AREA LDAP

2010-11-30 Thread John Baker
Hello,

Sorry, this is a bit of an advert, but also an interesting addition to
this thread.

At JSS, we've just completed a solution to reduce the complexity of AR
System authentication after a customer asked us why they still needed
the BMC AREA LDAP plugin if they had SSO enabled their AR System.  

It was a good question, because BMC are dropping support for the Windows
User Tool and hence all front end user access will be via the Midtier. 
The AREA Plugin is not quick to configure, and a separate plugin can be
required for each Active Directory, providing multiple levels of
effort/configuration.

In contrast, you can configure SSO Plugin with four pieces of
information - two of which are the service account username/password and
the other two are available from opening a Windows command prompt.  Once
configured, the plugin can authenticate users against all Domain
Controllers on a typical corporate network.

Only yesterday did we put together a video on this topic, so if you're
interested in seeing the functionality, click on the features and
functions video on this page
(http://www.javasystemsolutions.com/jss/ssoplugin) and step through to
3min 50sec.

Credit for this superb suggestion goes to Sascha, a Remedy Admin at a
large German BMC client :-)


John

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Re: OT - Friday Humor

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Fults
Answer to #5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTyH2nuFAw - How to fold a fitted 
sheet. ;)

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Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Craig Carter
All,

We recently upgraded all of our midtier servers and we're having repeated 
problems with Tomcat locking up  and displaying Service not available.  It 
appears to happen randomly and at no set memory limit.  The last couple of 
times was in the 600-700MB in use when it happened.  The service fails to stop 
or restart and has to be killed to get it started again.

We're running the following:

ARS 7.5 P6
Apache Tomcat 5.5.28
Java 1.6.0_21
Windows Server 2008/IIS7

Tomcat settings are 512MB initial, 1536MB maximum, and 3000 threads.

We've always used ServletExec in the past.  Those of you with a lot of Tomcat 
experience, what combination of versions/memory sizes have you found to be the 
most stable for ARS 7.5?
Thanks,

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mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Amit
Hello all,

 

I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
web client:

 

Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329

 

Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?

 

My environment details as follows:

 

DB :Oracle 10g

 

Server :Solaris 8

 

ARS version :6.3 patch 21

 

Mid Tier version : 7.01

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread tristan.rop...@t-online.de
**
Hi,Switch on the
loging mechanism of the midtier.Tristan-Original Message-Date:
Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100Subject: mid tier error (ARERR
329)From:         Amit raccons...@gmail.comTo:      
    arslist@ARSLIST.ORG** Hello all,I am getting following error
whenever I tried to modify help desk form on web client:Invalid password or authentication string for an
existing user ARERR 329Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?My
environment details as follows:DB :Oracle 10gServer :Solaris 8ARS version :6.3 patch 21Mid Tier version : 7.01With
Regards,Amit B._attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the
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Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread John Baker
Hello,

I wrote a post on this topic earlier this year: 

http://www.javasystemsolutions.com/arslist/view/89025846

In a nutshell, start by setting the initial heap size to 90% of the
maximum, so -Xms1400 -Xmx1536 in yuor case.  Your current setup is
encouraging the garbage collector to invoke a huge clean up of 1Gb,
which will exhibit itself in the VM appearing to lock up.

If you're using Apache and mod_jk, be sure to run mod_jk 1.2.31. 
There's a critical bug
(https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48169) in mod_jk
which causes delays when dealing with AJP sockets that are not properly
closed - we helped them resolve it so I can confirm it did exist.  This
may not be the problem, but it's worth considering.

Finally, review your Midtier caching to see why it's consuming all this
memory.

I can't imagine ServletExec being much better than Tomcat - did you
upgrade when you moved to Tomcat?


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Re: AREA LDAP

2010-11-30 Thread Susan Bisanti
Would this work if people are using the browser from a non-windows platform?

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Sent: 30 November, 2010 03:57
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AREA LDAP

Hello,

Sorry, this is a bit of an advert, but also an interesting addition to
this thread.

At JSS, we've just completed a solution to reduce the complexity of AR
System authentication after a customer asked us why they still needed
the BMC AREA LDAP plugin if they had SSO enabled their AR System.  

It was a good question, because BMC are dropping support for the Windows
User Tool and hence all front end user access will be via the Midtier. 
The AREA Plugin is not quick to configure, and a separate plugin can be
required for each Active Directory, providing multiple levels of
effort/configuration.

