[AsburyPark] Re: Jersey Shore Rescue Mission Redevelopment

2006-07-18 Thread Steve
Hi Jack,

You seem like a genuinely Open and Nice Person, much more so than most
of the People who are engineering the Disaster that's happening here
in Asbury Park.

The first thing that you might want to consider when talking about the
Homeless resorting to Crime is that the below People were considered
as Criminals throughout History, depending on your perspective, or
that of which Side you believed in:

  Jesus Christ
  Gandhi
  Martin Luther King
  Thomas Jefferson
  ALL American Indians
  The Irish (I'm 1/4 Irish)
 etc., etc. You get the Point (?)

MANY (But not All) People resort to Crime when there's NO other way
for them to Survive!  And Most Crime is actually INTENTIONALLY caused
by the RICH to hold People down, as well as to keep People Against
them fighting Each Other ... So they can't defeat the Rich!

Tell me, WHY must 5% of the Population in the USA Control 90% of the
Money and Real Estate  Businesses?  There's NO Justifiable Reason for
it EXCEPT that they are Greedy, Inhumane and Egotistical .To use 3
of a possible 20 Words to describe them!  Gluttons, as in the Bible!

When People cannot Feed their Kids, Pay their Rent, pay Electricity or
Heat, have no Medical Insurance, No Job Security or a Living Wage  ...
HOW can they be HAPPY and Secure?

Do you Know that we are Supposed to Be Guaranteed a Safe and Secure
Life BY our Government and Country, not to mention God  each other. 
The Words All People are Created Equal and have the Right to Pursue
Life, Liberty  Happiness . HOW can one be Happy, when the Rich
DENY them Housing, Food, Education and Medical Attention, even worse,
deny them the right to OWN Property of their OWN?

IF the Minimum Wage had just simply kept up with Inflation since 1970
($1.75), it would be $14+ NOW, which is considered a Living Wage for
Monmouth County!

Do you know that to maintain a 2 Bedroom in NJ now with 2 Adults and
one child costs $42,600 Just to pay Bills!  Or an equivalent Home!

In Asbury you have:

 NO Rent Control  Average Apartment Rose 60-80% in 3 Years!
 NO Jobs to Mention ... Median Income is $24,400
 NO new Affordable Housing in 15-20 Years 
 78% Minorities  ... Who are a Needed Low Income Work Force who 
  are gradually LEAVING Monmouth County or NJ entirely!
 Racism IS Rampant here!  Jim Bruno  Jo0hn Loffredo spout out 
 their Racist beliefs regularly.

By the way ...I'll put in your Exact Quote from Stand Up for Asbury
(Which should be called Support a Racist and Intolerant Asbury
Park). Here's what you said:

This is what stand up states;
The Mission is not offering a community service – it will serve the
homeless and drug abusers from Newark to Atlantic City  Could anyone
provide clarification for this, because it sounds to me like this
mission will serve people other then from AP.

   They are intentional LIARS and Bigots!  WE have been sending People
OUT of Monmouth County to places like the Atlantic City Rescue Mission
for YEARS  Because this is the MOST Racist County in the Entire
USA  The LAST County to endorse Civil Rights! Check it out!

You also said about the Homeless:

But one thing I'd like to say...if somebody becomes homeless due
to the socio-economic problems you've mentioned, does that mean they
begin to lose their morals too, and begin to do things like puke on my
front lawn, throw liquor bottles on my front lawn, buy and deal drugs
etc?

   Jack, believe it or NOT, those SAME Words were used to describe 
the troublesome Students attending Monmouth University and Living in
Homes in Long Branch, Elberon, etc.!  Does that answer your comments?

Go and talk with Lieutenant George Corbin on the Police Department and
HE will tell you what the People here have lived through, and WHY!

Crime is MUCH worse since 2002 BECAUSE of the Redevelopment and the
Lack of the Things which I mentioned above!  And you haven't seen
anything yet!

Do you realize that the American Colonists started the Revolution for
the SAME Reasons that are prevalent today?  BUT, now our OWN US
Government is doing it to Us, not a Foreign King across the Atlantic!
They couldn't afford the British Taxes, and now Our People Cannot
afford either Taxes, the Reduced Value of Labor or the Blow Out of
Proportion Real Estate Costs!  In the 1800's, People were GIVEN Land
(Homesteading) ..Of Course, at the Loss of the Indians ... Who
were SCREWED!

