[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're on the topic of bathrooms and what not. Doesn't the boardwalk now have one planned at the 2nd ave beach club complex? I thought towards the end of the meetings, MM decides to go with the idea on having a public bathroom there. === No, it is not MM that decides, its the Board. The testimony was that the bathrooms would be in the shipping containers - UNLESS the State prohibited it on the green acres space. As was predictable there is no restriction on restrooms on green acres space. As I testified at the hearing it is up to the local authority, Planning Board/Council to set policy. Once again they failed. They were pressured to beleive that if the State said OK that they should go along with that. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The City's Website - makin' me smile.
Our posts are definately being read by the powers that be, the spelling of Mattison is correct today on the City's website. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed this morning on the City's website that Lori Michaels is performing on Saturday at MADISON Park. Personally, I'll go to MATTISON Park, but then again, I am from out of town. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....
I remember that there was a sign right when you walk into the conventon center, one of those a-frame things that sit on the ground. My experience was not good related to bathrooms, I went in one of those portable toilets on the boardwalk before finding the other one. Very tacky and low class to treat visitors that way. Every shop I stopped in said sorry no toilets, look down there I would have thought proper restrooms would be the first thing taken care of. And the idea of rentable lockers is great. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a good idea to have bathrooms in the Casino, and i suspect that will happen. Just like their are public bathrooms on the souther side of CH open to the public now. Right before the beach bar. I wonder if visitors wondering around even know their there yet? They should have a sign somewhere inside CH pointing to them. There might be profit in the ideas you speak of, but i'm pretty sure their would be more in other rental complexes. Those types of locker rooms also promote a different atmosphere for the board walk. An atmosphere i'm not so sure MM wants. ? Unless the pass picks up on the boardwalk, i don't think it will ever been that busy. Even on the hottest summer nights. There still seems to be nothing to do People who like to walk near the beach will walk, but people who came to walk the boardwalk for a good summer night may leave shortly once they find out theres nothing there... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
Hi Denise---Could you get in touch with me today so we could talk about what is still needed? You can email me at the email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:04:54 -0700Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! Drop off location? - Original Message From: denise [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:43:34 PMSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! These are consider personal items and are not a part of the regular supplies for the children---I do agree our children should have access to computers, books, and whatever else is necessary ---but I do remember when I attended school umpteen years ago this was not supplied. We got sneakers from shoprite and 2 guys was the back to school store although you did not want your friends seeing you shop there. But since the children have no say so over what is purchased with state money, we are trying to help them not sweat the small stuff!!! - Original Message From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] comTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.comSent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:23:42 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: Could you imagine going back to school on the first day ---no bookbag,pencil, pen, notebook. Spanky did you do your homework. No Mrs. Crabtree I didn't have a pencil (dating myself) This is a great project - HOWEVER, I thought that the $85millon in state aid/Abbott $ buys these materials. _ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008
[AsburyPark] Greetings from Long Branch: Drug Busts a Giant Phallus
Greeting from Long Branch in today's online AP Press: Amusing juxtaposition of drug busts story featuring more than a dozen Long Branch residents with the Italian Ice Lighthouse as giant phallic symbol: The city Planning Board will continue in September to review the application to relocate and expand Strollo's Lighthouse Italian Ice Stand in an issue that has, at times, taken on soap opera-ish proportions. The issue has generated waves of controversy, beginning when Planning Board Vice President Edward Thomas in March said to Francis McGovern, a lawyer who represents project opponents from Presidential Beach Towers, to Keep your pedophilia to yourself and stick to the facts when McGovern asked a witness if he thought the then-proposed 40-foot lighthouse that was part of the application amounted to a giant phallic symbol. _42 indicted in massive drug sweep | APP.com | Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS01/807170497/-1/source=nlett er-news) _Long Branch planners to hear Italian ice stand's application | APP.com | Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI D=/20080717/NEWS01/807170478/-1/source=nletter-news) Thankfully This weeks Greetings from Asbury Park is limited to positive news. (If only Only in Asbury Park!' Huge! Very Large! and Cool! exclamations could be given a rest for a few weeks. ) IMHO **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
Me, too, please. I'd like to help. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message From: Debbie DeLisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asburypark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:45:24 AM Subject: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! Hi Denise---Could you get in touch with me today so we could talk about what is still needed? You can email me at the email debbiedelisa@ hotmail.com Thanks! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:04:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! Drop off location? - Original Message From: denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:43:34 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! These are consider personal items and are not a part of the regular supplies for the children---I do agree our children should have access to computers, books, and whatever else is necessary ---but I do remember when I attended school umpteen years ago this was not supplied. We got sneakers from shoprite and 2 guys was the back to school store although you did not want your friends seeing you shop there. But since the children have no say so over what is purchased with state money, we are trying to help them not sweat the small stuff!!! - Original Message From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:23:42 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups..com, denise denisemchd@ ... wrote: Could you imagine going back to school on the first day ---no bookbag,pencil, pen, notebook. Spanky did you do your homework. No Mrs. Crabtree I didn't have a pencil (dating myself) This is a great project - HOWEVER, I thought that the $85millon in state aid/Abbott $ buys these materials. With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go.
