Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is Fasano good or bad for AP?
--- Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can honestly say that now that i've done some reasearch into Pat Fasano and his involvement not just in Asbury, but other places, i'm fully behind him. It was nice to see him at our 2 wonderful events at the Baronet this weekend, and i'd love to see more people that post here attend future events that we host. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Hinge wrote: I work at the Baronet, and I can assure you this, i know much more about Mr. Fasano now, and I truely believe he is good for our city. We need more people like him here. Thank you. Put it this way... if Asbury Park had more people like Pat Fasano it would be a thriving city right now instead of in the middle of redevelopment. He gets things done. Maybe that's why some people on the Council don't like him. They'd prefer redevelopment takes 20 years... Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is Fasano good or bad for AP?
HERE HERE!!! THE FOLKS AT THE BARONET ARE REALLY DOING SOME GREAT THINGS LATELY!!! I HOPE EVERYONE COMES OUT TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR EFFORTS TO PUT ASBURY BACK ON THE MAP AS A GREAT FUN PLACE. I WAS AT THE HOT ROD SHOW THE 19th AT THE FAST LANE AND ALONG W/THE GREAT BANDS THERE AS WELL AS THE THEME MOVIES AT THE BARONET AND THE DUBS PLAYING THERE, IT WAS A GREAT. COOL FUN EVENT!!! HOPE THE PARTNERS GET BEHIND THESE FOLKS, CUZ THESE ARE THE PEOPLE REALLY DOING SOMETHING NOW TO REINVIGORATE ASBURY, AND CAN HELP IT RETURN TO (SOMETHING OF) IT'S FORMER GLORY IN THE FUTURE. I JUST HOPE THAT FUTURE IS NOT ALL JUST CONDOS HOTELS, BUT RIDES, AMUSEMENTS, ART, MUSIC, FILM, THEATRE, THE OCEAN, THE BOARDS, AND FUN STUFF FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES AS WELL!!! AND HOPE THEY DONT BLOCK ALL THE OCEAN VIEWS AS WELL!! -al --- Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can honestly say that now that i've done some reasearch into Pat Fasano and his involvement not just in Asbury, but other places, i'm fully behind him. It was nice to see him at our 2 wonderful events at the Baronet this weekend, and i'd love to see more people that post here attend future events that we host. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Hinge wrote: I work at the Baronet, and I can assure you this, i know much more about Mr. Fasano now, and I truely believe he is good for our city. We need more people like him here. Thank you. Put it this way... if Asbury Park had more people like Pat Fasano it would be a thriving city right now instead of in the middle of redevelopment. He gets things done. Maybe that's why some people on the Council don't like him. They'd prefer redevelopment takes 20 years... Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: A Man's Beach Bungalow is his Castle, Under Seige by Developers
If we can reach out to this guy, we should show him our support for him AND OTHERS LIKE HIM THAT're TRYING TO TELL FOLKS TO WAKE UP BEFORE NOTHING IS LEFT!! MORE POWER TO MR. G!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE!! -al --- Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Rosen accused Mr. George of protecting the bungalows simply to preserve his income as a landlord. He buys these bungalows for dirt cheap, and he's lining his pockets by running the biggest scam, he said. Here you have developers bringing millions of dollars into the neighborhood, and he's killing their projects and making them want to walk away. He said he was suing Mr. George for malicious prosecution of my client. I'll take all the bungalows if I win, he said. Most of them are garbage anyway. They're shacks. Mr. George dismissed Mr. Rosen's claims. If money was my motivation, I'd want the project built because it would increase my property value, he said. I'm not antidevelopment; only when it discriminates against everyone else living around it. Disgusting, isn't it? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/osyxe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Traffic light on corner of Deal Lake Drive and Park Ave
GOOD POINT!! I'VE ALSO SEEN LIGHTS CONTROLLED SO THAT AFTER A CERTAIN EVENING HOUR, THE LIGHT ON THE MAIN DRAG WOULD STAY GREEN, AND ONLY TURN WHEN A CAR APPROACHED IN THE CROSS-STREET. THIS ALSO SAVES FUEL, AND TIME WAITING FOR A LIGHT WHEN NO TRAFFIC CAN BE SEEN, ASIDE FROM THE IMPORTANT EFFICIENCY AND SAFETY REASONS. GOOD IDEAS! -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹ve often thought that the lights should be one of the first things fixed as I think they help promote the image of the town as a scary place. There is nothing scarier for someone new to the area than being stuck at one of those lights at night for a very, very long time (when no other cars are nearby). Solution, after midnight selected intersections have blinking red lights and become stop signs. Some intersections can be four-waystop signs. That can be adjusted (assuming they are centrally controlled, which one would think would be the case with the infrastructure improvements) when there are events and seasonally. I think I noticed traffic cameras above some of the new poles on Kingsley. How about at each intersection. Money - yes. Crime deterent, efficiency - oh yes. Cheaper in the long haul. The problem is there is really no one in charge. We need a short-term dictator/emperor for this city. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AP has one of the shortest time limits
KEEP FIGHTIN' TO GET THAT 'AIR TIME' BACK REV!!! -al --- noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the Asbury park Press left out is that up until recently we had a seperate public portion after all the city business was accomplished. It was the last thing on the agenda, it was our time. 11 months ago Councilman Giordano struck the public portion from the agenda and made us speak co mingled with the resolutions hearing. In many cases, if not all we have 15 - 20 resolutions on the agenda for vote. How can we ask abou these legislative resolutions and comment all within the restricted time. We at PLUS Please Let Us Speak. are asking that the City Council restore The Public Portion on the agenda. It has become apparent that city officials who are afraid of public comment have something to hide from the public. Schneider and Destefano's position about talking privately to them outside the on the record scope has not worked for us here, because they will tell us what we want to hear, privately. Often times reverseing and denying what was told an individual in the future. I am sorry to say the level of trust for our elected and appointed officials is at an all time low. Rev. Kevin Brown __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Tom Waits on Fourth Ave.
