[arr] Succesful Second Time - Blue

[Vithur]

Just watched Blue the second time yesterday. Two Days, Two Times. I
liked the movie. The Screen Play and the Selection of Characters and the
Dialogues are the negative aspects. Else, the movie was good. The Camera
Work was excellent

BGMs are good easily, we can get some 10 files out of it.. esp the
Humming part and the Bike Chase Sequence

Jai Ho ARR.. Good movie.

-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [arr] Re: Food Distribution - October 18, 2009

[Vithur]

That would be superb Rakesh... All the best. God Bless... Lets rock.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Santosh  wrote:

>
>
> Great bro.. I feel very bad I was not there for FD but God blessing always
> with u and all RahmanFans , I feel great that I am part of ur FD Ur Loving
> Bro..Santoshkumar
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> Vithur  wrote:
> >
> > Today, we had a great session together. The number was little big. We had
> > some 15 people joining us .
> >
> > Some new names for FD, but old names in YG like Aravind AM, Nazeef joined
> us
> > for the FD. Its a great occasion every week end, and God Has been Kind.
> >
> > Lets Join hands and do our best .
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Vithur  wrote:
> >
> > > Lets continue the good work. Good work is God's Work.
> > >
> > > Venue :- Near AM Studios
> > >
> > > Timing :- 11 30 A M
> > >
> > > --
> > > regards,
> > > Vithur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Vithur
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] Re: Brilliant analysis of Hai Rama

[raj]

Wow..gr8 share..

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "satish_srini"  wrote:
>
> Happened to come across this interesting video on youtube:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MSd1pidUk
>

Re: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[Mohamed Amin]

If ARR is weak, then how he managed to avoid Ashutosh's project and select 
Slumdog millionaire which fetched him golden globe and oscars? I think we shall 
leave the project selection to ARR and we just and listen his work rather than 
dictating which projects to choose.

tks with regards,
Amin





From: raj 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 12:03:51 PM
Subject: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

  

Godfather was a big commercial success mate..

But songs didnt get enough publicity..

I believe it was nt given to Sun tv or whateve and they were not played..

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, mohammed sajin  wrote:
>
> 
> Blue the last disaster in Boss's account!
> 
> It is very much painful to see all these superior works gone ruin.
> How many time this happens!!!
> 
> Except with some established directors(or Ameer Khan), AR movies could not 
> manage success in both quality-wise and in box-office.
> 
> Certainly there is lot of new talented directors in both Hindi and Tamil.
> Unfortunately ARR would not opt them, or viceversa.
> 
> 
> We don't want anymore movies like BLUE, Yuvvraaj, Sakkarakatti, ATM,Kangalal 
> Kaidhu Sei, E20 U18, Godfather, Parasuraam, Anbe aaruyire, SOK, etc etc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _ _ __
>





  

Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[Gayathri Chandrakasan]

I'm sorry but try as I might,  I really can't understand the reasoning behind 
your animosity towards Chiggy Wiggy, Rawat. 

Yes, it's not a worldclass masterpiece...but then, who said it ever was? Like 
Ichord mentioned, it's a fun song. Some like it, many don't. 

Quote:  "We can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this 
group to get authentic feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those 
got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire 
bullu."


I really don't see how people can be misguided by a group's review on an album. 
To start with, this is ARR's fan group. If anything, there is bound to be more 
positive reviews as compared to negative ones on ARR's albums from the members. 
If someone wanted an unbiased/objective review of ARR's album, well, there are 
many websites offering such reviews. The fan group is definitely the last place 
such person would go to. So I really don't see how your point of "misguiding 
the public with endless advertising of Chiggy Wiggy and entire blue" holds 
water here. And please don't akin the reviews to Gopal A's "lovely pranks". No 
one can tell a person to write good or bad reviews on an album. An bear in mind 
that while reviews are basically a person's feelings on a particular album, 
fake track list are not. Why bother looking outside the group, even I thought 
Gopal's list was genuine. But yes, when I got to know that it was made for fun, 
I did apologize to Gopal
 for thinking otherwise. But the fact remains that many were truly "misguided" 
by such list.

Quote: "The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man 
because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced 
ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has 
while ignoring some down points it is having."

 Liking a song is entirely an individual's decision. For every album that ARR 
works on, 1 in 10 people might loathe it (his fans included). Those who like it 
will definitely talk great about it and those who don't...well, your constant 
harping on CW is the answer to that.

On the other hand, I never came across reviews of members classifying CW as a 
masterpiece. At most, people only regard CW as a  fun number and that it's 
going to be a big hit (which it has, actually). 

But then, no one has ever forced others (at least I don't see it here) to like 
CW, or any songs for the matter. People talk constantly about their likings on 
a particular song. I don't see what's the problem with that. After all, this is 
where an ARR's fan can put across their views. You're welcomed to tell why you 
don't like CW. No one is going to bother about that too. But the fact that you 
kept harping on why people are talking great about it is something to ponder 
about. I mean, you might not share the same feelings as us, but then it doesn't 
give you the right to tell us what to like and what not to. 

ARR has from time to time composed fun and frolic numbers such as CW. Numbers 
from the 90's like Chikku Bukku, Muqabla, and post 2000- Chori Pe Chori from 
Saathiya, Pappu Can't Dance, or Taxi Taxi are anything but masterpieces. But 
they are fun and people enjoy listening to them, even to date. No one 
complained about these numbers back then, so why should CW be treated 
differently now? Because it was post SDM and expectations are higher now? Or is 
it because Kylie was singing it? Kylie knew what she was getting into when she 
sang the number. If anything, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a Grammy award from 
this number. She never said that this was the best song or that the song was 
going to change the entire music industry and neither did ARR. 



Quote: Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that 
didn't alter anything about Himesh.
 
Why bring Himesh into this picture? There are people who think the world of 
Himesh's music, I'm sure. I don't see the reason to argue with them. But no one 
has ever compared Himesh's albums to ARR's. They are poles apart. And just 
because of one CW, you start comparing ARR to Himesh? Coming to think of it, do 
you seriously think that by composing CW, those who had great views on ARR are 
going to treat him differently now?

I can understand when ARR's critics find CW as a punching bag to prove their 
point. It's a known fact that the critics would bad-mouth the least creative 
number in the album. What's more, it's expected from them. Nevertheless, I 
seriously can't find reasons why a person who claims to be ARR's fan would 
resort to such actions too.

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, V S Rawat  wrote:

From: V S Rawat 
Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull!
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:38 AM






 





  On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote:



> People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they

> want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want.  Fine.  I still 

[arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[raj]

Godfather was a big commercial success mate..

But songs didnt get enough publicity..

I believe it was nt given to Sun tv or whateve and they were not played..


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin  wrote:
>
> 
> Blue the last disaster in Boss's account!
> 
> It is very much painful to see all these superior works gone ruin.
> How many time this happens!!!
> 
> Except with some established directors(or Ameer Khan), AR movies could not 
> manage success in both quality-wise and in box-office.
> 
> Certainly there is lot of new talented directors in both Hindi and Tamil.
> Unfortunately ARR would not opt them, or viceversa.
> 
> 
>  We don't want anymore movies like BLUE, Yuvvraaj, Sakkarakatti, ATM,Kangalal 
> Kaidhu Sei, E20 U18, Godfather, Parasuraam, Anbe aaruyire, SOK, etc etc
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>

[arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[curt cobain]

be it bollywood or kollywood, rahman composes only for 
a) big budget movies
b) friends
c) big production houses/directors

most of the good movies that happen in bollywood and watever decent attempts 
happening in tamil are "low" budget movies and are done by guys totally alien 
to rahman..lets face the truth, until some of big production houses or 
rahman;s friends make good movies like Jaane tu ya Jaane na, we would never see 
good movies from rahman's music...we have to see Blue like crap, banal 
movies eating up rahman's panaromic scores.it hurts to know that people 
like Ameer(tamil director), Imtiaz ali, anurag kashyap are waiting to work with 
rahman and he keeps working in Blue, sakkarakatti.

let me tell you - current hollywood is also not very promising.we would see 
crappy projects there too..we can just pray that his music gets noticed by 
tarantino, spielberg likes and offer him a good package.


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RE: [arr] Such Bull!

[wiredbeats .]

Well said Purevibz!. And also lets not forget critical bias. We in this group 
inherently like rahmans music. So we want to like his compositions and we work 
our way through it. Rather than getting a pure outside-in view, which no fan 
base gives. 
Frankly, i think BLUE turned out poor in many ways, even the audio was loud 
(not bad, just loud). Don;t know what happened.  

To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: purev...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:07:04 +
Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull!















 





  "I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility 
of this group"



I diagree with this 100%.  Differing opinions don't discredit a group, but 
merely enhance it.



"then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this 
group to get authentic feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those 
got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire 
bullu."



There is nothing wrong in expressing praise and enthusiasm for a song that one 
likes, even if many others don't like it. People have different opinions and 
that is that.  Nobody is forcing anyone to like or dislike the song. 



"The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves 
that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring 
some down points it is having."



Yes, good point.  We must try not to be blind fans and critical analysis is 
always good up to a point.  However, if someone expresses like a for a song 
that many dislike, let it be.  Why challenge someone's opinion? I have learned 
this lesson too.  If you like Chiggy Wiggy, then you like it.  Whether a song 
has up points or down points is up to you.  THat's the nature of music.  One 
man's noise may be another man's symphony.  



"I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in 
giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, 
wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ 
album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved 
praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice 
it."



