Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters for $1300?
jh901;477317 Wrote: There is one listing on Audiogon that is from an AUTHORIZED dealer: n...@soundsciencecat.com Has anyone ordered from him? Maybe I can verify that he is an authorized dealer? I have bought a Transporter and Duet controller from Neal at different times . He was great with both. I had a problem with the controller and he dealt with it without question or hassle. I would gladly deal with him again. I would be very surprised if he isn't an authorized dealer but I don't know for sure.He has been around for awhile and I think you can deal with him with confidence IMO. -- Marcner Marcner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68177 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Duet+DAC?
Thanks for the answer. Well, I would want to go with the following upgrade route : - SB3 or Duet (have both) + Lavry DA-10 (current setup) to - - TP standalone, or TP + Lavry to - - TP + more expensive external DAC (I am considering EMM Labs, Berkeley etc. I have the possibility to hear the EMM DCC2, but not the TP, hence my questions) I read about the digital outputs in the touch being better than the ones in the SB3, but I thought that the Transporter digital outs should have the lowest jitter anyway, and the Transporter offers extra connectivity (AES, word clock, etc). Anyone else compared the digital outs of SB3 vs Transporter ? Maybe Sean ? :) -- loserica loserica's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transport user queries
FARQ;477601 Wrote: the rotel is only powering the drivers of the 703s, the denon is doing the mid/hi unfortunately I have limited space to work with as well, the speakers can't be positioned any differently Are you telling me you're bi-amping the 703's with two different amps ? oO If it's the case (if I understood properly) I advise you to use only one amp. Amplifiers interact with speakers, two amplifiers interact differently (damping factors, etc) and they can rarely be used in conjunction for bi-amping. Use just the Rotel, for instance, even with straps. If you find it is not enough for amping your speakers, then you should consider getting another power amp. -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital outputs?
reprogramming the xilinx never hurts but that's a long shot. Hold power until it resets, then press 1 when the logo appears. The only setting I can think of that might interfere with the digital outs is word clock on digital outputs - make sure that is DISabled (the default). But that's only supposed to come into play when TP is being used as a DAC. Unfortunately, I think you will probably need to send it in for a main board replacement. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70343 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter suddenly dead and not responding to anything
If you want to check the power supplies it is easy enough to do - IF it is the PSU then there's only one it could be in this case, which is a separate 5VDC module mounted between the main board and the display. If you see 110V going in (3-pin connector) and nothing coming out (4-pin connector), then it's bad. You might even convince Slim to send you just the module and save everyone on shipping. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70283 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter knob as volume control only
Mnyb;476850 Wrote: You have to register another account for bugzilla it is not the same as the forum , would probably filter out some noise and spam this way . But I think it would increase the bug reporting if it where the same login. Good to know, I move ahead on that but this sentence keep me off: -Bugzilla is an open bug tracking system. Activity on most bugs, including email addresses, will be visible to the public. We recommend using a secondary account or free web email service (such as Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, or similar) to avoid receiving spam at your primary email address.- Stupidwisely I have only one e-mail, so no spare to get spammed :-( Looks like I can only pray for TP center knob configuration get alone a higher priority... -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Duet+DAC?
Well, if you have a very good DAC, the sound should be better with the digital outs of the transporter than with those of the SB3. But I doubt very much that the Lavry DA-10 is a better DAC than the one in the transporter. It could well be that if you buy the transporter, the Lavry DAC has to retire. Another option would be to wait for the Touch. From the first reports, the digital outs are better sounding than the SB3 and you will be able to play 24/96 files. Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter suddenly dead and not responding to anything
I still have the problem, that I do not find the right tool to open the case, here in germany. Everywhere I searched they only have metric tools. I will update this thread, when I have discussed the issue with the support. -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70283 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital outputs?
What are your setting on the Audio page for the Transporter? You can set alternative options for Digital Output Encoding etc. You probably want the Volume Control fixed at 100% too. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70343 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Duet+DAC?
Hi guys My question was pretty simple I guess is it viable to buy a transporter only to use it as a transport (via the digital outs), when I already have a SB3 and a SBC ? -- loserica loserica's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital outputs?
