Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
Diya - Nicely written. But, I feel that we put undue pressure on the maestro with the below statement. That “fairly good” is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only masterpieces that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated with his name! I am one of those who like CWG theme song... didn't have to force myself to like it. Listened few times on my iPod and bingo! Few more points * In one of the news conferences - ARR requested Media to write all the good work that went into organizing CWG. They didn't take it well that minute and I see that current media bashing is a result of it. * To me, the song actually starts after the guitar - I liked the way both guitar and sitar are blended. The only problem to me is the pace and missing layers. As you rightly pointed out, it looks like he was asked to slow down remove noisy layers Cheers, From: diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:25:18 PM Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song Hi all, Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a repetition :) And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there. Thanks! http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/ Diya
Re: [arr] ARRish track from 90s
Well.. am sorry by listening to it I can definitely say its not by AR.. :o) On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:18 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBzXBOUqCM For a long time i thought this track is by ARR !! And it does sound like an ARR track as well !! Do listen !! Dil mera bole hello how are you ! M Sure many of us here will still think that this is by ARR !! :P Saying u again it is NOT by ARR !! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
Oh Man!! But why do we need this false propaganda? I cant believe people didnt like this song. I hear this song all the day and night it has a lot of vibe and for the past few days i am starting my day with this song. But ofcourse opinion differs, May be they genuinely didnt like this song or didnt have the so called feel. I accept it but for godsake never ever say that Shakira's Waka Waka song is better than CWG theme. I am trying to stay calm but sorry to say Its absoutely ridiculous. Its such an amateurish song when compared to his composition. Few reasons i could figure why Waka Wka was so popular among the masses were because 1: It has Shakira in it 2: It was about Football and the reason why CWG theme is generating such speculations COULD BE because 1: A.R.Rahman was paid 5+ crores for this song 2: It was about common wealth games (who cares atleast 50%(or even more) of our population wouldnt know what are all the games played in the event and where it is scheduled to be held this year) If the reasons were not found convincing then better have your friend who had neither heard waka waka nor CWG theme and play both the songs one after the other. Then ask him which one is best. My friend unanimously said it was CWG theme. --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 2:37 PM Sorry!! Big blunder in my previous post. I meant to say But on the other hand, if after multiple listens some of us honestly feel it isn't ARR quality, I really DON'T think we should pretend to like it and artificially promote it just because it's an ARR creation. Missed out the don't which altered the meaning completely. Should have read more carefully before posting. Sorry! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diya ganguly_d...@... wrote: Again, this is my personal opinion. Feel free to differ. From what I get from this forum, there are people who really like the song and there are others who don't feel it's that great. For all those who genuinely like it: by all means do voice your opinion and pledge support to the song via all possible channels. It makes perfect sense and is justified. But on the other hand, if after multiple listens some of us honestly feel it isn't ARR quality, I really think we should pretend to like it and artificially promote it just because it's an ARR creation. That would amount to lowering our expectations of him, which undermines his immeasurable genius. After all he himself has taught us to expect nothing but the best from him. I remember hearing him say in an interview to all his fans Appreciate ONLY good music, don't appreciate everything. He is too great a creative genius to be affected by what's going on. Occasional setbacks are inevitable in anyone's life and for someone like ARR, one setback isn't going to have any effect on his stature. I know he's being subjected to a lot of unjust criticism, but he'll only emerge stronger and better. He really is way above such things! If this song were composed by anyone else, it would not face such harsh criticism. Kind of unfair. But then we can't really compare ARR with anyone else. He is a class of his own and warrants extreme levels of expectations! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Farzad Khaleel farsad666@ wrote: 1 Lakh 7 hearings in the first 5 days of uploading. Let we need another proof ? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Surya Chivukula suryachivukula@wrote: your are right dude let promote the song through social networking too --- On *Wed, 1/9/10, wiredbeats wiredbeats@* wrote: From: wiredbeats wiredbeats@ Subject: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 11:43 PM Play the CWG track all the freakin time, promote it, play it in your car, house, office, if you are a DJ..play it loud in your club. Just play it all the freakin time in front of other people...let them all get a chance to grow into the track. Time for Fans to do the job. Remember, this rarely happens with AR.Infact never. -- My charity at Cradleindia.org http://www.cradleindia.org/ and music atwiredbeats.com http://www.wiredbeats.com/ -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
it might bit dramatic.. but literally, if some one comes to me and say stop listening to AR's music , to me it would be like saying stop breathing.. thats the passion and love most of us here have towards AR his music.. So, no doubt that we are there with him... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: Totally with you ARR!The CWG theme is great..Endhiran is spectacular...Semmozhi is epic...Gujurat Anthem is good...Komaram Puli had its gems...Raavanan was solid...and of course...Vinnai Thandi Varuvaya is your crowning glory!...looking forward to Jhoota Hai Sachi and the score for 127 Hours...keep up the amazing work...you are one of the greatest musicians in the history of the WORLD! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: By no means CWG theme song is mediocre or bad. A R Rahman sir, we love you and your music. We will always be with you - not just during rough times like these. Year 2010 has been tremendous so far... thanks for making our life so beautiful with your music. Cheers, From: RAJA N.S. rajan...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:45:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN We are always with you Rahman sir.. Regards N.S. Raja --- On Thu, 2/9/10, Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... wrote: From: Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 8:21 PM We are with you Rahman saab Regards, Srikanth Narisettynaga --- On Thu, 2/9/10, mb4zap® moinboss4...@... wrote: From: mb4zap® moinboss4...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 10:24 AM I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36eee@ wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation. -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] ARRish track from 90s
Actually I don't recall the album name by ARR with which this song came as a promo in the cassette (might be composed by Adesh Srivastava). However you may find it ARRish by listening to it as an isolated song, but during playing the cassette once the Rahman songs are getting finished and this getting started at the end of side B... it sounds to me as very noisy and personally never felt it Rahmanish never mind Arijit On 3 September 2010 07:48, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBzXBOUqCM For a long time i thought this track is by ARR !! And it does sound like an ARR track as well !! Do listen !! Dil mera bole hello how are you ! M Sure many of us here will still think that this is by ARR !! :P Saying u again it is NOT by ARR !! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Re: Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?
Yes...I too want a classical album by AR.Too be specifc I want a AR-Shyam Benegal combo rite now. Thats because of a string of commercial albums released. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote: Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran CWG song, it just occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water songs. Been long time. Regards Aakarsh
[arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
Thats precisely what I am saying. A better choice of word by Ar wouldnt have given media a chance to misinterpret. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: Actually, going beyond doesn't necessarily mean to surpass something. It can also mean to be different or away from something. In that light, probably ARR would have meant that CWG theme would be something different than Waka Waka rather than what was interpreted by the media. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:43 PM  He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as inappropriate choice of word. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven nivensrn@ wrote: which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass??? Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!! Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms Regards Aakarsh  Â
Re: [arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010
He said 'KM Music conservatory is doing awesome job' I guess he meant they are doing a awesome job in bringing out talented singers. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin mnsa...@... wrote: Why he mentioned KM Music conservatory. SAJIN From: Sriram S srirams_pa...@... To: A R Rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 5:12:54 PM Subject: [arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWfqvX6OOs
[arr] Re: I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
We are getting too sensitive here. Thats precisely making people feel scared too post. Listened to something. If it pleases your ears enjoy. Share what you liked. If somebody disagrees, try understanding why? If you don't agree leave them in peace. why should we have a firewall, and filter words like 'mediocre', 'Average', 'bad'? Anyways, getting sensitive and upset about something is also a personal choice. Just that my choice happens to be different. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravis...@... wrote: I dont think there can be anything painful than a fan himself calls AR's work as mediocre. If a fan can use such a term its no surprise that those who aren't AR fans or those who don't like him say anything negative about AR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
[arr] Re: ARRish track from 90s
This song was released on Tu Hi Mera Dil CD by Ultra Audio (I guess thats the connection). Its from movie Yash, used to love it back in old days =) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBzXBOUqCM For a long time i thought this track is by ARR !! And it does sound like an ARR track as well !! Do listen !! Dil mera bole hello how are you ! M Sure many of us here will still think that this is by ARR !! :P Saying u again it is NOT by ARR !! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Rehman working on his own symphony - Please clarify
Hi all Please see the below interview of arr with indiaglitz.com on June 08 - 2005. ARR says i want to do my own symphony and begun my works. Can anyone close to him clarify the status of this project? What's your dream project? *I am keeping it a secret. I want to do a symphony. I have begun my work towards it. The symphony is an inspiration of a Sufi story. I want to name the symphony Conference of the Bird. Very soon I will begin my work towards it.* http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/interview/6365.html -- *Thx Rgds MANAF * * *
[arr] Album Revisit: Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na
Watching the promos of Jhoota Hi Sahi made go back to Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na once. Just listening to JTYJN after a long time. Beautiful album. Loved it back then and still love it. Every song gives an impression that it has been meticulously done, with lot of care. Just few random thoughts: 1. Tu Bole - Such a nice jazz, with original instruments. The beauty of live instruments is totally different. Loved the keyboards and the chords usage. 2. Nazrein Milaana - The tune is so unpredictable when it begins. The free style format. I love the tune when it goes Aankhon mein koyi basaa.. very celebrative! 3. Kabhi Kabhi Aditi - The nylon string guitar is impressive to everyone anyway. The simple tune is what that works. And that flute which comes in the end.. thats ARR stamp. 4. Kahi To - A nice ballad. Infact I sometimes find parallels to Bhoola Tujhe too (not just because the singer is same). A simple melody. If this song were in english, during 90s, it would have topped these MTV, Channel-V etc. 5. Jaane Tu Mera Kya Hai (Female) - Both the male and female versions are actually pathos only and treating them differently is challenging. I like the fact that arr treats this in a very edgy way, with lot synth tone, in a stylised way 6. Jaane Tu Mera Kya Hai (Male) - This one is given a poignant ballad feel, with little orchestral elements and the chorus effect. this is ARR saying Lets do the basic pathos. Nice string work, adds the effect to the ballad. If you notice, the album is full of 'simple' tunes that we can normally hum and lot of mix of orchestral and electronic work. I am now looking forward to Jhoota Hi Sahi (without expecting another JTYJN), just to assess the taste of Abbas Tyrewala. He did extract some good music for JTYJN and I hope it is not a fluke stroke. Atleast, the Cry song of JHS doesnt reflect so. Lets wait and watch! Regards Aakarsh
[arr] My Take on the CWG Theme...and all the BS!