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
I don't want to tick anybody off with this post, because traffic at our boardwalk has been great. But, I honestly don't understand why the 1st Ave. pavilion was built up to it's current height instead of one of the other pavilions. We've mentioned the blocking of the Empress views, but what about the concept that most of that pavilion isn't even visible from inland? Wouldn't it have made more sense to build up a pavilion that isn't obscured? I think it really sucks that the Empress has to suffer since they've been a successful business for so long. It's the only oceanfront hotel we have. Oceanfront rooms get a premium price. Somebody else suggested that maybe the Empress should add on a few floors. At who's expense? Certainly not theirs. Their view has been blocked by MM. Also, isn't it a waste to have the MM offices in a pavilion? It's vanity for them, but it's also a waste of prime boardwalk space. That pavilion would be a great place to add in lockers and showers, which would help keep people at our beach longer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went into the lobby to wait for Glenn and it is top notch! The staff is friendly and everything is spartan! Glenn and I observed the 1st Av. Pavilion. I must say those AC's up on the roof are UGLY! So what they fixed the gas line and oops! There goes the Seniors, ANYWAY! They should have SAID that, but were too punk-a$$, to tell the truth! Just go across town, 2 miles and SEE Neptune's on Corlies Ave. and Neptune Blvd. I shake my head and want to cry, because I can't use Neptune's facility. Aren't WE as good as Neptune? I give up! Maybe Jim Bruno can hook us up with that, too! He gives a great parade; I know he and John can make it real for us old folks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 7/14/2008 6:29:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Shep rarely gets enough credit for that 1999 leap of faith. IMO I would of lept as well- but no one would hand me about $500k i needed to leap and then another $2m. It kind of went like this: Are you f...ing crazy? four words. No one believes that went for $600k. Except for me and Mario. The place was a total mess. Be happy it's still standing AND bringing in the crowd that started the revitalization - even if they moved on and cashed out or stayed to play. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
Hi, I thought I included your post? You were commenting on the need for mixed uses. I was agreeing with that, but then saying that it doesnt look like much has been done given the years that have gone by. I can see why there is a lot of criticism of how its been handled. I'm still thinking of the big promo with Springsteen concerts and all. The places to stay are out of my price range, as are the 'nicer' clubs and shops. The key to any good revitalization of a down and out area is a mix thats affordable. I dont see it and there is really not much entertainment wise in reality. Funny that you dont think the boardwalk looks 'cheap', perhaps you dont know what a place like the bandstand building is supposed to look like? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: I'll second that, it looked to me what Ive heard about in the media did not get done. I thought Asbury was rebuilt over the last years. Looks like a long wasy to go. - first off another great weekend in AP. I am not quite sure to what you are agreeing to in my previous post? The first time I visited AP was about 14 months ago and I think the city has made significant progress since my first visit. as far as the boardwalk looking cheapI am also in disagreement, of course this is very subjective. (keep in mind that it is not finished yet). If you look at where we could or should be now based on expectaions from 2001 you could drive yourself crazyuse 1/08 or even today as your frame of reference and move forward from herefuture looks good in my opinion, why dwell on the past and be negative? i think the bottom line is that a safe, clean and interesting boardwalk, beach and city with lots of great businesses, people, music and entertainment is going to be the deciding factor on the success of the city not whether or not there is 1 or 3 colors on a building. Just my opinion. John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Food For Thought
This is a copy of an email I sent to selected Members. I was asked to post it to the group, so here it is: Dear Friends of Asbury Park: Some of us live here and some don't, but it's okay, because my list consist of those who love this place, have a concept of what life SHOULD be like here; not just for some but for all of us, please read the content below and see if you recognize, who READ our groups gripes, kudos and what ifs! Glenn, it should be obvious to you, in a conversation we had on July 4th, when we pointed to the roof of the Berkeley Carteret, noting that the Beach Cam, was NOT working, had not been working and didn't know when it would be back up and running. The AC Units atop the 1st Avenue Pavilion and what it doesn't do for Hotel Guests, across the street. Me realizing that that Pavilion was where our Seniors USED to meet, were booted out for a cut gas line and why work men are