Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem?
Guys, can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly. 1. why suki was not part of oscar if any visa issue then why he was subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song) post oscar... 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and other lady performars he could have invited suki also / 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha was part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?.. is there any intention on this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from grammy .??? 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was mentioning all like MIA,blazee etc etc 5. why suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song? show that he can be more popular as a pop singer in west?? i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHin anystage am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARRis very humble and down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening ...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the getting recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont get again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of statements especially when ARR failes to impress the people through CWG anthem Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very good human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions in my mind pls clarify Regds Raj From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem? Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder :P I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just can laugh :P Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder didnt left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said I will perform on Oscars stage oneday ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven spielberg film ) ...and said so many Mad things on couple of interviews !! and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all other Celeb invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt at all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt took him..and later we get to know that he had a visa proband now we know he had an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? ) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird isnt it ? :-) Let's get the fact right !! If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he aint saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !! What is the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is just so mad about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad is the correct word here in MY view !! :-) On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he himself might be. It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad, opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not. This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will prevail soon. I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake. -- Rawat On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote: Thanks a ton for the link bro !!! *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was The jai ho song was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's SongHow does Sukwinder react on this matter ? * * * *The option was ...* * * *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer* *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves* *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public* I
[arr] Re: Is ARR the master of theme music?
Atleast in tamil music, ARR was probably ( not sure ) the first MD to add something called theme music in cassettes. Before AR, the term 'theme music' was unheard, atleast to me. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: So many Out of the world themes from our boss makes me wonder if he is the best when it comes to theme music For me, the following are gorgeous (not particular order) Jeans love theme Swades theme Bombay theme Lathika's theme Duet theme - one of the best Roja theme spirit of rangeela vtv theme lagaan theme Also reminds me of another point...if ARR buys the director's vision and theme, he really churns out something everlasting...than otherwise!
[arr] Re: Dreams on Fire - one of the soulful melodies!
I felt that one song was good enough for 2 oscars. Easily my pick of the album. Everytime I am down and out thats the song I turn on to give me strength. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: Tonight (late night) around 12am, I was hearing to Dreams on Fire - both humming and the lyrical version...I was experiencing PEACE. I was CRYING in my mind. What great harmony and chord progression and divine grace the track has I then went to youtube to see the commentseveryone from Mexico to Japan to USA to France were moved and called it Original and soothing I was happy with the accolades being showered on ARR and it reaffirmed to me that SDM was indeed Oscar worthy and a great album satisfying people across the globe... we would like to hear more such divine everlasting melodies...! Way to go ARR!
[arr] Re: Mani Sir Leaving ARR..??????
Yuvan is working mani's production and not direction. Mani has used other music directors for the films in his production. Ex: Nerukku ner, Aasai, 5 star --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sandhiya vs vssandh...@... wrote: Hi Guys, I read the News that says, Maniratnam is leaving ARR and Going to join with Yuvan for his next Tamil - Hindi Ventures? Is it True? Reason of Leaving is ARR is Busy with International Projects. And also another news.. that ARR working for Gautham for next Tamil Venture.
Re: [arr] How can we fans send a message to the media?
well said. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Yes i do. keep mum and let ARRs music talk like it always has been. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:04 PM, AJ purev...@... wrote: Anyone have any creative and intelligent ideas to lash back at the media for attempting to tarnish ARR's name and submitting false info about duds? -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] Re: I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
/* The truth is nobody is scared of posting. Every person is writing whatever he wishes to say or that he has in his mind. Its just taking shelters by saying feeling afraid to post and creating a sensitive drama. I never seen anybody saying such words even limiting the posts. */ Read this thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/139995 So, I don't buy 'The truth is nobody is scared of posting.' /* Also whats wrong in being critic to a post, why cant somebody consider that as a discussion. If criticizing AR's music is to be considered as opinion then such post is also same like AR's music. So, the writer must himself welcome such critic to his post as well. */ Do you know more than AR?,Who are you to say its mediocre? These comments don't look like discussion and is just asking other poster to shut up. And getting sensitive about every negative comment and reacting causes problems only to ourselves. My entire summary on this thread is ,like AR, we should also be less sensitive about negative criticism and just move on. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravis...@... wrote: The truth is nobody is scared of posting. Every person is writing whatever he wishes to say or that he has in his mind. Its just taking shelters by saying feeling afraid to post and creating a sensitive drama. I never seen anybody saying such words even limiting the posts. Also whats wrong in being critic to a post, why cant somebody consider that as a discussion. If criticizing AR's music is to be considered as opinion then such post is also same like AR's music. So, the writer must himself welcome such critic to his post as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote: We are getting too sensitive here. Thats precisely making people feel scared too post. Listened to something. If it pleases your ears enjoy. Share what you liked. If somebody disagrees, try understanding why? If you don't agree leave them in peace. why should we have a firewall, and filter words like 'mediocre', 'Average', 'bad'? Anyways, getting sensitive and upset about something is also a personal choice. Just that my choice happens to be different. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravisdev@ wrote: I dont think there can be anything painful than a fan himself calls AR's work as mediocre. If a fan can use such a term its no surprise that those who aren't AR fans or those who don't like him say anything negative about AR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality
[arr] Re: Any classical music based songs by ARR coming up?
Yes...I too want a classical album by AR.Too be specifc I want a AR-Shyam Benegal combo rite now. Thats because of a string of commercial albums released. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote: Amidst all the mixed responses to Puli, Endhiran CWG song, it just occurred to me this morning, when my wife was humming Narumugaye song from Iruvar, that it has been very very long time since ARR composed a pure classical song. Yes we have been treated with hiphop (doche) or ballads (Jaa re Ud jaa or Behne De) or electronic stuff (Endhiran) etc, but it has been real long time since we had a pure classical song. Can anyone recall which was the classical composition from ARR. I cant exactly count Bhor Bhayee, since it was a recording by Late Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. I think the last classical music based song (cant call it fully pure classical) that sound very Hindustani in tone was Man Mohana from Jodha Akbar. And thats in 2008. The song from Yuvvraaj (Manmohini) is a very short bit-piece like song that is more of fusion, in its treatment, rather than classical. And Nammakameeyyaraa from Puli is a slow devotional number. I hope ARR does some classical songs. Something like Sangamam songs, Water songs. Been long time. Regards Aakarsh
[arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
Thats precisely what I am saying. A better choice of word by Ar wouldnt have given media a chance to misinterpret. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: Actually, going beyond doesn't necessarily mean to surpass something. It can also mean to be different or away from something. In that light, probably ARR would have meant that CWG theme would be something different than Waka Waka rather than what was interpreted by the media. --- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: [arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:43 PM  He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as inappropriate choice of word. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven nivensrn@ wrote: which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass??? Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!! Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms Regards Aakarsh  Â
Re: [arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010
He said 'KM Music conservatory is doing awesome job' I guess he meant they are doing a awesome job in bringing out talented singers. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin mnsa...@... wrote: Why he mentioned KM Music conservatory. SAJIN From: Sriram S srirams_pa...@... To: A R Rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 5:12:54 PM Subject: [arr] Video: Harris praising AR in Isai aruvi awards 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWfqvX6OOs
[arr] Re: I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
We are getting too sensitive here. Thats precisely making people feel scared too post. Listened to something. If it pleases your ears enjoy. Share what you liked. If somebody disagrees, try understanding why? If you don't agree leave them in peace. why should we have a firewall, and filter words like 'mediocre', 'Average', 'bad'? Anyways, getting sensitive and upset about something is also a personal choice. Just that my choice happens to be different. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravis...@... wrote: I dont think there can be anything painful than a fan himself calls AR's work as mediocre. If a fan can use such a term its no surprise that those who aren't AR fans or those who don't like him say anything negative about AR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] leave ARR
oopsie..I was nt aware. Thanks for correcting Rajib bhai. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: The exact word is Short-listed ...NOT Nominated ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Arijit Debnath arijit...@... wrote: RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. Is it true?? I heard 2 songs were selected in last 63 songs in the Academy Awards Arijit On 31 August 2010 06:36, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvinayak@wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad666@ *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharaba25@wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr] Re: CWG song waka waka
agreed though i like CWG song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, light4_u light...@... wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
Re: [arr] leave ARR
I meant the same.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath arijit...@... wrote: RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. Is it true?? I heard 2 songs were selected in last 63 songs in the Academy Awards Arijit On 31 August 2010 06:36, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvinayak@wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad666@ *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharaba25@wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
[arr] Re: Top 5 unconventional songs from ARR
In my list masti ki patshaala doesnt qualify as unconcventional. But Oru koodai sunlight(sivaji), Dil Gira Daftan(D6) does. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: Friends...ARR has created so many unconventional songs to great success and I'm posting a short list of unconventional songs from ARR that I enjoyed recently: You will understand what I mean by unconventional if you hear 'em!!! 1)Strayberry Penne 2)Aaromale 3)Thee Thee 4)Sowkiyama 5)Manmadha Vasam 6)Theekuruviyil 7)Pudhiya Manidha 8)Pettai Rap 9)O Saya 10)Masti Ki Paathshala Only our boss can manage such diverse soundscapes (all coming from 1 man )
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@yahoo.co.in wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Re: Will the CWG song be re-done now?
He said we would do something beyond Waka Waka. I think he meant something different but his choice of word can be easily interpreted as surpass. I was surprised by his response initially. But having seen and heard almost every AR interview in the last 10 -12 years, i just ignored it as inappropriate choice of word. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Niven niven...@... wrote: which he had famously claimed his tune would surpass??? Did Rahman mention this? I am very doubtful!!! Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: http://movies.indiatimes.com/News-Gossip/News/AR-Rahmans-theme-track-for-CWG-rejected/articleshow/6472955.cms Regards Aakarsh
Re: [arr] Food for thought from ARR Sir: Lets Start September with SOME Positiveness. :-)
Great post Manisha. Relief among boring CWG posts. Thanks again. Btw,In which interview he said ' I am inspired by beethovan,mozart,bach.. ' ( point 2 ). If you have the link please share. thanks. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: Wonderful wonderful Wonderful Very good post Manisha. Thanks for this. Lets all dive deep into this post and observe the essence On 9/1/10, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@... wrote: Just thought would post 5 interesting quotes by Rahman Sir that have caught my attention. I know there is an ocean of others, but felt these were the most relevant at the moment. :) Feel free to add your different 5. 1. There is a story of Michelangelo -- if I am not wrong -- which I heard recently. It seems that he was painting beautiful pictures at the back of the church. People told him you are a fool because you are not painting in the front where people can appreciate your work. The answer was: I do my work for God. I think he can watch it anywhere. I thought it was a brilliant answer because everything doesn't need to have instant appreciation. Even if one of you have appreciated those fine nuances, that is enough for me. 2. No one can be completely original, because the notes are already there. I do a lot of fusion from different traditions including Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, reggae, rock and Carnatic music my favourites. As far as possible, i try to be original. The rest is up to Allah. 3. We have to push ourselves in any field, whether we like it or not. It is just the question of your mindset. We need to adjust and look into our own selves. The moment you have this attitude that whatever you do is the best, you will cease to grow or for that matter experiment, which is very necessary for creation. I mainly work by instinct. 4. Any great love song, when attributed to a divine source, gets an extra dimension People say any love that is immortal is divine love The inspiration, therefore, is a divine one.. 5. I also believe in karma. When you do good and think good, there're bound to be good things happening in your life too. The good wishes you earn in this lifetime are the real awards. Good work may or may not get you the awards, but you will always reap the benefits of good wishes, that's the real Reward! Have a great month all :) ManishaM -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u
Chill guys..AR has seen even more harsher critics.I want AR to work on the projects he likes and gets inspired the most irrespective of whether its Government, Private, Government aided and anything else. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chris Raj chris78_...@... wrote: My thoughts on the controversies.. 1. ARR should stop working on Govt projects which involves political influences and avoid working with people who doesnt have musical taste and knowledge as CWG board. 2. concentrate only on west and hollywood movies and gain more oscars and beome more popular ICON on hollywood... 3. No Indian assignments for another few years and surely people would come beyond ARR for great music Raj From: Kalimuthu kalimu...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 9:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [arr] rahman sir stop composing for indian films and themes these guys forgotten u Yes, they do. If he gives another hit (does not mean that this is a flop) or gets another international award, people will forget this controversy too. :-) So, there's no need to leave India. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:30 PM, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: sir indians have a nature to forget everything easily. sir dont compose music for india. go abroad do only hollywood movies and albums, thats enough. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 5:37 AM http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- Sent from 127.0.0.1
[arr] Re: ARR- We All Fans are With You
I am with AR as well. Please convey to AR that his fans are with him. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nandatronics nandatron...@... wrote: Hi All, I wish and I desperately want to meet ARR and say to him that we all fans are with him. I request Gopal/ Vijay or some one close to ARR to convey that we are liking his CWG anthem and we are with him. I myself not able to resist from the kind of comments and thrashing the media and politicians are doing for the CWG and I don't know how ARR is feeling about all these. I also felt that ARR should never accept any requests especially if politicians are involved but what else he could have done, even if he had refused to compose the song earlier, all these politicians/ media and other music composers wud have commented that after after Oscars ARR has got some head weight and hence refused to compose for CWG and they wud have made it the headlines everywhere. As our media and politicians are know for the blame game. Even God cannot satisfy all humans So I request ARR not to get affected due to these negative comments and allow his creative mind peace to be disturbed. ARR We All Love You, We Know Your Worth, Quality, Originality, Hard Work and We Love your CWG theme as well. Good Job Keep Going.
Re: [arr] leave ARR
Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@...wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@...wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
[arr] Re: CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Superb sir..Your fan club is increasing :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Alphons Joseph alpho...@... wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] SAD abt ENDHIRAN songs
atlast some good sense of humour from KP.. good one :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: Hello sir... Please dont write in BLOCK LETTERS... Anyone who writes in block letters, will be labelled as my alter ego. People here dont know that I dont require one, to express my views, whether positive or negative. I dont bother what people say, so I needn't sacrifice my identity to express my views. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM, fameeb mohd fameebm...@...wrote: Dear Fellow Rahmaniacs, I am feeling really low after hearing the songs from ENDHIRAN. Always, whenever, our BOSS songs are released, I used to hear all the songs in a continuous loop. I used to adore some songs and love to keep listening to the other songs. My friends used to get fed up of me talking/raving about the new release of ARR. Our BOSS music used to give me a chance to visualise beautiful imageries based solely on his music. It used to play continuously in my mind , even when the player is turned off. But ENDHIRAN has crashed me. I had to stop playing those songs and that hurt me a lot. Never before in my life, I have been so disappointed about our ARR music. I am really SAD. The songs did not have that soul connecting quality, in other words, the music did not connect with me. The songs did not have the stand alone quality. May be the movie demanded such songs. May be, my expectation were much higher for a Shankar- ARR movie. I am really praying that my perspective changes after watching the movie. But for the time being, I can't stand ARR song, for the first time ever. And I am HURT SAD. But believe me friends, I am trying really hard. However , forcing oneself does not give genuine pleasure . Your fellow rahmaniac, Fameeb.
