RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-13 Thread Debbie DeLisa


 You can pick up The Upstage at The Wonder Bar


From: "2fine4u" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady BlogDate: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:51:01 -




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "dfsavgny" [EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:I work with Veterans and you can barely get a blurb in the paper for them, so don't think that you're being ignored. We ALL, are! The Coaster, has been very good at publishing my news and I rely solely on this community based, newspaper. I can hardly get the Tri-City News, unless I visit Home Drugs, on Main St. I never know where I can pick up the Upstage, either. You might also get lucky with the Link and the Neptune Times. Have you tried the Newark Star-Ledger, the Trentonian? You might want to go to them. Just asking. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@  wrote:   it is sad how 
some have the need to control this board and hammer  away at topics when private emails could be sent.What's private? We don't have the luxury of being published in the  local papers. Smell the coffee roasting - there's a tight lid around  here on what gets printed. I tried many times to take what I have  posted here to the press. I only work in facts. That's my training and  what I get paid for. Build a case with facts and present those facts. I  have presented things to the press of import to this City. No go. Why?  Kool Aid.


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-13 Thread Lightgrw

On Nov 13, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Debbie DeLisa wrote:

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread Allan Peterson


please define the agenda?
- Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into account. To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to push their agenda.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that  children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced  by Asbury Park.  He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is  trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.  How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and  their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids  develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how  Asbury can
 benefit?


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread Allan Peterson


I have asked directly about the gang comment. He said he was unable to cite sources do to the nature of how the information was gathered. From his response I was lead to believe that this was a situation he was working on with others howevere these otheres were not law enforcement. I stressed how his information provided no comfort and should be in the hands of the local police and county officials. 
- Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 11:15:34 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out of there.One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady actually going to him directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have issue with. JK seems pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss?--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: please define the agenda?   - Original Message  From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog  Well said, and I don't understand why some of the
 others here aren't taking that into account.  To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the  whole shooting mess to push their agenda.  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" njdave@ wrote:   I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that   children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced   by Asbury Park.He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is   trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and   their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids   develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how   Asbury can benefit?   
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

Somewhat convenient how you get news 
  before anyone. Hmmm.



Is Keady the only onein townin favor of transparency, full 
disclosure, and the Sunshine laws?Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 10:30:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
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To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"justifiedright" justifiedright@... wrote: So 
you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the  rest of 
the City is wrong.  Says alot.The rest of the city? 
Tom, you are a paid hack for the powers in this city. Loffredo, Sanders and 
Bruno have indentations on their asses from your lips. Bruno rides in your 
mustang in the parade. There's probably a lot more. When you no longer feed 
at the trough of city hall then maybe you will be taken seriously. Right now 
you're just a pain in the ass. I would call you the Borat of attorneys but I 
wouldn't do that to Borat.Somewhat convenient how you get news 
before anyone. Hmmm.
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ






In reference to Dan's 
frustration
: 

Tell your boys to buy my home. I had it 
  with the nonsense in this city. 



Not so fast Compare! There's talk of your running for city 
council.

Hope your not gonna "cut and run" 'cause of one or two goons.

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Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 10:27:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
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To:
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Sent on:  




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"oakdorf" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---keady should keep 
his ass right where it is - on the council. You are still the most 
level-headed of us all. Tell your boys to buy my home. I had it with the 
nonsense in this city. 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your half-truths: 
: 

When I called him back he dropped 
  F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and the next day his wife emailed me and 
  called me names.

Then Keady apologized to you:



Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 


  Tom, 
  I am writing to 
  apologize for some of the comments and language that I used during our 
  telephone conversation last night. Regardless of how I felt, they have 
  no place in honest discourse. I hope that you accept my apology and that 
  we move forward in a spirit of continued dialogue. 
  

And you responded on October 10:



Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

Jim you don't have to apologize to 
  me. We are two fairly "regular" guys. Our conversations are going 
  to be a little salty sometimes. That's never going to be 
  shared with anyone or ever held against you. I'm glad you feel 
  comfortable enough with me to speak to me like a regular 
guy.
:

So your word is is good huh?


Original Message


  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 11:42:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  






Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He sent me an 
email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was busy at the 
moment).When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. 
and the next day his wife emailed me and called me names.You suggest 
to me this is a guy open to discussion?It isn't because of me he is 
losing the faith of so many. It's because of how he treats 
people.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"Hinge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The agenda seems to be 
bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before  
the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out 
of there. One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady 
actually going to him  directly to ask about the gang comment, or 
anything else they have issue with. JK seems  pretty open to 
discussion. Why not discuss? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote:   
please define the agenda?  - 
Original Message   From: Hinge hinge98@  To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM  Subject: 
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady BlogWell said, and I don't 
understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into  
account.   To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the 
wings, and his detractors used the   whole shooting mess to push 
their agenda.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, 
"theshortsalepro" njdave@ wrote: 
I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that
children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced 
   by Asbury Park.  He is 
trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is   
 trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.   
   How better to let the kids know that the adults care about 
them andtheir opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em 
so? If the kidsdevelop a feeling of self worth and self 
respect... who knows howAsbury can benefit?  
  

