[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into DAC
I have a similar problem with my Meridian DAC. I'm using the Optical interface between the DAC and the SB3 and the coax vetween it and a CD player. The Optical interface needs no signal to be present for the co-axial input to work. I have changed the setting as described but still doesnt work so I'm wondering if the fibre is still lit. Any ideas? -- adrianh1960 adrianh1960's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30985 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter setup with Bryston - Balanced levels
Eric, I use both outputs - Balanced XLR and Unbalanced RCA. They are directly connected between the Transporter and the Bryston 4B-ST. The RCA is a entry-level MIT cable ($75?) and the XLR is a cheap generic purchased at a musicians shop. The Bryston has a switch on the back that let's you toggle between the two. The default sound levels are close, with the RCA output slightly higher. I haven't changed the internal dip switches on the Transporter, - didn't see a need. I don't play music very loud, and a setting of around -12 on the Transporter is working for me. What speakers do you use? Ed Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- forward1 forward1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9228 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31096 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels
adamslim;165915 Wrote: Radio 3. Worth moving to the UK for :) The Optimod is only off in the evenings.. :o) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30898 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
Pat Farrell;166028 Wrote: I was going to demand timeslips or dyno charts to prove your claim of 10 HP from just a pipe and jet kit. Now you're talking! HA! Ye of little faith! See attachment with before and after results: +---+ |Filename: before_and_after_small.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2204| +---+ -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?
The TP has PRAT in spades IMO. It gets the rythm and articulation right. Give it a listen. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31053 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?
ModelCitizen;165853 Wrote: But, to put this into some sort of context, nothing I've tried sounds as good as my NAIM CDX CD player which just seems to have more depth, body, welly and sheer musicality than anything else I've heard.Fortunately I just happen to have a CDX for Sale. One owner, bought new from Grahams in London around 2001 IIRC. Why not have two? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31053 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
Looks like it was hardly worth bothering. Nobody can -possibly- tell a difference that small ... ;-) -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
jmourik;166111 Wrote: Now you're talking! HA! Ye of little faith! See attachment with before and after results: I'm sure that little burst of extra torque at 135mph makes all the difference :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
95bcwh;166021 Wrote: Is this another thread intending at rediculing those who offers mods, and those who buy mods? No. I was trying to understand why so many people feel that everything audio must be modified to get satisfactory performance. Why does this urge apply to only a few areas- audio and engines being the main ones I can think of? Is it more cost effective to modify a less expensive item or to buy an item whose performance satisfies you without any modification? What is the historical origin of the audio modification industry? Is the modification business as old as the hi-fi business? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
tyler_durden;166127 Wrote: No. I was trying to understand why so many people feel that everything audio must be modified to get satisfactory performance. Why does this urge apply to only a few areas- audio and engines being the main ones I can think of? Is it more cost effective to modify a less expensive item or to buy an item whose performance satisfies you without any modification? What is the historical origin of the audio modification industry? Is the modification business as old as the hi-fi business? TD It's as old as Man... or at least Males. Look at the people who Overclock and tweak every piece of PC hardware imaginable. That goes back to people playing with tubes and reading Popular Mechanics in their basement... Actually, that there may be the key: pick up a copy of PM and notice that despite the name it isnt just about cars, it is about anything you can take a screwdriver to and open up. I never liked cars, but when I was a kid I read PM every month for columns on electronics and construction Part of my Everything you want to know about people, you can learn from TV: watch Home Improvement and you will understand males. More Power is always better. (Or listen to Ray Davies tell his story of the Little Green Amp on his Storyteller cd.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
I think you're limiting the scope of what people mod. Anything where people want performance, but the product is expensive, is modded: Hifi and cars for sure, but also computers, houses (I've just been DIY-ing!). What about artists? Where would we be if they didn't experiment with media (even just combining paints)? Music - ever heard a prepared piano? How many ways are there to mute a trumpet? People mod their bed with feather mattress covers. I'm sure it gives a performance boost ;) Sure you don't do much with your fridge (you'll adjust the shelves to your liking, but that's within the design), but such a commodity item has no real performance element. To get an improvement, you need a bigger and more stylish model, which can't be achieved with a mod. So I don't think audio is unique in any way. I think it's nice that you can make subtle changes to something you like to improve it (or just make you happier with it), and completely consistent with people's desire to improve their lives within their limited means. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?
