[AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans
Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Subsequent to the storm the levees broke and the sea reclaimed much of its sea bed for New Orleans is BELOW SEA LEVEL. I now have heard reliable eye witness reports from the actual locations in NO and from People I know in Washington, DC. First off: The violence was so bad let me give you the eye witness report I got from someone I know and also hearing this on CABLE NEWS TONIGHT, as a confirmation. At the Super Dome. A man raped and killed a SEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL. 10 other men beats him to death. This all happened within 30 minutes when apparently the same man who raped the little girl struggled with a National Guardsman - taken his weapon and shooting him. Now from the Washington friends: The White House was not about to go in and subject rescue workers to the violence without first securing the area with a sufficient amount of soldiers. The violence was so HIGH, it took 10,000 plus Military to call the area stable. No matter who you wish to blame - it's really doesn't matter. It's starting to turn around. I for one pay no attention to ignorance. In this country as free as you are to spout off... other are as free to tune out! Besides why is that only Liberals are complaining...??? The be happy - and no worries crowd are not good at NASTY!!! May The Peace of The Lord Jesus Christ Be Upon All Mankind. Rev. Kevin Brown Lighthouse Long Branch, New Jersey Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why Katrina is misused as a Race Card
In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: second... i like the way that "colored" people are singled out as to keeping the troubles and wrong doings of thier people alive and before the public... i believe that there are PEOPLE OF ALL RACES AND FAITHS that do thatthere is always someone talking about the the mistreatment of BLACKS, JEWS, MUSLIMS, GAYS, ARABS, and just about every other group on this planet... so before you single out one group of people make sure that it is just that group that is harping about what is happening to them. Except for the Italians and the Irish here in America! So did others. However growing up in an Italianand Irish family noone taught me to hate because of what was going on in New York in the mid to late 1800. I had no idea until Martin Scorceese made a movie about it called "Gangs of New York" They learned a basic biblical truth. "Don't let the sun go down on your anger." More importantly people just don't know how to forgive unconditionally. It's a powerful spiritual attribute and it work's miracles. "Be not amazed or confused that they persecute you! For they also persecuted me." Jesus to His followers. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Responding to Skip
In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs ofthe people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit."Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected not toevacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack uptheir families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what?We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likelyhave personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that yourparticular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all thatbegs the question, should the "people who elected not to evacuate"have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; "Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now!" and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least) As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addictedwho have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] SUNDAY MORNING: NEW ORLEANS
SUNDAY MORNING IN NEW ORLEANS FROM DIRECTNIC - MY DOMAIN NAME REGISTRY COMPANY... THE FOLLOWING WAS POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN WRITTEN BY MIKE OF DIRECTNIC: Sunday, September 4th, 2005 8:51 am Phones for CitySig has been coordinating with the city to get them phones for the past couple of days. It's a daunting task but hopefully we can get the some comms.That huge convoy of utility type trucks rolling in appears to MCI. Seems like the tech type stuff is gonna be up and running before the flooding is pumped out and the water is turned on. (19 Comments |Comment on this) 7:55 am Up and at 'emSlept in til 7am today. The police and military still control the streets and they're patrolling in force by vehicle -- you can see this on the cam. A lot of people have asked about the vehicles and who's in them. They're all police vehicles now -- commandeered. Let me address the political situation for a moment. I noticed that the responses I've been getting on the blog and the stuff I've been reading in the mainstream media has become very politicized. I'm not going to get into politics here -- I'm just going to do my work and then report what I see and hear throughout the day. If you guys want to play Democrat vs Republican vs Independent, go right ahead, but I'm really weary of the permanent election season this country's turned into. Honestly, these are politicians you guys are getting so excited about. Politicians. As far as I'm concerned, I don't trust people who want to tell other people how to spend their money and what they can read or see on television and what they can do in the privacy of their own homes. There's no way I'm going to feel comfortable supporting someone who thinks he knows what's best for the rest of "society" and is willing to use force and the threat of force to make others fall into line.So yeah, I'm not going to support or condemn anyone specific for what's going on here. And another thing to think about when we start pointing fingers is this. The government is never equipped to handle a crisis like this. There's too much bureaucracy -- initiative-stifling bureaucracy which prevents swift, effective action. I would like to hear from government employees on this. The nature of that bureaucracy is such that you have very specific guidelines to follow for even the most minute tasks. You need approval for just about everything, and the person you need approval from usually needs approval to give you the approval. It's not as easy as say rounding up 4 of your co-workers and saying, "We've got someone at such and such an address, let's go grab her and get her out of there." Now add a destroyed or disabled command and control center to that bureaucracy and you've