date:20081226

Isnt it the responsibility of the Producers of the Movie. ?. why should AR
bother about all these ?

May be he left all these issues to the Producers of the movie... I think its
a grave sin to question AR's ethics. and Pls dont use the words  Rip Off
for AR. It really hurts.




On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM, rayrai2k ravis...@gmail.com wrote:

   Are you questioning AR's ethics? I dont think he ripped the music
 anywhere from Memento. You should be asking the question to its
 producers and the story writers. Why AR?
 To avoid downloading and using pirated music, movie or software is
 individual ethics.
 You might be using softwares are you 100% sure that theres no pirated
 software or there is any software installed and used according to the
 norms in the agreement?
 Your question to AR can be solicited only if he had anywhere used the
 music from the predecessor.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 pradeepananth
  pradeepana...@... wrote:
 
  So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box office
  records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to rake
  in a lot of moolah.
 
  As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
  Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the producers
 of
  Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini didn't
  quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-profile
  nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  co.
 
  In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
  acquire the rights first from the original writer/director/producers
  before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
  others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
 audience
  to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
 appeal
  to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they are
  doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure
  that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
  intellectual property laws)
 
 
  Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off the
  story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder if
 he
  ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want to be
  associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights of
  another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR doesn't
  appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources and
  not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
 
  Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
 issue,
  that would be awesome.
 
  Thoughts?
  -pradeep
 

 




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Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?

2008-12-26 Thread balajirajagopal

Not sure about this but someone was mentioning that the starting lines 
of Guzarish was very similar to the Reliance Mobile advt music.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath 
kishore.paray...@... wrote:

 GUZARISH main TUNE including the humming... is similar to PACHAI 
NIRAME...

[arr] Slumdog Millionairre ranked 8th On Yahoo movies BOX OFFICE

2008-12-26 Thread nivensamy

From 11th to 8th Position and released in only 589 Theaters.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/

Cheers 
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[arr] TAXI TAXI

2008-12-26 Thread sandhiya vs

Taxi Taxi song's unique record 
In the recent film named sakkarakatti all songs are block buster hit which were 
composed by musical legend A.R. Rahman. He is known as Isai Puyal which means 
Musical Wind. In that film out of all songs the song Taxi Taxi which is a rap 
song has created a unique record that is this song has been played around 422 
times in 30 hours. This record is unmatchable and no other song in Indian 
cinema has equalled its standards. Three cheers for A.R.Rahman.
 
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[arr] B.O. update:- 'Ghajini' has unprecedented start, collects Rs. 10cr. to Rs. 12 cr.

2008-12-26 Thread Sathya Sundaram

http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/trade/boxoffice_update/index.html

B.O. update:- 'Ghajini' has unprecedented start, collects Rs. 10cr. to Rs. 12 
cr. 
- By Taran Adarsh, December 26, 2008 - 11:41 IST 
 The keenly-anticipated GHAJINI fetched the biggest start ever, shattering the 
record held by SINGH IS KINNG and GOLMAAL RETURNS, the two big openers of 2008. 
The paid previews were packed to capacity on Wednesday night and the film ran 
to almost 100% response throughout the country on Thursday.

Studio 18, the distributors of the film, were in for a pleasant surprise. 
Having released two of the biggest openers this year -- SINGH IS KINNG and 
GOLMAAL RETURNS -- and also one of the biggest openers of 2007 [WELCOME], they 
couldn't believe their eyes when they saw the figures pouring in from all over. 
Exhibitors across the country were going into raptures, stressing on the cent 
per cent occupancy on Wednesday night [paid previews] and also Thursday 
[Christmas]. 

This writer was in constant touch with several exhibitors, who couldn't hide 
their excitement. The common feedback is, the crowd was uncontrollable, that 
the crowd inside and outside their theatres was the same, that the film was 
packed in advance for the entire weekend. 

Talking of numbers, the film collected approx. Rs. 2 cr. + in paid previews [a 
record], while the Thursday numbers were approx. Rs. 9 cr. According to early 
indications, the film collected between Rs. 10 cr. to Rs. 12 cr. nett, as per 
Studio 18. It's a new record, it's creating history

[arr] Review: Watch Ghajini for the four As

*Review: Watch Ghajini for the four As *  *Movie*
Review: Watch *Ghajini* for the four As  *Director*
A.R. Murugadoss  *Cast*
Aamir Khan,Asin,Jiah Khan  *By Sonia Chopra
*   Not many films consider the villain so important as to name the film
after them. The other film that comes to mind, tributing the villain this
extent, is *Kill Bill*. The parallel doesn't end here.

In a dimly-lit flat in Mumbai, we see a man ruthlessly killing another; then
peering curiously over the body. That's Sanjay Singhania (Aamir), owner of
Airvoice Telecom Company…wondering who he just murdered, as he suffers from
temporary memory loss. But the name `Ghajini' on the dead man's phone brings
back a flash of disconnected images that Sanjay cannot comprehend, leading
him to futile aggravation.



Each morning Sanjay wakes up wondering where he is; he sees the house
littered with instructions: the one in the bathroom orders him to remove his
shirt and he sees messages, phone numbers, the name Ghajini, and `revenge'
inscribed all over his body. He knows he must settle scores – just against
whom, and for what, is the question.

Meanwhile a cop, on Sanjay's trail for the murder, gets hold of his diary.
Sanjay's laddie picture on the first page, such a departure from what he is
today, takes us to the back-story. High flying businessman Sanjay meets
sprightly, mischievously lying Kalpana (Asin) who works as a small-time
model with an advertising company. (Lots of laughs in this portion, courtesy
Asin's natural flair for comedy)

The scene where she, mistaking a journalist for an agency honcho, makes up
details about her love life is hilarious. Sanjay, posing as a struggling
model, woos her and then starts the most soulful, breezy love story you've
seen in a long time.

In most films, we rue that we don't feel for the characters enough to be
involved in their story…here, you care so much, you sit in fearful
anticipation at what's going to happen to the pair.

That Sanjay and Kalpana's bond is resolute, we understand not through
passionate hints, but everyday gestures…things people in love do for each
other that surprise even themselves. Kalpana selling her new prized
possession to fund Sanjay's mother's operation (a story he concocted) is
what their love is all about.

What raises Ghajini above other revenge dramas (and Hindi films have had
their fair share) is its ability to sweep us off with the tender, real
romance, and bring us back to coarse violence without much warning.
Experiencing this contrasting milieu makes the film at once a thriller, a
love tale, a drama.

The violence is gruesome yes, but Aamir excels in the action scenes, and his
wounded animal-like passion for retribution has us cheering blatantly.

Like Uma Thurman's hunger for vengeance in *Kill Bill*, wiping off any
distraction on the way, Sanjay doesn't rest till he gets to Ghajini, who, on
his part, is one of the most spine-chilling, despicable villains in recent
times. This, despite his character written as a largely single note one (the
Tamil version was a double role). Pradeep Rawat as Ghajini (he was seen as
Aswadhama in Mahabharat and Deva in Lagaan) is believably intimidating.

Aamir Khan gives a layered, intense performance yet again, and is especially
effective in the scenes where his frustration and rage is desperately
looking for direction.

Asin is the revelation here. She's a beautiful face, but that aside, the
actress renders Kalpana so spunkily, you can't help fall for the character.
Jiah Khan as the medical student Sunita who embroils herself in the clammy
situation is good, but the character seems an intrusion.

Thankfully, the resemblance to Memento (a film that Aamir had earlier
admitted to neither liking nor caring for) is restricted to the tattooed
messages, the Polaroid snaps, and the plot involving the murdered love of
the protagonist. A R Murgadoss, while skillfully crafting the story
together, sadly adds in improbable elements like Sunita risking her life to
follow Sanjay's trail, Sanjay's 15-minute memory span expanding to
accommodate a full-blown action sequence, or him getting back on his feet
despite all his clues wiped off.

Background score is persistently present and its obviousness invades into
the scope for audience interpretation. Music is one of its high points,
though one found the picturisation too conventional for AR Rahman's
experimental tunes. Ravi K Chandran's (Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi, Saawariya,
Black) first-rate camerawork aids the storytelling. Editing is masterful
and, though tad long, the film unfolds efficiently.

For the four As—Aamir, Asin, A R Murgadoss and AR Rahman, this revenge drama
gets a Grade A; recommended watching this extended weekend.



*Verdict*: Three-and-a-half stars

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regards,
Vithur

[arr] Unnoticed songs of AR in 2008

2008-12-26 Thread aneeshksasi


Hai all,

            It is very sad to say that one song of
rahman get unnoticed . These  are the songs (gems )are unnoticed not
bcoz of badness in compositions or lyrics. It  is  the fault of
producers , if they did appropriate marketing or telecasting of these
songs , thing would have been different. Example- Shannom song frm
yuvarraj. 

These are the unnoticed songs in 08 which didn't get right appreciation
.

1)Man Mohana-Jodha  akbar

2) Whole ADA album especially Mehrebban song

3) Kahin to- Jaane tu 

4) Maruddani- Sakkarakatti

Regards

ANEESH K S

Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?

Yeah... noticed it at the very first hearing... typical AR...

 The search is more important than the destination   - a r rahman -

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 10:21 AM

I am surprised you guys are figuring that out now :) 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Vithur vith...@gmail. com wrote:

absolutely true. Noticed this bro Of course you found it out 
...Good observation

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:59 AM, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ yahoo.com 
wrote:

The starting humming of guzarish is the same(almost) as the second sax 
interlude in behka behka!!

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Re: [arr] India Today reviews Ghajini 3.5/5

Does this reviewer totally forgot about the music??

 The search is more important than the destination   - a r rahman -

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] India Today reviews Ghajini 3.5/5
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 10:47 AM











 
 - 
Movie: Ghajini
Director: A.R. Murugadoss
Starring: Aamir Khan, Asin, Jiah Khan
Rating: 
The movie opens with Aamir Khan shoving a tap into a particularly evil looking 
man's gut. There's more to come. Necks are twisted, bones crushed, iron rods 
connect with heads. Imagine a South Indian movie made in Hong Kong by John 
Woo's disciples and you get close to the kind of mind-bending brutality 
unleashed in Ghajini.
Blood, thick, viscous and almost purple in colour, gushes from wounds. Eyes are 
bloodshot. Fists are bunched and ready to fly. This is a movie harrowing in its 
intensity. Yes it is adapted from Christopher Nolan's Memento and from A.R. 
Murugadoss's own Tamil version, but it is also made Aamir Khan's own, with a 
performance that is unflinching in its ability to absorb pain. There is the 
trauma of losing his memory, of seeing his girlfriend dying in front of him, of 
his own body being turned into a killing machine. Never before has a male body 
been used with such force in a Bollywood movie. 
This is not the glossy display of six pack abs and tightly packed butt that 
we've got used to. This is the body being used in vengeance, with every scrap 
of memory stored on it for recall (even the foot is not spared-the message 
there says insistently 'take the camera').
The story, as probably every Googleable person knows by now, is about a tycoon 
who goes on a mission to locate Ghajini, the man who killed his girlfriend and 
caused him to lose his long term memory. It's told in a series of non-linear 
flashbacks, the clues left in two diaries Aamir's character used to maintain, 
and in a series of other visual props, Polaroid pictures, messages written on 
his impressive chest, and words inscribed on every scrap of surface he can 
find. And in Asin, the South Indian actor who plays his girlfriend, Aamir is 
given a woman who seems worth killing for, even dying for. Channeling the other 
great export from the South, Sridevi (on a very strict diet), Asin plays a 
struggling model with a heart of gold. She's the kind who doesn't mind lying to 
get ahead in her work, but she also helps blind people cross the road and saves 
little girls from being sold for sex. She teaches our young tycoon, Aamir with 
hair, how to drink tea
 from a saucer and eat watermelons on the roadside. It is enough for us to 
believe his hair-less avatar, screaming in almost feral anger, will go to the 
ends of the earth to avenge her death.
It's a technically accomplished film. Ravi K Chandran's camera makes the old 
and winding alleys of Hyderabad come alive with menace. Resul Pookutty's sound 
effects, echoing every click and crunch, are note perfect. Stun Shiva and Peter 
Heins have invented a new language of visceral violence-Hong Kong action cooked 
on a slow burn with South Indian masala by a cook listening to some heavy 
metal. The atmosphere of the film is moody in most parts, sunny in others, but 
the overhang of tragedy just will not let go. But if your heart weighs heavy 
when Aamir holds hands with Asin's apparition at the end of the film, complete 
with sunny maple leaves falling in slow motion, just attribute it to the 
performances. With every taut nerve in his face, every pinched muscle in his 
body, Aamir conveys the pain of a man who is battling a loss without measure. 
In Pradeep Rawat's Ghajini, though, there is a sense of disappointment. Is this 
a South Indian
 villain speaking in a Haryanvi accent? Or a Haryanvi villain looking very 
South Indian?