Please find my take on this whole issue here: http://vijaynarain.blogspot.com/2010/09/cwg-theme-my-take-on-all-bs.html Posting my blog link as it'll get too verbose to paste here...
Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
You are a rare of the rarest gem for India and you have taken Indian music to international audience and everyone knows it.This is India, there is always be controversies and you know it. Totally with you ARR!!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:49 AM, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: Totally with you ARR!The CWG theme is great..Endhiran is spectacular...Semmozhi is epic...Gujurat Anthem is good...Komaram Puli had its gems...Raavanan was solid...and of course...Vinnai Thandi Varuvaya is your crowning glory!...looking forward to Jhoota Hai Sachi and the score for 127 Hours...keep up the amazing work...you are one of the greatest musicians in the history of the WORLD! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: By no means CWG theme song is mediocre or bad. A R Rahman sir, we love you and your music. We will always be with you - not just during rough times like these. Year 2010 has been tremendous so far... thanks for making our life so beautiful with your music. Cheers, From: RAJA N.S. rajan...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:45:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN We are always with you Rahman sir.. Regards N.S. Raja --- On Thu, 2/9/10, Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... wrote: From: Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 8:21 PM We are with you Rahman saab Regards, Srikanth Narisettynaga --- On Thu, 2/9/10, mb4zap® moinboss4...@... wrote: From: mb4zap® moinboss4...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 10:24 AM I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36eee@ wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation.
[arr] Re: CWG-COMMMENTS IN INDIAFM
Yeah me too read them and found absolutely hilarious. i would say just ignore them. maybe they are hardcore Himesh fans just happy to pull ARR down or maybe a bunch of new generation kids with Himesh kind of taste. /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, lawrencejeromeb lawrencejero...@... wrote: these below are some of the comments i came through in Indiafm. they are comparing arrahman with himesh what himesh i dont know whats happened with the music senses of the people. they just want to bash arrahman thats it. God is always with arrahman so whoever is saying that arrahmans music is gone are going to praise him after some time. guys whats happened to you all rehman has lost his touch... by Purusharth on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 06:15:08 PM after oscar rehman has been on cloud 9 n his music is not doing as gud as it used 2 be...anyways...once HR releases his international album 'At Da Edge'...he would be d most sort after composer from India in d international market... HR would have done justice by arjun on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 05:07:41 PM RAHMAN is an nice composer,but don't know what happened to him while composing for country,yes Himesh ji would have done justice to this song..already commonwealth games are flop,now its theme song is also flop. AR RAHMAN is good but not one of best! by karma on Wednesday 01st September 2010 , 04:34:21 PM Rahman was good and famous for his hit music until late 9ties, but after that a CHARTBUSTER, BACK-BACK hit music composer Himesh Reshammiya was born and no one in music industery was able to do anything to stop his non-stop chartbuster hit music rage and he continues to be the no1 hit musical rockstar today. Rahman's music doesn't have youth and universal appeal. Music of Rhaman is neither melodious nor rocking. So those who blindly say AR RAHMAN is best must do a reality check!
[arr] Danny Boyle on 127 Hours
MTV: In terms of the music, it's A.R. Rahman doing the score again after Slumdog. Can you speak a little about what he's done? Boyle: We've got a couple of songs, and the rest of the work is more guitar-based. Some of it is solo guitar, which felt appropriate given the nature of the story. Got a couple of wonderful songs. Free Blood (Never Hear Surf Music Again) at the beginning, which we used for the trailer. Music has always been a big part of a movie for me, and I hope we've done another one justice we've what we've used. Full Interview : http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647109/20100902/story.jhtml At the 81st Academy Awards in early 2008, Danny Boyle's Slumdog Millionaire took home eight awards, including Best Director, while Darren Aronofsky's The Wrestler lost both categories in which it was nominated. But that didn't stop Boyle from wanting to emulate Aronofsky's cinematic approach for his next project. Thus, 127 Hours. follows one central character, in much the same way that The Wrestler focused on Mickey Rourke's damaged grappler. Boyle's new film is based on the true story of an avid outdoorsman who becomes trapped under a boulder in the wildness and is forced to saw off his own arm to escape. James Franco plays the unfortunate hiker. The film is one that Boyle has wanted to make for years. Only after virtually sweeping the Oscars, and being inspired by Aronofsky's style, though, did he move forward with the project. As part of MTV News' Fall Movie Preview, Boyle called us to chat about how his career has changed since Slumdog, the challenges of making a film about a man who can't move, and why 127 Hours may not be the ideal date movie. MTV: How are you? Danny Boyle: Good. We're mixing 127 Hours at Pinewood, and we've been kicked out of the big theater by Harry Potter. We're next door in the little theater. MTV: I guess if you're going to be kicked out by anybody, they have a big thing going on. Boyle: They're not even here! Do you know what they do? It's a big bank holiday this weekend here in Britain, and we're working right through the weekend to get it ready, and what they do is they book the theater for months and nothing happens! It's like, Really? MTV: Well, it is great to talk to you. So, you had, you know, a little bit of success with Slumdog Millionaire. Coming off of that, why this one? Boyle: I'd always wanted to do it. The story has an instant tension that draws everyone's attention to it. So many people remember it vaguely. But it wasn't that. I wanted to make the film and I tried to get it going. Of course, it's a tough subject, but I had a way of doing it that wasn't what you think. It would be compelling and would occupy you completely as a viewer so that the whole barrier — it's just one guy stuck in one place — that wouldn't become an issue because you'd be with him. You would be him, in effect. That was always my take on it. Anyway, once Slumdog kicked off, [producer] Christian [Colson] and I thought, This is our chance to make this. There's no other moment in our careers when we'll get a chance to make something like this, which is really a tricky prospect for any studio or financier. So we worked on it, we prepared a script, and then we had to find an actor. That's the key to this. Beyond our vision of it, you have to have someone who's not only going to share the vision but actually going to carry it much more than any film like Slumdog or a thriller or a big love story or anything that has a plot or the dynamics changing between two people. It's just one guy. We got Franco. He's amazing in it. MTV: There are a couple ways to go off something like Slumdog. Either you go with the project you've been wanting to make, or I'm sure you were offered every project under the sun. Boyle: I don't think like that. It's such an amazing thing that happened that you have to take advantage in the right way. It's why we wanted to get [127 Hours] ready for Toronto, because that's where we started with Slumdog. We wanted to take back there a film that had been made in its shadow. It's wonderful to do that, because suddenly it's not an intimidating shadow, it's liberating because it's a success that's allowed you to make something you've always wanted to make and you believe but wouldn't get made otherwise. Even though people, before they see the film, might think it a peculiar choice, but the film is really accessible. Whether they can get people into [the theater], I don't know. If you want to take a girl on a Friday and say, What should we go and see? it's tough to say, It's a film about a guy who cuts his arm off. What do you think? But once you're in there, it's a big story for everyone. It's a very universal thing. MTV: What are the challenges for you as a filmmaker, keeping things dynamic, and the challenges for an audience? Do you imagine them feeling what Franco is feeling for the length of the movie? Boyle: I
Re: [arr] Time for the Fans to do the job
On 9/3/2010 12:07 AM India Time, _diya_ wrote: Sorry!! Big blunder in my previous post. I meant to say But on the other hand, if after multiple listens some of us honestly feel it isn't ARR quality, I really DON'T think we should pretend to like it and artificially promote it just because it's an ARR creation. Missed out the don't which altered the meaning completely. Should have read more carefully before posting. Sorry! You are again right. Some people indeed tend to create hype apart each and every song of ARR. Arey baba, why promote ARR's song here among his declared fans. We already are here because we like ARR's songs. So, one should not create hype here and should definitely promote ARR's music at other arena, even if ARR will not read posts there and might not write thanking you. I once recounted here how a friend of mine heard instrumental of Kisna and was blown away. That is one pomotion that I would love to take credit of and will always remember myself. That is the way I guess. say No to Hype. -- Rawat --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diyaganguly_d...@... wrote: Again, this is my personal opinion. Feel free to differ. From what I get from this forum, there are people who really like the song and there are others who don't feel it's that great. For all those who genuinely like it: by all means do voice your opinion and pledge support to the song via all possible channels. It makes perfect sense and is justified. But on the other hand, if after multiple listens some of us honestly feel it isn't ARR quality, I really think we should pretend to like it and artificially promote it just because it's an ARR creation. That would amount to lowering our expectations of him, which undermines his immeasurable genius. After all he himself has taught us to expect nothing but the best from him. I remember hearing him say in an interview to all his fans Appreciate ONLY good music, don't appreciate everything. He is too great a creative genius to be affected by what's going on. Occasional setbacks are inevitable in anyone's life and for someone like ARR, one setback isn't going to have any effect on his stature. I know he's being subjected to a lot of unjust criticism, but he'll only emerge stronger and better. He really is way above such things! If this song were composed by anyone else, it would not face such harsh criticism. Kind of unfair. But then we can't really compare ARR with anyone else. He is a class of his own and warrants extreme levels of expectations!
Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
Great ...do that soon On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote: Excellent initiative...Please go ahead... -- *From:* Anil Wadghule anildigi...@gmail.com *To:* arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, September 2, 2010 10:50:37 PM *Subject:* [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com Hi Guys, I love CWG theme by ARR. I am thinking to start a dedicated website on it. Can you suggest good domain name for it? Currently I have IloveCWGTheme.com in my mind? Please suggest any other good domain in your mind? -- Ani
[arr] Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds
Dear all http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Please read the article. The media doesnt know who is Rahman and What is Rahman's power. The biggest blunder in this article is VTV is a flop. Jayakrishnan
Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN
Hi rahman your recent compositions shows your experience. I mean that all songs are based on the story of the film (Ravanana, Puli, VTV, Endhiran ). CWG great, I cant able to stop listening…… M.KALIDASAN The Rahman Lover --- On Fri, 3/9/10, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 7:49 AM Totally with you ARR!The CWG theme is great..Endhiran is spectacular...Semmozhi is epic...Gujurat Anthem is good...Komaram Puli had its gems...Raavanan was solid...and of course...Vinnai Thandi Varuvaya is your crowning glory!...looking forward to Jhoota Hai Sachi and the score for 127 Hours...keep up the amazing work...you are one of the greatest musicians in the history of the WORLD! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: By no means CWG theme song is mediocre or bad. A R Rahman sir, we love you and your music. We will always be with you - not just during rough times like these. Year 2010 has been tremendous so far... thanks for making our life so beautiful with your music. Cheers, From: RAJA N.S. rajan...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:45:07 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN We are always with you Rahman sir.. Regards N.S. Raja --- On Thu, 2/9/10, Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... wrote: From: Srikanth Narisetty srikanth...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 8:21 PM We are with you Rahman saab Regards, Srikanth Narisettynaga --- On Thu, 2/9/10, mb4zap® moinboss4...@... wrote: From: mb4zap® moinboss4...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Re: WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 10:24 AM I loved the track! It is far better than the competition..! No doubt, WE ARE WITH YOU ARR! -Moin Ali --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36eee@ wrote: As A R Rahman asked media to project 'positive image' of Common Wealth Games.Then media turned against him and they are now portaying his negative image now.They just want some big newsif they don't find any then they will for anything/anyone any try to make news out of it.remember the mumbai blasts..how they indirectly helpled in guiding them.they just need some news and coming to politicians, they had planned it that they would make use of it by disliking the song song just to divert the attention of people from the ACTUAL WORK.ACTUAL EVENT..that REALLY MATTERS .and we as a fans are responsible for all these..the media is watching our group/forum..which is the core source to everything they are getting.we as a fans need to stop all this. A R Rahman needs our support more than ever this time..we need to support him.we need to hate media.If you are truly A R Rahman's ..support him by just replying to this messageYES WE ARE WITH YOU...RAHMAN. Hope you Are understanding what I am saying..and please stop sending negative messages Moderators we need your help please filter the negative messages. Just listen to the track 'The Power of Politics'a BGM from Iruvar/Iddaru..its awsome...this BGM perfectly fits the present situation. Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. Regards. --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM Hi all, Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a repetition :) And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there. Thanks! http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/ Diya
RE: [arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he ????
Hello Kishore, I am originally from India (Pondicherry - south India), I did all my studies there and left in 1992 to continue my higher studies in France and UK. I am now working in Paris, I miss India a lot... even if I come there for holidays. Best Regards, Serge. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: kishore.paray...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:11:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] ARR did not force anybody to approve the Theme, Did he Juz curious... Which part of India u belong to sir? Or is it that u have no relation with India ...u r a french national? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:34 AM, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@hotmail.com wrote: There is one thing that I don't understand, the officials and the politicians have initially approved the song, isn't it??? How come that once the release they criticize it ??? ARR didn't force anybody to approve this theme, did he ??? If I have well understood, an official commuty were in charge of approving the song??? Now if the song is not well received, why is it only ARR fault ??? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: catchg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:50:25 + Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take How do we know that the 5.5 cr figure is even true? It was reported once in the same 'I concoct things as I go' Indian media and everyone is treating it like the gospel truth? Sent via BlackBerry From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:44:59 +0530 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG track..heres my take for me, this whole CWG song thing shows the true colors of Indian politics and media. they don't mind making a big issue out of a trivial thing like the theme music.. but they can't even organize the event properly. it's as if they all were of waiting for an opportunity to bash rahman while both the opposition and the government has shown that they are nothing but idiots. I want to say a lot of things about all these things we read in the media.. but that will probably have 10 times more profanities than the Scarface movie. lol so, i am just accepting the fact that India only works this way. our government, media and politicians like to blame each other like they always do in the parliament. we are third world and with these kind of people in media and politics, we will stay that way forever. while I loved the CWG song.. i too think that the 5.5 cr was a bit too much to spend for a song and performance. they should probably have focused more on how to manage the event and bad press. i didn't mean that AR didn't deserve it. but, it's a lot of money for a country like India and common men will think that it was a rip off. we fans here don't think of it as a big issue as we love him. but it is still an issue. Plus, for an event like these people will except more glamor and obviously that is also the reason why people were put off by the song. that is the reason why everyone is now comparing it to Waka Waka. I have a lot more to say about this whole stinking politics. but this is not the forum for that. so, this here is my last post about CWG song. and hoping that this won't affect AR's reputation and respect that he truly deserves. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: if we approach things with pre-conceived notion, nothing can change the mindset. I truly agree with this. I don't think people were expecting a Waka Waka or a Maa Tujhe Saalam or even a Maro Maro from ARR. If yes, then all these ideas would have been expressed to him during composition process itself and not now, when the track has been released. The problem is that everything has become very political and competitive now. It's no longer about hosting CWG, it's about hosting a better CWG than Beijing's Olympics! Why Beijing's Olympics? Because it was a huge hit! If China can do it, then we can do better! When ARR was requested to compose the CWG theme, there wasn't any talks about comparison with any other themes whatsoever. But now that Waka Waka is a huge hit, all of a sudden, we want ARR to compose something better than Waka Waka. If Shakira can do it, why not ARR? Yes, Shakira could do it, because she didn't have the pressure of being constantly compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry. No ministers approved of her song and then turn around saying that they were disappointed with the same. People just enjoyed the song for what it is and it became a huge hit! In my humble opinion, we have just forgotten where our priorities lie. Hosting a CWG is not only a huge responsibility but it's also a great privilege. There is no need to compare ourselves with our counterparts and go around bragging that we'll do better than them. Instead, if we just concentrate on hosting a good games in the manner
[arr] Rahman's dud - as per IBNLIVE - disgusting media report - one more example...
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn I dont know what to say with this kind of un-researched article in a national leading news website... The author says Kadhal Desam, VTV, Raavan, Jeans was duds from Rahman except 1 or 2 songs... All the while I was thinking songs in these albums were on a league of their own... Part of the problem I think is: Some people want to bring down Rahman's name no matter how good his works are...simply because they have never heard ARR properly or their ego did not allow them to accept his success for some odd reason
[arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. PollWhy does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
[arr] Another absurd article..
There is a mad journalist who wrote an absurd article in ibnlive where VTV, Love Birds, Kadhal Desam as one of the top 10 Rahman duds!...duh. I dont know what this journo has been smoking. Media is made of such b...@#%tards these days heres the stupid article. Whoever was planning for ilovecwgtheme.com ...please go ahead...urgently - The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Worse, Rahman’s own claim that the song would be hotter than Shakira’s World Cup 2010 anthem 'Waka-Waka' has fallen flatter than some of his notes. While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on. Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbeats.com
[arr] Nonsense article at ibnlive.com
Have a look at their so called dud list: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3\ .html http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-\ 3.html This article is purely outrageous :(
Re: [arr] Headlines today channel bashing rahman like anything...
Very true. great saying by the way. /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@... wrote: In tamil there is a saying, aayiram kaigal maraithaalum, aadhavan maraivathillai which means, even though a thousand hands are spread, they can never hide the sun!!!...Our Boss is like a Sun for Indian music, so these media guys cant do anything!!!...They will start praising him as soon as he wins his next oscar!!!...Till then, we'll have to just enjoy their discussions:D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf manafcp@ wrote: Leave them. Take it as silly.. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:13 AM, live for arr Live liveforarr@wrote: yesterday night at 9.30 there was a show for this cwg theme song. they called 2-3 ppl and asked them to talk about this song. They were just spoiling rhaman's name like anything. Singer sreenivas spoke highly of the song, and he was not allowed to speak more than 30 sec and they cut his call. it was really disturbing to see the programme. Didnt have a good sleep after that -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
[arr] Newark, NJ tickets?
Did anyone here get the Newark, NJ show tickets for 23rd Sept? Most of the online ticket sites are showing only few seats that too in the sides..wondering if there is any local store selling them so that we can choose better seating. Regards Raghu
[arr] Re: Cry.. Cry...
I am trying a rough translation. == Male: (Javed Ali) Hindi:Cry Cry itna cry karte hain kaiko Eng: Cry is english Cry so, its like asking why do they cry so much Hindi: itna darte hain kaiko, pal pal marte kai ko Eng: why do they fear so much, why do they die every moment Hindi: why why aisa why waisa kyoun hota..youn hota toh kya hota Eng: why does it happen every time that..if it had happen like this (otherway) what would have happened Hindi: jo hota hain woh hota Eng:whatever it had to happen will happen Hindi: Fly Fly baby fly, dekhein woh udke, Eng: fly baby fly and should see by flying Hindi: dekhe baadal se judke, dekhein phir na mud mud ke Eng:should see (the world) being in the clouds and then they would never look back. Hindi: rote kaiko hum, hey rote kaiko hum, Eng:why do we cry hey why do we cry Hindi: hona hain jo ho sad hote kaiko hum, raaton ko na sote kaiko hum.. Eng:whatever sad had to happen would happen.. So why do we not sleep in the night (or why are we awake during nights?) Female (Shreya) Hindi: baatein, tere teekh lagte hain Eng:Feel your words are correct Hindi: raatein kyoun hamare jagte hain Eng: why are we awake during nights Hindi: halaatein, hum kyoun na maane beete baaton ko Eng:why dont we forget the past (sad things, maybe) Hindi: bhooloun main toh mujhko laga na tum eik chanta chub jayega toh kheench lena kaanta Eng:if I forget this then you can slap me, if there's a thorn then just pluck it out Male: no no no no no Eng: no no no Female:Hindi: poochoun main jo tujhse kabhi ke kyoun kyoun daanta dena na phir se eik aur chaata Eng: And if I question why you scold me then you can slap me again. male:Hindi: kabhi nahin .. kabhinahin Eng: some times No.. never (Hopeful that this is how its been told) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Neevan vyrus_...@... wrote: Guys pls translate the lyrics to english for the non-hindi speaking fans as well thx From: Roshan c.pix...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2010 21:15:52 Subject: Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry... lol.. it was as if telling the media not to whine! On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote: Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib kartey kaiku ..!!! Lol what a timing. From: Ram R ramkumar.ramachand...@...; To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com; Subject: [arr] Cry.. Cry... Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 4:16:55 AM http://www.facebook.com/JhoothaHiSahi?v=wallstory_fbid=147396071961631#!/video/video.php?v=1591924164326comments Simple but catchy song! Jhoota hi sahi ! -- Regards, Ram -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
The truth is nobody is scared of posting. Every person is writing whatever he wishes to say or that he has in his mind. Its just taking shelters by saying feeling afraid to post and creating a sensitive drama. I never seen anybody saying such words even limiting the posts. Also whats wrong in being critic to a post, why cant somebody consider that as a discussion. If criticizing AR's music is to be considered as opinion then such post is also same like AR's music. So, the writer must himself welcome such critic to his post as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: We are getting too sensitive here. Thats precisely making people feel scared too post. Listened to something. If it pleases your ears enjoy. Share what you liked. If somebody disagrees, try understanding why? If you don't agree leave them in peace. why should we have a firewall, and filter words like 'mediocre', 'Average', 'bad'? Anyways, getting sensitive and upset about something is also a personal choice. Just that my choice happens to be different. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravisdev@ wrote: I dont think there can be anything painful than a fan himself calls AR's work as mediocre. If a fan can use such a term its no surprise that those who aren't AR fans or those who don't like him say anything negative about AR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] Cry.. Cry...