wdrazek;166108 Wrote: Intitially I thought I might try the Bolder mods and see if that would work but it seems like everyone here recommends getting a DAC first. This is the only place where I have seen that, maybe due to a preponderance of objectivist audiophiles (an oxymoron?) here. If you go to AudioCircles, for example, you'll find the opposite and many review and comparison threads. It seems to me that going the SB mod route (digital mods at a minimum if you have decided on a DAC) is the logical thing to do, because a DAC by itself can't improve on the source. -- vdorta Silent computer (Chenming MATX-118, Yate Loon case fan on rubber grommets Zalman Fan-Mate, Asus A8N-VM CSM, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, 2GB Corsair XMS, Hitachi 250GB SATA II on rubber grommets, Zalman 7000-AlCu, EAC/FLAC) -- Inguz Room Correction -- wireless SB2 (Bolder digital analog mods, Sonicap Platinum bypass caps, Bolder Deluxe Power Supply) -- Stello M200 monos -- ACI Sapphire XLs + REL Storm III | Chaintech AV-710 -- JMT PPA headamp -- AKG K601, Etymotics ER-4S vdorta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31053 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
This is all interesting. However, the picture I'm getting here is that these kinds of recordings are the exception, not the rule. Moreover, it has to do with a perceptual trick and not the actual physics of how point source sound waves hit your ears. Still, I was unaware of these recording techniques and will seek out some of the recommendations. Again, in my experience, and from what i have learned, the rule and not the exception is that good stereo imaging pretty much happens between the speakers. The stuff you beyond that is artifice (as above) or reflection. This leads to one obvious question: how to judge, given specs, how a particular speaker, in a particular (generic) room will handle such recordings. I would imagine that the speaker and not the electronics is paramount is achieving the effect. Happy New Year from way down south! -- lafayette Sweet Home Alabama lafayette's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
lafayette;166146 Wrote: This is all interesting. However, the picture I'm getting here is that these kinds of recordings are the exception, not the rule. Moreover, it has to do with a perceptual trick and not the actual physics of how point source sound waves hit your ears. But Stereo itself is a perceptual trick. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
lafayette wrote: This is all interesting. However, the picture I'm getting here is that these kinds of recordings are the exception, not the rule. Moreover, it has to do with a perceptual trick and not the actual physics of how point source sound waves hit your ears. Snarly beat me to it, all stereo is a perceptual trick. And there are nearly no point sources in the world. Look at an acoustic guitar. You get sound from the fingerboard, body, strings themselves, sound hole, etc. The body radiates different sounds from the front, sides, and back. Phase is how humans hear. It is critical to identifying location, it is how we knew where the lion was. Phase is not talked about a lot because it is hard to get right This leads to one obvious question: how to judge, given specs, how a particular speaker, in a particular (generic) room will handle such recordings. I would imagine that the speaker and not the electronics is paramount is achieving the effect. You can't judge speakers by specs. You have to listen to them. You should listen to them in your room. Or at least a room like where you will be listening. You need to listen to music that you know and like. Getting the phase right is what Quad ESLs and Maggies do right. Getting it nearly right is what mini-monitors do much better than full range speakers. But neither mini-monitors nor flat panels can deliver much bass, or have the bass be seamless with the mid-bass on up. I think one or two of the uber expensive speakers, like the $50,000 PipeDreams are reviewed to have both imaging and continuousness, but they are way out of my budget and flunk WAF too much for me to even find a dealer to listen to them. You pays your money and you makes your choices. -- Pat Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bioinformatx.com ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
lafayette;166146 Wrote: ..in my experience, and from what i have learned, the rule and not the exception is that good stereo imaging pretty much happens between the speakers. The stuff you beyond that is artifice (as above) or reflection. But (to augment SnarlyDwarf's and Pat Farell's responses still further), it is all artifice - every bit of it, the whole shebang, from musician to speakers. What is music, if not artifice? And that's before you go anywhere near the Black Stereophonic Arts. This is no more artifice than any of the other tricks practised in the attempt to create perfection in an imperfect world, to restore Nature to what it was as somebody wrote 400 years ago. If we all wanted to eschew artifice, we'd be sitting in fields and listening to blackbirds, not in padded cells to loud amplified noises. (Although one might be drawn while there to reflect that even that isn't such certain advice as would have been thought a few years ago, given all we've found out in the last few years about the individuality and practiced skills inherent in birdsong). Anyway, enough of the metaphysical ramblings. A Happy and prosperous New Year to all! -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter setup with Bryston - Balanced levels