[arr] Re: songs database
Exactly murugan..Its lot easier to update the data in Google docs. Please try to upload the updated sheet to Google docs and share the link. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: Hello Roshan I did think about creating a form. But entering data in eXcel or such formats is much convenient and faster than an online form. It can then ported to an online Db. What say? Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: new fields for songs *Song_Name**Film_or_album_name**Singers**Instrumentalists* *Lyricist** Raaga**Genre**Awards_Won* *Awards_Nominated**Appearence_in_Compilations** Picturized_on* *Notes*Delete Record Printer http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanSongs/form1.html songs db is here to see the data http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanSongs/admin/index.php http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/admin/index.php On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Thank you everyone who took the time to compile the list for the db. i have just created a form to collect the data directly to MySQL. so that exporting it to any db would be easier. http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/form1.html i will be adding in teh album names from the excel file we have when i get a chance, but if you want to add something by yourself, please feel free.. it is just using a form generator. the only goal is to collect the data. these are the updated fields for Album. yet to do the songs db section. *Film Or Album* *Language**Dubbed**Year of Movie Release* *Year of Audio Release**Genre**Audio Company* *Actors**director **Movie Genre**Awards Won for music* *Awards Nominated for music**AWards won for movie**awards nominated for movie* *Other notes* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: songs database
Sorry forgot to add.. Good effort Roshan. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: Hello Roshan I did think about creating a form. But entering data in eXcel or such formats is much convenient and faster than an online form. It can then ported to an online Db. What say? Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: new fields for songs *Song_Name**Film_or_album_name**Singers**Instrumentalists* *Lyricist** Raaga**Genre**Awards_Won* *Awards_Nominated**Appearence_in_Compilations** Picturized_on* *Notes*Delete Record Printer http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanSongs/form1.html songs db is here to see the data http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanSongs/admin/index.php http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/admin/index.php On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Thank you everyone who took the time to compile the list for the db. i have just created a form to collect the data directly to MySQL. so that exporting it to any db would be easier. http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/form1.html i will be adding in teh album names from the excel file we have when i get a chance, but if you want to add something by yourself, please feel free.. it is just using a form generator. the only goal is to collect the data. these are the updated fields for Album. yet to do the songs db section. *Film Or Album* *Language**Dubbed**Year of Movie Release* *Year of Audio Release**Genre**Audio Company* *Actors**director **Movie Genre**Awards Won for music* *Awards Nominated for music**AWards won for movie**awards nominated for movie* *Other notes* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Song Database Structure
From the Single song excel sheet uploaded by murugan, any kind of list can be easily extracted. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: My personal preference is to have a thorough list (actor, actresses, director etc), Roshan but if it makes things more complex, i guess we can exclude it. From: Roshan c.pix...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 24 August, 2010 0:17:05 Subject: Re: [arr] Song Database Structure do we need the actors information and all ? not sure.. they don't mean anything to music. just my opinion. but if you all think it is useful, let's keep it. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: [Attachment(s) from Vinayakam Murugan included below] I have switched the Movie name and Song Name column in the sheet sent by ARRvind. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: Sorry, I thought I had added Movie Name. ARRvind has added both of your requests. Thanks, ARRvind. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: Hey Raj Movie Name is already there. I will add Raga to the same. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:50 AM, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: Hi Vinayagam Murugan, The format is ok. Please add the following columns on the songs sheet. movie_name Ragaa Please upload the same to google docs as it can be edited online by the group members. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: sorry.. scratch that. opened it. I think it is a good format. let's start using it and probably add some more columns. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: Vinayak, I am not able to open it on iWork Numbers. it usually opens all the spreadsheet formats including .xls. but i can't open this one. what do you think is the problem ? I don't have windows. I can try it on Ubuntu later. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.lists@ wrote: [Attachment(s) #12a9b6fdb7b61031_12a94d62ec0198a1_TopText from Vinayakam Murugan included below] Hello Friends I decided to change the Subject line to make it more relevant. Here is a scratch Db Structure. Like I have seperated Films / Albums from Songs, we should seperate Singers Awards also from Songs. However that could be better achieved through a Db than excel. This sheet is for illustration purposes only. Further Db normalization is required. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:02 AM, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote: Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :) I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be great if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following fields. 1) Film_name 2) Song_name 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated ) 4) date of release 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli ) 6) Director of the film 7) Lead actor 8) Actress 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible ) 10) Language 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no) 12) Producer of the film 13) Lyricst. 14) Miscellaneous. You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it simple as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize ) depending upon our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on google docs and start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can contribute and we can get these details soon. Once the data collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can start working on the application. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote: Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems. I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also, I'd be happy to allocate time to sit through the group mails for the information that will make it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research aspects of the work involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy to contribute in the form getting the data together , more on the creative side rather than the technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of people who are willing to help. And this has got to be a bit
Re: [arr] songs database
Hi Gops, If we do have most of the information, then please share the same in any format. A scalable design is possible, but i am afraid it can be bit complicated for us to start enetering the data with it. We can come up with a ER diagram for the same, but it can be diffcult for us enter the data to it. IMO, as a first step if we have the details of songs as a excel sheet prepared by murugan, then we can easily import the same into a scalable DB design ( I can help on that ). Importing the data from the basic excel to a complicated database design cn be performed easily thro ETL tools and bit of querying and data massaging. Regards, S.V.Nagaraj --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: Thanks to everyone that agreed to participate. The enthusiasm to get things rolling is encouraging. However, I would caution against adhoc development. Between ourselves, we have 90%-95% of the data we need. So, that need not be the focus. In my view, the focus needs to be on designing a database that is robust and extensible in design. It should allow for backend storage and front end ingestion and retrieval of data. Extensibility is particularly important because there may be views of data that we don't conceive now but will be come apparent in future. A relational database schema seems like the best approach to take. Let me illustrate that with an example - in some cases you have credits for musicians for a song and in many cases only for an entire album. This is true for awards too. The only way this can be handled is through relational databases with well thought-through entity-relationships. I would therefore request that let our initial focus be on defining what kind of information are we seeking to archive and then design the database before getting down to implementation. Populating it with data is a relatively trivial task. Suggestions welcome. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 19:48, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Thank you everyone who took the time to compile the list for the db. i have just created a form to collect the data directly to MySQL. so that exporting it to any db would be easier. http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/form1.html i will be adding in teh album names from the excel file we have when i get a chance, but if you want to add something by yourself, please feel free.. it is just using a form generator. the only goal is to collect the data. these are the updated fields for Album. yet to do the songs db section. *Film Or Album* *Language**Dubbed**Year of Movie Release* *Year of Audio Release**Genre**Audio Company* *Actors**director **Movie Genre**Awards Won for music* *Awards Nominated for music**AWards won for movie**awards nominated for movie* *Other notes* -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] songs database
My responses inline. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: /* This may be a very silly question - can we add tags to each entry? For eg , names of singers etc are sometimes spelt in different ways.In order to cover all the variations, should we add tags? */ Yes can. Perhaps have it comma separated or have a additional column. /* Also , would it help to add the Raaga of each song. I am sure there are songs which have more than one raaga. presumably they are separated by a comma? */ Ragas can be comma separated as of now. /* And how do we want to export this database to the group? Is the only solution to host it external to the group? or could we somehow attach it to the group? Sorry about the stupid questions. */ The idea is to develope a page/application like Roshan did which would help us search all the details we need. The page or application would demand bit of thinking to do. But, as a first step we would need the data to be represented in some format which the guys the working on. Once the song details are complete, we ca start working on the application. Changing or adding data to the database is not a difficult task anyways. /* Could we also add a column for the musicians who worked on each album? and sound engineer as well. Try and capture all the data on the cd perhaps? but this might be going overboard. No harm adding a column I guess. Should Genre have a subdivision to say what the song is predominantly about? patriotic, mother, wedding song etc? */ Yes definitely. We can add a column as sound engineer. Please feel free to add columns with related info. Target is to have all the details on CD. But its a tough target to think of right now. To get started we can first start with song list with a few basic details. As said earlier, rest of the details can be added later on as they come. Thank you for your suggestions Thanks for this Roshan. Great start. I think before people start entering data into this, we should decide on whether more columns/data are required and agree on it collectively? Just a suggestion. From: Roshan c.pix...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 24 August, 2010 0:48:33 Subject: [arr] songs database Thank you everyone who took the time to compile the list for the db. i have just created a form to collect the data directly to MySQL. so that exporting it to any db would be easier. http://sandbox.roshanravi.com/arrdb/use/ARRahmanDatabase/form1.html i will be adding in teh album names from the excel file we have when i get a chance, but if you want to add something by yourself, please feel free.. it is just using a form generator. the only goal is to collect the data. these are the updated fields for Album. yet to do the songs db section. Film Or Album Language Dubbed Year of Movie Release Year of Audio Release Genre Audio Company Actors director Movie Genre Awards Won for music Awards Nominated for music AWards won for movie awards nominated for movie Other notes -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: Group database team (e-mail add)
I was that someone. I cna help on the DB design and getting the data on to the DB design. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Let's use the one that Vinayak has done. i think it is more usable as evn people can add stuff offline. and like gops said in the other thread lets start thinking about what we want to do with the data. i read about someone saying that he was a DBA ? probably can help us out with those stuff. but first lets get a refined format before even putting all the data. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Ok guys, I think we already have duplication. Vinayak has set up one and so has Roshan. I think we should stick to a mailing list to avoid duplication of tasks and help focus. That way we will save time and effort. -- *From:* Indmov Buff indmovb...@... *To:* A R arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tue, 24 August, 2010 9:51:58 *Subject:* [arr] Group database team (e-mail add) Should we limit database related e-mails to those who volunteered. That way we will not end up duplicating others work because the e-mails won't get buried amongst the majority of other group mail. Easier to focus on the task as well. If you guys are happy for this to go ahead, then presumably we need e-mail addresses of those who volunteered themselves below so that we can have a database mailing list. This is of course a suggestion. If people are uncomfortable sharing their e-mail add, then we'll have to go about it another way. But I think we should sort of stick to the team for better output. Gopal 1)Roshan 2)Vinayakam Murugan 3) Farzad Khaleel 4) Indmovbuff 5) Rahul 6) swaps 7) Swamy (aka Kitcha) 8) Hashir 9) Maddy 10)Srinath. 11)Jesheem 12)Serge Belier 13)Rivjot 14)Sirish 15) Shreyas Jagadeesh 16)Rahul Menon 17)Amith Chandran -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: My small Contribution for Song Database Structure
Awesome work..Great start..Thanks Aravind..We will start updating --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ARRvind arr_arv...@... wrote: Pals.. Listed the album names, year of release and also the star cast for them in this attached file. Pls go through the list and pls modify if there is any changes / corrections to be done. Need to fill in directors/producers and other info..! --- On Mon, 8/23/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Song Database Structure To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 1:20 AM Â Hi Vinayagam Murugan, The format is ok. Please add the following columns on the songs sheet. movie_name Ragaa Please upload the same to google docs as it can be edited online by the group members. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: sorry.. scratch that. opened it. I think it is a good format. let's start using it and probably add some more columns. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: Vinayak, I am not able to open it on iWork Numbers. it usually opens all the spreadsheet formats including .xls. but i can't open this one. what do you think is the problem ? I don't have windows. I can try it on Ubuntu later. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.lists@ wrote: [Attachment(s) #12a9b6fdb7b61031_12a94d62ec0198a1_TopText from Vinayakam Murugan included below] Hello Friends I decided to change the Subject line to make it more relevant. Here is a scratch Db Structure. Like I have seperated Films / Albums from Songs, we should seperate Singers Awards also from Songs. However that could be better achieved through a Db than excel. This sheet is for illustration purposes only. Further Db normalization is required. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:02 AM, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote: Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :) I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be great if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following fields. 1) Film_name 2) Song_name 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated ) 4) date of release 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli ) 6) Director of the film 7) Lead actor 8) Actress 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible ) 10) Language 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no) 12) Producer of the film 13) Lyricst. 14) Miscellaneous. You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it simple as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize ) depending upon our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on google docs and start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can contribute and we can get these details soon. Once the data collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can start working on the application. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote: Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems. I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also, I'd be happy to allocate time to sit through the group mails for the information that will make it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research aspects of the work involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy to contribute in the form getting the data together , more on the creative side rather than the technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of people who are willing to help. And this has got to be a bit of a commitment given that we will need to co-ordinate with members around the world with different work and social commitments. I am up for it! From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 16:51:43 Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails Glad to see this outpouring of enthusiasm. Hopefully, it will sustain. I, among others, have tried various forms of this previously that did not culminate in anything (beyond my discography, which too hasn't been updated in a year) as time turned out to be a major constraint. Some of the modes we have considered includes
Re: [arr] Song Database Structure
Hi Vinayagam Murugan, The format is ok. Please add the following columns on the songs sheet. movie_name Ragaa Please upload the same to google docs as it can be edited online by the group members. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: sorry.. scratch that. opened it. I think it is a good format. let's start using it and probably add some more columns. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Vinayak, I am not able to open it on iWork Numbers. it usually opens all the spreadsheet formats including .xls. but i can't open this one. what do you think is the problem ? I don't have windows. I can try it on Ubuntu later. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Vinayakam Murugan mvinayakam.li...@... wrote: [Attachment(s) #12a9b6fdb7b61031_12a94d62ec0198a1_TopText from Vinayakam Murugan included below] Hello Friends I decided to change the Subject line to make it more relevant. Here is a scratch Db Structure. Like I have seperated Films / Albums from Songs, we should seperate Singers Awards also from Songs. However that could be better achieved through a Db than excel. This sheet is for illustration purposes only. Further Db normalization is required. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:02 AM, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :) I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be great if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following fields. 1) Film_name 2) Song_name 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated ) 4) date of release 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli ) 6) Director of the film 7) Lead actor 8) Actress 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible ) 10) Language 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no) 12) Producer of the film 13) Lyricst. 14) Miscellaneous. You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it simple as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize ) depending upon our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on google docs and start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can contribute and we can get these details soon. Once the data collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can start working on the application. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote: Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems. I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also, I'd be happy to allocate time to sit through the group mails for the information that will make it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research aspects of the work involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy to contribute in the form getting the data together , more on the creative side rather than the technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of people who are willing to help. And this has got to be a bit of a commitment given that we will need to co-ordinate with members around the world with different work and social commitments. I am up for it! From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 16:51:43 Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails Glad to see this outpouring of enthusiasm. Hopefully, it will sustain. I, among others, have tried various forms of this previously that did not culminate in anything (beyond my discography, which too hasn't been updated in a year) as time turned out to be a major constraint. Some of the modes we have considered includes static web lists, wikis and databases. In my opinion, a database at the backend is probably the best with front end forms for querying. Depending on how simple or complex it turns out, something like Zoho Creator might work too. What's needed is the involvement of people who are well versed with database design AND those that can source information. If we can do a good enough job of this there is potential to make it official. Next steps perhaps include forming a core team, identifying the types of information we want stored, design the schema and then create and populate. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:31, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: I can work on the technical side of it. (Development and design). But will really appreciate if someone can assist as well. I will need some help from you guys about collecting the info from the group. it seems like a lot. but if we collectively do it, we can finish it in within a month or two (including the development
[arr] Re: New Website for A.R.Rahman
good site..thanks for sharing --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kalistones kalisto...@... wrote: http://www.oxyhearts.com/en/videos/viewcategory/12/arrahman Here all the A.R.Rahman videos and awards winninig videos s there...!!!