THAT'S A GREAT SHOT!! ESP. W/C.H. IN D BKGROUND!! I'M KEEPIN' A COPY...HOPE IT'S OK! NICE COMP! -al --- A.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, thats an RC piece. --- Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/06 7:46 PM, Heshy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What creative soul stenciled this image on one of the concrete drainage duct segments between Kingsley and the boardwalk? http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/TheHesh/waitsap.jpg That looks like the work of Rich Cali, former owner of Coffee Blue in Belmar. He used to have that as a print and was a devoted Tom Waits fan. -Gary Upstage Magazine __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury!
If you send me emails in support of your point of view, I may as well tell you I dont necessarily think the shelter is a bad idea, but I would support a measure giving it a 'wait-and-see' approach or a temporary OK, say, for 6 mos. or so, in order to determine if they will be a good neighbor or if they will be 'good' or 'bad' for Asbury in general, and a way in which their lease or whatever can be reviewed after a certain length of time, and rescinded if the PEOPLE of Asbury (and not JUST storeowners) think their presence is doing the town that great a disservice. That way they will have at least a chance to prove their worth if they can do so. I think a legal battle BEFORE THE FACT is not the right way to go, so I would naturally not support one, and would voice my opinion to others against such action. Everything is LITIGATE in this country, how about TALKING FIRST?? -A. Mc Daniel --- paulvail1964 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night Councilman Ed Johnson announced that the council will instruct the city attorneys to draw up an amicus brief in support of our appeal against the Market Street Mission. I also want to point out that councilman John Loffredo has supported our efforts from the beginning and was instrumental in getting a council majority. These two men clearly stand up for Asbury. The consensus of the council was not unanimous. Councilman Keady made it clear last night that he supports the Market Street Mission's homeless shelter and soup kitchen on Asbury Avenue. We continue raising funds for our appeal. Please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to contribute. Paul Vail 511 Second __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park: Haves and Have-Nots by the Sea
HERE HERE!! -a --- oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can things be equalized ? Begin some more serius attempts to rebuild the West side and incorporate equal housing on the east side Article last week about how long branchtook $2m in COAH credits from Colts Neck (this is where rich towns can give away the low income housing obligations to other towns to build the low income housing. Nice loophole for towns to avoid their local obilgations. Imagine a development on the West Side that catered to ALL people that was affordable and SAFE. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] STAND UP FOR ASBURY!
What's so bad about it? I'm thinking if the council is agin' it then I'm probably FOR IT!!! Same for the zoning conspiracy. -Al --- paulvail1964 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By now we all know what the Market Street Mission Homeless Shelter / Soup Kitchen is about. Some support it, the vast majority rejects it - including our city counsel and zoning board. However, there is nothing more the city can do. A judge in Freehold has decided that the City of Asbury Park has no say in this matter. STAND UP FOR ASBURY says that this judge is wrong! Stand Up For Asbury is hiring Zoning / Land Use Attorney Ronald Gasiorowski of Red Bank to review transcripts of the Zoning Board hearings and the ensuing court case to determine how and if an appeal should be filed against the variances issued to the Market Street Mission. TIME IS RUNNING OUT! Asbury Park needs you. Please email me privately if you would like to pledge your support. Thanks Paul Vail 511 Second Ave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-934-2752 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Finally - Someone Gets It
i dont think HE does, but there is a core group of INTELLIGENT, THOUGHTFUL FOLKS THAT CARE, and some that would like to make some $$, and/or see the town get its due, but in a way that preserves its character and its class and its past, and allows the town to have pride in itself again. WE NEED TO TAKE THIS CORE GROUP AND multiply it by 100 or so, get the word out, even about this Yahoo group. Then plan things, go to meetings, plan events, allow an avenue for the residents and those that care to get involved and have their voices heard. To get vocal and get this group IN THEIR FACE as it were, and force them to take notice. That's what I'd LIKE to see anyway H. Wonder how much a billboard would cost? JJ gave me a great idea tho... I'm thinking of making a movie, in and around ABOUT AP, past present AND FUTURE, and I see you and a lot of the folks here as a ready-made library of knowlege and ideas on the subject of the town and its founders, characters, etc, both past and present!! I'm speaking to some folks about it tonite in fact. We'll see what develops. -al --- Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen, what makes you think The Fishman has any interest in the feelings of Asbury's residents? This is a smash and grab development; The Fish's soul intent is to maximize his return on a thirty year option to grab property at 2001 prices; even if he had the talent or skills necessary to realize greater profit through additional spending, that's not a game he knows, so he safely plays the one he's good at robber baron. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Nashville band gets Asbury Park...
