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; 'Charles Suprin' hamaa...@gmail.com Cc: 'Joe' n...@mwt.net; 'AMSAT-BB' amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE We are missing the easy answer. He had diplexer that was off spec. It happens. 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:28 PM To: Charles Suprin Cc: Joe; AMSAT-BB; Gary Joe Mayfield Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Hi Charles and the group, FB on the numbers. Interesting to say the least and thanks for taking the time to look further into this topic. Questions? I have a few after looking at these numbers and performing more observations. First, are you testing just the diplexer and not the diplexer and the antenna combined? This could result in an overall number and not just the diplexer alone. How could there be a large discrepency between preliminary reports, 2.65dB and .5dB now. Could be equipment calibration, human error, etc. from previously tested, or attempted testing of the device. I don't believe any improvements have been made to the Arrow diplexer, but who knows? Second, I switched back to the Arrow diplexer and made another comparison with the Comet diplexer. Again, no comparison, the Comet outperformed. Why would this happen if the two are pretty close to one another in numbers. The Comet has .25db loss at VHF and .26 at UHF. Third, with the Arrow diplexer I wouldn't begin to receive the birds until almost 3 minutes after AOS, with the Comet diplexer a minute to 1.5 minutes after AOS. Yes, watch calibrated to WWV and multiple times of acquiring the birds. I've tried both setups with the HT and D710 and they both show the same results respectively, Arrow diplexer vs. Comet diplexer. The antenna and coax remain the same, the difference, the diplexer. May not be test lab quality but something is proving itself. What is it? Finally, is it just my Arrow diplexer? Doesn't appear to be shorted or any defects to it. Actually looks great and assembled very well. I've encountered others saying the same thing. However, a very noticable difference to the overall performance. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Charles Suprin To: Jeff Yanko Cc: Joe ; Gary Joe Mayfield ; AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Howdy Jeff, Someone asked and here we go. A file attachment follows. Actually the diplexer looks pretty good. Less than half a db of loss at VHF and around half a dB at UHF. I checked the calibration and that was within tenth of a dB over the entire range. Any questions. Charles AA1VS On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote: Hi Joe and all, I doubt if the Arrow diplexer has 20dB of loss. If it did, we'd never receive a signal! :) I believe somebody here on the -bb will be performing a test on the Arrow diplexer using a vector/network analyzer. It will be interesting to say the least. There were preliminary reports saying the device had a loss anywhere from 2.65 to 2.80dB. That's close enough to 3dB which is technically half power loss. Add the loss of a short piece of coax and it will certainly be pushed over the 3dB line. If I recall correctly, cross polarity is also a 3dB loss. I have noticed that when I rotate the antenna I might get a stronger downlink but I never lose it when I rotate it back. Before, when I would do that it would drop once I rotated in either direction from the peak signal. Basically what is going on is the lossy device is removed and replaced with a more efficient one, that extra net gain you just boosted now shows how the system on the antenna side of the diplexer is truly performing. I don't have an antenna analysis program to perform a test, but what does a 7 element 440 yagi pattern look like and what is its overall gain? What we need to do is break down the antenna configuration into 3 segments, see what their losses and gains are then combine them for the overall figure. The 3 segment would be the antenna, the diplexer and the coax. Each one will be tested individually to give an accurate number for each. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Joe n...@mwt.net To: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Greetings Charles, FB on the test setup. Appears that everything was properly configured, etc. In doing the comparison with the diplexers I would insert the Arrow diplexer into the boom just like the assembled version from the factory. Everything was the same. Again, the only difference were the diplexers. When removing the diplexer from the boom, I would loosen the cap with a screwdriver and never try to pull the unit out by the two looped pieces of coax. Needless to say, some very interesting information on this device since I brought the topic up a couple weeks ago. Definately need more input from others on what they are or have observed. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Charles Suprin hamaa...@gmail.com To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net Cc: Joe n...@mwt.net; Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com; AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Jeff, The test was conducted with an anritsu two port network analyzer. Model number can be obtained if required. Each curve was made feeding the common port on the BNC cable as shipped from factory with the one end feeding into the VNA and the other leg terminated with 50 ohms. (The termination impacted out of band response significantly but did not seem to alter inband performance. No documentation provided.) These were then switched. The measurements were made inside the half boom of the disassembled version and no parts diplexer parts were removed. My version also came installed at the factory and not after the fact. These measurements were made on the two port VNA at work instead of the three port as getting the three port calibrated would have been more painful. As for your observations, is it possible the Arrow unit needs to be in the boom to be used. Perhaps that is a capacitor in the system. Additionally there are some sharp bends in the coax which generally can happen once but not repeated removal and addition. If I stumble upon a calibrated antenna range, updates may follow. Happy to answer this and any more questions. Charles AA1VS Jeff Yanko wrote: Hi Charles and the group, FB on the numbers. Interesting to say the least and thanks for taking the time to look further into this topic. Questions? I have a few after looking at these numbers and performing more observations. First, are you testing just the diplexer and not the diplexer and the antenna combined? This could result in an overall number and not just the diplexer alone. How could there be a large discrepency between preliminary reports, 2.65dB and .5dB now. Could be equipment calibration, human error, etc. from