[AsburyPark] Re: group
Dan, I apologize for my reaction. The ugliness got the best of me, frustration took over, hence my post. I agree about the JSRM issue. It's vital to our community. I just couldn't see the discussion thru the fog of ugliness that was going on here. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Yesterday, somebody wrote that the posters here are ambassadors for the city. I agree with that completely. The last two days corrupt that ideal and hurt our effectiveness. Quite the contrary Jack. And let me first say I meant nothing personal by my post. I never claimed not to have put my hand into the monkey cage, AND I said here that I was surprised by KB's behavior. Now why do I say contrary? Because in the last couple of days we dealt with a very important issue - JSRM. Then on outsider, not only wrongly attempted to preach how we were amiss in our position on the issue, but then made an unprovoked, and totally inappropriate member of this forum and APer. None of us backed down. His regurgitation of scripture did not shake us off from standing with Mario at what was a homophopic tirade. Neither did we loose focus why many of us opposed JSRM. That was the best example that could be shown to any outsider. And BTW, I feel no obligation shave the truth for anyone, inside of AP or out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now
Damn. I'm not even gonna say it. You all know what I would say anyhow. I think more of us need to start contacting Jim Keady and Kimmon about our concerns. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Do what belmar did
1. Go after the landlords for actions of their tenants (which I think is a stretch) - Park a police car (loaded - guns, dogs, vests, lights) in front of known problem areas - day after day, night after night. 2. see belmarrentals411.com - and their map. http://www.belmar.com/rentals/Map.asp 3. Then go back, how many problems are at Housing Authority units? Then face the facts - you have a great new (yes, great and new) effort going up AND you have a West Side (mostly) that is in deep, deep, trouble. So forget what the partners did or didn't do or whose gay or the bullshit fighting amongst council members you know why - cause it's all bullshit. The Police Department needs help. The schools need help. Take some of themoney the school gets and give it the police department. Bring in other towns to assist. Time to take control. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Fatally.
Like I said. It's IRAQ in AP. Time to bring in troops and some bulldozer and rebuild. Take a few hundred million that's getting tossed out over there and pokceted and toss it here and let some stuff get done and let some money get stolen. How muych worse can it be? AS for the cameras, the city should just rent some big seach lights and stick on Springwood, in front of hinges, down bangs and drive around with them on. A start. Otherwise, you'll have channel 2 here doing a story with their cameras on a stalled development and springsteen will be writing a new song. Bring in the tanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] On the positive side
MM is keeping CH and the Paramount busy through the holidays. That's a big plus. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap
- Drive down springwood and around Ave a to the neptune border/ridge etc. I did the other day because I had to. Look at the barrack housng that was constructed many moons ago. Sure, it's housing, but maybe it's time to start knocking down the village and building new subsidized housing. Yea, I'm saying spend more government money and building more of a community instead of the old chicken coop housing. - more green a place for kids to run vs in the street. I don't know if thats the answer or if there will EVER be one, but a bulldozer is a start. HOw are you going to attract business to Springwood if the guy/gal behind the counter doesn't feel safe. You don't want storefronts with solid steel doors or people working behind bullet proof glass just to sell a soda. Massive crackdown, day in day out. Pretend its Iraq. These are real HOMEland security issues. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
Oh yeah, how much money did we spend on horses for weekend use? H I said bullshit. I meant horseshit. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now
yeah, but don't you find it sad that Jim's is the only one as a clickable link online, or even listed at all? Big oversight in my opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think all the emails are first initial last name @cityofasburypark.com (example [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:54:55 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now Their emails? Yeah, wouldn't that be a great idea. The only person who has their email listed on the cityofasburypark. com website is Jim Keady. Of course. And he's also the only guy that makes an effort to communicate with us beyond the council chamber. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ypark.com --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ ... wrote: We need to start contacting all of them, not just those two. Only by putting tremendous pressure on the entire council will anything get resolved. Does anyone know their emails? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Damn. I'm not even gonna say it. You all know what I would say anyhow. I think more of us need to start contacting Jim Keady and Kimmon about our concerns. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: 19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