Watch it, but keep a grip on your nerves. And the children safely tucked up in 
bed. At home.
This is brutality, choreographed by a poet, and therefore that much more 
compelling.
 
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Re: [arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

You totally got him wrong... he is NOT speaking about ARR's music at all... 
read carefully what he has written... its quiet shocking actually...

 The search is more important than the destination   - a r rahman -

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, rayrai2k ravis...@gmail.com wrote:
From: rayrai2k ravis...@gmail.com
Subject: [arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 12:28 PM

Are you questioning AR's ethics? I dont think he ripped the music 

anywhere from Memento. You should be asking the question to its 

producers and the story writers. Why AR? 

To avoid downloading and using pirated music, movie or software is 

individual ethics. 

You might be using softwares are you 100% sure that theres no pirated 

software or there is any software installed and used according to the 

norms in the agreement? 

Your question to AR can be solicited only if he had anywhere used the 

music from the predecessor. 

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, pradeepananth 

pradeepananth@ ... wrote:

 So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box office

 records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to rake

 in a lot of moolah.

 As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher

 Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the producers 

of

 Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini didn't

 quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-profile

 nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  co.

 In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and

 acquire the rights first from the original writer/director/ producers

 before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off

 others' intellectual property, why should they expect their 

audience

 to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they 

appeal

 to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they are

 doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure

 that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most

 intellectual property laws)

 Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off the

 story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder if 

he

 ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want to be

 associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights of

 another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR doesn't

 appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources and

 not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.

 Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this 

issue,

 that would be awesome.

 Thoughts?

 -pradeep

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Re: [arr] Ghajini is a dumb film that celebrates its dumbness - Rajeev Masand

Can I ask why are we posing these reviews which don't even care to mention a 
single word about the music?? After all this is ARR's group  not Ghajini or 
Aamir's... 

 The search is more important than the destination   - a r rahman -

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: [arr] Ghajini is a dumb film that celebrates its dumbness - Rajeev 
Masand
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 7:05 PM

Plays it safe..doesnt mentions anything about the music...

He gives it 3/5

http://ibnlive. in.com/news/ masands-verdict- ghajini-is- dumb-and- celebrates- 
it/81344- 8.html

Cast: Aamir Khan, Asin, Jiah Khan

Director: AR Murgadoss

Watching him in Ghajini, I don't think I've seen Aamir Khan having this much 
fun as an actor in a long time. 

It's an old-fashioned entertainer with a half-convincing plot, packed with 
enough gratuitous violence to qualify as a B-movie really; and like the most 
popular B-movies ever, the biggest strength of Ghajini lies in the fact that 
it's a fast-moving roller-coaster ride that seldom gives you a moment to stop 
and think how stupid it might actually be. 

In a premise clearly inspired by Christopher Nolan's Memento, Aamir Khan plays 
Sanjay Singhania, a hot-shot industrialist who turns into an obsessed killing 
machine dedicated to tracking down his girlfriend's killer. Having been hit on 
the head with an iron rod, he suffers from short-term memory loss and can't 
remember anything for longer than 15 minutes; as a result he must tattoo his 
body with instructions that will lead him to his prey. 

Abandoning Memento's fantastic non-linear narrative and opting for the more 
conventional flashback device, writer-director AR Murgadoss throws in an 
engaging back-story in the form of leading lady Asin (playing smalltime model 
Kalpana) and a love story brimming with originality and the kind of gentleness 
that you don't see at the movies anymore. It's a romance that takes you by 
surprise, and to an extent puts the film's intense action into perspective too. 

Faithful remake of the director's Tamil blockbuster, Ghajini is over-the-top 
and exaggerated in its comedy, its action and its drama, but what irks you most 
are the half-dozen or so creative liberties and coincidences that the makers 
resort to, in order to bail themselves out of tricky screenplay situations. 
Here's a little sample - you're expected to believe that Sanjay Singhania is a 
well-known millionaire industrialist, and yet no one has seen him in pictures 
or in person. 

Logical loopholes like these would be the albatross of any half-decent film, 
but Ghajini works despite its shortcomings because it's a reliably dumb film 
that is unpretentious in its intentions. Unlike many dumb films that take 
themselves way too seriously, Ghajini is a dumb film that celebrates its 
dumbness. 

Of course much of the film's appeal lies in watching leading man Aamir Khan 
approach his role with an unmatched fervor. Whether it's beefing up for the 
part, or oozing that schoolboy charm, or then the manner in which he explodes 
in rage each time he's reminded of Kalpana's brutal death, you can't take your 
eyes off the screen when he's up there. 

He finds a worthy nemesis in Pradeep Rawat who plays bad guy Ghajini, your 
stereoptypical 80s Bollywood villain, complete with gold chains, white shoes 
and menacing sneer. Rawat is decidedly loathsome, especially in the scene in 
which he enjoys watching our hero writhe helplessly as he offs his girlfriend 
in front of his eyes. 

At the emotional heart of the film is Tamil actress Asin making her Bollywood 
debut as the mischievous, happy-go-lucky Kalpana, who benefits from a 
superbly-written character that is hard to get out of your head even when the 
film's ended. Asin has undeniable screen presence and such joie de vivre that 
you can immediately relate with the hero's anguish over losing her. 

In a thankfully small role as the medical student who helps our hero achieve 
his goal is Jiah Khan who has a screechy voice and a forgettable presence. 

Ghajini isn't a particularly good film, but entertainment it delivers by the 
bucketful. At a running time of 3 hours, the film seldom drags and therein lies 
its victory. For the Singh Is Kinng generation, here's another time pass 
entertainer. 

I'm going with three out of five for director A R Murgadoss' Ghajini, this is 
Aamir Khan's way of telling us, 'Anything that Shah Rukh or Akshay can do, I 
can do just as well.' 

Watch it for the ride. 

Rating: 3 / 5 (Good)

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2008-12-26 Thread jamshid TC

This movie should be appreciated!! Huge hardwork behind by murugadoss and crew!!
Excellent watch. I havn't watched rahman's songs so well placed in a movie 
after Rang De basanti!!
 
 
Music: ARR never woke up from his chair behind!!
Flaws: Jia Khan.
 
-Jamshid

[arr] [RM] I try to imbibe Rahman Sir's simplicity - Dance Master KALA

Dance Master Kala in Rahmania - Part II

I have always found it comfortable to work with Director Balachander Sir,
who is my Guru. He is my favourite and I am very comfortable working with
him. He encourages women a lot and help them grow in their career. I havent
received any scoldings from him till date, and on the other hand he has
pointed at me thereby praising him and idolising at me.

I have worked with Suhasini Maniratnam in Indra. Acham Acham Illai song was
done by me. Its a very beautfiful song, and can never be forgotten in life.
The speciality with Rahman Sir is that he gives us something which we would
not have thought of. There is no greatness in giving a song which everyone
would have thought of. Many Music Directors compose music,and we can predict
that they would follow a particular style, but with Rahman Sir, it would be
entirely different between what we think and what he does. His songs become
more and more likeable as we keep hearing them again  and again. When I met
Suhasini Maam in her office, I listened to the song there and started liking
it at the first instance, as I also do have lot of patriotic feelings in me.
The shooting of this song was done at a place far off from Tambaram, with a
group of students whom I organised with. Each and every word of that song
was enjoyable and gave a different experience and happiness. We would have
given formations similar to butterfly and also similar to India Map.

Ratchagan - Soniya Soniya

In that film, all choreographers took more than 12 days for finishing the
song. There were some Union problems during that time, and hence they
decided to shoot the film in Hyderabad. They told me that they would give me
just 5 days for getting the song done. I was very upset and it was Nagarjuna
Sir, who gave me comfort by saying that he had faith in me and we would do
it very well. Rahman Sir didnt give us the full song, but gave us an outline
of the track. He gave a lot of beauty to our movements through that song. In
the BGMs also, he had just given an outline without the violins etc. I
observe all his violin works with proper care, before I compose my dance
sequences. I can never forget the way the song came out and also the dance
sequence.

Vande Mataram

It was an opportunity which literally came to me, but went off from me, for
which I really feel bad. It was Mr. Bala from Bombay who did the shooting of
the song. They came to Chennai and discussed everything with me and left to
Mumbai. I think the main problem was that they felt that the song would have
suited well if it would have been done by Mumbai Choreographers. Then Mrs.
Bala called on me ( I have done a lot of ads for them before ) and said that
they wanted some North Indian Choreographers who would be doing it to suit
it better. Its the only song which I always think I have missed doing
choregraphy. You take any songs till date, but a song like Vande Mataram can
never be done.

Similarly, for Kalaignar Karunanidhi's Function, there was a dance
programme, where Rahman Sir was standing in a corner and singing. I felt
that it was like a shooting experience to me. Almost many songs of his, I
used to feel that I could have done the same.

Even in Telugu movies, I have done some movies of His.

Many Actors  Actresses used to be scary of Rahman Sir's songs, with the
belief that it would be really tough to dance to his tunes. Even big and
senior choreographers have opined that its very tough to understand the
beats in his songs. But, I always like his songs and always select his songs
when I do stage performance. I have done Margazhi Thingal from Sangamam on
stage, and it was a great opportunity to me. I learnt a lot from Rahman Sir
about his humility, and try to imbibe his qualities. Even now, after we met
in Filmfare Awards, he greets everyone with simplicity with love and care.



-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

2008-12-26 Thread Kalimuthu

Agree with Gomzy here.
Movie is OKAY. I loved Jamal's (Kid artist) performance - oh, you have
mentioned this too. :)


On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote:

   Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is
 about :)
 But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a
 heart touching, soul stirring
 movie to be silly.

 But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it
 for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The
 small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of
 AB ).


  




-- 
Sent from my very old 386 machine.