previously tested, or attempted testing of the device. I don't believe any improvements have been made to the Arrow diplexer, but who knows? Second, I switched back to the Arrow diplexer and made another comparison with the Comet diplexer. Again, no comparison, the Comet outperformed. Why would this happen if the two are pretty close to one another in numbers. The Comet has .25db loss at VHF and .26 at UHF. Third, with the Arrow diplexer I wouldn't begin to receive the birds until almost 3 minutes after AOS, with the Comet diplexer a minute to 1.5 minutes after AOS. Yes, watch calibrated to WWV and multiple times of acquiring the birds. I've tried both setups with the HT and D710 and they both show the same results respectively, Arrow diplexer vs. Comet diplexer. The antenna and coax remain the same, the difference, the diplexer. May not be test lab quality but something is proving itself. What is it? Finally, is it just my Arrow diplexer? Doesn't appear to be shorted or any defects to it. Actually looks great and assembled very well. I've encountered others saying the same thing. However, a very noticable difference to the overall performance. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - *From:* Charles Suprin mailto:hamaa...@gmail.com *To:* Jeff Yanko mailto:wb3...@cox.net *Cc:* Joe mailto:n...@mwt.net ; Gary Joe Mayfield mailto:gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com ; AMSAT-BB mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Howdy Jeff, Someone asked and here we go. A file attachment follows. Actually the diplexer looks pretty good. Less than half a db of loss at VHF and around half a dB at UHF. I checked the calibration and that was within tenth of a dB over the entire range. Any questions. Charles AA1VS On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net mailto:wb3...@cox.net wrote: Hi Joe and all, I doubt if the Arrow diplexer has 20dB of loss. If it did, we'd never receive a signal
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Hi Alan, Sorry for the long reply. Between other e-mails, work and the RTTY contest over the weekend, I've been trying to find time. Your e-mail has raised some questions I had to think about or gather additional information. As for the Arrow loosing its speckles and plastic tips. My belief is though the antenna is basically designed to be used as a portable setup, a permanent setup can be configured using the same antenna. However, being outside in certain climates, aluminum can become rather oxidized and very quickly too. Here in the desert, I've yet to see this occur on a severe case, like I used to see back in PA. I've seen aluminum poles in place for 4 years and when the sun hits it, there is a huge shine. The tips of the antenna are probably not UV hardened. Again, it was probably designed with portability in mind and not a base station setup where it would remain outside 24/7. The observations I've been making with the Comet diplexer and the Arrow diplexer have been made with multiple passes at different elevations, ranges, etc. Strictly comparing previous passes, at the same elevations, to current ones with taking into consideration how the downlink compares. You made the statement that you view all anecdotal comparisons of before and after results with some caution. Which should be true in all cases not matter what the subject is. However, when you also questioned about the improvement of fades during a pass due to a diplexer change then asked It is so, please tell me the science behind this. I must say there isn't any science behind it because anecdotal evidence is obtained through reports or observations of unscientific observers. Again, this is basic gathering of observations based on changing one device, the diplexer. As for AO-27 turning off near the 49th parallel, I don't believe there is any anti-Canadian sentiment for this. :) Think about it this way, what if you lived near the 49th parallel in the southern hemisphere? Talk about anti-sentiment. :) If I recall correctly, the timer is set to turn on around the pass of the 28th parallel and off 7 minutes later, which takes it to near the 49th parallel. I would like to see AO-27 opened for 8 to 9 minutes if it could be spared. I've had some really nice passes get cut to digital with so much more room to LOS. So I guess maybe we should ask if it is possible to extend the timer by 1 or 1.5 minutes, if the bird can spare it. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Alan VE4YZ ve...@mts.net To: 'AMSAT-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE I rarely use my Arrow and 2 dual band HTs, but, dragged them out this week because I'm scheduled to do a high school demo in 2 weeks and thought I better start practicing my technique again, update the KEPS in my Palm PocketSat+ and get the battery packs charged. So this discussion in the last couple of days is very relevant to me and here's my 2 cents... The only compliant I have about the Arrow is that it looses it's speckles and the plastic tips fad to white when used outdoor for long periods :-) Several years ago I ran it for a full year on the roof with a hygain TV rotator and fixed EL of about 30 degrees. The arrows are now plain aluminium. First I view all anecdotal comparisons of before and after results with some caution. A diplexer change from the OEM to another cannot account for the improvement in one pass with fades to the next pass with no fades IHMO. It is so, please tell me the science behind this. If a defective diplexer was acting as an attenuator then I sure can see there would be an improvement in signal. In my location, 2 low passes with the same max elevation on the same satellite can be quite different depending on which part of the horizon is below the pass - open prairie vs the noise floor of city. Sometimes there are fades and sometimes there aren't any. Satellites tumble. Sometimes to your advantage and some times they work against you. Now, as to the Arrow OEM diplexer; with the 2 HT's I don't use it except as a mode J filter, see http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/Mode-J/ to reduce desense, and, a mini UHF preamp http://www.hsmicrowave.com/html/amateur_lna.htm , and, anecdotally I can tell you that I can see the increase in bars on S-PO Meter and these old ears can hear the difference when the preamp is switched on and off. For those of you who want to use an external diplexer such as a Comet, you can still use the OEM diplexer at the same time as a filter. BTW yesterday I just practiced listening and heard a monstrous booming signal from ISS, got to hear 4 or 5 answers to questions during the Ottawa ARISS with the Arrow and a max 10 degrees pass, no preamp needed, LOS just under 5 degrees. Also AO-27 max 20 degrees over Eastern NOAM until it
