Problem with generation of RequestID

2007-04-26 Thread Harikrishna_Basani
Dear All,

 

I had a problem while creating a request in Requestor Console (ITSM
7.x), the RequestID is not getting created even we tried n number of
times clicking on the Refresh Button. It is showing Inprocess instead of
RequestID in My Request Table.

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

 

Environment:

 

ARS ITSM 7.0 

Windows 2003 SP1

SQL Server 2000

 

Regards

Harikrishna.

 



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Re: Problem with generation of RequestID

2007-04-26 Thread Anjali Gosain
**




Hi,
The request id shows "InProgress" if any error is encountered while
creating corresponding HD/CM ticket. To see what went wrong open the
"Service Request" form. There it will show the error that occurred
while creating the ticket. Resolve the error and retry - the ticket
should be created 

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Harikrishna_Basani wrote:
**
  
  
  
  
  Dear All,
   
  I had a problem while
creating a request in Requestor
Console (ITSM 7.x), the RequestID is not getting created even we tried
n number
of times clicking on the Refresh Button. It is showing Inprocess instead of RequestID in My Request Table.
   
  Any suggestions would be
helpful.
   
   
  Environment:
   
  ARS
ITSM 7.0 
  Windows
2003 SP1
  SQL
Server 2000
   
  Regards
  Harikrishna.
   
  
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Re: Problem with generation of RequestID

2007-04-26 Thread Praveen
Refer page 80 - 90 of Service Desk Incident Management 7.0 User's Guide , it 
has all the details you are looking for.

Praveen


Quoting Harikrishna_Basani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Dear All,
> 
>  
> 
> I had a problem while creating a request in Requestor Console
> (ITSM
> 7.x), the RequestID is not getting created even we tried n number
> of
> times clicking on the Refresh Button. It is showing Inprocess
> instead of
> RequestID in My Request Table.
> 
>  
> 
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Environment:
> 
>  
> 
> ARS ITSM 7.0 
> 
> Windows 2003 SP1
> 
> SQL Server 2000
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Harikrishna.
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Source control system integration to ARS

2007-04-26 Thread Ozcan, Serdar
Hello,
 
I'm trying to find out about possible options and issues with using a
source control system with our ARS version 6.3 servers. Until

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Recall: Source control system integration to ARS

2007-04-26 Thread Ozcan, Serdar
Ozcan, Serdar would like to recall the message, "Source control system 
integration to ARS".

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Source control system integration to ARS

2007-04-26 Thread Ozcan, Serdar
Hello,
 
I'm sorry if you are receiving this message twice. I've sent an incomplete one 
accidentally and then recalled the email message but I'm not sure if it had 
been already distributed or not :(
 
I'm trying to find out about possible options and issues with using a source 
control system with our ARS version 6.3 servers. Until now I could not find an 
up-to-date discussion in the Internet about this topic, where I can read a 
comparison of alternatives such as ClearCase and Visual SourceSafe. I can 
summarize what I've found as follows:
 
- ClearCase can cause several problems, because it does not comply with a 
Microsoft standard API.
- Visual SourceSafe can cause problems because it's not really safe.
- CVS can be used with some kind of adapter program
- Source control may not worth the effort to make it work, since you can use 
very limited functionality if every developer doesn't have own development 
server.
 
Well, I've compiled a couple of postings from several sources and posted in a 
wide range of date. Many things have probably (hopefully) changed since then.
 
What are your experiences with this? Where can I find up-to-date information 
about problems or maybe a comparison of CC and VSS and the others?
 
PS: I've just received a confirmation from arslist that the previous message 
was distributed. Sorry :(
 
Thanks a lot and the best regards,
 
Serdar Özcan
Siemens Enterprise Communications
 
iSEC - IT Services and Enterprise Communications
Software Engineer
 
 

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Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or Change 
and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the Service Request 
form search all service requests and do not see in process in the request ID go 
to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in app event status an error. 
By reviewing the error you should see that the Incident/Change could not be 
created. If Auto Assignment is not working it can fail also if you have Tier 
1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
 
 
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Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


** 
Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that 
doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets saved 
but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get triggered..
 
Joe
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** 
Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering. 
 
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Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not sure
what I am missing..

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Re: Problem with generation of RequestID

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
If you open the Service Request form search all service requests and see in 
process in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see 
in app event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the 
Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it can 
fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
 
 
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Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 4:04 AM
Subject: Problem with generation of RequestID


** 
Dear All,
 
I had a problem while creating a request in Requestor Console (ITSM 7.x), the 
RequestID is not getting created even we tried n number of times clicking on 
the Refresh Button. It is showing Inprocess instead of RequestID in My Request 
Table.
 
Any suggestions would be helpful.
 
 
Environment:
 
ARS ITSM 7.0 
Windows 2003 SP1
SQL Server 2000
 
Regards
Harikrishna.
 
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Highlight Text of a field

2007-04-26 Thread jaya munjal
Hi List
   
  I have a requirement where the user wants that when he Tabs from one field to 
the next, data in the field should get highlighted so can he can write over the 
text, instead of deleting the text.
   
  Is it possible to implement this functionality.
   
   
  Thanks in Advance
   
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Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?

2007-04-26 Thread Rudi
I use a list generator with a possibibilty to make program changes very
easy. So it is possible to jump into an other program over command line call
or OLM using list entries as parameter. We use this for example to jump from
a report direct to the ERP system (articel, orders and so on) or a label
program and so on.
It is possible to  jump into Remedy User Application (v. 7.0.00) from
outside ? For example I need to jump direct to an computer CI and the CI
Number is the parameter.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Kind regards

Rudolf Boettcher

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Re: Source control system integration to ARS

2007-04-26 Thread Carey Matthew Black

Serdar,

I doubt this is what you want to hear, but I think the information
that you have already gathered is a good summary for the current state
of Source Control and ARS.

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On 4/26/07, Ozcan, Serdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**


Hello,

I'm sorry if you are receiving this message twice. I've sent an incomplete
one accidentally and then recalled the email message but I'm not sure if it
had been already distributed or not :(

I'm trying to find out about possible options and issues with using a source
control system with our ARS version 6.3 servers. Until now I could not find
an up-to-date discussion in the Internet about this topic, where I can read
a comparison of alternatives such as ClearCase and Visual SourceSafe. I can
summarize what I've found as follows:

- ClearCase can cause several problems, because it does not comply with a
Microsoft standard API.
- Visual SourceSafe can cause problems because it's not really safe.
- CVS can be used with some kind of adapter program
- Source control may not worth the effort to make it work, since you can use
very limited functionality if every developer doesn't have own development
server.

Well, I've compiled a couple of postings from several sources and posted in
a wide range of date. Many things have probably (hopefully) changed since
then.

What are your experiences with this? Where can I find up-to-date information
about problems or maybe a comparison of CC and VSS and the others?

PS: I've just received a confirmation from arslist that the previous message
was distributed. Sorry :(

Thanks a lot and the best regards,

Serdar Özcan
Siemens Enterprise Communications

iSEC - IT Services and Enterprise Communications
Software Engineer


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Re: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
Through the WEB client with SSO installed you could do this. 
 
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Subject: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?


I use a list generator with a possibibilty to make program changes very
easy. So it is possible to jump into an other program over command line call
or OLM using list entries as parameter. We use this for example to jump from
a report direct to the ERP system (articel, orders and so on) or a label
program and so on.
It is possible to  jump into Remedy User Application (v. 7.0.00) from
outside ? For example I need to jump direct to an computer CI and the CI
Number is the parameter.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Kind regards

Rudolf Boettcher

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Re: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?

2007-04-26 Thread Michiel Beijen

Rudi,

You can launch Remedy using a artask file. You can create these on the
fly with your application and then launch them. Check the following
article.

http://www.remedy.com/customers/dht/archive/03-07-2005_C.htm

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I use a list generator with a possibibilty to make program changes very
easy. So it is possible to jump into an other program over command line call
or OLM using list entries as parameter. We use this for example to jump from
a report direct to the ERP system (articel, orders and so on) or a label
program and so on.
It is possible to  jump into Remedy User Application (v. 7.0.00) from
outside ? For example I need to jump direct to an computer CI and the CI
Number is the parameter.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Kind regards

Rudolf Boettcher

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Re: Access Results List using workflow

2007-04-26 Thread Ashton, Jim (JUS)
I did play around with the Refresh Row Selection options before submitting my 
original post.  These were my findings:

With a Refresh Row Selection  setting of "Retain Selection, Fire Workflow" or 
"Select First, Fire Workflow" the same initial result set was returned from a 
given search in both the Results Pane and the Results List table field (1020).  
In both cases, the first record in the result set was selected.

I subsequently selected the top 10 records in the Results Pane.  I then 
refreshed the Results List table field, but the selections from the Results 
Pane were NOT reflected in the Results List table field.

I need to be able to access the selections the user has made in the Results 
Pane, and act on each of those records individually.  Since I have found no way 
to reference the user's selections in the Results Pane directly, I had hoped 
the user's selections (ie. the top 10 records in the example above) would be 
available to workflow in the Results List table field, but they do not appear 
to be passed from the Results Pane to the Results List table field.

So the question (maybe not worded sufficiently clearly in the original post) 
becomes, is there a way to a) access selections in the Results Pane directly or 
b) cause selections in the Results Pane to be reflected in the Results List 
table field?

Thanks in advance,
Jim.

Jim, You probably have one of these options selected in the Advanced Display of 
the table field in the Refresh Row Selection option: Retain Selection, No 
Workflow Select First, No Workflow No Selection Select either of these options 
instead which is more appropriate for you Retain Selection, Fire Wofkflow 
Select First, Fire Workflow 
Hope this helps Joe 
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Subject: Access Results List using workflow 
I need to find a way to determine which record(s) a user has selected in the 
results list in the User Tool (desktop client, not web). Using a Results List 
table field (reserved field ID 1020) produces the initial results list 
generated by the user's search, but refreshing this object does not update it's 
selection(s). Is it possible to a) configure field ID 1020 to refresh 
selections based on selections made in the Results List, or b) obtain the 
selection(s) in the Results List directly in workflow? 
Thanks in advance, Jim. 

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Automated search from outside remedy

2007-04-26 Thread SUBSCRIBE arslist Neel
Hello everybody,

 

We have a team on-support that checks for certain things every hour (for
example how many inbound emails in past 30 mins, how many outbound
emails went successfully in past 24 hours, how many emails errored out
in past 24 hours, emails waiting in the queue with status "YES" in past
24 hours, how many users are logged in at the moment etc...)

 

Is there any way to automate this search from outside the remedy? A
web-service, or a utility app that would execute the searches defined
ever hour or defined time-interval and log it in xml or crate a csv or
excel file? Any ideas?

 

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Re: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?