[arr] This year reconfirmed that Rahman is a terrific headhunter

The year AR Rahman scored big for emperors and slumdogs


This year reconfirmed that Rahman is a terrific headhunter, says Lalitha
Suhasini

Earlier this month, I found myself roaming the streets of Dimapur, a
nondescript, dusty city in Nagaland whose youth is fanatical about all forms
of metal—white, death, thrash, speed; the heavier the riffs, the better.
Posters of an upcoming White Lion concert were plastered all over town but
there was no sign of Bollywood. Hell, the place didn't even have a movie
hall. I bumped into a mobile download store at every corner—you could even
download tones at the local *paan* store. So it was surreal when I saw a kid
blast the *Yuvvraaj* number *Tu Meri Dost Hai* off his mobile.
Every year, there's an anthem that endorses A.R. Rahman's talent. This year
there were several, including the one our young man in Dimapur downloaded.
Sixteen years into his career as a composer, 2008 turned out to be a
watershed with the largest number of Bollywood releases till date for
Rahman. He also launched KM Music Conservatory (KMMC) to train students in
Western and Indian classical music soon after he launched his label KM
Musiq. The fee is hefty but the composer has made sure there are grants and
subsidized packages for deserving students. Rahman even engaged KMMC faculty
in film soundtracks this year. So, Kavita Baliga, who teaches vocals, did
the operatic parts in *Guzarish* from *Ghajini* and V.R. Sekar with Elidh
Martin, who teach the cello, are featured in the soundtrack of *Yuvvraaj*.
I'm sure students will show up on soundtrack credits soon.
I remember Rahman sounding like an expectant dad as 2007 wound to a close—he
was happy to announce that he had a slew of releases lined up for the new
year. *Jaane Tu...Ya Jaane Na* had been held up over for a little more than
a year due to production snags; *Jodhaa Akbar*, which was under production,
had been pushed from 2007 to 2008; a Subhash Ghai project was yet to be
titled (*Yuvvraaj*); and there was *Ghajini*. *Dilli 6* made it to his list
as well but it is still under production and is now slated to be a 2009
release. *Ada: A Way of Life* and *Slumdog Millionaire* were the two big
surprises.
With*Ada*, Rahman, the geek that he is, opened himself up to a tech
innovation: He allowed virtually anybody to remix two numbers (*Gulfisha*and
*Gumsum*) off the film's score via Nokia's XpressMusic website. It was
another first for Rahman, another leap into the future. *Gulfisha*, sung by
Sonu Nigam, made a lot of noise but soon made way for the bigger hits in
Abbas Tyrewala's directorial debut.
http://www.livemint.com/2008/12/26214614/The-year-AR-Rahman-scored-big.html?h=B
-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [arr] Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread Pradeepan R

first of all, Ghajini is NOT Memento.
Memento is an all time great movie, Ghajini is a cheap attempt to use the
concept of short term memory loss and mix it with our usual Masala. The
story lines / plot  the whole objective of Memento is nowhere there in
Ghajini. So your question is not applicable in the 1st place.

2ndly, ARR has nothing to do with any movie's storylines  their sources.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:25 AM, pradeepananth pradeepana...@yahoo.comwrote:

   So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box office
 records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to rake
 in a lot of moolah.

 As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
 Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the producers of
 Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini didn't
 quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-profile
 nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  co.

 In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
 acquire the rights first from the original writer/director/producers
 before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
 others' intellectual property, why should they expect their audience
 to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they appeal
 to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they are
 doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure
 that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
 intellectual property laws)

 Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off the
 story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder if he
 ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want to be
 associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights of
 another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR doesn't
 appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources and
 not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.

 Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this issue,
 that would be awesome.

 Thoughts?
 -pradeep

 




-- 
Cheers,
Pradeepan.

All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
!

[arr] Music by A.R.Rahman gels well

Starring: Aamir Khan, Asin, Jiah Khan

Direction: A.R. Murugadoss

Music: A.R. Rahman

Production: Tagore Madhu, Madhu Mantena

Aamir Khan, the perfectionist is back with his new movie Ghajini. And for
the first time in his career he has acted in a South remake. As always the
marketing push by Aamir was exhilarating. The marketing done for the movie
can be taken as a case study in many b schools as it tried uncharted
terrains. With such a brilliant plan converted into hype, it made Ghajini
the most sought after title to be released this season. Has it lived up to
its humongous expectations? A definite Yes!
This Hindi remake of the Tamil Ghajini which was again an inspiration from
Hollywood's Memento pleased everyone with a tight screenplay and a top notch
performance from the lead actors.

The movie is about Sanjay(Aamir), a millionaire, who falls in love with
Kalpana(Asin) a model. Kalpana gets into a hustle with a local gunda,
Ghajini, who kills her and hits Sanjay with a rod which makes him a short
term memory loss patient. Now Sanjay should fight against all odds to avenge
the death of his beloved. How he does it with the help of a medical student
Sunita (Jiah) forms the rest of the story.

Audiences who have seen the Tamil version can get a little bored as
A.R.Murugadoss has made very few changes to the script and scenes until the
last 30 minutes. The screenplay is well laced with interesting events which
makes the 3 hours running time well worth the ride. What, When and How are
questions you should never ask in any masala movie, but there are a few
scenes which does sparkle against its Tamil version. The last 30 minutes for
instance is very good when compared to the Tamil version whose climax was
literally laughable.

Cinematography by Ravi K. Chandran is a major plus, as the pro has fully
utilized the freedom the director has given and come up with stylish
presentation of the scenes and innovatively captured songs sequences. Behka
and Ae Bhachu song will surely sparkle in his already sparkling repertoire.
His last see-saw camera movement at the fag end of the movie is just poetic.
Editing is top notch. Stunts are choreographed brilliantly as it relies more
on raw power than over the top flying antics. Music by A.R.Rahman gels well
with the overall feel of the movie, Ghuzarish, Behka and all the other songs
are brilliant compositions from the master musician but the background score
is jarring at times, especially the Villian's BG which is certainly not
expected from the Maestro.

Aamir lives the role of Sanjay Singhania. If Vikram took a dog as an
inspiration for his portrayal in Pithamagan, Aamir has taken a tiger for
inspiration. His acting in the pulse pounding climax is a proof of how
matured an actor he is; the pain, the intensity, the anger he showed here is
so high that we could actually believe that the wound and damage attained by
the strong henchmen of the villain is actually possible. As the
sophisticated millionaire he is dignified and looks very handsome. His
overly debated 8 packs has been flaunted effectively which is quite needed
for the movie. Asin has done her role with élan, but the chirpiness in the
Tamil version was missing a wee bit in this version but still a strong debut
in Bollywood- kudos. Jiah Khan has a meaty role and she has used the
opportunity to the fullest. She is a complete natural. Pradeep Rawant as
Ghajini has done a brilliant job, much better than the Tamil Ghajini. Riaaz
Khan who again dons the inspector role was over the top most of the time and
a complete let down

Overall the movie is a well packaged action masala entertainer, with some
great acting, a tight screenplay, great music and some extraordinary action
which makes it a complete paisa vasool. Go for it.
http://streetromeo.wordpress.com/2008/12/25/112/

-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] Indian Express interviews ARR on SdM

2008-12-26 Thread ramakrisha laxmana subramanian siva gopala acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni .

Notesmith
Font Size  
Dipti Nagpaul D’Souza Posted: Dec 25, 2008 at 0230 hrs IST
A R Rahman’s getting used to the recognition Slumdog Millionaire  has got him  
Do the international recognition and Golden Globe and likely Oscar nomination 
for Slumdog Millionaire feel surreal? 
I
hadn’t imagined when I first made the music that it’ll be such a huge
success. But I was optimistic after watching the rough cut of the film
that Danny Boyle sent me. A lot has happened since and the music has
already won accolades. But honestly, I’m happier about the success of
the film as a whole. 
How did you get the film?
Danny had been tracking my
music for some time. In fact, every time he liked a Bollywood score it
turned out to be mine. So he planned to have me do a part of the
project. But I told him that I’d either do it all or none. And he
understood that I was asking for it because I could not put half a
heart into the project and give him one score. I wanted to give it my
all. Also, Anil Kapoor’s kids were instrumental in convincing the team
to take me on for the project. 
How involved was Danny Boyle?
To start with, I tried
to see the film through his eyes. I found out what he does or doesn’t
like about Bollywood films and their music. After an initial
discussion, I e-mailed him four different ideas. He liked three of the
four options; we then started interacting more. I kept sending him
stuff and made a few short trips to London to meet him and finish the
project.  
You’ve pushed the envelope with Slumdog, giving it a racy edge. 
There
was stuff I’d wanted to do for a long time but could never try them in
our film industry. When Slumdog happened, I saw it as the perfect
opportunity to utilise those ideas, especially since I’d been given so
much freedom to experiment. I then added to the music elements that
would surprise the audience. Indian audiences however, may find it too
noisy. I don’t think I can ever use this kind of music for our films
because Indians like to listen to music again and again and this may
not suit their palate. 
How did you manage to complete the music in three weeks?
Danny
was also concerned about the same. You can say I concentrated the
energy of three months into those three weeks. It was hard work indeed,
and I didn’t touch any other project at that time. It worked because we
all really wanted it to work. 
Your work with artiste M.I.A. on O Saya is being applauded. How was the 
equation? 
It
was great. And, it all started with a joke. M.I.A. said, ‘You always do
romantic and sentimental music and my work’s very edgy. Let’s do a role
reversal.’ I then sent her the music online — she didn’t even know the
track because though she was present for the initial sittings, she had
to later return since she was pregnant—and she sent me her work back.
We then mixed it all together and it worked fabulously. 
What’s your opinion of the film? 
After Bandit Queen,
this is the first film I have so much hope from. I like the
contemporary touch and the technical work is commendable. The spirit of
the city has been captured very well though there’s more resemblance
with Mumbai in the past. 
Be
it music, screenplay or storyline, a right balance has been maintained.
When the film was being made, Warner Bros, which has invested in it,
was not even supposed to release it—there was only a DVD release
scheduled. But then the response was so great that they decided to take
it across

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/notesmith/402714/0

[arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original, the 
basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the H'wood 
flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.








--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pradeepananth 
pradeepana...@... wrote:

 So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box office
 records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to rake
 in a lot of moolah.
 
 As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
 Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the producers 
of
 Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini didn't
 quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-profile
 nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  co.
 
 In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
 acquire the rights first from the original writer/director/producers
 before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
 others' intellectual property, why should they expect their 
audience
 to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they 
appeal
 to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they are
 doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure
 that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
 intellectual property laws)
 
 
 Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off the
 story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder if 
he
 ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want to be
 associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights of
 another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR doesn't
 appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources and
 not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
 
 Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this 
issue,
 that would be awesome.
 
 Thoughts?
 -pradeep

Re: [arr] Music by A.R.Rahman gels well

2008-12-26 Thread V S Rawat

On 12/26/2008 10:54 PM India Time, _Vithur_ wrote:

 Audiences who have seen the Tamil version can get a little bored as 
 A.R.Murugadoss has made very few changes to the script and scenes until 
 the last 30 minutes. The screenplay is well laced with interesting 
 events which makes the 3 hours running time well worth the ride. What, 
 When and How are questions you should never ask in any masala movie, but 
 there are a few scenes which does sparkle against its Tamil version. The 
 last 30 minutes for instance is very good when compared to the Tamil 
 version whose climax was literally laughable.

Could someone please highlight the differences in Tamil movie and Hindi 
movie? What was this 30 min climax in Tamil movie and what was the 
situations of songs in Tamil version?

--
Rawat

[arr] Re: Indian Express interviews ARR on SdM

2008-12-26 Thread ramakrisha laxmana subramanian siva gopala acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni .

With every interview, you get to know new Info about the movie and 
the music. 