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Hi Charles and the group, FB on the numbers. Interesting to say the least and thanks for taking the time to look further into this topic. Questions? I have a few after looking at these numbers and performing more observations. First, are you testing just the diplexer and not the diplexer and the antenna combined? This could result in an overall number and not just the diplexer alone. How could there be a large discrepency between preliminary reports, 2.65dB and .5dB now. Could be equipment calibration, human error, etc. from previously tested, or attempted testing of the device. I don't believe any improvements have been made to the Arrow diplexer, but who knows? Second, I switched back to the Arrow diplexer and made another comparison with the Comet diplexer. Again, no comparison, the Comet outperformed. Why would this happen if the two are pretty close to one another in numbers. The Comet has .25db loss at VHF and .26 at UHF. Third, with the Arrow diplexer I wouldn't begin to receive the birds until almost 3 minutes after AOS, with the Comet diplexer a minute to 1.5 minutes after AOS. Yes, watch calibrated to WWV and multiple times of acquiring the birds. I've tried both setups with the HT and D710 and they both show the same results respectively, Arrow diplexer vs. Comet diplexer. The antenna and coax remain the same, the difference, the diplexer. May not be test lab quality but something is proving itself. What is it? Finally, is it just my Arrow diplexer? Doesn't appear to be shorted or any defects to it. Actually looks great and assembled very well. I've encountered others saying the same thing. However, a very noticable difference to the overall performance. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Charles Suprin To: Jeff Yanko Cc: Joe ; Gary Joe Mayfield ; AMSAT-BB Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Howdy Jeff, Someone asked and here we go. A file attachment follows. Actually the diplexer looks pretty good. Less than half a db of loss at VHF and around half a dB at UHF. I checked the calibration and that was within tenth of a dB over the entire range. Any questions. Charles AA1VS On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote: Hi Joe and all, I doubt if the Arrow diplexer has 20dB of loss. If it did, we'd never receive a signal! :) I believe somebody here on the -bb will be performing a test on the Arrow diplexer using a vector/network analyzer. It will be interesting to say the least. There were preliminary reports saying the device had a loss anywhere from 2.65 to 2.80dB. That's close enough to 3dB which is technically half power loss. Add the loss of a short piece of coax and it will certainly be pushed over the 3dB line. If I recall correctly, cross polarity is also a 3dB loss. I have noticed that when I rotate the antenna I might get a stronger downlink but I never lose it when I rotate it back. Before, when I would do that it would drop once I rotated in either direction from the peak signal. Basically what is going on is the lossy device is removed and replaced with a more efficient one, that extra net gain you just boosted now shows how the system on the antenna side of the diplexer is truly performing. I don't have an antenna analysis program to perform a test, but what does a 7 element 440 yagi pattern look like and what is its overall gain? What we need to do is break down the antenna configuration into 3 segments, see what their losses and gains are then combine them for the overall figure. The 3 segment would be the antenna, the diplexer and the coax. Each one will be tested individually to give an accurate number for each. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Joe n...@mwt.net To: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE as in the texts below, there is something else going on here. That Diplexor can not be all that bad. two reasons. How many db down is the front to side of that antenna? and I can not imaging someone would sell a diplexor that has greater than 20 db of losses. because of the statement that how criticalpolarity was with the original, and now the antenna has to be nearly 90 degrees cross polarized to make it drop out uhh that close to 30 db, at least 20,, something else is going on here Gary Joe Mayfield wrote: Another issue I came across was how wide the beamwidth is of the Arrow Antenna between the Arrow diplexer and the new diplexer
[amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong)
Interesting topic. Here in the desert, Las Vegas, NV, I've seen a few homes with solar panels on their roofs. Not a lot but a few here and there. Actually, I see more with roof heating systems for the pools than anything else. However, I'm sure there are more out there than I'm seeing. In any case, a topic has risen about generating and selling power back to the utility company.taxes. Some states are now implementing taxes on residential owners who generate and sell back their power to the utility company. Pennsylvania happens to be one of them. I believe the standing is if you sell back over 50,000 watts of power you will incur additional taxes, adding to your state personal income tax. Apparantly, after 50,000 watts your considered a generating or generator entity and are subject to tax. Lets say you were able to generate and sell back 100,000 watts to the utility company. The first 50,000 watts would be free. From then on out, it's taxed. Not sure what rate they are or would be applying but lets say 15 cents per KW. At 50,000 watts that would be $7.50. Doesn't sound like much, then again 15 cents per KW is probably nowhere near what they really want. I believe you will see this happen more often as states look for additional revenue. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Power (I was wrong) Since Satellite design is heavy into Solar power, and I talk about that a lot, you may have heard me compare my Solar car to Solar panels on the roof of your house as not economical, I WAS WRONG. I was overlooking many recent changes in the environment: 1) Solar panels (PV) are 1% of what they cost in 1970 2) PV dropped 40% this year due to 2007 Energy Boom and 2009 economic bust 4) $5,000 to $20,000 tax and cash back incentives for YOU 5) Grid-tie systems operate at 95% efficiency compared to 70% of battery systems 6) Local electric rates DOUBLED in the last 2 years 7) Laws require utilities to pay you the same peak rates they charge you. 8) Solar Energy credits can gain an additional $275 per 1Kw system per year 9) Payback is at least 10% per year or better 10) The same money in the bank gets 1% interest So I was wrong in not keeping current with all the changing environment, and now I am full speed to get my system approved and built and correct any