got a total and complete mess. You (as a civilian) don't need "Approved" stamped on 3 different forms before you can run into your neighbor's house and pull them out. I hope this makes sense.Anyway, I'm sure there's been human error in this catastrophe. How could there not be? But what I'm saying is that I've come to expect poor decision making and a total lack of initiative from government. They can't even balance a budget, at the federal, state, or local levels. I could balance my checkbook and spend within my means when I was a teenager. But I'm not gonna point fingers and get into the blame game. If you want me to blame something besides the storm herself, I blame the nature of government in the first place. It's too big, it's too slow, it's too inefficient, it's too bloated, and it's too intiative-stifling to be effective in normal circumstances, much less in a disaster. It's a systemic issue, more than an issue of individual people in government.Ok, that being said, I see more civilians on the street now -- although many of them appear to be journalist types. More later. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- cant fathom the Jesus you praise
even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor even the addicted were always the ones with the greatest mobility, notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the greatest mobility and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now! and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least) As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Responding to Skip
JK's comment: My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the PresidentDon't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. from Harry Truman: "The buck stops here." from Anne Rice: "...a chorus of voices rose. 'Why didn't they leave?'...'Why did they stay there when they knew a storm was coming?'...'Why do people live in such a place?'...Now the voices grew even louder.'How could people shoot one another?'...'What kind of people are these, the people of New Orleans, who stay in a city about to be flooded, and then turn on one another?' "Well, here's an answer. Thousands didn't leave New Orleans because they couldn't leave. They didn't have the money. They didn't have the vehicles. They didn't have any place to go. They are the poor, black and white, who dwell in any city in great numbers; and they did what they felt they could do - they huddled together in the strongest houses they could find. There was no way to up and leave and check into the nearest Ramada Inn. "What's more, thousands more who could have left stayed behind to help others. They went out in the helicopters and pulled the survivors off rooftops; they went through the flooded streets in their boats trying to gather those they could find." Respectfully, mjd Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Responding to Skip Date: 9/4/2005 9:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: "Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs ofthe people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit."Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected not toevacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack uptheir families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what?We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likelyhave personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that yourparticular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all thatbegs the question, should the "people who elected not to evacuate"have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; "Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now!" and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least) As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addictedwho have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip
-Thank you, Mario. I Couldn't have said it better myself in such few words. ]:-) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JK's comment: My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the PresidentDon't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. from Harry Truman: The buck stops here. from Anne Rice: ...a chorus of voices rose. 'Why didn't they leave?'...'Why did they stay there when they knew a storm was coming?'...'Why do people live in such a place?'...Now the voices grew even louder. 'How could people shoot one another?'...'What kind of people are these, the people of New Orleans, who stay in a city about to be flooded, and then turn on one another?' Well, here's an answer. Thousands didn't leave New Orleans because they couldn't leave. They didn't have the money. They didn't have the vehicles. They didn't have any place to go. They are the poor, black and white, who dwell in any city in great numbers; and they did what they felt they could do - they huddled together in the strongest houses they could find. There was no way to up and leave and check into the nearest Ramada Inn. What's more, thousands more who could have left stayed behind to help others. They went out in the helicopters and pulled the survivors off rooftops; they went through the flooded streets in their boats trying to gather those they could find. Respectfully, mjd Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Responding to Skip Date: 9/4/2005 9:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now! and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least) As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown SPONSORED LINKS _Asbury park home_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Asbury+park+homew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbu ry+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+real+est atew5=Asbury+parkw6=Seaside+resortc=6s=131.sig=ZElj2kVWE_ravi9Wo 0Oplg) _Asbury park nj_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Asbury+park+njw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury +park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+real+estate w5=Asbury+parkw6=Seaside+resortc=6s=131.sig=CQriiWFSyJBhtWVV7qdih Q) _Asbury park hotel_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Asbury+park+hotelw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asb ury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+real+estat
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[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- cant fathom the Jesus you praise
Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or complaining. Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the Government Crucify Him! Thanks for prooving my point for me. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor even the addicted were always the ones with the greatest mobility, notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the greatest mobility and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now! and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least) As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Happy Sunday Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- cant fathom the Jesus you praise
Besides, nothing personal but anyone depending on a Government is a fool! John F. Kennedy a great democrat; and also a liberal. Don't ask what your country can do for you... ask what you can do for your country. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- can’t fathom the Jesus you praise
Re: Jersey Kev's comment: One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic blathering on Fox news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. mjd Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- can’t fathom the Jesus you praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or complaining. Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the Government "Crucify Him!"Thanks for prooving my point for me.Kevin Brown--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "…even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it." Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor "even the addicted… were always the ones with the greatest mobility", notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the "greatest mobility" and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:"Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit." Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the "people who elected not to evacuate" and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what?We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the "people who elected not to evacuate" have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President.SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about what was to happen, before it happenned. But I ask you, even if God showed me ahead of time. like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have said; "Thank You Brother Brown, let me get out of here now!" and how many do you think would have laughed at me? (at the very least)As far as the Doctrine of God helps those that helps themselves... I do not subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that silly notion was that JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL! Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch among the extreme needy and I had a daughter living in the French Quarter for three years while she struggled with drugs if you must know. Why I even mention this is because I was always amazed how the poor, even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it.Happy Sunday Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pageClick
[AsburyPark] DIRECTNIC NEW ORLEANS: OPRA IN THE AIR
Sunday, September 4th, 2005 11:32 am Oprah and Other Latest Updates.A confidential source reports that the Mayor of New Orleans and Oprah Winfrey will be sharing a helocopter flight over the city today. Also, he tells me that the NAACP is asking for permission to fly over the city to evaluate.From Sig's morning recon: People are pretty much gone from the Dome, but there are around 100 who will not leave -- they are entenched and being referred to as Die Hard Saints Fans jokingly by the authorities. They would have to be forcibly removed. The stench from the Dome is sickening and all authorities in the area wear breath masks; the trash is piled up all over the place and human excrement is everywhere.By the Casino, the various agencies have a very big presence with mini HQs in the area. Also the Dome and the Convention Center have large agency presences. A lot of people still don't know where to evacuate. A lot of people were so scared of looting that they kept their presence hidden and are just now being discovered. From an official source: New Orleans already had a big homeless population. A lot of the already homeless refused to leave without their shopping carts. So they won't go near the evac centers, even though we have heard reports that the helocopters will now allow people to bring their shopping carts with them.And, to top it all off, as if to confirm my earlier post about government, the State and Federal governments are still at each other's throats. This crisis is going to require some leadership if things are gonna get better. (654 Comments |Comment on this) 10:58 am UpdateA lot of tankers have been going by. I'm not sure what's in the plain, nondescript silver ones are carrying -- could be fuel, could be water for the rescuers and relief effort. Also, like you I've heard the rumors of cannibalism, but I have no confirmation from any of the police. The city really does look like a ghost town. It's so bizarre to see streets which are normally highly trafficed having such a limited flow of vehicles. And at night it's weird to see all these high rises with no light coming from the buildings. No street lights, no traffic lights, the clock on the Whitney Bank building on Poydras and Camp -- a widely recognized feature -- is stopped. The debris is still everywhere. Cars abandoned all over the place. Abandoned and trashed. And the quiet. Aside from the occasional vehicle, this place has no sound. Every piece of glass that used to be a high rise window which hits the ground can be heard blocks away. I wonder how things will be different in this city when this is all behind us.Update: On cam, way down the street, you can see what appears to be an armed military foot patrol. First one I've seen. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Jersey Kev's comment: One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him and said Crucify Him. Let's not leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing heart... mjd 's comments Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic blathering on Fox news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. mjd KEV AGAIN Talk is cheap!!! Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person? Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person? Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are devasted and confused??? I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they ask YOU When can we go home? That well, you can't because Bush is still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the form of water, snakes, etc, etc The problem with your gripe is you have no answers. I havent seen John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately. Where is Hillary? I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and taking shots at me, instead of blaming God. However, your kind comes to that soon anyway. LOL KB Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the Jesus you praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or complaining. Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the Government Crucify Him! Thanks for prooving my point for me. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: â¦even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor even the addicted⦠were always the ones with the greatest mobility, notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the greatest mobility and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not than they should consider this before it happens again. My point is, no one person is at fault here. Certainly not the President. SKIP really I am surprised at you... I am not blue nor red. Been both, and see the error of their ways. I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in. I wish I heard clear enough to have warned some folks in The Gulf area about
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the Jesus you praise
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JK's comment: (Thats Mr JK too you - sore looser, next time put up a better candidate. The election is not for a few years _ I support the President and Iam Proud of supporting him.) And until terrorism stops completely I agree to fight them there rather than prepare for their attacks here... Besides, nothing personal but anyone depending on a Government is a fool!...John F. Kennedy a great democrat; and also a liberalDon't ask what your country can do for you...ask what you can do for your country. The big corporate lobbyists on K Street who have commandeered this administration should take heed of Kennedy's words. Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the Jesus you praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:45:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: Besides, nothing personal but anyone depending on a Government is a fool! John F. Kennedy a great democrat; and also a liberal. Don't ask what your country can do for you... ask what you can do for your country. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page _Click Here!_ (http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM) ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
FROM THE WHITEHOUSE: On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence.In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush and all Americans send their thoughts and prayers to the families of those who have lost lives and to all those affected by this natural disaster. The President is directing Federal agencies throughout the government to do all in their power to assist the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The top priority is to save and sustain lives.President Bush established a White House task force to oversee Hurricane Katrina response and recovery, and he convened a Cabinet meeting to ensure that Federal agencies' efforts are timely and fully coordinated. Residents of the Gulf Coast states affected by the hurricane have lost loved ones, lost homes, and been displaced from their communities, and they will have the full support of the Federal government. The President has called for the coordination of all parties involved in the response and relief efforts. Federal, state, and local governments are working side-by-side to deliver relief to the areas physically damaged by Hurricane Katrina and to communities across the South that will be affected in the aftermath of the storm. Efforts and resources are focused on saving lives, sustaining lives, and supporting long-term recovery. For information and guidance you may wish to visit the FEMA website at www.fema.gov or call 800-621-3362 or 800-621-FEMA. The President has called on all Americans to support the relief and rescue efforts through charitable contributions and aid. Americans who wish to contribute can do so by contacting charities that are assisting with hurricane relief. For more information on relief and recovery efforts, please visit the USAFreedom Corps website at www.usafreedomcorps.gov. Thank you again for taking the time to write. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
Title: AOL Email I guess he would do this since the republicans and the democrats are BOTH on his back. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
If your a man of the cloth, as you claim you are, why are you hiding out in a room in the middle of this human tragedy playing with electronic gear. You should be out in the streets tending to your flock. That's what Jesus would have done.I know that if I was able to be there, I would be helping the victims not sitting on my ass quoting history scripture,and spewing nonsense on a web site. Shame, Shame Shame on you! ]:-( --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Jersey Kev's comment: One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him and said Crucify Him. Let's not leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing heart... mjd 's comments Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic blathering on Fox news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. mjd KEV AGAIN Talk is cheap!!! Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person? Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person? Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are devasted and confused??? I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they ask YOU When can we go home? That well, you can't because Bush is still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the form of water, snakes, etc, etc The problem with your gripe is you have no answers. I havent seen John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately. Where is Hillary? I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and taking shots at me, instead of blaming God. However, your kind comes to that soon anyway. LOL KB Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the Jesus you praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or complaining. Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the Government Crucify Him! Thanks for prooving my point for me. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: â¦even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor even the addicted⦠were always the ones with the greatest mobility, notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the greatest mobility and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a