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... 
wrote:

 Notesmith
 Font Size  
 Dipti Nagpaul DâSouza Posted: Dec 25, 2008 at 0230 hrs IST
 A R Rahmanâs getting used to the recognition Slumdog Millionaire  
has got him  
 Do the international recognition and Golden Globe and likely Oscar 
nomination for Slumdog Millionaire feel surreal? 
 I
 hadnât imagined when I first made the music that itâll be such 
a huge
 success. But I was optimistic after watching the rough cut of the 
film
 that Danny Boyle sent me. A lot has happened since and the music has
 already won accolades. But honestly, Iâm happier about the 
success of
 the film as a whole. 
 How did you get the film?
 Danny had been tracking my
 music for some time. In fact, every time he liked a Bollywood score 
it
 turned out to be mine. So he planned to have me do a part of the
 project. But I told him that Iâd either do it all or none. And he
 understood that I was asking for it because I could not put half a
 heart into the project and give him one score. I wanted to give it 
my
 all. Also, Anil Kapoorâs kids were instrumental in convincing the 
team
 to take me on for the project. 
 How involved was Danny Boyle?
 To start with, I tried
 to see the film through his eyes. I found out what he does or 
doesnât
 like about Bollywood films and their music. After an initial
 discussion, I e-mailed him four different ideas. He liked three of 
the
 four options; we then started interacting more. I kept sending him
 stuff and made a few short trips to London to meet him and finish 
the
 project.  
 Youâve pushed the envelope with Slumdog, giving it a racy edge. 
 There
 was stuff Iâd wanted to do for a long time but could never try 
them in
 our film industry. When Slumdog happened, I saw it as the perfect
 opportunity to utilise those ideas, especially since Iâd been 
given so
 much freedom to experiment. I then added to the music elements that
 would surprise the audience. Indian audiences however, may find it 
too
 noisy. I donât think I can ever use this kind of music for our 
films
 because Indians like to listen to music again and again and this may
 not suit their palate. 
 How did you manage to complete the music in three weeks?
 Danny
 was also concerned about the same. You can say I concentrated the
 energy of three months into those three weeks. It was hard work 
indeed,
 and I didnât touch any other project at that time. It worked 
because we
 all really wanted it to work. 
 Your work with artiste M.I.A. on O Saya is being applauded. How was 
the equation? 
 It
 was great. And, it all started with a joke. M.I.A. said, âYou 
always do
 romantic and sentimental music and my workâs very edgy. Letâs 
do a role
 reversal.â I then sent her the music online â she didnât even 
know the
 track because though she was present for the initial sittings, she 
had
 to later return since she was pregnantâand she sent me her work 
back.
 We then mixed it all together and it worked fabulously. 
 Whatâs your opinion of the film? 
 After Bandit Queen,
 this is the first film I have so much hope from. I like the
 contemporary touch and the technical work is commendable. The 
spirit of
 the city has been captured very well though thereâs more 
resemblance
 with Mumbai in the past. 
 Be
 it music, screenplay or storyline, a right balance has been 
maintained.
 When the film was being made, Warner Bros, which has invested in it,
 was not even supposed to release itâthere was only a DVD release
 scheduled. But then the response was so great that they decided to 
take
 it across
 
 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/notesmith/402714/0

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I know why the
westeners
are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told before and I
as an
Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at certain points.

Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a british
accent.How can
i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what i tried to
say. My two cents :)

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam matthewis...@gmail.comwrote:

   I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that
 it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about
 is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force
 that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones
 which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left
 the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not
 an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't
 heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before.
 Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a
 dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It
 displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human
 nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico
 report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their
 hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is
 about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to
 think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's
 cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a
 film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they
 appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so
 different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends
 to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get
 the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality.


 My two cents.
 Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for
 by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good
 one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great
 instinct about films.

 Regards,
 Matthew Islam

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
 countries it was never before told experience/story.

 me too, loved kid Jamal the most!

 There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits,
 loved that as well :D

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote:
 
  Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss
 is about
  :)
  But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we
 find a
  heart touching, soul stirring
  movie to be silly.
 
  But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go
 watch it
  for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
 Jamal. The
  small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
 autograph of
  AB ).

Re: [arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

Now lets use your logic for something better.

ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt wanna name
the MDs who use the studio.
Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy or rip off
some guys music? (they are btw)

Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner possible and
holding that against him.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian siva gopala
acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
sriramiye...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

   What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original, the
 basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the H'wood
 flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 pradeepananth
 pradeepana...@... wrote:
 
  So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box office
  records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to rake
  in a lot of moolah.
 
  As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
  Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the producers
 of
  Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini didn't
  quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-profile
  nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  co.
 
  In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
  acquire the rights first from the original writer/director/producers
  before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
  others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
 audience
  to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
 appeal
  to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they are
  doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure
  that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
  intellectual property laws)
 
 
  Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off the
  story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder if
 he
  ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want to be
  associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights of
  another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR doesn't
  appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources and
  not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
 
  Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
 issue,
  that would be awesome.
 
  Thoughts?
  -pradeep

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

2008-12-26 Thread Matthew Islam

Hmm. That is a fair point. Hadn't thought of it that way. My friends and I
were so gripped by the film that it didn't cross our mind. Thats pretty
clever. Use some hindi and a lot of english.and  some people would
not notice...like us. Fair point. I get it. I assumed otherwise because
I saw it with a few Bangladeshi's and Indians and they were gripped and we
didn't question this. I hope it does well in India though when it comes out
in January. Its got a LAagan type energy to it that makes me think, it will
do well.

Time will tell...

Matthew

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote:

   Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I know why
 the westeners
 are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told before and
 I as an
 Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at certain points.

 Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a british
 accent.How can
 i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what i tried
 to say. My two cents :)

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam matthewis...@gmail.comwrote:

   I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact
 that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving
 about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such
 force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are
 ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have
 left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's
 not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we
 haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard
 before.
 Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a
 dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It
 displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human
 nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico
 report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their
 hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is
 about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to
 think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's
 cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a
 film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they
 appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so
 different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends
 to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get
 the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality.


 My two cents.
 Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for
 by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good
 one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great
 instinct about films.

 Regards,
 Matthew Islam

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
 countries it was never before told experience/story.

 me too, loved kid Jamal the most!

 There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits,
 loved that as well :D

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote:
 
  Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss
 is about
  :)
  But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we
 find a
  heart touching, soul stirring
  movie to be silly.
 
  But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go
 watch it
  for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
 Jamal. The
  small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
 autograph of
  AB ).

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

2008-12-26 Thread brijesh.anantharam

Guys, moving further, I thought Mumbai was amazingly captured by
Anthony Dod Mantle with 3 different kinds of camera(including a SLR) I
hope ARR and Mantle get the nod for oscar nominations.

About BGM, Rahman has tweaked a lot especially on O saya and Mausam
and escape which actually sounds amazing, different from the
soundtrack on CD. Now I want the rip of DVD version when it gets released


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam
matthewis...@... wrote:

 Hmm. That is a fair point. Hadn't thought of it that way. My friends
and I
 were so gripped by the film that it didn't cross our mind. Thats pretty
 clever. Use some hindi and a lot of english.and  some people
would
 not notice...like us. Fair point. I get it. I assumed otherwise
because
 I saw it with a few Bangladeshi's and Indians and they were gripped
and we
 didn't question this. I hope it does well in India though when it
comes out
 in January. Its got a LAagan type energy to it that makes me think,
it will
 do well.
 
 Time will tell...
 
 Matthew
 
 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote:
 
Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I
know why
  the westeners
  are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told
before and
  I as an
  Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at
certain points.
 
  Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a
british
  accent.How can
  i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what
i tried
  to say. My two cents :)
 
  On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam
matthewis...@...wrote:
 
I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact
  that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people
are raving
  about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The
narrative has such
  force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful
films are
  ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after
you have
  left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a
smile. Yes, it's
  not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one
that we
  haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we
have heard
  before.
  Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over
such a
  dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It
  displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your
inner human
  nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in
Mexico
  report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from
their
  hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss
therefore is
  about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially
westerners (to
  think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's
  cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film.
So when a
  film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western
world they
  appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so
  different than the formula films or negative toned films that the
west tends
  to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when
you can get
  the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality.
 
 
  My two cents.
  Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he
composes for
  by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie
from a good
  one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he
has a great
  instinct about films.
 
  Regards,
  Matthew Islam
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote:
 
   Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
  countries it was never before told experience/story.
 
  me too, loved kid Jamal the most!
 
  There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end
credits,
  loved that as well :D
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote:
  
   Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss
  is about
   :)
   But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we
  find a
   heart touching, soul stirring
   movie to be silly.
  
   But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go
  watch it
   for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
  Jamal. The
   small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
  autograph of
   AB ).

[arr] Music and Romance amidst Action/Violence: Ghajini

2008-12-26 Thread V S Rawat

The film is about Action/ Violence and that is how it was advertized. In 
the ads there was hardly any hint of such a long romance between the 
duo. The open suspense was that Aamir's GF got killed and Aamir is out 
to take revenge. The body visuals of Aamir added to the same feel - he 
looked like a killing machine.

So, when a viewer reached the theaters expecting a full meal of Action/ 
Violence, how would he react when he is served 50% of meal as Romance 
and Music.

The prevalent logic says that the viewer would be disappointed, would 
feel cheated and would find that the romance was forced and superficial 
and the music is the speedbreaker of a fast paced film.

But wait. Ghajini proved the above logic wrong.

Why?

1. Asin. She made all her scenes natural, spontaneous, down-to-earth, 
lovely, enjoyable. Recall - when Aamir says he is busy and can't come, 
she remarks - Do joote maroongi... - ha ha ha. And the millionaire 
billionaire Aamir receiving the gift of some 1.42 lakh rupees from a 
struggler for the medication of his mother, he could help getting sold 
to her.

2. Aamir. He has put a lot of efforts in the movie. So much, that it 
would even discourage the teenagers who dream of a film/modelling career 
to fetch easy money, easy girls, fame. Aamir has shown that acting is 
not just by dancing around the trees. Aamir has performed such a stuff 
in reality that might have brought a thought of using the special 
graphics efforts. And not just his body when he became killing machine. 
His body in his earlier business tycoon part also looks well-maintained 
- all those pecs, all that bare chest, thin waist in gujarish was giving 
no clue that this guy is in 40s.

3. RAHMAN. This was a rare music which never became a speedbreaker in a 
fast paced action/ violence drama. I am not able to visualize any other 
Indian MD being able to give a music which would have merged so 
seamlessly in such a movie. Though, due credit is to be given to the 
director, choreographer, cinematographer for the lovely visuals - still 
the soul of this music is conceived by our man.

btw, I had earlier said that visuals might help in understanding the 
significance of Lattoo and Bachchoo, but after seeing the movie, I find 
that visuals didn't help in me liking those songs any more. It was no 
rookhi-sookhi roti visual. First song appeared after half an hour (I saw 
the time). Till then, the movie was only action/violence part. Then Asin 
enters - and suddenly breaks up into Lattoo (or was it bachchoo?)

It was supposed to release the tensions inculcated in first half hour. 
But no. It didn't. The fast paced song with cheap lyrics didn't help in 
that. It was just a song. Did anyone notice the parallel with Ho Ja 
Rangeela Rey? A wannabe actress daydreaming that the world is singing 
with her. But this latto or bachchoo was not the palest shade of 
Rangeela song - neither in music, nor in visual.

It was revealed earlier in this list that the director had specifically 
asked ARR to give two such songs - sort of, with sadak-chhap lyrics, 
catchy music, and ARR delivered just that. But I think director was 
wrong in demanding that. Asin looks so elegant and decent that the 
cheapness of the song didn't gel with her persona. If the director has 
explained the situation correctly and given ARR freedom, ARR would have 
come up with a Ho-Ja-Rangeela song for the situation.
--

Behka appeared exactly after 1 hour into the movie (I saw the time 
again), beautifully done. Quite fitting for the situation, though a 
shade open and overt and extrovert for a shy, serious Aamir till then 
who was not likely to fall such head and tail into love with a 
compulsive liar girl in spite of the good samaritan alterego of her, but 
the song is so lovely that nobody is complaining.

Guzarish song soon after interval. The most advertised song of the 
album. Good situation. Good picturization. Good Aamir.

