"I also think your perception about ap is
off"
How can you judge somebody else's perception?
That's kinda ridiculous.
Not everybody sees the world thru your eyes.
Sorry, but I disagree.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <gabrielleo...@...> wrote:
>
> I certainly wasn't looking for an apology. People can be as unhappy as
> they wish. Lots of people live the "things would be better if..."
> life. I just think its kinda sad and I will reiterate it has more to
> do with us than the world. I also think your perception about ap is
> off and would like others to know that there is a tremendous amount to
> enjoy and love here. There are plenty of posts about ap's failings.
>
> i am probably ignorant about springsteen, i mostly listen to lesser
> known artists. Loved him when I was 11. springsteen is a tiny drop in
> a sea of great music. and he hardly needs the attention.
>
> It also seems sorta pointless to complain here. You should be at city
> council meetings. Volunteering for commissions.
>
> In my experience, the people who complain the most (and i don't just
> mean here) are those that don't participate in the vibrancy of the
> place; the food, the nightlife, the celebrations.
>
> people are enjoying it and will probably continue to do so. I wish you
> and the others for whom delight is so out of reach would but that's up
> to you. the world will never mold to our own ego's specifications so
> our choice is to become open loving participants, try to become a
> power mongering tyrant, or be miserable. not a difficult choice for
> me. (and i love a little dissatisfaction myself once in a while...all
> egos do).
>
> I hope others make it to the economical entertainment on the 31st. And
> paradise is always a great place to have ...dare i say it, FUN!
>
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > You know what?
> > I make no apologies about my opinions of AP.
> > I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it.
> > I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could have,
> and once had.
> > I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't feel
> bad at all in saying it.
> > Sorry.
> > Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did. It's
> better then it was in
> > recent years, but nothing like what it could be.
> > And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but once
> again, since I work in the
> > business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what it could
> be, but it's the best that it
> > can be at the moment.
> > Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his connection
> to the city.
> > His most famous album is callled "Greetings from Asbury Park" and
> the album cover is a
> > classic post card from it's heyday.
> > He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which no
> longer exist. His name is
> > inextricably associated with the city.
> > We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing wrong
> with expressing that.
> > You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic apartment
> and being so close to
> > the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of
> Convention Hall and the
> > acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I
> absolutely love Cookman
> > Avenue because it still has a classic look with character.
> > But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have been
> renovated. It says nothing
> > at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a strip
> mall, but that's just me. I
> > greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been eliminated and
> that nobody is taking
> > MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of space
> destined for failure.,
> > On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there, because
> bicycling by the sea
> > really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City, Cape May,
> and scores of similar
> > places across the country.
> > My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country, in
> fact, AP is a safe haven
> > away from it because it's my home.
> > Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm probably the
> most immature 47 year
> > old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the teenage
> me. I'm more about
> > aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees.
> > I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working overseas,
> where they tend to
> > value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then
> rebuild, and when they do
> > rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before.
> > Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country. We don't
> build buildings to last
> > anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of money.
> And I think that's
> > a great loss.
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <gabrielleobre@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > once again, my unpopular I heart AP response.
> > >
> > > for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now. Perhaps it
> > > doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live now, not
> > > 20, 30 years ago. And the comments I have been hearing from people the
> > > past few summers actually reflect that ap does stir good memories, not
> > > sure how many of you spend time in the local bizes, but I do. I hear
> > > it. I can't wait to check out the Stone Pony. English Beat..yippee.
> > >
> > > Its not all "high end" anything. I think there are two design like
> > > stores that are out of the average persons pay range, so what,
> > > everyone is supposed to live on my budget? good for those who can buy
> > > an 800$ chaise. and wonderful for the retail owners who can pay their
> > > rent with it. this is monmouth county, there is lots of $$ here, let
> > > them spend it in AP.
> > >
> > > O'tools is reasonable, that fried food place in CH is reasonable there
> > > were all sorts of little knick knack shops that remind me precisely of
> > > what was BW like years ago.
> > >
> > > On the 31st you can sample cocktails for 5 bucks in CH, bring a flask
> > > if you need more of a buzz, then you can walk down to paradise and if
> > > you get there before 9 ish you can dance for free. and be entertained
> > > if you are prone to enjoyment. they usually have drink specials.
> > > langostas menu looks reasonable and the space is beautiful (someone
> > > mentioned they were packed last sat)
> > >
> > > the mini waterpark looks like loads of fun, the numerous festivals
> > > that come are a blast, thinking of the beautiful kite one at the
> > > moment, volleyball, road trip etc. there is regularly free music on
> > > the BW.
> > >
> > > for someone who mentioned somewhere else they are sick of negativity,
> > > you dish it out a lot Jack. is there anything you like about the
> place?
> > >
> > > as far as the Bruce thing goes, what's the connection other than he
> > > sung about how depressed the place was? I don't need to romanticize
> > > the badlands anymore.
> > >
> > > is it perfect? no way. but neither is anything else. I really wish
> > > people would stop bitching about the place which often seems to me
> > > people projecting their general unhappiness onto the world around
> > > them. what you see in the world has more to do with what is in your
> > > head than what is in the world.
> > >
> > > its so weird to me, everything you want is already here. except
> > > perhaps the teenage you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The wnew stuff was only around for a few years- one day. Yep -
> we'd
> > > > make a killing in a few hours, but NOTHING like being able to
> open at
> > > > 7am and close around midnight, at least in my time. If a big
> group came
> > > > into town and it was hot - we'd just stay open as long as we
> could -
> > > > not close at 9pm.
> > > >
> > > > That's how you run a business that relies on hot weather and
> more - you
> > > > open early and stay open late and you can't do it alone. If someone
> > > > needs to hit a golf ball, play for stuffed animal or share a
> kohr's as
> > > > it dribbles down your body or ride a carousel or just sit and
> look at
> > > > the water or lay in the sand - it's called summer. You stay open at
> > > > NIGHT, so people can spend money. Junk food = profit.
> > > >
> > > > It's 11 degrees.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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