We are hear to express our thoughts and feelings about ARR's music.  What is 
true to some may not be true to others.  If one likes a song that you don't 
like, it doesn't make him or her bad, wrong, or giving ARR bad feedback.  When 
it comes down to the quality of a song, there is no "truth", but only taste, 
preference, and opinion.  Yes, there can be a large consensus about how a song 
is liked or disliked, but ultimately, we all have different perceptions and we 
should leave it at that.  Now, when it comes to things like sound quality and 
technical matters, then yes, there is such a thing as objectivity here and ARR 
should receive feedback on those points.  



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:

>

> On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:

> 

> > exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is 
> > a huge failure of ARR. 

> > and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't 
> > remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. 

> > 

> > -

> > Jahanzeb

> 

> Yup. 

> 

> I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group 
> itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the 
> song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since 
> day one. Some are like going that way.

> 

> Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal 
> matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called 
> objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get 
> authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely 
> prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from 
> the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic 
> feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this 
> group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. 

> 

> The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
> love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced 
> ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has 
> while ignoring some down points it is having.

> 

> I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in 
> giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.

> 

> Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture 
> about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs 
> truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, 
> but also practice it.

> 

> > -

RE: [arr] Re: Correction fans HISTORIC OPENING IN BOLLYWOOD 16 CRORES FIRST DAY

[wiredbeats .]

I think, bumper openings like these are the normals because producers and 
distributer prefer carpet bombing so that many actually end up getting tickets. 
I was checkin the tickets for adhavan (tamil) and there are over 50 shows a day 
in chennai. Mayajaal alone runs over 25 i think. This is to make maximum people 
watch the movie legally and in big screen and perhaps before the reviewers 
trash it.
But the occupancy will drop to below 60% from monday onwards and that 
determines the financial fate. 
The guys in BLUE will get theit cost out by the running of this week, plus DVD 
rights and DTH on demand rights. Commercially even rahman has nothing to 
fear.Its anothony desouza who will be in a soup!
regards
wb

To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: vishalredd...@yahoo.in
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:36:38 +
Subject: [arr] Re: Correction fans HISTORIC OPENING IN BOLLYWOOD 16 CRORES 
FIRST DAY















 





  Whoa Whoa Whoa, dude it is 6.5 crores not 16.5!!

Even Ghajini(Hindi, of course) got 9.25 crores on its first day!!

Get your facts right!!



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krish mridula  wrote:

>

> 

> dUDES ... ITS GOT THE BEST OPENING EVER ON FIRST DAY 16.5 CRORES

> --- On Sun, 18/10/09, dasara bullodu  wrote:

> 

> 

> From: dasara bullodu 

> Subject: Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop

> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 6:11 PM

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

> 

> couldn't agree more.. the "inavertently hilarious climax" did evoke 
> spontaneous and unexpected boisterous laughters over here as well.. the poor 
> audience were like totally caught off-guard.. and actually rolled over the 
> edge of their seats onto the floor laughing..  an authentic jaspal-bhatti 
> thriller!

> 

> strangely, even the last week's couples retreat wihch was shot on a 
> "screensaver" island like blue's bahamas and sharks was a total dud which 
> just capitalized on a dry weekend with no other promising release. peter 
> billingsley would do well taking some lessons on making a comedy from anthony 
> d'souza

>  

> ARR did a splendid job like a true professional and delivered a winner in a 
> genre that he didnot touch upon before.. there are some good punjabi hip-hop 
> and rock pieces in the BGM.. hope someone can get them out here. and I 
> honestly think that the chiggy-wiggy fiasco with kylie is most likely due to 
> the director's interference

> 

> and remember, during the audio release itself, ARR gave a hint saying not to 
> expect too much.

>  

>  

>  

> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Vishal  wrote:

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

> We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! Somebody had said that 
> the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then you should know that 
> the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release hype!! Also, the 
> flops 'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first day, though it 
> flopped!!

> Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was 
> the first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis 
> can't save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
> Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
> 20 second cameo that she cannot act!!

> The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have 
> been spent are the only ones worth watching!!

> The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!

> Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!

> Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!

> But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!

> Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
> where you should be glued to the screen!!

> All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
> without a trace!!

> All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is 
> absolutely pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should 
> be appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..

> Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
> me!

> Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
> Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The 
> Robot" starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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Re: [arr] Fake track list on Google search results!

[Pradeepan R]

I agree completely...
Why do ppl want to "entertain" & make "fun" in a Group created for talking
about ARR's music (opinions + facts).
At the very Least, please put in the subject as "Fake track list".
My first reaction on seeing that email was "vow...here is some info".
then as I read the mail , I realise its a piece of junk aimed at grabbing
attention first and fun later.
Is this a Tabloid ? NO.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Aravind AM  wrote:

>
>
> @Rawat:
> Your point that the credibility of the group is at stake, is absolutely
> valid.
>
> @ Group:
> I think this logic should be extended to the "fake track lists" as well.
>
> We should all understand that the group's posts show up on google search
> results...
> Just Google for Raavan Tracklist, and you'll see that the first 4 results
> take you to the fake track list by Gopal Anandan, posted in this group!
>
> People like us, who are regular in the group know and understand. But
> imagine any other movie buff doing a search and landing up on this fake
> track list... It would lead to rumours being spread, with the source of the
> rumour being our group! Do we want this to happen?
>
> I appreciate one odd fun post, but not at the sake of the group's
> credibility. We've been getting exclusive updates and news about ARR in this
> group, but such posts reduce the credibility. I really enjoyed the post, but
> as already been pointed out, not everyone got the joke. So, I request Gopal
> Anandan to mention in his post if it's a fun post.
>
>
> Aravind
>
> --
>
> Rahmania show interviews: http://rahmania.4shared.com
> --
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 18/10/09, V S Rawat * wrote:
>
>
> From: V S Rawat 
> Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull!
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 11:16 AM
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:
>
> > exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy
> is a huge failure of ARR.
> > and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't
> remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either.
> >
> > -
> > Jahanzeb
>
> Yup.
>
> I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group
> itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the
> song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since
> day one. Some are like going that way.
>
> Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal
> matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called
> objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get
> authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely
> prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from
> the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic
> feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this
> group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu.
>
> The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because
> we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced
> ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has
> while ignoring some down points it is having.
>
> I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in
> giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.
>
> Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture
> about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs
> truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev
> Jayate, but also practice it.
>
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. 
> > com,
> kishore parayath  wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR
> track
> >> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap!
>
> Yup, it makes me sad.
>
> >> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was
> >> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood
> and
> >> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!
>
> Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so
> uncharacteristicall y unimaginative in this particular song. To put things
> in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by
> ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might
> wish to share "the composing of Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell
> us what went wrong in it.
>
> >> I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY
> was
> >> disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass
> masterpiece
> >> creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in
> >> further albums.
> >>
> >> BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of
> us
> >> speechless!! Exceptiona

RE: [arr] A letter to Rahman Sir

[wiredbeats .]

take it easy man. I am sure he has got similar feedbacks. Dont forget he is a 
film music director in commercial lines. Many have done this, even the earlier 
ones like naushad, SD etc have given poor products and it fades away. 
dont cry and all..
:)

To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
From: deven_a...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:24:11 +
Subject: [arr] A letter to Rahman Sir















 





  Dear Rahman sir,



I just watched BLUE. I was dissapointed with your association with this movie. 
BLUE's music good but still I cant find the soul I used to get from your 
earlier compositions. The movies you compose recently like sakkarkatti, yuvraj, 
etc all have fabulous music but it all went in vain. Sir, I think there is 
nobody else than MANIRATNAM use your composition well enough in this 
industry...I really dont mind if you compose only for one movie per year, 
but it is soulful one which I can hear and satisfy for whole year. Sir, you 
already achieved everything, done all types of movies.Now its time for your 
soulful compositions which will be only can found from MANIRATNAM 
movies...MANIRATNAM was the one brought you to us. Sir, I'm a avid fan of you. 
I have grown up listening to your music. Your music are food, water and air for 
me. Sir, I have all your songs CD starting from Roja till Couples Retreat. 
Everytime before your CD releases I will go to those CD shops to make sure that 
I get to hold your CD on first day itself. Sir, those days I would cry 
listening to your soulful compositions like roja, bombay, zudeida..but 
to a dissapointment now I'm crying because a composition like Chiggy Wiggy 
comes from you..Sir, I'm lost and still finding my dearest Rahman whose 
songs will be heard by everybody for a whole year like Rangeela.but now? 
People hear your music for few seconds then dump it. I'm sure after reading 
this letter some (Maybe all) Rahman fans angry with me. (To Rahman fans: Guys, 
I'm a diehard fan of Rahman just like you guys). I'm so sad to write this 
letter. Sir, if time really bothers you, please dont accept all the offers, 
instead accept one or two from those like Maniratnam and give us big 
shot.we all will be very happy. Dont feel obliged by those crap directors 
and strain yourself. we dont want your mind to be affected. Mind of a genius 
its very important and fragaile..we have to take care of it carefully.



From,

Your fan who consider you as part of his life.





 

  













  

Re: [arr] Brilliant analysis of Hai Rama

[Gopal Anandan]

Good analysis. But I really doubt if the vocal parts were completely (100%) 
written by ARR. 

