[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Fountain Cleaned!!!

2007-06-19 Thread Hinge
Tommy,
That's weird. We must've been there moments apart. I also saw the big dude with 
the 
yellow lab.
Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to come to the park.
I'm really happy that the city did such a good job with the cleaning.
Next step would be to get some more lighting in the park.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess that explains it Jack.  I took my kids down there at 7 to 
 help you clean up.  Didn't see anyone but a big dude in a red shirt 
 walking what I think was a yellow labrador.
 
 Was that you?
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
 
  This weekend, I reported the 2nd vandalism and trashing of the 
 fountain to the PD and Public 
  Works dept. This morning, I was happy to see a crew out there 
 working to clean up the 
  fountain, and I must say that they did an amazing job with the 
 clean up.
  I'm now going to go and place the 2 nice new Dragon Begonia plants 
 I just purchased in the 2 
  urns on the fountain.
  You'll probably see me there watering them every week until they 
 either die or are vandalized 
  themselves.
  Kudos to the AP public works for taking care of this.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] More Sales Data

2007-06-19 Thread wernerapnj
From the APPress web site:

Property sales on www.DataUniverse.com, the Asbury Park Press' public records 
site, have 
been updated to include sales from 1997 through much of April 2007.

Visit www.DataUniverse.com and click on the UPDATED: Property Sales box on 
the right-
hand column.

The site can be searched by town name, address, type of property, sales range, 
and the 
names of a buyer and/or seller. The data are based on the state's assessment 
files. There is 
the likelihood that not all recent sales are available because of reporting 
delays between 
some towns and the state.

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: cameras,,,

2007-06-19 Thread 2fine4u
There are cameras that can be hidden, or mounted on telephone poles,
where individuals, don't realize they're there!  Like, surprise! 
Honest people, don't and won't care!  I don't have a d**m, thing to
hide, except, you'd better NOT pick your nose or scratch your a$$ in
public, either and if your pants get stuck up your backside, someone
will be watching and laughing at YOU!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You know what would be funny?
 If city residents started putting up their own webcams, and then some
 enterprising person put all those webcams onto one webpage. It would
 be so easy to do this. I could start by putting up a ho/john webcam
 outside of my living room window.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
 
  You'd have to hope they don't shoot out the cameras.
  
  Cameras with guns mounted on them.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Was somebody murdered in my home in 2001?

2007-06-19 Thread Hinge
Last night, I had a strange encounter with a man who claimed that somebody was 
murdered 
in my home in 2001.
Does anybody know if this is true?
I live near the corner of 1st and Bergh.
Apparently, the guy who lived there back then was some kind of celebrity.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday

2007-06-19 Thread 2fine4u
I thought English, is and has been, the language, all along!

As far as minorities being the new majority, Blacks of African
Descent should be paid Reparations, for the 450 years of UN-paid, FREE
labor, sale of thier relatives, the rape of its' women and the
injustice, of having to catch up, for being under-educated,
red-lined and forced to live in the ghettos, which promisees us a
trip, to the gulags, (prisons), serving longer sentences, for crimes,
the majority, get a slap on the wrist for!  Okay, enough said.  For
those who always scream, MOVE ON, I challenge you, to live like
this; deprived, depressed and disgusted!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote:
 
 
  I have nothing against that (and personally  
  love Spanish food); however, I do think America would be better off  
  having an official language as I do see many problems for the
country  
  in the next 5-10 years and I don't see the assimilation or desire to  
  be part of the melting pot that previous immigration waves
showed.   
  This immigration wave is very different.  If you don't believe that,  
  please show me a part of America where my German ancestors still  
  speak solely German.  I doubt there is such a place.
 
 
 Learn now, minorities are the new majority. Just like the Anglos,
 didn't like the German influx, and together they hated the Irish, then
 all three started to hate Jews, Italians and other darker Europeans,
 us Americans are adopting the same attitude to the Latinos. I saw
 the movie Bobby the other night. A Mexican hotel worker replies to an
 Anglo who accuses him of crossing the border illegally, that Mexicans
 didn't cross the border, but the border crossed them. Seems to me that
 the Southwest was theirs first.
 