Re: [arr] Sign-up if you want to work on a group database ( contents from useful e-mails)
count me in --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ~ s...@... ~ swaps15...@... wrote: count me in2swaps --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: From: Roshan c.pix...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Sign-up if you want to work on a group database ( contents from useful e-mails) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 6:01 AM  I AM IN oh my name is there :) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:  Please reply and add your name to the list if you are serious about helping out. Gopal - Captain of the ship (did I just volunteer yourself ?)1)Roshan2)Vinayakam Murugan 3) Farzad Khaleel 4) Indmovbuff -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails
Ok..I make a living by Databases and Databases only :) I am a DBA. So yes..I can help. As a first step, it would be great if someone can comeup with a excel containing the following fields. 1) Film_name 2) Song_name 3) Singers_name ( comma seperated ) 4) date of release 5) Genre of the song ( Western,fusion,carnatic classical,quawalli ) 6) Director of the film 7) Lead actor 8) Actress 9) Ragaa of the song ( if possible ) 10) Language 11) is_dubbed_film ( yes/no) 12) Producer of the film 13) Lyricst. 14) Miscellaneous. You can add few more fields if you feel like. I am keeping it simple as of now and we can change the DB design( (De)Normalize ) depending upon our needs. As a first step, someone can create a document on google docs and start updating the same. As its on Google docs, most of us can contribute and we can get these details soon. Once the data collection is complete, DB design can be adjusted and we can start working on the application. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Fantastic! The majority vote is for a database it seems. I don't have any skills in database but open to learning. Also, I'd be happy to allocate time to sit through the group mails for the information that will make it a good database. I am mainly interested in the research aspects of the work involved in finishing this database that we are after. So happy to contribute in the form getting the data together , more on the creative side rather than the technical side. So I guess, we should start off with a list of people who are willing to help. And this has got to be a bit of a commitment given that we will need to co-ordinate with members around the world with different work and social commitments. I am up for it! From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 16:51:43 Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails Glad to see this outpouring of enthusiasm. Hopefully, it will sustain. I, among others, have tried various forms of this previously that did not culminate in anything (beyond my discography, which too hasn't been updated in a year) as time turned out to be a major constraint. Some of the modes we have considered includes static web lists, wikis and databases. In my opinion, a database at the backend is probably the best with front end forms for querying. Depending on how simple or complex it turns out, something like Zoho Creator might work too. What's needed is the involvement of people who are well versed with database design AND those that can source information. If we can do a good enough job of this there is potential to make it official. Next steps perhaps include forming a core team, identifying the types of information we want stored, design the schema and then create and populate. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:31, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: I can work on the technical side of it. (Development and design). But will really appreciate if someone can assist as well. I will need some help from you guys about collecting the info from the group. it seems like a lot. but if we collectively do it, we can finish it in within a month or two (including the development). I will also need some input in choosing the domain I thought of some ARDB.in arrinfo.org i tried some domains that has ar rahman in the name, but they all seem to have been taken. As for hosting and domain, I don't mind paying for it. I have a dedicated server where I host my clients. so, to sum it up 1. website as a database of information on ar rahman and his music. 2. categorized, search-able contents like Reviews, Information, Singers, Instrumentalists, Instruments Used, Places performed, Debuts, quotes, interviews etc. 3. Quality contents from the group. like awesome reviews of AJ and Gayathri and the rest of those people who write good contents. of course, with credits and links to their blogs / websites etc, if they have any. please contribute your suggestions. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Me too! Like where we can sort by singer name or raaga name etc. Just info. IT savvy people out there- what's the best way to go about this? From: Roshan c.pix...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 21:45:59 Subject: Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails That gives me another idea. how about a website with all the info about AR Rahman, his singers, his songs, Genres, and all the other info we find from our group ? we can make it as an extension of this group. there won't be any forum or anything.. just info. I would love to do it. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010
[arr] Re: 2010 a wonderful year for all arr fans
Very true..2010 is a rocking year like 2008 :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, prasad s prasad_s...@... wrote: 2010 is really rocking with a.r.r. he has blown us out right from the begining of this year. what a wonderful year was this with vtv, raavan, puli, enthiran, ipl theme song, semmozhi theme and now cwg theme. and still more to come. rahman sir was rocking this year. he rocked the whole nation non stop. proud to be a rahman fan since 16 years. hail rahman ji
Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails
I said it earlier as well. Its better we have it one single website. Already we have arrahman.com . Another good site rahmanism.com run by a rahamanic. If we can just get the song and singer details as a CSV/excel, we can port it to any website easily. First step should be to get a excel with detail about each song. Details like songname,album name,director name,genre,ragaa,singer(s) etc shd be included. From there developing a webpage and then pushing it into any of the two sites shouldnt be difficult. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: ok. I am doing it :) gonna get a domain. anyone would like to suggest a good domain ? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: That gives me another idea. how about a website with all the info about AR Rahman, his singers, his songs, Genres, and all the other info we find from our group ? we can make it as an extension of this group. there won't be any forum or anything.. just info. I would love to do it. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:53 PM, ARRvind arr_arv...@... wrote: Nice initiative.! Would mean a lot to this group.! Lets get Gopal bro's comment on this! --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Indmov Buff indmovb...@...* wrote: From: Indmov Buff indmovb...@... Subject: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails To: A R arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:54 PM Hi Gopal and the rest, I have read many e-mails containing useful data in this group before. Just like Arvind's unique list of intro songs for singers there have been other lists such as Mother songs, child singers lists, raaga based lists and several other extremely interesting lists. I strongly feel that we should have all of this documented as part of the group? Any suggestions on how this can be done? Database? I am happy to put in time to dig out useful data from old e-mails. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails
I guess we should work on getting it on arrahman.com or rahmanism.com No need for a new website. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: That gives me another idea. how about a website with all the info about AR Rahman, his singers, his songs, Genres, and all the other info we find from our group ? we can make it as an extension of this group. there won't be any forum or anything.. just info. I would love to do it. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:53 PM, ARRvind arr_arv...@... wrote: Nice initiative.! Would mean a lot to this group.! Lets get Gopal bro's comment on this! --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Indmov Buff indmovb...@...* wrote: From: Indmov Buff indmovb...@... Subject: [arr] Database for group of contents from useful e-mails To: A R arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 12:54 PM Hi Gopal and the rest, I have read many e-mails containing useful data in this group before. Just like Arvind's unique list of intro songs for singers there have been other lists such as Mother songs, child singers lists, raaga based lists and several other extremely interesting lists. I strongly feel that we should have all of this documented as part of the group? Any suggestions on how this can be done? Database? I am happy to put in time to dig out useful data from old e-mails. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Endhiran - The magic have finally been revealed to me
Well I disagree.. I tried to listen to HR's Kajaree and after like 10 listens i gave up liking 1 song and the rest didnt work for me.. Honestly i give most of the good ones from other MDS abt 5 to listens.. somework and some dont..almost all of AR work for my ears and thats the reason i am in this grp. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sandeep Mody sandeepmody...@... wrote: i feel if u hear himesh reshamiya music 100 times then u will like that one also. Earlier Rahman music was so unique and melodius..if u hear first time then u will like it but nowadays rahman has lost that quality On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 PM, G unonumero thugs4e...@...wrote: I have been listening to Endhiran non-stop ever since it released. I must admit. I didnt like it at the beginning. I felt as though most of the songs have fallen short of expectation. I was expecting to be blown out of my mind from sheer brilliance of the music. But what I got was songs that were at best brilliant at some point in bits and pieces. But, boy oh boy, I couldnt be more wrong. Many have spoken of ar rahman songs as slow poisons. I have also experienced it many times before. But this time, the effect is far more profound. I am now singing a different tune. I now feel that Endhiran is one of Ar Rahman most briliiant commercial compositions of all time. It must seem as though I am overly exaggerating. But this is how I honestly feel. Why the sudden change in opinion you may ask? Well, I dont know exactly why. Its as though my brain has started to finally tune in to the right frequency. Its as though I have finally come to a realization or an awakening to the genius. The Endhiran songs brilliance were revealed to me one layer at a time. Each song is a revelation. Every one of them. I am at loss for words. I cant seem to express my thoughts clearly in words but the music is brilliant guys. Music composed with the Super Star, The Robot element and Shankars grand vision in mind with plenty of magic all over. Melody, Groove, Rap, Techno all mixed into a concotion of such potent musical brilliace that Tamil music has never seen or heard before. I truly believe that many will come to experience the bliss of realization of the magic in Endhiran music once they are ready for it. Some realize it earlier and some will realize later. Everyone is different and will have to go through the process themselves to discover the magic. But without doubt, once the movie is released every one of us will be hooked to the songs. At the beginning, many would only hear the beats and noisy sounds. But slowly the melody will reveal itself to our senses. And the combination of melody and modern grooves will bring us to a new experience in tamil music. I cant only wonder what will happen when the movie comes out and we get to see the visuals together with the music. Cant wait for that moment. Keep listening guys. May the magic be revealed to you soon. (For faster realization, try listening with good headphones/sound systems - not with mp3 or cheap lousy earphones/speakers) Remember this is an auditory experience. -- Trusting in God never makes the mountain smaller, it just makes the climbing easier. I never ask Him for the lighter load, but only for the stronger back. when goin is very tough , tough get goin...
[arr] Re: Members should understand that they can't like all genres given by ARR
Nice way of putting why you dont like somethng and why you like something. Good mail Rawatji. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: During 18 years of my following of ARR's works, I had started liking ARR not with Roja, but with Urvasi of Humse Hai Muqabla, even Gopala. But I got quite disappointed with Hindustani's Latka Jhatka, Duniya Dilwalo Ki's Hello Doctor, Dil Hi Dil Me's Maria, etc. Rangeela songs appeared so barren on first hearing, even chhaiya chhaiya first seen on TV ad was appearing so comedily funny like a bunch of monkeys jumping senselessly. They came in a short duration, so I generalized that ARR has changed and I had lost faith on him. But, then I again started liking his other albums, and even liked some of the songs in the above albums also. That was how I discovered the growing effect of ARR songs. I still don't like some above mentioned songs but of course I now am mad about chhayya chhayaa and rangeela (mangta hai kya, can u believe?), I still don't like Roja much (not dislike but I have my likings), I didn't like most of JTJTN, Ghajini, I have a lot of misgivings about selection of type of music for JA that failed to measure up to Mughal-e-Azam, that was ARR's worst lost opportunity. Blue I have beaten endlessly. And I still like Ravan, D6, and many more. --- With this background, I have discovered that ARR gives many genres of music and some genres I just don't like, can't like, whether it is by ARR or by anyone else. So, I hope members should take some time to think it over about themselves. 1. Please find out which genres of music you DO like. 2. Please find out which genres of music you DON'T like. 3. Now, think of ARR's songs that you DO like and find out whether these are in the genre that you like that you listed in 1 above. 4. Also, think of ARR's songs that you DON'T like and find out these are in the genre that you DON'T like that you listed in 2 above. I am sure it will give you some insights why you like some ARR songs/ albums, and why you don't like some other ARR songs/ albums. I am also sure that it will give you some peace (not piece, ha ha ha) of mind coming to terms with your liking and disliking ARR's and others' songs/ albums. Don't torture urself condemning yourself when you don't like any of ARR's song/ album. It is OK. it is the genre that you don't like. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] I'm still loving Puli......
I have made a playlist of songs from Endhiran ,Puli,Ravan(an),VTV in a random order..wow wat a year we are having :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Subramaniam karthiksubbus...@... wrote: Same here. every time I finish listening to Enthiran, I want to go back to Puli one more time :) On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:59 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: As much as I'm struck with Enthiran, I'm still going to Puli a lot and loving it! Funny thing..I previously mentioned that Maham Maye was my least favorite on it? It has now become one of my favorites..what a trackvery impactful and full of punch and energy. The strings section is out of this world and makes the song brilliant. The magic of ARR..only he can pull a least favorite into a favorite in no time!
[arr] Re: endhiran - Inumulo / Irumbile
PS: If I dont see the name, I might mistake Khatija for Harini 15 years back. :) Please forward the message to AR. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: ARR is awesome in telugu in Inumulo O Hrudayam.. I think for this particular song he actually sounded better than the tamil version Irumbile.. specially when he sings.. poovaasanakochaadu; manmadhudai vachaadu.. Oo maramanishi / pudhiya manitha is a clear winner.. grand, innovative; SPB is perfect and Khatija is equally soothing and innocent. Wonder why is SPB missing in hindi version. It is interesting to see how ARR switched the male and female tunes in charanam-1 to female and male tunes in charanam-2 of kilimanjaro. PS: If I dont see the name, I might mistake Khatija for Harini 15 years back. Regards Raghu
Re: [arr] Endhiran - pudhiya manidha instrumental
Thulasi, I also got connected to Kaushik thro AR fan grp. Myself,thulasi,Kaushik are all from same college got connected thro our grp :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: ofcourse it does Kaushik! also, heard roja theme. excellent stuff. reconnecting to yet another college friend of mine thru ARR group. i can remember those days when we used to chat about ARRs parthale paravasam songs and the sheer beauty of manmadha maasam song. memories!!! keep ur instrumental stuff flowing. worth an effort to say the least... On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Kaushik Srenevasan ksreneva...@...wrote: Hi, I did a short instrumental of pudhiya manidha which I've posted here - http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4784389?play_now=true. I was really fascinated by the synth programming on this song and had to try myself :-) I hope it sounds atleast a little like the original. -Kaushik
[arr] Re: best choreographed song ?
dil se chaiyya chaiyaa, veerapandi kottaiyile, chinna aasai, roja janeman,pudhu vellai mazhai are tough competitors --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jason Bourne rahmani...@... wrote: Was watching the Mukkala song the other day on TV followed by Ooh la la la . The chorepgraphy and picturisation of both songs were awesome. Just wondering what song you guys think is the best choreographed. :) -- Wit beyond measure is mans greatest treasure
[arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL
Probably kids ( like me :) ) who dont listen to english pop music ( /bubble gum pop ) love this song.. I dont listen to anythng other than tamil ,hindi ( sometimes telugu ). And I love irumbil to the core. Also, there is another reason to love this song: Lyrics. Simply wonderful words by karky,kashy,krish. Agree that its not a song with complex tune but still awesome stuff and my pick of the album. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: I agree with Gomzy and WiredBeatsIrunbile sounds too cliche and bubble gum poppish for my taste. However, I recognize how many people here are loving that song and I'm glad they are! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Irumbile sounds a little annoying if you have a very good audio system. especially on some good earphones. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Kalyan K kalyankin@ wrote: Loving Irumbile... Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Rajesh Kumar srk2381@ wrote: Agree agreeIrumbile is my pick too -- *From:* Thulasi Ram karokelip@ *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 1, 2010 11:57:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL irumbile is my pick in the album. that song does it all for me. stupendous stuff and ARR singing it is the highlight. different shade to his unique voice - like the way he sung MJs 'black or white' in the concert. i wish pudhiya manidha had more of SPB - like extended SPB portions. it wud have been a treat as well. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM, viswa bharathy piotheitkid@ yahoo.compiotheitkid@ wrote: yeah i too lik Irumbile a lot.. http://www.glitter-graphics.com/myspace/text_generator.php --- On *Sun, 8/1/10, Subramanian sub_ram_anian@ yahoo.comsub_ram_anian@ * wrote: From: Subramanian sub_ram_anian@ yahoo.com sub_ram_anian@ Subject: [arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 7:58 PM I beg to differ with your view points on Irumbile Oru Idhayam. Its not a masterpiece and its not my favourite in the soundtrack, yes but it is definitely not noisy or weak. In my opinion, its a typical AR techno song like Yaakai Thiri or Shano Shano and I like the feel of it. Trust me I hated both Yaakai Thiri and Shano Shano when I first listened to them. Though Shano Shano just managed to become a song I liked in the album, Yaakai Thiri became my favourite in Aayitha Ezhuthu. Just listen to Irumbile Oru Idhayam a few more times. I am sure it'll grow on u. And looks like AR has created this to satisfy one major portion of the Rajini fan following- Kids. I am sure kids would get addicted to this song.. Jai Ho! SubRAHMANIAN --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I agree with you...too hyped and the Rahman sung techno song is my least favorite. And yes, the songs that you mentioned are the strongest for me too and I'm also loving Armima. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, omindia1977 omindia1977@ wrote: Enthiran is good...too hyped up though.. .The A.R. Rahman song with Kash n Krissy is the weakest. Its too noisy, almost like a remix. Furthermore, not diggin' the chorus song, Arima Arima, yet, however Im sure it will Grow. Kilimanjaro, Intro Song, Kadhal Anukkal are the picks so far.. Also, to Mr. Fazil Anand, Please Do Not write in all Capitals or you will feel the wrath of this group. Reference Message #138465, for a brilliant explanation by the smartest man alive, Mr. Roshan.. .. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, fazil_anand fazil_anand@ wrote: HI ALL FIRST OF ALL LET ME WISH U ALL A VERY HAPPY FRNDSHIP DAY... HRD ALL D SNGS OF ENDHIRAN I TEL U I ABSOLUTELY LUVD ALL D SNGS... DIS ALBUM IS WIDOUT A DOUBT ANOTHER FEATHER IN ARR's CAP... BRILLIANT MINDBLOWING COMPOSITIONS. .. I JUS LUVD KADHAL ANUKKAL A LOT... TS SUCH A WONDERFUL SONG DAT EVERYTHNG ASSOCIATED WID D SNG IS OUTSTANDING. .. ARR'S MUSIC, VJ PRAKASH SHREYA GHOSHAL'S SINGING AM SURE LYK AL D SNGS DIS SNG WIL STAND TALL FOR ITS PICTURISATION BY D MASTER DIRECTOR SHANKAR... WATS UR TAKE ON DIS PARTICULAR SONG GUYS??? POST IN UR VIEWS!!! HAIL ARR!!! ANAND -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Ranking Rahman's 2010 tamil soundtracks thus far
subject says Only Tamil :) if only tamil mine is 1) Endhiran 2) VTV 3) Ravaan Overall 1) Endhiran 2) VTV 3) Ravaan 4) Puli --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jayan jayan...@... wrote: Where is Puli standing? Jayakrishnan --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Rajesh Kumar srk2...@... wrote: From: Rajesh Kumar srk2...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking Rahman's 2010 tamil soundtracks thus far To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 9:25 PM  Mine is  1) VTV 2) Endhiran 3) Raavanan From: Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo. com To: A R arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 3:50:09 AM Subject: [arr] Ranking Rahman's 2010 tamil soundtracks thus far  My list will be 1) Raavanan 2) VTV 3) EndhiranÂ
Re: [arr] How Endhiran stacks up against the rest of the ARR-Shankar Combo Soundtracks
1)Gentleman 2)Kadhalan 3)Jeans 4)Indian 5)Mudhalvan 6)Endhiran 7)Boys 8)Sivaji --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Tough one. Mine will probably be, 1)Kadhalan 2)Gentleman 3)Jeans 4)Boys 5)Sivaji 6)Mudhalvan 7)Indian 8)Endhiran @ the bottom right now but is likely to move up with time. From: vimaljk vima...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 1 August, 2010 22:31:37 Subject: [arr] How Endhiran stacks up against the rest of the ARR-Shankar Combo Soundtracks Jeans Kadhalan Indian Boys Endhiran Mudhalvan Gentleman Sivaji at #5 just behind Boys (it may move up once I see the movie and how the songs are used)..what do you guys say??
[arr] Re: Dilse....by far #1
ok..Attn Gomzy...there is one more person :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, amj_abdul amj_ab...@... wrote: Guys, even these days when I listen to the songs from the movie dilse I'm gettin kinda excitement that I cannot explain. They still sound FRESH, NEW, INNOVATIVE...no anyother composer can give better than this one even for the days to come. Yet I feel even ARR himself never broke his own record so far.
[arr] Re: What I feel about Endhiran...