As per available information - the singers used to sing multiple versions of 
each line and ARR would pick the most appropriate and stitch together along 
with his grand instrumental arrangement. I'd also assume that the basic raaga 
would be decided by ARR - but the versions and improvisations would be left to 
the skill and versatility of the singer  - akin to saying that the singer 
contributed to the song composition as well - and hence they all love to work 
with ARR for the freedom he gives.

ciao / Gopal


--- On Mon, 19/10/09, satish_srini  wrote:

From: satish_srini 
Subject: [arr] Brilliant analysis of Hai Rama
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 12:47 AM






 





  Happened to come across this interesting video on youtube:



http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=m_MSd1pidUk




 

  




 

















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[arr] Blue - worth a watch!

[balajirajagopal]

Hi - Caught up on Blue yday. Went there with zero expectations, given the rash 
of adverse reviews on the Net. But I must say I was pleasantly surprised. While 
it surely wasnt a "great" movie, it surely wasnt the "pits" that the reviews 
were saying and most definitely not a 1 1/2 star that Rajeev Masand had given 
it. And yes..i surely loved the BG score. I mean...in an action movie, the BG 
had to be loud and fast. It cudnt be poignant and soft!! And the movie was not 
boring, the stunts were decent and the photography/sound effects were top class.

Guys - Those of you who havent yet watched the movie, do check it out. It 
surely is no worse that some of the "hits" of recent times!!

Cheers,
Balaji

[arr] A letter to Rahman Sir

[deven_avin]

Dear Rahman sir,

I just watched BLUE. I was dissapointed with your association with this movie. 
BLUE's music good but still I cant find the soul I used to get from your 
earlier compositions. The movies you compose recently like sakkarkatti, yuvraj, 
etc all have fabulous music but it all went in vain. Sir, I think there is 
nobody else than MANIRATNAM use your composition well enough in this 
industry...I really dont mind if you compose only for one movie per year, 
but it is soulful one which I can hear and satisfy for whole year. Sir, you 
already achieved everything, done all types of movies.Now its time for your 
soulful compositions which will be only can found from MANIRATNAM 
movies...MANIRATNAM was the one brought you to us. Sir, I'm a avid fan of you. 
I have grown up listening to your music. Your music are food, water and air for 
me. Sir, I have all your songs CD starting from Roja till Couples Retreat. 
Everytime before your CD releases I will go to those CD shops to make sure that 
I get to hold your CD on first day itself. Sir, those days I would cry 
listening to your soulful compositions like roja, bombay, zudeida..but 
to a dissapointment now I'm crying because a composition like Chiggy Wiggy 
comes from you..Sir, I'm lost and still finding my dearest Rahman whose 
songs will be heard by everybody for a whole year like Rangeela.but now? 
People hear your music for few seconds then dump it. I'm sure after reading 
this letter some (Maybe all) Rahman fans angry with me. (To Rahman fans: Guys, 
I'm a diehard fan of Rahman just like you guys). I'm so sad to write this 
letter. Sir, if time really bothers you, please dont accept all the offers, 
instead accept one or two from those like Maniratnam and give us big 
shot.we all will be very happy. Dont feel obliged by those crap directors 
and strain yourself. we dont want your mind to be affected. Mind of a genius 
its very important and fragaile..we have to take care of it carefully.

From,
Your fan who consider you as part of his life.

Re: [arr] Mausam & Escape Live version @ Chennai Jai Ho concert on OCT 11

[Gomzy™]

go through the post again. He says the times concert sound quailty was
awesome. It was cuz of the poor strength. And the event managers put up the
same sound systems here. You dont expect the same quality now can you?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Charan Raj  wrote:

>
>
>   You trying to say, the sound will be obviously bad if there is a huge
> crowd? lol .
>
> --- On *Tue, 13/10/09, Gomzy™ * wrote:
>
>
> From: Gomzy™ 
> Subject: Re: [arr] Mausam & Escape Live version @ Chennai Jai Ho concert on
> OCT 11
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 4:15 PM
>
>
>
> The strength for the Times concert was 30K plus. You cant expect to have
> the same sound when the crowd is
> 1lakh plus can you.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Charan Raj  yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   Hi all,
>> The Mausam and escape track was a mind blowing one. And the fusion from
>> Taal to Ringa Ringa was amazing too. Many people started leaving during the
>> break thinking it was the end of the show.  From no where chithra appeared
>> and gave two splendid songs. Konjum Nilavu was an unexpected track with a
>> female rap added to it. I was expecting a song from gajini but didnt expect
>> aye bachoo. Rahman sir sang Fiqrana, obviously it was nice. The finishing
>> touch was jai ho fused with vande maataram.
>> The only thing that disappointed me is the sound. The TOI concert had a
>> very good sound when compared to the yesterdays concert. There was lot of
>> ups and downs in the sound.Rahman sir mic was not working when he started
>> Rehna tu, the starting beat was goin on and on later he managed telling
>> about the mood of the song. We miss Sridhar. :( There is no one else to
>> match him.Sivamani was asked to stop cos of the time constrain(not so sure
>> about this..) At the end of the show rahman sir said something like this not
>> his exact words "we made a lot of mistakes which you would have not
>> recognised, we will correct it next time and will rock with another show"
>>
>> ~charan~
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 12/10/09, Mathan Raj > in
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mathan Raj > in
>> >
>> Subject: [arr] Mausam & Escape Live version @ Chennai Jai Ho concert on
>> OCT 11
>> To: "arr" > com
>> >
>> Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:21 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Friends,
>>
>> The concert was went well... so many disappointments. .. there is only one
>> thing made everyone to be there till the end.. thatz Rahman. Chennai crowd
>> slightly disappointed with the playliste they have performed. 80% hindi
>> songs... however everyone enjoyed completely. My biggest disappointment is
>> the quality of sound and the stage display settings. Minus points are still
>> there... but I would like to share something good. I have recorded (only
>> audio) the live version of Mausam & Escape track.
>>
>> Rahmanji was started playing the piano with some melody... after a minute
>> i felt that something big coming to come out... when the sitar joined first
>> along with the piano... I doubt that.. finally I realised the track when the
>> electric guitar joined... at one point of time they started playing Mausam &
>> Escape WOW!!! that was a BIG surprise for crowd. Luckly I have recorded the
>> music with my mobile.
>>
>> I would recommend all the Rahmaniacs to listen to this track from 
>> http://www.mediafir
>> e.com/?t5xnyyzyn mu  . If anyone
>> recorded this with good qulity audio... PLEASE upload it and post it. Thanks
>> in advance...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mathan Raj A
>> **
>>
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[arr] Connections - Credits Requested

[icashwin]

Can somebody provide me the instrumental credits for the Nokia connections 
album.

There is mindblowing flute and Sarangi work in this album that blew me away! 
The flute may be Naveen (our good old Naveen Kumar) and the Sarangi may well be 
Ustad Sultan Khan ji

[arr] Jai Ho Instruments

[gina.montillet]

Hello
Kindly let me know if you can identify the instruments of the song Jai Ho. We 
identify the Dohl drum, Tumbi and the Raag Des. It is for my son's music essay. 
Thank you! 

Regards

[arr] Make way for these Blue singers [Rediff Video]

[Rivjot]

Blue singers singing the songs of Blue :-

Jaspreet Singh - Blue Theme

Neha Kakkar & Sonu Kakkar - Blue Theme

Sukhwinder Singh - Aaj Dil Gustakh Hai

Madhushree - Yaar Mila Tha

Vijay Prakash - Fiqrana

http://movies.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/oct/16/slide-show-1-singers-sing-songs-from-blue.htm

[arr] Brilliant analysis of Hai Rama

[satish_srini]

Happened to come across this interesting video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MSd1pidUk

[arr] Re: Correction fans HISTORIC OPENING IN BOLLYWOOD 16 CRORES FIRST DAY

[Vishal]

Whoa Whoa Whoa, dude it is 6.5 crores not 16.5!!
Even Ghajini(Hindi, of course) got 9.25 crores on its first day!!
Get your facts right!!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krish mridula  wrote:
>
> 
> dUDES ... ITS GOT THE BEST OPENING EVER ON FIRST DAY 16.5 CRORES
> --- On Sun, 18/10/09, dasara bullodu  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: dasara bullodu 
> Subject: Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 6:11 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> couldn't agree more.. the "inavertently hilarious climax" did 
> evoke spontaneous and unexpected boisterous laughters over here as well.. the 
> poor audience were like totally caught off-guard.. and actually rolled over 
> the edge of their seats onto the floor laughing..  an authentic jaspal-bhatti 
> thriller!
> 
> strangely, even the last week's couples retreat wihch was shot on a 
> "screensaver" island like blue's bahamas and sharks was a total dud which 
> just capitalized on a dry weekend with no other promising release. peter 
> billingsley would do well taking some lessons on making a comedy from anthony 
> d'souza
>  
> ARR did a splendid job like a true professional and delivered a winner in a 
> genre that he didnot touch upon before.. there are some good punjabi hip-hop 
> and rock pieces in the BGM.. hope someone can get them out here. and I 
> honestly think that the chiggy-wiggy fiasco with kylie is most likely due to 
> the director's interference
> 
> and remember, during the audio release itself, ARR gave a hint saying not to 
> expect too much.
>  
>  
>  
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Vishal  wrote:
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! Somebody had said that 
> the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then you should know that 
> the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release hype!! Also, the 
> flops 'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first day, though it 
> flopped!!
> Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was 
> the first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis 
> can't save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
> Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
> 20 second cameo that she cannot act!!
> The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have 
> been spent are the only ones worth watching!!
> The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!
> Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!
> Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!
> But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!
> Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
> where you should be glued to the screen!!
> All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
> without a trace!!
> All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is 
> absolutely pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should 
> be appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..
> Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
> me!
> Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
> Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The 
> Robot" starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Now, send attachments up to 25MB with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. 
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>

[ARR] Jaspreet Singh singing Bullu

[Gomzy™]

http://movies.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/oct/16/slide-show-1-singers-sing-songs-from-blue.htm

Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[Vinayakam Murugan]

I didn't like Chiggy Wiggy or Shano Shano. But my daughter likes it, some of
my friends like it. I can see why they like it. To each his own.


