Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
You are right Ram And I apologize to all, including Rajen, for my transgressions of subjecting you to something that I did not enjoy one bit and am not proud of; more so since Rajen is an old friend with whom I share a number of common interests and hold him in high regard in so many other spheres. c-da At 4:21 PM -0600 2/1/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >Gentelmen, gentlemen, > >I am sure there are netters out there like me, who may be drawing >conclusions as to whether your discussions on this subject are >'discussions' any more. > >More and more these seem to be personal salvos full of rancor, > hurled at each other. > >I hope we can go back to the valuable discussions and debates that >both of you have so much to contribute that so many of us look >forward to. > >And sorry for the intrusion and thanks. > >--Ram > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Gentelmen, gentlemen, I am sure there are netters out there like me, who may be drawing conclusions as to whether your discussions on this subject are 'discussions' any more. More and more these seem to be personal salvos full of rancor, hurled at each other. I hope we can go back to the valuable discussions and debates that both of you have so much to contribute that so many of us look forward to. And sorry for the intrusion and thanks. --Ram On 2/1/06, Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the day : >Life is more important than country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below. Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any. Why do I need to explain my philosphical gem? 'Life is more important than country or religion' 'Killing is civilization'. 'Exploitation is civilization'. 'Hobo Diok is a good philosophy' With those four, you can live one lifetime. What more you need. You don't need philoosophy or history anyway. Take it easy. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 10:03 AM -0600 2/1/06, Rajen Barua wrote: I think it getting to you. I can see that you are running out of gas. *** How could you tell ? Take a rest Chandan. *** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the day : >Life is more important than country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below. Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any. But that is OK, we understand :-). c RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question Okkkay! At 3:28 PM -0600 2/1/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the day : >Life is more important than country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below. Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any. Why do I need to explain my philosphical gem? 'Life is more important than country or religion' 'Killing is civilization'. 'Exploitation is civilization'. 'Hobo Diok is a good philosophy' With those four, you can live one lifetime. What more you need. You don't need philoosophy or history anyway. Take it easy. RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
*** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the day
: >Life is more important than
country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below.
Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any.
Why do I need to explain
my philosphical gem?
'Life is more important than
country or religion'
'Killing is
civilization'.
'Exploitation is
civilization'.
'Hobo Diok is a good
philosophy'
With those four, you can live
one lifetime.
What more you need.
You don't need philoosophy or
history anyway.
Take it easy.
RB
- Original Message -
From:
Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:05
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
At 10:03 AM -0600 2/1/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
I
think it getting to you.
I
can see that you are running out of gas.
*** How could you tell ?
Take a rest Chandan.
*** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the
day : >Life is more important than
country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below.
Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any.
But that is OK, we understand :-).
c
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Barua25 ;
assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
>Life is more
important than country or religion.
*** Certainly is.
How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000
Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many
hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live
independently never caught your attention?
Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with
attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and
totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in
Houston?
You are trying too hard.
Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in
demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian
occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated
by going on like this.
Seriously!
Your friend and well-wisher,
chandan
At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote:
*** What are you trying to prove
Rajen?
Patriotism, like
Religion, is a dirty word.
People kill people
for both.
I wonder
why?
Why some people get
immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their
cause for patriotism or religion?
Life is more
important than country or religion.
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a
Moral Question
At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>I will never support the actions of ULFA
from a distance if I
know their cases are
doomed
This means if I
know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage
by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing
because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You
even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout
Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral
support because they are dying anyway.
RB
*** Back-pedaling time already?
Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would
you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported
the American revolutionaries?
Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French?
Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom
fighters?
*** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest
would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical
genius.
c
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Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 10:33 AM -0600 2/1/06, Rajen Barua wrote: Killing is civilization. ** Uh-huh! ULFA is killing GOI is killing. ** Why are they doing that again? Spreading civilization? That is civilization. *** Umm-hmm! What is new here? *** You tell us. Looks like you have a lot to learn *** As someone who has learnt it all,YOU tell me something I don't know. Take it easy Pal. *** Is there an echo in here :-)? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 10:03 AM -0600 2/1/06, Rajen Barua wrote: I think it getting to you. I can see that you are running out of gas. *** How could you tell ? Take a rest Chandan. *** I will, just as soon as you explain your philosophical gem for the day : >Life is more important than country or religion., with ref. to context of my questions below. Howeb ver something tells me, we won't see any. But that is OK, we understand :-). c RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question Killing is civilization. ULFA is killing GOI is killing. That is civilization. What is new here? Looks like you have a lot to learn Take it easy Pal. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question I think it getting to you. I can see that you are running out of gas. Take a rest Chandan. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Barua25 ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Life is more important than country or religion. *** Certainly is. How come the Indian govt's butchering of over 100,000 Nagas and over 20,000(?)Mizos, over 15,000 Assamese and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Kashmiris, simply because they want to live independently never caught your attention? Why do you complain, whine and moan charging ULFA with attempting to steal your freedoms imposing communism and totalitarianism in Assam, while you are safely ensconced in Houston? You are trying too hard. Take it easy, Pal! You have done more than your fair share in demonstrating your commitments to keeping Assam safe for Indian occupation. We know. But no need to make yourself look so discombobulated by going on like this. Seriously! Your friend and well-wisher, chandan At 11:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Barua25 wrote: *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Patriotism, like Religion, is a dirty word. People kill people for both. I wonder why? Why some people get immense pleasure encouraging people to get killed supporting their cause for patriotism or religion? Life is more important than country or religion. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 4:41 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed This means if I know somebody is doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support because they are dying anyway. RB *** Back-pedaling time already? Would you have supported the ANC and Mandela? Would you have supported Golda Meir and Abba Eban? Would you have supported the American revolutionaries? Would you have supported Ho-Chi-Minh against the French? Would you have supported Ben Bella and the Algerian freedom fighters? *** What are you trying to prove Rajen? Give it a rest would ya? The world knows of your moral superiority and philosophical genius. c ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
>I will never support the
actions of ULFA from a distance
if I know their cases are doomed
This means if I know somebody is
doomed to die in their cause, I will not encourage by shouting Bravo Bravo
from a distance like you are doing because you have nothing to loose from your
AmericanArmchair. You even cannot claim 'independence' for Assam. You can simply
shout Bravo Bravo to the doomed ULFA because you want to give moral support
because they are dying anyway.
RB
- Original Message -
From:
Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:25
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
At 3:19 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>But there is a term for those who
wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a
position:
When one supports from a distance, why is one to wait,
brother?
*** It was NOT me who would NOT support ULFA because they may NOT
win as in the now immortalized quotes below:
>I will never support the
actions of ULFA from a distance
if I know their cases are doomed
.
What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to
win'
What gain one will have?
*** You tell us!
Are
you thinking of giving up your US Citizenship for take up a post of
Misinstry?
*** I don't about the ministry, but I sure ain't into phoolosophy!
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
At 2:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>an honorable
cause
Which may be the
WRONG cause as indicated by LDB.
*** Lohit wrote:
If ULFA truly
believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an
occupying force,
why would they surrender?
It does not mean "--may be the WRONG cause". That is grade school
English!
Or well worth supporting from a
distance?.
*** And why not? Is there a prohibition from some Buddhist
school or some such thing of thought that it is sinful? Immoral? Is it an
universal and/or self evident wrong or sin ?
But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the
wind blows before they take a position: It goes " Sucking up ( to those
who may be on the winning side) and p---ing down( on the side perceived to
be losing), a widely prevalent desi-trait!"
It is their country, their
cause.
What I have to
loose?.
*** Only if one is driven by a need to be on the winning
side.
I am US Citizen, as you know.
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a
Moral Question
>*** That is why I don't go
asking ULFA to go die for
me.
That is what
supporting ULFA means.
*** It does? I learn something
everyday.
>Moral support
to die because they are dying anyway?
*** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the
masters of their own fate.
>By saying
they will go to heaven?
