[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpipe...@... wrote: Well, I don't wish to belabor the point, but while I think everyone can agree with what your saying here, I still don't see how the city blew anything vis a vis the Hall of Fame. When you used the adverb again after blew it, that sounded like there was an opportunity the city had regarding this particular exhibit, and that they lost that opportunity through inaction. Or is it more that this exhibit simply reminds you that the city has dropped the ball on cultural tourism continually over the course of many years? I took the meaning of blew it again as referring to the lost opportunity to install the NJ Hall of Fame in Asbury Park. The entire 'Pony Block' should have been designated for such a use instead of being zoned for condos. The Casino complex could have been a nice venue for such an enterprise also, although I still believe its strength is in being a multi use entertainment/event facility. Also keep in mind that the Fame of Asbury Park extends far beyond music into Religion, City Planning, Use of technological innovations, Sports, Amusements History, Sanitation and Health, Theateretc. An opportunity to become a world class museum/destination that works with the identity and heritage of the City instead of against it as the current condo/retail plan does. Yes the City Blew It. What's really sad is that few are willing to stand up and say so in spite of all the evidence. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Cash comes in for Asbury's mounted police
Here's an update http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009901150448 In tough times it's even greater when people step up to help. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Jeffrey from Plan B on Oprah.com
Jeffrey Haveson from Plan B did a great job on an Oprah webcast last night. Jeffrey spoke to Suze Orman from Plan B with Asbury Park prominently displayed and mentioned several times. He was concerned with Suze's recommendation that people not eat out for a month and the effect that will have on small restaurants. If you missed it you can still watch it and download it at http://www.oprah.com/index. Click on Suze Orman episode from 1/15. Jeffrey's first up. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Jack, I guess I don't see the boardwalk through the same eyes. I never expect boardwalks to be grand. I have lots of very happy boardwalk memories and none were fancy. I grew up in Point Pleasant and worked on that boardwalk. We rolled down the garage doors over the stands to lock up at night. Most people think Point Pleasant is and has always been a very nice place. I have also had similar experiences regarding the Bruce - AP connection. I was in Ireland in the summer of 1980 when I told people where I was from no one had heard of Pt Pl, so I'd move up to AP next. I usually got a Bruce Springsteen response or even a do you know Bruce question. Ireland is a lot smaller than the US. They figured he lived in the next village LOL. If AP didn't work I had to say I was near NYC. I have seen many Bruce fans around the city in the last few years and they seem very pleased with AP. I've taken a lot of pictures for people standing under the Greetings from Asbury Park lights on CH. It wasn't always like this. I remember buying a book back in the late 80's for a Bruce loving boyfriend. The book described AP as a desolate place with an empty beach on the 4th of July. Not anymore. As for a Bruce display, why does it have to be done by the city? Any local business could either borrow or buy Bruce memorabilia and have a display. Just a thought. Hell if Bruce wants to lend All AHEAD some stuff I'd use it as a fundraiser for creating and maintaining homeownership in the city. I'm not sure how, but I'd figure out some way to make money for the cause. Bruce have your people call my people. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?
In this day and age, if it did happen, you would think that someone would have pulled out their phone and snapped a picture. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: We have a dedicated core of new musicians here, but we only have a disjointed and tiny group of clubs for them to work in, and to attact big names to. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: As for a Bruce display, why does it have to be done by the city? Two posts that speak directly to what one of those dedicated musicians writes quite eloquently about here. Read through to the end: http://nicoleatkinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sweet-home-new-orleans.html What's that old saying about if you want something done right you have to do it yourself? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
For me, it's not just a focus on Bruce or anything, it's more the loss of the boardwalk vibe that I grew up with. On the one hand, as a musician, I grew up playing in AP clubs, and back then the scene was so much more exciting then it is today. Some might argue that Live Nation has brought that back to AP, but it's a pale comparison to what we used to have. WNEW concerts on the beach. Many more venues having great shows every night. The combination of a vibrant boardwalk, the sounds and smells of rides and music was magic. I think we've totally lost that. I will forever reference the vibe of a place like Austin Texas, which has a dedicated music district that's alive and well, completely up to date but also paying tribute to Austin's musical heritage. Our oceanfront music scene is more about yuppies then anything now. Not much to inspire the kids to play music, no desire at all to encourage music that might come out of the west side of town, no Arthur Pryor bandshelljust a strip mall by the sea. I honestly don't think we'll ever see anything more then marginal success as it stands now because what we have is just generic and lacking soul. We made a huge mistake by focusing on retail and real estate instead of pure entertainment. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Jack, I guess I don't see the boardwalk through the same eyes. I never expect boardwalks to be grand. I have lots of very happy boardwalk memories and none were fancy. I grew up in Point Pleasant and worked on that boardwalk. We rolled down the garage doors over the stands to lock up at night. Most people think Point Pleasant is and has always been a very nice place. I have also had similar experiences regarding the Bruce - AP connection. I was in Ireland in the summer of 1980 when I told people where I was from no one had heard of Pt Pl, so I'd move up to AP next. I usually got a Bruce Springsteen response or even a do you know Bruce question. Ireland is a lot smaller than the US. They figured he lived in the next village LOL. If AP didn't work I had to say I was near NYC. I have seen many Bruce fans around the city in the last few years and they seem very pleased with AP. I've taken a lot of pictures for people standing under the Greetings from Asbury Park lights on CH. It wasn't always like this. I remember buying a book back in the late 80's for a Bruce loving boyfriend. The book described AP as a desolate place with an empty beach on the 4th of July. Not anymore. As for a Bruce display, why does it have to be done by the city? Any local business could either borrow or buy Bruce memorabilia and have a display. Just a thought. Hell if Bruce wants to lend All AHEAD some stuff I'd use it as a fundraiser for creating and maintaining homeownership in the city. I'm not sure how, but I'd figure out some way to make money for the cause. Bruce have your people call my people. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cash comes in for Asbury's mounted police