miss-guidance I may have helped propagate. Sorry. I am claiming this particular email is on-topic because of public statements to the contrary I have made at satellite forums. But this hot topic should probably spin off elsewhere. We need a HAM Solar Power group somewhere...? Summary: Do NOT make the mistake (as most of us do) of thinking in terms of stand-alone Battery back-up solar power systems . They cost more and you don't need it in most places where you have access to the grid. They cost $5 to $10,000 more, are only 70% efficient (compared to 95% for grid-tie) and are a never ending maintenance headache. Instead, most any enterprising ham should be able to provide his own backup power using a cheap 1 kW inverter for about $150 from any auto store or radio shack running off his car's 12V system for any power outages. That, a few deep cycle batteries, (and using CFL lightbulbs in your house) will give you enough emergency power to operate your full Ham station, all the lights in the house you want plus your refrigerator for as long as you can buy gas. But the other 99.99% of the time, sell your solar power to the power company (at peak rates during the day) and buy it back cheap at night (you win and you don't even have to worrry about batteries)... And even if your grid-tie solar array produces nothing (in the way of AC power) when the grid goes out, you still have many Killowatts of DC power on your roof, that you can surely find lots of things to do with until the grid comes back. For example, have the electrician wire a 250 volt string of the 200 Watt solar panels in the array to a DPDT switch so they can be disconnected from the Grid Tie system and the 250 VDC can be available to you. THen you can plug in as many modern DC/DC pwer supplies into that 250 VDC to give you LOTS of amps at 12 volts, or ... almost any modern gizmo has a universal power supply input that will run on anything from 110V to 330V DC as is. Anyway, for similar hints www.aprs.org/FD-Prius-Power.html Sorry for the off-topic. But I was wrong. PV works! (even in Maryland). If you live in the SW, you are lucky, and it works TWICE as much or at HALF the price! A Born-again Home PV junkie Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings:
[amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong)
Hi Pete, FB on friends and their systems. What will happen is since each state has its own PUC, Public Utility Commission, and laws there will be 50 different ways of handling how to reimburse, tax or otherwise garnish money from this process. I've also been wondering. Since a basic grid-tie system can cost from $15,000 to $25,000, they only last so long. Twenty years, tops maybe? Do they really pay for themselves, even wth tax credits, when you have to replace them in say twenty years? 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Pete Rowe To: bruni...@usna.edu ; amsat-bb@amsat.org ; Jeff Yanko Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong) I've recently looked into PV home installations in California. Unfortunately, here at least, the power company is only required to pay you the WHOLESALE cost of electricity. This amounts to 3 to 4 cents per kw-hr. Hence, most folks size their PV system to exactly meet their needs. I have three friends who have had systems running for 3 years. You get credits from the power company for the power you generated during the year. Then they even up at the end of the year. If you made more electricity than you used, you lose it. If you made less, then you owe them the difference. Since they have sized the systems correctly, they owe very little money. One of my friends installed a water spray system to cool the panels since they lose efficiency fast as the temperature goes up. Also, it doesn't take much dust or bird poop to cut the efficiency. So if you install a system, be prepared to get on the roof every month or so to clean the panels. Regards, Pete WA6WOA --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote: From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong) To: bruni...@usna.edu, amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:04 PM Interesting topic. Here in the desert, Las Vegas, NV, I've seen a few homes with solar panels on their roofs. Not a lot but a few here and there. Actually, I see more with roof heating systems for the pools than anything else. However, I'm sure there are more out there than I'm seeing. In any case, a topic has risen about generating and selling power back to the utility company.taxes. Some states are now implementing taxes on residential owners who generate and sell back their power to the utility company. Pennsylvania happens to be one of them. I believe the standing is if you sell back over 50,000 watts of power you will incur additional taxes, adding to your state personal income tax. Apparantly, after 50,000 watts your considered a generating or generator entity and are subject to tax. Lets say you were able to generate and sell back 100,000 watts to the utility company. The first 50,000 watts would be free. From then on out, it's taxed. Not sure what rate they are or would be applying but lets say 15 cents per KW. At 50,000 watts that would be $7.50. Doesn't sound like much, then again 15 cents per KW is probably nowhere near what they really want. I believe you will see this happen more often as states look for additional revenue. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Robert Bruninga bruni...@usna.edu To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Solar Power (I was wrong) Since Satellite design is heavy into Solar power, and I talk about that a lot, you may have heard me compare my Solar car to Solar panels on the roof of your house as not economical, I WAS WRONG. I was overlooking many recent changes in the environment: 1) Solar panels (PV) are 1% of what they cost in 1970 2) PV dropped 40% this year due to 2007 Energy Boom and 2009 economic bust 4) $5,000 to $20,000 tax and cash back incentives for YOU 5) Grid-tie systems operate at 95% efficiency compared to 70% of battery systems 6) Local electric rates DOUBLED in the last 2 years 7) Laws require utilities to pay you the same peak rates they charge you. 8) Solar Energy credits can gain an additional $275 per 1Kw system per year 9) Payback is at least 10% per year or better 10) The same money in the bank gets 1% interest So I was wrong in not keeping current with all the changing environment, and now I am full speed to get my system approved
[amsat-bb] Re: Cute 1.7 Re-Entry