I'm wondering about something. Last week, shots were fired at 2 kids, 8 bullet casings were found, and this was a minor story in the APP. On Saturday, somebody was shot during a robbery attempt, and this story only made it into the police blotter. Last night, we have a murder, and that story is only under News Update, it's already far enough down the list so you can't see it, and the headline story is about a homeless camp in Pt. Beach. I used to get upset when I read all the story chat postings about crimes in AP. Now, I think we need the bad publicity to get this city to make an aggressive stance about it. Oh yeah, how much money did we spend on horses for weekend use? H Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now
I think all the emails are first initial last name @cityofasburypark.com (example [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:54:55 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now Their emails? Yeah, wouldn't that be a great idea. The only person who has their email listed on the cityofasburypark. com website is Jim Keady. Of course. And he's also the only guy that makes an effort to communicate with us beyond the council chamber. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ypark.com --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ ... wrote: We need to start contacting all of them, not just those two. Only by putting tremendous pressure on the entire council will anything get resolved. Does anyone know their emails? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Damn. I'm not even gonna say it. You all know what I would say anyhow. I think more of us need to start contacting Jim Keady and Kimmon about our concerns. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: 19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What make this shooting so bad is that there has been alot of police presence including the county and state recently---the county is riding four in a car. Werner I still say we have little ones still in our grasps. We need to do more to keep their attention I think the best tactic is to make Police Officers more a part of the community. Wllking patrols, cops on the 'beat'. They need to be approchable and get to know everyone who belongs in their patrol area. Especially the kids. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
Right. Where is the mayor? Have you ever seen him give a press conference? I haven't. He was happy to be the host of the Mayor's ball though. How much did that cost the city? Seems to me the best voice in AP, the one that the public hears from the most is Jim Keady. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking exactly the same thing when I opened your post. What we lack, first and foremost, is a vision for improving the situation. Rather than just throughing random tactics at the problem where's the overall vision for solving it? And where is a leader ian the city - ideally the mayor's office - in developing and selling this vision? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru wait_foru@ wrote: With all that is going on involving gangs...how come we have not heard more from the Mayors officeWhether its thru the Press or News12. I don't see the sense of urgency or compassion. Cannot compare Newark to AP, but regardless Booker made it known he was on a mission. I think the leadership needs to be visible and vigilant. So stand-up Mr. Mayor and be accountable..the ball is over with!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'll say. I have nothing against cops on horses. I like it. But the money probably couldn've been spent elsewhere. === == Perhaps my waterpark commemts about - money spent vs value received - have application in other areas of need. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. Where is the mayor? Have you ever seen him give a press conference? I haven't. He was happy to be the host of the Mayor's ball though. How much did that cost the city? Seems to me the best voice in AP, the one that the public hears from the most is Jim Keady. Very very good point. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Ballot Question #3
PRESS RELEASE For Immediate Release: Contact: October 18, 2007 Jeff Tittel, Sierra Club, 609-558-9100 Dave Pringle, NJ Environment Federation, 732-996-4288 Joanna Wolaver, NJ Audubon Society, 609-712-3622 Alison Mitchell, NJ Conservation Foundation, 908-234-1225 Ed Wengryn, NJ Farm Bureau, 609-393-7163 Open Space Advocates Expose Falsehoods about Question #3, Condemn Bogota Mayor Steve Lonegans Radio Ads Trenton , NJ - The passage of Ballot Question #3 is the most important issue facing the voters in this years election. Without Question #3, we will run out of money to preserve open space, farmland and historic properties, build new parks and playgrounds for our children, and voluntarily buy out flood-prone properties. Despite the important of this issue for the future of New Jersey , there are those who will distort, and even lie, about this ballot question. We are all here today to set the record straight on Ballot Question #3 and what it means for New Jersey . The Keep It Green coalition has learned that Bogota , New Jersey , Mayor Steve Lonegan and Americans for Prosperity are campaigning against question #3, the $200 million open space, farmland and historic preservation question on this Novembers ballot. Halloween has come early. Steve Lonegan is trying to trick the voters with