 America belongs to the world. It has from the beginning and always
 will (should).
 
 Give me your tired, your poor,
 Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
 The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
 Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
 I lift my lamp beside the golden door!





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday

2007-06-19 Thread 2fine4u
I can't even dignify this, with an answer!  It was rich whites, who
forced new Irish immigrants, to go to war and the Irish in turn,
took their frustration out on New York Blacks, including Black
children from an orphanage!  Are you proud, that the Irish lynched
us, as you say?  I wouldn't brag on this, if I were you.  Your slip,
is showing!  Again!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  
  Lets not forget the costs to the poor Black community that can't get 
  a good wage because of our lack of enforcement.  That's a huge cost 
  not only in terms of real dollars, but also to our domestic 
  tranquility when the Blacks finally say enough is enough.
 
 Please stop spewing garbage and pandering. Yours and my Irish
 immigrant ancestors lynched negroes during the Draft Riots for
 taking the jobs of the Irish.
 
 Are you telling me that many of the youth of AP are not working
 because the Mexicans took their jobs? You are hilarious.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday

2007-06-19 Thread 2fine4u
NO! Only the descendants, of slaves, of the original 50 states, can be
African American, even though Barack Obama, was born of a white
American Mother and African father, makes HIM, an African American,
also, because he was born in the States, he can't OWN, the story of
having descended from slaves, brought to the North American Continent!
 Jamaicans, are quick to tell me, that they have a country and a flag!
 I also got this statement from all Islanders, except those born in
the American Virgin Islands, who are as American as I am, because St.
Thomas, St, Croix, are American Colonies and their residents, serve in
the Armed Forces, as Americans, still in the Panama Canal Zone, are
Americans also.  Bet you didn't know that!  Obama, readily admits,
that he has benefitted from the gains, made by the Civil Rights
Movement, of the 60's and the ongoing fight, to achieve equality,
guaranteed under the Constitution, but denied its' African
descendants, still!  Blacks, have to be ever vigilant, because there
are those who would like nothing better, than to re-enslave us!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Say if one comes from Jamaica?  Are they still African American? 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:30:46 PM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
 
 For what it's worth, it's not blacks it's African Americans. And
it's not Mexicans it's 
 hispanic. Many of the hispanic people in our country come from other
places other then 
 Mexico.
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ . wrote:
 
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright
  justifiedright@  wrote:
  
   
   I'm not concerned that there is no opportunity for them in Mexico. 
   I'm concerned about perserving opportunity for poor Blacks in 
   America.
  
  
  Give me a break! Whatever problems/obstacles there are for poor
  blacks (God bless you kind Bawana) has nothing to do with illegal
  immigration. I have not seen any Mexicans putting them out of work.
  There is plenty of blame to go around for the failures of our inner
  cities; to all sides. It has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
  That's a lame excuse.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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[AsburyPark] Re: Shooting reported in Asbury

2007-06-19 Thread 2fine4u
You're right on point, but the West Side looks like Shangri-La,
compared to the lower 9!  I didn't want to admit, that I cried, or
that my sister photographed me, on the top of 2 concrete stairs with
inlaid marble accents, that have no house, behind it!  Scores, of
schools, still uninhabitable, no cleanup and it looks like a ghost
town, not part of a large city!  Empty homes, some boarded up, some
untouched, some being worked on, with a FEMA trailer, somewhere on the
property, (some in the front of the home), on the sidewalk!  Come on
people, these were homes, that are OWNED and PAID for!  Blacks and
whites, didn't just show up, in Louisiana, they've ALWAYS BEEN
THERE!  New Orleans, was established in 1699, at least that's what my
Tee-Shirt says!  It was once the largest port in the US, until
Houston, took over!  It's French People of Color, are as ARROGANT, as
the French, in Paris, are!  Ask them for a recipe and they will roll
their eyes at you, because if you ask 10 Creoles the same question,
they give the same answer, because they ALL think they're a better
cook, than YOU!  I KNOW, I'm better, than ALL of them!  Putting it out
here, if you want me to throw something together for a benefit, I'm
willing, but won't give YOU, the recipe, either!  Emeril, wishes, he
cooked as good as I do!  The fat chef, too!  I see you laughing!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Took the lower 9th ward tour and it looked like Katrina, just
  happened, although it's almost 2 years!  
 