Peace Jack,  at least you are open minded, not like these Transplants
from NYC who kiss the Fishmans Butts and Screw the People who lived
here for 50-100 Years!  They'll pay when they meet their Maker!  The
Same Group from Lakewood  NYC is doing it here now!

Good Luck, 

Steve
P.S. CALL Dave Scott at (732) 988-0242 to get the TRUTH about the
Mission ... Don't believe those Dirt Bags at SUFA who are Lying to you
and distorting People's Views! Racism is based in Ignorance, Fear and
Hatred  All of which those Leaders 

[AsburyPark] Re: Tax Increase

2006-07-18 Thread oakdorf


 Does anyone know what the new tax rate is? I was looking at my 
 quarterly statement and my bill will increase by $750 next year.  
What 
 the ROI on that?


It's called reality here in NJ. And I don't think you guys get 
revalued just yet.

New tax bills arrived in Ocean Twp as well. That's why I love 
the ...only 1.23 per $1000 increase or however it gets worded. 
Never appears right.

What will happen or should be happening soon, is that LANDLORDS will 
be forced out of the business (those that are looking for cash flow) 
as the taxes eat into the profits UNLESS the tenants can asborb the 
TAX INCREASES - meaning those barely or not making ends meet will 
leave at some point with no state sponsored housing.

One big circle.








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[AsburyPark] Re: Jersey Shore Rescue Mission Redevelopment

2006-07-18 Thread Hinge
I don't know what the answer is to all this, but I can say this.
Racism is disgusting to me.
The other day, out of the blue when I was talking about AP with a contractor, 
he told a 
story about how his family owned a hotel in AP, and that they built a pool, and 
how he was 
disgusted one day to find the pool filled with monkees
He wasn't talking about the kind of monkee one finds in a zoo either.
What sickened me about this is that he thought it was ok to be racial in front 
of me, like he 
assumed i thought the same way he did.
That attitude makes me sick, and it's sad that it's still happening to this day.
I wish Asbury's multi-ethnic makeup could integrate more then it does. I wonder 
how 
many of the people trying to develop Asbury reach out to African Americans etc?
Of course, that's a two way street as well.
As for the economics of Asbury, I'm not sure if I want to engage in a Rich vs. 
Poor debate.
I agree there's a huge gap in our economy, but one thing i'd like to say is 
that 
it's also up to people to do what they can with their lives. Sure, it's a rich 
persons country, 
but there's plenty of ambitious people, like myself, who work their asses off 
and carve out 
a nice life. 
New Jersey is really a joke when it comes to our economy, but I think that our 
economic 
woes are part of a bigger national picture.
In my opinion, America has blown it in so many ways.
We forgot about mom and pop, and now we give our money to mega retailers that 
sell 
mostly foreign goods.
Once upon a time, America was the king of manufacturing, but not any more. I 
recently 
heard a report on NPR about the tee shirt industry, and how it's now dominated 
by China.
I know that for the most part, we Americans love our freedoms and country, but 
I think 
we've sold out on our culture. We just becoming a big, predictable homogenized 
nation 
trying to get the rest of the world to believe in the American Way.
Welcome to the Empire of the United States.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jack,
 
 You seem like a genuinely Open and Nice Person, much more so than most
 of the People who are engineering the Disaster that's happening here
 in Asbury Park.
 
 The first thing that you might want to consider when talking about the
 Homeless resorting to Crime is that the below People were considered
 as Criminals throughout History, depending on your perspective, or
 that of which Side you believed in:
 
   Jesus Christ
   Gandhi
   Martin Luther King
   Thomas Jefferson
   ALL American Indians
   The Irish (I'm 1/4 Irish)
  etc., etc. You get the Point (?)
 
 MANY (But not All) People resort to Crime when there's NO other way
 for them to Survive!  And Most Crime is actually INTENTIONALLY caused
 by the RICH to hold People down, as well as to keep People Against
 them fighting Each Other ... So they can't defeat the Rich!
 
 Tell me, WHY must 5% of the Population in the USA Control 90% of the
 Money and Real Estate  Businesses?  There's NO Justifiable Reason for
 it EXCEPT that they are Greedy, Inhumane and Egotistical .To use 3
 of a possible 20 Words to describe them!  Gluttons, as in the Bible!
 