deliberate lies and falsehoods, said Jeff Tittel, Director of the New Jersey Sierra Club. The only thing thats scarier than Steve Lonegans lies is New Jersey losing its open space and farmland programs. The advocates released a fact sheet (attached) exposing and debunking the myths and untruths Lonegan has been spreading about question #3 including that it will increase taxes, bring high density housing to New Jersey towns, and force homeowners to lose their property to eminent domain. In fact, a yes vote on #3 will prevent overdevelopment, save our threatened open spaces and farmland, and create playgrounds, green spaces and urban parks for our children. It in no way will authorize the use of eminent domain by the state taxes on the contrary, the state legislature has specifically prohibited use of funds that will be made available from the approval of question # 3 for eminent domain by the state. The GSPT has been recognized as not only the largest land preservation program in the nation but also the most successful, said Assemblyman John F. McKeon, a primary bill sponsor. Supporting Ballot question #3 will ensure that New Jersey s land preservation efforts will continue uninterrupted. The Blue Acres component allows willing sellers to voluntarily sell their properties for permanent preservation while avoiding future insurance costs and economic hardships. Anyone claiming the contrary is irresponsible and typical of the extreme right wing antics. Lonegans ads and statements are uninformed at best and knowingly false at worst, said David Pringle of the NJ Environmental Federation. While that might work in a state less educated, less environmental conscious, and filled with more ideological zealots than New Jersey, someone positioning himself to run for Governor should know better, but perhaps his thoughts are elsewhere. To say a yes vote on question #3 is a vote for eminent domain is nothing more than a cheap scare tactic. The history of the state preservation programs demonstrates that the state as the buyer is providing fair value to willing sellers. The passage of public question #3 will ensure that those market-based and fair transactions can continue, said Ed Wengryn of New Jersey Farm Bureau. We've already seen the tremendous benefits these preservation programs bring to New Jersey 's environment and its people, including tax stabilization. So we don't need to worry about what will happen if we pass Question # 3 - we need to worry about what will happen if we don't, said Alison Mitchell of New Jersey Conservation Foundation. New Jersey loses over 40 acres each day to development making our remaining open spaces a precious asset. We must protect and preserve our remaining natural and historic resources to insure future generations can enjoy a high quality of life. I am confident that voters will overwhelmingly approve this question, just as they have approved similar measures dating back to 1961, said State Senator Leonard Lance. Ballot question #3 is critical to providing much needed funding to the Garden State Preservation Trust, which helps to preserve our farms, open space, and historic landmarks, said Assemblyman Douglas H. Fisher. I ask the voters of New Jersey to vote yes on Ballot questions #3 to keep this highly successful programs running to ensure our land and history are permanently preserved. A yes vote on Ballot Question 3 is a clear no-brainer, said Doug O'Malley, Environment New Jersey 's Field
[AsburyPark] Re: Kumbaya
Mario, Occasionally this song was either sung during the offertory or communion processional, as incidental music. Had no idea it may be of West African origin. Very interesting, because I thought it was a campfire song! Ignorance is bliss! Okay, altogether now, let's join hands and make a circle! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should all form a circle around the campfire? __ (fill in the blank, and sing a few refrains of Kumbaya. My suggestions for the blank: the Metropolitan, or the fountain in Hinge's Library Square Park. You're crazy! Words: _http://www.easyweigh.com/kumbaya.htm_ (http://www.easyweigh.com/kumbaya.htm) History from the Straight Dope (Come by here): _http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980911a.html_ (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980911a.html) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: group
Mario, When you do, I hope to be involved. I'd say more, but the less said the better! Anyway, hope you all have a good weekend, in spite of the weather! Peace! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/18/2007 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may still go ahead with creating a more efficient city message board as i've previously discussed, with it's own domain name. The Atlantic City example you provided was a great model. Cordiali saluti, Mario Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The value of forums