 Take a drive on the west side of AP, and parts look like katrina hit
 there as well. Which looks better?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday

2007-06-19 Thread oakdorf
MOVE ON, I challenge you, to live like this; deprived, depressed 
and disgusted!

How about taking the opportunity to better one's own condition and 
that of their family by using all the resources available to them to 
get ahead?

My kids want a huge on the ocean, boats and fancy cars. I busted my 
rear to have what I owe the bank today. On most weekends over the 
psat 20 years, my friends would stop by and i'd be covered in 
spackle, paint or dirt working on our house(s). 

This is America, the land of opportunity, of which there are tons. 
Sometimes you have to break out in a sweat to get paid. Most people 
don't want to.

For lack of work, someone could always volunteer, which may lead to a 
paying job.

There are more programs in corporate America to address diversity. 
Job fairs, promotion opportunities etc. 

Having been around that world, as you have, I'm sure you noticed that 
at times, jobs are given to people who simply shouldn't have them, 
given the qualifications.

That's all I'll say on that. Ot get ahead, you have to do it on your 
own and not expect someone else to do it for you. Like the immigrant 
risking it all o the freedom trains from South America for 38 days. 
They are following a dream and an OPPORTUNITY to work.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday

2007-06-19 Thread justifiedright
Assimilation, anyone?

I bravo this column.  Enjoy:

__

The Politically Incorrect Americanism of Alba, Pacino, and Arnold

By Mary Katharine Ham
Tuesday, June 19, 2007


Hablas Espanol? 

Jessica Alba doesn't. Is there anything wrong with that? Apparently 
so. 

The third-generation American and actress is under fire this week 
from fellow Latinos for comments she made to Para Todos magazine: 

Alba is my last name and I'm proud of that. But that's it. My 
grandparents were born in California, the same as my parents, and 
though I may be proud of my last name, I'm American. Throughout my 
whole life, I've never felt connected to one particular race or 
heritage, nor did I feel accepted by any. If you break it down, I'm 
less Latina than Cameron Diaz, whose father is Cuban. But people 
don't call her Latina because she's blonde… 

My grandfather was the only Mexican at his college, the only 
Hispanic person at work and the only one at the all-white country 
club. He tried to forget his Mexican roots, because he never wanted 
his kids to be made to feel different in America. He and my 
grandmother didn't speak Spanish to their children. Now, as a third-
generation American, I feel as if I have finally cut loose. 

My whole life, when I was growing up, not one race has ever accepted 
me, ... So I never felt connected or attached to any race 
specifically. I had a very American upbringing, I feel American, and 
I don't speak Spanish. So, to say that I'm a Latin actress, OK, but 
it's not fitting; it would be insincere.


She never felt connected to any race, specifically, but she always 
felt American. That doesn't sounds like a bad thing, does it? And 
yet, it is, in the eyes of many activists. 

One blog post on the comments remarks, Guess sell-outs come in all 
races and sizes. Another calls it a disturbing hoard of quotes. 
Another claims she hates Mexicans. 

Comments about Alba's comments include, F**K YOU THEN, JESSICA…VIVA 
LA RAZA!!!, She should just change her last name to White, then, 
and I thought she could be a good role model for Latinas, but she 
is a fake, tryin' to be white. 

Alba wasn't trying to make a political statement. Instead, she 
sounds like she was trying to avoid speaking for an entire ethnicity 
and many recent immigrants when she barely speaks Spanish, and 
identifies as an American first. But because she didn't reflexively 
take upon herself her ethnic mantle and collective responsibility, 
she's bashed as a traitor to her race. 