And Kaise mujhe first part later on when Asin gives Aamir the bundle of 
notes. Kaise mujhe tune, melody, lyrics, mood, were 101% fit for the 
state of mind Aamir (and the viewers) were in at that very moment. I 
have stopped wondering how ARR catches such emotions of viewers and 
packs them in his songs.

And Kaise mujhe female part further later, that didn't really fit as 
well as the first half, but nobody is complaining for such a good song. 
Director is not god, he can't bring 101% perfect situation every time.

My bad. forgetting the situation of one song. Could someone please 
clarify whether the first song was latttoo or bachchhoo, and then where 
the other of these two was placed?
--

btw, I am surprised to see so less no. of mails about Ghajini movie. 
Earlier films of ARR this year fetched many more mails. What is cooking?
--
Rawat

[arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread vivek


Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware 
that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.

Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly and 
intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists - 
international or domestic.

well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of 
terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just gave 
them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they 
do. Do you think it is acceptable?

A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but I am 
not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no 
wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is 
giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you see, 
morals are subjective. oh yeah right! 

technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but...

laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment.
laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced.


Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not blind 
our own judgement.






--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... 
wrote:

 Now lets use your logic for something better.
 
 ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt 
wanna name
 the MDs who use the studio.
 Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy 
or rip off
 some guys music? (they are btw)
 
 Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner 
possible and
 holding that against him.
 
 On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian 
siva gopala
 acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
 sriramiye...@... wrote:
 
What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original, 
the
  basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the 
H'wood
  flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.
 
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%
40yahoogroups.com,
  pradeepananth
  pradeepananth@ wrote:
  
   So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box 
office
   records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to 
rake
   in a lot of moolah.
  
   As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
   Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the 
producers
  of
   Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini 
didn't
   quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-
profile
   nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss  
co.
  
   In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
   acquire the rights first from the original 
writer/director/producers
   before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
   others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
  audience
   to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
  appeal
   to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they 
are
   doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty 
sure
   that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
   intellectual property laws)
  
  
   Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off 
the
   story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder 
if
  he
   ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want 
to be
   associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights 
of
   another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR 
doesn't
   appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources 
and
   not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
  
   Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
  issue,
   that would be awesome.
  
   Thoughts?
   -pradeep

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

2008-12-26 Thread vivek


as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies 
along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty 
bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because 
ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I 
think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you 
blind you see. 

Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was 
memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and 
challenges to channel his creative blood and energy.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... 
wrote:

 I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the 
fact  
 that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people 
are  
 raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The  
 narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your  
 senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an 
experience  
 that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most 
people  
 I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. 
In  
 todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but 
what  
 a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before.
 Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over 
such a  
 dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. 
It  
 displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your 
inner  
 human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to 
ones  
 in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a 
movie  
 from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The  
 fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know 
already,  
 especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing 
is  
 ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for 
the  
 makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like 
this  
 shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the 
brilliance  
 of the work on display that is so different than the formula films 
or  
 negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of 
that  
 natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from  
 stories that are a little more close to reality.
 
 
 My two cents.
 Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he 
composes  
 for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie 
from  
 a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I 
know  
 he has a great instinct about films.
 
 Regards,
 Matthew Islam
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote:
 
  Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
  countries it was never before told experience/story.
 
  me too, loved kid Jamal the most!
 
  There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end 
credits,
  loved that as well :D
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzyâ¢ 
gomtesh.upadhye@  
  wrote:
  
   Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the 
fuss
  is about
   :)
   But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies 
that we
  find a
   heart touching, soul stirring
   movie to be silly.
  
   But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. 
Go
  watch it
   for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
  Jamal. The
   small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
  autograph of
   AB ).

Re: [arr] Unnoticed songs of AR in 2008

2008-12-26 Thread Anil Nair

Who didn't notice these songs?
Well ARR fans ..all of us have lapped it up ...so no worries there ...
As for other people, forget them - consider it their misfortune ...no need
to feel sad :-)

-A

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:42 AM, aneeshksasi aneeshks...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hai all,

 It is very sad to say that one song of rahman get unnoticed .
 These  are the songs (gems )are unnoticed not bcoz of badness in
 compositions or lyrics. It  is  the fault of producers , if they did
 appropriate marketing or telecasting of these songs , thing would have been
 different. Example- Shannom song frm yuvarraj.

 These are the unnoticed songs in 08 which didn't get right appreciation .

 1)Man Mohana-Jodha  akbar

 2) Whole ADA album especially Mehrebban song

 3) Kahin to- Jaane tu

 4) Maruddani- Sakkarakatti

 Regards

 ANEESH K S

  




-- 
-A
http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com

[arr] AR Rahman scored big for emperors and slumdogs

AR Rahman scored big for emperors and slumdogs
BY LALITHA SUHASINI

Mint Lounge, 27 december, 2008

E arlier this month, I found myself roaming the streets of Dimapur, a 
nondescript, dusty city in Nagaland whose youth is fanatical about all forms of 
metal—white, death, thrash, speed; the heavier the riffs, the better. Posters 
of an upcoming White Lion concert were plastered all over town but there was no 
sign of Bollywood. Hell, the place didn’t even have a movie hall. I bumped into 
a mobile download store at every corner—you could even download tones at the 
local paan store. So it was surreal when I saw a kid blast the Yuvvraaj number 
Tu Meri Dost Hai off his mobile.

Every year, there’s an anthem that endorses A.R. Rahman’s talent. This year 
there were several, including the one our young man in Dimapur downloaded. 
Sixteen years into his career as a composer, 2008 turned out to be a watershed 
with the largest number of Bollywood releases till date for Rahman. He also 
launched KM Music Conservatory (KMMC) to train students in Western and Indian 
classical music soon after he launched his label KM Musiq. The fee is hefty but 
the composer has made sure there are grants and subsidized packages for 
deserving students. Rahman even engaged KMMC faculty in film soundtracks this 
year. So, Kavita Baliga, who teaches vocals, did the operatic parts in Guzarish 
from Ghajini and V.R.

Sekar with Elidh Martin, who teach the cello, are featured in the soundtrack of 
Yuvvraaj. I’m sure students will show up on soundtrack credits soon.

I remember Rahman sounding like an expectant dad as 2007 wound to a close—he 
was happy to announce that he had a slew of releases lined up for the new year. 
Jaane Tu...Ya Jaane Na had been held up over for a little more than a year due 
to production snags; Jodhaa Akbar, which was under production, had been pushed 
from 2007 to 2008; a Subhash Ghai project was yet to be titled (Yuvvraaj); and 
there was Ghajini. Dilli 6 made it to his list as well but it is still under 
production and is now slated to be a 2009 release. Ada: A Way of Life and 
Slumdog Millionaire were the two big surprises.

With Ada, Rahman, the geek that he is, opened himself up to a tech innovation: 
He allowed virtually anybody to remix two numbers (Gulfisha and Gumsum) off the 
film’s score via Nokia’s XpressMusic website. It was another first for Rahman, 
another leap into the future. Gulfisha, sung by Sonu Nigam, made a lot of noise 
but soon made way for the bigger hits in Abbas Tyrewala’s directorial debut.

Jaane Tu...Ya Jaane Na was an album cut for mass hysteria.

Rashid Ali, who played the guitar in a jazz quartet at pubs in London, turned 
into a phenomenon with Kabhi Kabhi Aditi as did Benny Dayal, who sang the sassy 
Pappu Can’t Dance Saala. This year reconfirmed that Rahman is a terrific 
headhunter. His formula is simple: He needs to hear magic when the singers go 
behind the mike. Exactly the way an actor transforms a scene dynamically when 
he steps into the frame. It doesn’t matter if the guy has lost a talent hunt 
(Naresh Iyer) or is a music teacher in Suriname with no claim to fame 
(Madhushree).

Rahman’s range as a vocalist expanded with each film too. If he surpassed 
himself with his tribute to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan in Guru’s Tere Bina in 2007, 
there was Khwaja Mere Khwaja from Jodhaa Akbar which made the qawwali 
accessible again.

And he kept innovating. Who would have imagined that he would direct the 
Chennai String Orchestra to magnificently pull off Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony 
Prelude in Yuvvraaj? The script allowed for lusty Western classical departures; 
sometimes film-makers such as Ghai and Mani Ratnam (I can’t wait for Raavan 
where Rahman and Ratnam reunite—it’s as thrilling as Quincy Jones and Michael 
Jackson every single time) are known to tweak their films around Rahman’s 
music. O.P.

Nayyar and Naushad commanded such respect in the 1950s and 1960s but few 
composers have thereafter.

Rahman has been accused several times of repackaging and re-recording his older 
tunes for a new audience. Even in doing so he’s managed to increase his fan 
base. Surely, few in the north would have picked up the soundtrack for 
Alaipayuthey but many must have enjoyed the soundtrack of Saathiya, the Hindi 
remake, as much or even more. Surprisingly, he hasn’t taken a single track off 
the hit Tamil OST for the Hindi version of Ghajini. Guzarish and Behka from the 
Aamir Khan-starrer are catchy melodies with Rahman teaming up again with Rang 
De Basanti collaborator Prasoon Joshi to sweep the charts.

Slumdog Millionaire was a quick, quiet release. Rahman wrapped up the project 
in an astounding two months for Danny Boyle, collaborating with M.I.A.—the 
UK-based Sri Lankan wild child. Like Rahman, M.I.A.

broke into the mainstream with her inimitable vocal style and razor rhythms. 
She spent her early years in Chennai and returned to record parts of her 
smash-hit second

Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?

2008-12-26 Thread my_arr

Same notes (tune) different key (arrangement)... Played to match 
shruti of Behka song... You would realize this more in Yuvraaj where 
Tu muskura tunes used in Man Mohini and Tu Meri Dost Hai... 

my_arr

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@... 
wrote:

 The starting humming of guzarish is the same(almost) as the second 
sax interlude in behka behka!!

[arr]Komaram Puli schedule from 3 Jan

2008-12-26 Thread fani kalyan



Komaram Puli schedule from 3 Jan
The latest schedule of Pawan Kalyan’s Komaram Puli will be starting on 3 
January and will continue till 15 February. With this schedule, the talkie part 
of the film will be complete. The songs will be shot in March and the producer 
is planning to release the film in Summer of 2009. Nikhisha is doing female 
lead. SJ Surya directs this film. Manoj Bajpai, Charan Raj, Saranya, Nassar and 
Ali play other important roles. AR Rehman provides music. Binod Pradhan handles 
cinematography.. Singanamala Ramesh Babu produces the film.

http://www.idlebrain.com/news/2000march20/news288.html

Puli is now komaram puli..and being a telugu guy i cant understand wht komaram 
means!!

Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?

2008-12-26 Thread fani kalyan

No no..noticed on da first day itself...but posted lately!! :P

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com wrote:

From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr]Has anyone noticed?
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 10:21 AM

I am surprised you guys are figuring that out now :) 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Vithur vith...@gmail. com wrote:

absolutely true. Noticed this bro Of course you found it out ...Good 
observation

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:59 AM, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ yahoo.com 
wrote:

The starting humming of guzarish is the same(almost) as the second sax 
interlude in behka behka!!

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[arr] Jai Ho Music Video - HIGH QUALITY

2008-12-26 Thread pratap

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ojJGt4UYOk

Download Link (HQ) : 
http://keepvid.com/save-video.mp4?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fget_video%3Fvideo_id%3D9ojJGt4UYOk%26t%3DOEgsToPDskIjejHYwtHAqh9pgJ8EcY1z%26fmt%3D18

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

Please treat seniors with some respect. Now its come to this huh

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:48 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


 as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies
 along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty
 bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because
 ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I
 think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you
 blind you see.

 Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was
 memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and
 challenges to channel his creative blood and energy.