2007-04-26 Thread Carey Matthew Black

Rudi,

There is even an OLE interface that would let you do fun things like
open a form. Set some field values and if you get tricky enough with
"SendKeys" you can then execute the search for the user. (But the CI
stuff might just require you push a button which can be done with OLE
if memory serves.) Or you can build an Active Link Guide that could be
called.

You have options.

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On 4/26/07, Rudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I use a list generator with a possibibilty to make program changes very
easy. So it is possible to jump into an other program over command line call
or OLM using list entries as parameter. We use this for example to jump from
a report direct to the ERP system (articel, orders and so on) or a label
program and so on.
It is possible to  jump into Remedy User Application (v. 7.0.00) from
outside ? For example I need to jump direct to an computer CI and the CI
Number is the parameter.

Mit freundlichem Gruss / Kind regards

Rudolf Boettcher

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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

I received an update from BMC on this issue.  The defect they
generated was CLOSED with a disposition of AS DESIGNED.  I do not
agree with this decision, and I want to stir up some discussion in the
community as to their stated direction, and my perceived DOA status of
the mid-tier product in large scale environments as a result of this
statement of direction:

I received this update from BMC:

The defect related to this issue: SW00264036 was closed with the
following comments:

Re midtier behavior, http is stateless so all user states are tracked
on the midtier side. If the user closes all browser windows associated
with a valid http session on midtier side, the session will remain
until expires. This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user
will not be release until session times out. The behavior is as
designed. (In contrast to WUT which uses RPC, when the WUT is closed,
it calls back to the AR Server to perform logout. If TCP is lost when
the user closes WUT, then the license for that user also stays in
limbo until times out.)


This was the response back to BMC:

- One aspect of the issue we raised was that we had added an Active
Link that fires on Window Close to do the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
process, but that does not release the token either. I do not see the
explanation below addressing that at all.

- Also, I just ran a test to prove/disprove the statement below
regarding the MT session handling. I set the session timeout to 2
minutes on my Mid-Tier, logged in to MT w/ a floating license, killed
the browser window, verified the user was still in possession of a
floating token via the Manage User Licenses in the admin tool, and
then waited about 10 minutes. The floating token had still not been
released even though the session should have expired.

Axton Grams

On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Using IE, it will appear the browser is timing out; you will need to
look at the servletexec stderr logs to see the java stack trace
triggered by the null pointer exception.

Axton Grams

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> Daniel, create an active link that performs an open window using the
> current window (AL should fire from the form that has the AL that
> performs the exit-app on window close).  Let me know if you get a null
> pointer exception.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/22/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All ,
> >
> > Yesterday I said that a floating license is not release.
> >
> > I was wrong. The reason is that I had performed the test in the
> > following condition:
> >
> > - ARS version 6.3 patch 21
> > - AR mid tier 7.0.1 patch 001
> > - IIS 6.0 on Win 2003 SP2
> > - IE 7.0
> > - New Atlanta 5.0
> >
> > Today using the same mid tier but connected to ARS version 7.0.1 running
> > on MS SQL 2005 SP2, the test was a success.
> >
> > Steps to reproduce:
> >
> > - create a regular form
> > - create an AL running on Windows Close event with Run Process
> > PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ARSList
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:46 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> >
> > Shouldn't the Mid-Tier "Session Timeout" take care of the license?
> >
> > I would think when the users closes the browser after this timeout
> > happens, the license should be released.
> >
> > I would test this in my lab, but I don't have the ($$$) floating
> > licenses for my test.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:06 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> >
> > I built another environment as follows and retested the behavior:
> > - 7.x def used for testing available at
> > http://arswiki.org/dist/ars/AppClose.def
> >
> > *** Steps to reproduce the issue (method 1):
> > 1-after importing the def, go to the home page on the mid-tier server
> > 2-open the TestAppCloseLicenseUsage/Console entry point 3-click the
> > 'open in current' button on the console form (this performs an open
> > window action in the current window) - you will receive a hang in the
> > app; click stop script to continue if using IE 4-close the window
> >
> > This terminates all browsers, the main console has an AL to exit-app on
> > window close, but the license remains allocated.
> >
> > Expected Result:
> > - Floating license is releases
> > Actual Result:
> > - Floating license remains allocated
> >
> > *** About the stop script error:
> > When you have an AL on a form that perform the exit-app run process on
> > window close, and you perform an open window action to the current
> > window, this causes an error.  In IE you are presented with the option
> > to stop/continue the script.  In Firefox, you get a java stack trace:
> >
> > M

Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."

What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found in
automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
these test cases I am working on..

Joe
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


  **
  Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in app
event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.


  -Original Message-
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  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


  **
  Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get triggered..

  Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
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**
Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering.

-Original Message-
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not sure
what I am missing..

Joe
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Re: Automated search from outside remedy

2007-04-26 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
Why not just query the backend database directly?

 

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Is there any way to automate this search from outside the remedy? A
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Re: Source control system integration to ARS

2007-04-26 Thread L. J. Head
I second that.  We are currently 'trying' to use ClearCase and it's not
working very well...the ClearCase view gets out of sync easily so all
developers are supposed to now use the same view.  Creating new objects and
updating existing ones is slow at best and often experiences errors.  The
company is trying to go forward with using the Def files that ClearCase
contains to do migrations of code (OMG)it's just simpler if you don't
use it because Remedy does not lend itself well to source control

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:33 AM
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Serdar,

I doubt this is what you want to hear, but I think the information that you
have already gathered is a good summary for the current state of Source
Control and ARS.

--
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Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

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Solution = People + Process + Tools
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> **
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry if you are receiving this message twice. I've sent an 
> incomplete one accidentally and then recalled the email message but 
> I'm not sure if it had been already distributed or not :(
>
> I'm trying to find out about possible options and issues with using a 
> source control system with our ARS version 6.3 servers. Until now I 
> could not find an up-to-date discussion in the Internet about this 
> topic, where I can read a comparison of alternatives such as ClearCase 
> and Visual SourceSafe. I can summarize what I've found as follows:
>
> - ClearCase can cause several problems, because it does not comply 
> with a Microsoft standard API.
> - Visual SourceSafe can cause problems because it's not really safe.
> - CVS can be used with some kind of adapter program
> - Source control may not worth the effort to make it work, since you 
> can use very limited functionality if every developer doesn't have own 
> development server.
>
> Well, I've compiled a couple of postings from several sources and 
> posted in a wide range of date. Many things have probably (hopefully) 
> changed since then.
>
> What are your experiences with this? Where can I find up-to-date 
> information about problems or maybe a comparison of CC and VSS and the
others?
>
> PS: I've just received a confirmation from arslist that the previous 
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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

If you want to view the original problem, it can be accessed here:

http://bugs.arswiki.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10

This pertains to the problems that revolve around the mid-tier holding
on to floating licenses.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I received an update from BMC on this issue.  The defect they
generated was CLOSED with a disposition of AS DESIGNED.  I do not
agree with this decision, and I want to stir up some discussion in the
community as to their stated direction, and my perceived DOA status of
the mid-tier product in large scale environments as a result of this
statement of direction:

I received this update from BMC:

The defect related to this issue: SW00264036 was closed with the
following comments:

Re midtier behavior, http is stateless so all user states are tracked
on the midtier side. If the user closes all browser windows associated
with a valid http session on midtier side, the session will remain
until expires. This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user
will not be release until session times out. The behavior is as
designed. (In contrast to WUT which uses RPC, when the WUT is closed,
it calls back to the AR Server to perform logout. If TCP is lost when
the user closes WUT, then the license for that user also stays in
limbo until times out.)


This was the response back to BMC:

- One aspect of the issue we raised was that we had added an Active
Link that fires on Window Close to do the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
process, but that does not release the token either. I do not see the
explanation below addressing that at all.

- Also, I just ran a test to prove/disprove the statement below
regarding the MT session handling. I set the session timeout to 2
minutes on my Mid-Tier, logged in to MT w/ a floating license, killed
the browser window, verified the user was still in possession of a
floating token via the Manage User Licenses in the admin tool, and
then waited about 10 minutes. The floating token had still not been
released even though the session should have expired.

Axton Grams

On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using IE, it will appear the browser is timing out; you will need to
> look at the servletexec stderr logs to see the java stack trace
> triggered by the null pointer exception.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Daniel, create an active link that performs an open window using the
> > current window (AL should fire from the form that has the AL that
> > performs the exit-app on window close).  Let me know if you get a null
> > pointer exception.
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On 3/22/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi All ,
> > >
> > > Yesterday I said that a floating license is not release.
> > >
> > > I was wrong. The reason is that I had performed the test in the
> > > following condition:
> > >
> > > - ARS version 6.3 patch 21
> > > - AR mid tier 7.0.1 patch 001
> > > - IIS 6.0 on Win 2003 SP2
> > > - IE 7.0
> > > - New Atlanta 5.0
> > >
> > > Today using the same mid tier but connected to ARS version 7.0.1 running
> > > on MS SQL 2005 SP2, the test was a success.
> > >
> > > Steps to reproduce:
> > >
> > > - create a regular form
> > > - create an AL running on Windows Close event with Run Process
> > > PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ARSList
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:46 PM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> > >
> > > Shouldn't the Mid-Tier "Session Timeout" take care of the license?
> > >
> > > I would think when the users closes the browser after this timeout
> > > happens, the license should be released.
> > >
> > > I would test this in my lab, but I don't have the ($$$) floating
> > > licenses for my test.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:06 AM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> > >
> > > I built another environment as follows and retested the behavior:
> > > - 7.x def used for testing available at
> > > http://arswiki.org/dist/ars/AppClose.def
> > >
> > > *** Steps to reproduce the issue (method 1):
> > > 1-after importing the def, go to the home page on the mid-tier server
> > > 2-open the TestAppCloseLicenseUsage/Console entry point 3-click the
> > > 'open in current' button on the console form (this performs an open
> > > window action in the current window) - you will receive a hang in the
> > > app; click stop script to continue if using IE 4-close the window
> > >
> > > This terminates all browsers, the main console has an AL to exit-app on
> > > window close, but the license remains allocated.
> > >
> > > Expected Result:
> > > - Floatin

Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Jarl Grøneng

In the assignment form, try to add a  -Global- assignment.

--
Jarl

On 4/26/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**

That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."

What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found in
automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
these test cases I am working on..

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

**
Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in app
event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


**
Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get triggered..

Joe

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

**
Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not sure
what I am missing..

Joe
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Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form

2007-04-26 Thread Melissa Reed
We are experiencing problems when users search on the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA
form, either via the form or through the canned SLA performance
reports.  If you qualify on Arrival Time or Resolve Time, it can spike
the Oralce CPU usage up to 25% or more (which is a huge amount for our
environment).  The query is taking 5-10 minutes to return, longer
during peak times of the day.