*** You take a guess on that.
>Or you are
trying to make them immortal?
*** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people
look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle
against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit
of independence), at great risk to oneself.
>Support a
dying person by providing a Brahmin priest?
Not a chance! Buddhist will be it.
>But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be
WRONG.
*** He also said it may be right. He just did not
take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not
have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that
aspect at the moment.
It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant fo
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 3:19 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a position: When one supports from a distance, why is one to wait, brother? *** It was NOT me who would NOT support ULFA because they may NOT win as in the now immortalized quotes below: >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed . What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' What gain one will have? *** You tell us! Are you thinking of giving up your US Citizenship for take up a post of Misinstry? *** I don't about the ministry, but I sure ain't into phoolosophy! RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 2:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >an honorable cause Which may be the WRONG cause as indicated by LDB. *** Lohit wrote: If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? It does not mean "--may be the WRONG cause". That is grade school English! Or well worth supporting from a distance?. *** And why not? Is there a prohibition from some Buddhist school or some such thing of thought that it is sinful? Immoral? Is it an universal and/or self evident wrong or sin ? But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a position: It goes " Sucking up ( to those who may be on the winning side) and p---ing down( on the side perceived to be losing), a widely prevalent desi-trait!" It is their country, their cause. What I have to loose?. *** Only if one is driven by a need to be on the winning side. I am US Citizen, as you know. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway. >But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? By saying they will go to heaven? Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Or
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a position: When one supports from a distance, why is one to wait, brother? What gain one will have? Are you thinking of giving up your US Citizenship for take up a post of Misinstry?RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 2:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >an honorable cause Which may be the WRONG cause as indicated by LDB. *** Lohit wrote: If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? It does not mean "--may be the WRONG cause". That is grade school English! Or well worth supporting from a distance?. *** And why not? Is there a prohibition from some Buddhist school or some such thing of thought that it is sinful? Immoral? Is it an universal and/or self evident wrong or sin ? But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a position: It goes " Sucking up ( to those who may be on the winning side) and p---ing down( on the side perceived to be losing), a widely prevalent desi-trait!" It is their country, their cause. What I have to loose?. *** Only if one is driven by a need to be on the winning side. I am US Citizen, as you know. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying a
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question At 2:45 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >an honorable cause Which may be the WRONG cause as indicated by LDB. *** Lohit wrote: If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? It does not mean "--may be the WRONG cause". That is grade school English! Or well worth supporting from a distance?. *** And why not? Is there a prohibition from some Buddhist school or some such thing of thought that it is sinful? Immoral? Is it an universal and/or self evident wrong or sin ? But there is a term for those who wait to to see which way the wind blows before they take a position: It goes " Sucking up ( to those who may be on the winning side) and p---ing down( on the side perceived to be losing), a widely prevalent desi-trait!" It is their country, their cause. What I have to loose?. *** Only if one is driven by a need to be on the winning side. I am US Citizen, as you know. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway. >But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? By saying they will go to heaven? Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Or you are trying to make them immortal? But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. Show us the beef. Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? Are you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency. *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see which
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question PHOOLOSOPHY! At 2:42 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. And I support their dying for their believe? Being masters of their own fate is one thing and dying in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate is another, supporting from a distance in their dying while trying to be the the masters of their own fate is another It sounds like saying, I believe in their going to heaven and having 1000 virgins in heaven. Go for it ULFA. Well worth dying for. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway. >But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? By saying they will go to heaven? Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Or you are trying to make them immortal? But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. Show us the beef. Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? Are you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency. *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, before I decide whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS more clearly! No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the sub-c
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
>an honorable cause
Which may be the WRONG cause as
indicated by LDB.
Or well worth supporting from a
distance?.
It is their country, their
cause.
What I have to loose?.
I am US Citizen, as you
know.
RB
- Original Message -
From:
Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
>*** That is why I don't go asking
ULFA to go die for me.
That is what supporting ULFA
means.
*** It does? I learn something everyday.
>Moral support to die because
they are dying anyway?
*** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their
own fate.