No, not the same tune. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VK Murthy vkmj...@... wrote: Dear AJ I heard the song . Yes catchy cool fresh everything . But it is the same tune as Kaadhal Anukkal Udambil Ethanai ? ~ VKM On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:38 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: Love what I hear! Catchy, cool, fresh, sprightly, effervescent! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Rivjot rivjot@ wrote: hehe yeah! this song came at just about the right time lol Loved the promo..lyrics are Aditi Aditi type, asking to stay positive in life. Looking forward to hear the soundtrack. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats wiredbeats@ wrote: Good reply for CWG officials. Next line should be crib crib itna crib kartey kaiku ..!!! Lol what a timing.
Re: [arr] ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician''
Yeah glad to see some sensible comments. and yes it is surprising to read what Anu said. I see some change in his attitude. earlier too (I don't remember when, maybe on his Oscar wins) he said some very positive things about ARR. /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: there are some sensible comments here. and I was most surprised about Anu Malik's comment. he sounds so mature and sensible here unlike what i used to read in the 90s. well, at least there is a bunch of people who understand all these On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: ''It is bad for the reputation of any musician'' ibnlive.com http://ibnlive.in.com/agency/ibnlive.com.html Posted on *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:00* | Updated *Sep 01, 2010 at 15:56* [image: Email]http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html [image: Print]http://ibnlive.in.com/printpage.php?id=130081section_id=8 66Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fibnlive.in.com%2Fnews%2Fit-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician%2F130081-8-75.htmlt=%27%27It%20is%20bad%20for%20the%20reputation%20of%20any%20musician%27%27%20-%20Movies%20News%20-%20News%20-%20ibnlivesrc=sp 1 The industry is abuzz with the recent news that the *Commonwealth Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html ** officials now want A R Rahman's Rs 5 crore theme track *Swagatham* to be 'recomposed'. Fellow musicians talk to IBNLive about their reactions to the rumours... Singer Shaan feels that Rahman as a composer has his own beliefs about his compositions. Shaan says, Rahman generally takes a brief and takes it ahead from there. What I would like to say is that the CWG officials should work on their own shortcomings and pull their act together. He adds, We are so scared of getting humiliated in front of the whole world with the CWG. Don't waste time finding faults in Rahman. Kavita *Krishnamurthy*http://connect.in.com/krishnamurthy/profile-1900597.html ** has been busy traveling and admits she hasn't had the time to hear Rahman's composition. However, she points out, For any composer, for example if my husband has been commissioned to compose a song...from the beginning to the end, the organizers are always involved. While the entire song is taking shape, they (organizers) are involved. If there are certain changes to be made, the composer should have been alerted from step one. She adds emphatically, It is bad for the reputation of any musician. It is very hurting. [image: A R Rahman at an event] Music director *Anu Malik*http://connect.in.com/anu-malik/profile-24443.html ** has not heard *Swagatham* either. He, however, explains, I have not heard the song but the broader thing is Rahman is a gifted composer. It all depends on what brief had been given to him. For the kind of money that has been paid (reportedly 5 crore), it is a huge amount. I am sure if Rahman has composed the theme track, it must be very good. But if something takes about four, five or six months, was the brief given in the first place OK? The net reaction to the track has not been that good. At the end of the day, Indians are very emotional towards their music. Music director Bappi Lahiri admits he has not heard the song. He says, I have not heard the song yet and therefore would not like to comment on the matter. By Sujata Chakrabarti http://ibnlive.in.com/news/it-is-bad-for-the-reputation-of-any-musician/130081-8-75.html -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
Thanks for your reply! Disagreements are of course welcome! About the statement: That âfairly goodâ is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only masterpieces that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated with his name! It is my interpretation of all the criticism of his music. Pressure yes, unfair too, but remember Rahman has lived upto these expectations time and again barring very few exceptions. If you constantly live upto sky high expectations, people will continue to expect the impossible from you :) I view high expectations as a mark of respect and trust. If you genuinely like the CWG song, great! To be frank I am not too concerned with the media bashing and stuff, ARR is too above all this for me! What concerns me is that I and many other music listeners feel it's missing the ARR magic. Good song, but not divine! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: Diya - Nicely written. But, I feel that we put undue pressure on the maestro with the below statement. That âfairly goodâ is unacceptable from someone like ARR. Only masterpieces that transcend human imagination deserve to be associated with his name! I am one of those who like CWG theme song... didn't have to force myself to like it. Listened few times on my iPod and bingo! Few more points * In one of the news conferences - ARR requested Media to write all the good work that went into organizing CWG. They didn't take it well that minute and I see that current media bashing is a result of it. * To me, the song actually starts after the guitar - I liked the way both guitar and sitar are blended. The only problem to me is the pace and missing layers. As you rightly pointed out, it looks like he was asked to slow down remove noisy layers Cheers, From: diya ganguly_d...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 6:25:18 PM Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song Hi all, Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a repetition :) And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there. Thanks! http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/ Diya
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such
Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
Wonderful initiative! Please do it ASAP. --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Ravi Alagappan acer...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ravi Alagappan acer...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 11:54 AM Great ...do that soon On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Excellent initiative...Please go ahead... From: Anil Wadghule anildigi...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:50:37 PM Subject: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com Hi Guys, I love CWG theme by ARR. I am thinking to start a dedicated website on it. Can you suggest good domain name for it? Currently I have IloveCWGTheme.com in my mind? Please suggest any other good domain in your mind? -- Ani
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan go...@gopal.me wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of
[arr] Re: Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds
Wow, Kadhal Desam and Jeans are duds!! Good early morning comedy! You can't argue with such words of wisdom. They defy sense and logic! if they comment on songs they haven't bothered to listen to who can explain things to them? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jayan jayan...@... wrote: Dear all http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Please read the article. The media doesnt know who is Rahman and What is Rahman's power. The biggest blunder in this article is VTV is a flop. Jayakrishnan
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan go...@... wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman's Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in `Jack and Jill' and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and `Dolna Dolna' is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, `Ajooba' sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan's lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
This is the limit! what on earth is this One bad review and these websites comes up with a Top 10 duds... just to make their website even more popular? and the worse is that VTV is a flop? and Jeans? and Kadhal Dhesam?? My god... my head is spinning. Guys, please take the appropriate action towards this article... this is the limit! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman's Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in `Jack and Jill' and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and `Dolna Dolna' is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, `Ajooba' sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan's lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as Mona Lisa composed by Rahman that faded with the film.
[arr] Re: Nonsense article at ibnlive.com
They call VTV a dud!!Oh my godAnd only Mustafa fares well in KD???, then wat was Thendrale, ennai kaanavillaye and Oh Vennila doing???.Well I feel that the politicians successfully diverted the news towards Rahman sir. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Nidhin nidh...@... wrote: Have a look at their so called dud list: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3\ .html http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-\ 3.html This article is purely outrageous :(
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
AJ, I was thinking the same. But we are totally helpless in this regard. Wish we had something which can control media and make them accountable for the news they report. Right now, they are the strongest and no one can do anything. :( From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 6:04:28 PM Subject: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media? Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds?