JJ: Thanks for the great link, I loved it! Also gave me a great idea about possibly doing a movie, prob. a short or documentary, on AP. -al --- jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen's post about the carousel reminded me of this video: http://music.yahoo.com/video/default.asp?vid=2171595 I've recently become a fan of country music. A Nashville band called Rascal Flatts shot a video for their song Feels Like Today in Asbury Park last year. Notice the touches this band added to the decrepit landscape: namely a carousel a guy walking around taking pictures. It's amazing how little Duh Partners care about Asbury's legacy. The fifth summer season they've had control of the boardwalk, and all we get is an arcade a few beer joints. And yet, they plan to sell condos to a year round community. Do they honestly believe people will drop a half million dollars so they can go get tuned up at Deep Blue Atomic Cadillac Ranch? Yeah, that's a great place to take the grandkids! Oak: what would it take to get a permit from Duh Partners to sell photos of lovers as they stroll the boardwalk? I think we may have found our next million! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Kudos for Condos
Yeah, I see a rebuilt and restored gem of history and family entertainment in MY vision,...I call it the PALACE!! You should SEE IT! It FAB!! -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote from today's APP: You guys had a vision five years ago and it's coming true, Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners, told Loffredo. You had a lot of perseverance. Yes, Larry, people will actually build something if you let them. All except you and your half-assed outfit. The council had a vision 5 years ago of restored waterfront buildings, where are they? Besides having visions, they hear voices too. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Nashville band gets Asbury Park...
W: So HOW can we GET THE WORD AND THE TRUTH OUT TO THEM, AS WELL AS ENCOURAGE THEM TO get involved in the future of THEIR TOWN?? Billboards? A show or benefit w/some sort of activist component or disseminating of info?? How can we raise the consciousness and invite ACTION?? Or should we just concentrate on either getting ON the council or influencing those in power that already are trying to do something GOOD regarding SAVING (literally) the town?? -al --- wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The responsibility is directly with the Council. The Partners operate with the consent of the governing body and this entire dysfunctional redevelopment is the fault of the Council. Too bad the majority of the property owners and tax payers have no knowledge of what the facts are. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's amazing how little Duh Partners care about Asbury's legacy. The fifth summer season they've had control of the boardwalk, and all we get is an arcade a few beer joints. And yet, they plan to sell condos to a year round community. Do they honestly believe people will drop a half million dollars so they can go get tuned up at Deep Blue Atomic Cadillac Ranch? Yeah, that's a great place to take the grandkids! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Spa for sale
I dunno- I LIKE FREE ANYTHING, ESP. PARKING. If I was driving down rte 35 say, and saw a BIG SIGN that said, 'COME TO ASBURY, WHERE BEACH PARKING IS STILL FREE', I think that might have an effect on my decision of what beach to go to. This is AN IMPORTANT ISSUE w/any impending construction/improvement/development. A 'season parking pass' at a discount and other avenues could also be explored, but DUH PARTNERS (I LIKE DAT) should be thinking about including AMPLE PARKING into new designs. Perhaps a dedicated 2 or 3 floor parking structure nearby, tho lots of buildings in crowded areas are incorporating a basement or top floor dedicated parking area into a lot of new buildings to avoid crowded on-street parking 'hunts' and avoid meters, time limits (hourly type), and folks otherwise parking (and getting tickets- a sure way to have folks NOT return) in residents' driveways, loading zones and other restricted areas. -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beach numbers did well even with the increase. From todays app Asbury beaches busier Everybody's saying it's the best Memorial Day ever, Asbury Park's commerce director, Thomas Gilmour, said Tuesday. Garrett Giberson, Asbury Park's director of public works, said the city made $25,200 in beach badge sales over the three-day weekend, compared with $16,000 for the whole month of May last year. Very encouraging. However, we probably let a few bucks go by letting 5th Ave and Asbury beaches be free for the weekend. I understand the decision that for the past few years free parking has been an amenity and quite possibly a draw to outsiders (along with our lower beach fees). Free beach parking is an anomoly at the Shore. I am not saying that it should not continue, but there would be nothing wrong with providing convenient and cheap (v. free) parking. Perhaps that would be a deterrent now. However, a rebuilt waterfront (which should have been done by now) would be more of a draw than free parking. Not trying to be negative. Every improvement is appreciated, but we could, and should, be so much further along. Kudos to getting Asbury Avenue open on time. Brian Grant returned my call a couple of weeks ago and said it would. The new interesection (at lest the roadway) looks good. Good job. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re:Booker Freezes Land Deals
