[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
into doing that when I was at Bank of NY. We were going to relocate our Manasquan operations office and our Bradley Beach branch to Grand Ave - and they said? BNY picked out a building to rent on Grand, hired an architect to draw up plans which included a shower/locker room so visiting offices could go to the beach. Unfortunately, the building's owner was in my opinion playing games with the bank. I can guess at his motives, but that is all they are - guesses. We were held up for quite some time and we started looking for another spot. By then, Chase bought BNY's retail and mortgage division. If we'd moved right away there might be a Chase branch there now. I am familiar with the Villages. My parents looked into them. The plan is appealing to some people I guess. The community development side of me hates, hates, hates retirement communities. I think they are in some violation of the Fair Housing Act as they discriminate against people with children. I still think that an affordable community is one with a balance of citizens. I don't expect any large business to relocate entirely to AP. You're right. It is too small to house a corporate headquarters. It could hold several satellite offices. The BNY offices in Manasquan were only 2 floors. We would have had more room in AP and could have had a branch on the ground floor. Renovations were just a part of the cost analysis. They were looking at the long-term tax savings from being in the UEZ and hiring locally. The costs were worth the benefits. BNY was a fairly conservative company, but they were forward thinking. That's probably why they sold retail and mortgage before the fiasco. I still think the city could lure in more variety of businesses. Have you ever been to Newburgh, NY? That is where BNY moved their major lending operations. The office was in a dead industrial zone. They'd never leave Wall Street. One Wall was our executive office in the house that Hamilton built. They were happy to move their other locations though. Here's a link to NJDCA about Urban Enterprise Zones http://www.nj.gov/dca/affiliates/uez/about/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
In a message dated 12/29/2008 8:39:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@yahoo.com writes: After a few days watching the semiretired o retired having a great,c arefree time - it's a scary look into the future. === Scary is right. Reminds me of some of those retirement villages in southern Ocean County. Used to drive my parents and some of their friends to their doctors in Whiting. I commented on those trips in 2006, message 18165: http://tinyurl.com/76oup4 I now refer to such places as Hell for the Hoary Headed. My parents weren't wealthy enough for a gated community, but they did, at first, enjoy their move to Holiday City. Time passed, their neighbors and they got even older--more and more, nothing but infirm widows and widowers unable to care for themselves or each other, but no small or adult children in sight, just lots of visits by emergency vehicles day and night. Like crossing the River Styx. Wishes to all for the New Year: Live Long Thrive. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
Thanks Jennifer. I just can't get a handle on what the following will mean for school systems: And that means that three out of four home buyers will have no interest in a house in the suburbs with a good school system No interest in a good school system sounds ominous to me. In a message dated 12/29/2008 12:04:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jennifern...@yahoo.com writes: Mario, The article is interesting and could be valid except we are missing a very necessary component unless the childless households are also retired. We do not have enough local industry in Asbury Park to support all of its residents. There are very few large scale walk-to jobs. Back in the day, Asbury Park had the phone company and the gas company. We do not have those types of jobs anymore. I would love to live and work in the same city. I would love to stop driving except when absolutely necessary. In order to create that type of city, we need to lure larger employers here. We have the buildings. We have the trains and we could have better buses or an in-city transit system. For a city to be healthy, it needs to have a balance of incomes. There needs to be affordable housing and reliable affordable transportation for the lower income workers. It really does need a good school system for the middle and lower income workers because otherwise it won't have balance in the distribution of the population. AP has a lot going for it especially location and the small town disguised as a city aspect. It is on a major transit route. It has one industry in tourism and entertainment. I also has small businesses and local professionals like Realtors, lawyers, doctors, etc. It does have the state office building too. That is definitely a half-full glass. If we want to fill the glass to the top then we need to attract larger businesses. That isn't impossible. There are great tax benefits for a business to open AP facilities. I looked into doing that when I was at Bank of NY. We were going to relocate our Manasquan operations office and our Bradley Beach branch to Grand Ave. We did that in Newburgh, NY and it made sense to do the same here. I don't know too much about schools so I'll leave that up to those who do. I do know communities. They work best when there is a mix. That is especially true for smaller cities. I think the glass could fill up. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: as always, thanks for well tought response. Interesting they were going to even have showers for their employees. Imagine if they had showers to change on the boardwalk lots of interesting demo's about the retirement communities, especially the villages. It's the largest residential community built in the US. about 99% white. They targeted (at least originally) the midwest - miss etc, then upstate ny, maine etc. You either love that life or hate it. My daigheter called it the stepford wives or some other teen series where you come in in ugly ville, then move on to pretty ville etc (I forgot the series,,,). There's lots of communities like that - you come in, buy a small condo either as a single or new couple, move on to the next size, then the next, then the retirement home, assisted living, full nursing care, hospice, then your final resting place. Not for me either. Excellent marketing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
In a message dated 12/29/2008 1:17:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@yahoo.com writes: Check out thevillages.com (I looked at this place as a weird version of AP - but it's 5 times the size...) = I checked it out. Permanent Vacation is weird and sounds boring and deadly. The Madison Avenue term Lifestyle is another red flag to me. (BTW: top Google results for lifestyle are all about condoms. ) **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
In a message dated 12/30/2008 8:42:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@yahoo.com writes: My daigheter called it the stepford wives... There's lots of communities like that - you come in, buy a small condo either as a single or new couple, move on to the next size, then the next, then the retirement home, assisted living, full nursing care, hospice, then your final resting place. Not for me either. === Stepford Communities is great. Seeking the bubble reputation. Long before that 1972 novel, Shakespeare nailed it with his Seven Ages of Man: And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant, Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms. Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel And shining morning face, creeping like snail Unwillingly to school. And then the lover, Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier, Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard, Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel, Seeking the bubble reputation Even in the canon's mouth. And then the justice, In fair round belly with good capon lined, With eyes severe and beard of formal cut, Full of wise saws and modern instances; And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts Into the lean and slippered pantaloon With spectacles on nose and pouch on side; His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice, Turning again toward childish treble, pipes And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all, That ends this strange eventful history, Is second childishness and mere oblivion, Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything. Cheers!;-) **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: Stepford Communities is great. Seeking the bubble reputation. when we left the gates we thought they would sound an alarm - the youngings have escaped.. we pictured 2 old ladies with shotguns on jet powered golf carts.. It is a lifestyle. It's own radio station, tv station, paper... many retired, semi retired, forced retired and volunteers. the villages says they employ about 12,000 people in all the stores and support staff. They even had an outbreak of sexually transmitted disease... according to wikipedia... Cheap beer at 5 gets people going. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
Yeppers. A Gated Hell for the Hoary Headed, In a message dated 12/30/2008 9:26:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@yahoo.com writes: the youngings have escaped.. we pictured 2 old ladies with shotguns on jet powered golf carts.. It is a lifestyle. It's own radio station, tv station, paper... many retired, semi retired, forced retired and volunteers. the villages says they employ about 12,000 people in all the stores and support staff. They even had an outbreak of sexually transmitted disease... according to wikipedia... Cheap beer at 5 gets people going. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] you say tomato... I say.....
Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote: the Coaster is blatantly wrong. and The Coaster has an on-line venue. Simple and clean. you want more, you pick it up. Has their online offering hurt their paper circulation? What if The Coaster went totally free for their printed paper? The Internet is powerful. More so then trying to figure out how many people picked up and read the paper or see an ad and react (unless you have a coupon). If 45,000 pages were looked at in one month on asburyboardwalk.com - is that more valuable then 10,000 newspapers distributed? The paper is great way of reaching a local audience. You see it and touch it. The Internet is more powerful - as it provides instant feedback on a query - like restaurants in Asbury Park at 5 pm or 9 pm either on your mobile or home pc you might see asburyboardwalk.com on google or asbury park dining on yahoo you might see someone else's site - but no TCN. What's more valuable? A: Both so much detail can be obtained from the web what's even lower then low cost ads Free listings. http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/dining1.htm Plus interesting stats time to rethink the model. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] My Homage To Dan J
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/12/30/deseno_tricitynews/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] My Homage To Dan J
Easier, when there's no rebuttal, huh? On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, justifiedright wrote: http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/12/30/deseno_tricitynews/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: My Homage To Dan J
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Easier, when there's no rebuttal, huh? I don't know what that means. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Join Together and ReVision the New Year!
ReVision Theatre of Asbury Park, NJ December 30, 2008 Dear ReVision Theatre Enthusiast: You have made a difference. 2008 has been a dramatic year for ReVision Theatre. Together with you, we have reached a major goal by bringing quality, professional theatrical productions (Hello, Dolly!, Hair, and Scrooge in Rouge) to Asbury Park. And together with you, we can begin the process of returning Asbury Park to its' splendor. Producing invigorating theatre with a fresh new perspective is very challenging, compounded by the recent economic events that have affected our community and our country. You can make a difference again. Our next production, Kingdom at the Asbury Park VFW Hall, is a new latin infused rock musical with strong social ramifications. Followed by Funny Girl at Asbury Park's Paramount Theatre, starring Steven Brinberg (the premiere Barbra Steisand impersonator). Our 2008- 2009 season ends with the Broadway hit, The Full Monty, at the Carousel on the Boardwalk (where last summer's Hair was performed). With your generous support, together we can accomplish these goals. You are truly what keeps our theatre company going as ticket sales alone cover less than 50% of our production costs. Without you, it just isn't possible. In order to continue, we need you to make as generous donation as possible to ReVision Theatre as your 2008 year end donation. Doing so will not only secure our future productions, but give you a place in the renaissance of this great city. By receiving this letter, we already know that you believe in ReVision Theatre and the future of Asbury Park. Please don't let us down. We are in this together. If the nonprofit arts institutions can survive in hard times, our economy has a greater advantage of bouncing back. Theatres bring communities together. They generate revenue for local businesses, restaurants, and lodging. This revenue will not only revitalize Asbury Park, but the help support the economy of the County and State, as well. Let's also not forget that property values grow with commerce and favorable cultural outlets. Your donation is tax deductable to the fullest extent of the law. With your support, ReVision Theatre will continue to improve the quality of life in your community. This is most apparent in our success of transforming the VFW bingo hall into a professional theatre with our holiday production or bringing the historic carousel house on the boardwalk alive with laughter and song. This is only the beginning. Donate online right now at www.ReVisionTheatre.org or send your check to: ReVision Theatre 2009 PO BOX 973 Asbury Park, NJ 07712 Have a Joyous New Year and thank you for making a difference. Yours truly, Bob Angelini ReVision Theatre Board President P.S. Please give what you can right now. For those who donate $1000 or more; you will join our elite sponsors and receive free tickets to all of our remaining shows: Kingdom (April 16 May 3), Steven Brinberg as Barbra Streisand in Funny Girl (July 11), and The Full Monty (August 12 September 6). P.S.S. Those donating as little as $25 up to $999 will become automatic ReVision Theatre Members and receive 20% off all future ticket purchases for one year. The Genesius Guild Inc, DBA Revision Theatre is a nonprofit 501(c)3 charitable organization registered with the New Jersey and New York Charities Registration Bureaus. ReVision Theatre PO BOX 973 Asbury Park NJ 07712 United States Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
My daigheter called it the stepford wives... I call them God's waiting room. Snarky? Yes. They are affordable though and someone takes care of your property and there's a bus to take you to fabulous places like Brick Plaza and Atlantic City. Some are now filled with mostly working people in their 50's and 60's. Retiring is hard to do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