[AsburyPark] Re: FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
-Five days late, millions of dollars short! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FROM THE WHITEHOUSE: On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush and all Americans send their thoughts and prayers to the families of those who have lost lives and to all those affected by this natural disaster. The President is directing Federal agencies throughout the government to do all in their power to assist the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The top priority is to save and sustain lives. President Bush established a White House task force to oversee Hurricane Katrina response and recovery, and he convened a Cabinet meeting to ensure that Federal agencies' efforts are timely and fully coordinated. Residents of the Gulf Coast states affected by the hurricane have lost loved ones, lost homes, and been displaced from their communities, and they will have the full support of the Federal government. The President has called for the coordination of all parties involved in the response and relief efforts. Federal, state, and local governments are working side-by-side to deliver relief to the areas physically damaged by Hurricane Katrina and to communities across the South that will be affected in the aftermath of the storm. Efforts and resources are focused on saving lives, sustaining lives, and supporting long-term recovery. For information and guidance you may wish to visit the FEMA website at www.fema.gov or call 800-621-3362 or 800-621-FEMA. The President has called on all Americans to support the relief and rescue efforts through charitable contributions and aid. Americans who wish to contribute can do so by contacting charities that are assisting with hurricane relief. For more information on relief and recovery efforts, please visit the USAFreedom Corps website at www.usafreedomcorps.gov. Thank you again for taking the time to write. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
I guess your a Rev. made from the same cloth as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson. Next you'll be blaming the gays for the hurricane because you know they were responsible for 9/11. ];-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Jersey Kev's comment: One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him and said Crucify Him. Let's not leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing heart... mjd 's comments Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic blathering on Fox news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. mjd KEV AGAIN Talk is cheap!!! Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person? Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person? Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are devasted and confused??? I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they ask YOU When can we go home? That well, you can't because Bush is still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the form of water, snakes, etc, etc The problem with your gripe is you have no answers. I havent seen John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately. Where is Hillary? I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and taking shots at me, instead of blaming God. However, your kind comes to that soon anyway. LOL KB Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- canât fathom the Jesus you praise Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: Jesus never counted on Government(s) for anything. Exactly my point. He walked everywhere he went, never blaming or complaining. Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey... on that day he was heralded such as a King would be. One week later the same mob screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the Government Crucify Him! Thanks for prooving my point for me. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: â¦even the addicted who have struggled for so long were always the ones with the greatest mobility and could pick up and get going before any one else. One shopping cart at a time. Don't take the ability to choose from people. Fact is many chose to stay behind and unfortunately they suffered for it. Pardon me for not buying into the notion that the poor even the addicted⦠were always the ones with the greatest mobility, notwithstanding the mobility society provides them courtesy of the paddy wagon. Rev you claim to be a man of god, maintain that the poor are among those having the greatest mobility and absolve a president of all responsibility for his failure to perform one of his highest duties, to save people and maintain order in a disaster. I have a vague recollection that Jesus worked for and walked among lepers, the poor and destitute, that money and wealth had no influence over him; somehow I can't fathom the Jesus you praise tolerating, much less letting off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of business is further enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when presented the choice to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened hundreds of thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit of his Iraqi folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Some people blamed the President for not responding to the needs of the people who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit. Rev KeV, perhaps you can enlighten the people who elected not to evacuate and us as to how people without automobiles were to pack up their families and belongings, and move several hundred miles to what? We get that you're a true blue (or is that red) republican, likely have personally heard the word of god and no doubt preach that your particular god will help anyone that helps themselves; but all that begs the question, should the people who elected not to evacuate have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds necessary to help themselves? Public transportation was working before the storm. I am sure their were emergency services available to assist people to comply... if not