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ





Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

In reference to your comment: 

I was born and raised with goons. It's 
  provincial assholes that really get my goat.

Well, consider this. The more that justifiedright is their 
mouthpiece, the bigger the hole that's dug. And it's all on the record, 
much of it here.

Why aren't those who oppose Keady because they don't buy into his vision 
for the city---why aren't they distancing themselves from justified's 
tactics. 

I'm too stupid 
  to run away.

Cool! In this limited sense, stupid is good! 
Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 1:22:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
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To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:  Not so fast Compare! 
There's talk of your running for city council.Wouldn't that be comical! 
I'd probably wind up on death row. Hope your not gonna "cut and run" 
'cause of one or two goons.I was born and raised with goons. It's 
provincial assholes that really get my goat. I'm too stupid to run away. I'm 
the kind of guy who you just have to kill.
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

To me, the slamming of JK was already 
  waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to 
  push their agenda.


And whether the "waiting in the wings" theory is true or not doesn't 
matter.

That's the perception being created. Fresh in some minds was 
the Iraq war, "waiting in the wings" for something to justify it.

True or not, that's the perception that drove some to oppose the neocon's 
war..

Original 
Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 10:02:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  




Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking 
that into account. To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the 
wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to push their 
agenda.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"theshortsalepro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I read Keady 
said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that  children/youth/students are 
part of the solution to the problems faced  by Asbury Park. 
 He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is 
 trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. 
 How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and 
 their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids 
 develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how 
 Asbury can benefit?
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ





Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],

In reference to your comment: 

You're the one that posted that stuff 
  about JK cursing here (why don't you reprint your apology to JK for doing 
  that).

See message 18874 "My apology to Keady and his response."


I only told you 
  after you emailed me 10 times as Jim's supporter. I was hoping to get you to 
  stop stalking me.

See message# 18836 "Private emails..." and message 
#18838 "To be Fair and Balanced." Especially my explanation that I 
was not a Keady supporter. Further there were 6 emails from me (about 
politics, Marxism, Zinn et al.)from responding to those initiated by 
you. 

That proves my 
  point from earlier: You "wanted to help" Jim Keady but your actions hurt him. 
  Wanting to help is irrelevant. We all want to help.


All of the above proves what I've thought all along:You 
don't readand consider what others say; you simply react, and to things 
which weren't said.

All heat; no light.

Original Message


  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
11/9/2006 2:08:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  






You're the one that posted that stuff about JK cursing here (why don't 
you reprint your apology to JK for doing that).I only told you after you 
emailed me 10 times as Jim's supporter. I was hoping to get you to stop 
stalking me.Since you were his supporter, I never dreamed you would put 
it on the 'net. I figured you were in his camp.You were so blinded 
in your desire to hurt me you hurt him.That proves my point from 
earlier: You "wanted to help" Jim Keady but your actions hurt him. Wanting 
to help is irrelevant. We all want to help.You two should start a 
"Good intentions/bad results" club.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:  Hello 
justifiedright@..., In reference to your half-truths:  : 
   When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me 
names, etc. and  the next day his wife emailed me and called me 
names.   Then Keady apologized to you:  
  Hello james.keady@..., In reference to your 
comment:Tom,  I am writing to apologize for 
some of the comments and language that I used  during our telephone 
conversation last night. Regardless of how I felt, they  have no 
place in honest discourse. I hope that you accept my apology and  
that we move forward in a spirit of continued dialogue.   
  And you responded on October 10:   
 Hello james.keady@..., In reference to your comment: 
   Jim you don't have to apologize to me. We are two 
fairly "regular" guys.  Our conversations are going to be a little 
salty sometimes. That's never  going to be shared with anyone or 
ever held against you. I'm glad you feel  comfortable enough with me 
to speak to me like a regular guy.   :  
So your word is is good huh?Original 
Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 
11:42:02 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time From: _justifiedright@..._ 
 (mailto:justifiedri[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
 Sent on:
Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He  sent me 
an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was  busy at 
the moment).  When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called 
me names, etc. and  the next day his wife emailed me and called me 
names.  You suggest to me this is a guy open to 
discussion?  It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so 
many. It's  because of how he treats people.  --- In 
_AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
,  "Hinge" hinge98@ wrote:   The agenda 
seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read  here, it existed 
before   the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a 
way to  get him out of there.  One thing is really bothering 
me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady  actually going to him   
directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have  
issue with. JK seems   pretty open to discussion. Why not 
discuss?  --- In _AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
,  Allan Peterson nnjallans1@  wrote:  
   please define the agenda? 
- Original Message    From: 
Hinge hinge98@   To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
   Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM   
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog  Well 
said, and I don't understand why some of the others here  aren't taking 
that into   account.To me, the slamming of JK 
was already waiting in the wings, and  his detractors used the 
   whole shooting mess to push their agenda.   
   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" 
njdave@  wrote:  
 I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that   
  children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the  
problems faced by Asbury Park.
He is trying to involve the kids in the 