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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Wheeler, Dylan
Gotta love it when you ask them to fix something that's broken, give
specific examples of how their workflow is broken and they say it's as
designed heh.
Sounds like MS with their "Undocumented Features".

I guess I'll have to open a ticket with out support company specifically
about the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP not working correctly and leave out
the broken mid tier part out.

Dylan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:48 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses


I received an update from BMC on this issue.  The defect they generated
was CLOSED with a disposition of AS DESIGNED.  I do not agree with this
decision, and I want to stir up some discussion in the community as to
their stated direction, and my perceived DOA status of the mid-tier
product in large scale environments as a result of this statement of
direction:

I received this update from BMC:

The defect related to this issue: SW00264036 was closed with the
following comments:

Re midtier behavior, http is stateless so all user states are tracked on
the midtier side. If the user closes all browser windows associated with
a valid http session on midtier side, the session will remain until
expires. This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user will not
be release until session times out. The behavior is as designed. (In
contrast to WUT which uses RPC, when the WUT is closed, it calls back to
the AR Server to perform logout. If TCP is lost when the user closes
WUT, then the license for that user also stays in limbo until times
out.)


This was the response back to BMC:

- One aspect of the issue we raised was that we had added an Active Link
that fires on Window Close to do the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP process,
but that does not release the token either. I do not see the explanation
below addressing that at all.

- Also, I just ran a test to prove/disprove the statement below
regarding the MT session handling. I set the session timeout to 2
minutes on my Mid-Tier, logged in to MT w/ a floating license, killed
the browser window, verified the user was still in possession of a
floating token via the Manage User Licenses in the admin tool, and then
waited about 10 minutes. The floating token had still not been released
even though the session should have expired.

Axton Grams

On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using IE, it will appear the browser is timing out; you will need to 
> look at the servletexec stderr logs to see the java stack trace 
> triggered by the null pointer exception.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Daniel, create an active link that performs an open window using the

> > current window (AL should fire from the form that has the AL that 
> > performs the exit-app on window close).  Let me know if you get a 
> > null pointer exception.
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On 3/22/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi All ,
> > >
> > > Yesterday I said that a floating license is not release.
> > >
> > > I was wrong. The reason is that I had performed the test in the 
> > > following condition:
> > >
> > > - ARS version 6.3 patch 21
> > > - AR mid tier 7.0.1 patch 001
> > > - IIS 6.0 on Win 2003 SP2
> > > - IE 7.0
> > > - New Atlanta 5.0
> > >
> > > Today using the same mid tier but connected to ARS version 7.0.1 
> > > running on MS SQL 2005 SP2, the test was a success.
> > >
> > > Steps to reproduce:
> > >
> > > - create a regular form
> > > - create an AL running on Windows Close event with Run Process 
> > > PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ARSList
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:46 PM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> > >
> > > Shouldn't the Mid-Tier "Session Timeout" take care of the license?
> > >
> > > I would think when the users closes the browser after this timeout

> > > happens, the license should be released.
> > >
> > > I would test this in my lab, but I don't have the ($$$) floating 
> > > licenses for my test.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:06 AM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> > >
> > > I built another environment as follows and retested the behavior:
> > > - 7.x def used for testing available at 
> > > http://arswiki.org/dist/ars/AppClose.def
> > >
> > > *** Steps to reproduce the issue (method 1):
> > > 1-after importing the def, go to the home page on the mid-tier 
> > > server 2-open the TestAppCloseLicenseUsage/Console entry point 
> > > 3-click the 'open in current' button on the console form (

Re: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
Are these fields indexed?

Joe

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Melissa Reed
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form


We are experiencing problems when users search on the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA
form, either via the form or through the canned SLA performance
reports.  If you qualify on Arrival Time or Resolve Time, it can spike
the Oralce CPU usage up to 25% or more (which is a huge amount for our
environment).  The query is taking 5-10 minutes to return, longer
during peak times of the day.

Has anyone else experienced this before?
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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
My reply to then would include something like... 

You state "This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user will
not be release until session times out. The behavior is as designed.".
What I would like to know is "Which session Timeout (The Server based
Floating License Timeout, the Mid-Tier based Session Timeout, or the
Apache/IIS based HTTP Timeout)?"

Also Axton... When you performed your Timeout test, did you restart your
Web Server and your JSP engine after setting the timeout to 2 minutes in
the Mid-Tier?

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

If you want to view the original problem, it can be accessed here:

http://bugs.arswiki.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10

This pertains to the problems that revolve around the mid-tier holding
on to floating licenses.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I received an update from BMC on this issue.  The defect they 
> generated was CLOSED with a disposition of AS DESIGNED.  I do not 
> agree with this decision, and I want to stir up some discussion in the

> community as to their stated direction, and my perceived DOA status of

> the mid-tier product in large scale environments as a result of this 
> statement of direction:
>
> I received this update from BMC:
>
> The defect related to this issue: SW00264036 was closed with the 
> following comments:
>
> Re midtier behavior, http is stateless so all user states are tracked 
> on the midtier side. If the user closes all browser windows associated

> with a valid http session on midtier side, the session will remain 
> until expires. This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user 
> will not be release until session times out. The behavior is as 
> designed. (In contrast to WUT which uses RPC, when the WUT is closed, 
> it calls back to the AR Server to perform logout. If TCP is lost when 
> the user closes WUT, then the license for that user also stays in 
> limbo until times out.)
>
>
> This was the response back to BMC:
>
> - One aspect of the issue we raised was that we had added an Active 
> Link that fires on Window Close to do the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP 
> process, but that does not release the token either. I do not see the 
> explanation below addressing that at all.
>
> - Also, I just ran a test to prove/disprove the statement below 
> regarding the MT session handling. I set the session timeout to 2 
> minutes on my Mid-Tier, logged in to MT w/ a floating license, killed 
> the browser window, verified the user was still in possession of a 
> floating token via the Manage User Licenses in the admin tool, and 
> then waited about 10 minutes. The floating token had still not been 
> released even though the session should have expired.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Using IE, it will appear the browser is timing out; you will need to

> > look at the servletexec stderr logs to see the java stack trace 
> > triggered by the null pointer exception.
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Daniel, create an active link that performs an open window using 
> > > the current window (AL should fire from the form that has the AL 
> > > that performs the exit-app on window close).  Let me know if you 
> > > get a null pointer exception.
> > >
> > > Axton Grams
> > >
> > > On 3/22/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi All ,
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I said that a floating license is not release.
> > > >
> > > > I was wrong. The reason is that I had performed the test in the 
> > > > following condition:
> > > >
> > > > - ARS version 6.3 patch 21
> > > > - AR mid tier 7.0.1 patch 001
> > > > - IIS 6.0 on Win 2003 SP2
> > > > - IE 7.0
> > > > - New Atlanta 5.0
> > > >
> > > > Today using the same mid tier but connected to ARS version 7.0.1

> > > > running on MS SQL 2005 SP2, the test was a success.
> > > >
> > > > Steps to reproduce:
> > > >
> > > > - create a regular form
> > > > - create an AL running on Windows Close event with Run Process 
> > > > PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ARSList
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:46 PM
> > > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > > Subject: Re: Freeing licenses
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't the Mid-Tier "Session Timeout" take care of the
license?
> > > >
> > > > I would think when the users closes the browser after this 
> > > > timeout happens, the license should be released.
> > > >
> > > > I would test this in my lab, but I don't have the ($$$) floating

> > > > licenses for my test.
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Action Reques

Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
My problem was not that.. In the Event field I misunderstood its use.. In
fact I am still not too clear on what the other values in the Event field is
for.. But when I changed all of them to -General- it fixed the problem..

I had looked up the workflow that the auto assignment process was using that
helped me fix the issue.. The first condition there is ('Assignment Event' =
"- General -") AND ...

My values in the Company and Contact Company form were already -Global- and
didn't need a change..

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


In the assignment form, try to add a  -Global- assignment.

--
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On 4/26/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
> incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
> using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."
>
> What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found
in
> automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
> these test cases I am working on..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
> Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
> Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
> in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in
app
> event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
> Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
> can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> **
> Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
> doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
> saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get
triggered..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
> Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
> have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
> but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
> since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not
sure
> what I am missing..
>
> Joe
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Re: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form

2007-04-26 Thread Wheeler, Dylan
How many records does the form hold and what do you have for indexes?

Those are the first places I'd look.

Dylan

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Subject: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form


We are experiencing problems when users search on the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA
form, either via the form or through the canned SLA performance reports.
If you qualify on Arrival Time or Resolve Time, it can spike the Oralce
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Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
Now you understand why it took me 30 days longer to get the client operational 
on 7 than I anticipated. There are a lot of touch points that are not well 
documented in the configuration manuals.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


My problem was not that.. In the Event field I misunderstood its use.. In
fact I am still not too clear on what the other values in the Event field is
for.. But when I changed all of them to -General- it fixed the problem..

I had looked up the workflow that the auto assignment process was using that
helped me fix the issue.. The first condition there is ('Assignment Event' =
"- General -") AND ...

My values in the Company and Contact Company form were already -Global- and
didn't need a change..

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


In the assignment form, try to add a  -Global- assignment.

--
Jarl

On 4/26/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
> incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
> using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."
>
> What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found
in
> automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
> these test cases I am working on..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
> Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
> Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
> in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in
app
> event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
> Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
> can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> **
> Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
> doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
> saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get
triggered..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
> Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
> have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
> but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
> since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not
sure
> what I am missing..
>
> Joe
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Re: Automated search from outside remedy

2007-04-26 Thread SUBSCRIBE arslist Neel
Kaiser,

 

I am new to SQL Server 2005. The dates saved in the tables are in the
UNIX format I believe and it only gives the number of seconds elapsed
since 1 Jan 1970 midnight (pls correct me if I'm wrong). So let's say I
want to execute the following

 

('Create Date:' >= ($TIMESTAMP$ - 2*60*60)) AND (('Create Date:' - 3600)
> 'Date Received'

 

How do I go about doing it? Any conversion functions to check the dates
in the table versus what SQL SERVER 2005 understands?

 

Thank you,

 

Neel Gautam 

Accenture - Chicago Delivery Centre

Office:  312-693-7279   Mobile:  630-440-6335

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: neelgautam

 

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Client Value Creation

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One Global Network

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Respect for the Individual

*

Integrity

 



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CS/SCCE
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: Automated search from outside remedy

 

Why not just query the backend database directly?

 

Norm

 



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Subject: Automated search from outside remedy
Importance: High

 

Hello everybody,

 

We have a team on-support that checks for certain things every hour (for
example how many inbound emails in past 30 mins, how many outbound
emails went successfully in past 24 hours, how many emails errored out
in past 24 hours, emails waiting in the queue with status "YES" in past
24 hours, how many users are logged in at the moment etc...)