[AsburyPark] UPDATE DIRECTNIC IN NEW ORLEANS
Sunday, September 4th, 2005 4:32 pm UpdateWe've been told that there's a fire in some church on Tchoupitoulas Street (chop a tool us). If you were just watching the cam, you saw a police APC drive by with the top open and a bunch of officers point their guns out. There's definitely a show of force. Not sure why it's like that in this sector, since we're just a handful of blocks away from a major National Guard and law enforcement staging area. You also might have seen that enormous portable toilet caravan. It's the little things like that which improve conditions considerably.As for that bridge shooting we've all heard about, this is all I've got. N.O. Deputy Chief Warren Riley: Law enformcement officials shot eight people carrying guns on the Danziger Bridge today - killing five. Edit: Ok, here's the bridge: http://www.volkert.com/Awards/Industrial%20Canal%20Bridge%20Danziger.htmI'm not sure where that bridge is. Also, Convention Center Blvd. smells like an unflushed toilet.Finally, I don't care what Jesse Jackson thinks about the word "refugee." A refugee is a person dispossessed of his house and property and who flees the area looking for... check it out... REFUGE. I will continue using this word. It certainly is not racist like he said.NEW PHOTOS UP ( ---link) (134 Comments |Comment on this) 3:24 pm UpdateSig and I went down to the street to head over to Baronne to check out some tenant housing the company owns and make sure the building is still secure. The water down Poydras has receded about one and 1/2 block as you head toward the Dome. Baronne street the water has receded to about 2 blocks down from Poydras as you head to Canal. Still very significant flooding that way and the water is absolutely nasty. The surface is a rust-covered gunk that is difficult to describe; luckily, Sig took some pictures. We saw some signs of looting and there was a car there which had been completely crushed under a wall of bricks which fell down from the 3rd floor of a now-exposed condo. Law enforcement have absolutely lost their minds. Some guy wearing khaki fatigues and black vests which say Police on them have their faces covered in black ski masks and are touting M4-A1s with front hand grips -- like they're some kind of Delta Force operators waiting to hit the tire house. They're guarding the four corners around the Bell South building for crying out loud. And what, they need secret identities? Come on. You can just tell some of these guys have never gotten out before. Now's their big chance to play Army. The police presence is growing and it consists of non-stop driving around the CBD. Dozens and dozens of cars just driving up one street and down the other. We're safe from civil unrest now, that much is certain. (240 Comments |Comment on this) 2:44 pm UpdateThe National Guard contacted us looking for fuel containers to help them resupply their vehicles, so we told them to swing by and grab some of ours. We gave them about a dozen.We're working on comms for the police now also. It looks like their are more reporters on the street now than regular civilians. I have to run down and make contact with someone. BRB SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess your a Rev. made from the same cloth as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson. Next you'll be blaming the gays for the hurricane because you know they were responsible for 9/11. ];-) Actually I blame the same spirit that obviously pervades you... HATE!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
WHEN DID YOU GET DOWN THERE??? HOW MUCH DID YOU BRING TO THEM??? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Five days late, millions of dollars short! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FROM THE WHITEHOUSE: On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush and all Americans send their thoughts and prayers to the families of those who have lost lives and to all those affected by this natural disaster. The President is directing Federal agencies throughout the government to do all in their power to assist the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The top priority is to save and sustain lives. President Bush established a White House task force to oversee Hurricane Katrina response and recovery, and he convened a Cabinet meeting to ensure that Federal agencies' efforts are timely and fully coordinated. Residents of the Gulf Coast states affected by the hurricane have lost loved ones, lost homes, and been displaced from their communities, and they will have the full support of the Federal government. The President has called for the coordination of all parties involved in the response and relief efforts. Federal, state, and local governments are working side-by-side to deliver relief to the areas physically damaged by Hurricane Katrina and to communities across the South that will be affected in the aftermath of the storm. Efforts and resources are focused on saving lives, sustaining lives, and supporting long-term recovery. For information and guidance you may wish to visit the FEMA website at www.fema.gov or call 800-621-3362 or 800-621-FEMA. The President has called on all Americans to support the relief and rescue efforts through charitable contributions and aid. Americans who wish to contribute can do so by contacting charities that are assisting with hurricane relief. For more information on relief and recovery efforts, please visit the USAFreedom Corps website at www.usafreedomcorps.gov. Thank you again for taking the time to write. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fox news - Rush - Pat - Falwell
Guys... Can we be more civil to each other? Is there any reason to start attacking each other? None of our bickering is going to make any of those lost souls come back. This wasn't a Republican/Democrat disaster. It was an AMERICAN disaster. This American would rather salute those of us who do things to help in our own ways rather than point fingers at others for doing things to help in their own way. Now where's Skip with some good ol' Fish bashing? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess your a Rev. made from the same cloth as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson. Next you'll be blaming the gays for the hurricane because you know they were responsible for 9/11. ];-) Actually I blame the same spirit that obviously pervades you... HATE!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] gas pirates....