bojo;477228 Wrote: How do i activate Transporters digital outputs? I have a Weiss Minerva DAC, and have tried connect to SPDIF, Toslink and AES/EBU outputs, but there is no signal. This might seem like an obvious question but I have to ask, Is the Volume turned up on the Transporter? If I remember correctly if one isn't using Fixed Volume, then Volume control happens in the digital domain meaning if its Muted or turned down, no Audio. Check your Volume settings on the TP and setting in SBS. If the Volume is Muted or below say -30dB you could very well have an active signal but not enough to drive an Amp or Pre-amp. Anyway, I just adjusted my Volume with the TP remote when I am feeding my DAC with S/PDIF. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70343 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transport user queries
Themis;476351 Wrote: Well, I suppose that the Denon's preamp stage covers (and influences) most of the differences between your DAC8 and the Transporter analog output. On the other hand, if you consider that the highs do appear to be quite brittle and harsh, especially at loud volumes then, probably, the power amp has some difficulties with the 703's. Or your room has a problem regarding the mid-high frequencies. I would suggest two things : First, you should try putting +12dB level on the analog input of the TP. If you still have the harsh on high volumes problem, try placing your speakers differently, or try a different amp. the rotel is only powering the drivers of the 703s, the denon is doing the mid/hi unfortunately I have limited space to work with as well, the speakers can't be positioned any differently earwaxer;477161 Wrote: Dont put the DAC on the amp. Dont put anything on the amp. First of all - The Rotel is second rate. Sorry - I had a Proton back in the 80's. It was great so I thought. It's all relative. When you get into the real stuff you are going to put your Rotel up for sale lickety split! My bias is get the hell out of class A/B. Either go tubes, or class T, D or pure class A. I tried mosfets - no way - I'm into class T now and I'm not turning back. I though about tubes at one stage but cap tweaking has done the trick. The Transport is one awesome sounding front end. Work on the other stuff and dont bitch about the Transport! bitch about the Transport? I fail to see ANYWHERE that I was actually bitching about the Transporter in the slightest. I was surprised at my initial response and limited testing of the TP, and the level to which it heats up compared to say my main amp, but that's about it! the Rotel isn't the best, but for the price point and sole purpose of powering the drivers of the 703s, it does a decent job of it, and far better than Bi-amping the 703s with the Denon... obviously the next bit to upgrade in my setup would be the Denon, but that's quite a way off yet. after giving it a good decent thrashing over the w/end, I've actually come to fall in love with the TP... I only had a chance to listen to CD's through the TP initially and not any of my digital music yet as it wasn't set up good god after firing up some of my digital music, I was absolutely blown away... never has my system sounded so damn good! playing CDs through the TP, whilst it still sounds good, seems to maybe be a bit hit and miss depending what I'm playing, however that's probably more to do with the Beosound not being all that flash quality CD player... which I knew when I bought it, I bought it as a nice functional 'looks good' piece for my house more than for high quality audio, which is why it needs a good DAC. all n all I'm extremely happy with the TP, just need to look at the heat issues cos it's going to be a right bitch in summer, maybe try and get some bigger feet in there to give it a bit more space -- FARQ FARQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Duet+DAC?
loserica;477717 Wrote: Anyone else compared the digital outs of SB3 vs Transporter ? Maybe Sean ? :) I did A/B them with a Northstar192 dac. Not much difference, if any. Not enough, in any case, to justify the price difference imho. The TP is a nice dac in itself, and keeping transport+dac in the same box is a far better solution design-wise (and jitter-wise) than two separates. Things get better with outboard dacs, as time passes, nevertheless, you'll need a better dac than the TP to counter-balance the spdif interface quality drop. And a *better* dac at this price-range becomes hard to find... -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem with Transporter Toslink Input
I want to use my transporter as a DAC for my mac mini, as well as my cable box, and DVD player. I prefer the transporter used as intended, but i have a number of Playlists that are based on Playcount, and these are more easily managed in iTunes. however, when taking the optical output from my mini, into the TP's optical in, i get no sound. I've tried adjusting the bit rate/depth in the Audio Midi control panel (various options at 44.1/48/96kz, and 16/24 word length) but none produces sound. I've verified the input and cable are working, by using another source (cable TV). and the TP will accept a signal from the mini if i take a USB outto a HagUSB--SPDIF converter, and then to the TP. Plus, the mini toslink out works into other dacs. any thoughts as to what might be going on? -- netchord netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70437 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Duet+DAC?
loserica;477588 Wrote: Hi guys My question was pretty simple I guess is it viable to buy a transporter only to use it as a transport (via the digital outs), when I already have a SB3 and a SBC ? In my case was the opposite of themis. I use the transporter as a transport-only with aes/ebu digital out to my dac. It might be the aes/ebu implementation the equipment, the cable or both, but the TP was recognizably better than a coax out sb3. -- GuyDebord '*LAST.FM*' (http://www.last.fm/user/bloodyrosa) - SPEAKERS: Kharma CRM 3.2FE - v/d Hul Inspiration - PRE: Lyngdorf DPA-1 - Kharma Grand Reference XLR's - AMP: Halcro MC20 - ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Basis Exclusive phono pre - Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II XLRs - DIGITAL: Slim Devices Transporter - Siltech Golden Ridge AES/EBU - AC: PS Audio Power Plant Premier, PS Audio Statement(PPP), ASR Magic Cord(ASR), Siltech SPX30 MKII's for the Lyngdorf, Halcro Transporter GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital outputs?