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Here's an update http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009901150448 In tough times it's even greater when people step up to help. Jennifer Lucky. You can't always expect people to stand up. The horses do look neat at the parades etc. But in tough times, you have to think about how to spend your money. Chili again today for lunch. Moms left over's for dinner. Skipped lunch in nyc yesterday... Spend what you don't have. Hi-ho silver and way we go And I really do love horses. How much do they cost to maintain? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Bruce have your people call my people. Jennifer Very funny. Goes back to the old line why hasn't bruce opened a club in AP...if he meant so much to himself Or why wouldn't his kids say something like ..dad, dad, can you me and mom open our own club.. or get me a condo where you played... But when you grow up with all the toys and have traveled around the world with mom and dad and seehow much does mom and dad tell you about those old days... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: The wnew stuff was only around for a few years- one day. Yep - we'd make a killing in a few hours, but NOTHING like being able to open at 7am and close around midnight, at least in my time. If a big group came into town and it was hot - we'd just stay open as long as we could - not close at 9pm. That's how you run a business that relies on hot weather and more - you open early and stay open late and you can't do it alone. If someone needs to hit a golf ball, play for stuffed animal or share a kohr's as it dribbles down your body or ride a carousel or just sit and look at the water or lay in the sand - it's called summer. You stay open at NIGHT, so people can spend money. Junk food = profit. It's 11 degrees. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Important, Mounted Police - Please Read....
Mario, As usual, a day late and a pound short! Both articles are in the Local Section! I don't read the paper unless it's a day old! I'm usually hobbling around in my ski-boot, taking meds or trying to figure out if I'm wearing PJ's all day or sweats! Big decisions that take me ALL day! Sorry, Glenn! I guess breaking news comes online, before the printed version hits the streets! As the famous line in Casablanca goes, I'm Shocked! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 1/15/2009 9:21:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sharon_b...@... writes: Still didn't find the bank article, but RB said he saw it! Still looking. The local luncheonette was abuzz with talk of the PNC robbery yesterday morning. I tried yesterday to find the story at app.com but I guess they don't do breaking news. Here it is today: _Police seeking man who robbed Asbury bank | APP.com | Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01) _http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01_ (http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Excellent Post! You've summed up this town in one simple paragraph. So sad, but every word is true! What's in the redevelopment for us? Absolutely nothing! Just speaking Truth to Power! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: The city blew it again. Yesterday a major exhibit was announced for the R n R Hall of Fame... a Bruce exhibit. Of course AP will be a part of that exhibit. And here we are with our most well known and recognizable export, with nothing. And what do we get? A boardwalk with mostly failing high end retail, acres of empty parking lots, and the ugly piece of crap C8 part 2 destined to mar the landscape for an indefinite time. I guess that's what we get when we allow a company who focuses on malls and retails to guide our destiny. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
once again, my unpopular I heart AP response. for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now. Perhaps it doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live now, not 20, 30 years ago. And the comments I have been hearing from people the past few summers actually reflect that ap does stir good memories, not sure how many of you spend time in the local bizes, but I do. I hear it. I can't wait to check out the Stone Pony. English Beat..yippee. Its not all high end anything. I think there are two design like stores that are out of the average persons pay range, so what, everyone is supposed to live on my budget? good for those who can buy an 800$ chaise. and wonderful for the retail owners who can pay their rent with it. this is monmouth county, there is lots of $$ here, let them spend it in AP. O'tools is reasonable, that fried food place in CH is reasonable there were all sorts of little knick knack shops that remind me precisely of what was BW like years ago. On the 31st you can sample cocktails for 5 bucks in CH, bring a flask if you need more of a buzz, then you can walk down to paradise and if you get there before 9 ish you can dance for free. and be entertained if you are prone to enjoyment. they usually have drink specials. langostas menu looks reasonable and the space is beautiful (someone mentioned they were packed last sat) the mini waterpark looks like loads of fun, the numerous festivals that come are a blast, thinking of the beautiful kite one at the moment, volleyball, road trip etc. there is regularly free music on the BW. for someone who mentioned somewhere else they are sick of negativity, you dish it out a lot Jack. is there anything you like about the place? as far as the Bruce thing goes, what's the connection other than he sung about how depressed the place was? I don't need to romanticize the badlands anymore. is it perfect? no way. but neither is anything else. I really wish people would stop bitching about the place which often seems to me people projecting their general unhappiness onto the world around them. what you see in the world has more to do with what is in your head than what is in the world. its so weird to me, everything you want is already here. except perhaps the teenage you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: The wnew stuff was only around for a few years- one day. Yep - we'd make a killing in a few hours, but NOTHING like being able to open at 7am and close around midnight, at least in my time. If a big group came into town and it was hot - we'd just stay open as long as we could - not close at 9pm. That's how you run a business that relies on hot weather and more - you open early and stay open late and you can't do it alone. If someone needs to hit a golf ball, play for stuffed animal or share a kohr's as it dribbles down your body or ride a carousel or just sit and look at the water or lay in the sand - it's called summer. You stay open at NIGHT, so people can spend money. Junk food = profit. It's 11 degrees. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