 When People cannot Feed their Kids, Pay their Rent, pay Electricity or
 Heat, have no Medical Insurance, No Job Security or a Living Wage  ...
 HOW can they be HAPPY and Secure?
 
 Do you Know that we are Supposed to Be Guaranteed a Safe and Secure
 Life BY our Government and Country, not to mention God  each other. 
 The Words All People are Created Equal and have the Right to Pursue
 Life, Liberty  Happiness . HOW can one be Happy, when the Rich
 DENY them Housing, Food, Education and Medical Attention, even worse,
 deny them the right to OWN Property of their OWN?
 
 IF the Minimum Wage had just simply kept up with Inflation since 1970
 ($1.75), it would be $14+ NOW, which is considered a Living Wage for
 Monmouth County!
 
 Do you know that to maintain a 2 Bedroom in NJ now with 2 Adults and
 one child costs $42,600 Just to pay Bills!  Or an equivalent Home!
 
 In Asbury you have:
 
  NO Rent Control  Average Apartment Rose 60-80% in 3 Years!
  NO Jobs to Mention ... Median Income is $24,400
  NO new Affordable Housing in 15-20 Years 
  78% Minorities  ... Who are a Needed Low Income Work Force who 
   are gradually LEAVING Monmouth County or NJ entirely!
  Racism IS Rampant here!  Jim Bruno  Jo0hn Loffredo spout out 
  their Racist beliefs regularly.
 
 By the way ...I'll put in your Exact Quote from Stand Up for Asbury
 (Which should be called Support a Racist and Intolerant Asbury
 Park). Here's what you said:
 
 This is what stand up states;
 The Mission is not offering a community service – it will serve the
 homeless and drug abusers from Newark to Atlantic City  Could anyone
 provide clarification for this, because it sounds to me like this
 mission will serve people other then from AP.
 
   

[AsburyPark] Don't Miss Out On Broadcast Opportunity

2006-07-18 Thread jerseykev





www.asburyparknj.com  www.asburyparkvideo.com is providing 
an digital video broadcast opportunity to any individual, organization or 
business to broadcast video on the Internet at the above mentioned domain 
names.

All you need is the video, I will convert it to stream and broadcast it on 
to the world wide web for you at reduced rates.

If you do not have a camcorder I will make one available to you as 
well*

If you have an interest please feel free to contact Jersey Kev Productions 
serving the digital needs of The Jersey Shore.

KEVIN BROWN
732.222.6224  732.822.7161
www.thejerseyshore.com is 
another broadcast location on the web for your consideration.
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[AsburyPark] Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-18 Thread Hinge
This was just forwarded to me by a friend. I did a little research before 
posting to see if it's 
legit, and it does appear to be;

NJ is starting up a 30 day speeding ticket rally. From what I 
hear, every trooper assigned to this has to hand out 1 ticket every 
10 to 20 minutes. They will be focusing in around this area so 
watch out. 
Here's what a New Jersey State trooper sent: 
Starting today (6/7/06), New Jersey will launch a 30 day speeding ticket 
frenzy. The state estimates that 9 million dollars will be 
generated in speeding tickets. 1 million will go to pay state 
troopers' overtime. 
There will 50 state troopers on duty at all times patrolling the 9 
main intersections and highways. They are the following: 
I-295 north and south 
1-95 (Jersey Turnpike) north and south 
1-80 east and west 
I-287 north and south 
I-78 east and west 
1-195 east and west 
1-280 east and west 
Rt. 130 north and south 
Garden State Parkway north and south 
I'm warning everyone now that 5 mph above the limit can justify 
a ticket and every state trooper is supposed to pull a car over and 
write a ticket every 10 to 20 minutes. They have issued 30 brand 
new unmarked Crown Victoria cruisers and are bringing in all of 
their part timers on full time. If you work in NJ, NY, DE or CT you 
will probably take one of these highways. It's up to you how fast 
you are going when they clock you. 
101.5 FM confirmed all of this. So be safe and don't forget 
speeding tickets are on you. You've been warned. 
Driving Ticket fine increase in NJ: 
Starting on August 15th, the price of a ticket for violation of NJ 
Law39:3-29 (failure to show your driver's license, registration, 
or insurance card at the time you are stopped) is going from 
$44.00 to $173.00. Please make sure your vehicles have the proper 
documents in them. If you jump in the car to run to the store and 
forget your wallet with your license in it and you are stopped 
Oh well... you just spent $173. And the fine for not having all 
three documents is $519!!! 
Forward to people in NJ, and let them know of this change. And be 
careful, the fine for hand held cell phone use while driving will 
be going up to $180.00.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Don't Miss Out On Broadcast Opportunity