 

Is there any way to automate this search from outside the remedy? A
web-service, or a utility app that would execute the searches defined
ever hour or defined time-interval and log it in xml or crate a csv or
excel file? Any ideas?

 

Thank you,

 

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Accenture - Chicago Delivery Centre

Office:  312-693-7279   Mobile:  630-440-6335

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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

As to which session timeout, it would appear to be the floating
license timeout.  None of the others seem to have any bearing.

As for the test, I am sure this is the case; I did not perform the
test first hand, but I am confident in the abilities of the person who
performed the test.

What the 'as designed' behavior states to me is:
If you want users who have floating licenses to use the mid-tier, you
need to buy more application and ar floating licenses than you would
if the same user base were to use only the native client.  This is as
designed and this is the price you have to pay to use Remedy via a
browser.

My interpretation of this is:
If I want a viable web interface to Remedy, I have the following options:
- purchase additional floating licenses, which will be a ratio between
my floating license user base and web adoption by that user base -
meaning it will change over time, depending on how many people use the
web interface and how many people have floating licenses.
- Purchase a third-party product that does not have this limitation
- Write my own web interface

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Grooms, Frederick W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My reply to then would include something like...

You state "This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user will
not be release until session times out. The behavior is as designed.".
What I would like to know is "Which session Timeout (The Server based
Floating License Timeout, the Mid-Tier based Session Timeout, or the
Apache/IIS based HTTP Timeout)?"

Also Axton... When you performed your Timeout test, did you restart your
Web Server and your JSP engine after setting the timeout to 2 minutes in
the Mid-Tier?

Fred

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

If you want to view the original problem, it can be accessed here:

http://bugs.arswiki.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10

This pertains to the problems that revolve around the mid-tier holding
on to floating licenses.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I received an update from BMC on this issue.  The defect they
> generated was CLOSED with a disposition of AS DESIGNED.  I do not
> agree with this decision, and I want to stir up some discussion in the

> community as to their stated direction, and my perceived DOA status of

> the mid-tier product in large scale environments as a result of this
> statement of direction:
>
> I received this update from BMC:
>
> The defect related to this issue: SW00264036 was closed with the
> following comments:
>
> Re midtier behavior, http is stateless so all user states are tracked
> on the midtier side. If the user closes all browser windows associated

> with a valid http session on midtier side, the session will remain
> until expires. This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user
> will not be release until session times out. The behavior is as
> designed. (In contrast to WUT which uses RPC, when the WUT is closed,
> it calls back to the AR Server to perform logout. If TCP is lost when
> the user closes WUT, then the license for that user also stays in
> limbo until times out.)
>
>
> This was the response back to BMC:
>
> - One aspect of the issue we raised was that we had added an Active
> Link that fires on Window Close to do the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP
> process, but that does not release the token either. I do not see the
> explanation below addressing that at all.
>
> - Also, I just ran a test to prove/disprove the statement below
> regarding the MT session handling. I set the session timeout to 2
> minutes on my Mid-Tier, logged in to MT w/ a floating license, killed
> the browser window, verified the user was still in possession of a
> floating token via the Manage User Licenses in the admin tool, and
> then waited about 10 minutes. The floating token had still not been
> released even though the session should have expired.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Using IE, it will appear the browser is timing out; you will need to

> > look at the servletexec stderr logs to see the java stack trace
> > triggered by the null pointer exception.
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> > On 3/22/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Daniel, create an active link that performs an open window using
> > > the current window (AL should fire from the form that has the AL
> > > that performs the exit-app on window close).  Let me know if you
> > > get a null pointer exception.
> > >
> > > Axton Grams
> > >
> > > On 3/22/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi All ,
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I said that a floating license is not release.
> > > >
> > > > I was wrong. The reason is that I had performed the test in the
> > > > following condition:
> > > >
> > > > - ARS version 6.3 patch 21
> > > > - AR mid tier 7.0.1 patch 001
> >

Help with Diary Field

2007-04-26 Thread Guillermo Alfredo Torres Barron
Hi dear listers

Exist a function or store procedure to read a diary filed directly from ODBC?

Thanks in advance

Greetings from Mexico

 

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Re: AR Import

2007-04-26 Thread Vyom Labs - ITSM Support

Hi
I am having  ARsystem 7.x and gone through the same query that is one of 
the fields contain path (F:/ab/cd/efg/) and then exported the data & 
then by using AR Import tool imported the same on a new form but i have 
not found any error in this process, that is i have got the same 
path  (F:/ab/cd/efg/) without removal of /'s. So please let me know the 
actual process in which you are facing the problem.


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Mayfield, Andy L. wrote:

Ok, I am stumped. I used AR Import to import some data to a new
form. One of the fields contains paths i.e.. F:/abc/def/ghij/, but after
the import process removed the /'s and I am left with F:abcdefghij ?
Anyone know what I did wrong? 


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Alabama Power Company
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Re: Removing an item from a menu

2007-04-26 Thread Vyom Labs - ITSM Support

Hi,
First thing deleting a group if not a good practice, thus if you ar 
using the OOB HelpDesk Application then the group settings are carried 
out using the Remedy Application Configuration (On the general tab step 
4). in which we can make the group status as Busy or On Vacation which 
removes the group name form the menu on the form.
If this is required other the the OOB HelpDesk the you need to customize 
the group form and have a drop down list  on the form on which indicate 
the group status as Active & Inactive. And create a workflow to check 
for the group states. After doing this you will able to see only those 
data which have been set as an Active.


Thanks,
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Neal Jacob wrote:

**

I am asking this question on behalf of our Remedy person:


When creating Groups, Categories, Types and Items,   we are able to
add, but are not able to make them inactive when they are no longer
needed.  The permissions appear to be correct.  We have tried using
the Active/Inactive Radio buttons which does not seem to work.  How
can we change or make groups inactive?

 


Thank you in advance,

 

 


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Desktop Systems Specialist

NRTC

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Re: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form

2007-04-26 Thread Melissa Reed
No, there is not an index table on a join form.  We have not added
additional ones from the db side.


On Apr 26, 11:11 am, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are these fields indexed?
>
> Joe
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>
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>
> We are experiencing problems when users search on the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA
> form, either via the form or through the canned SLA performance
> reports.  If you qualify on Arrival Time or Resolve Time, it can spike
> the Oralce CPU usage up to 25% or more (which is a huge amount for our
> environment).  The query is taking 5-10 minutes to return, longer
> during peak times of the day.
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Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client

2007-04-26 Thread Eli Schilling
Hello listers!
 
Recently I built some add-on workflow (Remedy 6.3) for the support
console to allow people to show or hide certain columns.  For the first
several days it worked great; each person gets a single record in a
seperate preference form; these preferences load when they open the
support console.  I have validated permissions on active links, fields,
etc; I even have log files SHOWING that the active link fired to make a
particular field visible.  However, the fields are no longer becoming
visible.  This is the behavior in the client application.  I had a user
open the mid-tier and launch the support console and the selected
columns DO appear.
 
So it worked for a few days...then stopped working on the user
tool...but a user can launch mid-tier and their preferences load just
fine.
 
I get this:
 -> Passed qualification -- perform if actions
  0: Set Characteristics
 For field -- Case Type (536880915)
   Change field to visible
 
Yet the field does not appear
 
Any thoughts?  This is the strangest thing.  P.S. as admin, it has not
stopped working for me...yet...
 
Thanks!
 
Eli

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Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
Roger, I see what you mean.. I'm actually using the manuals and taking a peek 
at the workflow now to understand what the application really requires in terms 
of configuration for it to work.. And in I think digging up the workflow is 
more useful than reading the manuals in understanding the application. I pretty 
much understood how the auto assignment process works after looking at the 
workflow (and not the manuals), so I really pity those new to the game who 
depend on manuals..

I'm still not too clear what the other values in the Event field are for.. Any 
takers on explaining that?

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


** 
Now you understand why it took me 30 days longer to get the client operational 
on 7 than I anticipated. There are a lot of touch points that are not well 
documented in the configuration manuals.

 
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


My problem was not that.. In the Event field I misunderstood its use.. In
fact I am still not too clear on what the other values in the Event field is
for.. But when I changed all of them to -General- it fixed the problem..

I had looked up the workflow that the auto assignment process was using that
helped me fix the issue.. The first condition there is ('Assignment Event' =
"- General -") AND ...

My values in the Company and Contact Company form were already -Global- and
didn't need a change..

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


In the assignment form, try to add a  -Global- assignment.

--
Jarl

On 4/26/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
> incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
> using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."
>
> What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found
in
> automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
> these test cases I am working on..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
> Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
> Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
> in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in
app
> event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
> Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
> can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> **
> Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
> doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
> saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get
triggered..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Can you be more specific as to what problems you are ecountering.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:44 PM
> Subject: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> Has anyone had issues having assignments in ITSM 7.0 to work? I am sure I
> have completed all the steps required to auto assign incidents / problems
> but it doesn't seem to be working.. So I'm afraid I am missing something..
> since V7 apps are way different from their earlier counterparts I'm not
sure
> what I am missing..
>
> Joe
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Re: Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client

2007-04-26 Thread Pargeter, Christie
Did you verify that there isn't some workflow after this point that
re-hides the field?



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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client


** 
Hello listers!
 
Recently I built some add-on workflow (Remedy 6.3) for the support
console to allow people to show or hide certain columns.  For the first
several days it worked great; each person gets a single record in a
seperate preference form; these preferences load when they open the
support console.  I have validated permissions on active links, fields,
etc; I even have log files SHOWING that the active link fired to make a
particular field visible.  However, the fields are no longer becoming
visible.  This is the behavior in the client application.  I had a user
open the mid-tier and launch the support console and the selected
columns DO appear.
 
So it worked for a few days...then stopped working on the user
tool...but a user can launch mid-tier and their preferences load just
fine.
 
I get this:
 -> Passed qualification -- perform if actions
  0: Set Characteristics
 For field -- Case Type (536880915)
   Change field to visible
 
Yet the field does not appear
 
Any thoughts?  This is the strangest thing.  P.S. as admin, it has not
stopped working for me...yet...
 
Thanks!
 
Eli
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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Easter, David
You may also wish to compare apples to apples.  Your tests are closing
the browser window without logging out.  This would be equivalent to the
statement you made about the WUT:

> If TCP is lost when the user closes WUT, then the license for that
user also stays in limbo until times out.

If one clicks on the "Logout" link within the web client, the license
should be released properly just as if you'd closed the WUT.  If one
closes the browser without logging out, you've effectively created the
situation where no message is sent back to AR System (i.e. just like if
TCP is lost for the WUT).