From Local Cities, Global Problems: Jane Jacobs in an Age of Global Change But the influence of communication technology is beginning to have an impact at the neighborhood scale as well. Jacobs wrote that word does not move around where public characters and sidewalk life are lacking. Now it does. There are the people paused at the top of the subway stairs, occupying two spaces at once, one physical, one virtual. And in neighborhoods around the countrythis one in particularcommunity online message boards and blogs are thriving, entirely in parallel with news passed stoop to stoop. The in parallel part is crucial. Outside.In, a website designed to gather and organize neighborhood news, published a list of America's Top 10 Bloggiest Neighborhoods. What was striking (but perhaps not surprising) is that all were living examples of the kind of places Jacobs championed: Clinton Hill in Brooklyn, Portrero Hill in San Francisco, Shaw in Washington. If the physical form of a neighborhood is conducive to community, so is its virtual form. But the other striking thing about the list was that all the neighborhoods were in a state of changegentrifying or recently gentrified. It's certainly demographic: a neat and obvious alignment of hipster and blogger. But it also means that the newly emerging character of these places is being forged, at least in part, online. These are incontrovertibly real-world neighborhoods, but their community is as virtual as it is physical. With each year, we get better at navigating between the two. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: group
In a message dated 10/19/2007 8:10:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, When you do, I hope to be involved Sharon, It's all Hinge's idea, and research, for a better Asbury Park forum. I was just re-affirming my yes vote, hoping everyone would look again at his example of a group about Atlantic City. _How do we strike a balance between talking about AP and the world at_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30463) We have to figure out a way to give equal time to AP topics and world topics. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe we can think of one together. Honestly, I... _Re: How do we strike a balance between talking about AP and the worl_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30465) Topics that involve Bruce Springsteen deal with Asbury Park on a certain level IMO since he has played such a major role and continues to play a role in the... (ymsgr:sendIM?lightgrw) (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/post?postID=yd62sEx1FihrLvBUy_SqqOEiexLaxMay2uVKvkefImDZI1x2F3JZ6sSlgZ-OJMYlCLUGFeiLHJ4M Zg) (http://message.360.yahoo.com/invites/compose.html?grp=AsburyParki=Kr6URmyhYgs51toS8m7Ogjs-r=gFPW4Zigah7sy.Ivmw--sig=CMrb1CrqdrbIKdmLZKzYd2pJzM4-.d one=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30463) _Re: How do we strike a balance between talking about AP and the worl_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30469) I agree, and the reason i'm asking is that better designed group message boards contain a series of categories rather then one big group, such as this one. ... (ymsgr:sendIM?hinge98) (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/post?postID=lRXiUBU7LJvqILNoGPYn7bj83k3vYqwfIp5n2ZcBNi_NiLuQAjcfeXDjAVm4YrxYZdtTn6TWKoCgf UDh) (http://message.360.yahoo.com/invites/compose.html?grp=AsburyParki=Kr6URmyhYgs51toS8m7Ogjs-r=fQpnHkSkahcmhJOksig=EBpqMb0gPJzWZ7Ux95DORrNfeYI-.done =http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30463) _Re: How do we strike a balance between talking about AP and the worl_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30474) Here's an example of what i'm talking about. It's an EZ board discussion group about Atlantic City; http://p069.Here's an exHere's an example of what i'm talking about. I (http://message.360.yahoo.com/invites/compose.html?grp=AsburyParki=Kr6URmyhYgs51toS8m7Ogjs-r=fQpnHkSkahcmhJOksig=EBpqMb0gPJzWZ7Ux95DORrNfeYI-.done=http ://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30463) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Sunday 5 am Go to Beach - 20-25 meteors per hour
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[AsburyPark] Re: groupies
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that you had to be educated to be a reverend?. If that's the case, why cant Rev. close up Brown spell? On the spelling I will take a page out of justified right's page. Oh and dear heart, I would improve your grammer, before pointing out my spelling errors. Kb Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
What make this shooting so bad is that there has been alot of police presence including the county and state recently---the county is riding four in a car. Werner I still say we have little ones still in our grasps. We need to do more to keep their attention - Original Message From: wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:54:42 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press With all that is going on involving gangs...how come we have not heard more from the Mayors officeWhether its thru the Press or News12. I don't see the sense of urgency or compassion. Cannot compare Newark to AP, but regardless Booker made it known he was on a mission. I think the leadership needs to be visible and vigilant. So stand-up Mr. Mayor and be accountable. .the ball is over with !! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'll say. I have nothing against cops on horses. I like it. But the money probably couldn've been spent elsewhere. = = = = = = === Perhaps my waterpark commemts about - money spent vs value received - have application in other areas of need. Werner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