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/


On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, ichord  wrote:

>
>
> People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want,
> and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot
> me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a
> masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a
> fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. The fact that Chiggy
> went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common
> listener, not by everyone, by a lot.
>
> This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave
> it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all!
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , V S
> Rawat  wrote:
> >
> > On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:
> >
> > > exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy
> Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR.
> > > and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't
> remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either.
> > >
> > > -
> > > Jahanzeb
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group
> itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the
> song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since
> day one. Some are like going that way.
> >
> > Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a
> personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing
> called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to
> get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a
> lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't
> hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get
> authentic feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got
> misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu.
>
> >
> > The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because
> we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced
> ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has
> while ignoring some down points it is having.
> >
> > I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in
> giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.
> >
> > Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture
> about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs
> truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev
> Jayate, but also practice it.
> >
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> kishore parayath  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR
> track
> > >> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap!
> >
> > Yup, it makes me sad.
> >
> > >> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was
> > >> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood
> and
> > >> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!
> >
> > Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so
> uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in
> proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by
> ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might
> wish to share "the composing of Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell
> us what went wrong in it.
> >
> > >> I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY
> WIGGY was
> > >> disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass
> masterpiece
> > >> creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in
> > >> further albums.
> > >>
> > >> BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of
> us
> > >> speechless!! Exceptional!!
> >
> > Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy
> might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and
> we are not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man,
> that he had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years
> remains as high as always and we will devour each of his next releases.
> >
> > --
> > Rawat
> >
>
>  
>

[arr] Fake track list on Google search results!

[Aravind AM]

@Rawat:
Your point that the credibility of the group is at stake, is absolutely valid.

@ Group:
I think this logic should be extended to the "fake track lists" as well.

We should all understand that the group's posts show up on google search 
results...
Just Google for Raavan Tracklist, and you'll see that the first 4 results take 
you to the fake track list by Gopal Anandan, posted in this group!

People like us, who are regular in the group know and understand. But imagine 
any other movie buff doing a search and landing up on this fake track list... 
It would lead to rumours being spread, with the source of the rumour being our 
group! Do we want this to happen?

I appreciate one odd fun post, but not at the sake of the group's credibility. 
We've been getting exclusive updates and news about ARR in this group, but such 
posts reduce the credibility. I really enjoyed the post, but as already been 
pointed out, not everyone got the joke. So, I request Gopal Anandan to mention 
in his post if it's a fun post.


Aravind

 
Rahmania show interviews: http://rahmania.4shared.com
 
 

--- On Sun, 18/10/09, V S Rawat  wrote:

From: V S Rawat 
Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull!
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 11:16 AM






 





  On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:



> exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a 
> huge failure of ARR. 

> and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't 
> remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. 

> 

> -

> Jahanzeb



Yup. 



I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself 
that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song 
endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day 
one. Some are like going that way.



Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal 
matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called 
objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get 
authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely 
prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the 
fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback 
on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's 
endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. 



The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves 
that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring 
some down points it is having.



I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving 
their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.



Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about 
a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. 
Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also 
practice it.



> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, kishore parayath  ...> wrote:

>>

>> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track

>> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap! 



Yup, it makes me sad.



>> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was

>> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and

>> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!



Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so 
uncharacteristicall y unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in 
proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, 
out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to 
share "the composing of Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell us what 
went wrong in it.



>> I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was

>> disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece

>> creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in

>> further albums.

>>

>> BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us

>> speechless!! Exceptional! !



Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be 
a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not 
able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so 
laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as 
always and we will devour each of his next releases.



--

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[arr] Wow,what a T-Shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SATHISH AVT]

Dear Antony and all,
 
I got the A R Rahman T-shirt today morning,one of my dream comes true.Wow,what 
a T-shirt,it is more than beautiful as i expected.Our A R Rahman picture 
printed in T-shirt is best of all.The quality of T-shirt is also first 
quality.Also I request everybody in our group who has interested, to experience 
the worth of it.
 
I thanks to my dear Antony who has taken this effort for our ARR 
fan groups.I request Antony to do more kind of this T-shirts in future.Its 
worth to buy and i will be the first person to buy ever.
 
Regards,
 
Sathish - ARR my Passion

--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Antony Rav  wrote:


From: Antony Rav 
Subject: A R Rahman T-Shirt Shipping done
To: "SATHISH AVT" 
Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:39 PM






Hi Sathish i'm sorry for d delay but i managed to get the good print quality 
and i have sent the T-Shirts today morning and i have also managed  to pack two 
T's in the same pack so you need to pay the shipping for only one and below are 
the shipping details

Aramex Courier
Tracking Code : *3156352080* [ u can track your item at www.aramex.com]
Your Name as per in the Courier receipt : K.Sathish
    Ramsis Engineering 
WILL,
    P.O Box : 28967,
    East Riffa,
    Bahrain.

Please let me know after ur T's delivery and your feedback about the T-Shirt 
quality and print quality...

Thank you So much Sathish,
 Antony Ravinson.




  

[arr] Re: Food Distribution - October 18, 2009

[Santosh]

Great bro.. I feel very bad I was not there for FD but God  blessing always 
with u and all RahmanFans , I feel great that I am part of ur FD Ur Loving 
Bro..Santoshkumar  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur  wrote:
>
> Today, we had a great session together. The number was little big. We had
> some 15 people joining us .
> 
> Some new names for FD, but old names in YG like Aravind AM, Nazeef joined us
> for the FD. Its a great occasion every week end, and God Has been Kind.
> 
> Lets Join hands and do our best .
> 
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Vithur  wrote:
> 
> > Lets continue the good work. Good work is God's Work.
> >
> > Venue :- Near AM Studios
> >
> > Timing :- 11 30 A M
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Vithur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
>

Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote:

> People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they
> want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want.  Fine.  I still like the
> song.  So shoot me.  I don't care if the whole damn world hates the
> song.  I like it.  


> Is it a masterpiece?  No.  It's a fun dance song.
> But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by
> ARR is not acceptable.

ARR has already given Pappu that was a fun, simple, dance song. Nobody said 
that it was any great song, yet that became a hit without needing the crutches 
of any Kylie. Several fun dance songs by other MDs are getting hit. So, people 
know what to like and what not to like. Dust has still not settled on Chiggy 
Wiggy, let us see after six months how world rates bullu and CG then. till 
then...

>  The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts
> says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by
> everyone, by a lot.

Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't 
alter anything about Himesh.

> 
> This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old.
> Leave it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all!

--
Rawat

> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
>> On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:
>> 
>>> exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that
>>> Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people
>>> didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't remember anyone
>>> calling it a worldclass masterpiece either.
>>> 
>>> - Jahanzeb
>> Yup.
>> 
>> I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this
>> group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept
>> on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were
>> criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way.
>> 
>> Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a
>> personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is
>> a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is
>> considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some
>> members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan
>> for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other
>> people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on
>> the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this
>> group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu.
>> 
>> The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man
>> because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might
>> have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on
>> some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more
>> objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future
>> releases of ARR.
>> 
>> Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong
>> picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the
>> group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not
>> only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it.
>> 
>>> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath
>>>  wrote:
 This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling
 an ARR track as "SECOND RATE" or cheap!
>> Yup, it makes me sad.
>> 
 So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE
 from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross
 India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!
>> Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so
>> uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put
>> things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only
>> single track by ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is
>> umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to share "the composing of
>> Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell us what went wrong in
>> it.
>> 
 I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said
 CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They
 called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the
 fans who called it average, and expected in further albums.
 
 BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes
 all of us speechless!! Exceptional!!
>> Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy
>> Wiggy might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new
>> situation really and we are not able to think how to accept this
>> fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so laboriously and
>> consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as always
>> and we will devour each of his next releases.
>> 
>> -- Rawat

Re: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 7:23 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote:

> Agreed.  Can't really blame ARR for this, although I would like to
> see ARR expand to some better directors with a good track record,
> like Anurag Kashyap, Farhan Akhtar.

When this guy has the senselessness to refuse to sing even a song for ARR, why 
do we keep him in such high esteem to deserve ARR work for him?

He offended ARR. he should cease to exist for ARR.

>  ARR is a musical artist first
> and foremost and he will choose assignments which challenge his
> creativity.

--
Rawat

[arr] Re: Food Distribution - October 18, 2009

[rakesharr]

Ya it was grt today.. 
And i'm really glad to say that Karthik n I have started writing and composing 
a song in dedication to the Food Distribution we do every sunday for the last 2 
years.. 

It would be great if any of you who can write well could write some lyrics on 
this theme.. Let it be about not wasting food and how so many people are dying 
for just a morsel.. it should be inspiring and provoking.. 

Mail it to me @ rakesh...@yahoo.com..


Thanks & Regards,

Rakesh.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur  wrote:
>
> Today, we had a great session together. The number was little big. We had
> some 15 people joining us .
> 
> Some new names for FD, but old names in YG like Aravind AM, Nazeef joined us
> for the FD. Its a great occasion every week end, and God Has been Kind.
> 
> Lets Join hands and do our best .
> 
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Vithur  wrote:
> 
> > Lets continue the good work. Good work is God's Work.
> >
> > Venue :- Near AM Studios
> >
> > Timing :- 11 30 A M
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Vithur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
>

Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[ichord]

"I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group"

I diagree with this 100%.  Differing opinions don't discredit a group, but 
merely enhance it.