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Matthew Islam matthewis...@...
 wrote:
 
  I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the
 fact
  that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people
 are
  raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The
  narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your
  senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an
 experience
  that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most
 people
  I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story.
 In
  todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but
 what
  a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before.
  Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over
 such a
  dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith.
 It
  displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your
 inner
  human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to
 ones
  in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a
 movie
  from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The
  fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know
 already,
  especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing
 is
  ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for
 the
  makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like
 this
  shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the
 brilliance
  of the work on display that is so different than the formula films
 or
  negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of
 that
  natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from
  stories that are a little more close to reality.
 
 
  My two cents.
  Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he
 composes
  for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie
 from
  a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I
 know
  he has a great instinct about films.
 
  Regards,
  Matthew Islam
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote:
 
   Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
   countries it was never before told experience/story.
  
   me too, loved kid Jamal the most!
  
   There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end
 credits,
   loved that as well :D
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzyâ„¢
 gomtesh.upadhye@
   wrote:
   
Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the
 fuss
   is about
:)
But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies
 that we
   find a
heart touching, soul stirring
movie to be silly.
   
But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds.
 Go
   watch it
for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
   Jamal. The
small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
   autograph of
AB ).

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

Can you tell me any composer who has been great in choosing scripts?

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:48 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


 as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies
 along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty
 bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because
 ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I
 think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you
 blind you see.

 Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was
 memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and
 challenges to channel his creative blood and energy.


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Matthew Islam matthewis...@...
 wrote:
 
  I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the
 fact
  that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people
 are
  raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The
  narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your
  senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an
 experience
  that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most
 people
  I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story.
 In
  todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but
 what
  a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before.
  Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over
 such a
  dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith.
 It
  displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your
 inner
  human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to
 ones
  in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a
 movie
  from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The
  fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know
 already,
  especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing
 is
  ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for
 the
  makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like
 this
  shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the
 brilliance
  of the work on display that is so different than the formula films
 or
  negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of
 that
  natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from
  stories that are a little more close to reality.
 
 
  My two cents.
  Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he
 composes
  for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie
 from
  a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I
 know
  he has a great instinct about films.
 
  Regards,
  Matthew Islam
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote:
 
   Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western
   countries it was never before told experience/story.
  
   me too, loved kid Jamal the most!
  
   There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end
 credits,
   loved that as well :D
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzyâ„¢
 gomtesh.upadhye@
   wrote:
   
Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the
 fuss
   is about
:)
But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies
 that we
   find a
heart touching, soul stirring
movie to be silly.
   
But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds.
 Go
   watch it
for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest
   Jamal. The
small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an
   autograph of
AB ).

[arr] T-Series acquires Slumdog Millionaire music rights for India

Jaane Tu, Yuvvraaj, Ghajini, Delhi 6 and now this... Hmmm...


T-Series acquires Slumdog Millionaire music rights for India 
 Story By: HETAL ADESARA updated on: 24/12/08  
 


   
MUMBAI: Indian music major T-Series has acquired the music rights of the 
surprise hit of this year - Slumdog Millionaire, directed by Danny Boyle.

T-Series chairman and managing director Bhushan Kumar confirmed the development 
to Businessofcinema.com. The movie will be released in India in January by Fox 
Star Studios. It stars Anil Kapoor, Irrfan Khan and Dev Patel.

Slumdog Millionaire has so far bagged a total of 50 awards worldwide including 
four Golden Globe nominations on including Best Picture - Drama, Best Director 
for Danny Boyle, Best Screenplay for Simon Beaufoy, and Best Original Score for 
A R Rahman. Apart from this, the movie was also honored with two awards from 
the Los Angeles Film Critics Association, one from the New York Film Critics' 
Circle, as well as six nominations for the Critics Choice Awards including Best 
Picture.

Re: [arr] Will miss you Sridhar Sir!

2008-12-26 Thread Roopa Sheshadri

Rest in Peace Sridhar Sir,

Well you have been a towering personality in the Indian  Global Music
Industry, it's sad  unfortunate about your untimely demise coming to my
notice during a premier show of Ghajini here in Australia..till then i did
not know that you had departed from earth  attained salvation..i frankly
have to kick myself for not being in touch with the media, mails or news for
the past 2 months..I'm sorry but guess Sridhar sir you  Rahman made a
deadly combination in creating innovative sounds...

Rest in Peace  May you soul attain Salvation at the holy feet of Lord
Emperuman

Regards,

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:56 AM, sushma g_s...@yahoo.com wrote:

  A loss something unparalleled... :(

 Every time I hear Hariharan breathe Uyire, I will continue to think of the
 guy who has recorded it or the water flow - Flute in 2nd BG in Athangara
 marame or estatic 2nd Bg of Taal se Taal Oh there are so many!

 One guy who has been right through the journey of AR. Recorded every single
 piece that AR has done.

 Has been an integral part of several movies of Maniratnam, Kamal Hassan
 etc... A colossal loss to the arts,entertainment industry.

 Sir, Thanks for being an inspiration to people like me!

 May your peaceful soul continue rest in peace.

Re: [arr] MY DESIGN IDEA OF ARR DB/SEARCH SITE

Nice effort. Good. Thanks

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, rakesh kumar rak_d_ku...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Its my interpretation how the ARR Search site should be. I want to keep it
 simple ala.. Google search.. . I have added only few search option as this
 is a draft.

 I know w can get full arr discography in ARR official website and
 appreciate the guys doing it.. but if will be great if we can search
 anything about arr movie by year, movie name, actor, director, language. etc
 etc..

 Your ideas are welcome..I am not good at programming, but can take care the
 visual design part.

 ARR Rules

 Rakesh

 




-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [arr]Komaram Puli schedule from 3 Jan

Komaram may be the name of some Place in AP. Is it ? some distant village in
Rayalaseema District.




2008/12/27 fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@yahoo.com


  *Komaram Puli schedule from 3 Jan*
 The latest schedule of Pawan Kalyan's Komaram Puli will be starting on 3
 January and will continue till 15 February. With this schedule, the talkie
 part of the film will be complete. The songs will be shot in March and the
 producer is planning to release the film in Summer of 2009. Nikhisha is
 doing female lead. SJ Surya directs this film. Manoj Bajpai, Charan Raj,
 Saranya, Nassar and Ali play other important roles. AR Rehman provides
 music. Binod Pradhan handles cinematography. Singanamala Ramesh Babu
 produces the film.

 http://www.idlebrain.com/news/2000march20/news288.html

 Puli is now komaram puli..and being a telugu guy i cant understand wht
 komaram means!!

 




-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] AR's voice

2008-12-26 Thread rayrai2k

Hi,
I find his voice is the most unique and while he sings it sounds like 
somebody singing in his twenty's. Also the range is quiet unique. 
Another friend on mine had once said if theres any other who matches 
that range was Micheal Jackson. 
While listening to Jiya Se Jiya  O Saaya his voice sounds very fresh 
and young. 

Could somebody add more of your thoughts

[arr] A.R.Rahman has left nothing unturned to show his genius

Finally, the much awaited and publicized Aamir Khan's 'Ghajini' has seen the
light of the day. Two days before the scheduled release on Merry Christmas,
the Madras High Court had restrained its screening. However, as the luck
would have the court's division bench stayed that restrain order and opened
the doors for its release. As expected, the movie has had a huge advance
booking and created a houseful scenario in the capital of India.
Incidentally, the movie's original Tamil version was also a major hit, and
so 'Ghajini' in Hindi has proved its credential on the opening day and has
been doing better everyday even in the wake of fierce competition from
Akshay Kumar starrer animation movie titled 'Jumbo'. Since Aamir is a
perfectionist, he has left no stone unturned to hit his usual target of
perfection. Looking at 'Ghajini', we find it very rewarding due to its very
story. Besides, director A.R. Murugadoss tells the story in a wonderful way.
And on top of all this, the movie has Aamir Khan at the helm of affairs. So,
the movie has to succeed at the box office. No surprise!

The movie runs for full three hours and that too without boring the
viewer who is now accustomed to a shorter duration. The viewer gets stuck to
his seat and forgets that there is going to come an interval too. He story
keeps you guessing about the next scene. Then there is no scope for getting
bored. Yes, the genre of the movie isn't very different though for Aamir it
is as the latter has been moving from one to another in his movies. In spite
of it being the usual Bollywood stuff, the screenplay keeps one glued to his
or her seat. The reason is simple that the same story has been told
differently with a lot of twists. Though it's a war between the good versus
evil , yet it's free from the so called violence. The good prevails over the
evil and brings solace to the audience. That's all.

click for larger view
http://ww.smashits.com/news/bollywood/movie-review/7035/a-fantastic-movie.html#The
story goes like Aamir Khan suffers an extreme memory loss following the
murder of his girlfriend Asin. But the loss of memory is short-lived. He
goes to work and slowly but steadily regains the memory .Thus, he remembers
his love interest and tries to pursue his lost path. He carries with himself
Polaroids that remind him of his past. In this movie, Aamir tattoos them on
his body, which constantly remind his mind .

click for larger view
http://ww.smashits.com/news/bollywood/movie-review/7035/a-fantastic-movie.html#After
all, one cannot go on weaving innumerable stories. However, he can certainly
change the style of narration or presentation. That provides relief to one's
eyes and captures one's attention without falling a prey to the repetition.
This is the style of 'Ghajini's original, meaning Tamil version director
A.R. Murugadoss. He starts off with what happens in the past, comes to the
present, falls back in time and thus returns to the earlier theme. Again,
the loss of memory in a movie isn't new. Many movies have shown a sort of
amnesia. But, 'Ghajini's memory loss is very different inasmuch as the hero
recalls events but for 15 minutes only. Aamir has displayed extraordinary
skill in the portrayal of a man suffering from short-term memory loss. He
doesn't speak but says everything through his eyes - body language. Every
narration is full of that's the beauty ! Thus, the movie will be remembered
for long. Every expression is strong enough to tells a lot. This saves the
movie showing undesirable fighting scenes and turning the movie into a
violent one.

click for larger view
http://ww.smashits.com/news/bollywood/movie-review/7035/a-fantastic-movie.html#Acting-wise,
Aamir is superb. We have never seen the actor performing so well. Less said
the better about his look, his hairstyle and his physique. The movie may
inspire thousands of its viewers to gym for wellness, if not for his
memorable body. His body movement is great indeed! Historically, following
the success of his Tamil movie, the director was looking for an actor to
play his bold character of Shiva. When he met with A. R. Rehman and asked
him to name a Bollywood actor for the coveted role, the latter suggested
Aamir Khan for the lead role. Aamir accepted the offer but with a rider that
he would begin its shoot after eight months.

click for larger view
http://ww.smashits.com/news/bollywood/movie-review/7035/a-fantastic-movie.html#To
do full justice to play this role, Aamir underwent fitness training under
his Guru Satya for six months - working in gym from four to six hours every
day. In fact, once he broke his knee during the shooting of a stunt and
deferred the shoot for a month! Another interesting matter is that the
director had first signed Kangna Ranaut but later replaced her with Ziah
Khan at the instance of Aamir. Kangna had reportedly leaked out to the media
that she has bagged the coveted role. The director had decided to repeat his
heroine Asin for the Hindi

[arr] A R Rahman's musical technique.

A R Rahman's Slumdog Millionaire OST

*This isn't a review. Just a few quick observations on A R Rahman's musical
technique.*

When I started watching *Slumdog Millionaire*, I was trying to guess whether
the soundtrack and background music was by A R Rahman. I didn't know because
I saw the film without reading or following too much about it. I wanted to
watch it with no preconceived notions. The opening chase song *O...Saya *had
* *a characteristic Rahman feel - expansive sound, ARR-sounding vocals and a
train beat to go with the train visual. But M.I.A's arrival on vocals threw
me off the scent.

