[AsburyPark] Thank you Kevin, Jimmy and John
Best PR we've had in years. The Future Starts Here team will go down in Asbury Park history as the greatest leaders this City has ever had. 30 years of other City Councils left these guys with a challenge that most thought couldn't be met. They have the City soaring, turning huge names like Chetrit and Madison Marquette into believers. Enjoy: The tide's rising in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/16/07 Post Comment The new investment partners in the Asbury Park oceanfront will soon be sitting down with the City Council in hopes of negotiating amendments to the most recent redevelopment agreement. We're not enthusiastic about all of the proposed changes, including plans for a 20-plus-story hotel just west of the Casino and increased building heights on some of the Ocean Avenue condominiums to accommodate more above-ground parking. But we're pleased about the progress that has been made on the oceanfront and optimistic that Asbury Partners, working with its partner Madison Marquette, will succeed in bringing the beachfront fully back to life. Not too long ago, we were more hopeful than optimistic. Today, the evidence of renewal on the beachfront is everywhere: the gorgeous interior restoration of the Paramount Theater, the construction of the imposing North Beach condominiums north of the Berkeley Carteret Hotel. The opening of the Salt Water Beach Cafe in the space formerly occupied by Howard Johnson's and the beautiful array of flowers outside it. The imminent restoration of the Arthur Pryor band shell, named after Asbury Park's first superstar musician, at the Fifth Avenue pavilion. Other positive signs: the razing of the dilapidated Casino and the beehive of activity to renovate it. The sprucing up of all the pavilions and the tidying up of the grounds. The repaving of Ocean Avenue. The new ownership of the Berkeley Carteret. The regular police patrols on the boardwalk. The new condominiums by Wesley Lake. Recall what the oceanfront looked like just two or three years ago. The decaying Casino. The dilapidated boardwalk. The abandoned C-8 hulk. The depressing desolation. Viewed from that perspective, the resurrection has been nothing short of miraculous. Acknowledging the huge strides that have been made in no way minimizes the challenges that lay ahead for the city as a whole, which continues to be wracked with crime and poverty, and has a school system bordering on the dysfunctional. The hope always has been that a revived oceanfront, in conjunction with a revived downtown, would help turn Asbury Park around. There are no guarantees. But success in those two parts of the city is a prerequisite to increasing the tax base, allowing for improved municipal services, and developing the critical mass of concerned citizens needed to achieve a full-blown, citywide renaissance. Some naysayers seem to believe the role of the redevelopers is to magically solve all of Asbury Park's problems. It is not. Their job is to make a reasonable return on their investment in a socially responsible way. It is the job of city officials, city residents and those who desperately want to see Asbury Park succeed to make it happen. Madison Marquette and Asbury Partners are an important component of the city's rebirth. They can help breathe new life into the city. But they need help from everyone to make it flourish. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Thank you Kevin, Jimmy and John
On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:16 AM, justifiedright wrote: Best PR we've had in years. The Future Starts Here team will go down in Asbury Park history as the greatest leaders this City has ever had. 30 years of other City Councils left these guys with a challenge that most thought couldn't be met. They have the City soaring, turning huge names like Chetrit and Madison Marquette into believers. Tommy, I'm just curious as to what your take is on the Future Starts Here team setting up a plan that appeared heavily geared towards residential and now basically changing the plan toward one geared more towards tourism. Doesn't that kind of strike you as a bit strange? What is coming now is almost a complete reversal. While I'm strongly in favor of what we're seeing now, I have a hard time calling them great leaders when they basically came up with a plan, took several years, and then scrapped the plan for something which makes more sense for a beach town. Wouldn't a great leader set a course of action that would work from the beginning? Or do you disagree that the plan seems to have moved from residential to tourism based? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thank you Kevin, Jimmy and John
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:16 AM, justifiedright wrote: Best PR we've had in years. The Future Starts Here team will go down in Asbury Park history as the greatest leaders this City has ever had. 30 years of other City Councils left these guys with a challenge that most thought couldn't be met. They have the City soaring, turning huge names like Chetrit and Madison Marquette into believers. i have no personal problem with madison marquette, there is no question they have accomplished much in a short time,but lets not knight them or make them saints quite so fast, i do have a problem with thier alleged restaurant hero gabe, the way he treats people is terrible if this is his style,it will be a short stay and he will be back to running a surf shop,with louisville tattoed to his forhead Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thank you Kevin, Jimmy and John
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: On Jun 16, 2007, at 11:16 AM, justifiedright wrote: I heard a good quote in a conversation I had with a entertianment/hotel consultant. It had to do with work he did with a municipality. I told them you're not in the hospitality business nor the real estate, that's what this is. This is a hospitality business. You're job is to run a government Yod don't know what you have here nor how to maximize it's value.. He told me it then took him 2 weeks to explain what the hospitality business is. Running a beachfront, a club is the hospitality business. Sitting back and reaping rewards when things are good and not constantly improving will lead to total failure, until you are FORCED to react. I then commented, kind of like Asbury, right? But it wasn't the topic of our conversation. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] We should do a poll to see who are perceived to be the top 5 chatty Cathys'
Hmm, how'd you get my last name rook? Do i know you!? - You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
[AsburyPark] Bicycle Riding
just got back from a 3 hour walk on the boards police are on the boards people riding bikes are on the boards so, what gives. has the ordinance been changed, or is it being ignored ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycle Riding