You know what? I make no apologies about my opinions of AP. I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it. I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have, and once had. I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel bad at all in saying it. Sorry. Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's better then it was in recent years, but nothing like what it could be. And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once again, since I work in the business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could be, but it's the best that it can be at the moment. Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection to the city. His most famous album is callled Greetings from Asbury Park and the album cover is a classic post card from it's heyday. He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no longer exist. His name is inextricably associated with the city. We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that. You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment and being so close to the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of Convention Hall and the acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I absolutely love Cookman Avenue because it still has a classic look with character. But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been renovated. It says nothing at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip mall, but that's just me. I greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been eliminated and that nobody is taking MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of space destined for failure., On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there, because bicycling by the sea really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City, Cape May, and scores of similar places across the country. My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country, in fact, AP is a safe haven away from it because it's my home. Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm probably the most immature 47 year old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the teenage me. I'm more about aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees. I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working overseas, where they tend to value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then rebuild, and when they do rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before. Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country. We don't build buildings to last anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of money. And I think that's a great loss. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: once again, my unpopular I heart AP response. for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now. Perhaps it doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live now, not 20, 30 years ago. And the comments I have been hearing from people the past few summers actually reflect that ap does stir good memories, not sure how many of you spend time in the local bizes, but I do. I hear it. I can't wait to check out the Stone Pony. English Beat..yippee. Its not all high end anything. I think there are two design like stores that are out of the average persons pay range, so what, everyone is supposed to live on my budget? good for those who can buy an 800$ chaise. and wonderful for the retail owners who can pay their rent with it. this is monmouth county, there is lots of $$ here, let them spend it in AP. O'tools is reasonable, that fried food place in CH is reasonable there were all sorts of little knick knack shops that remind me precisely of what was BW like years ago. On the 31st you can sample cocktails for 5 bucks in CH, bring a flask if you need more of a buzz, then you can walk down to paradise and if you get there before 9 ish you can dance for free. and be entertained if you are prone to enjoyment. they usually have drink specials. langostas menu looks reasonable and the space is beautiful (someone mentioned they were packed last sat) the mini waterpark looks like loads of fun, the numerous festivals that come are a blast, thinking of the beautiful kite one at the moment, volleyball, road trip etc. there is regularly free music on the BW. for someone who mentioned somewhere else they are sick of negativity, you dish it out a lot Jack. is there anything you like about the place? as far as the Bruce thing goes, what's the connection other than he sung about how depressed the place was? I don't need to romanticize the badlands anymore. is it perfect? no way. but neither is anything else. I really wish people would stop bitching about the place which often seems to me people projecting their general unhappiness onto the world
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
I certainly wasn't looking for an apology. People can be as unhappy as they wish. Lots of people live the things would be better if... life. I just think its kinda sad and I will reiterate it has more to do with us than the world. I also think your perception about ap is off and would like others to know that there is a tremendous amount to enjoy and love here. There are plenty of posts about ap's failings. i am probably ignorant about springsteen, i mostly listen to lesser known artists. Loved him when I was 11. springsteen is a tiny drop in a sea of great music. and he hardly needs the attention. It also seems sorta pointless to complain here. You should be at city council meetings. Volunteering for commissions. In my experience, the people who complain the most (and i don't just mean here) are those that don't participate in the vibrancy of the place; the food, the nightlife, the celebrations. people are enjoying it and will probably continue to do so. I wish you and the others for whom delight is so out of reach would but that's up to you. the world will never mold to our own ego's specifications so our choice is to become open loving participants, try to become a power mongering tyrant, or be miserable. not a difficult choice for me. (and i love a little dissatisfaction myself once in a while...all egos do). I hope others make it to the economical entertainment on the 31st. And paradise is always a great place to have ...dare i say it, FUN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: You know what? I make no apologies about my opinions of AP. I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it. I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have, and once had. I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel bad at all in saying it. Sorry. Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's better then it was in recent years, but nothing like what it could be. And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once again, since I work in the business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could be, but it's the best that it can be at the moment. Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection to the city. His most famous album is callled Greetings from Asbury Park and the album cover is a classic post card from it's heyday. He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no longer exist. His name is inextricably associated with the city. We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that. You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment and being so close to the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of Convention Hall and the acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I absolutely love Cookman Avenue because it still has a classic look with character. But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been renovated. It says nothing at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip mall, but that's just me. I greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been eliminated and that nobody is taking MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of space destined for failure., On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there, because bicycling by the sea really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City, Cape May, and scores of similar places across the country. My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country, in fact, AP is a safe haven away from it because it's my home. Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm probably the most immature 47 year old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the teenage me. I'm more about aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees. I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working overseas, where they tend to value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then rebuild, and when they do rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before. Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country. We don't build buildings to last anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of money. And I think that's a great loss. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: once again, my unpopular I heart AP response. for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now. Perhaps it doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live now, not 20, 30 years ago. And the comments I have been hearing from people the past few summers actually reflect that ap does stir good memories, not sure how many of you spend time in the local bizes, but I do. I hear it. I can't wait to check out the Stone Pony. English Beat..yippee. Its not all high end anything. I think there are two design like stores
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
I also think your perception about ap is off How can you judge somebody else's perception? That's kinda ridiculous. Not everybody sees the world thru your eyes. Sorry, but I disagree. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: I certainly wasn't looking for an apology. People can be as unhappy as they wish. Lots of people live the things would be better if... life. I just think its kinda sad and I will reiterate it has more to do with us than the world. I also think your perception about ap is off and would like others to know that there is a tremendous amount to enjoy and love here. There are plenty of posts about ap's failings. i am probably ignorant about springsteen, i mostly listen to lesser known artists. Loved him when I was 11. springsteen is a tiny drop in a sea of great music. and he hardly needs the attention. It also seems sorta pointless to complain here. You should be at city council meetings. Volunteering for commissions. In my experience, the people who complain the most (and i don't just mean here) are those that don't participate in the vibrancy of the place; the food, the nightlife, the celebrations. people are enjoying it and will probably continue to do so. I wish you and the others for whom delight is so out of reach would but that's up to you. the world will never mold to our own ego's specifications so our choice is to become open loving participants, try to become a power mongering tyrant, or be miserable. not a difficult choice for me. (and i love a little dissatisfaction myself once in a while...all egos do). I hope others make it to the economical entertainment on the 31st. And paradise is always a great place to have ...dare i say it, FUN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You know what? I make no apologies about my opinions of AP. I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it. I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have, and once had. I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel bad at all in saying it. Sorry. Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's better then it was in recent years, but nothing like what it could be. And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once again, since I work in the business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could be, but it's the best that it can be at the moment. Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection to the city. His most famous album is callled Greetings from Asbury Park and the album cover is a classic post card from it's heyday. He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no longer exist. His name is inextricably associated with the city. We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that. You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment and being so close to the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of Convention Hall and the acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I absolutely love Cookman Avenue because it still has a classic look with character. But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been renovated. It says nothing at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip mall, but that's just me. I greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been eliminated and that nobody is taking MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of space destined for failure., On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there, because bicycling by the sea really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City, Cape May, and scores of similar places across the country. My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country, in fact, AP is a safe haven away from it because it's my home. Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm probably the most immature 47 year old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the teenage me. I'm more about aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees. I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working overseas, where they tend to value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then rebuild, and when they do rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before. Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country. We don't build buildings to last anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of money. And I think that's a great loss. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: once again, my unpopular I heart AP response. for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now. Perhaps it doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live now, not
[AsburyPark] This Party Tonight Has Something For Everybody
Tonight being Friday in case you don't get this email until tomorrow like Chris McCarthy, Mattison Park is the place to be. Starting the night from 8 to 10 PM, ArtsCap is having a Wine Tasting at Mattison Park's new Underground Lounge called The Vault (649 Mattison Ave.) with photographer Alan Barnett ($20 suggested donation). Following this worthy event, The Vault transforms back into Tranny's Kitchen, my Dungeon of Glam with no cover charge. Live entertainment from local artists including at midnight, the Midnight Band Series Featuring: The Cockwalkers This hideaway is the perfect melting place for the unusually modish in Asbury to get down and party together. Anything goes in Tranny's Kitchen. All are welcome. Check IT out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Oops!