In contrast, you can configure SSO Plugin with four pieces of
information - two of which are the service account username/password and
the other two are available from opening a Windows command prompt.  Once
configured, the plugin can authenticate users against all Domain
Controllers on a typical corporate network.

Only yesterday did we put together a video on this topic, so if you're
interested in seeing the functionality, click on the features and
functions video on this page
(http://www.javasystemsolutions.com/jss/ssoplugin) and step through to
3min 50sec.

Credit for this superb suggestion goes to Sascha, a Remedy Admin at a
large German BMC client :-)


John


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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Amit
Hello ,

 

Thanks for your reply. I have enabled the log but what I found is that
system is trying to extract user information (user who login into the
application) from user_cache schema. This action is not part of any workflow
.

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

 

** 

Hi,

 

Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.

 

Tristan
-Original Message-
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100
Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
From: Amit raccons...@gmail.com
To:   arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hello all,

 

I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
web client:

 

Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329

 

Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?

 

My environment details as follows:

 

DB :Oracle 10g

 

Server :Solaris 8

 

ARS version :6.3 patch 21

 

Mid Tier version : 7.01

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread tristan.rop...@t-online.de
**
Hi,Are you using a
preference server ?Tristan-Original Message-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:41:13
+0100Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)From:        
Amit raccons...@gmail.comTo:          
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG** Hello ,Thanks for your reply. I have enabled
the log but what I found is that system is trying to extract user
information (user who login into the application) from user_cache
schema. This action is not part of any workflow .With Regards,Amit B.From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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2010 8:00 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject:
Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)** Hi,Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.Tristan-Original Message-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10
+0100Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)From:         Amit
raccons...@gmail.comTo:           arslist@ARSLIST.ORG** Hello all,I
am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
web client:Invalid password or
authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?My environment details as
follows:DB :Oracle 10gServer :Solaris 8ARS version :6.3 patch 21Mid Tier version : 7.01With Regards,Amit B._attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the
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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
If the User Cache is messed up you can use the arreload utility to rebuild the 
user_cache file (instructions are on pg 319 of the Configuring manual for 6.3).

arreload -a adminUser {-u|-g} schema [-f] [-p adminPassword] [-s 
server_name] [-h Server-Name_value][-d]

Basically:  arreload -u User -a Admin -p password -f


Note:  If you have a Max Entries Returned by GetList value set in the server 
configuration, make sure to set it to 0 before running the utility.  If you 
have more users than the value in the config you will not get all of them added 
to the cache (as the utility does respect the Max value).

Fred


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Amit
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

Hello ,

Thanks for your reply. I have enabled the log but what I found is that system 
is trying to extract user information (user who login into the application) 
from user_cache schema. This action is not part of any workflow .

With Regards,

Amit B.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of tristan.rop...@t-online.de
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

Hi,

Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.

Tristan

-Original Message-
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100
Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
From:         Amit raccons...@gmail.com
To:           arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Hello all,

I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on web 
client:

Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329

Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?

My environment details as follows:

DB :Oracle 10g

Server :Solaris 8

ARS version :6.3 patch 21

Mid Tier version : 7.01

With Regards,

Amit B.

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Reconciliation Engine does not work if the class is audited

2010-11-30 Thread Sergio Tomillero
Hello folks,

I am using Reconciliation Engine 7.6 and I see that it does not work as
expected. It does not take into account the weights if the class has
associated an audit form. If I try to reconciliate from different datasets
to a destination one, and the class has associated an audit form, the
reconciliation does not work correctly, that is to say that it just copies
the values from one of the source datasets into the destination and no
weight is applicated. 

Do you happen the same?

That is what I do:

- I create a Job with Identification  Merges Activities

-  The identification activity generates the same Reconciliation
Identity for those records that match an specific condition.
-  The merges activities do the merge action from each source dataset to
the destination, having both the same association precedence group.

For classes that do not have any audit form associated it works, but not for
classes with associated audit form.


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Resolution or Survey Notifications

2010-11-30 Thread Dean Deonier
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Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread John Baker
Service not available; I believe this happens when mod_jk can't
connect to Tomcat.

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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Amit
Hello ,

 

No we do not preference server defined.

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:16 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

 

** 

Hi,

 

Are you using a preference server ?