With all that is going on involving gangs...how come we have not heard more from the Mayors officeWhether its thru the Press or News12. I don't see the sense of urgency or compassion. Cannot compare Newark to AP, but regardless Booker made it known he was on a mission. I think the leadership needs to be visible and vigilant. So stand-up Mr. Mayor and be accountable..the ball is over with!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'll say. I have nothing against cops on horses. I like it. But the money probably couldn've been spent elsewhere. = Perhaps my waterpark commemts about - money spent vs value received - have application in other areas of need. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
--- nothing against horses either. In fact I love horses. I just think you need more police on the streets - walking, talking and listening - all day and all night. And cameras. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll say. I have nothing against cops on horses. I like it. But the money probably couldn've been spent elsewhere. = Perhaps my waterpark commemts about - money spent vs value received - have application in other areas of need. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Terence Reidy email address
For those of you who want to send a message about recent events in our city; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Do what belmar did
The police dept. does need help. I'm going to redescribe the results of my phone call the other night when I called about the kids smoking pot in the park; 1) Me - I call the PD and make the report 2) Me - I call a few minutes later to find out what happened. The PD said they found nothing and let them go. I expressed concern that one of them looked me directly in the eye. Dispatcher pretty much blows it off and says I have nothing to worry about, we know who these three are. They don't ask me for any personal information. Is that how a PD is supposed to operate? I don't think so. 3) Next day, on a bike ride. Same three kids in CH smoking pot. One of them stares me down on the north side of CH Does anybody else see a problem with this. Now, when you smoke pot, you reek. I called the PD about a minute after encountering the kids. They had to reek. Did the PD even make a complete search of the 3 kids. I sincerely doubt it, because they were gone from the scene pretty quickly. Conclusion - The kids have no fear of getting busted, and the PD let them go. And I have to live with the knowledge that the kids know who I am, but the PD doesn't even know my name. That sounds like a major problem to me. I'm fed up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Go after the landlords for actions of their tenants (which I think is a stretch) - Park a police car (loaded - guns, dogs, vests, lights) in front of known problem areas - day after day, night after night. 2. see belmarrentals411.com - and their map. http://www.belmar.com/rentals/Map.asp 3. Then go back, how many problems are at Housing Authority units? Then face the facts - you have a great new (yes, great and new) effort going up AND you have a West Side (mostly) that is in deep, deep, trouble. So forget what the partners did or didn't do or whose gay or the bullshit fighting amongst council members you know why - cause it's all bullshit. The Police Department needs help. The schools need help. Take some of themoney the school gets and give it the police department. Bring in other towns to assist. Time to take control. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now
Their emails? Yeah, wouldn't that be a great idea. The only person who has their email listed on the cityofasburypark.com website is Jim Keady. Of course. And he's also the only guy that makes an effort to communicate with us beyond the council chamber. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to start contacting all of them, not just those two. Only by putting tremendous pressure on the entire council will anything get resolved. Does anyone know their emails? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Damn. I'm not even gonna say it. You all know what I would say anyhow. I think more of us need to start contacting Jim Keady and Kimmon about our concerns. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: 19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Last Night's BOE meeting
Dear Group Members, This is a report on the Asbury Park School Board meeting of Thursday, October 18. As only one member of the BOE, I am obliged to say that I do not speak for the board. As meetings go, this one was relatively short (7 to 9:10 PM) and almost rancor-free! The public was given the opportunity to speak on agenda items, and no member of the public came forward at that time. The administrators responsible for curriculum gave us a 20 minute presentation on the testing results for the district. Overall, the results did show a slight improvement in some grades, a substantial increase in others, and flat or even a small decrease in isolated cases. There was enough of an improvement, believe it or not, for the state to say that we have met A.Y.P, that is adequate yearly progress for the first time in many years. Of course, what is adequate progress for the state is just rising from the depths that we had plumbed. But it is progress nevertheless, and it must be built upon. Donna Muzzicato, the new director of curriculum, gave us a presentation on what each school in the district is doing to correct past deficiencies and to improve instruction. (In my view, improving instruction and increasing test scores are not necessarily synonymous, and we are off to the best year in a long time in all of our schools, especially the Intermediate School and the High School. But we have a long, long way to go.) Mrs. Sanders and I did get into a bit of a tussle in reference to the new Math Program for grades 