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just got back from a 3 hour walk on the boards police are on the boards people riding bikes are on the boards so, what gives. has the ordinance been changed, or is it being ignored ? It's til 12 noon in ap, 10 in OG, 9 in Bradley. 9 in spring lake, I rode to sea girt this am. Perfect day. The bw wasn't really that crowded, ohter then the people bike riding There should be time limit on runners as well... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bicycle Riding
If the bike ridding time is till 12pm, then that answers your question. Also, if it's before 12, and not busy, the ploloce probably give the bike riders a break and figure their the only ones out there anyway. Makes sence. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[AsburyPark] MM Press Releases
FYI Asbury Park Restoration Emerges in Time for Summer 2007 Click here: Digital50: Madison Marquette News and more Business News http://digital50.com/news/items/PR/2007/06/14/DCTH048/asbury-park-resto\ ration-emerges-in-time-for-summer-2007.html Asbury Park's Paramount Theatre Refurbished as Part of Project June 14 (Bloomberg) Click here: Bloomberg.com: U.S. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=aRJZkvUWmamUrefer=\ us http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database?query=writingsubm\ it=Searchmethod=reportRowstbl=4
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
In a message dated 6/15/2007 11:24:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country illegally. However, this country, including its government, citizens and business leaders, have to stop being two-faced on the immigration issue. Businesses are encouraged and permitted to attract illegal immigrants. While there are laws the penalize companies for employing illegals, they are simply a slap on the wrist. If you really want to stop it, then throw the employer in jail instead of fining him. The father of one of my daughters students just got deported for being undocumented. That is the correct term, not illegal. So now the mother is stuck here with her many children, all of whom were born in this country, without support. BTW, the husband has never been in trouble with the law and works. A century and more ago, American businesses advertised for workers in Europe. That is how many of us came to be. America has an historic love affair with cheap labor. I am not condoning the johns' actions, although I certainly can sympathize with some of their likely plights of being in a strange country all alone without a mate after working who knows how many hours all to send some money home. Prostitution is a problem here in AP for other reasons. The insanity of making it illegal. Will we never learn? Ah! The beauty and courage of thoughtful comments on complex issues. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
The point here is that the police are finally arresting and publishing the names of johns. This is the best tactic they could take. Every guy who thought about coming to Asbury Park to score with a prostitute is going to think twice about it. You dry up the business and the supply goes elsewhere to seek their market. It worked! 18 in one afternoon - probably the tip of the iceberg! Nice work Mark Kinmon and Chris Van Buren! Maureen Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Show_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web _http://www.asburyradio.com/_ (http://www.asburyradio.com/) Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I'm amazed by the Press' reaction to this MM deal with Asbury Partners. The editorial board interview was a cream puff job. No financials -- again!! The only way to be confident of the partnership is to know what they're in for - a dime or a dollar. What's the commitment? Is there an out clause? Do we get to see this contract - ever? And, why should it cost AP anything? Can you say Breach of Contract? Does anyone recall the Dispute Resolution Agreement? Isn't this allowing the Partners to dodge another commitment and more deadlines? Tell me where it's not so. Another round of negotiating is necessary, says Bruno. Another round of private - out of the public eye talk among the principals - who don't include you or me. This basically allows the City to acquiesce instead of pressing its rightful legal position with the Partners. Now the City will be one more entity removed from enforcing its rights. Gees, only a lawyer like Faiella could feel comfortable plunging into a tangled web like this one. Oh, that's right, Faiella is the Partners' lawyer. What did the editorial board story say, Lamle is a 50% partner? Lamle? We know that Cherokee is a 50% partner. So who's out of the game? Or is the Press just playing loose with the facts again? As in oh they declined to discuss the financial end of this reportedly $150 million investment. The financials are the story!!! How does the City enforce its interests in this deal if it's between the Partners and MM? Sure I'm glad somebody got out there and cleaned up and prettied up the 5th Av pavilion and opened businesses there. What's not to like? But this city isn't a little girl to be told, Don't look a gift horse in the face. This is just the time when we should be looking that horse straight in the eye. As we used to say, we've been down so long anything looks like up. But this is just the time to be most wary. Just tell me why the city is giving anything up now. We've got a signed deal - two signed deals. Why should we make a third? Isn't it allowing the Partners to square the deal with MM? If so, the City is giving the Partners the equivalent of millions to give to MM in order to buy the Partners’ way out of their hole with the City. Well? Maureen Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Show_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web _http://www.asburyradio.com/_ (http://www.asburyradio.com/) Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Thank you Kevin, Jimmy and John
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy, I'm just curious as to what your take is on the Future Starts Here team setting up a plan that appeared heavily geared towards residential and now basically changing the plan toward one geared more towards tourism. Doesn't that kind of strike you as a bit strange? What is coming now is almost a complete reversal. Repectfully I don't see a complete reversal. There's still going to be 3100 condos. MM's job is to make the retail/entertainment better. All they have made public is that they want the proposed Palace Hotel to be 20 stories instead of 8, and to include some kiddie rides in the open spaces. Other than than I have not seen any real departure from the plan we have. Could change though. Let's see what the new round of talks brings. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