>By saying they will go to
heaven?
*** You take a guess on that.
>Or you are trying to make
them immortal?
*** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it.
Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds
for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to
oneself.
>Support a dying person by
providing a Brahmin priest?
Not a chance! Buddhist will be it.
>But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be
WRONG.
*** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position
on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He
just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment.
It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one
part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation.
>How do you make one
immortal who die for a wrong cause?
*** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need.
'--but I may
decide otherwise if they have a chance to win'
*** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality.
It is a question whole Assam has
been asking ULFA.
*** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter?
>Show us the
beef.
*** You can't eat it and have it too.
>Are you Lasit or you are
playing games with people of Assam?
*** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of
being named a Barphukan, like Badan either.
>Are you real or are
flirting--
Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over.
>-- with the name of
'sovereignty' and making money for yourself?
That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out!
Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are
mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with.
Now will you explain YOUR
morality?
At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to
go die for me.
That is what supporting ULFA means.
You
are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are
dying anyway.
>But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I
could do is give them MORAL support
Moral support to die because they are dying
anyway?
By
saying they will go to heaven?
Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin
priest?
Or
you are trying to make them immortal?
But
as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG.
How
do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause?
'--but I may
decide otherwise if they have a chance to win'
It
is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA.
Show us the beef.
Are
you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam?
Are
you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for
yourself?
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
>When one asks
someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of
morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency.
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But
if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL
support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger
into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, before I decide
whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a
distance if I know their
cases are doomed
What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is
:'--but I may decide otherwise if they have
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. And I support their dying for their believe? Being masters of their own fate is one thing and dying in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate is another, supporting from a distance in their dying while trying to be the the masters of their own fate is another It sounds like saying, I believe in their going to heaven and having 1000 virgins in heaven. Go for it ULFA. Well worth dying for. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway. >But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? By saying they will go to heaven? Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Or you are trying to make them immortal? But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. Show us the beef. Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? Are you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency. *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, bef
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. *** It does? I learn something everyday. >Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? *** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their own fate. >By saying they will go to heaven? *** You take a guess on that. >Or you are trying to make them immortal? *** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it. Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to oneself. >Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Not a chance! Buddhist will be it. >But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. *** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment. It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation. >How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? *** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need. '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' *** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality. It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. *** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter? >Show us the beef. *** You can't eat it and have it too. >Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? *** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of being named a Barphukan, like Badan either. >Are you real or are flirting-- Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over. >-- with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out! Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with. Now will you explain YOUR morality? At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. That is what supporting ULFA means. You are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway. >But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support Moral support to die because they are dying anyway? By saying they will go to heaven? Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin priest? Or you are trying to make them immortal? But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG. How do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause? '--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' It is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA. Show us the beef. Are you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam? Are you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency. *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, before I decide whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed . What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS more clearly! No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the sub-conscious showed up loud and clear Rajen. Hai bidhata ! c At 12:54 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of expediency. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo. *** That is NOT morality. That is called expediency! That damned English language again!!! At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >"*** I don't 'CLAI
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for
me.
That is what supporting ULFA
means.
You are supporting from the comfort
of the American Armchair because they are dying anyway.
>But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the
least I could do is give them MORAL support
Moral support to die because they
are dying anyway?
By saying they will go to heaven?
Support a dying person by providing
a Brahmin priest?
Or you are trying to make them
immortal?
But as LDB has indicated,
their cause may be WRONG.
How do you make one immortal who
die for a wrong cause?
'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a
chance to win'
It is a question whole Assam has
been asking ULFA.
Show us the beef.
Are you Lasit or you are playing
games with people of Assam?
Are you real or are flirting with
the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for yourself?
RB
- Original Message -
From:
Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
>When one asks someone else
to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality,
question of >ethics, not of expediency.
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are
dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not
material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see
which way the wind is blowing, before I decide whether to support them
or to damn them; as in : >I will never
support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed .
What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to
win'
You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS more clearly!
No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the sub-conscious showed up loud
and clear Rajen.