Great idea! (Getting him on the air!) Wish I could get the station up here in Bergen Cty. -Al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan - Thanks for catching this. Saw Booker was trying to do this. Man, this is great. A real turning point for urban government. We've got to get Booker on Asbury Radio!! You saw Joan Whitlow's column on Faiella - I want my stuff back ? Maureen In a message dated 6/2/2006 3:59:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Triangle Redux From today's NYT. Newark finally gets its, how come AP doesn't? June 1, 2006 Booker Praises Freeze on No-Bid Sales of Newark Property By TINA KELLEY NEWARK, May 31 â A state judge has temporarily frozen the sales of city-owned properties that had not been offered for public bidding, a decision that Mayor-elect Cory Booker called a tremendous victory for all of Newark. Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 5 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Show 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/ Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Partners takes on a new retail partner
AT LEAST a carousel!! What happened to the old one? I must have missed that. I for one would like to see a large dedicated amusements center of SOME kind, and at least a FEW rides... -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they can stick a 100,000 sq ft dave and busters to draw thousands with 500k of retail (up from 450,000 sq ft which has been quoted for years) and a cheescake factory and a another bar or 2. They should throw in a carousel. At least the freegold mall has one. And it has Kohrs. The race track has a boardwalk. Are the stores in LB doing well? I ask in earnest. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Check out t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by ...
WE DO NEED MORE FARMERS! THEY'RE A DYING BREED! ESP. OUR AREA, WHICH USED TO BE ALL TRUCK FARMS, NOW BEING SOLD OFF AND CUT UP FOR CONDOS AT AN ALARMING RATE THAT THE ECO INFRASTRUCTURE (AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL) CAN'T HANDLE!-al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well time to be a vegetarian, i guess they'll do something to the veggies too. better start a farm. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] GREAT...AN AIDS CENTER...FOR 25 MISCREANTS........4 MILLION RAISED.......
for someone so 'spiritual', you sure are a judgemental, intolerant and compassion-less believer! Way to lump everyone together!! I guess the guy who gets aids from a transfusion or the kid who gets accidentally stuck w/a contaminated needle is in that same group? Maybe you should READ that Bible you're thumping a bit more. GOD is LOVE, REMEMBER? JESUS HEALED! -A --- mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The liberal leftees at it again.BY THE WAY.THE ASBURY POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS 1 MILLION BUCKS FOR NEW EQUIPMENT.THE DRUG DEALERS HAVE BETTER STUFF...WE NEED $250,000 FOR RECREATION PROGRAMSTHE KIDS HAVE NOTHING..NO AFFORDABLE HOUSINGNO WESTSIDE REDEVELOPEMENTILLEGAL WATERFRONT PLANS..EMINENT DOMAIN ABUSE..Hey...all you sissies..the welfare of a city of 17,000 takes precident over 25 sexual deviants who are going to face the wrath of D anyway.THIS CITY IS HOPELESS AND DUMB! THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE BOUNCED AND THE CITY ATTORNEY INDICTEDTHIS GUY KAEDING IS A FREAK..PERIOD! The politically correct idiots strike again..I support the police and children before faithless perverts... __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] New Jersey Music Hall of Fame
I dont know about what casino you're referring to, but I think we have WAAAY to many of them and PLENTY of venues for gaming as it is, including the lottery which many are making profits from, yet education still suffers and is always hurting for funding, and property and other taxes are stratospheric. More gambling wont help, those promises are seldom kept. As for the Museum, I agree Asbury would be a PERFECT place, not only for it's past and present importance MUSICALLY in NJ, but also to bring visitors and hence, dollars into the town to aid in its revitalization. God knows, music and its related businesses have been one of the few forces that have kept this town going ALL THIS TIME, AND DURING THE WORST TIME, AND COULD AND SHOULD PLAY A BIG BIG PART IN THE TOWNS HOPEFUL RENNAISANCE, THO I PERSONALLY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE MORE INTEREST IN THE AMUSEMENTS AND RIDES THAT HAVE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF THE JERSEY SHORE ECONOMY MAKE A BIG COMEBACK AND RESURGENCE IN ASBURY W/INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGY TO LURE FOLKS HERE INSTEAD OF 6 FLAGS, ETC. HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE COULD ALSO OFFER THEM GOOD, REASONABLE ACCOMODATIONS, A FAMILY FUN ATMOSPHERE, AS WELL AS GOOD DINING, AND A THRIVING ART AND MUSIC AND CULTURAL SCENE, AS WELL AS FUN FOR THE KIDS (AND BIG KIDS LIKE ME!) Another reason the PALACE (sob) COULD'VE BEEN AN IMPORTANT AND HISTORICAL HUB IN A UNIQUE, QUAINT AND INTERESTING AS WELL AS FUN AMUSEMENT CENTER AND TOURIST DESTINATION. THE CASINO COULD REALLY THRIVE AGAIN IF WE BUT HAVE THE WILL. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU OUT THERE REMEMBER THE BUMPER CARS AND CAROUSEL, AS WELL AS SKEE-BALL AND ALL THE COOL MACHINES IN THERE AT ONE TIME. BOY, HOW I MISS THAT, AND NO PLACE ELSE WAS LIKE IT!!!