"then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this 
group to get authentic feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those 
got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire 
bullu."

There is nothing wrong in expressing praise and enthusiasm for a song that one 
likes, even if many others don't like it. People have different opinions and 
that is that.  Nobody is forcing anyone to like or dislike the song. 

"The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves 
that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring 
some down points it is having."

Yes, good point.  We must try not to be blind fans and critical analysis is 
always good up to a point.  However, if someone expresses like a for a song 
that many dislike, let it be.  Why challenge someone's opinion? I have learned 
this lesson too.  If you like Chiggy Wiggy, then you like it.  Whether a song 
has up points or down points is up to you.  THat's the nature of music.  One 
man's noise may be another man's symphony.  

"I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in 
giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, 
wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ 
album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved 
praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice 
it."

We are hear to express our thoughts and feelings about ARR's music.  What is 
true to some may not be true to others.  If one likes a song that you don't 
like, it doesn't make him or her bad, wrong, or giving ARR bad feedback.  When 
it comes down to the quality of a song, there is no "truth", but only taste, 
preference, and opinion.  Yes, there can be a large consensus about how a song 
is liked or disliked, but ultimately, we all have different perceptions and we 
should leave it at that.  Now, when it comes to things like sound quality and 
technical matters, then yes, there is such a thing as objectivity here and ARR 
should receive feedback on those points.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
>
> On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:
> 
> > exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is 
> > a huge failure of ARR. 
> > and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't 
> > remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. 
> > 
> > -
> > Jahanzeb
> 
> Yup. 
> 
> I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group 
> itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the 
> song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since 
> day one. Some are like going that way.
> 
> Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal 
> matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called 
> objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get 
> authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely 
> prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from 
> the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic 
> feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this 
> group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. 
> 
> The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
> love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced 
> ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has 
> while ignoring some down points it is having.
> 
> I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in 
> giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.
> 
> Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture 
> about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs 
> truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, 
> but also practice it.
> 
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track
> >> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap! 
> 
> Yup, it makes me sad.
> 
> >> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was
> >> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and
> >> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!
> 
> Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so 
> uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in 
> proper perspective, I

Re: [arr] mystery about beauty palace

[Gomzy™]

please search the group archives for the mystery.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM, devan ss  wrote:

>
>
>  hai guys.. i believe that the album beauty palace is not done by
> ARR. It was done by an unknown composer and was wrongly credited to ARR just
> to exploit his popularity to sell his album during 96. During an online chat
> in rediff with ARR(1999) a rahmaniac asked him about beauty palace. ARR
> himself replied that he dont know about such an album. Even the official
> website of ARR contain no information about Beauty palace. Senior rahmaniac
> gopal sreenivasan in his own ARR discography agrees that its a doubtful
> album of ARR. None of the trusty discographies of ARR considers beauty
> palace as our boss's album.
> Guys please share your opinions about this album just to clear out my
> mystery
>
> --
> Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click 
> here.
>
>
> 
>

[arr] mystery about beauty palace

[devan ss]

hai guys.. i believe that the album beauty palace is not done by ARR. 
It was done by an unknown composer and was wrongly credited to ARR just to 
exploit his popularity to sell his album during 96. During an online chat in 
rediff with ARR(1999) a rahmaniac asked him about beauty palace. ARR himself 
replied that he dont know about such an album. Even the official website of ARR 
contain no information about Beauty palace. Senior rahmaniac gopal sreenivasan 
in his own ARR discography agrees that its a doubtful album of ARR. None of the 
trusty discographies of ARR considers beauty palace as our boss's album. 
Guys please share your opinions about this album just to clear out my 
mystery


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Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[ichord]

People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and 
bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want.  Fine.  I still like the song.  So shoot me.  
I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song.  I like it.  Is it a 
masterpiece?  No.  It's a fun dance song.  But, I guess for some here, liking a 
fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable.  The fact that Chiggy 
went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common 
listener, not by everyone, by a lot.  

This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old.  Leave it 
to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all! 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
>
> On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:
> 
> > exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is 
> > a huge failure of ARR. 
> > and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't 
> > remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. 
> > 
> > -
> > Jahanzeb
> 
> Yup. 
> 
> I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group 
> itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the 
> song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since 
> day one. Some are like going that way.
> 
> Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal 
> matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called 
> objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get 
> authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely 
> prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from 
> the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic 
> feedback on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this 
> group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. 
> 
> The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
> love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced 
> ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has 
> while ignoring some down points it is having.
> 
> I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in 
> giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.
> 
> Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture 
> about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs 
> truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, 
> but also practice it.
> 
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track
> >> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap! 
> 
> Yup, it makes me sad.
> 
> >> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was
> >> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and
> >> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!
> 
> Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so 
> uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in 
> proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, 
> out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to 
> share "the composing of Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell us what 
> went wrong in it.
> 
> >> I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was
> >> disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass 
> >> masterpiece
> >> creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in
> >> further albums.
> >>
> >> BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us
> >> speechless!! Exceptional!!
> 
> Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might 
> be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are 
> not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he 
> had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high 
> as always and we will devour each of his next releases.
> 
> --
> Rawat
>

[arr] Re: Help Please..............

[Elanchezhian]

go to zedge.com and create your own ARR themei've been doin like dat...
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi s  wrote:
>
> Guys i beg u to please upload arrahman sirs mobile themes and  popular 
> ringtones for the mobile 
> 
> 
> I use nokia 5130 xpress music... 
> 
> 
> Themes ending with .nth are compatible... 
> 
> 
> Please upload it as the themes available in other sites are not good 
> enough
> 
> 
>   Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. 
> http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
>

Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop

[ichord]

Agreed, Mahima.  Hype is a big part of it.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Mahima Sengupta 
 wrote:
>
> INMHO the reason for most of the movies/music  falling short of the 
> expectations of the people is due to the hype created by all the promos. 
> These promos take the expectations of the people to the zenith and when the 
> music or movie falls short of that expectation even a wee bit we are not able 
> to tolerate. In the earlier years we never had such hype about anything  
> and people enjoyed what they saw or what they heard... so why has it changed 
> so much suddenly?
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Vishal  wrote:
> 
> From: Vishal 
> Subject: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 9:26 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! 
> Somebody had said that the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But 
> then you should know that the first day numbers are all because of the 
> pre-release hype!! Also, the flops 'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 
> Crore on the first day, though it flopped!!
> 
> Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was 
> the first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis 
> can't save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
> Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
> 20 second cameo that she cannot act!!
> 
> The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have 
> been spent are the only ones worth watching!!
> 
> The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!
> 
> Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!
> 
> Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!
> 
> But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!
> 
> Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
> where you should be glued to the screen!!
> 
> All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
> without a trace!!
> 
> All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is 
> absolutely pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should 
> be appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..
> 
> Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
> me!
> 
> Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
> Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The 
> Robot" starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!
>

[arr] Correction fans HISTORIC OPENING IN BOLLYWOOD 16 CRORES FIRST DAY

[krish mridula]

dUDES ... ITS GOT THE BEST OPENING EVER ON FIRST DAY 16.5 CRORES
--- On Sun, 18/10/09, dasara bullodu  wrote:


From: dasara bullodu 
Subject: Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 18 October, 2009, 6:11 PM


  




couldn't agree more.. the "inavertently hilarious climax" did evoke spontaneous 
and unexpected boisterous laughters over here as well.. the poor audience were 
like totally caught off-guard.. and actually rolled over the edge of their 
seats onto the floor laughing..  an authentic jaspal-bhatti thriller!

strangely, even the last week's couples retreat wihch was shot on a 
"screensaver" island like blue's bahamas and sharks was a total dud which just 
capitalized on a dry weekend with no other promising release. peter billingsley 
would do well taking some lessons on making a comedy from anthony d'souza
 
ARR did a splendid job like a true professional and delivered a winner in a 
genre that he didnot touch upon before.. there are some good punjabi hip-hop 
and rock pieces in the BGM.. hope someone can get them out here. and I honestly 
think that the chiggy-wiggy fiasco with kylie is most likely due to the 
director's interference

and remember, during the audio release itself, ARR gave a hint saying not to 
expect too much.
 
 
 
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Vishal  wrote:


  



We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! Somebody had said that 
the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then you should know that 
the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release hype!! Also, the flops 
'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first day, though it 
flopped!!
Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was the 
first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis can't 
save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
20 second cameo that she cannot act!!
The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have been 
spent are the only ones worth watching!!
The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!
Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!
Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!
But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!
Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
where you should be glued to the screen!!
All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
without a trace!!
All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is absolutely 
pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should be 
appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..
Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
me!
Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The Robot" 
starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!



