Pardone moi! I forgot to sign off. xoxox Geena 710 Poodle Parkway. Apt 2 aka the new home of Honey the gorgeous Golden Retriever and rage-a-holic, Patrick Nash (apt. 1), who exploded into my house unannounced and uninvited, screaming profanities at my guests and I in the presence of a 3 yr old baby girl. Please welcome my latest offender and possible Tourette's victim, Patrick into the neighborhood! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
I'll post this again: http://nicoleatkinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sweet-home-new- orleans.html Thoughts? You work at the Saint. What IS the music scene like there in town now? Is there a way for the musicians and club owners to work together to nurture a scene, independent from government or big business help/interference? If yes, why isn't it happening? What would it take? You've mentioned Austin. The city council didn't create the scene there. The Clifford Antones of the world did. Plus that's a college town. The audience is always around. How do you nurture a scene in a region from which the young tend to flee? And is the boardwalk the only thoroughfare on which it can happen? MM doesn't run the show on Main Street. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: You know what? I make no apologies about my opinions of AP. I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it. I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have, and once had. I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel bad at all in saying it. Sorry. Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's better then it was in recent years, but nothing like what it could be. And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once again, since I work in the business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could be, but it's the best that it can be at the moment. Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection to the city. His most famous album is callled Greetings from Asbury Park and the album cover is a classic post card from it's heyday. He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no longer exist. His name is inextricably associated with the city. We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that. You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment and being so close to the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of Convention Hall and the acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I absolutely love Cookman Avenue because it still has a classic look with character. But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been renovated. It says nothing at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip mall, but that's just me. I greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been eliminated and that nobody is taking MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of space destined for failure., On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there, because bicycling by the sea really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City, Cape May, and scores of similar places across the country. My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country, in fact, AP is a safe haven away from it because it's my home. Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm probably the most immature 47 year old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the teenage me. I'm more about aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees. I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working overseas, where they tend to value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then rebuild, and when they do rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before. Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country. We don't build buildings to last anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of money. And I think that's a great loss. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Bartender Mix-Off
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[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
The Saint has a great scene. We have a core of locals, and lot's of people who come from places as far as NYC, Brooklyn and PA to attend our shows. Last Saturday, we had a packed house when Val Emmich played. He's been on Ugly Betty and 30 Rock a few times. There is a core underground AP music movement, and a good place to find out more is at this website: http://asburymusician.ning.com/ But the interesting thing in the AP music scene, which is probably pretty common, is that it can be very cliquish without much cross pollination. This is probably because most of our venues pretty much have their own niche, such as Asbury Lanes is very into garage rock and really cool specialty shows, the Saint is more intimate and local, The Wonder Bar is more mainstream and safe, although the shows they did while the Pony was closed were a real departure from what normally happens there. It's good that there's something for almost everybody, but it's just not quite the way it was back in the 80's, but I guess nothing really is any more. Back then, the local music scene was so much more exciting, with lots more clubs and much more club hopping. And we had a very prominent radio station, WHTG, which held it all together. They were pretty visionary, and the now famous Matt Pinfield was a major DJ there. Local bands got lots of airplay and interview time. Back then, radio was pretty much king, where now the internet is king. It was easier for working people back then to just keep WHTG on all day, which was common all across the local music scene. Everybody listened to it. Now, the main delivery method is the internet, which is a pretty short attention span medium, and I truly believe that it's had both a positive and negative effect on local music. The positive is that it's so much easier to spread the word about your band, but the competition is much more fierce when you have so many bands promoting themselves, compared to one cohesive radio station holding our attention. The funny thing is we are so close to Monmouth University, but I don't really see many MU people coming out to AP shows. They are more likely to go to cover band bars and a certain place on Brighton Ave. in LB. But, times have really changed. It's more expensive to go out to shows these days, and some people balk at paying a $10 admission and $6 beer, which can become an pretty expensive night out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 sandpipe...@... wrote: I'll post this again: http://nicoleatkinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sweet-home-new- orleans.html Thoughts? You work at the Saint. What IS the music scene like there in town now? Is there a way for the musicians and club owners to work together to nurture a scene, independent from government or big business help/interference? If yes, why isn't it happening? What would it take? You've mentioned Austin. The city council didn't create the scene there. The Clifford Antones of the world did. Plus that's a college town. The audience is always around. How do you nurture a scene in a region from which the young tend to flee? And is the boardwalk the only thoroughfare on which it can happen? MM doesn't run the show on Main Street. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You know what? I make no apologies about my opinions of AP. I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it. I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have, and once had. I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel bad at all in saying it. Sorry. Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's better then it was in recent years, but nothing like what it could be. And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once again, since I work in the business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could be, but it's the best that it can be at the moment. Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection to the city. His most famous album is callled Greetings from Asbury Park and the album cover is a classic post card from it's heyday. He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no longer exist. His name is inextricably associated with the city. We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that. You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment and being so close to the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of Convention Hall and the acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I absolutely love Cookman Avenue because it still has a classic look with character. But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been renovated. It says nothing at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip mall, but that's
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: The Saint has a great scene. When we were in HS and College (we're the same age) we had the original Saint - The Clover Club. 2fers, cheap beer and kamikaze pitchers. They had a pool table I can sit here and recall the ride from sea bright to Belmar and once in while- dumps in Brick,Point or Seaside. In those days Long Branch we had the Pier. Frat nights for free or $1. I never heard of a cosmoHeinekens were a treat as was stealing cases of st pauli girls from my friends grandfathers garage in deal... College was real easy. We just made the drinking age of 18. How much do you think that killed the scene. You drank and drove but had brains, right? You got stopped - you pretty much would be told to go home. Not just the drinking age laws - but the promos as well - 2 fer 1, free booze hours, ladies free, and a hell lot more bands that were either free or what I thought was cheap. How much was booze? The boathouse was the rescue and we had .75 lowenbrau mugs... The MU kids now try to party at home with closed blinds so they don't get raided It's not yesterday - it's today. Times are different and the laws have changed. As have many peoples spending habits... and at MU, according to my dad, they dropped about 250 kids from the spring semester - above average drop rate. Could be tied to parents $. Do the kids at MU really care about Springsteen? Or will they go where their friends are or where THEY know or hop in a car and go to AC or NYC... or hang in the basement of that rented house in ocean with the kegs running? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: The Saint has a great scene. When we were in HS and College (we're the same age) we had the original Saint - The Clover Club. 2fers, cheap beer and kamikaze pitchers. They had a pool table I can sit here and recall the ride from sea bright to Belmar and once in while- dumps in Brick,Point or Seaside. In those days Long Branch we had the Pier. Frat nights for free or $1. I never heard of a cosmoHeinekens were a treat as was stealing cases of st pauli girls from my friends grandfathers garage in deal... College was real easy. We just made the drinking age of 18. How much do you think that killed the scene. You drank and drove but had brains, right? You got stopped - you pretty much would be told to go home. Not just the drinking age laws - but the promos as well - 2 fer 1, free booze hours, ladies free, and a hell lot more bands that were either free or what I thought was cheap. How much was booze? The boathouse was the rescue and we had .75 lowenbrau mugs... The MU kids now try to party at home with closed blinds so they don't get raided It's not yesterday - it's today. Times are different and the laws have changed. As have many peoples spending habits... and at MU, according to my dad, they dropped about 250 kids from the spring semester - above average drop rate. Could be tied to parents $. Do the kids at MU really care about Springsteen? Or will they go where their friends are or where THEY know or hop in a car and go to AC or NYC... or hang in the basement of that rented house in ocean with the kegs running? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. Now you're asking for alot. No cell phones, no digital cameras so no drunk facebook pics. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music ..exactly - just once in awhile my kid will blast it - but that and thousands of other choices on the iPod. Not a couple cassettes stuck in your car. at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. And I miss the Criterion girls and Kohr's girls. It used to be so easy to barter. You want a tab and fries? Free ice cream? no problem. I got sweedish fish,taffy, Kohrs shakes and a few other dates here and there wathcing those summer students from up north guzzling long island ice teas and doing shots. then off to Xandau... Life changes. Now I'm looking to barter adspace for an apartment in NYC. See if this works. The CC was a classic. Bring that back and camarano's in Long branch... I'll end it now. When you hit the megamill, let me know. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Forget Bruce. How about Mickey Rourke?
Ho hum ho hum. Part of a Golden Globe flick partially filmed in AP. Stills on Fox movie site with some stills of Rourke etc walking the BW and sitting on CH. There are some little things that you can capitalize on on - even if for a brief moment in time. Take the cheap and free pr and run with it, no? Asbury Park mayor is proud to have this film Asbury Park and it's unique Convention Hall and boardwalk used once again for scenes in... Or should it be asbury park's once grand casino and carousel house used as section of abandoned casino building in Grand Theft Auto series.. eeny meeny... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Here's an interesting tidbit about Criterion Chocolates. The factor has pretty much always been in Eatontown, and the original candy maker was a cranky German guy named Adolph Shultz He was a mechanical genius, and hand built all of the crazy candy making machines that still exist in the factory. This included a cooling tunnel exactly like the one in the famous I Love Lucy sketch, which had the same type of conveyor belt and women hand picking them. That was pretty much the best smelling place I ever worked at. Huge vats of molten milk and dark chocolate. Yum. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. Now you're asking for alot. No cell phones, no digital cameras so no drunk facebook pics. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music ..exactly - just once in awhile my kid will blast it - but that and thousands of other choices on the iPod. Not a couple cassettes stuck in your car. at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. And I miss the Criterion girls and Kohr's girls. It used to be so easy to barter. You want a tab and fries? Free ice cream? no problem. I got sweedish fish,taffy, Kohrs shakes and a few other dates here and there wathcing those summer students from up north guzzling long island ice teas and doing shots. then off to Xandau... Life changes. Now I'm looking to barter adspace for an apartment in NYC. See if this works. The CC was a classic. Bring that back and camarano's in Long branch... I'll end it now. When you hit the megamill, let me know. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Forget Bruce. How about Mickey Rourke?