Because each browser window is self-sufficient (i.e. there's no parent
window that contains all of the sub-windows), there's currently no
simple way for AR System to know that the closing of a specific window
(i.e. by killing the browser or clicking on the 'x') indicates that all
windows should now be invalid.  

More simply put - Let's say you have browser windows 1, 2, and 3 open.
You 'x' out of window 2.  Should Windows 1 and 3 become invalid?  Most
folks would say 'no'.  Each window is independent.  Window 1 doesn't
know about Window 2 and 3.  So when Window 2 closes, 1 and 3 keep
running.

If you close Windows 1 and 3 using the 'x', AR System still doesn't know
if Window 2 is there or not (remember, you clicked on the 'x' - not
logout).  Since you closed the browser and did not logout, no message is
sent back to AR System letting the Mid-Tier know that the user isn't
just sitting there idle.  So the timeout starts ticking down...

In the WUT, you have a central application which governs all "windows".
If you close out a form, you have not left the central application (i.e.
the WUT).  When you do close the WUT, it's obvious that all sub windows
should be closed.

A longer term solution for this is certainly something being considered
- but the unique differences between a web session and a local
application will need to be overcome.  There are obviously ways to do it
(e.g. you could make the AR System web GUI a flash/Java application with
all windows contained within the single app; you could disable
multi-window capability and have only one browser window in use at a
time using forward/backward paging; designate one window as the "parent"
window and when you close that, all other windows become invalid, etc. )
- one would have to be sure that the method chosen fulfills all of the
usage cases and does not disrupt the use of the product that folks are
used to.

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
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Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

As to which session timeout, it would appear to be the floating license
timeout.  None of the others seem to have any bearing.

As for the test, I am sure this is the case; I did not perform the test
first hand, but I am confident in the abilities of the person who
performed the test.

What the 'as designed' behavior states to me is:
If you want users who have floating licenses to use the mid-tier, you
need to buy more application and ar floating licenses than you would if
the same user base were to use only the native client.  This is as
designed and this is the price you have to pay to use Remedy via a
browser.

My interpretation of this is:
If I want a viable web interface to Remedy, I have the following
options:
- purchase additional floating licenses, which will be a ratio between
my floating license user base and web adoption by that user base -
meaning it will change over time, depending on how many people use the
web interface and how many people have floating licenses.
- Purchase a third-party product that does not have this limitation
- Write my own web interface

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Grooms, Frederick W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My reply to then would include something like...
>
> You state "This means, any license acquired on behalf of the user will

> not be release until session times out. The behavior is as designed.".
> What I would like to know is "Which session Timeout (The Server based 
> Floating License Timeout, the Mid-Tier based Session Timeout, or the 
> Apache/IIS based HTTP Timeout)?"
>
> Also Axton... When you performed your Timeout test, did you restart 
> your Web Server and your JSP engine after setting the timeout to 2 
> minutes in the Mid-Tier?
>
> Fred
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 

ITSM 7.x - moving Support Group from one Support Organization to another

2007-04-26 Thread Christian Rom
Has anyone found a recommended way to do this ?
 
Do the changes propagate down to existing records ?
 
Ex: You already have dozens or hundreds of support groups in four support
organizations, but now the company does a reorg and there are five support
organizations (four existing plus a new one, to make it easier).
 
What if you wanted to move some of the existing Support Group from one
Support Organization to another ?
 
All the relevant fields in the 'Support Group' form are greyed out and I
cannot change the Support Organization.
 
I figured I could export the groups and import them back in with the new
Support Organization but that will probably not propagate down to the group
members and/or any open tickets.
 
It seems like you can't even create a new Support Organization without
creating at least one support group.
 
Rgds,
 
Christian H. Rom
Schlumberger - Service Desk Engineering
 

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Re: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
There will not be any indexes directly on a join.. what you need to do is
look at the primary and secondary forms from that join (and if one or both
of them are joins - go further down and look at the primary and secondary
forms in that join). Check if the fields that are being searched on, are
indexed on these base forms.. and if not index them..

Cheers

Joe

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:50 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form


No, there is not an index table on a join form.  We have not added
additional ones from the db side.


On Apr 26, 11:11 am, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are these fields indexed?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Performance problems with the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA form
>
> We are experiencing problems when users search on the HPD:HelpDesk_SLA
> form, either via the form or through the canned SLA performance
> reports.  If you qualify on Arrival Time or Resolve Time, it can spike
> the Oralce CPU usage up to 25% or more (which is a huge amount for our
> environment).  The query is taking 5-10 minutes to return, longer
> during peak times of the day.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this before?
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Login.jsp

2007-04-26 Thread John Kovalcik
Listers,

Does anyone know how to only pull in the users network ID  to 
populate Login.jsp in the midtier? I don't care about password.  Our 
midtier is on HPUX and we do have a Active Directory.


  Thanks,
John M. Kovalcik
Service Management Sr. Analyst
   ITIL Foundations Certified
Global Information Technology
Kennametal Inc.
 


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Re: Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client

2007-04-26 Thread Greg Donalson
Hi Eli,

 

I had something like this happen to me just the other day.  What I finally
did to make it work, was to go in and delete the .arf and .arv files.  After
I did this, it started working.  Hope this helps!

 

Greg Donalson

Entaq, Inc.

 

  _  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eli Schilling
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client

 

Hello listers!

 

Recently I built some add-on workflow (Remedy 6.3) for the support console
to allow people to show or hide certain columns.  For the first several days
it worked great; each person gets a single record in a seperate preference
form; these preferences load when they open the support console.  I have
validated permissions on active links, fields, etc; I even have log files
SHOWING that the active link fired to make a particular field visible.
However, the fields are no longer becoming visible.  This is the behavior in
the client application.  I had a user open the mid-tier and launch the
support console and the selected columns DO appear.

 

So it worked for a few days...then stopped working on the user tool...but a
user can launch mid-tier and their preferences load just fine.

 

I get this:

 -> Passed qualification -- perform if actions
  0: Set Characteristics
 For field -- Case Type (536880915)
   Change field to visible

 

Yet the field does not appear

 

Any thoughts?  This is the strangest thing.  P.S. as admin, it has not
stopped working for me...yet...

 

Thanks!

 

Eli

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Re: Workflow - Mid-tier vs Client

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

If you are using the advanced features of workflow on the mid-tier, I
know they warned that it would not always work properly.  If not,
check the permissions on the columns you are trying to unhide and make
sure that your users have permissions to view the columns.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Eli Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**

Hello listers!

Recently I built some add-on workflow (Remedy 6.3) for the support console
to allow people to show or hide certain columns.  For the first several days
it worked great; each person gets a single record in a seperate preference
form; these preferences load when they open the support console.  I have
validated permissions on active links, fields, etc; I even have log files
SHOWING that the active link fired to make a particular field visible.
However, the fields are no longer becoming visible.  This is the behavior in
the client application.  I had a user open the mid-tier and launch the
support console and the selected columns DO appear.

So it worked for a few days...then stopped working on the user tool...but a
user can launch mid-tier and their preferences load just fine.

I get this:
 -> Passed qualification -- perform if actions
  0: Set Characteristics
 For field -- Case Type (536880915)
   Change field to visible

Yet the field does not appear

Any thoughts?  This is the strangest thing.  P.S. as admin, it has not
stopped working for me...yet...

Thanks!

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Re: Removing an item from a menu

2007-04-26 Thread Neal Jacob
Thank you everyone for your time and for your replies.  This did not
provide a resolution.  

 

 

 

Neal Jacob MCP, MCDST

Desktop Systems Specialist

NRTC

http://www.nrtc.coop

 

 


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Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
Incident Owner This is a new concept from ITIL and it would normally be the 
Service desk
 
Infrastructure Change Manager This is another new concept from ITIL
 
Infrastructure Change Assignee This is what we used to assign a change to a 
group to work it
 
We now have Service Requests that create Incidents and Changes both Request 
Manager and Request Assignee are new roles that will be used when BMC/Remedy 
release the next generation of Service Request
 
Task Assignee same a Change Assignee for the task
 
Solution Assignment If there is a form there must be assignment
 
Problem Manager another ITIL concept
 
Unavailability Assignment If there is a form there must be assignment this of 
course is related to AM.
 
If I am wrong let me know I used knowledge from doing the ITSM 7 install ITIL 
foundations training and common sense. 
 
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Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


**  
Roger, I see what you mean.. I'm actually using the manuals and taking a peek 
at the workflow now to understand what the application really requires in terms 
of configuration for it to work.. And in I think digging up the workflow is 
more useful than reading the manuals in understanding the application. I pretty 
much understood how the auto assignment process works after looking at the 
workflow (and not the manuals), so I really pity those new to the game who 
depend on manuals..
 
I'm still not too clear what the other values in the Event field are for.. Any 
takers on explaining that?
 
Joe
 
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Behalf Of Roger Justice
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


** 
Now you understand why it took me 30 days longer to get the client operational 
on 7 than I anticipated. There are a lot of touch points that are not well 
documented in the configuration manuals.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


My problem was not that.. In the Event field I misunderstood its use.. In
fact I am still not too clear on what the other values in the Event field is
for.. But when I changed all of them to -General- it fixed the problem..

I had looked up the workflow that the auto assignment process was using that
helped me fix the issue.. The first condition there is ('Assignment Event' =
"- General -") AND ...

My values in the Company and Contact Company form were already -Global- and
didn't need a change..

Joe

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0


In the assignment form, try to add a  -Global- assignment.

--
Jarl

On 4/26/07, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> That's where I am seeing an error.. in the creation process of
> incidents/Change data.. The error is "ARCreateEntry - No groups were found
> using automated routing. You need to manually select a group."
>
> What are the possible reasons why I would get this error no groups found
in
> automated routing when I think I have set the groups and their skills for
> these test cases I am working on..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:41 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
> **
> Service Requests do not get assigned they create either an Incident or
> Change and then the Incident or Change gets assigned. If you open the
> Service Request form search all service requests and do not see in process
> in the request ID go to the Change/Incident data tab abd you will see in
app
> event status an error. By reviewing the error you should see that the
> Incident/Change could not be created. If Auto Assignment is not working it
> can fail also if you have Tier 1,2,3 that is not valid it will fail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>
>
> **
> Thanks for writing back.. Its the auto assignment of Service Requests that
> doesn't seem to be happening.. When a Service request is created it gets
> saved but the auto assignment / notification doesn't seem to get
triggered..
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Assignment configurations for ITSM 7.0
>

Re: ITSM 7.x - moving Support Group from one Support Organization to another

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Justice
In the Group form the long group name stores the full name and it is editiable. 
My suggestion would be to create a new group and capture the Active Link and 
Filter logs to determine every where the group data is stored. The worst case 
is a lot of manual entry best case is you will determine a work around. 
 