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we can't do much here, AJ. Media works this way. I said it in a previous mail. and it is becoming true. I hate it when i am right :( it's so sad to see hit albums listed as duds. i wonder whatever happened to the real journalism. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:24 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote: AJ, I was thinking the same. But we are totally helpless in this regard. Wish we had something which can control media and make them accountable for the news they report. Right now, they are the strongest and no one can do anything. :( -- *From:* AJ purev...@yahoo.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, September 3, 2010 6:04:28 PM *Subject:* [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media? Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
Thanks Gayathri. I definitely appreciate different views and would be happy to know your opinion on this as well. Thanks again. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. Regards. --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya ganguly_d...@... wrote: From: diya ganguly_d...@... Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM Â Hi all, Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a repetition :) And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there. Thanks! http://diyaiit.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/the-cwg-theme-song-and-the-upheaval-surrounding-it/ Diya
Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com
SuperWe fans should do somethingPlease take some initiative!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RAMESH b.j KRISHNAN trichyman2...@... wrote: Wonderful initiative! Please do it ASAP. --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Ravi Alagappan acer...@... wrote: From: Ravi Alagappan acer...@... Subject: Re: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 September, 2010, 11:54 AM  Great ...do that soon On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote:  Excellent initiative...Please go ahead... From: Anil Wadghule anildigi...@... To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:50:37 PM Subject: [arr] IloveCWGTheme.com  Hi Guys, I love CWG theme by ARR. I am thinking to start a dedicated website on it. Can you suggest good domain name for it? Currently I have IloveCWGTheme.com in my mind? Please suggest any other good domain in your mind? -- Ani
[arr] Re: Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Just a word from Rahul Gandhi or Sonia Gandhi that they liked the song the whole Indian press media will change, any bet? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahmanâs anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away â even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. PollWhy does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, itâs worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed âMozart of Madrasâ of repeating the legendary success of âRojaâ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. âIâve heard better from Rahman,â was the common sentiment on the streets when âJai Hoâ received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahmanâs top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years â songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own âWaka Wakaâ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a âcacophonyâ while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like âThok de killiâ that lack the hummability of âBehne deâ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahmanâs Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in âJack and Jillâ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and âDolna Dolnaâ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, âAjoobaâ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharanâs lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as âMona Lisaâ composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': âNo Problemâ â perhaps the only song that has outstayed the filmâs shelf life â is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Gopal and everyone else, I can't believe what I just read. Who in the name of God allows these idiots to post and submit? These guys are just pulling stuff out of their snip and making it appear true. Sad is the fact that some people actually believe that whatever the media writes is true. I feel sick! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan gopal@ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman's Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in `Jack and Jill' and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Please spread this article as much as possible...This article should make people realize why CWG song for no reason is targeted and how media is going overboard on this.. From: dinesh.theboss dinesh.sca...@hotmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 5:50:08 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live This is the limit! what on earth is this One bad review and these websites comes up with a Top 10 duds... just to make their website even more popular? and the worse is that VTV is a flop? and Jeans? and Kadhal Dhesam?? My god... my head is spinning. Guys, please take the appropriate action towards this article... this is the limit! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman's Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in `Jack and Jill' and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and `Dolna Dolna' is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, `Ajooba' sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Typical like a journalist, this guy from IBN or whosoever channel is only concentrating on his channel's TRP ratings. They very well know the brand value of ARR and are using Rahman as a tool to make controversial comments to sell their channel programmes. Their frenzy was portrayed in PEEPLI (LIVE) movie recently and somehow after seeing that movie, one tends to pity the media persons. They will record someone dying and will take pride in showing it as breaking news ... IBN channel is genuinely the worst channel who takes pride in showing lousy information as news.. So, Ignore these stupid commentors in TV / newsprint. They don't know the real AR Rahman which a true Rahman fan knows so why worry ? Jai HO ! Dinesh Vaidya The Wandering souls Rahmania Pune --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan go...@... wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles.
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
ROFLL Gops..thats the best way to describe it...LOLAwesome.. From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 5:33:02 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan go...@gopal.me wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn n Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had
[arr] My take on the CWG theme song
I personally liked the CWG theme song. I’ve heard it about 3-4 times so far. I did not compare it with ‘Waka Waka’ or any other theme song that I have heard earlier. This song is pretty good and you will start liking it when you don’t listen with pre-conceived notions. And yes, I did not compare this song with Rahman’s 90s albums or his recent film songs as I feel that is a pointless exercise.:-) -
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
it seems that they are on a mission to bring down rahman. every damn channel in this country is now running the Rahman-Is-A-Dud show. the IBN article was the height of all this nonsense. listing a top 10 dud with hit albums? people actually have loved those albums. they perfectly knew that those albums were hit. it was written with the intend to humiliate rahman as he is getting more success internationally. i guess the best we can do is hope that this phase also will pass. I also wish that rahman take back that song.. they don't deserve talents like Rahman. they would be better off with the other morons that joined in criticizing rahman. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: lol.. all of the album mentioned there are my favorites 1947 earth is a dud ? they must be so effing retarded to call that a dud. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
LOL You got to be KIDDING me! Why can't these media DUDS stop picking uselessly and use their power and resources to do something better for the country. Ridiculous... From: $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 3:29:16 AM Subject: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. PollWhy does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
[arr] ARR on Blind pianist !!
A.R. Rahman http://www.facebook.com/arrahman Yesterday morning was one of the best that i had ever had this year. I was invited for a piano recital by students of Dr Chatterjee who teaches the piano at KMMC (he follows the Russian conservatory method ). Most of the students had started learning to play the piano from scratch just months ago and were playing like they had played it all their lives. But the highlight of the concert was a visually challenged student who started just 4 months ago. He played like a pro and was stunningand was better than all of the others .. God Bless! A R R http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=441084222992 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] ARR on Blind pianist !!
wow! just Wow! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:26 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: A.R. Rahman http://www.facebook.com/arrahman Yesterday morning was one of the best that i had ever had this year. I was invited for a piano recital by students of Dr Chatterjee who teaches the piano at KMMC (he follows the Russian conservatory method ). Most of the students had started learning to play the piano from scratch just months ago and were playing like they had played it all their lives. But the highlight of the concert was a visually challenged student who started just 4 months ago. He played like a pro and was stunningand was better than all of the others .. God Bless! A R R http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=441084222992 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Nonsense article at ibnlive.com
ROFL! Wonderful! Jeans (though it's hindi), Mr. Romeo, Kadhal Desam, VTV?? Why didn't they include Minsara Kanavu, , Indian, Roja or at least Dil Se? On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Nidhin nidh...@yahoo.com wrote: Have a look at their so called dud list: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html This article is purely outrageous :( -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr] Re: Top 5 unconventional songs from ARR
to add to the list - Rasathi (Thiruda Thiruda) - Kala kala (Rhythm) On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Kali Dasan kalidasan_arr_...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Ayyo pathikichu (Rythm) M.KALIDASAN The Rahman Lover --- On *Wed, 1/9/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Top 5 unconventional songs from ARR To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 5:01 AM In my list masti ki patshaala doesnt qualify as unconcventional. But Oru koodai sunlight(sivaji), Dil Gira Daftan(D6) does. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comhttp://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: Friends...ARR has created so many unconventional songs to great success and I'm posting a short list of unconventional songs from ARR that I enjoyed recently: You will understand what I mean by unconventional if you hear 'em!!! 1)Strayberry Penne 2)Aaromale 3)Thee Thee 4)Sowkiyama 5)Manmadha Vasam 6)Theekuruviyil 7)Pudhiya Manidha 8)Pettai Rap 9)O Saya 10)Masti Ki Paathshala Only our boss can manage such diverse soundscapes (all coming from 1 man ) Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.comhttp://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.comhttp://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoohttp://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
RE: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
Hello Diya, it was nice to read your article, but there is one thing on which I don't agree. According to you, people who like this theme are ARR fans who like whatever music he composes, am I right? (even if I am wrong please continue your reading) I am a huge fan of ARR following his music since the beginning (Roja), whether it is now or in the 90s, I never liked every songs ARR had composed. This does not mean that the songs were not good, maybe somebody else liked it very much, it was only the fact that it was not my taste. So please don't underestimate ARR fans concluding that they likes everything he composes blindly just because they are mad fans. For example, I did not like Rukumani song from Roja, I did not like most of Kizhakku Chimayilae movie songs, Pettai Rap from Kadhalan was not my favorite as well, I did not like Mastam song from Yuvraaj, and many others... I never said that these songs were good. When somebody ask me who composed it? it is so bad!, It was uneasy for me to answer, that's all. Having said this, for me ARR remains the best musician in India in his domain (I like all kind of music except Rap style, you can not compare ARR with Zakir Hussain, L.Subramaniam, etc... ARR can not play like them and they can not compose like ARR) but in the cinefield area he is the Number 1. If this theme was used in a movie, maybe people would have said that it is good, but people say that the theme is not good in front of what it should have been according to their own expectation, their own conception of a theme that should represent India. Maybe they wanted something as usual with lots of noise as the Shakira one...Easy to do ! But, according to me, ARR vision for India were surely different, India being the country with lots of history, culture, respect and passion. A country where even today people respect the elders (respect the parents, the teachers, the Gods), a country which has many beliefs and values which is not the case in other countries. Did people expect a theme song with a indian woman dancing like shakira ? Remember, all songs or theme that ARR has composed for the Nation has always been deep and slow with lots of emotions (Taj Mahal promotional theme one love, Yeh Jo Desh song from Swades, except Vande Mataram). For example, none other instrument in the world can give you the touching feeling as the one of the Sitar sound. This sound can give you tears, it is really full of sentiments, even foreigners can connect with it. Sitar sound is the one which represent India to its best, did people expect a Ravi Shankar style music as a CWG Anthem, no I don't thing so. What about Yeh Jo Desh Hai Tera song from Swades which was a big hit, it is even slower comparing to the actual theme to represent the Games. Yes it is a very though challenge to compose one music that represent India, it is very easy to compose a song like the Shakira's one, but India has so many diversity that it is completely impossible. Taking into account all this, ARR Theme is the more appropriate one has it starts slowly which reflects the emotional part of Indians (every Indian is sensible, very sensible, indian culture is based on sensibilities and ARR is very sensible and emotional when it regards India) and then continue higher and higher progressively to end with Banghra sound fulfilling in this way the required energy representing the Games. I love the Theme, because it has a correct balance between every Indian actual values that are emotions, expectations, development (which recall history from sadness to joy), respect, belief, proudness and the wishes of success and establishment which is India's main force today. It is a very intelligent theme, each sound gives me so many feel. Sorry for my long comment, I could not stop when I write about India and ARR. Take care. Serge BELIER To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: gayathri_c...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 01:02:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song It was a wonderful article Diya. Though I did not agree with some of your points, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading the same. Left a comment on your blog too. Hope to hear a lot more from you in the near future. Regards. --- On Thu, 9/2/10, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 6:25 PM Hi all, Here's a post I wrote about compiling all that I have to say about this entire CWG issue. It includes some of the things I have already written in the mails, so if you have read them, feel free to ignore this post, it might be a repetition :) And it's strictly a personal opinion, so I know some of you will disagree. That is totally fine. If you read and have anything to say, do leave a comment there. Thanks!