Elsewhere, a phenomenally successful first-generation immigrant was 
sharing his secret to success in America, which was much the same as 
the approach Alba's college-educated grandfather took. When 
addressing the national Association of Hispanic Journalists, and 
responding to question about how Hispanics can improve academically, 
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said: 


You've got to turn off the Spanish television set and avoid 
Spanish-language television, books and newspapers, the Republican 
governor said Wednesday night… 

You're just forced to speak English, and that just makes you learn 
the language faster, Schwarzenegger said. 

I know this sounds odd and this is the politically incorrect thing 
to say, and I'm going to get myself in trouble, he said, noting 
that he rarely spoke German and was forced to learn English when he 
emigrated from Austria.


The response from those in attendance? 


I'm sitting shaking my head not believing that someone would be so 
naive and out of it that he would say something like that, said 
Alex Nogales, president and chief executive of the National Hispanic 
Media Coalition.

Naïve, out-of-it, hateful, traitorous. There is a large segment of 
the country that believes it's somehow disrespectful to emphasize 
assimilation among new immigrants to the country. 

And, it's not just among leftist activists and left-coast gossip 
bloggers that this idea prevails. Just last year, Sen. Harry Reid 
called a proposal to make English the official language of 
America racist,  despite the fact that a large majority of 
Americans support such a measure. 

More recently, Barack Obama called the very discussion of English as 
an official language, divisive during a Democratic debate: 


I have to say that this is the kind of question that is designed 
precisely to divide us. You know, you're right: everybody is going 
to learn to speak English if they live in this country. The issue is 
not whether or not future generations of immigrants are going to 
learn English. The question is, how can we come up with both a legal 
and sensible immigration policy? And when we get distracted by those 
kinds of questions, I think we do a disservice to the American 
people.


But is everyone going to learn English, Sen. Obama? It seems that 
Schwarzenegger's encouragement of English-language immersion for 
immigrants and Alba's family's decision to speak English only are 
put down in pretty 

[AsburyPark] Re: Reparations

2007-06-19 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:16:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 How  about taking the opportunity to better one's own condition and
that of 


I wasn't talking about Reparations, more of one's desire to work at
work, work at getting work and the opportunities that do exist.
Everyone should learn MORE then one job, have more then career so if
one fails, one can still survive. You may not survive as in Job A,
some do better after Job A, some fail. A lawyer can be a teacher, a
lawyer can be a plumber. I knew a georgetown lawyer who sold and fixed
cars instead of practicing. Do I want to go back and flip burgers? No.
One of the best things I learned early on is that to get ahead in
life, you have to move on to the next company. That is what builds a
career and expertise and enables you to succeed. It was beneficial in
the consulting world. Had I stayed put on Job A, I'd be a career man
in ca corporate world in a position that would be easily done with
out. Many, many jobs in the real world are at the mercy of the corp. I
know, because it was job to tell ceos how to cut fat or streamline
their biz or reengineer or automate, workflow, retrain, or whatever
you call it. 

Most just renamed people postions or promoted the people out.

If you want to talk about Reparations I don't know that much, other
then to say the holocaust eliminated billons in Jewish and others
wealth in various forms of properties. The banks hid and still do
billions. Lot's ahve been written about various other religious orgs
role in hiding money. you can't right every wrong of the past with
money, nor can money correct the current or future plight of a number
of people in the US. It works to some degree in real poor countries.
First define poor. Poor here and poor elsewhere is vastly different.
Where you give a shirt off your back means something. Here, it's
meaningless.




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations

2007-06-19 Thread MarioAPNJ
Dave,
 
You wrote:

I wasn't talking about Reparations,  
OK, but the post you were responding to was about reparations.

more of one's desire to work at work, work  at getting work and the 
opportunities that do exist.
Everyone should learn  MORE then one job, have more then career so if one 
fails, one can still  survive. 

I agree with all that
 
I think the thread started several posts back with talk about undocumented  
immigrants, etc., then moved on to English only, assimilation, etc.
 
Very complex issues from listening to the debates on C-Span during recent  
attempts at fixing the immigration laws.  Doesn't seem to be down party  
lines 
either.
 
Personally, I hate going to Home Depot or any other store, turning over a  
box several times trying to find the English version of  contents/instructions. 
 