(MUCH LIKE THE PALACE, WHICH WAS TO ME, A SACRED PLACE, A SHRINE TO AMUSEMENTS AND ENTREPENEURSHIP and VISION and WONDER and IMAGINATION. ASBURY WAS THE BEST, LESS CROWED BUT MORE FUN THAN SEASIDE, AND WE HAD ALL THOSE GREAT CONCERTS (AND STILL DO) IN CONV. HALL! THE MORE WE PRESERVE OF THE 'OLD ASBURY' AND THE SPIRIT OF IT, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE, IMHO. NO ONE NOT WELL VERSED IN THE REAL SPIRIT OF WHAT WE WERE ONCE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KNOCK ANYTHING DOWN AND REDEVELOP IT INTO SOMETHING SOUL-LESS AND WITHOUT VISION. HEY YOU ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERETHINK 'BIG COASTER!!! THEN THINK... ASBURY!! And let's not lose the imagination and great minds that made Asbury such a beautiful place at one time, and hopefully, will again, but not w/out some major changes of direction and vision and imagination and PRESERVATION!! There, I've spouted off enough for now.-al --- David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were to ask musicians from the State of New Jersey if they'd rather see a New Jersey Hall of fame in the Meadowlands and having some kind of music museum as a side show or have a New Jersey Music Hall of Fame located in Asbury Park, dedicated to the talent from the Garden State that the world celebrates, I wonder what they would choose? If you were to ask the politicians of New Jersey the same question, we know what they choose. Give the NJMHOF the Casino and they will come! __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] New Jersey Music Hall of Fame
WHATTA DUMMY! Tho my comments still hold true, I see now (DUH!) you were saying to give THE Casino to the HOF MUsic Museum- H...could be a GREAT IDEA. Could wee still get some bumper cars in there tho? ;-) -not-too-swift al --- Allen McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont know about what casino you're referring to, but I think we have WAAAY to many of them and PLENTY of venues for gaming as it is, including the lottery which many are making profits from, yet education still suffers and is always hurting for funding, and property and other taxes are stratospheric. More gambling wont help, those promises are seldom kept. As for the Museum, I agree Asbury would be a PERFECT place, not only for it's past and present importance MUSICALLY in NJ, but also to bring visitors and hence, dollars into the town to aid in its revitalization. God knows, music and its related businesses have been one of the few forces that have kept this town going ALL THIS TIME, AND DURING THE WORST TIME, AND COULD AND SHOULD PLAY A BIG BIG PART IN THE TOWNS HOPEFUL RENNAISANCE, THO I PERSONALLY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE MORE INTEREST IN THE AMUSEMENTS AND RIDES THAT HAVE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF THE JERSEY SHORE ECONOMY MAKE A BIG COMEBACK AND RESURGENCE IN ASBURY W/INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGY TO LURE FOLKS HERE INSTEAD OF 6 FLAGS, ETC. HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE COULD ALSO OFFER THEM GOOD, REASONABLE ACCOMODATIONS, A FAMILY FUN ATMOSPHERE, AS WELL AS GOOD DINING, AND A THRIVING ART AND MUSIC AND CULTURAL SCENE, AS WELL AS FUN FOR THE KIDS (AND BIG KIDS LIKE ME!) Another reason the PALACE (sob) COULD'VE BEEN AN IMPORTANT AND HISTORICAL HUB IN A UNIQUE, QUAINT AND INTERESTING AS WELL AS FUN AMUSEMENT CENTER AND TOURIST DESTINATION. THE CASINO COULD REALLY THRIVE AGAIN IF WE BUT HAVE THE WILL. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU OUT THERE REMEMBER THE BUMPER CARS AND CAROUSEL, AS WELL AS SKEE-BALL AND ALL THE COOL MACHINES IN THERE AT ONE TIME. BOY, HOW I MISS THAT, AND NO PLACE ELSE WAS LIKE IT!!!(MUCH LIKE THE PALACE, WHICH WAS TO ME, A SACRED PLACE, A SHRINE TO AMUSEMENTS AND ENTREPENEURSHIP and VISION and WONDER and IMAGINATION. ASBURY WAS THE BEST, LESS CROWED BUT MORE FUN THAN SEASIDE, AND WE HAD ALL THOSE GREAT CONCERTS (AND STILL DO) IN CONV. HALL! THE MORE WE PRESERVE OF THE 'OLD ASBURY' AND THE SPIRIT OF IT, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE, IMHO. NO ONE NOT WELL VERSED IN THE REAL SPIRIT OF WHAT WE WERE ONCE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KNOCK ANYTHING DOWN AND REDEVELOP IT INTO SOMETHING SOUL-LESS AND WITHOUT VISION. HEY YOU ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERETHINK 'BIG COASTER!!! THEN THINK... ASBURY!! And let's not lose the imagination and great minds that made Asbury such a beautiful place at one time, and hopefully, will again, but not w/out some major changes of direction and vision and imagination and PRESERVATION!! There, I've spouted off enough for now.-al --- David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were to ask musicians from the State of New Jersey if they'd rather see a New Jersey Hall of fame in the Meadowlands and having some kind of music museum as a side show or have a New Jersey Music Hall of Fame located in Asbury Park, dedicated to the talent from the Garden State that the world celebrates, I wonder what they would choose? If you were to ask the politicians of New Jersey the same question, we know what they choose. Give the NJMHOF the Casino and they will come! __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Another AP Icon Demolished