Then I got so caught up in the film that I stopped thinking about it. A
compliment for good film technique (and background music ) is that it
doesn't draw attention to itself outside the context of the film while
you're watching. The music fits the film perfectly.

During the song-and-dance end credits though, there was a point when
Sukhvinder starts singing the chorus *Jai Ho*. He starts by himself with a
backing layer of keyboards. Sometime into the second refrain, an additional
layer of music kicks in, making for a goosebump moment.

At that point (maybe a minute before Rahman's name pops up in the credits),
I had my answer. No one quite layers sound for effect like he does. He draws
you out slowly, adding layer on layer, preparing you for a final assault and
a pitch-perfect crescendo.

Another interesting  technique that I noticed is the use of voice as sound.
While his liking for fresh playback voices is well-known, what is probably
not appreciated is how those voices add to the 'sound' and feel of a song.
An example that immediately comes to mind is the female playback singing in
*Pappu Can't Dance! *and the use of Vasundhara Das for barely two lines* *in
*Kahin To*.* The use of Mahalaxmi Iyer( or is it Tanvi Shah?) on vocals in *Jai
Ho* does that perfectly. Complimenting Sukhvinder's earthy voice and the
Spanish-sounding chorus, that voice breaks through and registers on a
different level. I'd have expected Alka Yagnik or someone similar to sing
that exuberant love song but he surprises us, defying our musical
expectations to come through with something bordering on the sublime.

**Vishal-Shekhar's use of Preeti and Pinky in Bluffmaster for Say Na Say Na
qualifies too*
*http://ajayvb.blogspot.com/2008/12/r-rahman-slumdog-millionaire-ost.html*

-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

You are listening to songs of a guy who promotes people who break copyright
laws. You are not
only encouraging him but also an accomplice. Partner in crime! Now how about
your ethics?

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:25 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware
 that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.

 Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly and
 intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists -
 international or domestic.

 well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of
 terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just gave
 them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they
 do. Do you think it is acceptable?

 A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but I am
 not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no
 wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is
 giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you see,
 morals are subjective. oh yeah right!

 technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but...

 laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment.
 laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced.

 Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not blind
 our own judgement.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@...
 wrote:

 
  Now lets use your logic for something better.
 
  ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt
 wanna name
  the MDs who use the studio.
  Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy
 or rip off
  some guys music? (they are btw)
 
  Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner
 possible and
  holding that against him.
 
  On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian
 siva gopala
  acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
  sriramiye...@... wrote:
 
   What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original,
 the
   basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the
 H'wood
   flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
   arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%
 40yahoogroups.com,

   pradeepananth
   pradeepananth@ wrote:
   
So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box
 office
records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to
 rake
in a lot of moolah.
   
As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the
 producers
   of
Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini
 didn't
quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-
 profile
nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss 
 co.
   
In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
acquire the rights first from the original
 writer/director/producers
before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
   audience
to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
   appeal
to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they
 are
doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty
 sure
that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
intellectual property laws)
   
   
Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off
 the
story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder
 if
   he
ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want
 to be
associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights
 of
another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR
 doesn't
appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources
 and
not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
   
Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
   issue,
that would be awesome.
   
Thoughts?
-pradeep

[arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread rayrai2k

Wah what a comparison? AM studio to Terrorism. One believes 
completely is peace loving and filled with love towards humanity, 
tries to unite humans. The other exactly believes in the opposite. 
Your thought itself speaks out you didn't do it right. 
Also ethics of killing is different than the art. So is the law. 
If I have to speak in your words get this fact Kalashnikov invented 
the gun for protecting his motherland from the hands of enemies. Will 
his ethics be questioned if its used for killing innocent? 
Scientists strive hard to develop theories  science should they be 
executed if their work is used for mass destruction? 


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@... 
wrote:

 
 Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware 
 that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.
 
 Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly 
and 
 intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists - 
 international or domestic.
 
 well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of 
 terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just 
gave 
 them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they 
 do. Do you think it is acceptable?
 
 A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but I 
am 
 not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no 
 wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is 
 giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you 
see, 
 morals are subjective. oh yeah right! 
 
 technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but...
 
 laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment.
 laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced.
 
 
 Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not 
blind 
 our own judgement.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ 
 wrote:
 
  Now lets use your logic for something better.
  
  ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt 
 wanna name
  the MDs who use the studio.
  Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy 
 or rip off
  some guys music? (they are btw)
  
  Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner 
 possible and
  holding that against him.
  
  On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian 
 siva gopala
  acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
  sriramiyer15@ wrote:
  
 What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely 
original, 
 the
   basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the 
 H'wood
   flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   pradeepananth
   pradeepananth@ wrote:
   
So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box 
 office
records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going 
to 
 rake
in a lot of moolah.
   
As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay 
Christopher
Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the 
 producers
   of
Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini 
 didn't
quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-
 profile
nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss 
 
 co.
   
In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go 
and
acquire the rights first from the original 
 writer/director/producers
before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping 
off
others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
   audience
to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do 
they
   appeal
to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they 
 are
doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty 
 sure
that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
intellectual property laws)
   
   
Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off 
 the
story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I 
wonder 
 if
   he
ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want 
 to be
associated with a movie where the intellectual property 
rights 
 of
another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR 
 doesn't
appreciate people downloading his music through illegal 
sources 
 and
not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
   
Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
   issue,
that would be awesome.
   
Thoughts?
-pradeep

Re: [arr] [RM] I try to imbibe Rahman Sir's simplicity - Dance Master KALA

2008-12-26 Thread Aravind AM

   //   Similarly, for Kalaignar Karunanidhi's Function, there was a dance
programme, where Rahman Sir was standing in a corner and singing. I
felt that it was like a shooting experience to me. Almost many songs of
his, I used to feel that I could have done the same.   //


I was there at the venue, watching it live! what a moment it was
A group of girls was dancing for Vande Mataram song...  ARR was in the 
audience
Just after the second charanam,  ARR suddenly went up the stage, took the mic 
and started singing along Thaai Manne Vanakkam

It was such a sweet surprise!! :)

After the song got over, the anchor asked ARR to sing... but ARR refused saying 
something like  neenga kekkaama naaney vandhu paditten... podhumey  (I came 
and performed without being requested!! Isnt this enough?  He smiled and 
walked off, to a thunderous applause!! :)

I still remember it as though it were only yesterday!!
unforgettable!!! :D

Cheers,
Aravind



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--- On Fri, 26/12/08, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com
Subject: [arr] [RM]  I try to imbibe Rahman Sir's simplicity - Dance Master 
KALA
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 10:34 PM











Dance Master Kala in Rahmania - Part II 
 
I have always found it comfortable to work with Director Balachander Sir, who 
is my Guru. He is my favourite and I am very comfortable working with him. He 
encourages women a lot and help them grow in their career. I havent received 
any scoldings from him till date, and on the other hand he has pointed at me 
thereby praising him and idolising at me. 

 
I have worked with Suhasini Maniratnam in Indra. Acham Acham Illai song was 
done by me. Its a very beautfiful song, and can never be forgotten in life. The 
speciality with Rahman Sir is that he gives us something which we would not 
have thought of. There is no greatness in giving a song which everyone would 
have thought of. Many Music Directors compose music,and we can predict that 
they would follow a particular style, but with Rahman Sir, it would be entirely 
different between what we think and what he does. His songs become more and 
more likeable as we keep hearing them again  and again. When I met Suhasini 
Maam in her office, I listened to the song there and started liking it at the 
first instance, as I also do have lot of patriotic feelings in me. The shooting 
of this song was done at a place far off from Tambaram, with a group of 
students whom I organised with. Each and every word of that song was enjoyable 
and gave a different experience and
 happiness. We would have given formations similar to butterfly and also 
similar to India Map. 

 
Ratchagan - Soniya Soniya 
 
In that film, all choreographers took more than 12 days for finishing the song. 
There were some Union problems during that time, and hence they decided to 
shoot the film in Hyderabad. They told me that they would give me just 5 days 
for getting the song done. I was very upset and it was Nagarjuna Sir, who gave 
me comfort by saying that he had faith in me and we would do it very well. 
Rahman Sir didnt give us the full song, but gave us an outline of the track. He 
gave a lot of beauty to our movements through that song. In the BGMs also, he 
had just given an outline without the violins etc. I observe all his violin 
works with proper care, before I compose my dance sequences. I can never forget 
the way the song came out and also the dance sequence. 

 
Vande Mataram 
 
It was an opportunity which literally came to me, but went off from me, for 
which I really feel bad. It was Mr. Bala from Bombay who did the shooting of 
the song. They came to Chennai and discussed everything with me and left to 
Mumbai. I think the main problem was that they felt that the song would have 
suited well if it would have been done by Mumbai Choreographers. Then Mrs. Bala 
called on me ( I have done a lot of ads for them before ) and said that they 
wanted some North Indian Choreographers who would be doing it to suit it 
better. Its the only song which I always think I have missed doing choregraphy. 
You take any songs till date, but a song like Vande Mataram can never be done. 

 
Similarly, for Kalaignar Karunanidhi's Function, there was a dance programme, 
where Rahman Sir was standing in a corner and singing. I felt that it was like 
a shooting experience to me. Almost many songs of his, I used to feel that I 
could have done the same. 

 
Even in Telugu movies, I have done some movies of His. 
 
Many Actors  Actresses used to be scary of Rahman Sir's songs, with the belief 
that it would be really tough to dance to his tunes. Even big and senior 
choreographers have opined that its very tough to understand the beats in his 
songs. But, I always like his songs and always select his songs when I do stage 
performance. I have done

Re: [arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread Pradeepan R

This is completely ridiculous.If I tell you that the Rice that you eat, is
coming from a piece of land, owned by a farmer who beats up his Wife
would you stop eating ??
Would you be willing to make an effort to find out ??!!!
we all know for a fact that we pollute the earth by driving...isn't that
unethical towards our future generation ?

:)) lets not bring ARR into unnecessary stuff.


On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:55 PM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware
 that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.

 Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly and
 intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists -
 international or domestic.

 well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of
 terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just gave
 them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they
 do. Do you think it is acceptable?

 A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but I am
 not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no
 wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is
 giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you see,
 morals are subjective. oh yeah right!

 technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but...

 laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment.
 laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced.

 Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not blind
 our own judgement.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@...
 wrote:

 
  Now lets use your logic for something better.
 
  ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt
 wanna name
  the MDs who use the studio.
  Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy
 or rip off
  some guys music? (they are btw)
 
  Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner
 possible and
  holding that against him.
 
  On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian
 siva gopala
  acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
  sriramiye...@... wrote:
 
   What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original,
 the
   basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the
 H'wood
   flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
   arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%
 40yahoogroups.com,

   pradeepananth
   pradeepananth@ wrote:
   
So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box
 office
records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to
 rake
in a lot of moolah.
   
As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the
 producers
   of
Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini
 didn't
quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-
 profile
nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss 
 co.
   
In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
acquire the rights first from the original
 writer/director/producers
before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
   audience
to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
   appeal
to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they
 are
doing is by no means legal? (I am no lawyer but I am pretty
 sure
that Ghajini will be deemed a case of plagiarism under most
intellectual property laws)
   
   
Question to ARR is even though he is not directly ripping off
 the
story, he is certainly 'associated' with the movie and I wonder
 if
   he
ought to have put a foot down and said that he would not want
 to be
associated with a movie where the intellectual property rights
 of
another creative artist are being violated. After all ARR
 doesn't
appreciate people downloading his music through illegal sources
 and
not paying for it. He knows how much its hurts an artiste.
   