Once I do find it, the words Made in China  will most likely be there.  I 
also hate having to push a button for  the English version.  
 
My father, an immigrant from Italy, spoke very broken English throughout  his 
60 some years here. And yes, he worked very hard -- to enable my brother and  
me to better ourselves through education.
 
And yet -- at a nearby garden center, for example, I always get the  best 
service (pricing, loading the car, etc.) from employees who are  brown-skinned 
immigrants; most of the white boys there are rarely as  helpful.
 
I stupidly left my wallet on the roof of my car one day last year.  I  fell 
off onto Sunset Ave, but I didn't miss it until I got to Red Bank.  A  day 
later I get a call I could barely understand.  It was a Mexican man  (one of 
many 
who bicycle to work every day on this route) who found it and  all my money 
and all my credit cards strewn on the street.  He asked if I  would drive to 
his 
apt just off Kingsley to pick it up.  He had put  everything neatly back in 
the wallet.  The only thing missing was my Triple  A card which I found in the 
gutter a few days later, so I know everything had  spilled out.
 
Yep, an anecdote.   But I still have mixed feelings, as in I  don't know 
enough, about all the proposed fixes out there.
 
I do know that I can count on AM radio and some bloggers to stir up  more 
emotional culture wars.  
Isn't that how Sunni vs. Shia started?
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations

2007-06-19 Thread Gary Wien

 My father, an immigrant from Italy, spoke very broken English  
 throughout his 60 some years here. And yes, he worked very hard --  
 to enable my brother and me to better ourselves through education.

It's definitely possible that the immigrants want to learn English  
and may even be doing so - I just haven't personally seen it.  I have  
immigrants as neighbors and pass at least 50-100 every day while  
walking my dog.  I've yet to hear a word of English.

What I have been seeing in Shore towns is not much different from  
when I used to go to Elizabeth in the '90s.  I'm not sure how it is  
now, but about 10-15 years ago, English was pretty much a forgotten  
language everywhere but at City Hall (where I think they had a  
mandatory English only policy at the time).  Every sign for every  
business on Main Street was in Spanish.

Is that bad?  Yes and no.  It's nice to have a mixture of cultures;  
however, places like Little Italy and Chinatowns are not seen  
spreading across an entire city.  When an entire city is in a foreign  
language, it seems a bit far fetched to think those people are  
assimilating.  After all, why should they? Everything they need is in  
their native tongue.

But, just as you stated, I know I could be wrong about this.  I'm not  
quoting statistics across the country, I'm only saying what I believe  
based on what I see every day.  The wave of immigration to the Shore  
hasn't been just a few months - it's been several years.  So far what  
I've seen is the emergence of two languages that do not look like  
they have any plans to become one.  And as someone else pointed out,  
when I'm in a foreign country I try to learn the language.  Maybe  
they are too, but so far I haven't seen it.



 
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[AsburyPark] Assimilation, anyone?

2007-06-19 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  (who  
complained about stereotyping in the Sopranos) wrote:

Assimilation, anyone?

I bravo this  column.  Enjoy:
__

The  Politically Incorrect Americanism of Alba, Pacino, and ArnoldHablas  
Espanol? 

Jessica Alba doesn't. Is there anything wrong with that?  Apparently so. 

 
Heckuva job, All those conservative bloggers are doin.'   Bravo!
 
Are more culture wars what we really need when we have huge serious  
problems, across the board, from the international to local levels.
 
Can they be serious?  Or just going after ratings by pushing the hot  
buttons? Or another way to distract us from the missing emails?
===
_E-mails? What e-mails??_ 
(http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/06/19/couricandco/entry2948018.shtml) 
CBS News -  NOBR10 hour