Reminds me of the Chicken Little Contests when Vern Riportella was around. It was quite fun. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: John Heath g7...@btinternet.com To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net Cc: Amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cute 1.7 Re-Entry Hi Nigel, Thanks for alerting me, and the list, to the upcommong re-entry. I have been tracking the orbital changes of the Castor Pollux pair with an interest. Their mass differences are showing up quite clearly in the Mean Motion. Cute 1.7 is different again being such a small mass, and adds another level of interest. Glad to have your prediction to add to the table. 73 John G7HIA From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: John Heath g7...@btinternet.com Cc: Amsat amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 6:36:55 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cute 1.7 Re-Entry I posted the following on this a week or so ago: Spacetrack is predicting that CUTE 1.7 will decay on 10th October. My predix software predicts that the first time the satellite hits terra firma will be 19th December. What do others think? John Heath wrote: Hi Based on day 271 keps from Celestrak the Perigee height for Cute 1.7 Object 28941 has now dropped below 300km. Re-entry probably early October. Anyone care to predict the date and time? If you would, how about sending it to me off list. g7...@btinternet.com I will complile a table and provide a small prize for the person who is nearest. Closing date midnight utc last day of September. 73 John G7HIA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Hi Joe and all, I doubt if the Arrow diplexer has 20dB of loss. If it did, we'd never receive a signal! :) I believe somebody here on the -bb will be performing a test on the Arrow diplexer using a vector/network analyzer. It will be interesting to say the least. There were preliminary reports saying the device had a loss anywhere from 2.65 to 2.80dB. That's close enough to 3dB which is technically half power loss. Add the loss of a short piece of coax and it will certainly be pushed over the 3dB line. If I recall correctly, cross polarity is also a 3dB loss. I have noticed that when I rotate the antenna I might get a stronger downlink but I never lose it when I rotate it back. Before, when I would do that it would drop once I rotated in either direction from the peak signal. Basically what is going on is the lossy device is removed and replaced with a more efficient one, that extra net gain you just boosted now shows how the system on the antenna side of the diplexer is truly performing. I don't have an antenna analysis program to perform a test, but what does a 7 element 440 yagi pattern look like and what is its overall gain? What we need to do is break down the antenna configuration into 3 segments, see what their losses and gains are then combine them for the overall figure. The 3 segment would be the antenna, the diplexer and the coax. Each one will be tested individually to give an accurate number for each. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Joe n...@mwt.net To: Gary Joe Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE as in the texts below, there is something else going on here. That Diplexor can not be all that bad. two reasons. How many db down is the front to side of that antenna? and I can not imaging someone would sell a diplexor that has greater than 20 db of losses. because of the statement that how criticalpolarity was with the original, and now the antenna has to be nearly 90 degrees cross polarized to make it drop out uhh that close to 30 db, at least 20,, something else is going on here Gary Joe Mayfield wrote: Another issue I came across was how wide the beamwidth is of the Arrow Antenna between the Arrow diplexer and the new diplexer. I was wondering if this was going to happen and it did. The reason that this happened was with the old diplexer, the signal attenuated so much that you had to be pointed right smack dab on the bird, a few degrees off and you lost the signal. Now, with the new diplexer, you can point the beam in the general direction and still copy the bird. In most cases I had to turn the beam 90 degrees before I completely lost the downlink! Twisting the antenna to make polarization changes makes absolutely no difference now. This also attributes to the fact that now I'm copying the entire pass without dropouts or fades. Makes sense. What I've regained over the lossy diplexer makes up for any polarization differences, etc. for a better copiable signal. Next weekend I will have to try more passes and get a feel of how much this system has changed. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2395 - Release Date: 09/25/09 17:52:00 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Hi Bruce and all, No problem. Actually, I wouldn't call it research as much as curiosity. Maybe the research will come later when developing something better. :) I know the antenna works but can it be made to perform better? The antenna itself is of great quality and workmanship, it's the diplexer that has been making me wonder if that is the weak spot. The Achilles heel of the system. OK on setting up the FT-817 using two coaxes. I've heard a number of others doing the same thing with great results. I would suggest doing what best suits the individuals needs and affordability. You be surprised what one can dream up when you plan it out and follow through with the design. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Bruce Robertson ve9...@gmail.com To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net Cc: AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE Jeff -- I really appreciate you doing this research for us. Two additional ideas come to mind: 1. Those of us with FT-817s could configure its two RF ports to use different bands and connect the rig directly to the beam's antenna connectors, bypassing the duplexer. For this purpose, higher-quality bnc terminated cable would be useful. 2. If I'm correct, your replacement duplexer is rather larger than the one it is replacing. It would be a great topic for a Journal article if someone with the necessary equipment and expertise were to design a replacement with less loss. 73, Bruce VE9QRP On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote: Hi all, A quick update to my new project to improving the Arrow antenna, efficiency wise. I wanted to see how well it would perform on gaining and losing access during AOS and LOS. AO-27 is not a good choice since the timer is turned on when it is well above the AOS horizon and it is switched off before it reaches its LOS horizon. That leaves a dependable AO-51 to test it out. With the last setup, the OEM diplexer provided by Arrow Antenna, I would copy AO-51 about 3 minutes after AOS and lose it about 3 to 4 minutes before LOS. Not bad, but people were saying they worked the birds when they were 1 degree off of the horizon. I have some pine trees that could be an issue but they are spaced far enough