Folks with access to ARR - if you could get his stance on this
   issue,
that would be awesome.
   
Thoughts?
-pradeep
   
  
  
  
 

  




-- 
Cheers,
Pradeepan.

All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
!

[arr] Great AR Rehman stuff

Just to get off a few things off my chest. I'm no movie critic either.

Nevertheless, I thought Slumdog was an OK movie. Technically good, great AR
Rehman stuff, but lacks that 'Wow! what a movie' at the end.
Compare this movie (if one can) to movies like Gandhi, The Godfather,
Cleopatra, even City of Joy - slumdog can't hold a candle to any of those
movies.

It is also important, as sophisticated Assamnetters, that conclusions like
'weak Indians', or whatever, are not drawn just because some like the movie
or others dislike the movie. IMHO - an argument on such basis is not just
extraneous, but is also trying desparately to find reasons why anyone could
not heap praises on the movie because every other Western reviewer and his
uncle is going gaga over the movie.

City of Joy (COJ, 1992) - don't know if it won any accolades was a great
movie, and it also had all the stuff that 'the not so weakminded Indians'
might love - poverty, crime, and struggle, the REAL INDIA. Was Slumdog
better than COJ - I really don't think so.

It just boggles the mind, why an individual can not just like or dislike a
movie on what they see as merits or demirits of the movie without their
character being questioned.



Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.


In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and
humble like a blade of grass.

http://assamnet.org/posts/index.php?t=rviewgoto=6232th=3122#msg_6232
-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread pradeepananth

To clarify, I am not ethics police here and not accusing ARR of
anything. Just trying to get a sense for what his (and everyone's)
perspective on this is.

I think Vivek put it really beautifully in terms of distinguishing
between laws and morals. This is really about what moral standards
does ARR subscribe to and whether there is an opportunity here for him
to hold himself and the rest of the industry to higher standards.

Other things to consider:

Whether Ghajini and Memento or similar or not is to be decided based
on international law and I have a strong feeling that intellectual
property experts will certainly rule this as a case of plagiarism.

As for the related question around what happens if ARR rents his
studio out to MDs who plagiarize, its probably a good idea that ARR
writes in contracts with those MDs that indemnify him in case they are
sued over copyright infringement laws.

As for the rice/farmer issue, the people who refuse to drink Starbucks
coffee or wear Nike shoes because of alleged violation of fair trade
laws or labor laws will certainly not want to consume the rice from
the farmer who beats up his wife. They will want to get it from more
'ethically appropriate' sources.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pradeepan R
pradeepanisonl...@... wrote:

 This is completely ridiculous.If I tell you that the Rice that you
eat, is
 coming from a piece of land, owned by a farmer who beats up his Wife
 would you stop eating ??
 Would you be willing to make an effort to find out ??!!!
 we all know for a fact that we pollute the earth by driving...isn't that
 unethical towards our future generation ?
 
 :)) lets not bring ARR into unnecessary stuff.
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:55 PM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@... wrote:
 
 
  Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was aware
  that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.
 
  Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are blatantly and
  intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other artists -
  international or domestic.
 
  well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of
  terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just gave
  them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what they
  do. Do you think it is acceptable?
 
  A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but I am
  not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did no
  wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is
  giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. you see,
  morals are subjective. oh yeah right!
 
  technically speaking, ARR might not have broken any law. but...
 
  laws exist for enforcement. morals exist for enlightenment.
  laws have to be obeyed. morals have to be practiced.
 
  Just because we love ARR, the man and his music, it should not blind
  our own judgement.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@
  wrote:
 
  
   Now lets use your logic for something better.
  
   ARR's studio is given out on rent basis to various MDs. I wouldnt
  wanna name
   the MDs who use the studio.
   Now are we going to sue or question ARRs ethics if these MDs copy
  or rip off
   some guys music? (they are btw)
  
   Please stop catching anything related to ARR in every manner
  possible and
   holding that against him.
  
   On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ramakrisha laxmana subramanian
  siva gopala
   acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni . 
   sriramiyer15@ wrote:
  
What has AR got to do with it? His work is completely original,
  the
basic story of GHAJINI is SURE to have been inspired from the
  H'wood
flick, but the 'masala' is completely by the writer/director.
   
   
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%
  40yahoogroups.com,
 
pradeepananth
pradeepananth@ wrote:

 So Ghajini is out and looks like its all set to break all box
  office
 records. Aamir, the producers and everyone involved is going to
  rake
 in a lot of moolah.

 As far as I know, Murugadoss  Co. did not quite pay Christopher
 Nolan, his brother Jonathan Nolan(original story) or the
  producers
of
 Memento for the rights of the movie. Maybe the tamil ghajini
  didn't
 quite hit their radar but the Hindi one because of its high-
  profile
 nature will probably do and they might come after Murugadoss 
  co.

 In any case, I am disgusted that these guys didn't quite go and
 acquire the rights first from the original
  writer/director/producers
 before ripping it off. If they don't have any qualms ripping off
 others' intellectual property, why should they expect their
audience
 to not go for pirated DVDs and VCDs of their movie? Why do they
appeal
 to them to not watch through 'illegal sources' when what they
  are
 doing is

Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.

2008-12-26 Thread V S Rawat

On 12/27/2008 9:33 AM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote:

 Can you tell me any composer who has been great in choosing scripts?
 

But, what is the drawback in ARR choosing SDM?

When I had first heard that ARR has done something called SDM, I thought 
it would be another of those Deepa Mehta type of movies that ARR did 
because he doesn't know how to say no, but, see what all publicity, what 
all nomination, what all international focus SDM has got to ARR and to 
India.

So, now I feel that ARR was absolutely correct in doing SDM. No other 
movie has got this much publicity out of India.

-- 
Rawat



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[arr] Why no much talk abt Ghajini BGM

2008-12-26 Thread fani kalyan

also ..I personally feel that the BGM is not so impressive..The AR touch and 
thump is missing..maybe coz I expected too much or the sound system where I 
watched is bad or like for the songs..the BGM also takes time to grow on?!!!

Re: [arr] AR's voice

The metallic nature of his voice is his special highlight and strength. Its
the same as of now, as it was when he first sang  yelelo in the interlude
of Chinna Chinna aasai

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:31 AM, rayrai2k ravis...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,
 I find his voice is the most unique and while he sings it sounds like
 somebody singing in his twenty's. Also the range is quiet unique.
 Another friend on mine had once said if theres any other who matches
 that range was Micheal Jackson.
 While listening to Jiya Se Jiya  O Saaya his voice sounds very fresh
 and young.

 Could somebody add more of your thoughts

 




-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] SDM-MY take

2008-12-26 Thread thanveer99

Fellow ARR-Fans,
 Got to watch SDM in bay area(california) and what a 
crowdI am speechless with this movie.danny boyle /ARR combo has 
done the magic.Loved the screenplay/editing and the sounds of the 
movie.With 95% of crowd being locals and them appriciating the movie 
until the end credits and giving a big clap at the end gave me goose 
bumps...

My salute to ARR/Danny boyle for believing in a quality theme among 
commercial formulas

I am definitely seeing the crowds are getting it

Wishing my good luck for ARR for the Golden Globe and much more further

[arr] Re: Question on Ethics to ARR...

2008-12-26 Thread rayrai2k

Give me a chance of writing about ethics.

Once a person went to a shop to purchased for Rs.50 and then paid him 
Rs 100. The shopkeeper returned 70 by mistake as a remainder. The 
person left the shop. It was late by when the shopkeeper realized his 
mistake. 
After a couple of days the same person went to the same shop and 
again purchased stuff worth Rs 50. Again he paid 100. This time the 
shopkeep recognized the person and returned Rs 30. 
Seeing the less amount the person questions the shopkeeper why is he 
returning Rs 20 less and it wasn't ethical. For which the shopkeeper 
reminded him of the incident couple of days back where he took Rs 20 
more and where was his ethics then. 
The person was too quick to respond saying his ethics had allowed him 
to forgive the mistake of the shopkeeper once. But not twice of 
repeating the same mistake. 

Now you decide who is more ethical and I am sure its very much 
debatable. And both are right. 

So When AR is renting his studio and if he makes the MD sign an 
agreement not to use other person's work.. it nay be good ideally but 
whats wrong if somebody says he was inspired of another work. We too 
try to imitate and follow other. 
Memento might have also used some other story based upon Short term 
memory loss and vengeance. 
Think about Titanic itself or even the Da Vinci code.. In the former 
it was the ship sinking story told in its own masala and the later 
uses the search for Holy Grail in its own way. Da Vinci code story 
was claimed as a plagarism of holy Blood Holy Grail. But the laws 
gave a clean chit. Now does it mean Laws are without ethics? If yes, 
then why are we made to follow? Known it has flaws but these flaws 
sometimes create much better work. It gives an opportunity for 
individual to sometimes use and then recreate by adding 
contributions. 
If every plagiarism was to be stopped then the first and the foremost 
thing that should be stopped is the university exams we make use of 
the content in a book, read, memorize and then write it as answers in 
the exam. Isn't it plagiarism? Was the answers any time our/your own? 
I studies in the university which has patterns of open book exams. 
Its the biggest plagiarism. How about ethics here? 


  
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pradeepananth 
pradeepana...@... wrote:

 To clarify, I am not ethics police here and not accusing ARR of
 anything. Just trying to get a sense for what his (and everyone's)
 perspective on this is.
 
 I think Vivek put it really beautifully in terms of distinguishing
 between laws and morals. This is really about what moral standards
 does ARR subscribe to and whether there is an opportunity here for 
him
 to hold himself and the rest of the industry to higher standards.
 
 Other things to consider:
 
 Whether Ghajini and Memento or similar or not is to be decided based
 on international law and I have a strong feeling that intellectual
 property experts will certainly rule this as a case of plagiarism.
 
 As for the related question around what happens if ARR rents his
 studio out to MDs who plagiarize, its probably a good idea that ARR
 writes in contracts with those MDs that indemnify him in case they 
are
 sued over copyright infringement laws.
 
 As for the rice/farmer issue, the people who refuse to drink 
Starbucks
 coffee or wear Nike shoes because of alleged violation of fair trade
 laws or labor laws will certainly not want to consume the rice from
 the farmer who beats up his wife. They will want to get it from more
 'ethically appropriate' sources.
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pradeepan R
 pradeepanisonline@ wrote:
 
  This is completely ridiculous.If I tell you that the Rice that you
 eat, is
  coming from a piece of land, owned by a farmer who beats up his 
Wife
  would you stop eating ??
  Would you be willing to make an effort to find out ??!!!
  we all know for a fact that we pollute the earth by 
driving...isn't that
  unethical towards our future generation ?
  
  :)) lets not bring ARR into unnecessary stuff.
  
  
  On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:55 PM, vivek iiivivekobero@ wrote:
  
  
   Yes, ARR should not have involved with the project if he was 
aware
   that prior permission was not taken for remaking the movie.
  
   Yes, ARR should not rent out his studio to MDs who are 
blatantly and
   intentionally guilty of infringing on copyrights of other 
artists -
   international or domestic.
  
   well gomzy, going by your logic, pakistan can house thousands of
   terrorist camps and get away with it by just saying oh we just 
gave
   them a place to live and work. We are not responsible for what 
they
   do. Do you think it is acceptable?
  
   A guy distributing ghajini mp3s would say I am just giving but 
I am
   not asking anyone to take it. So, I am morally upright and did 
no
   wrong. The other guy would say, I am just taking because he is
   giving otherwise I would have bought the CD. So, I am pure.. 
you see,

[arr] Critics award tally: 'Slumdog' reigns