I have on order the Paradigm Referene Studio 60 v.4 based on an audition and some research I did. I see from the Bryston manual web page the 4B-ST does not have the gain switch on it that I am wondering about on the 3B-SST... interesting. You can select balanced or unbalanced but not the input sensitivity. The professional version of the 4B-ST has a pot on the front to select gain but no switch. Based on reading I have been doing in this forum I think I understand the issue better now. The problems are basically: 1. amp clipping due to overdrive of amp input 2. speaker risk due to overdriving amp input 3. Risk to wife's ears due to accidentally setting the volume too high due to too high input sensitivity 4. possible issues of operating the Tp 40dB or more down on the digital volume control as routine (risk of loss of SNR) So I think I will hook it up, try it on 2V setting and see what the volume control says in comparison to 0dB. If I have to run the Tp volume control really far down, I will perhaps shift over to unbalanced and use the built in manual attenuators. If you are running your Tp at -12dB (or is -12 actually -6dB, not sure) then hopefully I won't have any issues at all, since, as far as I can tell, the 4B-ST is using the equivalent of the 1V setting on the 3B-SST. Thanks for the input! -- Eric Carroll Eric Carroll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9293 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31096 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter setup with Bryston - Balanced levels
Ed, Another question for you. Did your post early mean that you can hear the difference between balanced and unbalanced and that you prefer balanced? -- Eric Carroll Eric Carroll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9293 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31096 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?
wdrazek;166108 Wrote: Sonofcolin: Sounds like you have a sweet setup. I looked into the Ack and although it looks sweet I'm a little nervous about draining the battery. Friday night my wife left the music on all night. Would doing that once or twice fry the battery? And, do you know the price or availability of replacements? I didn't see any info on the Ack website. I'll be interested to know how the Bolder mods effect the SB3 in transport mode. The battery isn't an issue. You shouldn't leave the DAC on for more than 8 hours (10 max) to conserve battery life. You can't kill it in 1 session. New battery pack is about $70. I have a TT and I never forget to remove the arm after playing a record. Easy concept to apply to the dAck! If your interested in the dAck! you should contact Christopher Own - Mr dAck! He's very good at answering your questions or concerns and has experience with NAIM setups. The digital outs on the SB3 are excellent. Feed a good DAC and you have a top notch digital source, no question. The mods bring clear refinement to my ears. YMMV. To my ears (and my wifes) the SB3/dAck! 2.0 has greater resolution and subtlety compared to the CDX/XPS. Both have big expansive sounds and great rhythm. The SB3 combo makes live performances sound much more 'real.' If I only listened to techno DB I would quite happily live with the CDX/XPS for ever! -- sonofcolin sonofcolin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31053 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
My latest mod, Eight Nerve triangles and rectangles... +---+ |Filename: eigthnerve.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2206| +---+ -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
jmourik;166190 Wrote: My latest mod, Eight Nerve triangles and rectangles... Jan...you gotta do one more mod - adding carpet to the floor.. -- 95bcwh 95bcwh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything
95bcwh;166196 Wrote: Jan...you gotta do one more mod - adding carpet to the floor.. Somehow I don't think that will fly with the wife... -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31061 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
lafayette, This phenomena requires the preservation of phase coherence. You are quite right that the reflections coming from objects in and walls of the room will diminish or destroy the regular stereo, as well as this interesting phase, effect. Air's Carmel Prisoner on the album 10,000 Hz Legend is another great example with a tone near the end that sounds like it circles your head. -- The Smokester The Smokester's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width
Pat Farrell;165528 Wrote: Pot, hemp, weed, MJ, Acapulco Gold, etc. OH. You mean... (looks around furtively)... -Mary Jane!- -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