Hey you missed boom boom robo da..Not listening to it eh? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@... wrote: Thought of sharing my feelings about the songs... Puthiya Manitha...Rocking Techno Stuff!!! Khatija's voice is straight from heart...Excellent variations by SPB... Kadhal Anukkal...This song is composed so tightly that you just don't want to end the song!...Scintillating interludes...The way Vijay Prakash starts the song is so stylish...No words to express Shreya Goshal's voice... Irumbile Oru Idhayam...Very futuristic...AR's vocals are stylish particularly when he reaches high pitch... Arima Arima...Elegant, Energetic, reverberating!! Just displays the Grandeur of Rajini... Kilimanjaro...Thumping beats! Amazing vocals by Javed ali and Chinmayi...Tribal vocals suit well... Chitti Dance...Each musical genre competing with each other...End result - Treat to our ears!! Something never tried before...Rap by Pravin mani is excellent... Innovative lyrics in many places...Kudos to Vairamuthu sir, Pa. Vijay, and Karki... Endhiran songs - In one word - A Revolution in Indian film music! Thank you so much sir for treating us again!!! Kudos to the entire unit who has put their hard work in bringing out this grand package!!! -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Endhiran - Initial Reactions - Mixed Feelings
To me it works big time. Long time since I have liked a AR album rite away. General public reaction is also very very positive. As per a few reports the albums sales are sky rocketing:) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Same here, Chord. The songs aren't my cup of tea. Finding it difficult to connect to the album but I am loving Kadal Anukkal. I am not sure if noisy is the word but perhaps loud and busy, I feel. Like you, I am missing a Sahara in the album. Would have loved a full-on melody in this soundtrack. I could connect much more to Raavanan and VTV and perhaps even Sivaji. Despite this, I think the soundtrack delivers to the mass appeal required for a Rajni movie and now a Rajni-Shankar movie. It's a full-on commercial package taking into account the cast and crew's image. Really happy that it works for lots of people on here. Looking forward to connecting to this soundtrack more. From: AJ purev...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 31 July, 2010 17:08:11 Subject: [arr] Endhiran - Initial Reactions - Mixed Feelings Just got a listen to the whole album. Mixed feelings.love some thingsdidn't like other things. 3-4 songs are outstanding.rest seem kind of filler, though bright in spots. Inconsistent, hodge podgy and too noisy in places, though bold and fit for a Rajini movie. Very massy and entertaining with a lot of classy elements too. Didn't like the retro 80s electronica sounds..way too cheesy...Rahman could have used more progressive, contemporary electro sounds and sound effects (except for the first song which did sound very contemporary and progressive!) Oh, and I also could not catch onto melodies, though they are therehard to remember and hum melodies, unlike what we heard in Sivaji along the lines of Sahara. Will write a more detailed review once I listen to the songs at least several more times, absorb them better after several days.
[arr] Re: Enthiran
I expected this mail bit earlier.Yawn. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sriramvr_in sriramvr...@... wrote: definitely this is no where in the leagues of previous ARR-Rajini combos. ARR's lack of time has shown again in this album. the songs related to robot sounds amateurish and ARR would have just rushed through them! The robot songs have killed this album.
[arr] Re: JUST FOR FAZIL OTHERS..ONE DAY DEDICATED - EVERYONE RIGHT IN CAPS. EOM
Again , I am a fan of ur sense of humour :)
[arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL
I love it and a friend of mine listens only to Irumbil as he cant get past this song :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Irumbile Oru does not do it for me and probably won't in the future, but I can see how the youngsters will love it. Glad for those who enjoy it and I'm sure the song suits in the film. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Subramanian sub_ram_anian@ wrote: I beg to differ with your view points on Irumbile Oru Idhayam. Its not a masterpiece and its not my favourite in the soundtrack, yes but it is definitely not noisy or weak. In my opinion, its a typical AR techno song like Yaakai Thiri or Shano Shano and I like the feel of it. Trust me I hated both Yaakai Thiri and Shano Shano when I first listened to them. Though Shano Shano just managed to become a song I liked in the album, Yaakai Thiri became my favourite in Aayitha Ezhuthu. Just listen to Irumbile Oru Idhayam a few more times. I am sure it'll grow on u. And looks like AR has created this to satisfy one major portion of the Rajini fan following- Kids. I am sure kids would get addicted to this song.. Jai Ho! SubRAHMANIAN --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I agree with you...too hyped and the Rahman sung techno song is my least favorite. And yes, the songs that you mentioned are the strongest for me too and I'm also loving Armima. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, omindia1977 omindia1977@ wrote: Enthiran is good...too hyped up though...The A.R. Rahman song with Kash n Krissy is the weakest. Its too noisy, almost like a remix. Furthermore, not diggin' the chorus song, Arima Arima, yet, however Im sure it will Grow. Kilimanjaro, Intro Song, Kadhal Anukkal are the picks so far.. Also, to Mr. Fazil Anand, Please Do Not write in all Capitals or you will feel the wrath of this group. Reference Message #138465, for a brilliant explanation by the smartest man alive, Mr. Roshan --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fazil_anand fazil_anand@ wrote: HI ALL FIRST OF ALL LET ME WISH U ALL A VERY HAPPY FRNDSHIP DAY... HRD ALL D SNGS OF ENDHIRAN I TEL U I ABSOLUTELY LUVD ALL D SNGS... DIS ALBUM IS WIDOUT A DOUBT ANOTHER FEATHER IN ARR's CAP... BRILLIANT MINDBLOWING COMPOSITIONS... I JUS LUVD KADHAL ANUKKAL A LOT... TS SUCH A WONDERFUL SONG DAT EVERYTHNG ASSOCIATED WID D SNG IS OUTSTANDING... ARR'S MUSIC, VJ PRAKASH SHREYA GHOSHAL'S SINGING AM SURE LYK AL D SNGS DIS SNG WIL STAND TALL FOR ITS PICTURISATION BY D MASTER DIRECTOR SHANKAR... WATS UR TAKE ON DIS PARTICULAR SONG GUYS??? POST IN UR VIEWS!!! HAIL ARR!!! ANAND
Re: [arr] Puthiya Manidha - The introduction song
I agree Oruvan Oruvan song is THE BEST ever intro song of Rajini`s and others too :) Mathan Raj A --- On Sat, 31/7/10, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Puthiya Manidha - The introduction song To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 31 July, 2010, 6:17 PM Nothing can beat Oruvan Oruvan !! Nothing !! as far as Rajni intro goes ! On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail. com wrote: i dont think so. oruvan oruvan is extraordinary. .. On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:04 AM, mohammed sajin mnsa...@yahoo. com wrote: I think Puthiya Manidha is the best introduction song in a Rajni film ever had. But I doubt, how the Rajni fans going to receive this particular song. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Re: aamir khan , ar rahman
He wud have signed few other films before they approached him.Though AR wants to do, he cant, as he wud have already signed smthng else even if the film is less interesting than dhobi ghaut. Btw, after oscars, AR has already said that he needs to finish all his current commitments to do some Hollywood projects. So I guess he is not doing any Indian films till he finishes a few hollywood films. Perhaps, thats the reason he is not part of shankar's next. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@... wrote: I am surprised to know that Gustavo Santaolalla is doing Dhobi Ghaat. he has done some good work in Babel. and I can see that Aamir ropes in some big names for his projects. the wikipedia page says Aamir approached ARR first but he declined due to his schedule. I must say he shouldn't have declined. for me it is better to decline any other India director's movie to do Aamir's (any director's except Mani). /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: ARR has very less time for parties. By the way, this composer (Gustavo Santaolalla) is also a 2 time OSCAR WINNER! This is his first Indian film. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Hameed Akbar shahul.ab@ wrote: Caps is yelling.. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Roshan c.pixels@ wrote: What is wrong with capitals ? When text is set in all capital letters, reading speed is slowed about 13 to 20 percent. Reading speed is optimal when uppercase and lowercase letters are used. When extra emphasis is needed, bold has been found to be a better cue than uppercase. *A study of fonts designed for screen display.* Boyardski, D., Neuwirth, C., Forlizzi, J., Regli, (1998).CHI 98 Conference Proceedings, 87-94. in addition, using capital letters in emails is usually interpreted as yelling.. and it is also used for emphasizing a point. But when you write an entire email with your caps lock pressed all the way down.. it kind of become a silly mail. if you want to read more on readability and usability - http://www.stcsig.org/usability/topics/readability.html On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:20 AM, omindia1977 omindia1977@wrote: WHAT IS WRONG WITH CAPITALS? I LIKE CAPITALS!Anyways, thanks for the responsesA few more points...I understand A.R. is busy, however I hope he doesnt waste his time in the future with these concerts...because, I believe, he missed out on some prestigious projects because of them, such as Gowarikars next, possibly Aamir Khans next, and a few others...also, as an earlier post suggested, 2 hindi, 2 tamil, and 2 english would be a perfect blend...1 album every 2 months or so.posting is fun! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Rivjot rivjot@ wrote: Do you think ARR has time to attend (introduction) parties? Aamir probably did invite ARR, but ARR must have been busy. Even if he didnt invite, how come that leads to any 'fall out'? Also, please dont write in capitals. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, omindia1977 omindia1977@ wrote: LONG TIME SILENT MEMBERSOMETHING HAS BEEN BUGGING ME, WHICH IS WHY I DECIDED TO POST.HAVE AAMIR KHAN AND A.R. RAHMAN HAD A FALLING OUT? I DO NOT SEE ANY MENTION OF A.R. IN ANY AAMIRS NEW HOME PRODUCTIONS, AND WHEN AAMIR INVITED ALL OF BOLLYWOOD, INCLUDING SEL, AND SHANTANU MOITRA, TO MEET HIS NEW COMPOSER FOR DHOBI GHAAT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF A.R. BEING INVITEDNOT A BIG DEAL I GUESS, BUT I AM A HUGE FAN OF BOTH.AND SOME OF HIS BEST CAME FOR AAMIR KHAN PRODUCTIONS, (LAGAAN, JTYJN).. ALSO, LOOKING FORWARD TO ROBOT, EVEN THOUGH DONT UNDERSTAND TAMIL THANKS -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: Endhiran - ARR Fulfilled Shankar's Dream!
Good one Dass :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, dass madetou...@... wrote: Puthiya Manithanaaga Boomiku Vanthu Kaadhal Anukalil Motha Azhagaiyum Kuzhaithu Kilimanjarovil Kaamam Kondaadum Chittiyin Minsaara Raththam Saerthu Irumbile Oru Ithayam Padaithu Arima Avathaaram Edukum Enthiranin Isai Prammaandathin Uccham! Enjoy the Grandeur of ARR's work in Enthiran!!!
Re: [arr] Delhi-6 Blue on Blu-Ray
Thanks for the info Rajib bhai. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: In simple words .. Blueray disk is just another disk which can hold from 25GB data to 500GB !! Normally between 25GB(Single layer) and 50GB ( Double layers) You need Blueray players to play these Disks ... Bluerays contains 1080p videos and Audio of max 8 channels ( max 28mbps ) in so many different formats such as DTS , DTS-HD , Dolby digital plus , dolby digital ,LPCM , Dolby trueHD etc etc !! The format depends on Mixing studios ,they can opt for any of these supporting format they want If i am to buy a Blue-ray disk and a blue-ray player the i will at first buy atleast a 20 inch monitor and 5.1 creative speaker..otherwise i wont be experiencing the magic of a blueray disk !! U dont actually need these to play a blue-ray disk but to enjoy it fully u must need them !! and about PC configuration ...i would say that an Dual core PC with an latest motherboard with 2GB of RAM will play these disks just fine !! Dont go for an old-school computer !! as these video's bit-rate can cross 40mbps easily !! Where an DVD's bitrate is about only 9.8mbps ! I think any latest video players can play a blue-ray disk !! as it's not actually a new thing ! try this *KMPlayerhttp://kmplayer.en.softonic.com/ * ( To Clarify AR has nothing to do with this video player ,,many people asked me if this video player is released by ARR , as i use it :P ) But i seriously doubt who will buy these movies Blue-rays ...Both can get the award of Worst film Ever made . !! and watching Indian movies on blue-ray sounds bit foolish to me ..as there wont be enough sound effects to fill all those 8 channels !! and these movies doesnt require all those Channels anyway !! atleast both these movies wont have it !! Robot might have ! To know more Visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_DiscJust read and be amazed :-) On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:25 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 7/31/2010 12:47 AM India Time, _Rivjot_ wrote: Delhi 6 Blue BDs to arrive on 2nd Aug by Moserbaer Price: Rs 799/- could someone please clarify technical issues related to it. What hardware do we need to play a blu ray disc? I think a normal pc/ lappy cd/dvd drive wudn't play this. And what software on a computer would we need for this? does blu ray plays in wmp or vlc or winamp? what exactly are technical superiority of a music/ film in blu ray? do we need addtional capability on monitor and music system to enjoy it? with such high rates, I don't think there will be many takers for it for now. thanks. -- You can also order online at moserbear website: Delhi-6 - http://www.moserbaerhomevideo.com/title-view.htm?titleid=6009 Blue - http://www.moserbaerhomevideo.com/title-view.htm?titleid=6900 Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Re:Hindi version of VTV?
Girls character is from Goa --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Rahul Menon rahuldavidbeck...@... wrote: Aakarsh Bhai Lets just hope that the girls char remains malayalee ... So tht v Can have Aaromale in the Hindi version also ... But who knows what GM has planned Lets Wait n See ... Rahul
[arr] Re: Kilimanjaro
Its a name of a mountain in Africa. Vairamuthu is known for using such words. So enthiran is my guess --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sriram Iyer sriramiye...@... wrote: Hmm! let me guess - Kili is parrot and manjaro is...?
Re: [arr] Download Endhiran Promo Sung by SPB [ Quality - Horrible ]
Please Promote Piracy ?! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Manaf mana...@... wrote: Dear Brother Please please promote piracy becoz all of us eagerly waiting for the original. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:33 AM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: http://www.mediafire.com/file/hvsy6u6cy62dowe/Enthiran_SPB_intro_Promo_Song_.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/file/hvsy6u6cy62dowe/Enthiran_SPB_intro_Promo_Song_.mp3Recorded on a mobile phone..then converted into mp3 ... So quality is very very bad !! :-( -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ -- Regards MANAF +97155 - 8914693
Re: [arr] No more Bollywood for Rahman! - only Hollywood movies
I strongly belive this news .. ARR --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Manaf ™ mana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Manaf ™ mana...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] No more Bollywood for Rahman! - TOI Article To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 4:16 PM where is gops. what did u mean with this question..? ARR has the rights of what to do and don't.. On 7/27/10, Naveen B arrma...@yahoo.com wrote: This was that I mailed and got me lot of emails to block me. No Movies then What LIVE shows. He also not doing shanker's new project? FANS must take this as a serious matter. Where is Gops? --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] No more Bollywood for Rahman! - TOI Article To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 3:39 PM Seriously concerned about such press articles and more concerned for editors who approve such baseless articles. Times of India as well. A friend of Rahman A source - in your dreams or what? Irresponsible journalism. From: Bivin Chandra bivinchandra@ yahoo.com To: AR Fans group arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, 27 July, 2010 8:32:05 Subject: [arr] No more Bollywood for Rahman! - TOI Article A R Rahman’s international career which has taken off in a biggish way after Slumdog Millionaire, keeps encountering snags, thanks to long-pending assignments back home. According to sources Rahman has to keep interrupting his international plans to be home for various pending assignments. The harried composer is now seriously thinking of putting all home-made assignments on hold to concentrate on building his career abroad, or else he feels he would lose the international advantage he obtained after Slumdog Millionaire. Says a friend of Rahman, “The Indian assignments after Slumdog Millioniare have been very time-consuming ,especially Raavan where Rahman not only had to do two versions of the music in Hindi and Tamil, but director Mani Ratnam also asked him to give 3-4 tunes for every lyric before one was selected. The music of Raavan took more time than Rahman could afford, with the result that other Indian assignments primarily Abbas Tyrewala’s untitled John Abraham-Pakhi starrer got left behind.” At the moment Rahman is back again in Chennai for mixing the music of Abbas’ film. But the background score of the film which releases in October is still be done. No one is admitting it, but one of the primary reasons why Tyrewala’s film got delayed is the music score which Rahman has been serving up piecemeal, for no fault of his , since the composer was committed to be out of the country for half the year for his world concerts. Says the source, “Rahman had to continuously keep breaking his international tours and other projects to be home for various reasons, like the music release of Raavan and other things. He has begun to feel that his international career would never take off if he has to keep returning home.” Abbas Tyrewala , in Chennai with Rahman for the mixing of his film’s music, jumps to the composer’s defence. “Yes Rahman has been a little tied up and therefore unable to deliver quickly. But that’s because he has to be constantly moving back and forth between India and the US. Raavan took much longer than Rahman thought. I’m not worried about my music. It’s almost done. Whatever time Rahman takes is finally worth the while.” In the meanwhile Rahman has not signed a single new assignment in Mumbai or Chennai in the last few months. After completing Abbas Tyrewala’s music Rahman will now focus on consolidating his career abroad. http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/entertainmen t/bollywood/ news-interviews/ No-more-Bollywoo d-for-Rahman/ articleshow/ 6222385.cms -- Sent from my mobile device Regards MANAF +97155 - 8914693 Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: Fw: [ARR]Here are the 3-Idiots in Tamil : YSR replaced ARR is it true?
guys, The following might happen soon as ARR has to work only in hollywood and need to sacrifice the followwing indian assignments. 1. no maniratnam movies going forward looks like ravanan has taken more time then boss expected and mani asked for 3 or 4tunes per song.. boss definelty would have got disppointed and movie also didnt do well ... 2. again split between shankar and boss like earlier happened during boys ..so shankar might permanantly look for another composer who can give quality of music with less time.. so he would have opted for YSR .. lokks Harriss might take long time for each film 3. goutham menon also might look for diffent composer becasue of ARR unavailabily.. so it is huge opertunity for YSR to grap the chance and come up well.. so arr loss is gain for YSR and harris in tamil film industry.. It would be good if boss continues to hollywood movies with big budget and regain the attention of west once again other wise west might forget ARR --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Arun Karthik arunkarthik1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Arun Karthik arunkarthik1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fw: [ARR]Here are the 3-Idiots in Tamil : YSR replaced ARR is it true? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 5:29 PM This is no a matter of split :) Rahman Ji has already been doing the concert and how can one expect to leave that and get in 4 a mve :( :( Nd u need more hits dan VTV RAVANAN PULI nd ENDHIRAN to come On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Naveen B b.navee...@ymail. com wrote: Again ARR+Shanker Split. Cant understand why ARR avoid this. If u dont have hits, how/ can ARR performs show. Using Old songs. Fans like me are really upset. We have to mention this to ARR. - Forwarded Message From: Chris Raj chris78_raj@ yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:54:11 PM Subject: [ARR]Here are the 3-Idiots in Tamil : YSR replaced ARR is it true? Here are the 3-Idiots in Tamil IndiaGlitz [Monday, July 26, 2010] Another going to be much hyped film of the year, the remake of Hindi ‘3 Idiots’, is taking shape as Shankar who is directing this bilingual is ready after completing his ‘Endhiran’. With a lot of imaginations already flowing from all corners it became clearer yesterday when Gemini Film Circuit finally confirmed that Shankar will be in charge of the south Indian remakes. Immediately after signing the project director Shankar went to Vijay and confirmed him for the Aamir Khan's role. Then Madhavan was confirmed for the same role he played in Hindi version. But there is still news saying Madhavan is not interested to do the role again. Whether he will be able to say no to a Shankar film is a question. For the third main lead Silambarasan aka STR is confirmed. Initially Jeeva was pushed to do this role but Shaknar has opted for STR. In Telugu, as per news available till now, Mahesh Babu will replace Vijay and Madhavan and STR are being retained for the Telugu also. And for music Shankar may have to leave A R Rahman out as he will be busy on his 'Jai Ho' World Tour all this year. Sources say Shankar has settled for Yuvan Shankar Raja this time. Another high profile film in the making. -- ARUN.K
Re: [arr] Naina Mile
Kangal Santhithane --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: thats the english translation farsad! On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... wrote: Eyes Meet ! On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:24 PM, mohammed sajin mnsa...@... wrote: I think Gopal changed his strategy. May be he is indirectly trying to tell about Endhiran song. Whats the tamil translation of 'Naina Mile'? SAJIN -- *From:* ARRvind arr_arv...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, July 21, 2010 12:02:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] Naina Mile Hmmm...we already had Naina Milaike in Saathiya now Naina Mile in the offing???!!! :) --- On *Tue, 7/20/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail. com* wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail. com Subject: [arr] Naina Mile To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 7:30 PM -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Blog review of Puli - Qn to ARR?