2006-07-18 Thread vinny
Don't waste your money on this, if you need to stream it use one of
the free services such as http://video.google.com 

And if you need a camcorder, I'll buy one and let you use it for free,
plus I'll show you how to upload it to your favorite video site.


ps. one more thing kev, just because the domain name has Asbury Park
in it doesn't mean it is a business of Asbury Park.


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 _www.asburyparkvideo.com_ (http://www.asburyparkvideo.com)  is
providing  an digital video 
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to broadcast video 
 on the Internet at the above mentioned domain  names.
  
 All you need is the video, I will convert it to stream and broadcast
it on  
 to the world wide web for you at reduced rates.
  
 If you do not have a camcorder I will make one available to you as 
well*
  
 If you have an interest please feel free to contact Jersey Kev
Productions  
 serving the digital needs of The Jersey Shore.
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Wolfe










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[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury, Meeting!

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Wolfe










Steve,



I really do not appreciate the use of the word racist
as a blanket statement to label those against your point of view. In
addition, statistics without a source attached to them are as worthless as the
claims they are meant to support. To that effect, please review my main
point and the statistics I offer to back it up:



ASSERTION: Many community members are concerned about the
ability of sexual offenders and drug addicts to stay at the Market Street Mission
since there will be no background checks performed, unlike the Salvation Army
and the County does. 



STATISTICS: 

In New Jersey
in 2004, the following are the statistics of arrested individuals by race:

(NOTE: The Federal Government and many state
governments do not list Hispanic as a race but as ethnicity since you can be a
White Hispanic or a Black Hispanic):



Fifty-five
percent of the arrested perpetrators were white, 44 percent were black and 1
percent were other races.




 
  
  
  
  
  White
  
  
  Black
  
  
  American Indian or Alaskan Native
  
  
  Asian or Pacific Islander
  
 
 
  
  Rape
  
  
  276
  
  
  218
  
  
  0
  
  
  4
  
 
 
  
  Sex Offenses 
  
  
  1472
  
  
  562
  
  
  15
  
  
  48
  
 
 
  
  Prostitution and Vice
  
  
  1433
  
  
  915
  
  
  4
  
  
  114
  
 
 
  
  Drug Abuse Violations
  
  
  29269
  
  
  26092
  
  
  86
  
  
  367
  
 


SOURCE: New Jersey
Office of Attorney General 2004 Uniform Crime Report http://www.state.nj.us/lps/njsp/info/ucr2004/pdf/2004_sect3.pdf



While almost half of the nations homeless population
is African-American (49%), over a third are Caucasian (35%)

SOURCE: National Coalition for the Homeless http://www.nationalhomeless.org/publications/facts/Whois.pdf



Since the statistics show that the majority of the sexual
offenses and drug-related offenses in New
  Jersey are committed by Caucasians and 35% of the
countrys homeless population is Caucasian, I am comfortable in the fact
that I am against the Market
  Street Mission for
the right reasons and not for something ignorant like racism. I hope
these statistics enlighten you in some manner. May God be with you.



Respectfully,

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[AsburyPark] Re: Don't Miss Out On Broadcast Opportunity

2006-07-18 Thread Hinge
I'm sorry I complained. I'm pretty much a new comer here trying to figure out 
how our 
community works, because alot of it doesn't make sense to me.
I think if I would've understood who you are, and what you are trying to 
accomplish, I 
would not have said a thing.
Sincerely, Jack
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 The service is a community service, and it belongs in a community message  
 board.  It's unfortunate that some people just to assail others.
  
