Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-07 Thread jham36
I have had the problem with the disappearing sales rep for about 12
years.  Through Remedy Corp, Peregrine, and BMC.  I am usually able to
locate the current one in a few days by starting with a support call.

On Aug 4, 10:23 pm, Tim Richardson t...@remedyedge.com wrote:
 Hi Shawn,

 I do understand what you mean; but fortunately, the BMC sales rep over my 
 current clients is outstanding.  I've also had great support on my past few 
 accounts...so I think it may be a case-by-case answer.

 If you can connect with whom your account's replacement is; they'll probably 
 get you the service and attention you're missing.

 Let me know how it goes.

 Tim

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 Subject: OT:  The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep
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 Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 11:06 AM

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 Good morning,
  
 After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated 
 this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we 
 discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody 
 notified us, his emails just
 bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors, and there was no indication that 
 we no longer had a sales rep.
  
 Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we’ve 
 had dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now 
 from the sales side, I’m wondering what the future is of the company.  I 
 haven’t heard any rumors of either
 BMC being looked at for a purchase by a larger company or of BMC looking to 
 sell off Remedy, but they don’t seem to be acting like a company that seeks 
 to grow their software sales or maintain existing customers. 
  
 Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a 
 widespread problem?
  
 Oh, and a P.S. – Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.  There 
 is another application I support where the tickets are closed out without the 
 vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they lost any record 
 of us paying them for
 support.  I know there is much worse than what BMC is doing right now, but 
 the Remedy suite is my bread and butter and I want to see it grow rather than 
 decline due to bad corporate decisions.
  
 Thanks,
  
 Shawn Pierson
 Remedy Developer | Southern Union
  
  
  

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Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-06 Thread Savant, don...@cio
We were in similar circumstances when our sales rep left the company with no 
notice but BMC was much proactive in our case.  Within a matter of a few days, 
we met the sales manager (he flew out from Texas) who officially informed us of 
the change and assigned an inside sales rep to work with us until a new rep was 
hired.  Our impression was that the overall transition was relatively smooth 
despite the initial email rejections.  Note that previous transitions were not 
so smooth, this one was a definite improvement.


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Good morning,

After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated 
this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we 
discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody 
notified us, his emails just bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors, and 
there was no indication that we no longer had a sales rep.

Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we've had 
dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now from the 
sales side, I'm wondering what the future is of the company.  I haven't heard 
any rumors of either BMC being looked at for a purchase by a larger company or 
of BMC looking to sell off Remedy, but they don't seem to be acting like a 
company that seeks to grow their software sales or maintain existing customers.

Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a widespread 
problem?

Oh, and a P.S. - Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.  There is 
another application I support where the tickets are closed out without the 
vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they lost any record of 
us paying them for support.  I know there is much worse than what BMC is doing 
right now, but the Remedy suite is my bread and butter and I want to see it 
grow rather than decline due to bad corporate decisions.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-06 Thread Brittain, Mark
Hi Shawn,

6 months ago I probably could have written the same email as you have. My 
recent experience has been quite positive. On the education side, I sent an 
email asking a questions and it became a 8 email in 20 minute question and 
answer session about the upcoming 7.5 training and what I needed to do based 
on my prior training. I do have a new sales rep and when I need him he's been 
there. Better still he is fairly local (same State) and not in Texas. I have 
also gained much more confidence in the support team as they have been quicker 
to respond and have had good answers and follow up to make sure what they 
recommended was the solution.

If I were you I would call BMC and file a missing (sales) person report.

Mark


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Good morning,

After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated 
this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we 
discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody 
notified us, his emails just bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors, and 
there was no indication that we no longer had a sales rep.

Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we've had 
dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now from the 
sales side, I'm wondering what the future is of the company.  I haven't heard 
any rumors of either BMC being looked at for a purchase by a larger company or 
of BMC looking to sell off Remedy, but they don't seem to be acting like a 
company that seeks to grow their software sales or maintain existing customers.

Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a widespread 
problem?

Oh, and a P.S. - Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.  There is 
another application I support where the tickets are closed out without the 
vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they lost any record of 
us paying them for support.  I know there is much worse than what BMC is doing 
right now, but the Remedy suite is my bread and butter and I want to see it 
grow rather than decline due to bad corporate decisions.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-06 Thread Jason Miller
HI Shawn,

Earlier this year we had a similar experience.  I had sent some emails to
our account manager but the emails did not bounce back and there was no
reply.  I was starting to get frustrated with the lack of a response when
one of the BMC partners came knocking on the door (coincidence, I don't
know?).  I found out from the partner that our AM was no longer with BMC.

It was kind of disappoint to find out from a 3rd party.  On the other hand
over the years I have experienced pretty frequent turn over of AMs.  While
it would be nice to be notified each time, I wonder if BMC doesn't want to
public say yeah your AM changed again to a group of customers.