Put a stop to it by writing the Pres. and ask him to sign an executive Order, freezing the price of gas at $blah-blah! That's all it takes! But will he do it? NO! Bush is out to take over the World!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"oakdorf"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:OakhustServiceStation,outdidGettybetween3-5pmtoday-goingfrom3.49to3.85.WanamassaJerseyOil@3.73asisMonmouthOilonRt35inOT.Theoilco'swillforcethesmallguystoclose/stopsellinggas.Someoperatorsaresimplyclosing,refusingtosellasnottotakegrieffromloyalcustomers.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
No, you're just saying that you are Not a PUPPET like him! You agree to disagree, which is as American as Apple Pie! Bush is like a spoiled brat! If you don't play the game his way, he grabs up the game and stalks off, pouting like the brat/dictator/anarchist, HE is! I'm waiting for the concentration camps to open. Oh, I forgot, they closed down Dome City and opened one at the Astro Dome!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Isn'tthatwhatwehavenow?Ifyoudon'tagreewitheverythingthispresidentsaysordoesyouhavebeendeemedun-american.Ipaycloseattentiontoconservativepublicationsandblogs.Idon'tseeanyoneonoursidecallingyoursideun-American.Iconstantlyseeyoursideaccusingusofcallingyouun-American.Verycuriousbehavioronyourpart.Maybeit'ssomesortofguiltyfeelingforyourpostions?Readcloselyintothatlastline.KindasoundslikewhatpeoplewouldhavesaidinGermanybackintheday,doesn'tit?Ifwedon'tblindlyfollowthispresidentIguesswemustbewrongandsomehowfeel"guilty"aboutit.Not.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] gas pirates....
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] gas pirates On 9/4/05 8:38 PM, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a stop to it by writing the Pres. and ask him to sign an executive Order, freezing the price of gas at $blah-blah! That's all it takes! But will he do it? NO! Bush is out to take over the World! In case people here dont know it, it is against the law in New Jersey for gas stations to raise prices more than once every 24 hours. Hundreds of people have already sent in complains to Trenton about this as I think its hard NOT to find a gas station in Monmouth County that broke the law in the past week. Im seen stations that raised their prices about 3 times in a 3-4 hour period. BTW, many stations have started NOT listing the price of gas. Beware those stations as some people have really been stuck with high prices. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: gas pirates....
funny cartoon: http://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay/shockwave.jsp? id=cant_afford_gaspreplay --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/4/05 8:38 PM, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put a stop to it by writing the Pres. and ask him to sign an executive Order, freezing the price of gas at $blah-blah! That's all it takes! But will he do it? NO! Bush is out to take over the World! In case people here don¹t know it, it is against the law in New Jersey for gas stations to raise prices more than once every 24 hours. Hundreds of people have already sent in complains to Trenton about this as I think it¹s hard NOT to find a gas station in Monmouth County that broke the law in the past week. I¹m seen stations that raised their prices about 3 times in a 3-4 hour period. BTW, many stations have started NOT listing the price of gas. Beware those stations as some people have really been stuck with high prices. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Sandy, can you spell "Half-Past Dumb"?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Whyshouldyouembarressyourlovingfamilylikethat?;~)---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Mario,sinceIsaid"ThankYou"forcallingmeaDittohead,didn'tthattipyouoffthatIknewwhatitwas?Onceagain,ThankYou!IweartheDittoheadtagproudly!Mega-dittos,Rush!!!Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Half-past dumb would be the correct spelling. Glad I could help you out. ]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sandy, can you spell Half-Past Dumb? Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should you embarress your loving family like that? ;~)- -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, since I said Thank You for calling me a Dittohead, didn't that tip you off that I knew what it was? Once again, Thank You! I wear the Dittohead tag proudly! Mega-dittos, Rush!!! Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: SUNDAY MORNING: NEW ORLEANS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SUNDAY MORNING IN NEW ORLEANS FROM DIRECTNIC - MY DOMAIN NAME REGISTRY COMPANY... THE FOLLOWING WAS POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN WRITTEN BY MIKE OF DIRECTNIC: Sunday, September 4th, 2005 8:51 am Phones for City Sig has been coordinating with the city to get them phones for the past couple of days. It's a daunting task but hopefully we can get the some comms. That huge convoy of utility type trucks rolling in appears to MCI. Seems like the tech type stuff is gonna be up and running before the flooding is pumped out and the water is turned on. (_19 Comments_ (http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/49971.html) |_Comment on this_ (http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/49971.html? mode=reply) ) 7:55 am Up and at 'em Slept in til 7am today. The police and military still control the streets and they're patrolling in force by vehicle -- you can see this on the cam. A lot of people have asked about the vehicles and who's in them. They're all police vehicles now -- commandeered. Let me address the political situation for a moment. I noticed that the responses I've been getting on the blog and the stuff I've been reading in the mainstream media has become very politicized. I'm not going to get into politics here -- I'm just going to do my work and then report what I see and hear throughout the day. If you guys want to play Democrat vs Republican vs Independent, go right ahead, but I'm really weary of the permanent election season this country's turned into. Honestly, these are politicians you guys are getting so excited about. Politicians. As far as I'm concerned, I don't trust people who want to tell other people how to spend their money and what they can read or see on television and what they can do in the privacy of their own homes. There's no way I'm going to feel comfortable supporting someone who thinks he knows what's best for the rest of society and is willing to use force and the threat of force to make others fall into line. So yeah, I'm not going to support or condemn anyone specific for what's going on here. And another thing to think about when we start pointing fingers is this. The government is never equipped to handle a crisis like this. There's too much bureaucracy -- initiative-stifling bureaucracy which prevents swift, effective action. I would like to hear from government employees on this. The nature of that bureaucracy is such that you have very specific guidelines to follow for even the most minute tasks. You need approval for just about everything, and the person you need approval from usually needs approval to give you the approval. It's not as easy as say rounding up 4 of your co-workers and saying, We've got someone at such and such an address, let's go grab her and get her out of there. Now add a destroyed or disabled command and control center to that bureaucracy and you've got a total and complete mess. You (as a civilian) don't need Approved stamped on 3 different forms before you can run into your neighbor's house and pull them out. I hope this makes sense. Anyway, I'm sure there's been human error in this catastrophe. How could there not be? But what I'm saying is that I've come to expect poor decision making and a total lack of initiative from government. They can't even balance a budget, at the federal, state, or local levels. I could balance my checkbook and spend within my means when I was a teenager. But I'm not gonna point fingers and get into the blame game. If you want me to blame something besides the storm herself, I blame the nature of government in the first place. It's too big, it's too slow, it's too inefficient, it's too bloated, and it's too intiative-stifling to be effective in normal circumstances, much less in a disaster. It's a systemic issue, more than an issue of individual people in government. Ok, that being said, I see more civilians on the street now -- although many of them appear to be journalist types. More later. I see. You're a professional exploiter, just like Pat Robertson, calling for the murder of Hugo Chavez, as long as your hat is full when it's passed! Too bad they didn't snipe you, O white boy, holier than thou or those coloreds as you call them. I'd like to see the video of one of them thugs as you call them giving you a good old fashioned ass-whipping! You deserve one! Pretending to be a man of the cloth, to keep from holding a REGULAR job! How's your 501C3 status going? Have one! Got a EIN? I wished the FBI would wire me up to catch you! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
[AsburyPark] Sandy
sandy writes: -Go ahead Sharon, let him sue you. Because then he has to open all his books to you. Then you'll see how much money his non-profits are makeing with the conglomerote of Web sites and who knows what else he's running down there. Did I hear silicone valley of the cloth? ];~) The records of my ministry are already open. I filed an action against The City of Long Branch and a Lawyer for Mal Practice. It's RLUIPA, Fair Housing, Civil Rights and Religious Liberties. The case is in Federal Court. When your involved in such a litigation you bear all before the Federal Court. I would suggest you, as well choose your remarks cautiously. Malicious assaults against bona fide organizations made in public are actionable. And you also prove my point. When you run out of intelligent things to say, or don't have anything intelligent to begin with you all tend to attack attack attack... Bearing False Witness is an interesting characteristic. I'll even provide proof,,, CASE INFORMATION: (Lighthouse Institute for Evangelism v. City of Long Branch, Case No. 00-33366, U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey; Lighthouse Institute for Evangelism v. City of Long Branch, U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, Case No. 03-2343) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