feverishly finishing this site, but the band shell is obviously NOT there and if it is, I can't see it! Would you go and sit up there with all that noise and the heat emanating from those units? How Asbury Radio was cut off and the minorities that run the station are fearful of being cut off permanently, if they allow her back on the air? (My guess). How you can be jailed for being outspoken, using your property as the reason, when we ALL know it's because if you get rid of the problem, you can seize the property? I do perceive Werner's problems as a potential land grab! (My opinion again). That when one of the Real Estate and City Planning Posters, write about what their concepts of Asbury COULD be, without compromising the Historical landscape, would still designate Asbury Park as a destination instead of a bedroom community, for new residents, who then question why we don't have this, or that service. That the people who have had to suffer through benign neglect, since the riot of 1970, still haven't had their needs met and the West Siders, should ultimately be consulted since it is THEIR community, no matter that those on the City Council, have positioned themselves as overseers and were the problem in the first place! I don't see anything happening for their good, (my humble opinion), that there for the grace of God, go I! Whatever, I'm just venting as usual. So yes, someone is reading the group, but it's okay, because every time one of us bitches and moans, they act on it, like the Park, but ignore the overall picture. Just some food for thought. Be well and have a great summer! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody else suggested that maybe the Empress should add on a few floors. At who's expense? Certainly not theirs. Their view has been blocked by MM. The Empress would jump at the chance to add floors at its own expense. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
That still doesn't make obscuring their view right. If you had a business that benefits from an ocean view, and somebody else came along and blocked that view, wouldn't you be upset first and try to do something about it? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Somebody else suggested that maybe the Empress should add on a few floors. At who's expense? Certainly not theirs. Their view has been blocked by MM. The Empress would jump at the chance to add floors at its own expense. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That still doesn't make obscuring their view right. If you had a business that benefits from an ocean view, and somebody else came along and blocked that view, wouldn't you be upset first and try to do something about it? Views are not protected unless there is an easement prohibiting the parcel from being developed above a certain height. For instance, I have lost all of the side windows in my offices because a new building is being developed next door. The question is whether MM acted within its rights. If it didn't then that is a separate issue. It is technically irrelevant that the Empress lost its views if MM acted legally. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
Well, if it comes down to legal vs. principle and MM is acting within it's rights, then the Empress loses. But in principle, the Empress has been a viable and successful business contributing to AP long before MM came along. This if from the Empress's website; Across the street from the Atlantic Ocean and adjacent to historic Ocean Grove, our hotel offers breathtaking views of the beach, Wesley Lake, and our oversized pool. Now, they are offering breathtaking views of air conditioners. I guess this is a case of big business winning out over the little guy. Sorry, but I hate that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: That still doesn't make obscuring their view right. If you had a business that benefits from an ocean view, and somebody else came along and blocked that view, wouldn't you be upset first and try to do something about it? Views are not protected unless there is an easement prohibiting the parcel from being developed above a certain height. For instance, I have lost all of the side windows in my offices because a new building is being developed next door. The question is whether MM acted within its rights. If it didn't then that is a separate issue. It is technically irrelevant that the Empress lost its views if MM acted legally. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Views are not protected unless there is an easement prohibiting the parcel from being developed above a certain height. For instance, I have lost all of the side windows in my offices because a new building is being developed next door. The question is whether MM acted within its rights. If it didn't then that is a separate issue. It is technically irrelevant that the Empress lost its views if MM acted legally. == Does the design of the building meet the specifications and intent of the Redevelopment PLAN. No, it does not. In fact the application submitted for consideration did not show the addition of air-handling equipment on the roof. It was intentionally omitted (MM's testimony), they didn't think it mattered. The proposal was approved based upon an incomplete disclosure (falsification?) of what the end product would look like and its impact on surrounding properties. Comment from the Planning Board to MM was - 'what you built is not what we approved'. Its a shame that things are so dysfunctional, The 3rd and 5th Vve Pavilions also have intrusive equipment added, they also violate the plan. But there is no one across the street to complain about it. Seems that taxpayers concerns from ON the street are brushed aside. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