What is the best solution?  Thinking about it, it would be nice to see from
their support page who is tied to a support contract (if that is how it
works).  That way you can look it up if you are not notified of a change.  I
may have to submit an RFC for that one.

Jason

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Pierson, Shawn shawn.pier...@sug.comwrote:

 **  Good morning,

 After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated
 this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we
 discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody
 notified us, his emails just bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors,
 and there was no indication that we no longer had a sales rep.

 Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we’ve
 had dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now
 from the sales side, I’m wondering what the future is of the company.  I
 haven’t heard any rumors of either BMC being looked at for a purchase by a
 larger company or of BMC looking to sell off Remedy, but they don’t seem to
 be acting like a company that seeks to grow their software sales or maintain
 existing customers.

 Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a
 widespread problem?

 Oh, and a P.S. – Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.
 There is another application I support where the tickets are closed out
 without the vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they
 lost any record of us paying them for support.  I know there is much worse
 than what BMC is doing right now, but the Remedy suite is my bread and
 butter and I want to see it grow rather than decline due to bad corporate
 decisions.

 Thanks,

 *Shawn Pierson *
 Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-05 Thread Tim Richardson
Hi Shawn,

I do understand what you mean; but fortunately, the BMC sales rep over my 
current clients is outstanding.  I've also had great support on my past few 
accounts...so I think it may be a case-by-case answer.

If you can connect with whom your account's replacement is; they'll probably 
get you the service and attention you're missing.

Let me know how it goes.

Tim

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From: Pierson, Shawn shawn.pier...@sug.com
Subject: OT:  The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 11:06 AM

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Good morning,
 
After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated 
this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we 
discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody 
notified us, his emails just
bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors, and there was no indication that 
we no longer had a sales rep.
 
Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we’ve had 
dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now from the 
sales side, I’m wondering what the future is of the company.  I haven’t heard 
any rumors of either
BMC being looked at for a purchase by a larger company or of BMC looking to 
sell off Remedy, but they don’t seem to be acting like a company that seeks to 
grow their software sales or maintain existing customers.  
 
Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a widespread 
problem?
 
Oh, and a P.S. – Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.  There is 
another application I support where the tickets are closed out without the 
vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they lost any record of 
us paying them for
support.  I know there is much worse than what BMC is doing right now, but the 
Remedy suite is my bread and butter and I want to see it grow rather than 
decline due to bad corporate decisions. 
 
Thanks,
 
Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Southern Union
 
 
 

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Re: OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-05 Thread Dennis Ruble
Shawn,
We had a similar experience this past year with an unresponsive rep.  BMC 
has recently reorganized our territory and our experiences since then have 
been much better.

Good Luck!
Dennis Ruble




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Good morning,
 
After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I 
escalated this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any 
better) today we discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the 
company.  Nobody notified us, his emails just bounced back, his phone 
numbers gave errors, and there was no indication that we no longer had a 
sales rep.
 
Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we?ve 
had dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now 
from the sales side, I?m wondering what the future is of the company.  I 
haven?t heard any rumors of either BMC being looked at for a purchase by a 
larger company or of BMC looking to sell off Remedy, but they don?t seem 
to be acting like a company that seeks to grow their software sales or 
maintain existing customers. 
 
Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a 
widespread problem?
 
Oh, and a P.S. ? Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse. 
There is another application I support where the tickets are closed out 
without the vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they 
lost any record of us paying them for support.  I know there is much worse 
than what BMC is doing right now, but the Remedy suite is my bread and 
butter and I want to see it grow rather than decline due to bad corporate 
decisions. 
 
Thanks,
 
Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Southern Union
 
 
 
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OT: The case of the disappearing BMC sales rep

2009-08-04 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Good morning,

After a few weeks of struggling to get in contact with someone (I escalated 
this to upper I.T. management to see if they would fare any better) today we 
discovered that our BMC sales rep is no longer with the company.  Nobody 
notified us, his emails just bounced back, his phone numbers gave errors, and 
there was no indication that we no longer had a sales rep.

Is this a common occurrence with BMC now?  Based on the difficulties we've had 
dealing with BMC both from the training side, the support side and now from the 
sales side, I'm wondering what the future is of the company.  I haven't heard 
any rumors of either BMC being looked at for a purchase by a larger company or 
of BMC looking to sell off Remedy, but they don't seem to be acting like a 
company that seeks to grow their software sales or maintain existing customers.

Is my company the only one having these types of issues or is this a widespread 
problem?

Oh, and a P.S. - Despite these problems, some vendors are even worse.  There is 
another application I support where the tickets are closed out without the 
vendor ever even responding to me, and where it appears they lost any record of 
us paying them for support.  I know there is much worse than what BMC is doing 
right now, but the Remedy suite is my bread and butter and I want to see it 
grow rather than decline due to bad corporate decisions.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union




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