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[arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[ichord]

Agreed.  Can't really blame ARR for this, although I would like to see ARR 
expand to some better directors with a good track record, like Anurag Kashyap, 
Farhan Akhtar.  ARR is a musical artist first and foremost and he will choose 
assignments which challenge his creativity.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Bharathan"  wrote:
>
> Just my take. I think we are forgetting one important point here. In any 
> film, the story, script and the screenplay is the king. You can have a huge 
> cast, great music and everything else but if the basic story and screenplay 
> is weak, the film is as good as gone. And screenplay is an area where 
> directors have not worked at all. And that is because they consider the 
> Indian audience to be idiots. The last 3 to 4 years, the projects where ARR 
> has scored music and bombed has all had very weak to non-existent script / 
> screenplay. Just look at the ones which had become hits â€" Guru, RDB, 
> Ghajini, JA. All had a good story to tell and executed well.   Same with 
> Sivaji in Tamil. To me JTJN did not have a great script or screenplay but was 
> still a hit probably due to other feel good factors. This is like a one off 
> case. Looking at the ones which bombed like Dilli 6, Yuvraaj or a MP all 
> marred by poor storytelling and script.  Dilli 6 had good potential but its 
> jerky narrative style did not suit our audience. 
> 
>  
> 
> So what do our ARR do? He sits in story telling sessions with the director 
> and the director comes across as a great story teller in those sessions which 
> inspires him to do great songs. And then the director goes ahead and shoots 
> the songs badly (mostly happens in his Tamil films) and add to it cannot tell 
> the story properly because of a shoddy, disjointed script -great recipe for a 
> dud. I can’t imagine our man sitting and watching these scenes which 
> apparently make no sense whatsoever and expect him to come out with inspiring 
> background score. As ARR once mentioned in a Tamil interview I think. He said 
> something like Shankar who says very little in his story telling sessions but 
> gives a great final product. It shows in all Shankar’s movies. His content 
> may not be anything to rave about but Shankar’s forte is his tight script 
> and screenplay. 
> 
>  
> 
> ARR is left with very little choice. Probably only MR, Shankar and AG are 
> consistent when it comes to both the screenplay and the execution. ROM comes 
> next. The others lack consistency. Blokes like Anthony D’Souza should be 
> avoided like plague. I am already shuddering to think about his supposedly 
> next project with ARR. Especially teaming with another buffoon like Akshay 
> Kumar. So unless directors have a good story to tell and execute it properly 
> to reach the audience this problem is going to plague geniuses like ARR. 
> 
>  
> 
> We really cannot blame ARR if the directors of other supposedly good films 
> have not approached ARR. I think he has stated numerous times that money is 
> not a consideration for the right project. In Hollywood, you have agents 
> scouting around for good projects for their clients. Nothing of that sort 
> exists here. So one has to live with mediocrity till then. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of V S Rawat
> Sent: 17 October, 2009 1:45 PM
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> On 10/17/2009 1:17 PM India Time, _balajirajagopal_ wrote:
> 
> > My personal view is that this is a very "convenient" and unfair
> > comment to make. Comeon, how many of you sincerely thought that JTYJN
> > would be a monster hit or that Delhi 6 would be disaster - and that
> > too when the movie was being made?
> 
> Can't say about JTYJN. It came out of the blue, no information at all and 
> then music released just like that, along with Ada, soon followed by the 
> movie, so I couldn't get any opinion really made entangled in all that.
> 
> but, I didn't expect D6 to flop at all. I had thought it would follow RDB 
> success of ROP Mehra, alongwith even more allrounder music by our man in D6 
> than was in RDB. The OP saying that D6 was to be a flop couldn't be correct. 
> everybody expected it to be a big hit.
> 
> > It is all a question of how a
> > director visualises the movie, storyline etc when he talks to ARR.
> > ARR must obviously have had some faith in the
> > Director/storyline/Producer when he signed those movies. He cannot be
> > faulted that they failed. 
> 
> Yaar, when 1-2 movies flop, it could be a change, but when more than half the 
> movies ARR is doing are flopping on box office, there has to be some problem 
> in selection.
> 
> Of course, ARR is not responsible for the movies going flop, he always giving 
> great music. But, one should sense that there is something wrong in his 
> selection of movies.
> 
> > Yes...one th

Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop

[dasara bullodu]

couldn't agree more.. the "inavertently hilarious climax" did
evoke spontaneous and unexpected boisterous laughters over here as well..
the poor audience were like totally caught off-guard.. and actually rolled
over the edge of their seats onto the floor laughing..  an authentic
jaspal-bhatti thriller!

strangely, even the last week's couples retreat wihch was shot on a
"screensaver" island like blue's bahamas and sharks was a total dud which
just capitalized on a dry weekend with no other promising release. peter
billingsley would do well taking some lessons on making a comedy from
anthony d'souza

ARR did a splendid job like a true professional and delivered a winner in a
genre that he didnot touch upon before.. there are some good punjabi hip-hop
and rock pieces in the BGM.. hope someone can get them out here. and I
honestly think that the chiggy-wiggy fiasco with kylie is most likely due to
the director's interference
and remember, during the audio release itself, ARR gave a hint saying not to
expect too much.



On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Vishal  wrote:

>
>
> We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! Somebody had said
> that the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then you should
> know that the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release hype!!
> Also, the flops 'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first
> day, though it flopped!!
> Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was
> the first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's
> bikinis can't save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy
> jig! And Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in
> her 7 minute 20 second cameo that she cannot act!!
> The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have
> been spent are the only ones worth watching!!
> The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!
> Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!
> Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!
> But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!
> Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at
> places where you should be glued to the screen!!
> All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea
> without a trace!!
> All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is
> absolutely pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you
> should be appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..
> Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it
> disappointed me!
> Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek
> Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The
> Robot" starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop

[Mahima Sengupta]

INMHO the reason for most of the movies/music  falling short of the 
expectations of the people is due to the hype created by all the promos. These 
promos take the expectations of the people to the zenith and when the music or 
movie falls short of that expectation even a wee bit we are not able to 
tolerate. In the earlier years we never had such hype about anything  and 
people enjoyed what they saw or what they heard... so why has it changed so 
much suddenly?


--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Vishal  wrote:

From: Vishal 
Subject: [arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 9:26 AM






 





  We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! 
Somebody had said that the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then 
you should know that the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release 
hype!! Also, the flops 'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first 
day, though it flopped!!

Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was the 
first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis can't 
save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
20 second cameo that she cannot act!!

The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have been 
spent are the only ones worth watching!!

The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!

Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!

Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!

But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!

Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
where you should be glued to the screen!!

All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
without a trace!!

All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is absolutely 
pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should be 
appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..

Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
me!

Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The Robot" 
starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!




 

  




 

















  

RE: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[Anand Bharathan]

Just my take. I think we are forgetting one important point here. In any film, 
the story, script and the screenplay is the king. You can have a huge cast, 
great music and everything else but if the basic story and screenplay is weak, 
the film is as good as gone. And screenplay is an area where directors have not 
worked at all. And that is because they consider the Indian audience to be 
idiots. The last 3 to 4 years, the projects where ARR has scored music and 
bombed has all had very weak to non-existent script / screenplay. Just look at 
the ones which had become hits – Guru, RDB, Ghajini, JA. All had a good story 
to tell and executed well.   Same with Sivaji in Tamil. To me JTJN did not have 
a great script or screenplay but was still a hit probably due to other feel 
good factors. This is like a one off case. Looking at the ones which bombed 
like Dilli 6, Yuvraaj or a MP all marred by poor storytelling and script.  
Dilli 6 had good potential but its jerky narrative style did not suit our 
audience. 

 

So what do our ARR do? He sits in story telling sessions with the director and 
the director comes across as a great story teller in those sessions which 
inspires him to do great songs. And then the director goes ahead and shoots the 
songs badly (mostly happens in his Tamil films) and add to it cannot tell the 
story properly because of a shoddy, disjointed script -great recipe for a dud. 
I can’t imagine our man sitting and watching these scenes which apparently make 
no sense whatsoever and expect him to come out with inspiring background score. 
As ARR once mentioned in a Tamil interview I think. He said something like 
Shankar who says very little in his story telling sessions but gives a great 
final product. It shows in all Shankar’s movies. His content may not be 
anything to rave about but Shankar’s forte is his tight script and screenplay. 

 

ARR is left with very little choice. Probably only MR, Shankar and AG are 
consistent when it comes to both the screenplay and the execution. ROM comes 
next. The others lack consistency. Blokes like Anthony D’Souza should be 
avoided like plague. I am already shuddering to think about his supposedly next 
project with ARR. Especially teaming with another buffoon like Akshay Kumar. So 
unless directors have a good story to tell and execute it properly to reach the 
audience this problem is going to plague geniuses like ARR. 

 

We really cannot blame ARR if the directors of other supposedly good films have 
not approached ARR. I think he has stated numerous times that money is not a 
consideration for the right project. In Hollywood, you have agents scouting 
around for good projects for their clients. Nothing of that sort exists here. 
So one has to live with mediocrity till then. 

 

 

From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of V S Rawat
Sent: 17 October, 2009 1:45 PM
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

 

  

On 10/17/2009 1:17 PM India Time, _balajirajagopal_ wrote:

> My personal view is that this is a very "convenient" and unfair
> comment to make. Comeon, how many of you sincerely thought that JTYJN
> would be a monster hit or that Delhi 6 would be disaster - and that
> too when the movie was being made?

Can't say about JTYJN. It came out of the blue, no information at all and then 
music released just like that, along with Ada, soon followed by the movie, so I 
couldn't get any opinion really made entangled in all that.

but, I didn't expect D6 to flop at all. I had thought it would follow RDB 
success of ROP Mehra, alongwith even more allrounder music by our man in D6 
than was in RDB. The OP saying that D6 was to be a flop couldn't be correct. 
everybody expected it to be a big hit.

> It is all a question of how a
> director visualises the movie, storyline etc when he talks to ARR.
> ARR must obviously have had some faith in the
> Director/storyline/Producer when he signed those movies. He cannot be
> faulted that they failed. 

Yaar, when 1-2 movies flop, it could be a change, but when more than half the 
movies ARR is doing are flopping on box office, there has to be some problem in 
selection.