Ayaapa was done by Praveen mani. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: EVERYONE forgot ARR's Ayyappa deviotional from BOYS! It was in totally different. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:30 PM, jemsheed jemshee...@... wrote: All these prayer songs 'sounds' simlar.. very easy find.. dont know whasts the prblm in accepting it.. the fans only explains ARR is ready to accept criticism.. Using same raga and creating same mood for a same situation creates a repetitive environement.then whats the creativity here... hope next time ARR come up with a different 'type' of prayer song.. btb puli is enjoyable, massy, here and there flashes of AR's genius but his repetitions kills the mood.yep,puli for one or two months.. --- On *Sat, 17/7/10, AJ purev...@...* wrote: From: AJ purev...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Blog review of Puli - Qn to ARR? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 6:56 AM They are not the same tune, but similar raagas and similar moods. All these devotional songs do not share the same tune. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, jemsheed jemsheed_k@ wrote: Straight qn to ARR? Should there be only one tune, when a lady is praying to the God? Why does Rahman repeat the same tune be it in Lagaan, Swades, Jodha Akbar (interestingly all Ashutosh Gowarikar films), Connections and now in Komram Puli? --- On Thu, 15/7/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ Subject: [arr] Blog review of Puli To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 4:24 AM http://life- n-coda.blogspot. com/2010/ 07/komaram- puli.html It's been a long time since Rahman played to the gallery. He tried it in Blue and other recent ventures of his only to be caught between experimentation and cacophony. With S.J. Suryah, Rahman did get back to the balance that he used to maintain in his hay days of commercial cinema where the songs regardless of the experimentation were always foot tapping and catchy, pleasing everyone. Though the audacity of the director to don the grease pant was frustrating, it was sheer pleasure to witness them on silver screen with all the gloss and not the mellowed down situational ones where the songs were pushed to the background. But with Komaram Puli we will get to see Pawan Kalyan so the visual segment of the song will surely be entertaining. And the songs? Lets get to them one at a time. Power star (Vijay Prakash, Tanvi Shah) Techno songs are always not easy on ears. With Rahman at fore we know with the kind of experimentation (ring tones, car crash et all) it is bound to be bizarre. It starts with the drums beating to the well known police theme in Arabic influence fused with synthesized sounds creating and eery feel whispering `power star'. It's a cocktail of sorts after that, when the ream of lyrics patronizing the `Yuva star' moves from the electronic feel to folkish style, backed by the genre trademark `organ'. Any hero worship song from Rahman is not complete with the hai hai sound and here it is combined with blue blue cry, reminiscing us of the blue theme. The beauty of this cocktail is that after getting the grasp and when the familiarity sinks in, the peppy adulating lyrics and the intricate modulations especially whenever Vijay intensifies the mood as he acclimates to the top scale, grabs our attention. Amma thale (Naresh Iyer, Swetha Mohan)There is the celerity and then the melody. It seems to be repeating in loops. So what is this song? Doesn't it sound like it was poorly tacked together? If you stop right there, then you are going to miss something special. As we take that notion away, the celerity becomes a breathless travel into the nooks in whips, pacing our heart only to be soothed by the melody. But the melody now doesn't remain only that; it becomes more of a funny retaliation to the rambling antecedent and the fun increases with the curt notes of the violin trumpet. So what if the celerity is borrowed by thee kurugiya song from Kangalal Kaithu Sei with heavy accent from markandeya of New; when each complete note of that saranam layered using different instruments, attention turns to the variation that Swetha brings to the note joined later by Naresh. Though Naresh intensifies the tune to a great level, the na nana na hampers the flow, only to be saved by the faithful trumpet with which Naresh swiftly transforms the song into a classical one at the coda. Maaralante (A.R.Rahman KMMC Choir) Maaralante is a double treat in that it will become the anthem of Andhravalas and as a song that will
[arr] Re: Critics - Be Ware
/* we need no critics here..this is strictly a rahman fan group.. listen to songs why would you want to yap your opinion... well please mind that you opinion does not count.. */ Just a small clarification.. You dont want critics at all? or You dont want critics who are IR/HJ Fans? How abt someone who is a AR + IR + HJ fan? Would you mind their opinions as well? Hoestly Anil, I am disappointed to see such low levels of tolerance. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anil Kumar anil_2...@... wrote: For all the critics who fell its their duty to critiseize rahmans work just because you are fan of Nadeem shravan, Harris jayraj, ilayaraja or for that matter annu malik...man take a break..we need no critics here..this is strictly a rahman fan group.. listen to songs why would you want to yap your opinion... well please mind that you opinion does not count..
[arr] Re: 'Dochey' enormously growing on me
I felt it was better than Gangsta blues...but not my pick of the album till now. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin mnsa...@... wrote: After 20-30 hearing of the whole album. I cannot stop hearing the song 'Dochey'. Doesn't seems much of us are not counting this song as a top notch.
Re: [arr] Time lost for ARR
yes i agree with u... after SDM boos didnt try to give another big hit in west to prove that he is the best in west too another oscar,batfa,golden globe,grammy would be good to show west he is not just one time wonder !!!. i strongly belive if boss would have achieved all this awards with differnt hollywood movies it would be good to show that he is the best in west too this tour wouldnt provide what boss want to achieve in west !!.. this would be a time lost for ARR --raj --- On Wed, 7/14/10, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.com wrote: From: live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Time lost for ARR To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 3:52 AM I feel that this concert postponment or rescheduling has lost lot of time for ARR. Infact it is a pain, agony for fans who has been expecting a lot and looking to meet ARR LIVE. This time lost means, valuable time of ARR is lost. He could have signed Hollywood project or Indian project by now. There is no signing happening and no new movies in west and east. I feel ARR should calculate everything accordingly so that his time is not lost for waste. In the west, he has a good name after SDM movie, but he has not released anything to attract them after SDM. Couples retreat was not a big hit in the west to attract them. My only worry is ARR should not be told as a 1 time fluke md in west and he should prove who he is to the west by signing important projects which he will get fame and recognition. In india, also, we dont have much projects from him after this year. only 1800 love and Rockstart are there. no more releases after that. Sultan is a gone case. Please i request ARR to schedule these concerts accordingly so that his precious time is not wasted. Jai ho ARR.
Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
Sorry I should have been lot more specific. In ella pughazum, the place where AR sings 'Manavan manadhu vaithal mudiyathu enbathu illai...Kadal pol malai pol..' it comes around 3:02. The words appear more forced almost like reciting and looked to me at times it has been included becos the lyricist asked to. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@... wrote: Raj,the usage of L instead of U is deliebrate just for the sound of L and not because it doesn't fit, and whats with ella pugazum? --- On Mon, 7/12/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:56 PM Â True Phani..thats one small place where I would love to see change from AR's side. Lyric ( I mean the full word) should perfectly sit on the tune. Somtimes I find ARs choice to be forced. Ex: ATM's ella pughazum iraivanuke. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ wrote: Your second point is not new...many other lyricists (can't rem da lyrics but many of keeravani songs)also done this usage of syllable L instead U like mutyal for mutyalu..the same is done in shivaji also..puvvalle muvval muvval..AR gives more importance on da sound of the lyric than the lyric..I think --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: From: Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:43 AM ÃÂ Honestly, the language is barely understandable in most of the songs (except for Nammakame). Pronunciation is flung out of the window. Come to think of it, there is not even a single singer in the album, whose mother tongue is Telugu. So I guess language issues and pronunciation issues are bound to happen. The singers might be talented (Vijay Prakash or Shreya), but unless they have a language coach, they cant get the diction right. The lyrics as such are not comprehend-able. Even when some lines are comprehend-able, they rendition went for a toss. Sample these: 1. Noti Muthyaal Jaarneeyakey - It should have been Noti Muthyaalu Jaaraneeyakey. The way it was sung - Muthyaal or jaarneeyakey or Navvrathnaal (it should have been Navvu ratnaalu).. it sounds totally accentized/angliciz ed. Anyone who understands Telugu will cringe and it obstructs the enjoyment of the song. 2. Maa Te-Lu-Gu Tha-lli-keee - I was really uncomfortable with the way it was broken. Otherwise, I tried hard to understand the lyrics. Jaaved Ali also seemed like a totally wrong choice for that song. His diction was totally un-telugu. Among all singers, I think only Chitra knows Telugu (though she is from Kerala...), out of experience. Thats quite sad, because it might be an ARR album, but ultimately, it is a Telugu film and One would like to understand what is being sung. To sum up, I wish this album came in Tamil(because I dont understand Tamil). Because It is easy to listen to a language that we cannot understand, than to listen to a language we know and still cant follow or rather cringe at the butchering of the language with accents, robbing the whole nativity that is essential. My 2 cents! Regards Aakarsh ÃÂ ÃÂ --- On Mon, 7/12/10, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo. com wrote: From: live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo. com Subject: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:34 AM ÃÂ Dear telugu speaking fans, ÃÂ Since theÃÂ Puli audio is out, for the benefit of non-telugu speaking fans, i request you to post the meaning of each song, if not the literal line by line translation. it would really benefit us by knowing what is sung in the song, rather than plainly hearing it. ÃÂ - Your regards ÃÂ
[arr] Re: Most Underrated ARR Albums
National award winning Kannathil Mutthamital underated? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: Most Underrated ARR Soundtracks -albums that deserve(d) more acclaim/popularity that they got/have Uzhavan Kabhi Na Kabhi En Swaasa Katre Kannathil Muthamittal Kangalal Kaidhu Sei (one of ARR's top 5 albums imo) Tehzeeb Udhaya Varalaru Blue Couple's Retreat (I'm from America...and let me tell u...if Sajna were released as a single it would've been a rage)
Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
Ok. I felt that AR was reciting it because the lyricist sort of wanted the lyrics to be included forcefully.At first few listens, I didnt enjoy that section of the song and then kind of got used to it. Another example that immediately comes to mind was Snegidhane from Alaipayuthe. The starting portion which goes 'Netru mun iravil'. Another example from the same Alaipayuthe ..Yaro Yarodi ( chalka chlaka ) comes at 1:07 where the lines are hardly audible. the lines sounded something like 'igi bole ... inthiranar panthadika..' After that the understandable portion would be 'Santhapottu Azhagiyaum'.the two lines in between were hard to understand.The problem was not the music or heavey intsruments but sort of inappopriate tamil words picked for the tune. Anyways, I always respect your opinion Fani and happy to have your views on this topic. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@... wrote: Dude..the meter is perfect..yeh hes reciting only..theres hardly any tune for the lyrics --- On Tue, 7/13/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:28 AM  Sorry I should have been lot more specific. In ella pughazum, the place where AR sings 'Manavan manadhu vaithal mudiyathu enbathu illai...Kadal pol malai pol..' it comes around 3:02. The words appear more forced almost like reciting and looked to me at times it has been included becos the lyricist asked to. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ wrote: Raj,the usage of L instead of U is deliebrate just for the sound of L and not because it doesn't fit, and whats with ella pugazum? --- On Mon, 7/12/10, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote: From: raj arr_nagaraj@ Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:56 PM àTrue Phani..thats one small place where I would love to see change from AR's side. Lyric ( I mean the full word) should perfectly sit on the tune. Somtimes I find ARs choice to be forced. Ex: ATM's ella pughazum iraivanuke. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ wrote: Your second point is not new...many other lyricists (can't rem da lyrics but many of keeravani songs)also done this usage of syllable L instead U like mutyal for mutyalu..the same is done in shivaji also..puvvalle muvval muvval..AR gives more importance on da sound of the lyric than the lyric..I think --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote: From: Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:43 AM ÃâàHonestly, the language is barely understandable in most of the songs (except for Nammakame). Pronunciation is flung out of the window. Come to think of it, there is not even a single singer in the album, whose mother tongue is Telugu. So I guess language issues and pronunciation issues are bound to happen. The singers might be talented (Vijay Prakash or Shreya), but unless they have a language coach, they cant get the diction right. The lyrics as such are not comprehend-able. Even when some lines are comprehend-able, they rendition went for a toss. Sample these: 1. Noti Muthyaal Jaarneeyakey - It should have been Noti Muthyaalu Jaaraneeyakey. The way it was sung - Muthyaal or jaarneeyakey or Navvrathnaal (it should have been Navvu ratnaalu).. it sounds totally accentized/angliciz ed. Anyone who understands Telugu will cringe and it obstructs the enjoyment of the song. 2. Maa Te-Lu-Gu Tha-lli-keee - I was really uncomfortable with the way it was broken. Otherwise, I tried hard to understand the lyrics. Jaaved Ali also seemed like a totally wrong choice for that song. His diction was totally un-telugu. Among all singers, I think only Chitra knows Telugu (though she is from Kerala...), out of experience. Thats quite sad, because it might be an ARR album, but ultimately, it is a Telugu film
Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
True Phani..thats one small place where I would love to see change from AR's side. Lyric ( I mean the full word) should perfectly sit on the tune. Somtimes I find ARs choice to be forced. Ex: ATM's ella pughazum iraivanuke. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@... wrote: Your second point is not new...many other lyricists (can't rem da lyrics but many of keeravani songs)also done this usage of syllable L instead U like mutyal for mutyalu..the same is done in shivaji also..puvvalle muvval muvval..AR gives more importance on da sound of the lyric than the lyric..I think --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote: From: Aakarsh aakarsh...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:43 AM  Honestly, the language is barely understandable in most of the songs (except for Nammakame). Pronunciation is flung out of the window. Come to think of it, there is not even a single singer in the album, whose mother tongue is Telugu. So I guess language issues and pronunciation issues are bound to happen. The singers might be talented (Vijay Prakash or Shreya), but unless they have a language coach, they cant get the diction right. The lyrics as such are not comprehend-able. Even when some lines are comprehend-able, they rendition went for a toss. Sample these: 1. Noti Muthyaal Jaarneeyakey - It should have been Noti Muthyaalu Jaaraneeyakey. The way it was sung - Muthyaal or jaarneeyakey or Navvrathnaal (it should have been Navvu ratnaalu).. it sounds totally accentized/angliciz ed. Anyone who understands Telugu will cringe and it obstructs the enjoyment of the song. 2. Maa Te-Lu-Gu Tha-lli-keee - I was really uncomfortable with the way it was broken. Otherwise, I tried hard to understand the lyrics. Jaaved Ali also seemed like a totally wrong choice for that song. His diction was totally un-telugu. Among all singers, I think only Chitra knows Telugu (though she is from Kerala...), out of experience. Thats quite sad, because it might be an ARR album, but ultimately, it is a Telugu film and One would like to understand what is being sung. To sum up, I wish this album came in Tamil(because I dont understand Tamil). Because It is easy to listen to a language that we cannot understand, than to listen to a language we know and still cant follow or rather cringe at the butchering of the language with accents, robbing the whole nativity that is essential. My 2 cents! Regards Aakarsh   --- On Mon, 7/12/10, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo. com wrote: From: live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo. com Subject: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:34 AM  Dear telugu speaking fans,  Since the Puli audio is out, for the benefit of non-telugu speaking fans, i request you to post the meaning of each song, if not the literal line by line translation. it would really benefit us by knowing what is sung in the song, rather than plainly hearing it.  - Your regards Â
Re: [arr] Namakame.....is the only song I love in Komaram Puli
Chord..Please STOP writing in CAPS. We can tolerate only ONE member. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Oh, I SEE that you don't LIKE Namakame because you think it DRAGS! Well, most here would DISAGREE with you as MOST LIKE it! You probably DON'T LIKE such SONGS in the FIRST place! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: Actually NAMAKAME tune is dragging and runs DIRECTIONLESSly... The OTHER tunes just ROCK!! On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:20 AM, deven_avin deven_avin@ wrote: Namakame soulful
Re: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans...
