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There is an old theater sitting empty right by North Beach (oak can give more details on that), but there are spots where ReVision can go...permanently I have to make it crystal clear, that I am not for dotting the whole waterfront with amusements, I... like the others, simply want a carousel in the carousel house, a ferris wheel would be great, maybe some one-off small rides here and there Its not rocket science, its what the people want.MM would be surprised (probably not tho) how many boardwalk visitors want this. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: colonialjohn johnm...@optonline.net Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:08:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been
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My original plan years ago was to have a ferris wheel and the carousel as part and parcel of a hotel --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: I'll stick with my opinion that one simple and large (iconic) Ferris wheel would serve both adults and children. Put a large Ferris wheel on that empty lot, and my gut feeling is you'd have a winner. How great would it be to have a view of AP from up above? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@ wrote: or my personal favourite - drunk adults with kids... it would be great if we could have some more activies that the kids could do while we sit at one of the bars.. business for everyone. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: ** you don't need a million rides - but something to kill an hour or two for those that ARE in the near area . Nothing wrong with a couple LITTLE real kiddie rides. The splash park works, the mini-golf works then nothing wrong with a couple boats that go around in a circle with a bell or a couple cars that go around in a circle. Cheap, simple quiet fun. A carousel solves two issues - one keeping a bit of AP here while providing some entertainment for drunk adults or for adults with kids. good, clean fun and opens the casino to other ventures. shame the city couldn't have a uez fund to lease and operate at least that section of the casino. I'd make a deal with MM. How much do they pay (or partners) in taxes for the parking lots? Are they paying taxes on those lots - or is it carried as vacant land? A thought. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The Paramount Theater is hardly ever used! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: There is an old theater sitting empty right by North Beach (oak can give more details on that), but there are spots where ReVision can go...permanently I have to make it crystal clear, that I am not for dotting the whole waterfront with amusements, I... like the others, simply want a carousel in the carousel house, a ferris wheel would be great, maybe some one-off small rides here and there Its not rocket science, its what the people want.MM would be surprised (probably not tho) how many boardwalk visitors want this. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: colonialjohn johnmenc@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:08:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first
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This is the best reply I've read in some time. I came to NJ at a time, when APs boardwalk catered more to family than what its' evolved to. All of the vintage post cards and initial creation of Asbury was why I raged some, because I saw what my kids came up with being destroyed. I do have an old 1997 Asbury Park Master Plan, from my days on the Board Of Adjustment and seeing Asbury evolve from Carabetta to Madison Marquette has taken some getting used to. I feel for residents who have to PAY to park in front of one's own residence and it appears as though the City just doesn't get it in that regard, mainly because NONE of them, live in the Boardwalk area. If I lived over in Hinge's area, I'd be pissed! He's paying off the hook property taxes, then is touristed to pay to park. I say GIVE residents who live there a FREE decal entitling them to a space. Clean up the damned Library Park and install some surveillance there. What would be a pretty historic park is reduced to a hangout for drunks, mental cases and the homeless; like a Marlboro Psychiatric of the air! I read with chagrin about Rita in the Coaster and I do believe that someone ought to learn how to use interpersonal skills, rather than blast off at what I consider an institution of the Shore and should be duly respected. Supressing speech is one of the first steps to anarchy. Silence the public to let others know, this is what you'll get for speaking out. As far as the West Side, that building should have been finished, 3 months, ago. There are still mountains of dirt, with plants growing out of them, now. Message: The poor, need not be respected, no matter that they too are represented by the SAME Constitution. Brings to mind, something Dr. King said in one of his many speeches, A Black Man has no rights a white man need respect! Promises of a supermarket or something on the corner lot across from the old Orchid Lounge on Memorial and Springwood. Anyway, this was the best response I've seen. It seems the killings go on. Like dreams deferred, the murdered person's family can only dream of what their young persons' life would have been like had they lived. Asbury Park needs a workable Jobs program. Something like Industrial Arts Training like Carpentry, Electrical and Plumbing that those whom college isn't on the cards or not to their liking can have something to give them a decent living. With that, I'll continue to read on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change