They must have been bored. When they get bored or have nothing to do, the easiest thing to do is to look for something to knock down. Makes it look as if they are 'really' doing SOMETHING, I guess. Too bad they have to take it out on Asbury, tho- our store of historically significant buildings is getting thinner by the day, and they're eyeing LOTS MORE cool stuff to FLATTEN!!! FLATTEN THEM INSTEAD, I SAY!! -al --- David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's gonna make the developer honor their agreement? - Original Message - From: Allan Peterson To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Another AP Icon Demolished Was that property taken by ED or did partners buy it? And I may be wrong but I thought I read that any property taken by ED must be developed within 1 year according to the agreement. Is this true? wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today the demolition of the former Ambassador Hotel was started. About half the building is a pile of rubble. The building was formerly known as the Palace Hotel. That makes two Palaces razed in the name of redevelopment. Werner (I'm not in control) Baumgartner -- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group AsburyPark on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan - website storage needed
GARY: THANKS FOR MAKING THESE PLANS AVAILABLE- IT'S QUITE AN EDUCATION, ONE I THINK EVERYONE INTERESTED AND CONCERNED W/ASBURY'S FUTURE AS WELL AS IT'S PAST SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT, TO TELL US WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, AND THE KIND OF VISION FOR THE TOWN THAT BRADLEY AND THE EARLY 'DEVELOPERS' HAD FOR ASBURY FROM THE OUTSET. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE ELSE TO READ AND BEGIN TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN'S FORMATION! IT'S INDISPENSIBLE FOR GETTING A HANDLE ON 'THE BIG PICTURE'! GREAT STUFF (even tho the print is kinda tiny, like all gov. docs! haha) -Thanks again. -al --- Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/5/05 10:19 PM, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the files are already online. Anyone can view or download them at: http://www.asburymusic.com/plan Gary, There's a broken link on the page and the formating is screwy, the first column wraps lines. Werner Sorry, that link was a late addition to the list. Everything's fixed now. Just tested all of the links and it's good to go. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Check out t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by US Rules
Guess now we can send them to the earthquake victims!! -al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Click here: t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by US Rules_ (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101405A.shtml) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Councilman Keady's October Update
I concur! Thanks for the update and the ambitious projects and hard work Jim.Perhaps we could clone you? hm.. -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FROM THE DESK OF COUNCILMAN JAMES W. KEADY OCTOBER UPDATE 2005 Jim, you are substantially underpaid. It's nice to have a voice in local government. Keep up the good work. We could use at least two more like you. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break
Very well put. -al --- Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach Boys! ];~) Wrong, again! This is August Wilson, one of the greatest playwrights, author, Tony Award Winner and American of our time. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~awilson/bio.html A very distinguished man, who wrote about the real America in all its' grittiness! A little respect wouldn't hurt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion. I've taken no position here. I'm just trying to understand what you are saying. I still need an answer. Why does a place like Great Adventure thrive financially with no government subsidy, yet theaters and art districts, which you maintain are big draws need subsidy? I guess you have to look at the bigger picture. Why do trashy television shows get better ratings than shows that try to make a statement? Why do trashy novels sell more than pure literature? One could say that in a free market society that this is a good thing; however, why is it that schools will include great literature in their classrooms but ignore the trashy novels that outsell those books 6- 1? Could it be because it's part of a greater good? I think so. I think that's why the government tries to help businesses get off of the ground. Let's face it, Six Flags is part of a gigantic corporation that can afford to run tons of ads down the throats of the masses while a normal theatre cannot ever expect to do so. While there is a lot of costs to running an amusement park or a Fortune 500 company, there are plenty of costs involved in running a theatre (as you, more than most, are aware of). In addition to rent, there are hefty utility costs, salaries to stagehands, directors, actors, lighting crews, stage designers, marketers, etc. Unfortunately, you would be very, very hard-pressed to survive at $20-$50 ticket prices. And that's the rub. Theatre exists to show the good and bad of society. It is our truth teller. It's our pathway from the past to the present and where we are headed. Theatre tries to do this at a price that people can afford. Sometimes it may seem expensive, but when compared to what a normal business would have to charge to make a profit (or just survive) it is a bargain. But that bargain comes with a price. It means tons of fundraising, begging everyone from single subscribers to giant corporations to the government. And the government plays the smallest role of any of them. It plays a necessary role, but a small one. Theatres have been forced to find alternative sources for 96-98% of their operating budget. What does it cost per person to subsidize PBS? It's a meaninglessly small number. I don't care if you never watch PBS, if you're gonna complain about what the government subsidizes towards