Let’s play a game this Tuesday. See if  you can guess who/which organization 
offered this gem : “The rule of law, the  very foundation for a free society, 
has been under assault, not only by  criminals from the ground up, but also 
from the top down.
_Casual Lawbreaking at the White House_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/06/19/BL2007061900924.html)
   NOBRWashingto
_Report: White House aides used GOP e-mail to skirt  law_ (http://www.cn
n.com/2007/POLITICS/06/18/white.house.emails/)  NO
_Computerworld_ 
(http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasictaxonomyName=legislation_regulationarticleId=9025266taxonomyId=70
intsrc=kc_top)  - _Monsters and  Critics.com_ 
(http://news.monstersandcritics.com/roundups/article_1319803.php/News_Roundup)  
- _VNUNet.com_ 
(http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2192394/storm-grows-missing-white-house)  - 
_Brad  Blog_ 
(http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4703) 
_all  396 news articles »_ 
(http://news.google.com/news?ned=tusncl=1117388858hl=en)  
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Or nuclear waste, or health care, or New Orleans, or the housing market, or  
poor inspections of our ports, of food and medicines, or the deficit, or 
golden  parachutes or a no-way-out war?
 
Are those topics too politically correct?
 
Good Grief, Charlie Brown!  
Mary Ham, a 2002 college graduate, gets good tutoring about serious (as in  
profitable) journalism from Ms. Malkin.
 
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In a message dated 6/19/2007 7:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] continued:

The  third-generation American and actress is under fire this week 
from fellow  Latinos for comments she made to Para Todos magazine: 

Alba is my last  name and I'm proud of that. But that's it. My 
grandparents were born in  California, the same as my parents, and 
though I may be proud of my last  name, I'm American. Throughout my 
whole life, I've never felt connected to  one particular race or 
heritage, nor did I feel accepted by any. If you  break it down, I'm 
less Latina than Cameron Diaz, whose father is Cuban.  But people 
don't call her Latina because she's blonde… 

My  grandfather was the only Mexican at his college, the only 
Hispanic person  at work and the only one at the all-white country 
club. He tried to forget  his Mexican roots, because he never wanted 
his kids to be made to feel  different in America. He and my 
grandmother didn't speak Spanish to their  children. Now, as a third-
generation American, I feel as if I have finally  cut loose. 

My whole life, when I was growing up, not one race has ever  accepted 
me, ... So I never felt connected or attached to any race  
specifically. I had a very American upbringing, I feel American, and 
I  don't speak Spanish. So, to say that I'm a Latin actress, OK, but 
it's not  fitting; it would be insincere.


She never felt connected to any  race, specifically, but she always 
felt American. That doesn't sounds like  a bad thing, does it? And 
yet, it is, in the eyes of many activists.  

One blog post on the comments remarks, Guess sell-outs come in all  
races and sizes. Another calls it a disturbing hoard of quotes.  
Another claims she hates Mexicans. 

Comments about Alba's  comments include, F**K YOU THEN, JESSICA…VIVA 
LA RAZA!!!, She should  just change her last name to White, then, 
and I thought she could be a  good role model for Latinas, but she 
is a fake, tryin' to be white.  

Alba wasn't trying to make a political statement. Instead, she  
sounds like she was trying to avoid speaking for an entire ethnicity  
and many recent immigrants when she barely speaks Spanish, and  
identifies as an American first. But because she didn't reflexively  
take upon herself her ethnic mantle and collective responsibility,  
she's bashed as a traitor to her race. 

Elsewhere, a phenomenally  successful first-generation immigrant was 
sharing his secret to success in  America, which was much the same as 
the approach Alba's college-educated  grandfather took. When 
addressing the national Association of Hispanic  

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reparations

2007-06-19 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:18:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So far  what  I've seen is the emergence of two languages that do not look  
like they have any plans to become one.  


Once again, I agree.  Makes me somewhat uncomfortable, as do the  burkas one 
sees more and more.  
 
I hope we don't get as nuts about this as the Quebecois and the Anglo  
Quebecers during the 1970s.  I think that's all quieted down now.  Not  sure 
though.
 
I just don't see it as a critical issue as yet, relatively  speaking.  Media 
and bloggers love it, but are too emotional and anecdotal  to achieve any 
solutions.
 
Someone's always moving the cheese.
 
I'd love to see some politicians lead the way in finding things we can  unite 
around.  A real uniter, so to speak.
 
 
 



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