apart that I can work between them and I also have to deal with the McCollough Range to the SSE of me here in Las Vegas, NV. Today, there were 2 passes of AO-51, one at 12 degrees elevation, the other at 74 degrees. During both passes, I began to copy the downlink about a 1.25 minute after AOS. A considerable difference from 3 minutes. The downlink also improved down to about minute before LOS. On the last pass I worked KG6NUB at 0124z and LOS was 0125z and my downlink sounded fairly good, though I was fighting desense. (That's another issue I need to resolve.) Also, on both passes, I never once lost the downlink. No dropouts or fades. I'm still amazed. Another issue I came across was how wide the beamwidth is of the Arrow Antenna between the Arrow diplexer and the new diplexer. I was wondering if this was going to happen and it did. The reason that this happened was with the old diplexer, the signal attenuated so much that you had to be pointed right smack dab on the bird, a few degrees off and you lost the signal. Now, with the new diplexer, you can point the beam in the general direction and still copy the bird. In most cases I had to turn the beam 90 degrees before I completely lost the downlink! Twisting the antenna to make polarization changes makes absolutely no difference now. This also attributes to the fact that now I'm copying the entire pass without dropouts or fades. Makes sense. What I've regained over the lossy diplexer makes up for any polarization differences, etc. for a better copiable signal. Next weekend I will have to try more passes and get a feel of how much this system has changed. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Arrow antenna reconfiguration results - UPDATE
Hi all, A quick update to my new project to improving the Arrow antenna, efficiency wise. I wanted to see how well it would perform on gaining and losing access during AOS and LOS. AO-27 is not a good choice since the timer is turned on when it is well above the AOS horizon and it is switched off before it reaches its LOS horizon. That leaves a dependable AO-51 to test it out. With the last setup, the OEM diplexer provided by Arrow Antenna, I would copy AO-51 about 3 minutes after AOS and lose it about 3 to 4 minutes before LOS. Not bad, but people were saying they worked the birds when they were 1 degree off of the horizon. I have some pine trees that could be an issue but they are spaced far enough apart that I can work between them and I also have to deal with the McCollough Range to the SSE of me here in Las Vegas, NV. Today, there were 2 passes of AO-51, one at 12 degrees elevation, the other at 74 degrees. During both passes, I began to copy the downlink about a 1.25 minute after AOS. A considerable difference from 3 minutes. The downlink also improved down to about minute before LOS. On the last pass I worked KG6NUB at 0124z and LOS was 0125z and my downlink sounded fairly good, though I was fighting desense. (That's another issue I need to resolve.) Also, on both passes, I never once lost the downlink. No dropouts or fades. I'm still amazed. Another issue I came across was how wide the beamwidth is of the Arrow Antenna between the Arrow diplexer and the new diplexer. I was wondering if this was going to happen and it did. The reason that this happened was with the old diplexer, the signal attenuated so much that you had to be pointed right smack dab on the bird, a few degrees off and you lost the signal. Now, with the new diplexer, you can point the beam in the general direction and still copy the bird. In most cases I had to turn the beam 90 degrees before I completely lost the downlink! Twisting the antenna to make polarization changes makes absolutely no difference now. This also attributes to the fact that now I'm copying the entire pass without dropouts or fades. Makes sense. What I've regained over the lossy diplexer makes up for any polarization differences, etc. for a better copiable signal. Next weekend I will have to try more passes and get a feel of how much this system has changed. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
In line with the TS-2000(X). Not sure if it has the 6 meter band. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:29 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio And here's a big shiny picture - note the Satellite button :) http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic9100/IC-9100_prerelease.pdf Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch It appears that it will - so it's a sort of IC-910H + HF radio in one box :) ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
FB. No 220 mHz on the TS-2000 either, but 50 mHz is included. So the IC-9100 pretty much is a shack in a box, just lacking 50 mHz. Not a bad setup. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio It does - 1.8MHz to 70cms included, 23 cms optional (no 70MHz or 220MHz though). Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net To: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch; amsat-bb@amsat.org In line with the TS-2000(X). Not sure if it has the 6 meter band. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
OK. Wasn't sure of the VHF bands available in Europe. 70 mHz always stuck in my mind because I recall seeing it occasionally on the European Packet Clusters. At first, I kept thinking somebody is typing in the wrong frequency. I guess not! 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch To: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio 70MHz is used but 50MHz is much more common. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net FB on 50 Mhz. Is the 70 mHz band used more in the European ham theatre? ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: WD9EWK cards arrived today!!!!!!
Hi Larry and the group, Patrick's cards arrive here today as well. Actually the mailbox was quite full and happy with a total of 8 new grids confirmed, 6 from Patrick alone. Kudos to K8YSE, KD8CAO, ND9M and numerous others who've attributed to helping an addiction.satellite VUCC. :) 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Larry Teran satva...@hotmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK cards arrived today!! I like to Thanks in public Patrick Stoddard for his dedication as a satellite operator and for this great Gridxpeditions from him that allow me to log a bunch of grids I worked 13 of the 14 grids he visited on his July trip and also last week on DM54 and 55. as a relatively new satellite use I'm so glad there is people like Patrick WD9EWK, John K8YSE, and his son KD8CA0 Douglas, that helped me log new grids and inspire me to keep going on. Thanks all of you people for your support! 73's from KI6YAA Larry _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: WD9EWK cards arrived today!!!!!!