Of course, ARR is not responsible for the movies going flop, he always giving 
great music. But, one should sense that there is something wrong in his 
selection of movies.

> Yes...one thing that ARR could look at is
> signing the big banners. Having said that even a Yashraj films had a
> series of bloopers last year. So, what does he do? He cannot be
> insisting that Aamir khan signs him for every film or that Shankar or
> Mani Rathinam make a movie every 6 months (And yes...pls do not
> forget that notwithstanding of its excellent music, Dil Se, Thiruda
> Thiruda or even Iruvar were big flops!!

I don't know about Tamil versions of Thiruda Thiruda or Iruvar, but Dil Se 
getting flop didn't harm anybody really. :-) ha 

[arr] Help Please..............

[ravi s]

Guys i beg u to please upload arrahman sirs mobile themes and  popular 
ringtones for the mobile 


I use nokia 5130 xpress music... 


Themes ending with .nth are compatible... 


Please upload it as the themes available in other sites are not good enough


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[arr] Re: Food Distribution - October 18, 2009

[Vithur]

Today, we had a great session together. The number was little big. We had
some 15 people joining us .

Some new names for FD, but old names in YG like Aravind AM, Nazeef joined us
for the FD. Its a great occasion every week end, and God Has been Kind.

Lets Join hands and do our best .

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Vithur  wrote:

> Lets continue the good work. Good work is God's Work.
>
> Venue :- Near AM Studios
>
> Timing :- 11 30 A M
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
>
>
>


-- 
regards,
Vithur

[arr] 'Blue' is a BIG Flop

[Vishal]

We guys have to accept that 'Blue' is a huge failure!! Somebody had said that 
the film raked Rs.6.5 crore on the opening day..But then you should know that 
the first day numbers are all because of the pre-release hype!! Also, the flops 
'Kambakkht Ishq' had collected Rs.7.5 Crore on the first day, though it 
flopped!!
Also, the film is worth nothing, I went to the film very excited as it was the 
first underwater film in India, but came out yawning.Lara Dutta's bikinis can't 
save the film, neither can Kylie Minogue with her Chiggy-Wiggy jig! And 
Katrina, she is great!! She proves it again to everybody even in her 7 minute 
20 second cameo that she cannot act!!
The so called action sequences for which, allegedly, crores of rupees have been 
spent are the only ones worth watching!!
The great BG work by ARR makes it really interesting!
Reul Pookutty's work is also commendable!
Anthony also picks jaw-droppingly beautiful locations like the Bahamas!
But the low IQ dialogues and the weak script make it a dim-witted thriller!
Also, the Climax is inadvertantly hilarious!! You will be laughing at places 
where you should be glued to the screen!!
All I say is Blue is totally washed up and is going to sink into the sea 
without a trace!!
All those ones who said ARR makes a wrong choice in picking films is absolutely 
pointless, because doing such a film is a challenge and you should be 
appreciating ARR sir instead of criticizing him..
Well, it is not like I had many expectations from 'Blue', but it disappointed 
me!
Anyways, I'm all geared up for Mani Ratnam's "Raavan" starring Abhishek 
Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Vikram and Shankar's "Endhiran-The Robot" 
starring Rajnikanth and Aish again!

Re: Fwd: [arr] ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think?

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 6:27 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote:

> Don't think Slumdog Millionaire was about the money 

Right.

> - it was a low
> budget movie. It's really just down to luck of the draw... the problem
> is the attachment of the Boss to a movie before it is made helps to
> raise finance. How can the Boss know how the film will turn out after
> it's been completed. ?

That is where the "auditor's finger" is needed. he needs to evolve some ways to 
figure that out.

In any case, if the first film can't be predicted, doing a second film for 
Anthony D'souza or Ketan Mehta (Mangal Pandey) would be a totally wrong 
decision.

--
Rawat

> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vinayakam Murugan  wrote:
>> Check out Ha Reham and Hashar Bashar from Aamir,
>>
>> Amit Trivedi is a very promising MD
>>
>> On 10/17/09, V S Rawat  wrote:
>>> On 10/17/2009 1:17 PM India Time, _balajirajagopal_ wrote:
>>>
 My personal view is that this is a very "convenient" and unfair
 comment to make. Comeon, how many of you sincerely thought that JTYJN
 would be a monster hit or that Delhi 6 would be disaster - and that
 too when the movie was being made?
>>> Can't say about JTYJN. It came out of the blue, no information at all and
>>> then music released just like that, along with Ada, soon followed by the
>>> movie, so I couldn't get any opinion really made entangled in all that.
>>>
>>> but, I didn't expect D6 to flop at all. I had thought it would follow RDB
>>> success of ROP Mehra, alongwith even more allrounder music by our man in D6
>>> than was in RDB. The OP saying that D6 was to be a flop couldn't be correct.
>>> everybody expected it to be a big hit.
>>>
 It is all a question of how a
 director visualises the movie, storyline etc when he talks to ARR.
 ARR must obviously have had some faith in the
 Director/storyline/Producer when he signed those movies. He cannot be
 faulted that they failed.
>>> Yaar, when 1-2 movies flop, it could be a change, but when more than half
>>> the movies ARR is doing are flopping on box office, there has to be some
>>> problem in selection.
>>>
>>> Of course, ARR is not responsible for the movies going flop, he always
>>> giving great music. But, one should sense that there is something wrong in
>>> his selection of movies.
>>>
 Yes...one thing that ARR could look at is
 signing the big banners. Having said that even a Yashraj films had a
 series of bloopers last year. So, what does he do? He cannot be
 insisting that Aamir khan signs him for every film or that Shankar or
 Mani Rathinam make a movie every 6 months (And yes...pls do not
 forget that notwithstanding of its excellent music, Dil Se, Thiruda
 Thiruda or even Iruvar were big flops!!
>>> I don't know about Tamil versions of Thiruda Thiruda or Iruvar, but Dil Se
>>> getting flop didn't harm anybody really. :-) ha ha. Everybody associated
>>> with the film gained a lot of critical and public acclaim for it.
>>>
>>> Similarly, for Hindi Yuva, it had so much expectations that local cinema
>>> halls here have even increased the rates for all classes just for this movie
>>> as they said that movie was sold to them at much high cost. Not just
>>> multiplex, but even the single screen traditional theatres. And it was the
>>> first time in my entire life that I had seen these theatres increasing rates
>>> just for one movie. And Yuva no way did even slightly near that expectation
>>> on box office.
>>>
>>> A well made movie flopping on box office hurts only those Ronnie Screwala
>>> financers who put moolah in the movie. They don't get returns on investment
>>> whereas everybody else gains from such a movie. We still want ARR to work
>>> with Deepa Mehta even though none of her films is a superhit.
>>>
>>> Still, films flopping on account of being badly made (like Mangal Pandey or
>>> Blue) is what hurts them. And such movies hurt everybody related with the
>>> film, even the MD or background people. That is where the choice of
>>> selection comes - Whether the people associated with the movie were wrong in
>>> deciding to do it.
>>>
>>> D6 could be an exception that it was a badly executed movie and so it
>>> flopped, but we would still like to see ARR pairing with ROP Mehra.
>>>
 My request - Pls do a movie with Karan Johar, Aditya Chopra and
 Farhan Akhtar. If not nothing else, at least the chances of the movie
 being a hit is higher than for the other directors!!!
>>> yes, these directors have shown a consistent music sense in their movies, so
>>> they should be given some consideration even though some of their movies
>>> don't do well on box office or even music didn't do well.
>>>
>>> What happens in the background dealings is not get known, but one thing that
>>> had come out was ARR refusing Om Shanti Om solely because ARR wanted
>>> percentage of sales that SRK didn't agree. Well, OSO become a super hit, so
>>> ARR not doing it came out as a wro

Re: [arr] Re: ARR is very weak in selecting projects! What u think? - Not at all!

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 12:00 AM India Time, _mohammed sajin_ wrote:

> Look, always SEL takes the cream of Bollywood.

Why? How? What makes producer/ director turn to them?

Do SEL take less money, take less time in giving music, are accessible right 
next door in the city and not across the country at another coast?

There have to be a reason for anything that is happening. And we may analyze 
those reasons and draw some conclusions and adapt.

> 
> How they can manage to make the perfect selection!!!
>  
--
Rawat

Re: [arr] Re: Boss ar Rahman no:1 movie Hollywood and bollywood

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 7:34 AM India Time, _vimaljk_ wrote:

> you're right!...the #1 grossing movie in both Hollywood and Bollywood..how 
> cool is that??
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krish mridula  wrote:
>>
>> I want to tell da fanz one thing , in da Diwali releases blue has collected 
>> 6.5 crores in one Day and  beat others all the b only 1.5 and main aur mrs 
>> 1.25 as per boxofficeindia.com. Go to buzz 18 .. Janta likes blue .. Chech 
>> the video ,Dis is wat matters . Hollywood bollywood both da world boss movie 
>> number one ..., damn all the critics.. At the end of the day .,, movies 
>> needs to make money and be profitable.. Jai ho

May be not so cool if 99% of those who went to see the movie curse that their 
money and time got wasted.