There are many times where I feel knowing the language actually spoils the fun, especially when the lyrics are bad or when badly pronounced. So many times I prefer listening to a track in not my mother tongue.One album i didnt like simply becos of non toleratable lyrics was Sakkrakati. In that sense I am happy that Puli was in telugu instead of tamil. Sadly,Other than Vairamuthu ( though ravaan was not upto the high standards he set ), some occasional good work from Na.MuthuKumar,Thamarai rest are not impressive atleast to my ears and heart. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh...@... wrote: Honestly, the language is barely understandable in most of the songs (except for Nammakame). Pronunciation is flung out of the window. Come to think of it, there is not even a single singer in the album, whose mother tongue is Telugu. So I guess language issues and pronunciation issues are bound to happen. The singers might be talented (Vijay Prakash or Shreya), but unless they have a language coach, they cant get the diction right. The lyrics as such are not comprehend-able. Even when some lines are comprehend-able, they rendition went for a toss. Sample these: 1. Noti Muthyaal Jaarneeyakey - It should have been Noti Muthyaalu Jaaraneeyakey. The way it was sung - Muthyaal or jaarneeyakey or Navvrathnaal (it should have been Navvu ratnaalu).. it sounds totally accentized/anglicized. Anyone who understands Telugu will cringe and it obstructs the enjoyment of the song. 2. Maa Te-Lu-Gu Tha-lli-keee - I was really uncomfortable with the way it was broken. Otherwise, I tried hard to understand the lyrics. Jaaved Ali also seemed like a totally wrong choice for that song. His diction was totally un-telugu. Among all singers, I think only Chitra knows Telugu (though she is from Kerala...), out of experience. Thats quite sad, because it might be an ARR album, but ultimately, it is a Telugu film and One would like to understand what is being sung. To sum up, I wish this album came in Tamil(because I dont understand Tamil). Because It is easy to listen to a language that we cannot understand, than to listen to a language we know and still cant follow or rather cringe at the butchering of the language with accents, robbing the whole nativity that is essential. My 2 cents! Regards Aakarsh   --- On Mon, 7/12/10, live for arr Live livefor...@... wrote: From: live for arr Live livefor...@... Subject: [arr] Request to Telugu speaking fans... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:34 AM  Dear telugu speaking fans,  Since the Puli audio is out, for the benefit of non-telugu speaking fans, i request you to post the meaning of each song, if not the literal line by line translation. it would really benefit us by knowing what is sung in the song, rather than plainly hearing it.  - Your regards Â
[arr] Re: Types of movies I'd like ARR to work with
Awesome list.. In general, Comedy films dont have much scope for music.. So I dont wanna comedy. Agree with you on the rest especially a SRK Romantic film :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: only listing Indian-type movies here(I actually would like ARR to do more international work than Indian work, as he has accomplished all there is to accomplish in India!) -a sci-fi movie (this will be satisfied w/ Enthiran) -typical grand Shah Rukh Khan romance movie like Veer Zaara in Hindi..or a Karan Johar movie -hyper-realistic/gritty Tamil movie like Paruthi Veeran or Katrathu Tamizh -a family comedy-drama w/ Satyan Anthikad in Malayalam -an ACTUAL musical in India...where the actors sing themselves and the songs work as dialog..like SOund of Music or My Fair Ladyif this is American..i'd like it NOT to have any Indian elements (so ARR does not get typecast) what do u guys think...the reason I picked these is b/c there are types of films ARR has not done yet and I feel a lot of really cool experiments would come out of them!
[arr] Re: ARR Rare Pictures!!!
Awesome Share friend. Can we have one single flickr account or something to have all these rare pictures? Or Gopal, when time permits can you please add these rare pictures to the flickr account where you upload interviews? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Khan Amjath amj_ab...@... wrote: Hi friends, Some of our BOSS's young age hangout photos...Hope its already shared but people like me just ENJOY!!! Amjat Khan J.
[arr] Re: an humble try to cover vande mataram by my band
Awesome work. Please let us know about your future works. We are eager to listen them. All the best. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, souvik gupta aryan@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3xXIwznPlo my band performing our version of vande mataram in tcs kolkata .. its an humble try by me being a rahmaniac ,i dared to sing this one,my apologies to every rahmaniacs if my band have done something wrong...its dedicated to one and only A.R.Rahman for whome i am a musician today.
[arr] Re: ARR needs a Hindi hit
Btw, AR's tamil scene looks better. VTV a blockbuster and the biggest hit of the year so far. Ravanan has received much better reviews than Ravan. Enthiran is coming up :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: ARR's last 3 Hindi films...D6, Blue, now Raavan - Box Office Flops from what I hear. Says nothing about the music...songs from all 3 films rock. But, BO success does affect music appreciation to a degree, so I hope ARR's next Hindi venture will prove to be a BO hit.
Re: [arr] How Mani systematically killed ARR+Gulzar's great score
Gomzy, That kind of works with average audience, meaning the common people who are not used to subtle and matured BGMs. Best example is Harris Jeyaraj who creates loud BGMS more often than not but the people like it. Ex: Ghajini ( tamil ) , Vettaiyadu Vilayadu, Thotti Jeya, Kakha Kakha. Btw, I really like Guru bhai chants and thought Guru was one of the best BGM works of AR. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i am stepping on a dynamtie here but why is arrs score getting super load?! Guru, ghajini jodha akbar and now raavan Every time the hero is shown angry or highlighted this loud music is pumped in,. On 6/19/10, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: To say that AR Rahman has come up with a weak score is a terrible thing to say because the score for Ravaan is what makes it watchable in the end. The dramatic affect of the film would have not made any impact had the score not been so good. I can point 40 such instances in the film where the score made the movie impactful. So seriously..the critics need to give this a rest.. everyone had a comment on the film's so called flaws.. ever ventured in making a film yourself... may be you should TC, Matthew Islam On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@...wrote: There's no dearth of arm chair critics, is there? How many other Manis can one find? On Tue, Nov 6, 2007 at 00:59, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 6/19/2010 8:42 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: Surprisingly, AR Rahman delivers his most uninspired score in years, which probably explains why Ratnam wasn't inspired enough to shoot his songs as innovatively as he usually does. Another example of a critic putting the blame on wrong head. ARR's music is good, but if songs get used poorly, that is not ARR's, but the director's fault. SPOILERS ALERTS ARR's music appears misfit in the film, if that is what the reviewer meant, I agree with him. But the blame is on poor script of the film leading to a lack of confusion from the side of director that he didn't portray the characters with a certainty. In a wish to show changes of hearts, Mani has made a khichdi of characters and their personality traits, and that made the great purpose lyrics of Gulzar, thereby the music, become misfit. the characterisation of Beera is not shown such that he is not showing any class consciousness, not doing anything good for people or masses as such. All those long exchanges trying to prove that beera has 10 heads like ravan, meaning 10 personalities, fail to convince the viewers because we don't see beera doing things in tune with those 10 heads. His avenging his sister by torturing and be-arm-ing the runaway-groom is personal vandetta. surprising, when the to be groom gatecrashes the to be bride's house while marriage is going on, didn't you all notice all that exchange about cutting the hand that has touched beera's sister? then, what great new thing beera does by chopping the hand later on, when he could have cut the hand right there, so was his il-reputation? Does anyone remember Dayawan by FirozKhan, based on that smuggler's life? remember the scenes when Vinod KHanna was shown literally helping people in any many ways, and people crowding him, swarming him, singing praises for him. I think that was the proper display of a man of the mass. Mani, in ravan, failed to depict that. And that's why Beera as well as thok de killi, along with their depictions of 10 faces of beera, and along with door hai dilli not getting what we deserve, getting only crumbs, chheen ke le le apna hissa, all seems falsehoods and lies just because the visuals don't leave any such impression on the viewers. Thok de Killi is one of the rare songs so superbly penned by Gulzar saab, because you all know that gulzar is a man of emotional feelings of heart, and is not a person for thinking brain, Gulzar has never written social issue lyrics earlier, the way Sahir used to write, and here, when gulzar does debut as social issue lyricist and ARR gives appropriate music for that, it is mani that failed to make that greatness of lyrics and music get reflected in the film on account of poor script. khili rey, was a personal song, that was shot ok with nice steps shown by Aish, the song in the film didn't touch the heart of viewers the way Humse Hai Muqabla's small singing pieces had done. Firstly, this song had been shown in the running, whereas the song clearly hints a reaction, response of blossoming of a lady on her first encounter with a male, but the film shows all the long vocal bed scenes of Aish and Dev before that. The scene had so unimaginative boring dialoge that that was more of a comedy effect instead of the melting of the lady - the way it was superbly shown in Roza
Re: [arr] Raavan - What went wrong
I read in one of the 'unreliable' tamil forums( thatstamil.com) which quoted mani saying that Ravan ill be his last film and he plans to retire. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Guru gurur...@... wrote: That was exactly how I felt after watching it. Hoping Mani to come back again with a bang soon ! On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: totally agree with what you said and more but lets not get into this too muchthis is not a mani fan site is it now ? :) On 6/19/10, Rahmaniac himmathw...@... wrote: I havent read any review because of the spoilers and dont wanted to take anyone's view on the movie Before going to the movie, I told my friend that anyways I am gonna like the movie, because its Mani and AR. But I was wrong. There are several reasons for that. All the reviews use those complex english which I dont want to pullup a dictionary and understand :) 1) The movie is not boring, but its not engaging. 2) Its very illogical (complete baseless scenes) for example... 3) why aishwarya is in a boat, where she is going? (baseless) 4) why there were no people around beera in the climax scene (actual climax when dev chased his place by using ragini) 5) when beera has such huge tactics and people around, why he didnt abduct dev directly, when he was in the forest. atleast when dev kills his brother, he goes to dev's camp, explodes everything. this stunt scene was utter waste. people just come before the camera to be killed by dev's gun (stupid picturization, really!) 6) sometimes beera's place is in forest (where dev interrogates people) and sometimes it is in some decently developed village 7) why dev hates beera so much and vice versa (again no strong base) 8) why Dev shoots beera in the marriage 9) unnecessary imitating ramayana lot of times. what is the point?! (without imitating scene by scene, mani could have delivered the message) 10) songs usage was very bad..ila arun's ranjha ranjha spoiled the interest in the scene. normal version would be good. its not artistic people. its irritating! just dont say aahaa ohoo, just because we are fans 11) one of the scene (ragini praying to god (big idol), she was talking in the background with idol when beera is talking to her) 12) editing was terrible, throughout the movie 13) screenplay is not great as recent mani's movies 14) logic..logic..logic...what happened to mani? hope he does better next time 15) the movie is definitely commercial with sudden songs and dance sequences and I dont consider it as an art movie or artistic movie 16) how does ragini finds her way back after getting down in the train? and how many days it takes to come back? please stop praising and stop reading reviews, even mine...just go and watch the movie and let mani know what went wrong... he made the movie for us, not for himself...so we have the right to say... what is good? 1) photography and camera work 2) background score, o beera song at the end (someone please record with good quality...it comes while credits in full length) 3) aishwarya is beautiful without much makeup :) you dont have to look the movie from an artistic perceptive or partiality towards Mani. just dont praise, because we are fan of someone. let our idol know what went wrong. why he has to picturize such silly scenes just because he got best camera, best music, best lyrics..what happened to the best director. this is the first movie I quite didnt like from Mani. ~~Rahmaniac SURESH~~ -- www.gomzyphotography.com Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! Groups Links
[arr] Re: By the time people figure out whats wrong with Raavan its a hit
Making money and delivering a hit are 2 different things offlate. Blue made its money but is there anyone( outside our grp) who remembers blue and its music? Not many. On the other hand think of Rang de basanti, everybody says great film with one of the best music from AR. Whether it makes money or not, one needs to wait and see whether its a 'hit' or not. Reviews seem to be mixed. Indian Express has given 4 stars. One review of rediff 4 stars. TOI 3.5 stars. Public opinion even in our group is mixed. Gomzy, Rawat didnt like the film. Few others did. Note: Gomzy,Rawat didnt like even SDM. I think we altleast need to wait 1 week to know the result of the film. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats wiredbe...@... wrote: Movies work on means of arithmetic and not reviews. Its a function of numbers. Being such a huge film, By the time people figure out whats wrong with Raavan its a hit just by the number of theater guests. These days the metric of 25 days, 50 days is gone. Weekend openings matter because they do this carpet bombing of prints for the opening weekend. If the film opens at 70% occupancy for the opening weekend and sustains to 40 to 50% occupancy for the first week then the cost plus is recovered more or less, unless its a big budget film. I mean really big budget... Raavan will make its moneynow take your perceptions in your pocket -- Help me with the cause for my charity foundation - Cradle India Foundation . Donate at http://www.cradleindia.org or http://www.wiredbeats.com
Re: [arr] Rajeev Masand: 'Raavan' is a bore of a film
Rajeev was the brilliant person who said Dostana had better music than Yuvvraj :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: I doubt if someone else could have given a much more versatile and inspired score for RaavanBeera...Behne DeKhili ReKeda Kari...Ranjhathey are all oustanding and in their own leagueMy must have instead said the great music was not used very well in the filmBTW how many movie reviewers understand the nuances of the music while they watch the film! I have my doubts if Rajeev has a fine ear for music!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravisdev@ wrote: There was a reviewer Khalid Mohamed who wrote reviews and belted directors. But the 2 movies he did was utter disaster despite have good music. Its easy to comment than deliver. Dont give importance to reviews you may like or dislike but why miss something just because of believing what others had to say. Every human is gifted with a brain and thought to think. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, haris zeenath hariszeenath@ wrote: Surprisingly, AR Rahman delivers his most uninspired score in years, which probably explains why Ratnam wasn't inspired enough to shoot his songs as innovatively as he usually does.. --- On Sat, 19/6/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ Subject: [arr] Rajeev Masand: 'Raavan' is a bore of a film To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 19 June, 2010, 8:42 AM  Masand: 'Raavan' is a bore of a film Rajeev Masand , CNN-IBN Posted on Jun 18, 2010 at 21:29 | Updated Jun 19, 2010 at 00:23 83Share Free Movie Previews Watch Full-Screen, High-Res Movie Clips Trailers - Download Free! FilmFanatic. MyWebSearch. com Ads by Google Cast: Abhishek Bachchan, Aishwarya Rai Director: Mani Ratnam Sitting in your seat watching Mani Ratnam's Raavan unfold before you, is like craning your neck out of your car to catch a glimpse of the wreckage in a road accident on the other side. Filled with a perverse sense of curiosity, you can't take your eyes off the damage. Alas, Raavan - despite a relatively modest running time of 2 hours and 10 minutes - is a crushing bore of a film, a disappointment on virtually every count. In this rather literal adaptation of a slice of Hindu mythology, Ratnam casts Abhishek Bachchan as feared outlaw Beera who kidnaps the local police chief's feisty wife Ragini (played by Aishwarya Rai) in retaliation for a crime against a loved one. The tough cop Dev (played by Tamil star Vikram) sets out to get his wife back, making a journey into the dense forest, even as Beera finds his heart melting for Ragini. Never one to paint his characters black or white, Ratnam gives both Dev and Beera ambiguous character traits that make it hard to pigeonhole them as entirely good or bad. So Raavan-figure Beera has a conscience that stops him from having his way with Ragini although he desires her, and Ram-inspired Dev is so hell-bent on achieving his goal that he will resort to deceit and betrayal in order to get there. But what might have truly turned this film into a brave, daring effort is a less 'darpok' handling of Ragini's change-of-heart towards Beera. While she does soften considerably when she understands his provocation for revenge, Ratnam never quite turns it into a Stockholm-syndrome situation that might have made for a far stronger central conflict. As it currently stands, Raavan is a predictable revenge drama that stays too safe to ever surprise you. Despite some eye-watering camerawork and a stunning action piece in the film's climax, the film -- especially its first half -- is a carelessly edited mess of long scenes that make little sense when strung together. Abhishek plays Beera as an eccentric, unpredictable fellow prone to sudden outbursts; he channels Heath Ledger's Joker from The Dark Knight, but comes nowhere close to replicating a similar sinister charm. Aishwarya, despite being the film's leading lady and the very cause of the film's conflict, has nothing much to do. She's left to scream and shriek and hiss and spit out her dialogue while looking lovely in every frame. Surprisingly, AR Rahman delivers his most uninspired score in years, which probably explains why Ratnam wasn't inspired enough to shoot his songs as innovatively as he usually does. The director sticks so faithfully to the Ramayana that we get embarrassing scenes like the one in which the suspicious husband asks his wife to take a polygraph test to prove her purity. Other
Re: [arr] Why 'JAI HO-The journey home' is so important to ARR