Hai bidhata !
c
At 12:54 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that
becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of
expediency.
RB
- Original Message -
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
>Morally I will never
support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are
doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo.
*** That is NOT morality. That is called
expediency!
That damned English language again!!!
At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>"*** I don't 'CLAIM
independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a well-wisher of
Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty aspirations
"
- Chandan:
>I am an US citizen, as you
know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM independence for
Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you
think?
- Chandan
>If ULFA truly believes
(rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why
would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender?
Would>Subhas Bose have surrendered to the
British?
- LDB
>A very mature letter. A man
after my own heart :-).
- Chandan
>I have heard of all kinds of
excuses people hold out why independence is scary for them, but
never heard of this boogie you brought out.
Chandan
Somehow the above
comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to support
ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a
distance. We can always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire
such aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because we
have nothing to loose.
I would rather
comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda.
>"And coming from someone like yourself, who
probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the
country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular society
with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming,
hypocritical"
Morally I will never
support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are
doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join them if
I believe what they believe.
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency. *** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, before I decide whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed . What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is :'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a chance to win' You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS more clearly! No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the sub-conscious showed up loud and clear Rajen. Hai bidhata ! c At 12:54 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of expediency. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo. *** That is NOT morality. That is called expediency! That damned English language again!!! At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >"*** I don't 'CLAIM independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty aspirations " - Chandan: >I am an US citizen, as you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you think? - Chandan >If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender? Would >Subhas Bose have surrendered to the British? - LDB >A very mature letter. A man after my own heart :-). - Chandan >I have heard of all kinds of excuses people hold out why independence is scary for them, but never heard of this boogie you brought out. Chandan Somehow the above comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to support ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a distance. We can always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire such aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because we have nothing to loose. I would rather comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda. >"And coming from someone like yourself, who probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular society with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming, hypocritical" Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join them if I believe what they believe. RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question When one asks someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of expediency. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo. *** That is NOT morality. That is called expediency! That damned English language again!!! At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >"*** I don't 'CLAIM independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty aspirations " - Chandan: >I am an US citizen, as you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you think? - Chandan >If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender? Would>Subhas Bose have surrendered to the British? - LDB >A very mature letter. A man after my own heart :-). - Chandan >I have heard of all kinds of excuses people hold out why independence is scary for them, but never heard of this boogie you brought out. Chandan Somehow the above comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to support ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a distance. We can always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire such aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because we have nothing to loose. I would rather comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda. >"And coming from someone like yourself, who probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular society with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming, hypocritical" Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join them if I believe what they believe. RB ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
Title: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question >Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo. *** That is NOT morality. That is called expediency! That damned English language again!!! At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote: >"*** I don't 'CLAIM independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty aspirations " - Chandan: >I am an US citizen, as you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you think? - Chandan >If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender? Would >Subhas Bose have surrendered to the British? - LDB >A very mature letter. A man after my own heart :-). - Chandan >I have heard of all kinds of excuses people hold out why independence is scary for them, but never heard of this boogie you brought out. Chandan Somehow the above comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to support ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a distance. We can always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire such aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because we have nothing to loose. I would rather comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda. >"And coming from someone like yourself, who probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular society with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming, hypocritical" Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join them if I believe what they believe. RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral Question
>"*** I don't 'CLAIM independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty aspirations " - Chandan: >I am an US citizen, as you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you think? - Chandan >If ULFA truly believes (rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force, why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender? Would >Subhas Bose have surrendered to the British? - LDB >A very mature letter. A man after my own heart :-). - Chandan >I have heard of all kinds of excuses people hold out why independence is scary for them, but never heard of this boogie you brought out. Chandan Somehow the above comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to support ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light Brigade" from a distance. We can always support such aspirirations, and in fact inspire such aspirations from the comfort of America Armchair, because we have nothing to loose. I would rather comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda. >"And coming from someone like yourself, who probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular society with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming, hypocritical" Morally I will never support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join them if I believe what they believe. RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