arts culture than you better go through the budget and pick out the thousands of other things that have no bearing on your life and complain about those as well. Subsidization may sound awful, but it happens in almost every industry. Why do people feel bad about the poor farmer who's got a decision about selling the family farm for a couple of million dollars to a developer who wants to put up a shopping mall but they hate the fact that artists are being helped? Maybe the problem is that America shoots for the lowest common denominator. We despise our European roots because they still believe in things like art culture as defining a society. We fail to understand how there could be Muslims who are so offended by what we call art these days that they want our society to be wiped out. To MOST OF THE WORLD, arts culture is how they want to be remembered. I guess Americans would rather be remembered for how well their stock did today. We don't think of legacies or legends; heroes or people who changed the world. We think of immediate gratification. August Wilson passed away yesterday. In some places around the world, I expect there is a significant loss being felt. It's a shame that 99% of the people in America have no idea who Wilson was. And that's why the arts should be subsidized in my opinion. Because men like August Wilson have done so much for society that people SHOULD know about them instead of having them linger in obscurity... While we linger in ignorance. === message truncated ===
Re: [AsburyPark] Check out Officers To Be Charged After Beating
I hope you're talking about the citizen(s) and newsman belittled, humiliated and beaten, and not the fat corrupt pigs doing the beating while simultaneously trying to hide their actions from the cameras. I seldom use that term, but cant bring myself to call them 'law officers' either. Their motto should be 'to hurt and humiliate'. Possibly off course for THIS forum perhaps. Apologies. -al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Click here: Officers To Be Charged After Beating_ (http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2guideContext=65.491pmmsid=1414355) as if there isn't enough problems in la., now they have to be subjected to this ill treatment. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Oh No ! - Not Again
I dont know about this poster, but I for one DO think that the issue of EMMINENT (not imminent, tho it IS!) is VERY MUCH an issue relevant to Asbury Park and the abuses of 'the law' going on there against the 'common folk' and property owners, as well as many other places in this country, under the very elusive banner of 'public good' and have seen several good, informed posts on this issue on the site, and would again thank some of the folks/groups posting them for keeping me up to date on their activities. But hey, that's me, and my opinion. -al --- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love a little ass now then, myself! ];~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, hbsonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't saying to ignore the problems. That was sarcasm. I was simply stating that there shouldn't be a rush a shush people when they feel there is an issue in the city that has not been resolved. We can all makes jokes but when it comes to real issues the reply is Oh no! Not Again. My declaration of Oh no! Not Again. was refering to the month long run of postings that got nastier and nastier while have less and less to do with Asbury Park. Read back over the past 100 or more posts. Werner It took me a while and I'm not sure if this is the post I'm looking for, but this is one, that disturbed me a bit, then this morning, I went into the summary of what this group is SUPPOSED to be about, then I see postings from JerseyKev on his Long Branch Electric News and I say to myself, What Gives? I then read a while back, that this group/forum is about Imminent Domain, which it ISN't, so if you don't live in Asbury Park, or care what happens here, doesn't seem to be a prerequiste for being a part of this group. I've observed FORMER residents, from all over the world, post here because THEY really care and are too distant, but want to know anyway! Not a problem, but WHO sets the agenda, if there IS one? Certainly not I! I just need a clarification, so that when I comment, or NOT, there is no wise- a$$, dictating, just what this website/group, IS, or IS NOT about, is all! Everybdy loves a little a$$, but NOBODY loves a smart-a$$! Seen on the side of Margaritaville, Decatur St., New Orleans, La. The New Orleans, that was! Sigh! __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] JIM AARON HAS GOT TO GO...NOW! HE HAS DONE A HORRIBLE JOB OF
Correction, if I may'structuring w/honest PEOPLE...' I think would be more appropriate, and NOT politicians, but caring and knowledgable folks from the area might be better- much like a lot of the folks that post here!!! What 'POL' knows more about your city and county's problems then YOU FOLK!! We just need to get the caring folk into positions of authority, and ones that ask for public consensus at every turn!! (Tho I DO concur w/a lot of your other opinions!) -al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: REIDY NEEDS TO GO TOO Asbury needs a whole new structuring with HONEST politicians IF THERE ARE ANY . __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Check out Officers To Be Charged After Beating
Thought as much. Thanks. -al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan Removal