I dont think so... Instead of this concert boss would have done some good hollywood movies and gain more popularity in hollywood.. --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Kalyan K kalyan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kalyan K kalyan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Why 'JAI HO-The journey home' is so important to ARR To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:43 PM Perfect Explanation Rajib. Thanks, Kalyan K. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:40 AM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail. com wrote: A.R.Rahman ( Slumdog Millionaire ) will Become A.R.Rahman after these concerts... in the newspapers , news websites ,tabloids etc over there... Hope that explains all !! On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:22 AM, mohammed sajin mnsa...@yahoo. com wrote: Dear All, In a recent interview, I heard ARR saying 'JAI HO-The journey home' would be a turning point of his career. Like Roja, Maa Tujhe Salaam, Bombay dreams, Lord of the Rings and SDM. Why it has that much importance? How it will boost up his career? .. definitely it can explore his career and become more familiar in West eventhough? It would be gr8, if someone elaborate. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Re: Tamil Anthem's Solo Singers list (in order of appearance)
Well done Rajib bhai.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: Solo Singers (in order of appearance) - T. M. Soundararajan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._M._Soundararajan - A. R. Rahman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._R._Rahman - Harini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harini - Chinmayi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinmayi - Karthik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karthik_(singer) - Hariharan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hariharan_(singer) - Shweta Mohan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shweta_Mohan - Yuvan Shankar Raja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuvan_Shankar_Raja - P. Susheela http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._Susheela - Srinivas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivas_(singer) - Vijay Yesudas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Yesudas - G. V. Prakash Kumar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._V._Prakash_Kumar - T. L. Maharajan - Bombay Jayashri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_Jayashri - Aruna Sairam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruna_Sairam - Nithyasree Mahadevanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nithyasree_Mahadevan - S. Sowmya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._Sowmya - Blaaze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaaze - Kash - M. Y. Abdul Ghani - Khajamoideen - S. Sabumoideen - T. M. Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._M._Krishna - Naresh Iyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naresh_Iyer - Gunasekharan - Shruti Haasan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shruti_Haasan - Chinnapponnu - Susheela Raman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susheela_Raman [edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semmozhiyaana_Tamizh_Mozhiyaamaction=editsection=6 ]Backing Vocals - A. R. Reihana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._R._Reihana - Benny Dayal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Dayal - Neha - Ujjayinee - Devan Ekambaram - Krissy - Nithin Raj - Saketh - R. Vijay Narayan - Dr. Narayan - Bhagyaraj - Subiksha - Anita - K. Renu - Maya Sricharan - Kalayani - Raqueeb Alam [edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semmozhiyaana_Tamizh_Mozhiyaamaction=editsection=7 ]Instrumentalists - A. Sivamani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivamani drumshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_kit , percussion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion - Purushotham tavil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavil - Natarajan nadaswaram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadaswaram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semmozhiyaana_Thamizh_Mozhiyaam -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Re: Hey guys Check out Aaromale Jessie Mix
Hi, Wonderful efforts. When I heard female version of aaromale, like all I felt it was awesome but I was missing shrushti shrushti hummming part on the female version.Your version gave exactly wat i wanted. Thanks a ton. Brillitant work. Can you please upload the mp3 of it in mediafire so that it can become the 9th song of VTV on my mp3player :) Regards, S.V.Nagaraj --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, director79k director...@... wrote: Hi, I would love to share this mix of aaromale that i have made... its not a remix and i hope you guys like it.Do give your sincere comments abt it and pls pass it on to other arrahman fans.I love the original song n hopefully i have only enhanced it and not ruined it. All credit goes to ARR for the inspiration. Thank you. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbn6y1U2LvU Cheers Kris
Re: [arr] Sukhwinder Singh Turns on the Energ y at ‘Jai Ho’ Concert
yes I too have the same doubt ... why sukhi is not been part of AR's troup... his contribution in jai ho song is huge... without suhki jai ho song wouldnt be good at any stage show.. AR using only female voice for jai ho ..since from oscar ceremony.. guys any news on this IS SUKHI's elimination is done by AR purpose fullyy??? raj --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder Singh Turns on the Energy at ‘Jai Ho’ Concert To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 6:45 PM so, there are two concerts named Jai Ho ? one by Sukhi and one by AR. also, does anyone know if he is part of AR's concerts ? He has been missing from all the Jai ho performances by AR. Strange! On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:27 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail. com wrote: Sukhwinder Singh Turns on the Energy at ‘Jai Ho’ Concert By LISA TSERING indiawest.com June 10, 2010 01:44:00 PM SANTA CLARA, Calif. — “Always leave them wanting more” is an old piece of show business advice that Bollywood singer Sukhwinder Singh took to heart June 6 at an outdoor concert held at Paramount’s Great America. Actress Tanushree Datta made a brief appearance, and the lineup included performances by “Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Little Champs” contestant Pawni Pandey; vocalist Ishmeet Narula; Punjabi singer Satinder Satti; and entertainer Sunny. The Mona Sampath Dance Company performed a high-energy medley, and Aero Dance offered up an Odissi performance set to the music of “Slumdog Millionaire.” The show, hosted by Kavita Arora and presented by Bikram Jeet Singh and Gary Bahl, featured a lengthy talent show segment titled “Jai Ho Idols” that spotlighted local performers. Out of 138 contestants, just three winners (in child/teen/adult categories) made the final cut: Saarthak Mehra, Pragathi Guruprasad and Rahul Lakhanpal, all confident and self-assured local artists with gorgeous voices. Sukhwinder Singh, the evening’s headliner, was onstage for less than an hour total during the “Jai Ho” concert held at the theme park’s Redwood Amphitheater. Though Singh — a seasoned entertainer and top-notch musician — packed his brief performance with the maximum excitement, many in the audience left disappointed that he did not sing some of his best-loved songs. Missing were “Chaiyya chaiyya,” “Ramta jogi” and “Chak de! India,” though he did perform an extended version of “Fashion ka jalwa” and a couple of songs by composer-director Vishal Bhardwaj — “Beedi” and “Kaminey’s” “Dan tana.” He also sang and danced to “Dard-e-disco,” “Aaj mere jee karda” and “Lucky kabootar.” Despite a history with A.R. Rahman that goes back 12 years, “Jai ho” was the only one of Rahman’s compositions that he performed. Singh burst onstage at around 9:45 p.m., nearly four hours after the show’s posted 6 p.m. start time, dressed in an eye-catching ensemble of golden leather harem pants and a sleeveless hooded sweatshirt, his skin liberally dusted in golden body paint. His expressive face, vibrant hand gestures and folksy sense of humor endeared him to the audience from the start, and some in the front rows even invited him to jump down off the stage into their arms. Singh even started to jump, too — and was quickly thwarted by stern-faced security guards, to the amusement and delight of the audience. “I’m not jumping! Promise!” he told the guard. Later, he tossed out teddy bears to the crowd. “Just a minute,” he said. “Let me take this price tag off; it’s very costly!” Singh shared a story about the recording of “Aaj mere jee karda” that proved to be an illuminating snapshot of the entire evening. He had been called by “Monsoon Wedding” director Mira Nair to record the song, and he showed up late to the recording studio. “This is a Hollywood project, not a Bollywood project,” admonished the Oscar-nominated director, who later caved in to Sukhi’s irrepressible charm and flattery and let him record the song. But Singh’s lateness is a habit that is starting to cause problems. The reason the show started late in the first place, said organizer Bikram Jeet Singh, was that Sukhwinder had missed an early morning flight from Washington, D.C. After arriving at the venue, Singh asked him to get out on stage as quickly as possible, but Sukhwinder wanted to get his costume and makeup on, said Singh. After performing for around 45 minutes, Sukhwinder told the audience that he was taking a “five minute break,” and he returned backstage. The break ended up lasting around 25 minutes and when Sukhwinder finally returned to sing “Jai ho,” his performance was cut short when the lights and sound system were abruptly switched off at 11 p.m. sharp. “He thought we could spare the time,” Bikram Jeet Singh told India-West
[arr] Re: Interview with Vairamuthu
Yes very true..sounded like some young guy..but still asked really matured questions..much better than many jurnos interviews --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin mnsa...@... wrote: And the interviewer is also good. He asked some sensible questions. From: Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 10:13:14 PM Subject: [arr] Re: Interview with Vairamuthu vairamuthu is a legend... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mohammed sajin mnsajin@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bN0Ys1ZuQU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RphmrAM43mQfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odpH6YH1JdEfeature=related
[arr] Re: Semmozhi Video Song - GOOD QUALITY
Awesome picturaisation from Gautham.. The video actually lifts the Song to greater heights. I am enjoying the song even more.Thanks for sharing. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, NSENTHIL kUMAR n_senthil...@... wrote: Semmozhi Video song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRR186LwMA enjoy !!! senthil
[arr] Re: Volume Track Differences between Beera and the two Veeras
Devan, Which were the old ARR CDS that have been released.. I have been looking for HQ in old AR albums like jeans,mudhalvan, pudhiya mugam, muthu etc. Please let me know where can i buy them. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Devan musilov4ud...@... wrote: Ya CD replication stage can also bring such changes in audio structure apart from mastering. Iam not an expert. Yet i can say that CD reproducing companies are bringing big changes in loudness of audio to make others feel that they are the best.Re-releases of many old ARR albums especially tamil is an evident of this. Sony music was a trusted one for long time. An expert's opinion here is a must. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats wiredbeats@ wrote: I dont know!..i really dont know why and how this happens. Ya the master will vary obviously because the language version varies. But why does that have an effect on the CD as such. I dont know. In fact i have observed this...that when a track is released in Label X and then the same track shows up in Label Y in a compilation disc, the sound varies. It must really be at the CD replication end. any expert opinions? May be Phani Kalyan can throw some light since he has recently sat through a masteing session for new film Pappu. Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbeats.com From: Devan musilov4udeva@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 26 May, 2010 9:35:59 PM Subject: [arr] Re: Volume Track Differences between Beera and the two Veeras Means T-series better than Sony??? Possibly that will be a result of seperate mastering in the studio for tamil and hindi versions. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats wiredbeats@ wrote: Not just veera. All tracks have that difference you mentioned. Especially Ranja Ranja sounds much better than the tamil version. I think its just because both the titles are from different companies. Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbeats.com From: AJ purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 25 May, 2010 11:45:31 PM Subject: [arr] Volume Track Differences between Beera and the two Veeras I have tested this many times on good speakers, through headphones, best sound quality, etc. and no doubt, there are distinct volume differences in some of the arrangement tracks between Veeras and Beera. Veeras' claps and bass lines are significantly louder, leading to a fuller sound throughout both versions of the Veera song (Tamil and Telugu), while the bass lines and claps in Beera are very low in volume, subued throughout the song. If you listen to the first minute of Beera, then the first minute of both Veeras, you will be able to tell the difference immediately. I referred to this in my overall review of the soundtrack, but this difference keeps coming up for me, esp. when I put Raavan and Raavanan on the same CD. I wonder why the differences in volumes between these versions. Please don't block this post. I'm not trying to start something about differences between Hindi/Tamil/Telugu, etc., not claiming one to be superior to the other, etc., but just commenting on these specific differences between the versions and wondering why ARR decided on this.
[arr] Re: Veera Veera too Short want More
First let us see whether we can get Jaa Ud jaa ..Then think of rest --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dana Nagadevan danamp2...@... wrote: Fans and Friends, Im just blown away by Veera Veera, I just feel like it would be more than a magic if we get to listen to a longer version of Veera Veera (Beera Beera). why dont we all write to Boss about this and ask for a longer version. Clip Art by Graphics Factory.com
Re: [arr] Need Thirakkadha (ESK) translation
Great work again boss!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srini Santhanam saint.si...@... wrote: Hey, I'm back again :) The song is about 2 lovers lost in the forest and falling in love with nature.. Here's the full translation. Will try and update the rest in a day or two. Cheers, Srini Mmm...Thirakkaadha Kaattukkullae Pirakkaadha Pillaigal Poalae Aanoam, Parandhoadum Maanaip Poalath Thoalaindhoadip Poanadhu Engal Naanam [We were transformed into unborn children in the deep forest Our shyness vanished like a galloping deer] Pattaamboochi Pattaamboochchi Vattam Podum Pattaamboochchi Oadi Vandhu Muththam Vaangich Chellu [Butterfly, Oh Butterfly, Oh Butterfly that circles around, Come and accept a kiss from me] Oadiyoadi Aalam Vizhudhil Oonjalaadum Otraik Kiliyae Kaattu Vaazhkkai Naattil Undaa Sollu [We can run and hang on the roots of the banyan trees, Can the cities ever have the charm of the forest] Andha Vaanam Pakkam Indha Bhoomi Sorggam Kaattil Ulavum Oru Kaatraagiroam [The sky is near and the earth feels like heaven We roam the forest like a gentle breeze] Nenjil Aekkam Vandhaal Kannil Thookkam Vandhaal Poovil Urangum Siru Paniyaagiroam, (Thirakkaadha) [If the mind ever longs for sleep We will sleep like dewdrops on a flower] Kaatroadu Moongil Kaadu Enna Paesudhoa Mannoadu Vizhigira Aruvi Enna Solludhoa Adhu Thannaich Cholludhoa Illai Unnaich Cholludhoa [What does the bamboo forest say to the breeze? What does that waterfall say when it falls to the ground? Does it talk about itself or does it talk about you?] Ada Pulveliyil Oru Vaanavil Vizhundhadhu Adhoa Adhoa Adhoa Angae Aiyaiyoa Vaanavil Illai Vannach Chiragugaloa Avai Vannach Chiragugaloa, Vaanavil Parakkinradhoa [Alas, a rainbow fell on the meadow There, there it is.. Oh is it a rainbow or are they colourful wings.. Is the rainbow flying in the air?] Azhagu Angae Ingae Sirikkinradhu - Pudhiya Kangal Nenjil Thirakkinradhu [(Nature's) Beauty is smiling everywhere and new eyes open inside my heart] Maegampoal Kaattai Naesi Meendum Naam Aadhivaasi Un Kangal Moodum Kaadhal Kaadhal Kaadhal Kaadhal Kaadhal Yoasi, (Thirakkaadha) [Love the forests like the Clouds do Here we become aborigines again.. Can you feel the love closing your eyes?] Kai Thottu Thattu Thatti Poovai Ezhuppu Kaatroadu Ragasiya Mozhigal Solliyanuppu Ada Enna Ninaippu Adhai Cholliyanuppu [Touch them with your hands and wake up the flowers Send your secret messages through the air Whatever you are thinking.. spread it through the air] En Kaaladiyil Sila Veedugal Nagarudhu Idhoa Idhoa Idhoa Idhoa Ingae Aahaahaa Veedugal Illai Naththaik Koodugaloa Avai Naththaik Koodugaloa, Veedugal Idam Maarumoa [Here beneath my legs, houses are moving.. Here, here they move? Are these house.. Oh they are snails Will the houses ever move?] Pudhiya Vaazhkkai Nammai Azhaikkinradhu Manidha Vaazhkkai Angae Verukkinradhu Naattukku Poottu Poadu Kaattukkul Oadiyaadu Pennae En Maarbin Meedhu Koalam Poadu, (Thirakkaadha) [A new life invites us to a place the mankind dislikes Lock the cities and roam around in the forests Oh lady, will you draw rangoli in my heart] On 14-May-2010, at 12:30 PM, Rivjot wrote: Can someone please translate Thirakkadha Kootukkulle from En Swasa Katrea. This melodious song I cant get out of my head from last 2-3 days. Doesnt have to be word to word translation.. just general feel is enough, like what is trying to be said
Re: [arr] பிரியத௠தà¯à®à¯à®à¯à®°à®¿à®¯ à ®°à®¹à¯à®®à®¾à®©à¯à®à¯à®à ¯...(Tamil writer Charu nived itha slams ARR)
@shahul, Though i dont agree with many of charu's opinions but i have to tell this.. Charu has mostly praised AR before. This is the first time I am seeing him critize. He praised AR for SDM,D6. I have read it earlier. Charu is quite popular in tamilnadu for good and bad reasons. And writers can write abt anythng and everything. We cant object that. Having said all these I didnt like a line of what he wrote about AR on the last article. 'Looks like AR, along with IR is going to join the list of pension earners' is a strongly objectionable statement. Anyways, Just ignore. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: lol. quiet true :) 2010/5/14 shahul hameed shahul...@... Did u ever know that such a writer by name Charu existed? But now u know.. and thus his mission is accomplished.. He claims to have praised AR's work in tamil and malayalam magazines but how come we havnt ready of any those here in our forum, where almost every article from around the world, no matter either its directly related to AR or distantly is posted.. so moral of the story is.. just ignore.. :o) 2010/5/14 Roshan c.pix...@... as a writer, is he any good ? Also, I wonder why would a writer criticize ARR ? they should probably stick to what they do best. writing. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Re: Revisiting Guru