3, 4, and 5. She regretted our disposal of Communicator Math and I cheered the fact that it was gone and replaced with a more traditional program, namely McGraw-Hill. Communicator Math is now used fully in only one other district in New Jersey, namely Jersey City, the home of the originator of the program, a favorite with the State. When the time came for the public to speak on non-agenda items, four members of the public came forward. One said that not all teachers had received materials and books yet. Mr. Parham, the Acting Superintendent, said that he personally would see to it that the situation was remedied the following day. The other comments pertained to the Little League, which our closed session was to be about, and others asked us to set a date for a community forum on the QSAC report and to improve communication with the public via a newsletter. Our closed session lasted about 20 minutes and when we returned, voted to give the Little League the green light to go ahead with their second phase, pending resolution of typical Asbury Park deed restrictions and submission of a site plan that has already been prepared. Danny McKee and the rest of the parents and friends (and the kids, of course) of the newly revived Asbury Park Little League should be commended for working so hard and jumping though all the bureaucratic hoops presented to them. Their determination in this often-frustrating place is very admirable. When it came time for comments from the Board, I expressed my dismay at the firing of the woman who had done so much to put the SPOT program (our school based youth services program at the high school) in such good shape last year. She was summarily fired by the outside agency that the State of New Jersey forced us to outsource the program to. They had said our kids would lose those services at the High School unless we handed the program, which was finally going very well, over to an outside agency to run inside the high school. Some board members, including myself, voted to do so when that agency said they would retain the woman who had run it so well. With no warning at all, she was fired this month. I would hate to think that this was a bait and switch tactic to get approval, fire the director, and then replace her almost immediately. We do not treat our own employees in this manner, and we expected, perhaps naively, that no one running a school program for our kids in our high school would treat their employees so abruptly and without any due process whatsoever. Some of the BOE members asked our administrators to look into the situation and report back to us. Frank D'Alessandro Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Its reported now
19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: group
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, I apologize for my reaction. The ugliness got the best of me, frustration took over, hence my post. I agree about the JSRM issue. It's vital to our community. I just couldn't see the discussion thru the fog of ugliness that was going on here. Jack No apologies needed Jack. I did not take it personal. Keep the faith. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Springsteen Interview
My Rolling Stone just came in the mail. Great interview with Bruce. Interview takes place in CH during the recent rehearsals. Talking about his entire career and moving different places, the interviewer asks why he moved back to NJ. In part, Bruce says Then we came back, and I re-found the freedom in some of my early narrative, and that includes here in this building and this town and in my band. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap
Yikes. Sorry to hear that. I'm surprised this hasn't made it onto the APP website. It makes me wonder about how many other crimes that we aren't hearing about. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was right behind my girlfriend's house she heard the shots/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap I was wondering what all the sirens were for. I wonder why this hasn't made it to any of the news outlets yet. How do you know there was another shooting? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap villages _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap
It was right behind my girlfriend's house she heard the shots/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap I was wondering what all the sirens were for. I wonder why this hasn't made it to any of the news outlets yet. How do you know there was another shooting? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap villages _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap
I was wondering what all the sirens were for. I wonder why this hasn't made it to any of the news outlets yet. How do you know there was another shooting? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap villages __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: group