 

Tristan
-Original Message-
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:41:13 +0100
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
From: Amit raccons...@gmail.com
To:   arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hello ,

 

Thanks for your reply. I have enabled the log but what I found is that
system is trying to extract user information (user who login into the
application) from user_cache schema. This action is not part of any workflow
.

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

 

** 

Hi,

 

Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.

 

Tristan
-Original Message-
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100
Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
From: Amit raccons...@gmail.com
To:   arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

Hello all,

 

I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
web client:

 

Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329

 

Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?

 

My environment details as follows:

 

DB :Oracle 10g

 

Server :Solaris 8

 

ARS version :6.3 patch 21

 

Mid Tier version : 7.01

 

With Regards,

 

Amit B.

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Amit
Hello,

I am sorry ,I may be asking wrong question. As you said that user cache is
messed up ,then how I am able to modify people record for myself as well as
record in others form on web client. This error is coming only when I try to
modify help desk form.

With Regards,
Amit B.

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

If the User Cache is messed up you can use the arreload utility to rebuild
the user_cache file (instructions are on pg 319 of the Configuring manual
for 6.3).

arreload -a adminUser {-u|-g} schema [-f] [-p adminPassword] [-s
server_name] [-h Server-Name_value][-d]

Basically:  arreload -u User -a Admin -p password -f


Note:  If you have a Max Entries Returned by GetList value set in the
server configuration, make sure to set it to 0 before running the utility.
If you have more users than the value in the config you will not get all of
them added to the cache (as the utility does respect the Max value).

Fred


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Amit
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

Hello ,

Thanks for your reply. I have enabled the log but what I found is that
system is trying to extract user information (user who login into the
application) from user_cache schema. This action is not part of any workflow
.

With Regards,

Amit B.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

Hi,

Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.

Tristan

-Original Message-
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100
Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
From:         Amit raccons...@gmail.com
To:           arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Hello all,

I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
web client:

Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329

Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?

My environment details as follows:

DB :Oracle 10g

Server :Solaris 8

ARS version :6.3 patch 21

Mid Tier version : 7.01

With Regards,

Amit B.


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Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)

2010-11-30 Thread Roney Varghese
Do you have SSO on your midtier and did u migrate any filter with a $GROUPID$ 
on the Helpdesk form?

Roney Samuel Varghese 

On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Amit raccons...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am sorry ,I may be asking wrong question. As you said that user cache is
 messed up ,then how I am able to modify people record for myself as well as
 record in others form on web client. This error is coming only when I try to
 modify help desk form.
 
 With Regards,
 Amit B.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:21 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
 
 If the User Cache is messed up you can use the arreload utility to rebuild
 the user_cache file (instructions are on pg 319 of the Configuring manual
 for 6.3).
 
 arreload -a adminUser {-u|-g} schema [-f] [-p adminPassword] [-s
 server_name] [-h Server-Name_value][-d]
 
 Basically:  arreload -u User -a Admin -p password -f
 
 
 Note:  If you have a Max Entries Returned by GetList value set in the
 server configuration, make sure to set it to 0 before running the utility.
 If you have more users than the value in the config you will not get all of
 them added to the cache (as the utility does respect the Max value).
 
 Fred
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Amit
 Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:11 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
 
 Hello ,
 
 Thanks for your reply. I have enabled the log but what I found is that
 system is trying to extract user information (user who login into the
 application) from user_cache schema. This action is not part of any workflow
 .
 
 With Regards,
 
 Amit B.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of tristan.rop...@t-online.de
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:00 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
 
 Hi,
 
 Switch on the loging mechanism of the midtier.
 
 Tristan
 
 -Original Message-
 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:31:10 +0100
 Subject: mid tier error (ARERR 329)
 From: Amit raccons...@gmail.com
 To:   arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am getting following error whenever I tried to modify help desk form on
 web client:
 
 Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user ARERR 329
 
 Can anybody suggest me how to resolve this issue?
 
 My environment details as follows:
 
 DB :Oracle 10g
 
 Server :Solaris 8
 
 ARS version :6.3 patch 21
 
 Mid Tier version : 7.01
 
 With Regards,
 
 Amit B.
 
 
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Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Craig Carter
Thanks John, I'll check those out.

We're pretty much running the standard install of Tomcat that came with the 
midtier installation.  Until the 7.5 P6 upgrade, we had always run with the 
bundled ServletExec (up through v7.0.1) so we were used to those settings.  
Since we're pretty green on Tomcat, we're looking for the most stable 
configuration since ServletExec was fairly picky regarding Java version, heap 
size, etc.