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Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 2:48 PM
Subject: ITSM 7.x - moving Support Group from one Support Organization to 
another


** 
Has anyone found a recommended way to do this ?
 
Do the changes propagate down to existing records ?
 
Ex: You already have dozens or hundreds of support groups in four support 
organizations, but now the company does a reorg and there are five support 
organizations (four existing plus a new one, to make it easier).
 
What if you wanted to move some of the existing Support Group from one Support 
Organization to another ?
 
All the relevant fields in the 'Support Group' form are greyed out and I cannot 
change the Support Organization.
 
I figured I could export the groups and import them back in with the new 
Support Organization but that will probably not propagate down to the group 
members and/or any open tickets.
 
It seems like you can't even create a new Support Organization without creating 
at least one support group.
 
Rgds,
 
Christian H. Rom
Schlumberger - Service Desk Engineering
 
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Re: Automated search from outside remedy

2007-04-26 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
How about this:

 

USE arsystem

DECLARE @timestamp AS BIGINT

SET @timestamp = DATEDIFF(s, '1/1/1970',GETUTCDATE())

SELECT * FROM your_form_name_here WHERE (create_date >= (@timestamp -
2*60*60)) AND ((create_date - 3600) > date_received

 

The key here is that the number stored in the database is not a datetime
but rather an integer.  So the only really complicated part is creating
an MS SQL equivalent to the Remedy $TIMESTAMP$.

 

Norm

 

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DSL - How does it normalize?

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Parker

Hi everyone:

I have a question regarding the DSL that I just can't seem to figure out.

In the documentation for the DSL, CMDB, Archtecture, etc. it states that the 
"DSL is used to normalize the data going into the CMDB".


However, I've been searching through all the documentation, and spent a day 
going through the workflow, forms, active links, filters, etc. that touch 
the DSL, and I simply cannot see how the DSL interacts with the CMDB at all.


The closest interaction with anything regarding the DSL is with Contracts 
and the Product Catalog (and even that is pretty limited)


Does anyone have any idea how the DSL normalizes data going into the CMDB? 
Or better yet, even how to set it up to normalize data that goes in the 
CMDB?


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Re: DSL - How does it normalize?

2007-04-26 Thread Alfonso Eric B Contr 95 CG/SCCSS
I posed the same question to BMC and received the response below.

>From BMC:
How is the data normalized from DSL and Inventory?
 
Normalization happens inside the "inv_application" view or
"mrb_inv_application" view in case of CD-integration (for EIE purposes).
It happens "on-the-fly" where we join Configuration Management views
with the cache DSL data in certain  tables in the CM database.  When
data is inserted into the Inventory database from the inv plugin, its
inserted NON-normalized.  The normalization happens on the fly when
someone wants to view the app data.
 
There is a stored procedure "refresh_pdl_tables" which is used to
normalize the data right away so that we don't have to go over the Data
base-link for EVERY single application normalization.  The procedure
will refresh the PDL tables. On SQL there is a explicit job called
"Refresh PDL Tables" which can be scheduled to run every night at
11:59pm which invokes the "refresh_pdl_tables" stored procedure.  I
believe there is no such "job" on Oracle, but I'm still verifying the
behavior and will update you once I have confirmed.
 
Regarding documentation on the above topics, I could not find a detailed
description explaining the above, so I will be filing a defect for
documentation to include a section in the DSL docs which details the
process for normalizing the data in the Inventory database against the
DSL.  


Eric Alfonso, Contractor, 95 CG/SCCSS 
Remedy Support Team 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:16 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: DSL - How does it normalize?

Hi everyone:

I have a question regarding the DSL that I just can't seem to figure
out.

In the documentation for the DSL, CMDB, Archtecture, etc. it states that
the "DSL is used to normalize the data going into the CMDB".

However, I've been searching through all the documentation, and spent a
day going through the workflow, forms, active links, filters, etc. that
touch the DSL, and I simply cannot see how the DSL interacts with the
CMDB at all.

The closest interaction with anything regarding the DSL is with
Contracts and the Product Catalog (and even that is pretty limited)

Does anyone have any idea how the DSL normalizes data going into the
CMDB? 
Or better yet, even how to set it up to normalize data that goes in the
CMDB?

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Re: ITSM 7.x - moving Support Group from one Support Organization to another

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
MessageI'd love to know this too as this would help me in my current project
where I am working on a migration from Magic to Remedy. It would be real
neat if I could create importable csv files for Remedy for the various
configuration forms involved.. This is one of the reasons why recently I had
posted a thread regarding massive load of data to V7 apps.. I'm relatively
new to V7 ITSM apps as my first exposure to these apps was only around
November very briefly and then since January or so I had been working on
other things.. So there is still some ground I have still to break in..

Sorry Christian, I know you might have been looking for solutions with this
response but its one of those 'Oh-I-Need-That-Sort-Of-Information-Too' kind
of response..

If I do have any experiences along the way I'll share..

Cheers..

Joe

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**
Has anyone found a recommended way to do this ?

Do the changes propagate down to existing records ?

Ex: You already have dozens or hundreds of support groups in four support
organizations, but now the company does a reorg and there are five support
organizations (four existing plus a new one, to make it easier).

What if you wanted to move some of the existing Support Group from one
Support Organization to another ?

All the relevant fields in the 'Support Group' form are greyed out and I
cannot change the Support Organization.

I figured I could export the groups and import them back in with the new
Support Organization but that will probably not propagate down to the group
members and/or any open tickets.

It seems like you can't even create a new Support Organization without
creating at least one support group.

Rgds,

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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

Last message bounced because it was too long.

I know one is stateful and the other is stateless, but once the
browser's license is in limbo, there is no way to release it, not even
logging back in and clicking logout will release the license.

The precedence as to what is expected from floating licenses was set
with the user tool over the last 14 years.  Any web interface that is
developed needs to exist, at a minimum, within the confines of this
precedence.  This can be measured by determining if you need to
purchase additional licenses to effectively utilize an interface that
is bundled with the arsever.

Why not extend the current architecture and create a session object
for each window that gets opened, then use the javascript unload
listener to remove the session object when a window is closed (by
clicking X).  Each time a window is closed (js unload event), the
javascript could check to see if the session object for that window is
the last one, and if it is, creates an xmlhttprequest, sends the
request to a servlet to end the session (e.g., release the licenses).
A cookie could be used instead of a session object if desired.

A simple example of the unload event can be viewed at:
http://www.dcs.uwaterloo.ca/~anderson/JavaScript/ex_load_unload.html

This javascript fires when I click the X in the browser window; why
not use the same hook for the mid-tier?

Why could the unload event not create an xmlHttpRequest, send the
request to a servlet within the mid-tier to end the session (e.g.,
release the licenses).  Unless I'm totally missing something, it looks
like the hooks are there, but the code to utilize them is not.  I'm
not saying it's a simple thing to write, but it looks to be possible.


A more direct question to BMC.  If this is the current situation, how
am I supposed to roll this out for wide-scale usage without the
hundreds of thousands of dollars I would need to  purchase additional
floating licenses?

Take my scenario as an example.  I have an approval process.  Users
approve requests through the mid-tier.  When an approval process is
started, 40 to 50 signature lines are generated.  Roughtly 80% of the
approver base has a floating licenses (note that the approval
interface is fully capable of operating with a read license).  Now I
have up to 50 people hitting my mid-tier server at roughly the same
time (let's say within the same hour).  None of them click the logout
button after approving their request.  Now I have 40-50 of my 220
floating licenses tied up for the next hour.  I start to get a flood
of ticket from my support desk, operations center, etc. that they are
receiving some type of error constantly popping up on their screen
stating:

No free floating write license tokens available.

What are my options here?
- don't use the mid-tier?
- buy another 50 floating licenses?
- write my own web application that effectively manages floating licenses?
- tell my users to live with the error, and notify them they can't
user remedy until they stop getting the error, which should hopefully
occur within the next hour some time?

None of these are good options when all I need is a web interface into
my Remedy server that is capable of operating under the same licensing
requirements as the native client.

Let's face it, users are going to click the X in the top right corner
when they are done using the mid-tier.  It's what people do when they
are through using a web browser and it's something that has to be
dealt with.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You may also wish to compare apples to apples.  Your tests are closing
the browser window without logging out.  This would be equivalent to the
statement you made about the WUT:

> If TCP is lost when the user closes WUT, then the license for that
user also stays in limbo until times out.

If one clicks on the "Logout" link within the web client, the license
should be released properly just as if you'd closed the WUT.  If one
closes the browser without logging out, you've effectively created the
situation where no message is sent back to AR System (i.e. just like if
TCP is lost for the WUT).

Because each browser window is self-sufficient (i.e. there's no parent
window that contains all of the sub-windows), there's currently no
simple way for AR System to know that the closing of a specific window
(i.e. by killing the browser or clicking on the 'x') indicates that all
windows should now be invalid.

More simply put - Let's say you have browser windows 1, 2, and 3 open.
You 'x' out of window 2.  Should Windows 1 and 3 become invalid?  Most
folks would say 'no'.  Each window is independent.  Window 1 doesn't
know about Window 2 and 3.  So when Window 2 closes, 1 and 3 keep
running.

If you close Windows 1 and 3 using the 'x', AR System still doesn't know
if Window 2 is there or not (remember, you clicked on the 'x' - not
logout).  Since you closed the browser and did not logout, no message is
sent back to AR Syste

Re: DSL - How does it normalize?

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Parker

Hi Alfonso:

I agree - that works great...if someone has Marimba (or Discovery Service as 
I think its called now) - but what if someone wants to use SMS (or other 
discovery method) as their source?  Based on the research I've done so far, 
it looks like those poor folks have to come up with their own methods of 
normalizing data that goes into the CMDB.


I suppose the bottom line is that it "encourages" people to purchase BMC's 
discovery products...but still...



From: Alfonso Eric B Contr 95 CG/SCCSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: DSL - How does it normalize?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:23:28 -0700

I posed the same question to BMC and received the response below.

From BMC:
How is the data normalized from DSL and Inventory?

Normalization happens inside the "inv_application" view or
"mrb_inv_application" view in case of CD-integration (for EIE purposes).
It happens "on-the-fly" where we join Configuration Management views
with the cache DSL data in certain  tables in the CM database.  When
data is inserted into the Inventory database from the inv plugin, its
inserted NON-normalized.  The normalization happens on the fly when
someone wants to view the app data.

There is a stored procedure "refresh_pdl_tables" which is used to
normalize the data right away so that we don't have to go over the Data
base-link for EVERY single application normalization.  The procedure
will refresh the PDL tables. On SQL there is a explicit job called
"Refresh PDL Tables" which can be scheduled to run every night at
11:59pm which invokes the "refresh_pdl_tables" stored procedure.  I
believe there is no such "job" on Oracle, but I'm still verifying the
behavior and will update you once I have confirmed.