See, this is what I don't get. On the one hand, all of us residents and fans of AP are excited that things look better and that people are coming to check it out. But, short cuts are being made. Plans aren't being adhered to. Take the bandshell for instance...it now has a huge AC unit right next to the stage, and at the back of the seating area there are heating or AC units. That's just plain wrong. But it keeps happening. Is MM going to claim that these things are just temporary and will be addressed later? If that's the case, how long does the boardwalk need to be a work in progress? Now we have people cheerleading for MM and making excuses for things that they are doing wrong, just because it's better then it's been in years. MM mostly does right in my opinion, but we should be so intoxicated by the right that we don't have the will to point out injustices and what's wrong. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Views are not protected unless there is an easement prohibiting the parcel from being developed above a certain height. For instance, I have lost all of the side windows in my offices because a new building is being developed next door. The question is whether MM acted within its rights. If it didn't then that is a separate issue. It is technically irrelevant that the Empress lost its views if MM acted legally. === === Does the design of the building meet the specifications and intent of the Redevelopment PLAN. No, it does not. In fact the application submitted for consideration did not show the addition of air-handling equipment on the roof. It was intentionally omitted (MM's testimony), they didn't think it mattered. The proposal was approved based upon an incomplete disclosure (falsification?) of what the end product would look like and its impact on surrounding properties. Comment from the Planning Board to MM was - 'what you built is not what we approved'. Its a shame that things are so dysfunctional, The 3rd and 5th Vve Pavilions also have intrusive equipment added, they also violate the plan. But there is no one across the street to complain about it. Seems that taxpayers concerns from ON the street are brushed aside. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
See, this is what I don't get. On the one hand, all of us residents and fans of AP are excited that things look better and that people are coming to check it out. But, short cuts are being made. Plans aren't being adhered to. Take the bandshell for instance...it now has a huge AC unit right next to the stage, and at the back of the seating area there are heating or AC units. That's just plain wrong. But it keeps happening. Is MM going to claim that these things are just temporary and will be addressed later? If that's the case, how long does the boardwalk need to be a work in progress? Now we have people cheerleading for MM and making excuses for things that they are doing wrong, just because it's better then it's been in years. MM mostly does right in my opinion, but we shouldn't be so intoxicated by the right that we don't have the will to point out injustices and what's wrong. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Views are not protected unless there is an easement prohibiting the parcel from being developed above a certain height. For instance, I have lost all of the side windows in my offices because a new building is being developed next door. The question is whether MM acted within its rights. If it didn't then that is a separate issue. It is technically irrelevant that the Empress lost its views if MM acted legally. === === Does the design of the building meet the specifications and intent of the Redevelopment PLAN. No, it does not. In fact the application submitted for consideration did not show the addition of air-handling equipment on the roof. It was intentionally omitted (MM's testimony), they didn't think it mattered. The proposal was approved based upon an incomplete disclosure (falsification?) of what the end product would look like and its impact on surrounding properties. Comment from the Planning Board to MM was - 'what you built is not what we approved'. Its a shame that things are so dysfunctional, The 3rd and 5th Vve Pavilions also have intrusive equipment added, they also violate the plan. But there is no one across the street to complain about it. Seems that taxpayers concerns from ON the street are brushed aside. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, this is what I don't get. On the one hand, all of us residents and fans of AP are excited that things look better and that people are coming to check it out. But, short cuts are being made. Plans aren't being adhered to. Take the bandshell for instance...it now has a huge AC unit right next to the stage, and at the back of the seating area there are heating or AC units. That's just plain wrong. But it keeps happening. Is MM going to claim that these things are just temporary and will be addressed later? If that's the case, how long does the boardwalk need to be a work in progress? Now we have people cheerleading for MM and making excuses for things that they are doing wrong, just because it's better then it's been in years. MM mostly does right in my opinion, but we shouldn't be so intoxicated by the right that we don't have the will to point out injustices and what's wrong. === Jack, right on the money, echoing what I have been saying for years. The age of desperation has not ever really left Asbury Park and these are the results we get. The submission/approval/follow-up process continues to be dysfunctional. The 'developers', Asbury Partners and now MM, intimidate the City which has no will to say no, follow its own plans and act in the interests of the public. As it stands, the approval for 1st Ave is permanent, the 3rd Ave is temporary, with a request pending to make it permanent, and the 5th is permanent. (seems that details such as railings are currently temporary) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: the principals of the Plan are regularly violated. Don't you mean supplanted? ;) === Ah, You must have been at the Council meeting of 2 weeks ago or listened to Maureen's recording :-) DEF: (replace): dethrone, oust, replace, supersede, take over from Don Samett's explaination of why the 5th Ave Pav looks like it does. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
I listened to the audio that was posted on line and its very enlightening, a great service, thanks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: the principals of the Plan are regularly violated. Don't you mean supplanted? ;) === Ah, You must have been at the Council meeting of 2 weeks ago or listened to Maureen's recording :-) DEF: (replace): dethrone, oust, replace, supersede, take over from Don Samett's explaination of why the 5th Ave Pav looks like it does. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] asbury tower
im not sure of this 100% but i believe the new facade of asbury tower is starting to be installed... at the top of the building i noticed a new darker yellow, maybe tan or brown, precast brick facade... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
I feel there are more children in AP who want to learn than there are children who don't want to learn and if the powers that be could find a way to legally separate the two-I know the school system will turn around--but first everyone has to get on the same accord---the main goal is educating our future. Discipline needs to be instilled for allchildren-parents-teachers. The fight should not be against one another, the fight should be for the children- their future and our future depends on it. We need to change our public schools from being a daycare center and make it what it was built to be a school of learning. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:39:00 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker. com! Private email asks: the question is what does one do with the kid that tells you to go f yourself? YOu send him out of the room and they're back the next day or 10 minutes later. IMO So many variables - Does the teacher really command respect, know the subject matter and pedagogy well, and is he or she a fair and competent teacher? If so, does the administration and board have zero tolerance for behavior which interferes with the education of the other students; if so, great reason to have strong suspension and expulsion criteria. if not, is there mentoring support for the teacher by master teachers? Are parents being held accountable for the behavior of their children? Are they invited to sit in classrooms? Is good student behavior being noted and commended? Do less than effective teachers still get satisfactory observation reports because the district can't attract any better emplyees, or conditional evaluations contingent on specific areas of needed improvement within a specified time? If not, do supervisors fulfill their job descriptions to document the poor teacher performance, required for dismissal? Are counselors always available to student and not overloaded with too many students and CYA paperwork? Just a few examples. Hard work, but it can't be achieved with lots of catered luncheons from Frank's, Serpico's, TJ's, et al. Watch the number of students coming and going to school, particularly high school, with books, indicating homework. Usually a good indication of how serious the district is about academics. In a message dated 7/16/2008 6:17:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com writes: In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:58:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com writes: I just sent for the transcript from Alacra, and will post it. Lots there to apply to AP district. I will post with they send me the download link. Abridged version, cuts to the chase: People understanding that they`re going to be accountable for the work that they`re doing and they`re going to be accountable for producing results.
