Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Inline Adapter
On 2008-09-15T08:28:18, Lars Ellenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The restart of the secondary is not just spurious though. It might actually help fix (or at least reset) things. Restarts are amazingly simple and effective. hmm. You've got to admit that it's a valid point ;-) that was more a disagreeing grumble. it may also break things. How so? if we set aside confused admins for the moment, and assume CRM is the only entity promoting/demoting drbd. would it not be enough for a Primary on connection loss to set some constraint pinning the master role on that node/node group? the DRBD after-resync handler can then remove that contraint again. The idea is interesting. A RA modifying its own constraints ... However, it wouldn't work for a true split-brain. If the primary does that before being fenced by the secondary (which, given awkward circumstances for the split-brain, is possible), and the partition heals, the master would be pinned to the wrong node briefly. Also, given that it is a split-brain and the constraint is only on one side, the secondary would allow itself to be promoted - okay, so the cluster never would before the primary has been fenced, but neither must the master continue before the secondary has been fenced ... Does that make sense? Regards, Lars -- Teamlead Kernel, SuSE Labs, Research and Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-HA-Dev: Linux-HA-Dev@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha-dev Home Page: http://linux-ha.org/
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Inline Adapter
tricka;340438 Wrote: Pity about your manners. I don't have a horse in this race, but reading over the comments I don't understand what could have offended you. Yes, they were somewhat skeptical - that's of course to be expected in this situation - but I don't see the slightest bit of actual rudeness. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker talk: small difficult rooms
Nonreality;340189 Wrote: I'm sure that it's not just me but you are making me a bit curious about youself. Is it ok to ask about your history a bit as it sounds very cool to me? You have a bunch of knowledge, live on a boat, and now some history to go with it. If I'm intruding I do apologize in advance. I'm trying to recover from a serious cold here so my replies are a bit slow... So, about me, nothing special really. I studied analog electronics, digital electronics incl. computer design and later information technology. Started my first IT company in 1987 when I was released from the army where I had spent 14 months maintaining and tuning guidance systems in Leopard tanks. Started building Internet infrastructure in 1993 and was actually the first commercial ISP in Holland. Sold it all in 2002 and emigrated the country without ever immigrating another country, living on a boat; so we're like gypsies now, free from the grips of government as far as that's possible. The reason I'm interested in Dutch history is a combination of me being Dutch, finding Dutch colonial remains during our travels but most importantly the fact that the English tried very hard (with success) to change history because they were sooo disgraced by the Dutch victories. It's only now that the truth bubbles up in historical research. cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52570 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
So, back on thread for a moment, if I wanted to give this a whirl what what be an appropriate size for one of the commercially available on-line UPS? It looks as though they start at 700VA - would this be enough for a CD Player, Transporter, Preamp, and triode power amp? -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
browellm;340579 Wrote: So, back on thread for a moment, if I wanted to give this a whirl what what be an appropriate size for one of the commercially available on-line UPS? It looks as though they start at 700VA - would this be enough for a CD Player, Transporter, Preamp, and triode power amp? Probably: I'm not yet convinced it's necessarily a good idea to put ones power amps onto one of these although the current demand of a Class A amp is pretty steady. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
Come to think of it, my Art Audio Quintet is already modded with a Border Patrol PSU, so I would only really need to hook up the other components. -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
The main USP of these UPS's (sorry) for us is the fact that with an on-line UPS the connected equipment is never connected to the mains... It seems to me that ANY equipment could benefit from using a synthesised, battery powered AC supply. However, looking at my gear it's my 6 power amps that drain all the current and thus push up the price of the UPS. I reckon I could run the rest of my (quite complex) rig on a 1000VA UPS. Now, if I could only find one that was: 1) on-line 2) cheapish 3) smallish I could give it a try. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 direct connect to power amp?