 However, I like to give a honest bit of advise.  I would take him up  on his 
 offer, if I was you.  Let him buy you all a camcorder.  The  funds we raise 
 by 
 services we provide go directly to the Lighthouse Mission that  feeds hungry 
 people and supports people going through temporary  homelessness.  I didn't 
 think I had to point this out cause most folks know  that Kevin Brown, runs 
 the 
 mission downtown in Long Branch.  
  
 Better food for thought, is that when a faith based organization raises  
 money providing services to the community at reduced rates, people get 
 savings  
 and charity gets accomplished.  The minute an agency is not raising money  
 this 
 way, they have to go to the State and Federal Government for funding.   Once 
 you get the public money, you have the public problem.
  
 For instance, if the rescue mission was privately funded, they can control  
 who sleeps in the available beds.  Once they have to go outside the  
 community 
 and get public money, than the provider of the funds controls who  sleeps in 
 the bed.
  
 If I make $5,000.00 and apply it to the 5 beds I offer temporary homeless  
 people.  I can say... only 5 people from such and such a place can occupy  
 the 
 beds.  But now, lets say someone starts to decry the non profit trying  to 
 raise the money with web casting, hosting, t shirts, 50/50's, chances,  
 bazzars, 
 las vegas nights, etc... and the $5,000 is cut down to two.  Well  now I go 
 to 
 the county and apply for the $3,000.00 because there are an  established 5 
 people per cycle homeless.  Now I have 2 beds that are  controlled by our 
 standards of service to our local community and three funded  by COUNTY, who 
 will 
 ship in from outside the local area to keep the beds  full.
  
 So go ahead, tell me I can't raise money with specialized services to the  
 community, and you will cause non profits to get funding from outside sources 
  
 who will dump, dump, dump... it's a paradox!
  
 Anyway... those that know me, know what I am all about. The new  people, well 
 welcome to the Jersey Shore.
  
 Rev. Kevin Brown
 Lighthouse Mission
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 732.222.6224.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-18 Thread Hinge
Oops,
I'm sorry.
I was given that info by somebody who claimed it was 100% real.
My bad.
Sincerely, Jack

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[AsburyPark] Re: Jersey Shore Rescue Mission Redevelopment

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Wolfe










Steve,



You talk about Asbury Park
being the last county to endorse Civil Rights and then go on to say:



Racism is based in Ignorance, Fear and Hatred  All of which
those Leaders spew all over! The GLBT's and Hasidics can dominate HELL after
they're done with Asbury Park  Die!



I guess religion and sexual orientation are not protected by New Jerseys Civil
Rights Laws. Oh, right, they actually are! Do you even realize that
your vocabulary and tone are as vile as what you claim to be true?



I do not believe Jesus Christ (never read a hateful word out of his
mouth in the New Testament), Gandhi and Martin Luther King (both of whom have
relatives speaking out today for gay rights), Thomas Jefferson(the big pusher
of Separation between Church and State), and American Indians (referred to gays
as Two-Spirited and often they were the tribes medicine
men) would endorse your hateful views. 



Unlike you, I wish you a happy and healthy life and hope you are
forgiven in the end.



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[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-18 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This was just forwarded to me by a friend. I did a little research 
before posting to see if it's 
 legit, and it does appear to be;
 
 NJ is starting up a 30 day speeding ticket rally. From what I 
 hear, every trooper assigned to this has to hand out 1 ticket 
every 
 10 to 20 minutes. They will be focusing in around this area so 
 watch out. 

NEVER plead guilty to a speeding ticket. They can never prove it. It 
is financially unfeasible for them to do so. They not only must 
bring to court the certificate for the calibration of the device 
(laser, rader, etc.) but must also bring the certificate for the 
facility doing the calibration as well as the certificate for the 
calibration of the speedometer it was tested against (and the 
certificate for the speedometer and the facility that calibrated 
it). They just cannot do it. Say nothing else but ask for that 
proof. They have to prove you guilty of a specifica speed and just 
not going too fast.







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[AsburyPark] Re: Tax Increase

2006-07-18 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, chooseorlose3636 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Does anyone know what the new tax rate is? I was looking at my 
 quarterly statement and my bill will increase by $750 next year.  
What 
 the ROI on that?
 
 Looks like more spending is Asbury.

Note the enclosure with it saying NJ law requires bills to be mailed at 
least 25 days before due date. The envelope was postmarked July 13. 
Taxes are due Aug 1. That's 19 days by my count. 






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