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I listened to the audio that was posted on line and its very enlightening, a great service, thanks. Yes, Maureen, I heartily agree. Thanks for the great service you're providing. Now if we can only get more of the councilmen to use their microphones... Frank Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: asbury tower
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im not sure of this 100% but i believe the new facade of asbury tower is starting to be installed... at the top of the building i noticed a new darker yellow, maybe tan or brown, precast brick facade... The north west corner about 12 feet has been done. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Appearance of Pavillions this summer versus last summer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I thought I included your post? You were commenting on the need for mixed uses. I was agreeing with that, but then saying that it doesnt look like much has been done given the years that have gone by. I can see why there is a lot of criticism of how its been handled. I'm still thinking of the big promo with Springsteen concerts and all. The places to stay are out of my price range, as are the 'nicer' clubs and shops. The key to any good revitalization of a down and out area is a mix thats affordable. I dont see it and there is really not much entertainment wise in reality. Funny that you dont think the boardwalk looks 'cheap', perhaps you dont know what a place like the bandstand building is supposed to look like? - We are in agreement on mixed uses. We disagree on the renovated pavilionsI don't think they look cheap. Although I think we need to give the boardwalk a bit more time before we cast a final judgement, it is still a work in progress. I have seen some of the pictures Oak has posted of the pavillions and also viewed them prior to contruction last summermy feeling is that most people would feel that the pavillions looked tired prior to the renovation and they look better today? Maybe someone can start a survey on this?..it would be interesting to see the results. Pavillion appearance this summer versus last summer? John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Appearance of Pavillions this summer versus last summer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...my feeling is that most people would feel that the pavillions looked tired prior to the renovation and they look better today? Maybe someone can start a survey on this?..it would be interesting to see the results. Pavillion appearance this summer versus last summer? I'll give you everyone the results to the above question. 98% yes, they look better. 2% No, they don't. The storage trailers are iffy right now and while they serve a purpose, don't exactly cut it, in my mind - as they stand TODAY. I conducted my study/survey the following ways. 1). I grew up on the boardwalk. I wash as old merchants dealt with the city and the times. 2) I worked and owned a place in the first and third ave pavillons. I worked in the 5th ave Pav. I can tell you what was leaking and where and what was done by the city (tar paper) and by us to operate - nothing short of hard hats. 3) Glass windows on our days and after would typically get a brick or body tossed through it. The garage doors that lined the boardwalk really didn't belong on the buildings if you really think about it. Only Criterion and the other candy shops had all glass. Convention Hall was empty, the Paramount useless. 4. The boardwalk was caving in and instead of splinters you'd get nails in your feet. NO one was on the boardwalk - not even pigeons would bother coming - why would they - nothing for them even to do. 5. The bnadshell became deserted - it became unsafe - as wsa the rest of the town. And this was long after the riots. IT wasn't jsut Asbury - Long Branch, AC, Wildwood even POINT. Seaside was it. Wildwood and Point had a couple fires as did long branch - all aroud the same time. Unfortunately, AP didn't - not fires weren't consuming alot of the redevelopment zone. Point, Wildwood and Long Branch all recovered after their fires. AP was just tooting along. OVer the years boardwalk businesses cama and went - as it will be now. Not everyone will make the cut. Maybe some of these ideas are good - but better in smaller spaces. AP never had beer/liquor on the boardwalk. Now it does. AP once purchased lots of old liqour licences on the west side - the belief from the state that there should not be so many in a small areanow we'll ahve liquor in every pav. Sorry about the ramble, I forgot . Stand on the boardwalk and listen to the older people go past. Listen to all the different races/nationality/sex and their comments. Very interesting. It's a great place. A great boardwalk and a great beach - it's changing day by day. I know I am paying Ralph's rent. Another one today. The water park going in there is top notch. They are putting real dollars into construction - regardless of the end result. Does it make it right? Does it make it look better, feel better and attract more people? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Appearance of Pavillions this summer versus last summer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: Ok, look at these I took about three or four years ago http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/cards/c14.htm Better - or worse? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