I'll assume mod_jk was installed automatically when Tomcat was installed with 
IIS...  Since the person who built these left, I'm playing catch-up and I'll 
need to see what's installed.

Appreciate the info--I need to get a lot smarter on Tomcat.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of John Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

Hello,

I wrote a post on this topic earlier this year: 

http://www.javasystemsolutions.com/arslist/view/89025846

In a nutshell, start by setting the initial heap size to 90% of the
maximum, so -Xms1400 -Xmx1536 in yuor case.  Your current setup is
encouraging the garbage collector to invoke a huge clean up of 1Gb,
which will exhibit itself in the VM appearing to lock up.

If you're using Apache and mod_jk, be sure to run mod_jk 1.2.31. 
There's a critical bug
(https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48169) in mod_jk
which causes delays when dealing with AJP sockets that are not properly
closed - we helped them resolve it so I can confirm it did exist.  This
may not be the problem, but it's worth considering.

Finally, review your Midtier caching to see why it's consuming all this
memory.

I can't imagine ServletExec being much better than Tomcat - did you
upgrade when you moved to Tomcat?


John

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Re: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Craig Carter
Thanks..

We're not on 7.6 yet because the 7.6 midtier apparently doesn't support 7.0.1 
database servers.  We're trying to get the database servers all upgraded to 7.5 
as well before moving to v7.6.  Until then, we need a stable midtier.

The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28.  Are those settings 
you mentioned below applicable to 5x Tomcat?

Willing to remove the threads setting if not recommended.  If anyone knows why 
that's a bad thing--please respond.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

** 

Service not available is an error that I had never seen until 7.6.03, when I 
was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat bundled 
with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  Prior to this I have always 
installed the mid-tier using tomcat as the web server, not IIS.

 

BTW, at some point during production with 7.1 BMC Support admitted to me that 
the 3000 threads settings they had documented in the past was an error, and 
should not be set at all.  Eventually it dropped out of the mid-tier docs.

 

Recently they told me that under Java Options: in the Apache Tomcat Tomcat6 
Properties box, I should add the line:

-XX:MaxPermSize=256m

Apparently the mid-tier installer already adds the settings:

-Xincgc

-XX:PermSize=256m

 

Adding this setting has cleared up some out of memory errors that I have seen 
when trying to load the RKM 7.6.03 console in mid-tier, among other things.  
These do not appear to be standard settings in a tomcat install - yesterday I 
built a midtier 7.6.03 on the 64-bit Windows distribution of tomcat 6.0.28 
(trying to find a tomcat 6.0 build that will not only do SSL using a commercial 
certificate, but will work properly with mid-tier 7.6.03; the most current 
tomcat - 6.0.29 - had problems with mid-tier), and I had to add all three of 
the -X lines to the Java Options.

 

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ http://itsm.unt.edu/  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:15 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 

** 

All,

 

We recently upgraded all of our midtier servers and we're having repeated 
problems with Tomcat locking up  and displaying Service not available.  It 
appears to happen randomly and at no set memory limit.  The last couple of 
times was in the 600-700MB in use when it happened.  The service fails to stop 
or restart and has to be killed to get it started again.

 

We're running the following:

 

ARS 7.5 P6

Apache Tomcat 5.5.28

Java 1.6.0_21

Windows Server 2008/IIS7

 

Tomcat settings are 512MB initial, 1536MB maximum, and 3000 threads.

 

We've always used ServletExec in the past.  Those of you with a lot of Tomcat 
experience, what combination of versions/memory sizes have you found to be the 
most stable for ARS 7.5?

Thanks,

 

Craig Carter

Information Technology Manager, RSP

 

 

 

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Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Craig Carter
David,

Is there a good document that explains in detail how to configure Tomcat for 
the midtier when installed separately?  The reason I'm asking is one of my guys 
submitted a ticket to the BMC/Remedy help desk asking for one when he couldn't 
find it and was told one does not exist.  I find it hard to believe there isn't 
something that explains how to create the linkage when these are installed 
separately for those of us who are novices with Tomcat.