The name of that movie was Home Boy When they were shooting it, they built a temporary carnival over in Ocean Grove. In Bruce's Tunnel of Love video, you can see it in the background as he's walking along the beach. Also, Debbie Gibson shot her Only in my Dreams video on our beach, and Skid Row did one in the rotting Casino. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: Ho hum ho hum. Part of a Golden Globe flick partially filmed in AP. Stills on Fox movie site with some stills of Rourke etc walking the BW and sitting on CH. There are some little things that you can capitalize on on - even if for a brief moment in time. Take the cheap and free pr and run with it, no? Asbury Park mayor is proud to have this film Asbury Park and it's unique Convention Hall and boardwalk used once again for scenes in... Or should it be asbury park's once grand casino and carousel house used as section of abandoned casino building in Grand Theft Auto series.. eeny meeny... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Forget Bruce. How about Mickey Rourke?
Oh, I'm talking about the earlier movie with Rourke shot in the 80's. Many of my friends were extras in it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: The name of that movie was Home Boy When they were shooting it, they built a temporary carnival over in Ocean Grove. In Bruce's Tunnel of Love video, you can see it in the background as he's walking along the beach. Also, Debbie Gibson shot her Only in my Dreams video on our beach, and Skid Row did one in the rotting Casino. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Ho hum ho hum. Part of a Golden Globe flick partially filmed in AP. Stills on Fox movie site with some stills of Rourke etc walking the BW and sitting on CH. There are some little things that you can capitalize on on - even if for a brief moment in time. Take the cheap and free pr and run with it, no? Asbury Park mayor is proud to have this film Asbury Park and it's unique Convention Hall and boardwalk used once again for scenes in... Or should it be asbury park's once grand casino and carousel house used as section of abandoned casino building in Grand Theft Auto series.. eeny meeny... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
The only pictures that I can find of The Clover Club: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: The Saint has a great scene. When we were in HS and College (we're the same age) we had the original Saint - The Clover Club. 2fers, cheap beer and kamikaze pitchers. They had a pool table I can sit here and recall the ride from sea bright to Belmar and once in while- dumps in Brick,Point or Seaside. In those days Long Branch we had the Pier. Frat nights for free or $1. I never heard of a cosmoHeinekens were a treat as was stealing cases of st pauli girls from my friends grandfathers garage in deal... College was real easy. We just made the drinking age of 18. How much do you think that killed the scene. You drank and drove but had brains, right? You got stopped - you pretty much would be told to go home. Not just the drinking age laws - but the promos as well - 2 fer 1, free booze hours, ladies free, and a hell lot more bands that were either free or what I thought was cheap. How much was booze? The boathouse was the rescue and we had .75 lowenbrau mugs... The MU kids now try to party at home with closed blinds so they don't get raided It's not yesterday - it's today. Times are different and the laws have changed. As have many peoples spending habits... and at MU, according to my dad, they dropped about 250 kids from the spring semester - above average drop rate. Could be tied to parents $. Do the kids at MU really care about Springsteen? Or will they go where their friends are or where THEY know or hop in a car and go to AC or NYC... or hang in the basement of that rented house in ocean with the kegs running? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Forget Bruce. How about Mickey Rourke?