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I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In business one of the key determinants of success is focusing on something specific and doing it extremely well. having a few rides will just be an eyesore and a half baked attempt at luring some families in. in my humble opinion i think they need to keep going with the art and music scene as far as they can take it. An adult playground so to speak. Pick a vision (werner has done a good job detailing why music and entertainment make sense), stick to it and then don't veer from the course. Focus and build. I agree with art, music, beerfests etc... I had a bunch of friends down and they loved the beerfest. Spent a bundle at the beer fest, ate at pops and then probably spent a few hundred in Porta. All good for the town. Let's not despair at this point. Look at what is happening on Cookman. Art focused, keep it going. Dan --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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you don't need a million rides - but something to kill an hour or two for those that ARE in the near area . Nothing wrong with a couple LITTLE real kiddie rides. The splash park works, the mini-golf works then nothing wrong with a couple boats that go around in a circle with a bell or a couple cars that go around in a circle. Cheap, simple quiet fun. A carousel solves two issues - one keeping a bit of AP here while providing some entertainment for drunk adults or for adults with kids. good, clean fun and opens the casino to other ventures. shame the city couldn't have a uez fund to lease and operate at least that section of the casino. I'd make a deal with MM. How much do they pay (or partners) in taxes for the parking lots? Are they paying taxes on those lots - or is it carried as vacant land? A thought. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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or my personal favourite - drunk adults with kids... it would be great if we could have some more activies that the kids could do while we sit at one of the bars.. business for everyone. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com wrote: ** you don't need a million rides - but something to kill an hour or two for those that ARE in the near area . Nothing wrong with a couple LITTLE real kiddie rides. The splash park works, the mini-golf works then nothing wrong with a couple boats that go around in a circle with a bell or a couple cars that go around in a circle. Cheap, simple quiet fun. A carousel solves two issues - one keeping a bit of AP here while providing some entertainment for drunk adults or for adults with kids. good, clean fun and opens the casino to other ventures. shame the city couldn't have a uez fund to lease and operate at least that section of the casino. I'd make a deal with MM. How much do they pay (or partners) in taxes for the parking lots? Are they paying taxes on those lots - or is it carried as vacant land? A thought. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I'll stick with my opinion that one simple and large (iconic) Ferris wheel would serve both adults and children. Put a large Ferris wheel on that empty lot, and my gut feeling is you'd have a winner. How great would it be to have a view of AP from up above? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids claire.davids@... wrote: or my personal favourite - drunk adults with kids... it would be great if we could have some more activies that the kids could do while we sit at one of the bars.. business for everyone. *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* Claire Davids Managing Partner i-Parcel LLC Tel: +12015491502 Mobile: +16464316239 www.i-parcel.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: ** you don't need a million rides - but something to kill an hour or two for those that ARE in the near area . Nothing wrong with a couple LITTLE real kiddie rides. The splash park works, the mini-golf works then nothing wrong with a couple boats that go around in a circle with a bell or a couple cars that go around in a circle. Cheap, simple quiet fun. A carousel solves two issues - one keeping a bit of AP here while providing some entertainment for drunk adults or for adults with kids. good, clean fun and opens the casino to other ventures. shame the city couldn't have a uez fund to lease and operate at least that section of the casino. I'd make a deal with MM. How much do they pay (or partners) in taxes for the parking lots? Are they paying taxes on those lots - or is it carried as vacant land? A thought. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start
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Put a Ferris wheel in the empty space between 1st and 2nd Ave. It would have a great view, especially during Stone Pony Summer Stage shows, and it would look great in photos of the same. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@... wrote: I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices
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Isn't that where the original Ferris wheel was? Trying to remember... Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:00 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Put a Ferris wheel in the empty space between 1st and 2nd Ave. It would have a great view, especially during Stone Pony Summer Stage shows, and it would look great in photos of the same. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@... wrote: I have to admit ... the last (10) or so responses were great. A Carousel in the Casino Area but will the Revision Theater find a permanenet home? They are going strong there now ... I have been to EVERY show as alot of locals. Its been great. A Ferris Wheel would be a winner but at what location? It seems the area north of the Convention Center may be next testing ground with some new ventures? Each season for the last (5) seasons I have lived here part-time and the beach crowd has grown exponentially. Some businesses have failed but some have survived that are not food related. Of course alot of traffic from Ocean Grove which really has no good mix of restaurants or night life. That new breakfast place Toast has been a hit ... ask any Ocean Grover full time in this town if he/she has not heard of it or even been there. That Beerfest last weekend reached its maximum allowable capacity for the event of 2,200 people and sold out. I was shut out trying to get in there from the 6-10PM session. Probably with another 500 or so people like myself wanting to get inside this event. I think what makes AP unique now is the current diversification that few other beach resorts can match even at this time. We can only hope this success can spread WEST into the city season after season and all this revenue can revitilize areas TO THE WEST. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Past sat night live with ben stiller he did a Springsteen bit. Mentions the abandoned ferris wheel as part of his bruce bit. Check out on nbc or hulu --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I get the Carousel question all the time, particularly from friends who spent time here as a child. I love that Revision has made good use of an abandoned space, but it sure would be nice to see a view of a beautiful Carousel reflecting off of the lake on a beautiful summer evening. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Everyday I spent on the boardwalk/beach this summer, I had at least one person ask me where the Carousel was.when I told them, the look on their faces was sad Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsavgny@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:19:27 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about
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I think that the art aspect is wonderful, but why limit a city that's always been so diverse with just one thing? Let's not pigeonhole Asbury - rather, let's embrace its diversity, and utilize that. As for the question earlier about where the Revision would relocate to, there are a few ideas, but the first one is that if the Casino is rebuilt as it was supposed to be, there would be plenty of room to move it inward some, perhaps the area where the old fun house was? Or, better yet, it could use another building that is currently empty - last I checked, there was still nothing in the old Hitching Rail / Higgenbottom's Pizza Pub building adjacent to the Pony, that is longer and narrower but I think roughly the same square footage as the Carousel House. Also, aren't the upstairs areas of Convention Hall still not being used? Just a few thoughts! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:29 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... In business one of the key determinants of success is focusing on something specific and doing it extremely well. having a few rides will just be an eyesore and a half baked attempt at luring some families in. in my humble opinion i think they need to keep going with the art and music scene as far as they can take it. An adult playground so to speak. Pick a vision (werner has done a good job detailing why music and entertainment make sense), stick to it and then don't veer from the course. Focus and build. I agree with art, music, beerfests etc... I had a bunch of friends down and they loved the beerfest. Spent a bundle at the beer fest, ate at pops and then probably spent a few hundred in Porta. All good for the town. Let's not despair at this point. Look at what is happening on Cookman. Art focused, keep it going. Dan --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have to change and maybe will. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig
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Possibly. There are certain beaches you can go for that kind of thing in which is tretches from one end to the other ... pathetic. It's nice to walk down the boardwalk and not hear bells and whistles. More unique shops and restaurants, etc. is in order. Chain restaurants are also banned like Dairy Queens, etc. ... GOOD. The metamorphosis of the boardwalk has been very good. Some failures ... but good. I am liking these special events like the Beerfest, Nov. 12 show in which Bruce will show up, ZOMBIE WALK, this is ASBURY PARK. Maybe the CASINO area has been reserved for a mini-amusement park area. Maybe ... you will get your Seaside Park in AP. Although these kind of low end shops are like a VIRUS. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: I've been all for having rides back on the boardwalk again. The investors don't seem to care what people are asking for, though. But I agree, a Ferris wheel would be a nice start, also some kiddy rides too. Just my two cents :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Why do games and boardwalk fun have to be low end? Plenty of places on the coasts that have this stuff and are not virus' Bottom line is that having EVERYTHING catered to a upper middle class to upper class will eventually fail Check the crime rate lately? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: colonialjohn johnm...@optonline.net Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:17:46 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Possibly. There are certain beaches you can go for that kind of thing in which is tretches from one end to the other ... pathetic. It's nice to walk down the boardwalk and not hear bells and whistles. More unique shops and restaurants, etc. is in order. Chain restaurants are also banned like Dairy Queens, etc. ... GOOD. The metamorphosis of the boardwalk has been very good. Some failures ... but good. I am liking these special events like the Beerfest, Nov. 12 show in which Bruce will show up, ZOMBIE WALK, this is ASBURY PARK. Maybe the CASINO area has been reserved for a mini-amusement park area. Maybe ... you will get your Seaside Park in AP. Although these kind of low end shops are like a VIRUS. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: I've been all for having rides back on the boardwalk again. The investors don't seem to care what people are asking for, though. But I agree, a Ferris wheel would be a nice start, also some kiddy rides too. Just my two cents :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Name the beach or the place. Even Wildwood which has the best beach ... but the Boardwalk business is pathetic. Being restrictive is a good thing. AP is growing from the beach inward can only help this city. The other side of the tracks is a whole different issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Why do games and boardwalk fun have to be low end? Plenty of places on the coasts that have this stuff and are not virus' Bottom line is that having EVERYTHING catered to a upper middle class to upper class will eventually fail Check the crime rate lately? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: colonialjohn johnmenc@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:17:46 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Possibly. There are certain beaches you can go for that kind of thing in which is tretches from one end to the other ... pathetic. It's nice to walk down the boardwalk and not hear bells and whistles. More unique shops and restaurants, etc. is in order. Chain restaurants are also banned like Dairy Queens, etc. ... GOOD. The metamorphosis of the boardwalk has been very good. Some failures ... but good. I am liking these special events like the Beerfest, Nov. 12 show in which Bruce will show up, ZOMBIE WALK, this is ASBURY PARK. Maybe the CASINO area has been reserved for a mini-amusement park area. Maybe ... you will get your Seaside Park in AP. Although these kind of low end shops are like a VIRUS. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@ wrote: I've been all for having rides back on the boardwalk again. The investors don't seem to care what people are asking for, though. But I agree, a Ferris wheel would be a nice start, also some kiddy rides too. Just my two cents :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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No doubt a small amusement area in the Casino would work. A carousel back in this Casino area? Possibly ... but like you said Revision Theater is going strong but they do hint to us members it does wish to have its own PERMANENT theater possibly somewhere else in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: there's no reason why you can't have a classy amusement area - if wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might come back without their kids and spend even more. Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what could be...) all the way down to margate. The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the what the f Revel Casino now once again underway. Parts along the inlet with beautiful new fancy homes, a few single family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few dilapidated buildings. ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors also dot the boardwalk. My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's been 33 years to get to where it is today. Asbury has it's own share of problems. What asbury has turned out to be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the right time and managed or are managing to survive. One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a show of all the projects that were planned for AP since the 20's. Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw and of course the jackson pavilion Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires removal of buildings. Maybe it will be done in 5 yearsmaybe 10, maybe 30. (I think I heard this since I was 17) You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just pick your time period. The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've been all for having rides back on the boardwalk again. The investors don't seem to care what people are asking for, though. But I agree, a Ferris wheel would be a nice start, also some kiddy rides too. Just my two cents :) Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hinge Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more... Why not just put a big Ferris wheel there? Imagine seeing a Stone Pony Summer Stage show from that vantage point, having an amazing view of the ocean and Asbury Park? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Nice summary Werner of years of postingsand then some. One thing never discussed and maybe should be considered Permitting a NEW PAVILION directly across from the Pony. It would occupy the blank space between 1st and 2nd ave - leaving intact current green space. As a condition, it must contain restooms for the south end of the BW (recall, there were bathrooms in 1st ave pav that were eliminated...) - therefore eliminating the container bathrooms (which don't do much as far as looks). The new building should be permitted for 2 floors , but not a box - and as a replacement for the temp pop-ups. If you want, you may call this a location for a possible public/private pool (missing in ap) and as a beachfront, a family public/private pool is indeed missing. One can only look at the splash park as family draw and move beyond we need another bar on the boardwalk spot.. dd Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