Thanks Sharon! I have a feeling that proper lighting would solve the problem in Library Square Park in a hurry. It's not so much that it's overrun with drug users, but there is definitely something bad going on there on almost a nightly basis now. The main reason I'm aware of it is because I walk my dog there virtually every morning, and every morning the fountain area has new empty drug bags and new empty liquor bottles, and now people are using the damaged fountain as a garbage dump. I hate it, and I'm sick of it. The park is for everybody. But nobody wants to walk around in a mess, and children should not be exposed to what goes on there. I can imagine a little kid picking up one of those drug bags and wondering what's this? The problem isn't just partial to the fountain area, it's also in the surrounding shubbery and trees. I've seen used condoms, condom wrappers, human excrement. I've seen people peeing there after dark too. And the litter problem just makes me want to cry. I will never be able to understand the mentality of people who think the world is their garbage can. Another thing I've been noticing increasingly is that people seem to think that the fountain is their ashtray as well. It disgusts me. For contrast, I like to walk my dog in the park in Ocean Grove on the other side of the footbridge. There's a very similar fountain there that has been transformed into a beautiful garden display. It's well lit at night, and that park is always much cleaner. One thing that bothers me is that the PD either knows that the park is dark at night and is dragging their feet about it, or they are unaware of the problem, which would shock me because I know people call in when they spot trouble. There seems to be some kind of disconnect in our city about where the PD is patrolling at night. I've mentioned this before concerning The Met Hotel porch. If you were to take a look there right now, you'd see lot's of empty beer cases, beer cans, cloths etc. Obviously somebody has been partying there at night. I've also been in touch with the Asbury Park Historical Society, and they are trying to get somebody from JCPL to fix the lights, and somehow that's taking a long time as well. And let's not forget, the APHS got donations to fix the fountain, install sprinkers etc. Wouldn't it be a good idea for the city to have done something to protect that investment of peoples donation money? Unfortunately, nothing was done, the fountain is a mess, and the vandalism continues, as recently as last week. I also think that the destruction of the 3 globes on the top of the fountain may have been done by kids who were told to do so by local drug dealers. It's to the drug dealers benefit to have the park dark at night. And it light of recent arrests that showed that west side heroin dealers were using young children to sell drugs, it's pretty obvious that this is entirely possible. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I wish you'd run for office! We could use someone with your thoughtful awareness. You have great ideas and solutions to simple problems, but by the time this city gets to them, they become costly. You were the first poster to suggest surveillance. As a libertarian, I wasn't so much for it, until you suggested where! I believe certain common areas should ALWAYS be surveilled, such as the park, Cookman Ave., certain streets and corners, where crime often occurs, such as the Sheffield Grocery and Ridge and Bangs Ave. It's a sad way to live, but if the park is overun with drug users, the authorities should set 'em up! Where's the UEZ money? This is a quality of life issue where residents, should feel safe and are not! Even the lobby of City Hall, where a woman went up to the closed offices and lay down on a couch and went to sleep. Remember that? Stay with us; we need you! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Thanks Sharon and Mario. I'm going to find a way to focus on the things about AP that I am most passionate about, such as making the park a safer, cleaner place, and continuing to push the issue of surveillence cameras. I really care about public perception (from outsiders) about this city. I may still go ahead with creating a more efficient city message board as i've previously discussed, with it's own domain name. Obviously, there are some people here which will have absolutely no interest in checking it out because they think it will be restrictive. I'd just like it to be a cordial place. A good example is the political group I created. There has been no need for moderation there at all, and there's been some great, heated discussions. The difference between that group and this one is that people make an effort to keep it a functional place to hold discussions without making ugly, personal attacks. Yesterday, somebody wrote that
[AsburyPark] Re: group
YES! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/18/2007 7:41:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Couldn't help chuckling at the names of these NEW groups! I like SUS, over the other, which makes me, HOWL! I giggle at the least little thing! Restore Asbury Radio! RAR! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its reported now
This is exactly what I've been talking about concerning the surveillence system. We now have another dead young man in our city. The surveillence system has been in discussion for a few months now. In Newark, it took the execution of three students for them to wake up. Wake up AP. Until you do, all the redevelopment in the world won't attract new people to our city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19-year-old Asbury Park man gunned down in city Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/19/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK -- A 19-year-old city man was fatally shot Thursday night in Asbury Park Village. Around 10:25 p.m., city police went to the area after receiving a report of shots fired and a man who was down,'' according to a news release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. When they arrived, they found Justin Johnson, 19, lying on the ground with an apparent gunshot wound, the news release said. He was taken to Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune where he was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. City police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office are investigating the homicide. Anyone with information is asked to call Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office Detective Delisa Brazile at 1-800-533-7443 or City Detective Brian Townsend at (732) 502-5779. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap
She called me around 10:40 to say she just heard gunshots someone screaming and then the sirens. Another friend confirmed it this morning. It's getting really ridiculous something truly has to be done. The other problem is that it's not just happening in AP. Gang violence is happening all over. We the older generation are afraid to stand up to it. We will make our comment to others and via emails but no one is willing to stand up and fight as it may put themselves or their families in harms way (for which I can't blame anyone for not doing) but we will soon have to stand up to these idiots who have no value for life or else we will have to go into hiding until our knight in shining armor rescues us. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:46:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap Yikes. Sorry to hear that. I'm surprised this hasn't made it onto the APP website. It makes me wonder about how many other crimes that we aren't hearing about. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: It was right behind my girlfriend's house she heard the shots/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap I was wondering what all the sirens were for. I wonder why this hasn't made it to any of the news outlets yet. How do you know there was another shooting? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap villages _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] another shooting in ap
There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap villages __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: groupies
I thought that you had to be educated to be a reverend?. If that's the case, why cant Rev. close up Brown spell? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Open Space Bill Rigged
TRENTON — The coalition pushing voters to approve the state borrowing $200 million to preserve land in the state said yesterday that recent ads railing against the ballot question were deliberate lies and vicious, false attacks. The Keep it Green Campaign, made up of 90 pro-preservation organizations, looked to debunk claims made by Bogota Mayor Steve Lonegan in recent ads and columns saying the program would take property from homeowners unwillingly, replace single-family home construction with high density housing and raise taxes. While the funding would have the state add more debt, Jeff Tittel, director of the state chapter of the Sierra Club, said local towns looking to buy land t o preserve rely on state money for reimbursement. Without the state match, local property taxes would have to go up higher to buy those pieces of open space those towns want to buy, said Tittel. After learning of the coalition's statements, Lonegan responded, To say that it won't raise taxes is an insult to the taxpayers of the state. The state's at a breaking point, we can't afford any of this nonsense anymore, said Lonegan, who lost a bid for the Republican nomination for governor in 2005 and now heads the state chapter of Americans for Prosperity. . . . When it comes to land use, we have to let the free market decide and not the government, not the planners of Trenton. If approved, the measure provides stopgap funding for one year of purchases, state fiscal year 2009, which begins next July. It would provide $109 million for open space, $73 million for farmland preservation, $12 million to buy flood-prone areas and $6 million for historic site preservation. The state, which the group says loses 40 acres per day to development, has about $170 million left to last until then. The Legislature is expected to look for a longer source of funding in the upcoming lame-duck session. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] some of your emails are going directly in to my spam folder
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[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
I was thinking exactly the same thing when I opened your post. What we lack, first and foremost, is a vision for improving the situation. Rather than just throughing random tactics at the problem where's the overall vision for solving it? And where is a leader ian the city - ideally the mayor's office - in developing and selling this vision? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all that is going on involving gangs...how come we have not heard more from the Mayors officeWhether its thru the Press or News12. I don't see the sense of urgency or compassion. Cannot compare Newark to AP, but regardless Booker made it known he was on a mission. I think the leadership needs to be visible and vigilant. So stand-up Mr. Mayor and be accountable..the ball is over with!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'll say. I have nothing against cops on horses. I like it. But the money probably couldn've been spent elsewhere. = Perhaps my waterpark commemts about - money spent vs value received - have application in other areas of need. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