HERE HERE!!! I AGREE! -al --- dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why Jime Keady was voted in. Where are his comments? Jim has taken a break from this forum (shouldn't we all). Were you at the council meeting? Jim was the only one on the council who took up this issue and was basically asked to SHUT UP by Ed Johnson. Ed obviously does not appreciate what this latest trick represents, or simply doesn't care. Had you been at the meeting, you would have witnessed something that should make every citizen irate. Jim Keady, after they tried to silence him on the plan issue, brought up the issue of him being denied the floor and asked for a point of order from the city attorney pursuant to Roberts. The Deputy Mayor, Jim Bruno, basically told Keady, you want to play by the rules? Okay, you will never get three votes for anything you want on this council. That is one of his latest episodes. He has threatened to slap citizens at meetings, told them to shut up. I don't care how long he or his family has been in this town, or what he has done, he is a disgrace and obviously understands little that is brought before him. He owes his pension and his allegiance to Weldon. He should not only be removed from the council, but should be physically removed from the chambers. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another AP Icon Demolished - no �adopted� or �Official Plan� plan
PUT MY NAME DOWN TOO!! -al mc daniel --- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Sign me up for the recall petition! ]:~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There certainly is an adopted plan. The process was followed (assuming for the moment it was the correct process) and resolutiond were passed. The Offical Adopted Plan is the one on file at the City Clerks Office. The Clerks Office is, by law, the official keeper of the City Record. One should (assuming the Clerks Office is functioning properly) get a copy of the Adopted Plan which was offically logged and filed. Lets see where this goes. Werner, remember, this is Asbury Park. I would not count on it. Sorry you missed the council meeting tonight. They TRIED to defuse the situation by repeating the lame stories. Aaron actually tried to make people believe that Asbury Partners did the unofficial official plan (June 2002) and tried to make that the plan. Keady saw through this in that there was no incentive for Asbury Partners trying to add language that was more adverse to them with regard to C-8. I beleive they are stupid, but not that stupid. Keady was blown off by the cast of usual suspects. However, I was especially dismayed by Ed Johnson reaction who took Keady to task and told him to move on. Ed said the June 2002 plan was just a mistake. A bigger mistake is him being a councilmember. I guess he took DJ's article in TCN to heart and is now going to play ball with his team cohorts. Back to the city clerk. As I said earlier, Kay told me that the plan he considered the official adopted plan was the June 2002 version at issue. That is he said, until Don Sammet told him it wasn't. He called me later in the day to say he had a copy of the ordinance (2607) that adopted the plan attached to the March 15, 2002 plan. Don Sammet told him was the one adopted. That is the integrity of our public record keeping. I assure you, if anyone actually knew what is the adopted plan, they ain't telling. At the meeting I pointed out another detail which shows that they are blowing smoke up our asses. The ordinance adopting the plan says it gave the plan to the Planning board for review on 1/16/2002 (meaning the plan had to be created before this date). The PB gave its recommendations to the council on 4/26/2002, and the ordinance dated 6/5/2002, adopted the plan in gave the PB (on 1/16/2002) except for its acceptions and objections to the recommendations of the PB, which werre further enumerated. Now pertaining to the plan, that is it. There is no discussion that it was amended from some date before 1/16/2002 (given to PB)to 3/15/2002. That's it. The only dates are 1/16/2002 and 4/26/2002. Where did this 3/15/2002 plan come from? That is not what the ordinace adopted. It adopted whatever plan was given to the PB on 16/2002, which certainly could not have been dated 3/15/2002, 2 months later. Finally, Aaron stated that C-8 must come down and new footings installed. This is total new construction. He lied by only telling half of the truth. Aaron stated that the only conditions placed on C-8 development in the 3/15/2002 plan was to remove the garage and redo the facade. He failed to say that the 3/15/2002 contains a section identical to the 6/5/2002 plan which says that if the developer can finish the project it can be built to the existing height. The operative word is finish. Finish does not mean demolishing the structure, excavating and redoing the footings. That's a total new development. They are trying to pull a fast one here. It's time to wake up and smell whatever it is they're cooking. Look at the timing. Last week its confirmed C-8 must come down (which I predicted). I and others point out that if demolished they can rebuild to existing height, and thus, would want an amendment for which we could and should get money. I ask for clarification of what could be done on C-8 site if demolished and all of a sudden the city this ain't the plan. At best it is gross ineptitude, at worse, its criminal. Like it or not, the council, with the exception of Keady, won't do a damn thing about this. Apparently, Johnson is included with the majority. These council members are not even familar with these documents. Time for a recall. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