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

I'm not enjoying this discussion 
  anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste.I'll check back with this 
  board in a few weeks to see if there's anything new to talk 
  about.Jack


Jack, if you check the archives you'll notice that justified left this 
group in the spring and returned on October 13. His first post: "Keady Resignation Demand Today I called 
for Jim Keady to resign his City Council position, (message 
18066)

And then the tenor of posts got hotterand as you say now ugly.

Compare the posts here during his hiatus. A much more civil tone 
here, though not always agreeable.

justified brings out the worst in people.

Always pouring more oil on troubled waters.

. 






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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
  
Date:
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To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  




I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my 
taste.I'll check back with this board in a few weeks to see if there's 
anything new to talk about.Jack--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"justifiedright" justifiedright@... wrote: --- In 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"dfsavgny" dfsavgny@ wrote:   Tell me Tom, what does 
your hometown (Howell right?) do? Tell me   what steps you have 
taken going to other towns asking them to take   the load off of 
AP's shoulders? We all know you're in politics in   the County, what 
steps have you taken with your fellow Republicans   to have their 
areas share some of the social burdens borne by AP?   
Thanks for bringing it up. I have done so on the County level and  
continue to do so (on the state level too). I will be successful. 
 I talked about it on the Radio last week. I talked about it in  
front of Jim Keady at Holy Spirit Church. I talked about it at my  
fundraiser last week. I'm actively lobbying for it and am trying to  do 
more.  The people I have to fight with to get the money for 
Asbury Park is  radical environmentalists, who are controlling that 
money - hundreds  of millions of dollars each year.  
Caring, "want to help" enlightened, tolerant liberals in the  
environmental movemnet, and they are hurting Asbury Park, the  poorest 
City in the County. Bet I'm the only one not surprised.  Bet I'm 
the only one not just talking about having the state and  county share 
the burdens of Asbury Park, I'm actively trying to do  somehting about 
it.  Now go play basketball with Jim 
Keady.
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-09 Thread Allan Peterson


it is sad how some have the need to control this board and hammer away at topics when private emails could be sent.
- Original Message From: apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 3:16:05 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste.cant say i blame you, it seems like many of these posts started with the letter from disanto to keady, the only version i have read is the one in todays press, truthfully im not sure who is at fault, but perhaps disanto can share with us the action he or the bd. took against the teacher and principal, if they were wrong, what action he directed to the 2 school superintendents to make sure this does not happen again ,if it was wrong,( please do not hide behind its a personnel issue and you can not discuss it because thats B.S. it is a policy issue,more than just tommy know the law) you can not blame just keady, but no one ever seems to go after the ones who seem to be consistently
 wrong, the bd president and his majority voting block, where are the taxpayers goups who have attacked previous bds for far fewer mistakes than this majority has made? cmon guys and gals there is such a word as consintency, which isnt being adhered to, we should all be on a level playing field, and all held to the same constructive criticism, but that is not happening, it seems to be easier to have knee jerk reactions and kick keady, but not the bd. and its way too many administrators. i do not believe mayor and council feel threatened by keady, and trying to make him look bad, that to me is ridiculous, 

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-04-15 Thread Allan Peterson



Can someone explain to me what the issue is for:  Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developeretc.I know we have a lawyer on the board so maybe he could help. It is my understand that when money is in escrow you still have to have a judge release it? It is not like Partners do something wrong and the city can take the money right? So if that is the case who care what attorney or bank holds the money? I would think that since it is Asbury Partners responsibility then they has also have the costs involved saving the city money.  dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In
 AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what the Councilman said of the new agreement:  "Am I satisfied with this agreement? Yes."  I know he has many fans on this board. What say you about this?I just read it too and I sent Jim an email respectfully disagreeing with him and pointed out in detail why. I have already outlined the same details here so I will spare the group, but in brief,No financial guarantees for total restorationLitigation escape clause still in Force MajeureGave up right to declare Default on the issues in supplemental agreementNo specific financial penalties for not meeting total restoration deadlinesToo little money held in escrowSelection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developeretc.
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