To all: Wow! What a day. First 8 grids confirmed. Now, just come to find out that the 7O1YGF DXpedition by German nationals waaay back in April 2000 will finally count for DXCC. So anybody on the -BB that has worked 7O1YGF and received confirmation, the QSL will now count! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: w6...@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko Cc: Larry Teran ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: WD9EWK cards arrived today!! I would also like to pass along my thanks in Patrick's efforts and do appreciate all that he has done and is doing to promote the addiction of operating satellites. Also, congrat's on making W.A.S. via satellites. 73 de John W6ZKH - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net To: Larry Teran satva...@hotmail.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:29:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WD9EWK cards arrived today!! Hi Larry and the group, Patrick's cards arrive here today as well. Actually the mailbox was quite full and happy with a total of 8 new grids confirmed, 6 from Patrick alone. Kudos to K8YSE, KD8CAO, ND9M and numerous others who've attributed to helping an addiction.satellite VUCC. :) 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Larry Teran satva...@hotmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK cards arrived today!! I like to Thanks in public Patrick Stoddard for his dedication as a satellite operator and for this great Gridxpeditions from him that allow me to log a bunch of grids I worked 13 of the 14 grids he visited on his July trip and also last week on DM54 and 55. as a relatively new satellite use I'm so glad there is people like Patrick WD9EWK, John K8YSE, and his son KD8CA0 Douglas, that helped me log new grids and inspire me to keep going on. Thanks all of you people for your support! 73's from KI6YAA Larry _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: satellite WAS #309
Hi Patrick and the group, Congratulations on the Satellite WAS! Quite a feat, even from the western US, like you stated has an easier chance of obtaining such an award due to the geography. Sorry I couldn't get a QSO with you will on your last excursion to eastern AZ. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) amsat...@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite WAS #309 Hi! After over 3 1/2 years working the satellites, getting on the air for around 6000 satellite QSOs followed by requesting QSL cards from stations across the USA, I was able to complete one of my goals when I started on the satellites - work and confirm QSOs with all 50 US states. I had my applications and cards for the satellite Worked All States award reviewed here in Phoenix a couple of weeks ago, and the certificate arrived today. :-) Out here in the western part of North America, it is possible to work all 50 states with the existing group of LEO satellites we have. In fact, it can be done with just the FM satellites from out here if there are stations on from each of the states. My application used QSL cards from contacts only on the 3 FM satellites (AO-27, AO-51, SO-50). There is no special endorsement for doing that; the WAS certificate has OSCAR to identify this as a satellite WAS, along with the serial number for this version of the WAS (#309) and the date it was issued (last Thursday, 6 August). I wanted to use cards from only the FM-satellite QSOs, as that was one of the two goals I wanted to do when I started out in late 2005 (the other thing was to get QSL cards from at least 100 grids, for the satellite VUCC award). I'll use many of the same cards toward the AMSAT Sexagesimal award (confirming contacts with at least 60 US states/Canadian provinces/DXCC countries), and then do the bigger task of assembling a satellite VUCC application (I'm somewhere between 250 and 300 grids confirmed). Or I can go back on the radio, and leave that paperwork for some other time. :-) In any event, thanks to all the stations over 3 1/2 years that got on the air from the different states - and for sending those QSL cards to confirm the contacts. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Nigel, Has anybody determined which Objects are Pollux and Castor? From looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: Amsat-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 014 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 023 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 026 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Hi Mike and the group, Due to being very busy on this end, I've yet to try copying the birds to test the keps, so I really can't deduce to which is which. Your correct, they are still much too close to accurately name. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; 'Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF' ni...@ngunn.net; 'Amsat-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:03 AM Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps Hi, I used OBJ E for the last pass with good results. But I think they are too close together at the moment to say what is what. 73, Mike DK3WN -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Jeff Yanko Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 12:59 An: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF; Amsat-BB Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps Nigel, Has anybody determined which Objects are Pollux and Castor? From looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: Amsat-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 014 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 023 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 026 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDE released
Any new keps available for Castor and Pollux? 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: kc8...@cox.net To: Ivan Galysh ivan.gal...@nrl.navy.mil Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDE released Copied in EN91. Timestamps are EDT (UTC-4) Fm POLLUX-1 To CQ Via TELEM UI pid=F0 Len=112 [15:03:57] MEMS 6006 2.59 2.57 2.46 0.778 1.440 0.331 -0.441 -0.882 1.441 -7.26 -1.13 24.26 6.90 7.24 6.72 2.60 16 45 31 Fm POLLUX-1 To CQ Via TELEM UI pid=F0 Len=99 [15:04:23] SYST 6039 0 0 33 0 0051 0a30 002d 0980 002d 0960 0168 0cc8 0008 09d0 015e 08c6 0fbe 0040 Used UISS to decode, tracking ISS on 145.825 figuring it had to be close enough (antenna has 24 degree beam width). Will add keps later on and get more accurate tracking. Joe KC8RAN On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:26 PM , Ivan Galysh wrote: Anyone who hears any of the satellites, let me know and send me any telemetry. Ivan ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Doug's (KD8CAO/P) recent road trip!