Regarding documentation on the above topics, I could not find a detailed
description explaining the above, so I will be filing a defect for
documentation to include a section in the DSL docs which details the
process for normalizing the data in the Inventory database against the
DSL.


Eric Alfonso, Contractor, 95 CG/SCCSS
Remedy Support Team
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: DSL - How does it normalize?

Hi everyone:

I have a question regarding the DSL that I just can't seem to figure
out.

In the documentation for the DSL, CMDB, Archtecture, etc. it states that
the "DSL is used to normalize the data going into the CMDB".

However, I've been searching through all the documentation, and spent a
day going through the workflow, forms, active links, filters, etc. that
touch the DSL, and I simply cannot see how the DSL interacts with the
CMDB at all.

The closest interaction with anything regarding the DSL is with
Contracts and the Product Catalog (and even that is pretty limited)

Does anyone have any idea how the DSL normalizes data going into the
CMDB?
Or better yet, even how to set it up to normalize data that goes in the
CMDB?

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Re: DSL - How does it normalize?

2007-04-26 Thread Adam D Pederson
I have it on good authority from BMC that they understand that this is an
issue and that future releases of EIE and CMDB will accommodate using the
DSL to normalize other sources of data.

Regards,
 
Adam Pederson
Practice Director
IT Service Management Practice
Xinify Technologies, Inc.
Mobile: +1 925 895 9500
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: DSL - How does it normalize?

Hi Alfonso:

I agree - that works great...if someone has Marimba (or Discovery Service as

I think its called now) - but what if someone wants to use SMS (or other 
discovery method) as their source?  Based on the research I've done so far, 
it looks like those poor folks have to come up with their own methods of 
normalizing data that goes into the CMDB.

I suppose the bottom line is that it "encourages" people to purchase BMC's 
discovery products...but still...

>From: Alfonso Eric B Contr 95 CG/SCCSS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: DSL - How does it normalize?
>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:23:28 -0700
>
>I posed the same question to BMC and received the response below.
>
>From BMC:
>How is the data normalized from DSL and Inventory?
>
>Normalization happens inside the "inv_application" view or
>"mrb_inv_application" view in case of CD-integration (for EIE purposes).
>It happens "on-the-fly" where we join Configuration Management views
>with the cache DSL data in certain  tables in the CM database.  When
>data is inserted into the Inventory database from the inv plugin, its
>inserted NON-normalized.  The normalization happens on the fly when
>someone wants to view the app data.
>
>There is a stored procedure "refresh_pdl_tables" which is used to
>normalize the data right away so that we don't have to go over the Data
>base-link for EVERY single application normalization.  The procedure
>will refresh the PDL tables. On SQL there is a explicit job called
>"Refresh PDL Tables" which can be scheduled to run every night at
>11:59pm which invokes the "refresh_pdl_tables" stored procedure.  I
>believe there is no such "job" on Oracle, but I'm still verifying the
>behavior and will update you once I have confirmed.
>
>Regarding documentation on the above topics, I could not find a detailed
>description explaining the above, so I will be filing a defect for
>documentation to include a section in the DSL docs which details the
>process for normalizing the data in the Inventory database against the
>DSL.
>
>
>Eric Alfonso, Contractor, 95 CG/SCCSS
>Remedy Support Team
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Parker
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:16 PM
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: DSL - How does it normalize?
>
>Hi everyone:
>
>I have a question regarding the DSL that I just can't seem to figure
>out.
>
>In the documentation for the DSL, CMDB, Archtecture, etc. it states that
>the "DSL is used to normalize the data going into the CMDB".
>
>However, I've been searching through all the documentation, and spent a
>day going through the workflow, forms, active links, filters, etc. that
>touch the DSL, and I simply cannot see how the DSL interacts with the
>CMDB at all.
>
>The closest interaction with anything regarding the DSL is with
>Contracts and the Product Catalog (and even that is pretty limited)
>
>Does anyone have any idea how the DSL normalizes data going into the
>CMDB?
>Or better yet, even how to set it up to normalize data that goes in the
>CMDB?
>
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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread CONDREA, Daniel
Hi All,

Just use PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP

It works OK for ARS 7 with mid-tier 7

Daniel

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

Last message bounced because it was too long.

I know one is stateful and the other is stateless, but once the
browser's license is in limbo, there is no way to release it, not even
logging back in and clicking logout will release the license.

The precedence as to what is expected from floating licenses was set
with the user tool over the last 14 years.  Any web interface that is
developed needs to exist, at a minimum, within the confines of this
precedence.  This can be measured by determining if you need to purchase
additional licenses to effectively utilize an interface that is bundled
with the arsever.

Why not extend the current architecture and create a session object for
each window that gets opened, then use the javascript unload listener to
remove the session object when a window is closed (by clicking X).  Each
time a window is closed (js unload event), the javascript could check to
see if the session object for that window is the last one, and if it is,
creates an xmlhttprequest, sends the request to a servlet to end the
session (e.g., release the licenses).
A cookie could be used instead of a session object if desired.

A simple example of the unload event can be viewed at:
http://www.dcs.uwaterloo.ca/~anderson/JavaScript/ex_load_unload.html

This javascript fires when I click the X in the browser window; why not
use the same hook for the mid-tier?

Why could the unload event not create an xmlHttpRequest, send the
request to a servlet within the mid-tier to end the session (e.g.,
release the licenses).  Unless I'm totally missing something, it looks
like the hooks are there, but the code to utilize them is not.  I'm not
saying it's a simple thing to write, but it looks to be possible.


A more direct question to BMC.  If this is the current situation, how am
I supposed to roll this out for wide-scale usage without the hundreds of
thousands of dollars I would need to  purchase additional floating
licenses?

Take my scenario as an example.  I have an approval process.  Users
approve requests through the mid-tier.  When an approval process is
started, 40 to 50 signature lines are generated.  Roughtly 80% of the
approver base has a floating licenses (note that the approval interface
is fully capable of operating with a read license).  Now I have up to 50
people hitting my mid-tier server at roughly the same time (let's say
within the same hour).  None of them click the logout button after
approving their request.  Now I have 40-50 of my 220 floating licenses
tied up for the next hour.  I start to get a flood of ticket from my
support desk, operations center, etc. that they are receiving some type
of error constantly popping up on their screen
stating:

No free floating write license tokens available.

What are my options here?
- don't use the mid-tier?
- buy another 50 floating licenses?
- write my own web application that effectively manages floating
licenses?
- tell my users to live with the error, and notify them they can't user
remedy until they stop getting the error, which should hopefully occur
within the next hour some time?

None of these are good options when all I need is a web interface into
my Remedy server that is capable of operating under the same licensing
requirements as the native client.

Let's face it, users are going to click the X in the top right corner
when they are done using the mid-tier.  It's what people do when they
are through using a web browser and it's something that has to be dealt
with.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may also wish to compare apples to apples.  Your tests are closing

> the browser window without logging out.  This would be equivalent to 
> the statement you made about the WUT:
>
> > If TCP is lost when the user closes WUT, then the license for that
> user also stays in limbo until times out.
>
> If one clicks on the "Logout" link within the web client, the license 
> should be released properly just as if you'd closed the WUT.  If one 
> closes the browser without logging out, you've effectively created the

> situation where no message is sent back to AR System (i.e. just like 
> if TCP is lost for the WUT).
>
> Because each browser window is self-sufficient (i.e. there's no parent

> window that contains all of the sub-windows), there's currently no 
> simple way for AR System to know that the closing of a specific window

> (i.e. by killing the browser or clicking on the 'x') indicates that 
> all windows should now be invalid.
>
> More simply put - Let's say you have browser windows 1, 2, and 3 open.
> You 'x' out of window 2.  Should Windows 1 and 3 become invalid?  Most

> folks would say 'no'.

Email engine outgoing problem

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Gates
Hello Listers,

I'm running a 5.1 server on a solaris machine and am having some trouble
with the email notifications.  My messages are being created properly
and queued in the AR System Email Messages form with the 'Send Message'
set to "Yes".

My outgoing mailbox is enabled, with an email server type as SMTP
polling at 1 minute, no SSL to our SMTP server (which wants no
authentication).

>From everything I can tell, it seems to not be polling for messages to
send.  It seems to have happened after a system reboot (AR System
reboot) a few days ago (which according to AR Monitor was graceful).  No
configurations to the email setup changed (that I know of) during or
since that reboot.

Does anyone know where I can look to see what happened, or have any idea
on what might have?

Thanks in advance,
-Mike

PS: The incoming email engine is different.  A version 3 armaild that is
working fine on the same system.

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Re: Email engine outgoing problem

2007-04-26 Thread Joe D'Souza
What are the errors that you can see in the error message form of the email
engine?

Joe

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Hello Listers,

I'm running a 5.1 server on a solaris machine and am having some trouble
with the email notifications.  My messages are being created properly
and queued in the AR System Email Messages form with the 'Send Message'
set to "Yes".

My outgoing mailbox is enabled, with an email server type as SMTP
polling at 1 minute, no SSL to our SMTP server (which wants no
authentication).

>From everything I can tell, it seems to not be polling for messages to
send.  It seems to have happened after a system reboot (AR System
reboot) a few days ago (which according to AR Monitor was graceful).  No
configurations to the email setup changed (that I know of) during or
since that reboot.

Does anyone know where I can look to see what happened, or have any idea
on what might have?

Thanks in advance,
-Mike

PS: The incoming email engine is different.  A version 3 armaild that is
working fine on the same system.


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Re: Freeing licenses

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

Daniel:

Please test this and let me know your results:

- log into mid-tier
- close the browser window
- log back into mid-tier
- trigger the PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP however you want

The license will remain allocated


Now test this:

- create a form that executes PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP on window close
- create a button on that form that triggers a window open to the current window

The servlet will throw a NullPointerException and the browser will
either hang or return a js error (depending on what browser you are
using).


That isn't a solution to anything.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, CONDREA, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,

Just use PERFORM-ACTION-EXIT-APP

It works OK for ARS 7 with mid-tier 7

Daniel

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Freeing licenses

Last message bounced because it was too long.

I know one is stateful and the other is stateless, but once the
browser's license is in limbo, there is no way to release it, not even
logging back in and clicking logout will release the license.

The precedence as to what is expected from floating licenses was set
with the user tool over the last 14 years.  Any web interface that is
developed needs to exist, at a minimum, within the confines of this
precedence.  This can be measured by determining if you need to purchase
additional licenses to effectively utilize an interface that is bundled
with the arsever.