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
Precisely! Regards Aakarsh --- On Fri, 9/3/10, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 6:31 PM Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Sometimes, looking stupid might attract. I think that is the whole concept of this article. It has always been some kind of a marketing strategy to tingle the emotions of a huge following fan base, so the ripple effect would be more and more, giving the site its needed traffic glory. This time nobody wants to lose the opportunity of making AR the scapegoat. Every single blog/wesbite are making use of it bigtime, like hyenas tearing apart the soul and blood of a creation. Good for them, they have reasonable achieved what they were aiming for. The inention is to be become popular by making someone super popular, unpopular. The very system that the politicians media, have always followed. Now topping it all, some of the fellow Industry personalities who always have craved for success like AR, have followed path. It seems to me like a long standing Quest to bring down the BEST. Let these LOSERS be happy about it (its after all one in a lifetime opportunity for them lol), for they never had a chance to show prominence through sense. We all know it could only come through Non-Sense :). Jai Ho !!! Swamy (aka Kitcha) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman's
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
One of the most cheapest article i ve ever read! Do they even know what these so called duds made an impact back then when these all released? I mean, how on earth can they even publish such crap without collecting proper information? My blood boils so hot to see the list here...! The writer really needs some sanity test to be done! --- On Fri, 9/3/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 12:32 PM Gopal and everyone else, I can't believe what I just read. Who in the name of God allows these idiots to post and submit? These guys are just pulling stuff out of their snip and making it appear true. Sad is the fact that some people actually believe that whatever the media writes is true. I feel sick! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan gopal@ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
+1000. Agreed. Reporters don't necessarily write the facts all the times and even they know about that. Doing anything to stop them would be to waking up someone who is pretending to be asleep. Every celebrity goes through this cycle but fortunately, of course it's terrible that it happened, in ARR's case it has taken more than 15 years and am sure ARR has become too matured and focused to handle / ignore this issue. However, I am afraid that ARR will become little sensitive while composing music in the future or anxious while releasing his product and that it will affect the quality to an extent. Or, who knows, it could happen other way. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
http://reticentexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-we-need-to-defend-r-rahman.html
[arr] Re: ARR on Blind pianist !!
wow. INSPIRING. I've never seen AR posting this big a statement in facebook, which clearly explains the amount of joy he would have had watching/hearing the blind pianist play. It would have come as the biggest relief after hearing those ignorant critics/media talking about Music... He might be visually challenged but I think he visually challenged Rahman and the fellow musicians too :). Gods creation is always a mystery and when I see such genius talents, it strengthens my thoughts...I'm sure the pianist will soon play for AR we all can hear some masterpieces coming up soon... Life is all about Live and Let Others Live. AR has always followed this path and if everyone of us can take that route, I'm sure we all can live in a beautiful world like PANDORA that James Cameroon created. The world will end up having wonderful AVATAR's. Jai Ho !!! Swamy (aka Kitcha) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: A.R. Rahman http://www.facebook.com/arrahman Yesterday morning was one of the best that i had ever had this year. I was invited for a piano recital by students of Dr Chatterjee who teaches the piano at KMMC (he follows the Russian conservatory method ). Most of the students had started learning to play the piano from scratch just months ago and were playing like they had played it all their lives. But the highlight of the concert was a visually challenged student who started just 4 months ago. He played like a pro and was stunningand was better than all of the others .. God Bless! A R R http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=441084222992 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Re: Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
This article is good for laugh haha --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahmanâs anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away â even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. PollWhy does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, itâs worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed âMozart of Madrasâ of repeating the legendary success of âRojaâ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. âIâve heard better from Rahman,â was the common sentiment on the streets when âJai Hoâ received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahmanâs top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years â songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own âWaka Wakaâ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a âcacophonyâ while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like âThok de killiâ that lack the hummability of âBehne deâ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahmanâs Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in âJack and Jillâ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and âDolna Dolnaâ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, âAjoobaâ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharanâs lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as âMona Lisaâ composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': âNo Problemâ â perhaps the only song that has outstayed the filmâs shelf life â is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
Re: [arr] ARR on Blind pianist !!
Guys pls kindly avoid using the term blind, use visually challenged From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 3 September 2010 22:12:35 Subject: Re: [arr] ARR on Blind pianist !! wow! just Wow! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:26 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: A.R. Rahman Yesterday morning was one of the best that i had ever had this year. I was invited for a piano recital by students of Dr Chatterjee who teaches the piano at KMMC (he follows the Russian conservatory method ). Most of the students had started learning to play the piano from scratch just months ago and were playing like they had played it all their lives. But the highlight of the concert was a visually challenged student who started just 4 months ago. He played like a pro and was stunningand was better than all of the others .. God Bless! A R R http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=441084222992 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
These people better be ignored. The media in this country is a shame. I have always felt that, this is just another instance where their ugly face is revealed. They ridicule themselves by calling VTV and Jeans as duds! AR will probably be not bothered about all the media circus - he will take it in the same way he has handled all praises - Ella pugazhum / thootralum iraivanukke. The same media that questioned sachin's greatness and asked for him to be dropped, sang his praise for days together when he proved his worth to them again. It's not going to take them much time to start singing Rahman's praise again. __ Cheers, Srini On 03-Sep-2010, at 7:27 PM, Aakarsh aakarsh...@yahoo.com wrote: Precisely! Regards Aakarsh --- On Fri, 9/3/10, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 6:31 PM Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] My blogpost on the CWG theme song
Pasting my reply here for those who have not visited my blog. Hi Serge, What an unnecessary apology I want to thank you for caring enough to write such a long comment ! About your question: According to you, people who like this theme are ARR fans who like whatever music he composes, am I right? No!! That's not what I meant. If you genuinely like it, then that's it. No issues! But for people who don't genuinely like it, there's no need to force ourselves to support it all costs just because it's a Rahman composition! As for me, it is because Rahman has set the bar so, so high that I can't appreciate this song enough. Otherwise it's perfectly fine. If I hadn't previously been exposed to gems like Roja, Sangamam, Indhira, Vande Mataram and so many others, I would have liked this song much more! That's what I meant to say. Personally I don't care about comparisons with Shakira and others. It's living upto Rahman's own super high standard that I am concerned with. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, s03g373 s03g373 s03g...@... wrote: Hello Diya, it was nice to read your article, but there is one thing on which I don't agree. According to you, people who like this theme are ARR fans who like whatever music he composes, am I right? (even if I am wrong please continue your reading) I am a huge fan of ARR following his music since the beginning (Roja), whether it is now or in the 90s, I never liked every songs ARR had composed. This does not mean that the songs were not good, maybe somebody else liked it very much, it was only the fact that it was not my taste. So please don't underestimate ARR fans concluding that they likes everything he composes blindly just because they are mad fans. For example, I did not like Rukumani song from Roja, I did not like most of Kizhakku Chimayilae movie songs, Pettai Rap from Kadhalan was not my favorite as well, I did not like Mastam song from Yuvraaj, and many others... I never said that these songs were good. When somebody ask me who composed it? it is so bad!, It was uneasy for me to answer, that's all. Having said this, for me ARR remains the best musician in India in his domain (I like all kind of music except Rap style, you can not compare ARR with Zakir Hussain, L.Subramaniam, etc... ARR can not play like them and they can not compose like ARR) but in the cinefield area he is the Number 1. If this theme was used in a movie, maybe people would have said that it is good, but people say that the theme is not good in front of what it should have been according to their own expectation, their own conception of a theme that should represent India. Maybe they wanted something as usual with lots of noise as the Shakira one...Easy to do ! But, according to me, ARR vision for India were surely different, India being the country with lots of history, culture, respect and passion. A country where even today people respect the elders (respect the parents, the teachers, the Gods), a country which has many beliefs and values which is not the case in other countries. Did people expect a theme song with a indian woman dancing like shakira ? Remember, all songs or theme that ARR has composed for the Nation has always been deep and slow with lots of emotions (Taj Mahal promotional theme one love, Yeh Jo Desh song from Swades, except Vande Mataram). For example, none other instrument in the world can give you the touching feeling as the one of the Sitar sound. This sound can give you tears, it is really full of sentiments, even foreigners can connect with it. Sitar sound is the one which represent India to its best, did people expect a Ravi Shankar style music as a CWG Anthem, no I don't thing so. What about Yeh Jo Desh Hai Tera song from Swades which was a big hit, it is even slower comparing to the actual theme to represent the Games. Yes it is a very though challenge to compose one music that represent India, it is very easy to compose a song like the Shakira's one, but India has so many diversity that it is completely impossible. Taking into account all this, ARR Theme is the more appropriate one has it starts slowly which reflects the emotional part of Indians (every Indian is sensible, very sensible, indian culture is based on sensibilities and ARR is very sensible and emotional when it regards India) and then continue higher and higher progressively to end with Banghra sound fulfilling in this way the required energy representing the Games. I love the Theme, because it has a correct balance between every Indian actual values that are emotions, expectations, development (which recall history from sadness to joy), respect, belief, proudness and the wishes of success and establishment which is India's main force today. It is a very intelligent theme, each sound gives me so many feel. Sorry for my long
[arr] Sukhwinder joins in now!!!
Another one takes adv of this situation... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
utter nonsense. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:29 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.comwrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com http://ibnlive.in.com/agency/ibnlive.com.html Posted on *Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24* | Updated *Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52* The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the *Commonwealth Games* http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html**, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll*Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you?* Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘*Waka Waka*http://connect.in.com/waka-waka/profile-1944169.html **’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the *Commonwealth Games*http://connect.in.com/commonwealth-games/profile-543083.html ** anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This *Prabhu Deva*http://connect.in.com/prabhu-deva/profile-224569.html ** starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
[arr] CWG lyricist fights criticism, says not reworking song
http://in.movies.yahoo.com/news-detail/99129/CWG-lyricist-fights-criticism-says-reworking-song.html If people wants it to be like Waka Waka, they should first see whether the CWG is as popular as FIFA WC..And wonder why everyone is worried about the price tag!!...ARR certainly deserves every penny of it!...Another funny part in the above news is, some wants it to be like Waka Waka and some say, it has raps and hence not indian in soul!!!...Hey you bashers(or a different word???...;-)...), first decide among yourself on what criteria you wanna blame ARR sir...We are ready to enjoy:D
Re: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
liked ur facts on banyan etc. nice. media sucks. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, myown_niche myown_ni...@yahoo.co.in wrote: http://reticentexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-we-need-to-defend-r-rahman.html
[arr] Re: Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
Excellent article. Great looking facts. Of course, I've known all those fatcs but looking at it again makes me think if AR is actually human? Who in this world has got that many achievements still leads a clean simple life. I'm always amazed at this quality of AR. Jai Ho !!! Swamy (aka Kitcha) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, myown_niche myown_ni...@... wrote: http://reticentexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-we-need-to-defend-r-rahman.html
[arr] CWG video
wheres CWG video to be picturized by bharat bala? any video when will be released? it will add a different dimension to the well rendered CWG song.