The fight should be against entrenched politicians who used charges of racism in the last election and who implied things used to be wonderful here. Google's alert fuction trolls the web for me 24/7/365 and I can't keep up with the hits reporting on the incompetence that was the school system several years back. E.g., 1997, _http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf_ (http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf) where the judge noted this district was repeatedly late in supplying discovery requests and filing responsive papers. And that incompetence was compounded by a board, then, which reputedly allowed itself to be overcharged hundreds of thousands of dollars by .its attorney. The under-the-radar smears against later board members during recent election cycles equal those being waged against Obama now. In a message dated 7/17/2008 12:56:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fight should not be against one another, the fight should be for the children- their future and our future depends on it. **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
The ALJ dismissed this district for inexcuseable incompetence: Further..., we cannot ignore the fact that [Asbury Park] was permitted to amend its petition several times and that it received five separate extentions for filing necessary papers. Moreover, Asbury Park had notice as early as November 27, 1996 that Red Bank Regional would be presenting expert testimony to rebut Asbury Park's contention that its performing arts program was equivalent to the program offered by Red Bank Regional and yet, at hearing on December 18, 1966, requested and additional delay so that it could consult an expert. Those lawyers fees and the luncheon fees can buy / could have bought lots of jackets and pencils. No offense to those wanting to throw parties these days, but we are fooling ourselves if we think such nickle and dime fundraising is going to effect any radical change toward thorough, efficient, and excellent education here. In a message dated 7/17/2008 4:59:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't keep up with the hits reporting on the incompetence that was the school system several years back. E.g., 1997, _http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf_ (http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf) where the judge noted this district was repeatedly late in supplying discovery requests and filing responsive papers. **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
In a message dated 7/17/2008 5:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but we are fooling ourselves 1. When Steve Adubato recently had a local politician on his NJN call-in show, Steve asked how Asbury Park has been improving. The only answer forthcoming about education was about sports. 2. Michelle Rhee has been chancellor of DC's school only since June 2007: Public school students in the Washington D.C. area showed marked improvements in academic achievement due to the bold education reforms pursued by D.C. Public Schools chancellor Michelle Rhee, a second-generation Korean American who assumed the post in January of last year, according to the Washington Post. The ratio of elementary school students who achieved proficiency in math rose from 29 percent last year to 40 percent this year, while in reading comprehension the ratio rose from 38 percent to 46 percent over the same period. The ratio of middle and high school students who achieved proficiency in math rose from 27 percent to 36 percent, while in reading comprehension the ratio rose from 30 percent to 39 percent. Upon taking office, Rhee consolidated 23 public schools with low academic achievement levels and replaced 30 percent of school principals. She is pushing a performance-based pay system where salaries for teachers could more than double depending on their achievements. Such are the changes a determined education chief can bring about. Excerpt from We Need Someone Like Michelle Rhee, _http://tinyurl.com/5a5n43_ (http://tinyurl.com/5a5n43) Corrections [Extensions and 1996, not 1966 below.] In a message dated 7/17/2008 5:24:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ALJ dismissed this district for inexcuseable incompetence: Further..., we cannot ignore the fact that [Asbury Park] was permitted to amend its petition several times and that it received five separate extentions for filing necessary papers. Moreover, Asbury Park had notice as early as November 27, 1996 that Red Bank Regional would be presenting expert testimony to rebut Asbury Park's contention that its performing arts program was equivalent to the program offered by Red Bank Regional and yet, at hearing on December 18, 1966, requested and additional delay so that it could consult an expert. Those lawyers fees and the luncheon fees can buy / could have bought lots of jackets and pencils. No offense to those wanting to throw parties these days, but we are fooling ourselves if we think such nickle and dime fundraising is going to effect any radical change toward thorough, efficient, and excellent education here. In a message dated 7/17/2008 4:59:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't keep up with the hits reporting on the incompetence that was the school system several years back. E.g., 1997, _http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf_ (http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf) where the judge noted this district was repeatedly late in supplying discovery requests and filing responsive papers. Get fantasy football with free live scoring. _Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today_ (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) . **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520)
Re: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -----OH NO!!!!!