Why not extend the current architecture and create a session object for
each window that gets opened, then use the javascript unload listener to
remove the session object when a window is closed (by clicking X).  Each
time a window is closed (js unload event), the javascript could check to
see if the session object for that window is the last one, and if it is,
creates an xmlhttprequest, sends the request to a servlet to end the
session (e.g., release the licenses).
A cookie could be used instead of a session object if desired.

A simple example of the unload event can be viewed at:
http://www.dcs.uwaterloo.ca/~anderson/JavaScript/ex_load_unload.html

This javascript fires when I click the X in the browser window; why not
use the same hook for the mid-tier?

Why could the unload event not create an xmlHttpRequest, send the
request to a servlet within the mid-tier to end the session (e.g.,
release the licenses).  Unless I'm totally missing something, it looks
like the hooks are there, but the code to utilize them is not.  I'm not
saying it's a simple thing to write, but it looks to be possible.


A more direct question to BMC.  If this is the current situation, how am
I supposed to roll this out for wide-scale usage without the hundreds of
thousands of dollars I would need to  purchase additional floating
licenses?

Take my scenario as an example.  I have an approval process.  Users
approve requests through the mid-tier.  When an approval process is
started, 40 to 50 signature lines are generated.  Roughtly 80% of the
approver base has a floating licenses (note that the approval interface
is fully capable of operating with a read license).  Now I have up to 50
people hitting my mid-tier server at roughly the same time (let's say
within the same hour).  None of them click the logout button after
approving their request.  Now I have 40-50 of my 220 floating licenses
tied up for the next hour.  I start to get a flood of ticket from my
support desk, operations center, etc. that they are receiving some type
of error constantly popping up on their screen
stating:

No free floating write license tokens available.

What are my options here?
- don't use the mid-tier?
- buy another 50 floating licenses?
- write my own web application that effectively manages floating
licenses?
- tell my users to live with the error, and notify them they can't user
remedy until they stop getting the error, which should hopefully occur
within the next hour some time?

None of these are good options when all I need is a web interface into
my Remedy server that is capable of operating under the same licensing
requirements as the native client.

Let's face it, users are going to click the X in the top right corner
when they are done using the mid-tier.  It's what people do when they
are through using a web browser and it's something that has to be dealt
with.

Axton Grams

On 4/26/07, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may also wish to compare apples to apples.  Your tests are closing

> the browser window without logging out.  This would be equivalent to
> the statement you made about the WUT:
>
> > If TCP is lost when the user closes WUT, then the license for that
> user also stays in limbo until times out.
>
> If one clicks on the "Logout" link within the web client, the license
> should be released properly just as if you'd closed the WUT.  If one
> closes the browser without logging out

Re: Email engine outgoing problem

2007-04-26 Thread SUBSCRIBE arslist Neel
Hello Mike,

Make sure that IIS Admin servive and SMTP service is up and running on
the server. I would also recommend to keep polling interval at 10
minutes at least as we ran into some issues with less than 5 minute
polling interval time. Also, even if message status says "YES", you can
still have errors. Click on error tab to make sure there are no errors.

Best Regards,

Neel Gautam.
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Gates
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Email engine outgoing problem

Hello Listers,

I'm running a 5.1 server on a solaris machine and am having some trouble
with the email notifications.  My messages are being created properly
and queued in the AR System Email Messages form with the 'Send Message'
set to "Yes".

My outgoing mailbox is enabled, with an email server type as SMTP
polling at 1 minute, no SSL to our SMTP server (which wants no
authentication).

>From everything I can tell, it seems to not be polling for messages to
send.  It seems to have happened after a system reboot (AR System
reboot) a few days ago (which according to AR Monitor was graceful).  No
configurations to the email setup changed (that I know of) during or
since that reboot.

Does anyone know where I can look to see what happened, or have any idea
on what might have?

Thanks in advance,
-Mike

PS: The incoming email engine is different.  A version 3 armaild that is
working fine on the same system.


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Re: Sending notification via SMS

2007-04-26 Thread Remedy Developer

Hi,
   I tried using Run Process with the command PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-URL
"url". It works by opening the browser and executing it also. But it does so
on the client. I would like to perform the same on the Remedy server which
runs on Solaris and then close the browser. I tried using @@: and also
@server_name: before the above Run Process command . But it does not work.
Can I use any other action that would run on the server and execute the url?

Do let me know.

Rgds,
Frank


On 4/26/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Agree..

I think there is approx 11 years ago we send the the first SMS from AR
System server...
(back then it was just a simple telnet interface...)

--
Jarl


On 4/25/07, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Some folks don't use it as much as others.  Some service providers do
> offer a web interface that can be utilized if one knows how to encode
> the url to send the message.  I also believe that I have seen perl
> modules and java code to make the connection through various providers.
>
> There are a few of us that have been sending messages to service
> providers in different parts of the world for several years.  Just like
> the AR System, there is more than one way to get there.  It all depends
> on the knowledge, service provider, available methods, and costs.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CONDREA, Daniel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:06 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
>
> Hi All,
>
> For "heavy gurus in ARS". You hnow NOTHING about GSM.
>
> Daniel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:41 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
>
> Frank,
>
> I would also suggest a command line option.
>
> Take a wack at wget or maybe even (if needed) a Perl script to talk to
> the web site. That should get the job done on any OS were the ARS server
> can run.
>
> If you wanted to get real fancy you could write an ARF plugin to do the
> work. (Maybe even use the Java Scripting plugin to get the job done with
> some Java code.)
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
> On 4/25/07, Remedy Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > **
> > Thanks. However I do not want to open any browser, just want to run
> the url.
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Frank
>
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remedy Developer
> > >  Sent: 04-25-2007 01:42 PM
> > >
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks for quick response. The Remedy Server is on
> Solaris. Will this still work since you've mentioned VBS working in Win
> environment.
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
>
> > >
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Remedy Developer
> > >  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:11 PM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > >  I need help for notification via SMS (Short Messaging
> Service) to mobile phone from HPD:Help Desk form. All I have is a url
> link which when opened from  a browser sends sms.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Remedy ARS version is 6.3, HD 6.0, Email Engine 6.3 on Solaris
> 5.9. I tried sending a sms using the url from the browser from Remedy
> server. It went through. How do I send a sms notification from HPD:Help
> Desk form to mobile phone.
> > >
> > >
> > > One of my colleagues asked me to create a field and then set the URL
> static values to that field and then concatenate the dynamic values like
> mobile no. and text with the same.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help me.
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
>
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Re: Sending notification via SMS

2007-04-26 Thread Axton

Use this:
http://www.cbi.pku.edu.cn/Doc/CS/wget/man.wget.html

If you don't have it, get it from here:
http://www.sunfreeware.com/programlistsparc9.html#wget

If you don't have root access, compile it with a prefix that points to
somewhere you own.
http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/wget/wget-1.10.2.tar.gz

Axton

On 4/27/07, Remedy Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**
Hi,
I tried using Run Process with the command PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-URL
"url". It works by opening the browser and executing it also. But it does so
on the client. I would like to perform the same on the Remedy server which
runs on Solaris and then close the browser. I tried using @@: and also
@server_name: before the above Run Process command . But it does not work.
Can I use any other action that would run on the server and execute the url?

Do let me know.

Rgds,
Frank


On 4/26/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Agree..
>
> I think there is approx 11 years ago we send the the first SMS from AR
> System server...
> (back then it was just a simple telnet interface...)
>
> --
> Jarl
>
>
> On 4/25/07, Shellman, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Some folks don't use it as much as others.  Some service providers do
> > offer a web interface that can be utilized if one knows how to encode
> > the url to send the message.  I also believe that I have seen perl
> > modules and java code to make the connection through various providers.
> >
> > There are a few of us that have been sending messages to service
> > providers in different parts of the world for several years.  Just like
> > the AR System, there is more than one way to get there.  It all depends
> > on the knowledge, service provider, available methods, and costs.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CONDREA, Daniel
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:06 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > For "heavy gurus in ARS". You hnow NOTHING about GSM.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:41 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> > I would also suggest a command line option.
> >
> > Take a wack at wget or maybe even (if needed) a Perl script to talk to
> > the web site. That should get the job done on any OS were the ARS server
> > can run.
> >
> > If you wanted to get real fancy you could write an ARF plugin to do the
> > work. (Maybe even use the Java Scripting plugin to get the job done with
> > some Java code.)
> >
> > --
> > Carey Matthew Black
> > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
> >
> > Love, then teach
> > Solution = People + Process + Tools
> > Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
> >
> > On 4/25/07, Remedy Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > **
> > > Thanks. However I do not want to open any browser, just want to run
> > the url.
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Frank
> >
> > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remedy Developer
> > > >  Sent: 04-25-2007 01:42 PM
> > > >
> > > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > > Subject: Re: Sending notification via SMS
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Daniel,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for quick response. The Remedy Server is on
> > Solaris. Will this still work since you've mentioned VBS working in Win
> > environment.
> > > >
> > > > Rgds,
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > From: Action Request System discussion
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Re: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application from outside ?

2007-04-26 Thread Rudi
Where I can find out more about this OLE interface? Also the SSO web
interface is interesting... 
The way by the ARTask.exe is very easy, but it needs a file (I found only
this parameter) and to create a file is in some environments not allowed.

> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
> Sent: Donnerstag, 26. April 2007 16:06
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Possible to jump into Remedy User Application 
> from outside ?
> 
> Rudi,
> 
> There is even an OLE interface that would let you do fun 
> things like open a form. Set some field values and if you get 
> tricky enough with "SendKeys" you can then execute the search 
> for the user. (But the CI stuff might just require you push a 
> button which can be done with OLE if memory serves.) Or you 
> can build an Active Link Guide that could be called.
> 
> You have options.
> 
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
> 
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
> 
> 
> On 4/26/07, Rudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use a list generator with a possibibilty to make program changes 
> > very easy. So it is possible to jump into an other program over 
> > command line call or OLM using list entries as parameter. 
> We use this 
> > for example to jump from a report direct to the ERP system 
> (articel, 
> > orders and so on) or a label program and so on.
> > It is possible to  jump into Remedy User Application (v. 
> 7.0.00) from 
> > outside ? For example I need to jump direct to an computer 
> CI and the 
> > CI Number is the parameter.
> >
> > Mit freundlichem Gruss / Kind regards
> >
> > Rudolf Boettcher
> >
> > 
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notifier for x platforms

2007-04-26 Thread Serouche Rahimpour

dear listers,

simple question: is there a product out there (to buy or not) to somehow 
do the work of the Windows notifier ?
As a straight though maybe something opening a socket with the ar 
server. Listening for new tickets or updates. And then sending a message 
to the client (on linux or unix).

And at the end an alert window (tkl, java or python) to let the user know.
Is that only possible ?
Thank you.
Serouche

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