Just the starting of the song is not good 'Jodiya Ek..'. Had it started from 0:16 , I felt it could have reached more people. Anyways AR knows the best. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: That song was panned from the very beginning, although many liked it. For me, it has its moments, but definitely one of the weaker songs from ARR in recent times. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote: Even more stranger..No one is taking abt Jodiya ..I love it right fm the first hearing.. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote: Strange! that nobody talking abt 'shauk hai' and 'mayya mayya'..awesome lyrics and awesome songs! Regards Yogesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: I dont agree with u...but OK..i accept ur point. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: Guru was an awesome album with FOUR masterpieces: Barso Re, Aye Hairathe, Tere Bina, and above allJaage Hain actually..i think Barso Re became the most popular...esp since its fast and catchy i didn't like the song choreography in Guru (not bad, but very routine)..but that's not ARR's fault...also...wish Aye Hairathe was used in its entirety (first time and ARR song wasn't fully used in a Mani movie) anyways..an album with 4 masterpieces is no doubt a masterpiece albumalso...Guru deserved all the music awards it won that year --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I agree about Tere Bina and Ay Hairathe as one of ARR's best, but Jaage Hain is right up there too, man! What an exceptional track..so symphonic and operatic with great feeling sung by ARR...how his voice soars! The melody is so beautiful! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Hey ppl, There is so much talk about 'Raavan' nowadays. It almost seems like a prolonged , infinitely extended review session, which is slowly dissolving into a rather pointless war of words and opinions, and which doesn't seem to end ever. Comparisons, criticisms, praises, anger, Hindi, Tamil, Telugu ,hatred, pleasure..etc etc. We've been witness to so many different emotions in the last few weeks, all due to a bunch of 6 songs.! isnt it remarkable??... Well..talking about comparisons, let me go back to Guru. I was just listening to some songs of Guru, and i thot ill add something here. I would like to say at the start that I am NOT COMPARING anything to anything..(LOL)...as u will find out on reading. Guru, in a manner of speaking, is a very difficult album to rank amongst Rahman's great plethora of work over the years. 'Tere Bina' and 'Ay Hairathe' outshine the other songs in the album by a long long way. They emerge as clear cut winners, and in my book rank as not just the best songs in the album, but 2 of the finest songs ever composed by Rahman. They have all the qualities which you would want in matured, romantic duets. However, none of the other songs are remembered as fondly as these two, and they don't even deserve to be. Barso re enjoyed little acclaim and some attention at the time of the movie's release, and for a few months after, and this was also due to the picturization (which was very good), but thats about it. I don't really care about Mayya Mayya (yeah u can talk about the raag used and all of that..but bah..id never really wanna hear that if im sitting alone in my balcony chilling or if i just wanna listen to some good Rahmanic stuff), Jaage hai or the 'Guru Bhai Guru bhai' song . These were more like theme songs, and hardly for casual hearing. In fact, I had completely forgotten abt them until the mention of Guru came up in some recent posts. So today when I think of Guru, all I remember are the 2 fabulous songs which I mentioned at the start, and I dont even care about the others. On the whole, Guru, for me, will be remembered just as a 2 song album , rather than 'Rahmans Finest' or 'Greatest Ever' etc. These, i'm afraid, are terms which should be used very sparingly and carefully, and certainly do not apply for 'Guru
[arr] Re: Wish Benny Dayal a very Happy Birthday ( NON ARR )
Happy birthday Benny sir!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: Today, May 13th, happens to be Benny Dayal 's Birthday. A very good singer and a good friend.. Benny rocks. Jai Ho Benny Pls join me in wishing him a very happy Bday -- regards, Vithur
[arr] Re: Revisiting Guru
Even more stranger..No one is taking abt Jodiya ..I love it right fm the first hearing.. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2...@... wrote: Strange! that nobody talking abt 'shauk hai' and 'mayya mayya'..awesome lyrics and awesome songs! Regards Yogesh --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: I dont agree with u...but OK..i accept ur point. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: Guru was an awesome album with FOUR masterpieces: Barso Re, Aye Hairathe, Tere Bina, and above allJaage Hain actually..i think Barso Re became the most popular...esp since its fast and catchy i didn't like the song choreography in Guru (not bad, but very routine)..but that's not ARR's fault...also...wish Aye Hairathe was used in its entirety (first time and ARR song wasn't fully used in a Mani movie) anyways..an album with 4 masterpieces is no doubt a masterpiece albumalso...Guru deserved all the music awards it won that year --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I agree about Tere Bina and Ay Hairathe as one of ARR's best, but Jaage Hain is right up there too, man! What an exceptional track..so symphonic and operatic with great feeling sung by ARR...how his voice soars! The melody is so beautiful! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2000@ wrote: Hey ppl, There is so much talk about 'Raavan' nowadays. It almost seems like a prolonged , infinitely extended review session, which is slowly dissolving into a rather pointless war of words and opinions, and which doesn't seem to end ever. Comparisons, criticisms, praises, anger, Hindi, Tamil, Telugu ,hatred, pleasure..etc etc. We've been witness to so many different emotions in the last few weeks, all due to a bunch of 6 songs.! isnt it remarkable??... Well..talking about comparisons, let me go back to Guru. I was just listening to some songs of Guru, and i thot ill add something here. I would like to say at the start that I am NOT COMPARING anything to anything..(LOL)...as u will find out on reading. Guru, in a manner of speaking, is a very difficult album to rank amongst Rahman's great plethora of work over the years. 'Tere Bina' and 'Ay Hairathe' outshine the other songs in the album by a long long way. They emerge as clear cut winners, and in my book rank as not just the best songs in the album, but 2 of the finest songs ever composed by Rahman. They have all the qualities which you would want in matured, romantic duets. However, none of the other songs are remembered as fondly as these two, and they don't even deserve to be. Barso re enjoyed little acclaim and some attention at the time of the movie's release, and for a few months after, and this was also due to the picturization (which was very good), but thats about it. I don't really care about Mayya Mayya (yeah u can talk about the raag used and all of that..but bah..id never really wanna hear that if im sitting alone in my balcony chilling or if i just wanna listen to some good Rahmanic stuff), Jaage hai or the 'Guru Bhai Guru bhai' song . These were more like theme songs, and hardly for casual hearing. In fact, I had completely forgotten abt them until the mention of Guru came up in some recent posts. So today when I think of Guru, all I remember are the 2 fabulous songs which I mentioned at the start, and I dont even care about the others. On the whole, Guru, for me, will be remembered just as a 2 song album , rather than 'Rahmans Finest' or 'Greatest Ever' etc. These, i'm afraid, are terms which should be used very sparingly and carefully, and certainly do not apply for 'Guru'. Peace !! Anish.
[arr] Re: Ennuyire (Satrangi re) - Lyrics Translation
Awesome work srini.. Just a small correction on the line below 'Ini Enna Nilai Enru Thondra Villai En Aaruyire En Ooruiyire' I think of think of the next stage, my dear] It should be 'I cant think of the next stage, my dear' or 'I dont know whats the next stage my dear, my dear ' --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srini Santhanam saint.si...@... wrote: Here's my attempt. Cheers, Srini _ Ennuyire Ennuyire En Aaruyire, Ennuyire Ennuyire En Ooruyire Kangal Thaandi Pogathe En Aaruyire En Ooruyire Oru Kaathalile Motham Aezhu Nilai Ithu Entha Nilai Enru Thondra Villai En Aararivil Rendu Kaanavillai, En Aaruyire En Ooruyire Vanthu Sernthu Vidu Ennai Sera Vidu Illai Saaga Vidu [Oh my life.. Don't you go away from my sight. Love has seven stages and I don't know now the stage I am in Two of my six senses are missing.. my love Come to me or let me come to you.. Or else atleast let me die] Sooriyan Santhiran Veezhnthazhinthu Poi Vidinum Nam Kaathalile Varum Jothiyile Intha Bhoomiyile Oli Kootiduvom Kaathalar Kangale Sooriyan Santhiran Aagatho [Even though the sun and moon come and leave lets brighten the world with the flames of our love Aren't sun and moon just the eyes of the lovers] Kaigal Naangum Theendum Munne Kangal Naangum Theendidume Mogam Konjam Mulai Vidume, Kan Paarvai Muthal Nilaye [Before the hands touch each other the eyes embrace each other.. love blossoms The meeting of the eyes is the first stage] Aaruyire Ennuyire Ullam Kondathu Oor Mayakkkam Innuyire Kaathalil Irandaam Nilai Thaan Paal Mayakkam [Oh love, the heart reaches a state of trance Oh dear, Infatuation is the second stage in love] Mey Theendum Nesam Thodangiyatho Ithu Kaathalin Moonram Padi Nilaiyo En Udal Vazhi Amirtham Vazhikindratho En Uyir Mattum Puthu Vitha Vazhi Kondatho [The desire to feel other starts Is this the third step in love Honey flows through my body and my life finds a new way to live] Ennuyire Ennuyire Unnai Konjam Theenduven Aezhvagai Kaathalai Eppothinge Thaanduven Ithil Nangam Nilaiyai Adainthu Vitten En Narumalare Unnai Thozhuthu Vitten En Suya Ninaivenbathai Izhanthu Vitten Antha Sooriyan Ezhum Thisai Maranthu Vitten [Oh love, I will touch you lightly.. When will I ever cross the seven stages of Love I have reached the fourth stage in this and I have started to worship you.. I have lost my consciousness I have forgotten the direction in which the sun rises] Kangal Thaandi Pogathe En Aaruyire En Ooruyire Oru Kaathalile Motham Aezhu Nilai Naam Ithu Varai Kandathu Naangu Nilai Ini Enna Nilai Enru Thondra Villai En Aaruyire En Ooruiyire [Oh my life.. Don't you go away from my sight. Love has seven stages and we have seen four stages until now I think of think of the next stage, my dear] En Udal Porul Thanthen Saran Pugunthen En Uyirai Unakkul Ootri Vitten Ithuthaan Kaathalil Ainthu Nilai, Naan Un Kaiyil Neer Thivalai [I gave you my body and my soul I poured my life into yours This is the fifth stage in love I'm a water droplet in your hands] Oru Moogathinaal Varum Pithu Nilai Ithu Moosamillai Oru Mukthi Nilai Nam Kaathalile Ithu Aaru Nilai [It's a state of madness caused by love.. It's not bad.. its just a state of enlightenment This is the sixth stage in our love] Ennuyire Ennuyire En Aaruyire, Ennuyire Ennuyire En Ooruyire Intha Kaathalil Maranam Thaan Aezhu Nilai Ithu Illai Enral Athu Theiveega Kaathalillai Intha Kaathalil Maranam Aezhu Nilai Ithu Illai Enral Athu Kaathal Illai Udal Marikkinra Kaathal Marippathillai Marippathillai En Aaruyire En Ooruyire [Oh dear, death is the seventh stage in love.. Without which it is not divine love The love in which the lovers die, never dies]
[arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
may be true gomzy..But Vairamuthu had written some stunning lyrics for uyire. A friend of mine(not AR fan ) who is into tamil literature says En aarruyire ( satringi re's tamil version ) is one of the greatest film songs ever written on love. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: uyire is better than Dil Se? Thats a bold statement considering the album has urdu written all over it. Again i guess it depends on what is the language of preference but any tamilian who is well versed with urdu will outright disagree. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:23 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: wait..did u just say spoken tamil sounds bad??...thats a pretty prejudiced statement man...no language sounds good or badevery language is beautiful to its speakers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: admin@ To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
Just a bad choice of word by Rajib bhai. I dont think it was intentional on Rajib's part. Let us not make a huge noise abt it. Happy that AR has made non tamils listen our beautiful language tamil. thanks Rajib bhai for a spl mention abt AR's tamil songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: wait..did u just say spoken tamil sounds bad??...thats a pretty prejudiced statement man...no language sounds good or badevery language is beautiful to its speakers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: admin@ To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Re: Raavan/Raavanan differences and observations.......
As I understand tamil, I can definitely tell you that you are correct. Right now , I prefer hindi to tamil. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pravinder pravindersheo...@... wrote: For me, Veera and Kalvare sound slightly better than Hindi version. Usure Pogudhey is almost the same. Kaatu Sirukki is nowhere near the Hindi one. Overall Hindi version is definitely better. Although, I don't understand Tamil, but still one can always tell. Pravinder. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Got a chance to listen to Raavanan songs online.waiting to buy the original CD Anyone notice the additional bass track in Veera in the beginning as well as the extra melodic track during the xylophone interlude? During that interlude, there's an extra counter melodic track playing in Veera that was not there in Beera. Also in the Kattu song, Shankar is singing more gammaks than what was heard by Javed Ali in the Hindi version.sounds a bit more semi classical with Carnatic style with Shankar's singing. I didn't mind Shriram's singing as much as some people's dislike, though, Rekha did a much better job. Keda Kari is a nice Carnatic counterpart to the North belt Kata Kata. ARR's range and versatility are just mindblowing. Keda Kari was a bit louder and less melodic in choral singing overall than Kata in my opinion. Kata was overall sweeter sounding to me. Slight melodic variations in Kodu Poatta compared to Thok...Benny did a respectable job in my opinion, but I liked Sukhi's version better. Karthik's song in Tamil is equally good as the Hindi version in my opinion. Shreya's singing is awesome in Tamil, a bit more expressive and better tonally than Reena's version, but almost equal in quality Great to have 2 versions of this masterpiece album!
[arr] Re: RAAVAN - HQ Audio CD Cover Scans
Its justified and you are doing a awesome work Rajib bhai --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: Well, I do see...It's a Digital version of those Audio CD Covers,HQ version is obvious !! some of us here isnt Lucky enough to be able to buy Audio CDs ( Like Me )...for those these scans works as a proxy :-( ..and Anyway... Therez a word called A.R.Rahman Printed on it .. so it's an obvious thing to have .. you might loss your Audio CD..but you wont lose these Scans .. therez so many reasons to justify these Scans !!! On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Niven niven...@... wrote: NO offense meant... I dont see the need to post scans of cd covers. Specially HQ...Pls explain, as recent cd covers are available when we buy audio cds. Niven --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Liku likantk@ wrote: hi Updated RAAVAN - HQ Audio CD Cover Scans http://liku-likant.blogspot.com/2010/04/arrahman-raavan-audio-cd-covers_28.html Checkout Other Updated CD COVERS...some of them that i didn't posted here before http://liku-likant.blogspot.com/p/cd-coverr.html regards Liku Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
Dear Harsh Rahmanic, Agreed that AR knows the best. But nothing wrong in discussing something that one doesn't like and saying abt it. Its just a personal taste. Thats all. ' I dont like an album' never can be classified as bashing. Even if someone bashes let us remember the one of the greatest lines said by our own AR 'All along my life I have had two options. One is love and other is hatred. I chose love. I am here' . Ok enough of boring bhashan:) Let us listen to thok de Khilli and enjoy:) Regards, S.V.Nagaraj --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, harsha vardhan harshaa_vard...@... wrote: Mr.nagraj, u din't get my point...may be i was not clear...i just meant no one here wants an ARR composition to be raved...everyone here knows what his music is and thats just the very reason for all of us being here...letting others know what u liked in a particular composition would b a better thing to do on everyones part...and i meant no one is as talented as ARR to bash the man himself, the person who is exploring new challenges and delivering something beyond imagination all the time...so there is no way a true music lover can ever bash Mr.ARR...if he is bashing ,then sorry he has lost his ears.. I have no hard feelings for you Mr.nagraj, you are my fellow rahmaniac... --- On Mon, 5/3/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@... Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:30 AM Â /* And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all know what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper... give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol wake up brother(s).. . */ My point is this. Raving/bashing should addressed and treated in the same way. And your point me not liking an album is out of topic as I am not discussing my liking/disliking. Why get personal( my ear,my creative abilities) on a public forum for expressing a opinion about an album/product? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, harsha vardhan harshaa_vardhan@ ... wrote: Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 'chiggy wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force you to love anything...its a conscience thing... if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is not your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 've done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than the creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding... its a film score and it needed music that can enhance the subject within certain limitations. .. ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just doing what every film is demanding... i don't think he has ever done music for the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some brilliance at least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at least you know that the man himself knows better than what we all know ,what he has to deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years... And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all know what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper... give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol wake up brother(s).. . --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj arr_nagaraj@ ... wrote: From: raj arr_nagaraj@ ... Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM ÃÂ If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing why blue doesn't work for someone. Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ . wrote: Good point, Gomzy. Couldn't have said
[arr] Re: [Non-ARR] How to do Online Shopping ?
I truly appreciate appreciate your efforts in buying the original inspite of having so many difficulties. Please tolerate my dumb suggestion. Best i can think of is ship it to someone you know in kolkata and then get it thro some courier service. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: Folks, I am from Bangladesh , Amazon.com doesnt ship almost anything here , ebay.com manages their payments through paypal.com , and paypal.com doesnt have any option for Bangladeshi users to Register on their site. Wanna buy so many ARR Stuff ...and other things ...but dont know where to start from... :-( Help me on this folks,I've never done this before..and nobody around me dont even know anything like this on Earth actually exists !! ... I am sure many people here facing this problem here ! So they don't have any option than to opt for Piracy !! Any help on this ? -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