As they say No good deed goes unpunished, No act of charity goes unresented The block party is to provide kids going back to school with supplies has NOTING TO DO WITH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION or what they should be doing ... period! The Ridge and Bangs Revitalization Committee and the City of Asbury Park are working together to give students a jumpstart on the new school term. As Denise wrote “Just imagine over 1500 children and parents in attendance enjoying fee food, fun, mentors and entertainment with a guarantee that each child receives a book bag full of supplies for the upcoming school year (one less worry)”! This is more that what the school district should be doing it’s about giving hope for a better future for each and every child attending school in Asbury Park! So, please let's end this subject under this subject heading. If you want to continue, which you have the right, please do it under another subject title. Thank you! Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/17 Thu PM 05:23:45 EDT To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: IT'S COMING -OH NO! The ALJ dismissed this district for inexcuseable incompetence: Further..., we cannot ignore the fact that [Asbury Park] was permitted to amend its petition several times and that it received five separate extentions for filing necessary papers. Moreover, Asbury Park had notice as early as November 27, 1996 that Red Bank Regional would be presenting expert testimony to rebut Asbury Park's contention that its performing arts program was equivalent to the program offered by Red Bank Regional and yet, at hearing on December 18, 1966, requested and additional delay so that it could consult an expert. Those lawyers fees and the luncheon fees can buy / could have bought lots of jackets and pencils. No offense to those wanting to throw parties these days, but we are fooling ourselves if we think such nickle and dime fundraising is going to effect any radical change toward thorough, efficient, and excellent education here. In a message dated 7/17/2008 4:59:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I can't keep up with the hits reporting on the incompetence that was the school system several years back. E.g., 1997, http://www.state.nj.us/education/legal/sboe/1997/asbpk.pdf where the judge noted this district was repeatedly late in supplying discovery requests and filing responsive papers./DIV/FONT/BLOCKQUOTE/DIV/FONTBRBRBRDIVFONT style=color: black;font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;HRGet fantasy football with free live scoring. A title=http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520; href=http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520; target=_blankSign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Ave. 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712 Cell: 732-996-8160 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Appearance of Pavillions this summer versus last summer
From pictures years ago, the first ave pavilion looked plane. It may have been an old building that's been around a few decades but I don't really see anything that architectural intriguing about the building. Weather you like the current remodel or not, something needed to be done with it. Again, the back was closed off to ocean ave. Closed in feeling.
[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....
Lockers would be great for day trippers to use who come in by train. I think it would also help to increase the numbers of tourists per day. No need for parking spaces for these folks either. I really think when Asbury Park starts to build more hotels in the future that they ought to promote coming in by train and leaving your car at home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lockers would be great for day trippers to use who come in by train. I think it would also help to increase the numbers of tourists per day. No need for parking spaces for these folks either. I really think when Asbury Park starts to build more hotels in the future that they ought to promote coming in by train and leaving your car at home. Even if you live a block or five or twney blocks away- it might be nice to clean up before heading home or heading home and coming back to enjoy the rest of the day or night. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Maybe I am glad that I will never have kids!
I don't know how parents do this on a regular basis! I have taken the dog with me on vacation, SIMPLE; dog food, bowls, water and a leash (poop bags too). The duck is like having a real kid! Diapers, stroller, food, water, diaper bag, toys, playpen, stuff to clean stuff up! I have been loading the car all day! I attend to him every day, but taking this show on the road (and it is only for a weekend!) has tired me out. At least I'll get a break on tuition! We'll see all of you tomorrow, good night! Glenn Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