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: Part of a Golden Globe flick partially filmed in AP. Stills on Fox movie site with some stills of Rourke. I was looking on IMDb for Exit 102 but instead found 60 matching titles for Asbury Park locations, including one in production for 2010, Asbury Park at: http://tinyurl.com/8dbhcb http://tinyurl.com/8dbhcb Titles with locations including Asbury Park, New Jersey, USA http://www.imdb.com/List?endings=onlocations=Asbury%20Park,%20New%20J\ ersey,%20USAheading=18;with+locations+including;Asbury%20Park,%20New%2\ 0Jersey,%20USA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Know what? I'mm old enough to be both of your mothers, but I have the same attitude as YOU do! Nostalgia my you know what! Those were YOUR times, YOUR memories and I don't see a damn thing wrong with that! I can see it through your eyes, as I have kids your age, the whole WNEW thing, which coming out of the 60's, I would write the notes to Neptune High School allowing my kids to skip to be released for a once in a lifetime day! I received a phone call at my job, because the principal didn't believe I wrote it, (the note)! Yes, I was a regular drill sargeant at home, because with 5 kids, I didn't see why they couldn't keep order at home! My idea of a good time, was to pack the car and go up to Yankee Stadium to see a game or in the summer go to the Meadowlands for a Budweiser Beer Fest! I'm sure my kids thought I was a pain in the ass, more than once! I call it discipline! You only get one childhood, so why can't it be happy? Anyway, my kids still recall many of the group things we did together, especially since they didn't have to pay for anything! I've gotten early tans, because one of them was playing Babe Ruth Ball or driving to Delaware to see my youngest son run in college. Oak and Jack, I'm feeling BOTH of you and I'm on the same page as you! So what! Someone in this group always sees what others do or feel as insignificant because THEY can't relate, but trust me, I do and I'm glad you remember when the drinking age dropped to 18. Both of my sons could then meet up with us and have a drink on who? Us! Of course! Keep your memories close! Some of us can't relate, but damn it I do! I still party, have a good time and get my drunk on sometimes! At least I tell the truth! I never had the guts to go into the Haunted Mansion, but my scary girls went and came out all shook up! I laughed until I cried when I was told the rats ran across one daughters feet and she jumped on her brothers back for the rest of the ride! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] FW: Urgent Action Alert: STOP Insanity Island!
FYI Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 From: Outreach (Clean Ocean Action) [mailto:outre...@cleanoceanaction.org] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:42 PM To: outre...@cleanoceanaction.org Subject: Urgent Action Alert: STOP Insanity Island! http://www.CleanOceanAction.org Clean Ocean Action http://www.CleanOceanAction.org Clean Ocean Action http://www.CleanOceanAction.org Home http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=2 About COA http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=126 Help Your Ocean http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=125 Action Alerts http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=91 Issues Campaigns http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=153 Beach Sweeps http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/index.php?id=84 Education Programs STOP INSANITY ISLAND! The 140-acre man-made island proposed off the Jersey Shore Long Island http://cleanoceanaction.org/lists/email_images/Future%20NYNJ%20COAST_web.JPG Speak Out Defend Our Ocean: Public Meeting – Tuesday, January 27, 2009 Open house 4:30-6pm Public speaking/meeting 6-8pm The Sheraton of Eatontown, 6 Industrial Way East, Eatontown, NJ 07724 Public Meeting – Thursday, January 29, 2009 Open house 4:30-6pm Public speaking/meeting 6-8pm Public Library, 111 West Park Avenue, Long Beach, NY 11561 The Atlantic Sea Island Group is planning to build a massive industrial complex in the ocean for the importation of LNG (liquefied natural gas). The private company has no experience in LNG operations or offshore construction. The project THREATENS: * American energy independence * Our environment * Our wallets * Our way of life http://cleanoceanaction.org/lists/email_images/LNGTankerforWeb.jpg LNG tankers are up to nearly four football fields in length DIRTY DETAILS ABOUT INSANITY ISLAND: * 14 times the size of Giants Stadium * Made with 14 million tons of fill – 10 times the volume of the Empire State Building * Marine life and habitat will be killed and destroyed * 19 miles from Sea Bright, NJ and 13 miles from Long Beach, NY LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) IS UN-AMERICAN: * LNG is a foreign fossil fuel from volatile sources like Russia, the Middle East, and Africa. * LNG is dirty -- up to 40% dirtier than American natural gas and it will increase carbon dioxide emissions and climate change. * American sources of natural gas are cheaper and plentiful—enough to meet our needs for 120 years. California, Connecticut, and New York have rejected LNG projects off their coasts. Our Governors must reject them here, too. New Jersey and New York must choose green and renewable domestic energy that creates thousands of good, sustainable jobs. Keep us free from LNG! ***MORE INFORMATION AND OTHER WAYS TO TAKE ACTION*** * Talking points about Insanity Island LNG: http://www.CleanOceanAction.org www.CleanOceanAction.org or 732-872-0111 * Project application: http://www.regulations.gov http://www.regulations.gov (type docket number USCG-2007-28535) * Send written comments to the Docket Management Facility by February 9, 2009 (include Docket number USCG-2007-28535, your name and address) via: * Website: http://www.regulations.gov http://www.regulations.gov * Fax: 202-493-2251 (confirm receipt by telephone at 202-366-9329) * Mail: Department of Transportation, Docket Management Facility, West Building, Ground Floor, Room W12-140, 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, Washington, DC 20590-0001. ***This message is from The Wave, Clean Ocean Action’s exclusive action alert system that provides critical alerts about ocean pollution issues and ways to take action to protect your ocean.*** Clean Ocean Action * 18 Hartshorne Drive, Suite 2 * Highlands, NJ 07732 732-872-0111 * mailto:sandyh...@cleanoceanaction.org sandyh...@cleanoceanaction.org * http://www.cleanoceanaction.org/ www.cleanoceanaction.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