The volume is set at fixed 100%. I have tried the xlink reset. I have changed digital output between SPDIf and AES/EBU. I also chnged the startime for sound from 0 to 0,25. But there is no signal to the dac. Anyone who has an idea what`s wrong. -- bojo bojo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15282 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70343 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital outputs?
Sean is the man and if thinks it's broke, it probably is. Can you bypass the DAC and run coax directly into your preamp? -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70343 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transport user queries
Farq,my Transporter sits on the top shelf of my rack and always runs cool. i've been using a product called Black Ravioli for a number of years now,it was developed by a naval acoustics bod. i have each of my units supported by four of these pads and their isolation properties are pretty good. here's a link to the company and it's products. Cheers dennis http://www.blackravioli.co.uk/ +---+ |Filename: pad-1.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8560| +---+ -- dennis55 Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano Linn Products Akurate C4200 Totem Acoustics Forest SqueezeBox Radio Duet Controller Linn LP12/Cirkus/Ekos2/Dynavector DV17D2/Linn Linto/Linn Lingo1 last.fm/dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transport user queries
Themis;477642 Wrote: Are you telling me you're bi-amping the 703's with two different amps ? oO If it's the case (if I understood properly) I advise you to use only one amp. Amplifiers interact with speakers, two amplifiers interact differently (damping factors, etc) and they can rarely be used in conjunction for bi-amping. Use just the Rotel, for instance, even with straps. If you find it is not enough for amping your speakers, then you should consider getting another power amp. hmmm maybe it's not setup in the best configuration then? a number of places I went to who sell and consult on high end gear said the best option would be to use the bi-amp feature of the Denon for the 703s, and if I found that didn't power the drivers of the 703s enough, then get in a poweramp just for them ran the system in for a few weeks, wasn't happy with it, place I bought everything from and did the setup/cabling for me came out and put in the rotel to power the drivers of the 703s so the denon powers the DS7s, HTM7, just the mid-hi on the 703s, with the rotel powering the drivers on the 703s when I listen to music it's either in pure direct or 5ch stereo mode, on the odd occasion I watch a dvd/movie I use the surround sound mode of the denon i definitely do get better bass response from the 703 with the rotel powering the drivers than using the denon to bi-amp dennis55;478011 Wrote: Farq,my Transporter sits on the top shelf of my rack and always runs cool. i've been using a product called Black Ravioli for a number of years now,it was developed by a naval acoustics bod. i have each of my units supported by four of these pads and their isolation properties are pretty good. here's a link to the company and it's products. Cheers dennis http://www.blackravioli.co.uk/ great thanks for that dennis, will definitely check it out! -- FARQ FARQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem with Transporter Toslink Input
maybe it's using a surround encoding? Any option in system preferences - sound to change it to PCM? Other than that, maybe try playing it into an AV receiver and confirming that it works and comes up as PCM. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70437 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter suddenly dead and not responding to anything
The right tool is a 1/16 allen (hex) wrench, but a 1.5mm will also work. Often the easiest way to get these smaller tools is as part of a set - this one is my favorite: http://boxertiedown.com/wholesale/-c-33/30-piece-4mm-precision-screwdriver-set-p-513 A torx T-6 also fits almost perfectly. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70283 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem with Transporter Toslink Input
seanadams;478018 Wrote: maybe it's using a surround encoding? Any option in system preferences - sound to change it to PCM? Other than that, maybe try playing it into an AV receiver and confirming that it works and comes up as PCM. thanks, but i don't think i'm going to go out and buy an AV receiver to trouble shoot this problem. ;) i can confirm the Mini is outputting PCM, 16/44.1, to a PSAudio DLIII dac, via toslink, and it works quite well. there is a setting in the audio midi utility to output as encoded digital audio, aka bitstream. this option is not selected. -- netchord netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70437 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem with Transporter Toslink Input
also, just to so the environment is fully understood, my library is uncompressed AIFF files. i'm assuming the TP can handle these via the toslink input? -- netchord netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70437 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem with Transporter Toslink Input
Sorry but I can not imagine any reason for this not to work! -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70437 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter
cmarin;473353 Wrote: And IMHO high res files are the wave of the future. It seems the OP has left this thread, but I had to respond to this. Very few studios are tracking at 96k let alone 192k! The amount of required storage space is HUGE. Some of the best engineers in the business have said 96k isn't worth it, but the jump to 192k is getting close. STILL, no one is going to buy it. Look at how the DVD-A and SACD have survived? Heck, the DAT was supposed to kill the cassette back in '86! You're trying to sell GREAT sounding stuff to a consumer that's more than happy with a 128kbps MP3. Maybe higher quality audio on Blu-Ray will get some things going again. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego A.E.S., S.M.P.T.E., S.P.A.R.S. e...@seaberg.com Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