I seem to remember something about people living longer in cities, like NY. The older people there, because they saw others in their community daily, lived healthier lives. They didn't need to drive places. One of the things that is so great about ap is that it is a sort of middle ground. we have space, beautiful wide streets, but a city vibe as well. all sorts of people walking, some you know from seeing over the years, they are people in your life, part of your world and there are many more in close proximity than if i were living in most of middletown. i love the intimacy that is forced on us when we live close together. easier to feel that your family is wider than once assumed. It can also be a pain in the ass as family can be. thanks for the mention of a mix of incomes being healthier. That seems obvious to me, but i don't think that is a common understanding. we've got lots of issues surrounding income. We are way too infatuated with the monied folk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 12/30/2008 8:42:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@... writes: My daigheter called it the stepford wives... There's lots of communities like that - you come in, buy a small condo either as a single or new couple, move on to the next size, then the next, then the retirement home, assisted living, full nursing care, hospice, then your final resting place. Not for me either. === Stepford Communities is great. Seeking the bubble reputation. Long before that 1972 novel, Shakespeare nailed it with his Seven Ages of Man: And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant, Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms. Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel And shining morning face, creeping like snail Unwillingly to school. And then the lover, Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier, Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard, Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel, Seeking the bubble reputation Even in the canon's mouth. And then the justice, In fair round belly with good capon lined, With eyes severe and beard of formal cut, Full of wise saws and modern instances; And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts Into the lean and slippered pantaloon With spectacles on nose and pouch on side; His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice, Turning again toward childish treble, pipes And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all, That ends this strange eventful history, Is second childishness and mere oblivion, Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything. Cheers!;-) **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: I seem to remember something about people living longer in cities, like NY. I picture myself retired looking at the ocean and pool. Hopefully there will be some 20-40 somethings on the beach/pool that I can just look at and they can look at some dirty old man. It looks like Hugh Hefner is still alive. You can't retire in NJ and stay so easy. Unless you retire with 2/3 of your salary maybe you can. Sitting on your rear no matter where you are is no good either. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
i see myself sitting on a bench on the bw checking out old men. livin on my 2/3, if i haven't figured out how to live simply and joyfully by that age, i don't deserve joy. nothing dirty about the appreciation of youthful beauty. Being able to see the beauty in age makes life a little sweeter. happy new year --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I seem to remember something about people living longer in cities, like NY. I picture myself retired looking at the ocean and pool. Hopefully there will be some 20-40 somethings on the beach/pool that I can just look at and they can look at some dirty old man. It looks like Hugh Hefner is still alive. You can't retire in NJ and stay so easy. Unless you retire with 2/3 of your salary maybe you can. Sitting on your rear no matter where you are is no good either. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Fess up..Which One of You Was It ;-)
Someone left this post over at Fox: Comment by TillieFromAP December 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm That Tri City News doesn't have news in it, just provincial blather and ads. You really can't compare that to a city daily. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Park group on Linkedin
FYI For those of you that like to hare your professional experience, network etc, I created a Linkedin.com network group titled something original Asbury Park http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1631407 We'll start with this and see where it goes. I know there's AP teachers and police and more with profiles on linked in and more. feel free to help get it going. Join linkedin.com and then join the group Asbury Park Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Fess up..Which One of You Was It ;-)
Now we have to read Fox comments, too? On Dec 30, 2008, at 9:40 PM, justifiedright wrote: Someone left this post over at Fox: Comment by TillieFromAP December 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm That Tri City News doesn't have news in it, just provincial blather and ads. You really can't compare that to a city daily. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Never On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
Evangelical Christians have long been a base for the Republican Party. But polling data and anecdotal evidence suggest that younger evangelicals voted for Barack Obama at double the rate they did for the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry. http://www.northjersey.com/politics/Leaving_the_GOP_fold.html On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ROFLOL... Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