--
Rawat

>> --- On Sat, 17/10/09, myown_niche  wrote:
>>
>>> From: myown_niche 
>>> Subject: [arr] Re: Taran Adarsh Interview with A R Rahman
>>> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 6:18 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>   Lovely! I find it so hard to be so
>>> simple and humble and honest like him! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "I want them all (SEL, Vishal-Sekhar, Vishal
>>> Bharadwaj, Salim-Sulaiman etc.) to make it big". Great
>>> words! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have to learn a lot from him! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In arrahmanfans@
>>> yahoogroups. com, "A.R.Rajib" >> ..> wrote:
>>>
 http://www.youtube.
>>> com/watch? v=0_laIeN- Q44
>>>
 -- 
 - Regards
 ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
>>>

Re: [arr] Rahman's beats echo in Hollywood

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 5:06 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote:

> Collaborations with Nicole Scherzinger of The Pussycat Dolls and the 
> iconic Kylie Minogue may not have garnered many fans in the Asian 
> Sub-continent, 

Seems we should discuss this aspect also. Seems ARR can do with some humble 
suggestions of whom he collaborates with.

Could members suggest what went wrong, if anything, with "Nicole Scherzinger of 
The Pussycat Dolls" and "Kylie Minogue", and what type of celebrities he should 
collaborate with. Don't just give names, give the elaborate reason please.

> but Rahman's first full-fledged Hollywood 
> project,�/Couples Retreat/, has brought the Bollywood beat to the 
> powerful corridors of Universal Studios.
> 
> "I did receive a lot of negative feedback over the/�Jai Ho�/remix with 
> The Pussycat Dolls, but the idea behind that track was to market this 
> sound to a wider, international fan base and the song did just that," 
> said Rahman. "Plus, it worked for my Hollywood career and got 
> me�/Couples Retreat/."

Yup, as it was the first time, ARR took a decision that he thought good enough. 
It is absolutely ok because the only other options for him were
- not to do sdm,
- not to let Pussydolls do the remix, 
- not to use Kylie
- not to do Couples Retreat

We can see that these options would not have lead us or him to anywhere. So it 
is good that he went ahead.

But, now that feedback is out that SDM was the best decision, sadly pussydolls, 
Kylie and Couples Retreat didn't do well. So it needs to be analyzed and some 
conclusions might be drawn and future strategies have to be made. 

Learn from mistakes.

But do commit mistakes instead of not doing anything at all.

I would still like ARR to say Yes to another collaboration for another 
pussydolls and another Kylie and do another CR, even if these all again fail, 
instead of saying No.

> "When I signed on for the film, the brief given to me was a group of 
> misfits retire to an international island for a brief stay where they 
> encounter an Indian guru. So I thought, why should I continue to produce 
> boring stuff when global tastes are changing? I had a platform and I 
> used it. In this case, bringing Hindi, Sanskrit and Tamil languages into 
> a Hollywood film soundtrack," he said.

As CR as a movie has failed, but all reviews I think are praising the music, I 
don't think ARR at all wrong in deciding what kind of music CR needed.

Still, none of the CR songs become "my heart will go on", so some thinking 
might be required.

And I think there is nothing really wrong. CR was an investment of ARR. CR was 
a learning lesson given by ARR to English audience. A switch of culture was too 
drastic but this could not be helped. English audience have remained centered 
in themselves, their types of movie, their types of music for more than a 
century, and a single CR is no way going to make them change their ways. May 
be, half a dozen or more failed CR would be required to slowly bring the 
acceptance and transition.

So, our man needs to give his style of great music in further half dozen 
hollywood films that are going to fail on box office. It is required. It is 
stepping stone. it can't be done away with.

> The Vince Vaughn production has already climbed to the top of the 
> weekend box office with $35.3 million, (Dh130m) since its Friday 
> opening, with the music album garnering positive reviews on/Amazon.com/. 
> Ask Rahman if this experimentation was worth the risk and the musician 
> gives a non-committal response.

If the writer expected ARR to say that he is going to change his style and 
going to adapt to hollywood style, only then the following response is 
non-committal. 
To me, it seems he is saying that "I have been giving successful and 
critically-praised music for 32 years so I know what is needed and I will 
continue to do that." That is absolutely correct. He rightly said "the writer 
has to understand." but he didn't. :-) he he

> "You have to understand, I've been composing music since the age of 11. 
> Now, at 43, I have done it all and it's time for me to move on to new 
> challenges," he said.

--
One thing that may still be done is that: ARR records CR songs with Hindi/ 
Tamil lyrics and the rights holder release the music albums and movie in Hindi/ 
Tamil in India so that at least Indian audience gets to hear and to like it.

He might consider to put some sort of lyrics or refrains in so many "music 
only" songs of CR, as in India, pure bgm is not going to be a hit.
--

> "My public profile also enables me to use my position for a greater 
> good. After 9/11, there was hatred amongst races and religion, yet music 
> transcends all these barriers. Lyrics perform a great role in carrying 
> subliminal messages and I have banked on this to change international 
> perception. Now people listen to Indian music with pride and I believe I 
> have played a small part in this thanks to�/Slumdog Millionaire/."

small pa

Re: [arr] Chennai Concert video DVD...

[mohammed yaseen]

no my friend 


--- On Sat, 10/17/09, Gnanavel Nandagopal  wrote:


From: Gnanavel Nandagopal 
Subject: Re: [arr] Chennai Concert video DVD...
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 5:43 AM


  







Is there any channel going to telecast the program?



From: shiraz shira 
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 15 October, 2009 10:11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Chennai Concert video DVD...

  



I am wondering why they are not releasing any concert CDs
Disappointed. ..





From: Vithur 
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 4:11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Chennai Concert video DVD...

  

I dont think u can get it anywhere 


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, sathiharan  wrote:


  



Hi guys,
Can any one tell me when and were can i get the DVD/CD of Chennai Jai Ho 
Concert.

By 
Haran






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Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[V S Rawat]

On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote:

> exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a 
> huge failure of ARR. 
> and yes though people didn't agree that it is a "failure" but i don't 
> remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. 
> 
> -
> Jahanzeb

Yup. 

I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself 
that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song 
endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day 
one. Some are like going that way.

Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal 
matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called 
objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get 
authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely 
prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the 
fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback 
on the "goodness" of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's 
endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. 

The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we 
love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves 
that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring 
some down points it is having.

I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving 
their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR.

Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about 
a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. 
Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also 
practice it.

> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath  
> wrote:
>>
>> This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track
>> as "SECOND RATE" or cheap! 

Yup, it makes me sad.

>> So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was
>> certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and
>> accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders!

Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so 
uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in 
proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, 
out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to 
share "the composing of Chiggy Wiggy" or something like that to tell us what 
went wrong in it.

>> I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was
>> disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece
>> creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in
>> further albums.
>>
>> BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us
>> speechless!! Exceptional!!

Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be 
a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not 
able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so 
laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as 
always and we will devour each of his next releases.

--
Rawat

Re: [arr] Such Bull!

[Gomzy™]

Blue is as disappointing as it can get. Just stupid and ridiculous. Even AR
fails to charm with his background score. Maybe cuz the movie is so bad.
There is this female humming when Sanjay Dutt and Rahul Dev are shooting at
each other. The music at this point was unbearable.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM, V S Rawat  wrote:

>
>
> On 10/17/2009 9:43 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote:
>
> >
> > Akshay casually sizes up a white girl, and goes, "Oh you are Kylie M i
> > n o g u e,' before they begin heavy calisthenics on stage.
>
> Is it so? Just a technicality. Somehow I remember that it was Zayed who
> remarks "is she Kyile Minogue?" or something like that. Or was it Akshay
> saying above?
>
> Seems Mayank Shekhar concentrated so much on Kylie's beauty that he got the
> dialogue and the speaker jumbled up. Or was that me? :-) he he he
>
> > The only minor gems I could spot in this huge aquarium is an
> > instrumental or two of Rahman's, in an otherwise limp soundtrack.
>
> Exactly. I am already missing the bgms of this film. Hope the cd/ dvd
> becomes available in parlours, and some devoted fan rips and shares them. I
> was not really into bgms as I find it impossible to remember bgms that are
> not having lyrics. But I would like to listen to blue bgms.
>
> > Just so you know why some dumb economies just deserve a recession.
> >
> > mayank.shek...@hindustantimes.com 
>
> --
> Rawat
> 
>

[arr] Couples Retreat Soundtrack Review

[orktane]

Couples Retreat Soundtrack
by Chris Neilan

The Couples Retreat soundtrack. A.R. Rahman has sold more than 100 million 
records worldwide, plus 200 million cassettes. Yes, cassettes. He's one of the 
world's all time top selling recording artists, and a very influential figure 
indeed. He was also the first Indian citizen to win an Academy Award for his 
Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack in 2008 – and just to show off, he won two. For 
the Couples Retreat soundtrack, his first work with a Hollywood studio, the 
Indian John Williams has produced a humourless if not entirely charmless 
accompaniment to a Vaughn/Favreau comedy, which treads a thin line between 
orchestral ambience and inconsequence, and ends up sounding something like 
James Bond's massage music.

Melding mild intrigue with jaunty woodwind and bongo rhythms might make a 
fitting accompaniment to the film's tropical island imagery, but it sure 
doesn't make for a thrilling listen. Pleasant would be a good way to describe 
it, if I wasn't so tempted to call it dull. And if I wasn't so assaulted with 
images of middle class men in hemp trousers hanging dreamcatchers over their 
futons.

Rahman's Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack was a different kettle of fish 
altogether, but applying his undoubted compositional skill to a multiplex 
friendly relationship comedy seems to have had a detrimental effect on his brio 
– the weaker tracks here have little more character than the title music to an 
RPG. Maybe some of the appeal of mixing traditional Indian musicality with the 
atypical symphony scoring of a Hollywood crowd-pleaser is lost in translation.

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