Group, Same sentiments from me as well. Doug did a bang up job and helped many work, and confirm a rare grid. Great job, Doug!!! 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: David - KG4ZLB kg4...@googlemail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Doug's (KD8CAO/P) recent road trip! All, I wanted to publicly thank Doug for going on the road recently and activating grids that we might not see again for some time and more especially for the QSL cards which he sent subsequently. Mine arrived today, a card for each contact with full 6 character grid square locators and County information - great for those of us that chase these additional bits of information. Many thanks Doug! 73 -- David KG4ZLB www.kg4zlb.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] TH-D7(G) plug size?
Hi all, I've been looking over the manual of the TH-D7(G) HT and I can't seem to find any information on the size of the plug used to supply DC input to this unit. There is a fused cable available, PG-2W, but if the plug size is known then I can attempt to find it and make my own cable. Hopefully, it's not propriatary. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ISS Field Day configuration?
Hi Alan, I already have that website bookmarked! :) My concern is if something changed it wouldn't be updated fast enough, not the blogger entries, the status of the repeater, etc. Seems to me that last year and before, the time leading up to FD there were more bulletins from reliable sources giving a heads up about the possible activity from the ISS. This year it seems mute. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Alan P. Biddle apbid...@united.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:37 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Field Day configuration? Jeff, As always, a good but not definitive source is the ISS Fan Club site: http://www.issfanclub.com/ In the upper left of the home page are reports on the various modes, including where relevant the uplink and downlink. Checking between now and FD start will give you a good idea, though last minute changes can and have happened. Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] AO-51
Wondering if AO-51 is operating? Just listened for the 2357z pass and nothing received. The last time I checked the status of the bird it shows that the 435.300 downlink was active. I also listened for the 435.150 to no avail. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Slightly OT: SignaLink USB
Hi all, Wondering if anybody in this group is currently using the Tigertronics SignaLink USB device with a TS-2000? If so, please contact me off -BB. I have some questions. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: K5D DXpedition
Hi Gary and all! Talk about a coincidence. Gary asks about the K5D operation on Friday and what do I receive in the mailbox that same say? The K5D QSL card for my HF contacts! 73 Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: k8...@aol.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] K5D DXpedition Can someone please remind me of the name and callsign of the sat op who operated from Desecheo. Many thanks. 73, Gary -K8KFJ- West Virginia Sat VUCC #125 **Mortgage rates dropped. Record lows. $200,000 for $1,029/mo Fixed. LendingTree® (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627882x1201465404/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.lendingtree.com%2Fborrower%2Falliance%2Ffrom.a sp%3Fwhereto%3Dpromopagev3%26promo%3D00279%26loan%5Ftype%3D2%26source%3D2889 570%26esourceid%3D2889570%26800num%3D1%2D800%2D289%2D3915%26AdType%3D2) ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message
Tony, When did you record this? I thought Rs-12/13 has been silent for years. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message All, Was just going through my satellite recordings and found a Merry Christmas / Happy New Year message sent via the RS12/13 transponder and was wondering if anyone could explain the errors? CQ CQ CQ DE RS12 AND RS3X MERRY CHRIJTMAS AND A HAPPI NEW YEAR Message upload mishap? Lost in translation issue? Tony -K2MO ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message
Tony, FB. At first I thought RS-12/13 pulled an AO-7. :) RS-12/13 was a fine bird. It was the first bird I made satellite QSO's with and had a blast with it. RS-10/11 provided numerous contacts as well. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message Jeff, When did you record this? I thought Rs-12/13 has been silent for years. Yes it did go silent some time ago. The recording is probably 10 years old. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net To: Tony d...@optonline.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message Tony, When did you record this? I thought Rs-12/13 has been silent for years. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] RS12/13 Merry Christmas / HNY Message All, Was just going through my satellite recordings and found a Merry Christmas / Happy New Year message sent via the RS12/13 transponder and was wondering if anyone could explain the errors? CQ CQ CQ DE RS12 AND RS3X MERRY CHRIJTMAS AND A HAPPI NEW YEAR Message upload mishap? Lost in translation issue? Tony -K2MO ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: K5D DXpedition
Gary, That would be Gary, K9SG. If you go to the K5D website click on Daily updates from the team can be viewed here. Then click on Pictures. Scroll down to posting Getting antennas back in order - February 20th. Scroll down to the bottom and the last two photos show Gary working the birds. 73, Jeff WB3JFS Las Vegas, NV DM26 - Original Message - From: k8...@aol.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] K5D DXpedition Can someone please remind me of the name and callsign of the sat op who operated from Desecheo. Many thanks. 73, Gary -K8KFJ- West Virginia Sat VUCC #125 **Mortgage rates dropped. Record lows. $200,000 for $1,029/mo Fixed. LendingTree® (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222627882x1201465404/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.lendingtree.com%2Fborrower%2Falliance%2Ffrom.a sp%3Fwhereto%3Dpromopagev3%26promo%3D00279%26loan%5Ftype%3D2%26source%3D2889 570%26esourceid%3D2889570%26800num%3D1%2D800%2D289%2D3915%26AdType%3D2) ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