Regards,

//SIGNED//
Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 I was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat 
 bundled with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  

 The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28

Just a reminder that the Tomcat provided with AR System is done so as a 
convenience and is not meant to represent the only version that can be used 
with the Mid-Tier.  The compatibility matrix lists the minimum version 
supported and customers are welcome to use any version at or higher than the 
minimum version.  For example, AR System 7.6.03 supports Tomcat 5.5.28 or 
higher... it is not required that you use version 6.0.18.  In the same way, 
7.5.00 customers are welcome to use a later version of Tomcat if so desired.

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Enterprise Service Management
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

Thanks..

We're not on 7.6 yet because the 7.6 midtier apparently doesn't support 7.0.1 
database servers.  We're trying to get the database servers all upgraded to 7.5 
as well before moving to v7.6.  Until then, we need a stable midtier.

The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28.  Are those settings 
you mentioned below applicable to 5x Tomcat?

Willing to remove the threads setting if not recommended.  If anyone knows why 
that's a bad thing--please respond.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

** 

Service not available is an error that I had never seen until 7.6.03, when I 
was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat bundled 
with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  Prior to this I have always 
installed the mid-tier using tomcat as the web server, not IIS.

 

BTW, at some point during production with 7.1 BMC Support admitted to me that 
the 3000 threads settings they had documented in the past was an error, and 
should not be set at all.  Eventually it dropped out of the mid-tier docs.

 

Recently they told me that under Java Options: in the Apache Tomcat Tomcat6 
Properties box, I should add the line:

-XX:MaxPermSize=256m

Apparently the mid-tier installer already adds the settings:

-Xincgc

-XX:PermSize=256m

 

Adding this setting has cleared up some out of memory errors that I have seen 
when trying to load the RKM 7.6.03 console in mid-tier, among other things.  
These do not appear to be standard settings in a tomcat install - yesterday I 
built a midtier 7.6.03 on the 64-bit Windows distribution of tomcat 6.0.28 
(trying to find a tomcat 6.0 build that will not only do SSL using a commercial 
certificate, but will work properly with mid-tier 7.6.03; the most current 
tomcat - 6.0.29 - had problems with mid-tier), and I had to add all three of 
the -X lines to the Java Options.

 

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ http://itsm.unt.edu/  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:15 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 

** 

All,

 

We recently upgraded all of our midtier servers and we're having repeated 
problems with Tomcat locking up  and displaying Service not available.  It 
appears to happen randomly and at no set memory limit.  The last couple of 
times was in the 600-700MB in 

Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Easter, David
Everything I'm aware of is either in the Installation Guide or the Mid-Tier 
Guide.  You could also check the KBs if there is a specific error condition or 
issue you're encountering.

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Enterprise Service Management
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

David,

Is there a good document that explains in detail how to configure Tomcat for 
the midtier when installed separately?  The reason I'm asking is one of my guys 
submitted a ticket to the BMC/Remedy help desk asking for one when he couldn't 
find it and was told one does not exist.  I find it hard to believe there isn't 
something that explains how to create the linkage when these are installed 
separately for those of us who are novices with Tomcat.

Regards,

//SIGNED//
Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 I was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat 
 bundled with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  

 The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28

Just a reminder that the Tomcat provided with AR System is done so as a 
convenience and is not meant to represent the only version that can be used 
with the Mid-Tier.  The compatibility matrix lists the minimum version 
supported and customers are welcome to use any version at or higher than the 
minimum version.  For example, AR System 7.6.03 supports Tomcat 5.5.28 or 
higher... it is not required that you use version 6.0.18.  In the same way, 
7.5.00 customers are welcome to use a later version of Tomcat if so desired.

-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Enterprise Service Management
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

Thanks..

We're not on 7.6 yet because the 7.6 midtier apparently doesn't support 7.0.1 
database servers.  We're trying to get the database servers all upgraded to 7.5 
as well before moving to v7.6.  Until then, we need a stable midtier.

The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28.  Are those settings 
you mentioned below applicable to 5x Tomcat?

Willing to remove the threads setting if not recommended.  If anyone knows why 
that's a bad thing--please respond.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

** 

Service not available is an error that I had never seen until 7.6.03, when I 
was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat bundled 
with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  Prior to this I have always 
installed the mid-tier using tomcat as the web server, not IIS.

 

BTW, at some point during production with 7.1 BMC Support admitted to me that 
the 3000 threads settings they had documented in the past was an error, and 
should not be set at all.  Eventually it dropped out of the mid-tier docs.