Thanks for the responses. I am aware of the concerns listed in the Wiki (primarily having no volume control in case of failure) but I guess my primary concern was from an audiophile perspective. I have read that a big problem with passive setups is that many sources aren't up to the task of driving power amps directly. Whatever that means! I'm wondering how capable the SB3 is as a source to drive the Bedini directly without any active amp stage to help it along? -- Kellen Kellen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52577 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 direct connect to power amp?
Kellen;340598 Wrote: Thanks for the responses. I am aware of the concerns listed in the Wiki (primarily having no volume control in case of failure) but I guess my primary concern was from an audiophile perspective. I have read that a big problem with passive setups is that many sources aren't up to the task of driving power amps directly. Whatever that means! I'm wondering how capable the SB3 is as a source to drive the Bedini directly without any active amp stage to help it along? The SB3 should be perfectly capable of directly driving the Bedini. Passive preamps are a whole different issue!. Also, using fixed attenuators will cause no audible degradation of the sound and will keep your speakers (and amp) safe from harm. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52577 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
I've been looking at them here: http://www.cppsales.com/section/100/1/rielloupsdialogplus Price seems decent, although there's VAT to add. -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?
I use a Apogee mini dac (see my system in the system topic). And I am pretty happy with it, owning it for more than 3 years now. The only negative point in my objective is the lack of multiple coax inputs. -- bartverwaaijen bartverwaaijen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49316 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?
GreenMan;338334 Wrote: Is there any diff between the DAC on the SB2 and the SB3? I've got an SB2. Not in the DAC's but there is a subtle difference in the PSU arrangements IIRC. Not a massive deal by any means. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49316 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Inline Adapter
Hostile skepticism Sean does not pass for being well mannered in my book. Something along the line of that looks interesting perhaps you would care to share abit more about... would have sufficed. Very well: It is my friend Ricky that is the telecommunications engineer not I. I just research the various mods out there and work with him on what we think will work. He traces all the circuits and does the lectronics. We live 800 miles from each other. Adding an inline transformer will not reverse the ferrite's action, it would only reduce the EMI. He did notice that on the scope. If the inductors L8 and L9 inside the SB3 are bypassed eg in the internal mod, the HF roll-off will be improved. There is a trade-off with the L8 and L9 bypassed, the pulse transformer must be used with the SB3 to reduce the EMI. The advantage of the Inline Pulse Transformer adapter is no internal mods and can be used with different S/PDIF links. He is gauging the effectiveness of the inline adapter by user's feedbacks, so far has been positive. The improvements are various between the combinations of sources and DACs, some combinations may be more noticeable than the others. I have posted the pics again along with the link to the pulse transformer for those that are interested. Pulse Transformer is this one: http://au.farnell.com/1087809/electrical/product.us0?sku=MURATA-POWER-SOLUTIONS-76601-3C_requestid=196962 Tricka +---+ |Filename: P1000618_R.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5864| +---+ -- tricka SB3 (digi out mod) - Lavry DA10 - Tecon Se34i, Reckhorn 401 Sub amp Hawthorne SSI Duet OB tricka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11614 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Inline Adapter
No ridicule from me, I'm not even gonna comment on it other than the physical implementation as seen on the photo's in the previous message. The following two observations bring me to the conclusion below: 1. I read that thread with the scope-traces and it was mentioned that there was distortion caused by the core exiting the braid in the coax. If one takes that for accurate and: 2. On the photo here, the two pcb traces are cut only at the RCA connector. Than, the mod can be improved by also cutting the same two traces at the primary side of the transformer. Now, they are stubs and will cause an echo. cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power supply / conditioning
Just test your system like I describe in an earlier post in this thread. The UPS will not make a difference if your AC is clean already or if any noise on your AC doesn't make it to your speakers. Both scenarios can be measured by everyone who -knows- how to use a scope. Even if you have to pay someone to do this for you, that will be way cheaper than first buying a small UPS for trying out... and you might not even hear what the scope will show you. Also: if you amp isn't class A you can use a small UPS on low volume setting. cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52348 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