[arr] Disappointed with Sukhwinder Singh's interview!
Guys, Have a look at this article from Times of India 'Rahman's become overconfident' http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-ov\ erconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-o\ verconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms by Sukhwinder Singh. I think that it is not appropriate for Sukhwinder to give such an interview about Rahman. Off late, Sukhi has been a little to outspoken about Rahman and I don't understand what delight he gets in lashing Rahman in such a diplomatic way. I am disappointed!!!
Re: [arr] ARR sir's latest FB post
scintillating! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Elanchezhian elan_rahman_ka...@yahoo.inwrote: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1403298439# !/video/video.php?v=441084222992comments Awsum vdo!
[arr] Our politicians, I think, are trying to divert our attention to the CWG theme song
Rahman’s songs are known to grow on you, so it’s too early to dismiss it off. Our politicians, I think, are trying to divert our attention to the CWG theme song from the real problem existing there —the stadium and corruption.” *Ashok Pandit, Filmmaker * http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_no-rah-rahs-for-ar-rahman-this-time_1432888 -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr] Video: Congresswoman Sheila Jackson talks about AR Rahman
great words by congresswomen. absolutely! give a single source in the media that has even hinted about this anywhere. unfair to the core. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sriram S srirams_pa...@yahoo.co.in wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hghqiviSaw0
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Yes AJ, really feel sick... If this mentality continues, India is digging itself to be buried. Nobody would peacefully here. Shame on you reporters !!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:32 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Gopal and everyone else, I can't believe what I just read. Who in the name of God allows these idiots to post and submit? These guys are just pulling stuff out of their snip and making it appear true. Sad is the fact that some people actually believe that whatever the media writes is true. I feel sick! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan gopal@ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like `Thok de killi' that lack the hummability of `Behne de' or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company.
Re: [arr] Disappointed with Sukhwinder Singh's interview!
he's just jumping on the opportunity. he did that at the time of oscars as well. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:42 PM, amrish_deep amrish_d...@yahoo.com wrote: Guys, Have a look at this article from Times of India *'Rahman's become overconfident' * http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cmsby Sukhwinder Singh. I think that it is not appropriate for Sukhwinder to give such an interview about Rahman. Off late, Sukhi has been a little to outspoken about Rahman and I don't understand what delight he gets in lashing Rahman in such a diplomatic way. I am disappointed!!! -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] CWG SONG issue Video - A must watch..
more than talent, he is lucky! - Aadesh, way to go! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM, RaijenB raije...@yahoo.com wrote: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oiFX6KjCf0 *who ever talked with logic and reality about this problem i really appreciate u guys!! thanks srinivas for backing ARR.. please leave ARR !!! thats the Fact!! *adei rasana kettavanukale thayavau seithu rahmana summa vidungadaa pleaseda ... summa irungaiyaa*!!
[arr] Re: Sukhwinder joins in now!!!
well, another comedian to entertain us!...ROFL!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, s_girish2003 s_girish2...@... wrote: Another one takes adv of this situation... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
is the reporter out of his mind he is saying vtv ,jeans and raavan are duds , i really feel very sad after reading this article , let me tell u i dont understand tamil but i feel out of the world when i listen to vtv and even my friends love it . i dont think that this repoter has ever listened to these albums, shame on him --- On Fri, 9/3/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 9:25 PM utter nonsense. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:29 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. PollWhy does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting away from the usual Rahman style. 9. 'Lovebirds': ‘No Problem’ – perhaps the only song that has outstayed the film’s shelf life – is part of a collection put together by Rahman that is mostly forgettable. 10. 'Kadhal Desam': Rahman sang some of the tracks of the 1996 Tabbu starrer. While Mustafa Mustafa went on to become a hit with several versions being replicated on the internet by budding artists, numbers such as 'Hello Doctor' never caught on.
[arr] Re: CWG SONG issue Video - A must watch..
lol...I liked your comment bro.ivangala thirutha mudiyaathu!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, RaijenB raije...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oiFX6KjCf0 who ever talked with logic and reality about this problem i really appreciate u guys!! thanks srinivas for backing ARR.. please leave ARR !!! thats the Fact!! adei rasana kettavanukale thayavau seithu rahmana summa vidungadaa pleaseda ... summa irungaiyaa!!
Re: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
Superb Article. Kalyan K. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM, myown_niche myown_ni...@yahoo.co.in wrote: http://reticentexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-we-need-to-defend-r-rahman.html
Re: [arr] Nonsense article at ibnlive.com
This may the the most idiotic list made in the history of man!..almost all the albums on the list were both acclaimed and popular!...i kind of feel bad that i clicked on it and gave it more publicity!also, the rationales provided are ridiculous!I think we should stop posting such articles here! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kalimuthu kalimu...@... wrote: ROFL! Wonderful! Jeans (though it's hindi), Mr. Romeo, Kadhal Desam, VTV?? Why didn't they include Minsara Kanavu, , Indian, Roja or at least Dil Se? On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Nidhin nidh...@... wrote: Have a look at their so called dud list: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html This article is purely outrageous :( -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Should the RTI be approached?
Its now like every cat dog is speaking about the 5Crore. should / can the RTI be approached to know the real facts? Media doesn't seem to be impressed with the celebrities who are praising and are rather more interested in using even a single negative quote as the headline. There was a news paper which quoted as its fans saying the negative feedback on FB pages. Damn I wish FB / Twitter must sue the Indian News agency for using their wide viewable medium as the source of News.
[arr] Re: Disappointed with Sukhwinder Singh's interview!
Never imagined Sukwindera to be such a thankless person. Unfortunate though that AR gave his best compositions to be sung by him. I have decided not to listen to Sukhwindera Singh's songs which he would sing in future even those songs which he would sing for AR. I know I am over reactive. But I think this is enough of tolerating the bashing on AR. I am not born with such a divine character like AR's to forgive forget. If Sukhi thinks he is unique he is not, there's a singer Raja Hassan who can do much better with AR. Almost every season of reality show for singing will have one voice which can match Sukhi. It wouldn't be any difficult for AR to find a replacement but if Sukhi loses AR he has lost his fortune. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, amrish_deep amrish_d...@... wrote: Guys, Have a look at this article from Times of India 'Rahman's become overconfident' http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-ov\ erconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-o\ verconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms by Sukhwinder Singh. I think that it is not appropriate for Sukhwinder to give such an interview about Rahman. Off late, Sukhi has been a little to outspoken about Rahman and I don't understand what delight he gets in lashing Rahman in such a diplomatic way. I am disappointed!!!
[arr] Chikku Bukku
Wanted to share this piece of info on the song, listen at 4:23 in the track and you will hear a sound that appears only at this position. Also allow your eardrums to enjoy the various tones at which the main drum beat is played in the verses Not to forget the progressive blend of various instruments from 3.11 to 3.35 WOW. Niven
[arr] Re: Our politicians, I think, are trying to divert our attention to the CWG theme song
This is just exactly what I had been thinking and added to that there are no incidents happening and the media is jobless so they are carrying pages of interviews to sell. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kalimuthu kalimu...@... wrote: Rahmanâs songs are known to grow on you, so itâs too early to dismiss it off. Our politicians, I think, are trying to divert our attention to the CWG theme song from the real problem existing there âthe stadium and corruption.â *Ashok Pandit, Filmmaker * http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_no-rah-rahs-for-ar-rahman-this-time_1432888 -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
pNever expected such a blunder from ibn live.../p
[arr] Re: Sukhwinder joins in now!!!
Well..Sukhwinder is using this opportunity to take revenge on our master coz he was not taken for the oscar performances.. He must have been waiting for these chances.. He must have forgot that big hits in his career are the ones from the master's compositions.. Shameless people..does these people know the meaning of the word GRATITUDE.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, s_girish2003 s_girish2...@... wrote: Another one takes adv of this situation... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-overconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms
[arr] Re: Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Gr8 ... i guess nowadays ... u dont need any degree or any kind of experience to be a journo ryt ?? Hell ... i think i shud giv it a try ... Rahul --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bergin Roy ber...@... wrote: Yes AJ, really feel sick... If this mentality continues, India is digging itself to be buried. Nobody would peacefully here. Shame on you reporters !!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:32 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: Gopal and everyone else, I can't believe what I just read. Who in the name of God allows these idiots to post and submit? These guys are just pulling stuff out of their snip and making it appear true. Sad is the fact that some people actually believe that whatever the media writes is true. I feel sick! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan gopal@ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating
Re: [arr] Re: Disappointed with Sukhwinder Singh's interview!
he is a good singer. deciding not to listen to him will be your own loss he is an opportunist. we saw that at the times of oscars as he called a press conference just to show is frustration for not being invited to the oscars. but whatever.. i like him as a singer. but he should have felt grateful to AR for at least letting him sing. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:20 PM, ravi ravis...@gmail.com wrote: Never imagined Sukwindera to be such a thankless person. Unfortunate though that AR gave his best compositions to be sung by him. I have decided not to listen to Sukhwindera Singh's songs which he would sing in future even those songs which he would sing for AR. I know I am over reactive. But I think this is enough of tolerating the bashing on AR. I am not born with such a divine character like AR's to forgive forget. If Sukhi thinks he is unique he is not, there's a singer Raja Hassan who can do much better with AR. Almost every season of reality show for singing will have one voice which can match Sukhi. It wouldn't be any difficult for AR to find a replacement but if Sukhi loses AR he has lost his fortune. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, amrish_deep amrish_d...@... wrote: Guys, Have a look at this article from Times of India 'Rahman's become overconfident' http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-ov\ http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-ov erconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-o\ http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/music/Rahmans-become-o verconfident/articleshow/6484596.cms by Sukhwinder Singh. I think that it is not appropriate for Sukhwinder to give such an interview about Rahman. Off late, Sukhi has been a little to outspoken about Rahman and I don't understand what delight he gets in lashing Rahman in such a diplomatic way. I am disappointed!!! -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] CWG lesson
watching ARRs interviewhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQsTvm_AWgfeature=relatedagain, he was quite frustrated but handled with laughter when question related to waka waka was asked. it was quite an untypical answer from ARR. needless to say that the reply was fitting but unfortunately media has bookmarked it and has been pointing that out left and right now. ARR requested media to write positive stuff about CWG. they came back to bash ARRs CWG anthem. whats the lesson here? - Don't bother and be cool for insane accusations. Hope ARRs silence symbolizes that. for the past two days, even m disturbed due to this meaningless turmoil. i dont know how ARR handles this. Let God give him all the power he needs to stay focussed. Iets pray. p.s: i wish ARR doesn't open up the floor for questions in the future. all u hear is BS. 1-1 interview would work as we haven't noticed any bizzare stuff during that yet.