 

Recently they told me that under Java Options: in the Apache Tomcat Tomcat6 
Properties box, I should add the line:

-XX:MaxPermSize=256m

Apparently the mid-tier installer already adds the settings:

-Xincgc

-XX:PermSize=256m

 

Adding this setting has cleared up some out of memory errors that I have seen 
when trying to load the RKM 7.6.03 console in mid-tier, among other things.  
These do not appear to be standard settings in a tomcat install - yesterday I 
built a midtier 7.6.03 on the 64-bit Windows distribution of tomcat 6.0.28 
(trying to find a tomcat 6.0 build that will not only do SSL using a commercial 
certificate, 

Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

2010-11-30 Thread Jason Miller
AFAIK such a document did not exist until recently.  WWRUG attendees
received a BMC draft white paper entitled Fine-Tuning the Mid-Tier and the
Web Infrastructure for Performance.   Not only are there setting
recommendations but a lot of good information about web apps, architecture
and protocols in general.

Right off when browsing it for the first time I realized that we had made
some poor assumptions regarding TC settings in the past.  Our first exposure
to TC was also with MT and RKM and we are by no means TC experts.

I did a quick check on the support site and was not able to find it.

David Easter, do you know if this document is (or going to be) available on
Support Central?

Thanks,
Jason

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Craig Carter 
craig.car...@arpc.denver.af.mil wrote:

 David,

 Is there a good document that explains in detail how to configure Tomcat
 for the midtier when installed separately?  The reason I'm asking is one of
 my guys submitted a ticket to the BMC/Remedy help desk asking for one when
 he couldn't find it and was told one does not exist.  I find it hard to
 believe there isn't something that explains how to create the linkage when
 these are installed separately for those of us who are novices with Tomcat.

 Regards,

 //SIGNED//
 Craig Carter
 Information Technology Manager, RSP

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:01 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

  I was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18 tomcat
 bundled with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.

  The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28

 Just a reminder that the Tomcat provided with AR System is done so as a
 convenience and is not meant to represent the only version that can be used
 with the Mid-Tier.  The compatibility matrix lists the minimum version
 supported and customers are welcome to use any version at or higher than the
 minimum version.  For example, AR System 7.6.03 supports Tomcat 5.5.28 or
 higher... it is not required that you use version 6.0.18.  In the same way,
 7.5.00 customers are welcome to use a later version of Tomcat if so desired.

 -David J. Easter
 Sr. Product Manager, Enterprise Service Management
 BMC Software, Inc.

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:39 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 Thanks..

 We're not on 7.6 yet because the 7.6 midtier apparently doesn't support
 7.0.1 database servers.  We're trying to get the database servers all
 upgraded to 7.5 as well before moving to v7.6.  Until then, we need a stable
 midtier.

 The bundled Tomcat version in 7.5 P6 appears to be v5.5.28.  Are those
 settings you mentioned below applicable to 5x Tomcat?

 Willing to remove the threads setting if not recommended.  If anyone knows
 why that's a bad thing--please respond.

 Craig Carter
 Information Technology Manager, RSP

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss
 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:01 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Q: Current Stable Tomcat/Java Versions/Settings

 **

 Service not available is an error that I had never seen until 7.6.03,
 when I was forced to use the Jakarta plugin with IIS because the 6.0.18
 tomcat bundled with mid-tier 7.6.03 refuses to work with OpenSSL.  Prior to
 this I have always installed the mid-tier using tomcat as the web server,
 not IIS.



 BTW, at some point during production with 7.1 BMC Support admitted to me
 that the 3000 threads settings they had documented in the past was an error,
 and should not be set at all.  Eventually it dropped out of the mid-tier
 docs.



 Recently they told me that under Java Options: in the Apache Tomcat Tomcat6
 Properties box, I should add the line:

 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m

 Apparently the mid-tier installer already adds the settings:

 -Xincgc

 -XX:PermSize=256m



 Adding this setting has cleared up some out of memory errors that I have
 seen when trying to load the RKM 7.6.03 console in mid-tier, among other
 things.  These do not appear to be standard settings in a tomcat install -
 yesterday I built a midtier 7.6.03 on the 64-bit Windows distribution of
 tomcat 6.0.28 (trying to find a tomcat 6.0 build that will not only do SSL
 using a commercial certificate, but