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Don't forget there is twitter.com to express and you will find almost all the celebrated journalists there. Anything written will be visible so if they are hell bent to take a dig on AR why can't we retaliate. humiliate them for their mistake so much that they become responsible. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bergin Roy ber...@... wrote: Yes AJ, really feel sick... If this mentality continues, India is digging itself to be buried. Nobody would peacefully here. Shame on you reporters !!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:32 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: Gopal and everyone else, I can't believe what I just read. Who in the name of God allows these idiots to post and submit? These guys are just pulling stuff out of their snip and making it appear true. Sad is the fact that some people actually believe that whatever the media writes is true. I feel sick! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: Jeez.. who are these journalists (sorry mathew; not you) working in these main stream news organizations.. forget about their own knowledge,do they even do a lill research before writing up anything like this? Absolutely ridiculous article. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: I should add, commenters on Rediff message boards have taken over the media in India. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:00, Gopal Srinivasan gopal@ wrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, Why are you so bitter over a technical issue, and, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others' work and belittle their motivations? That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancumarr@ wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman's anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it's worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed Mozart of Madras of repeating the legendary success of `Roja' in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. I've heard better from Rahman, was the common sentiment on the streets when Jai Ho received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman's top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own `Waka Waka' from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a cacophony while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific
[arr] Palash Sen on Euphoria's anthem for CWG
Palash Sen on Euphoria's anthem for CWG as against Rahman's song for the opening ceremonyDr. Palash Sen is excited. He had written a heartfelt ode to Delhi 10 years ago, which is now the anthem of the Commonwealth Games (CWG) and the theme song for New Delhi itself. Wait, before you wonder what there leaves A.R. Rahman's song India bula liya, specially composed for the Games, let's clear the air. Rahman's song, commissioned by the CWG Organising Committee, will be the theme song for the Games and the opening ceremony while Palash's song, commissioned by the Delhi state government, will be the anthem for the Games and theme song for Delhi for years to come.Ever since this news trickled in, music lovers have been perplexed. Palash doesn't want to be dragged into a controversy. “It's not like our song is the national anthem, so there's no need to be confused,” he laughs. Palash and his band Euphoria were approached, he recalls, on May 14, for a song. Euphoria worked on a 30-second English song which was then developed into a full-length song. Along the way, he sang the Hindi song Dilli Meri Jaan to Sheila Dixit who loved it so much that she asked him to make it the theme song for the Games. Both the English and Hindi songs abide by the signature Hind rock format of Euphoria.Meanwhile, Palash's Euphoria has ushered in two new musicians — keyboard player Vinayak Gupta, 23, and guitarist Amborish Saikia, 25, to replace Benjamine Pinto and Hitesh Madan who quit the group recently citing differences with Palash. “Parting ways is always emotional and hurts. But the core group remains the same. The young guys have brought in fresh energy and sounds,” says Palash. The new team is recording its next album which will be released in November. A documentary made on the band, tracing their journey and capturing the thought and work that went into each of their videos, will be released online on nyootv.com beginning September 17.Euphoria has more on its plate. After composing a song for Rahul Dholakia'sLamha, the band has composed for Mammooty's Malayalam film Best of Luck. “It was a different experience. Recently, I also sang in Tamil song for the filmKatcheri Arambam. Singing in Tamil was very tough. Now I am looking forward to a Telugu song,” he says with a smile.http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/article605497.ece
Re: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts....
THE BEST article I've seen about ARR in a long time!! Well balanced, factual, from the heart, and very sincere JAI HO TO YOU! ARR should read this!!! I'm so proud of you for this beautiful composition on ARR! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || vishws...@... wrote: Very sensibly written IMHO one of THE best article on ARR in recent times. Thank you! The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: myown_niche myown_ni...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 3 September, 2010 7:53:43 PM Subject: [arr] Do we need to defend A R Rahman? Some thoughts http://reticentexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/09/do-we-need-to-defend-r-rahman.html
Re: [arr] Top 10 duds from Rahman - IBN Live
Seriously, there were some very good editors out there with respect...Everything in the media is now changed...I don't know where are we heading towards?? So, what do they think are the strengths of our nation?? Don't know what will be the fate, If they keep doing this to every icon in this country...Sigh!! On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: I guess this article says it all - you write a list of Top 10 duds and you actually struggle to come up with 10. Beyond Parasuram, nothing in that list is a dud. VTV would rank among his biggest hits. As would Jeans. Has the person even listened to the score of Water? Since when did the fact that the music was not released a criterion for judging it's success? I am reminded of this recent exchange between Apple CEO Steve Jobs and Valleywag Editor Ryan Tate, following the iPhone 4 death-grip issue, in which Jobs asked Tate, “Why are you so bitter over a technical issue,” and, “what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others’ work and belittle their motivations?” That's all that journalism has come to today. Every two-bit 14-yr old with a computer and an internet connection can write any trash and reach a million people. Except, we are not talking about 14-year olds but 40-yr old imbeciles. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 03:29, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@yahoo.com wrote: Never expected such a stupid article from TV18 group..anyways..have fun reading it guys Please..take it easy..read, laugh and delete... http://ibnlive.in.com/news/swagatham-fiasco-rahmans-top-10-duds/130209-3.html?from=tn Swagatham fiasco: Rahman's top 10 duds ibnlive.com Posted on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:24 | Updated Sep 03, 2010 at 11:52 The verdict is in. 'Swagatham', A R Rahman’s anthem for the Commonwealth Games, has received anything but rapturous welcome. People who have heard it are cool, downloads are flat, music professionals are looking away – even politicians are denouncing the song. The slow-paced number, sung by Rahman himself, has got everyone wondering whether this is what the Games deserves. Poll Why does the CWG anthem Swagatham not work for you? Slow-paced Lacks punch Style of Rahman is missing While everyone may wonder what went wrong, it’s worth remembering that Rahman, for all his apparent Midas touch with melody, has had his share of duds. Unfortunately, the tune that the nation was looking forward to has turned out to be one of them. Some of the songs Rahman composed in his early years for Malayalam and Telugu films have remained unpopular. Fans who have grown used to the trademark Rahman style over the years have also complained the composer is repeating himself. Towering expectations of the man dubbed “Mozart of Madras” of repeating the legendary success of ‘Roja’ in every film may have also led to a slump in quality in some soundtracks. “I’ve heard better from Rahman,” was the common sentiment on the streets when “Jai Ho” received international acclaim. Here, then, are Rahman’s top 10 dud soundtracks from a musical career spanning almost 20 years – songs that have either bombed at the charts or simply faded from memory for lack of fizz: 1. 'Swagatham': A nation, eagerly awaiting its own ‘Waka Waka’ from its trusted composer, is bitterly disappointed at the outcome of the Commonwealth Games anthem. Critics call it a “cacophony” while fans find the punch missing. 2. 'Raavan': The music of Raavan is dark and appeals to specific audiences. One of the most anticipated films of 2010, Rahman brings in contemporary techno and marries it off to Punjabi folk creating tracks like ‘Thok de killi’ that lack the hummability of ‘Behne de’ or its staying power. 3. 'Fire': Rahman composed the background score for Deepa Mehta's Fire. It had the appeal of any Rahman classic but failed to leave a mark in India as the soundtrack was available only through mail order from a German company. 4. 'Vinnaithandi Varuvaaya': Rahman’s Tamil album comes after a hiatus of two years and disappointed fans say the songs lack character. 5. 'Parasuram': Rahman tries to experiment with lyrics in ‘Jack and Jill’ and the effect is disastrous. Fans trash the music of this 2003 starrer and ‘Dolna Dolna’ is the only song that leaves a mark in an album that has songs sung by Hariharan. 6. 'Jeans': After a decade, ‘Ajooba’ sang by Hariharan is the only Jeans soundtrack that sticks with audiences. Beautiful lyrics by Javed Akhtar and Hariharan’s lilting vocals failed to move traditional Rahman fans looking for more than just instrumental fusions and contemporary background score. 7. 'Mr. Romeo': This Prabhu Deva starrer had songs such as “Mona Lisa” composed by Rahman that faded with the film. 8. 'Yodha': An off beat Malyalam film that had Buddhist music in it, shifting
[arr] How is ARR feeling?
I am truly hoping and praying that ARR is not too affected emotionally by what is happening in the media and all the negativity being said against his CWG song and now him and his music in general. Anyone close to ARR just tell us in short how he's handling all of this? I am concerned about him, his feelings, how he's taking all of this. I just hope he's realizing a lot of this has to do with dirty politics and media hype and that the country is not against him. Rahman's a smart man, he's in touch.he has his strong faithhe has his music..he has his family and friends who are loyal...he has his fans who are loyal..I just hope he's not too hurt and that he can move forward and keep making great music to shut up everyone. I love ARR's music, but honestly speaking, I love ARR the man morelike my brother. I would die to save his life.I'm serious. I know that sounds very melodramatic and out there, but that's how I truly feel. I can't even begin to describe how much he's contributed to my life in a positive way. I feel like I'm spiritually connected to him in some way. A lot of ARR fans probably feel the same way. I truly feel sad and disgusted by what's going on.
