Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
cfraser;680534 Wrote: Guess I'm not the only one then... :) That's why I mentioned I had to increase buffer size for some tt configs. And yes, it's *always* the LEFT channel. I guessed it was some process that was getting interrupted before completion, and that it was a process that handled the RIGHT data first. Not that I know how the software works, but it seemed among the reasonable (simplistic) interpretations... Exactly it is the left channel: advice will obey and Buffer will worth increase. What have you set around to avoid this imbalance there? Ill try with 4000 us. Jacky -- Jacky Jacky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38257 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
This thread had me experimenting again. It still baffles me that the audible differences between digital cables can be so large; between my Touch and Rega DAC I used to use an Oyaide 510. Beautiful well made cable, pure silver, multiple shields, and it sounded great with former dacs. However, with the Rega it sounded dull (something I associate with jitter) and was clearly beaten on all fronts by my current Canare Digiflex at 1/8 of the price. I used to think jitter and noise was all there was problemwise in digital cables, and could not understand why two well-made cables should sound so different, and why with one dac one cable sounded better, and with another dac another cable sounds better. Untill I read John Swensons post in this thread about impedance matching. Then I finally got an explanation of this synergy stuff. Thanks. Then I decided to buy a vdHul optocoupler. Differences between the toslink and the Canare coax were small, the coax sounding warmer and more euphonic with slightly more middbass weight and a cleaner treble. Interestingly, if I left the Canare in place while using the toslink, The toslink gained some of that coax midbass warmth, hinting that this was an artefact created by noise over the electrical connection between source and dac. I prefer the Canare, but have to admit perhaps the toslink connection is purer. Otoh, I also found this: http://thewelltemperedcomputer.com/Intro/SQ/Toslink_Coax.htm Hinting that coax has less jitter then toslink, which, if audible, could also explain the smoother treble of the coax. -- Dura Dura's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
Toslink's presentation is just very (for lack of a better word) -clean-. IMO it's the lack of an electronic connection, that makes for the blacker background, smoother treble, more solidified bass. -- steveinaz - transport: squeezebox touch / ci audio ps - dac: benchmark dac/pre - linestage: placette passive - power amplifier: parasound hca-1500a - speakers: fritz speakers carbon 7 monitor - cables: kimber hero/8tc v.2, dh labs d-75 steveinaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34707 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680588 Wrote: Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? TP We're mostly talking about the Touch, here, if that's what you're asking. Using Touch's digital out, here. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680588 Wrote: Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? Both (see sig). Out of TOUCH. ;-) Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680640 Wrote: ^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? It keeps the crazies off the street and out of trouble. ;-) -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
digital here! It's fun, and free. Why not? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0/SBGK)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
garym;680642 Wrote: It keeps the crazies off the street and out of trouble. ;-) Hey!..I resemble that remark ;). Regarding the op's questionif you asked Klaus, and others here, they'd probably say that, while the Touch's outputs are quite good, the basic philosophy is to try to make things even better by poking around in the Touch's guts and attempting to find, and either eliminate or reduce, hardware and/or software noise-producing processes. And that's as good an explanation is this numpty can give! Whether or not one subscribes to the belief that any of this has an audible impact on what your ears perceive is, of course, a matter of judgement and evaluation of your own ears and equipment combo. Klaus' TT mods (and the other tweaksthe mods of the mods) are free and relatively easy to install. I would certainly encourage folks to try and listen for themselves. If the TT mods doesn't improve anything, or sound worse, you've only invested a bit of time and they're easy to disable or uninstall. Best wishes for a happy and healthy New Year to you all. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
TheOctavist;680645 Wrote: digital here! It's fun, and free. Why not? ...and legal. So I don't disagree. -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680640 Wrote: ^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? Mo' better . . . Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
guidof;680652 Wrote: Mo' better . . .where you get your weed? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680659 Wrote: where you get your weed? The best kind, too. It's legal. (See garym's post). Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
rgro;680558 Wrote: Had a bit of time this evening and went all the way back to the original TT 3.0 settings and had a good listen. At least with my equipment and ears, there's a fair difference between those original TT 3.0 settings and SBGK's numbers. While the original TT 3.0 sound is, by comparison, what I would call polite, the sound with SBGK's values is downright exciting and, at least to my tastes, noticeably more realistic, detailed and, especially, it gets this startlingly bigger, wider,and deeper imaging/soundstage out of my speakers. All this without any roughness on the extreme highs (solo violins and sopranos!) and the decay on things like cymbals, triangle, tympani, etc. keeps going all the way to nothingness. I listened to Judy Collins' rendition of Amazing Grace and the feeling that I was sitting right in St. Paul's chapel with her and the choir was just uncanny...something I'd not experienced heretofore. And, of course, there is the delight at discovering those little details you've not heard before. As always, YMMV, but I'm definitely sticking to the SBGK numbers until/if something better comes along. I agree with you, but cannot attribute it only to SBGK's mods, l because I've applied them at the same time I've applied my Shunyata power cable and the Shakti stones. The difference in musicality is staggering. I guess it's time to switch back to vanilla TT3.0, everything else staying the same. Then I'll know for sure. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride;680675 Wrote: I agree with you, but cannot attribute it only to SBGK's mods, l because I've applied them at the same time I've applied my Shunyata power cable and the Shakti stones. The difference in musicality is staggering. I guess it's time to switch back to vanilla TT3.0, everything else staying the same. Then I'll know for sure. Oooohhh!!! Shakti stones sounds painful. Is there a cure? Chris :D -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
I am trying these settings, so far I like them better than all others I have tried. based on SBT base 45/50 with watchdog at 0 = more detail, air. irq45, 42, 17, 123 and 102 set to priority 41. impression is less dark than sbt base, but pretty much same bass, exquisite mid and no sibilance. nice theory by John s, but feel it is a software issue, SBT was designed as a consumer audio product, we are trying to use it as a high end hi fi source (for which it was never designed) and have learned that audio priority threads benefit from optimised priorities. its about getting the required job done at the required time which is why sound can become muddy and confused when priorities are wrong. PIDJIVEALSA=`pidof jive_alsa` #def: 45 #PIDJIVE=`pidof jive` #def: - PIDSIRQTASKLET0=`pidof sirq-tasklet/0` #def: 89 interrupt handler - should be higher then interrupts PIDSIRQHRTIMER=`pidof sirq-hrtimer/0` #def: 40 htimer of rtkernel - should be also very high PIDWATCHDOG=`pidof watchdog/0` #def: 99 PIDLOADAVG=`pidof loadavg` #def: 50 PIDOFPSXCPUTMR=`pidof posixcputmr/0` #def: 98 PIDIRQ47=`pidof IRQ-47` #def: 40 SPDIF -- any impact? PIDIRQ14=`pidof IRQ-14` #def: 40 PIDIRQ37=`pidof IRQ-37` #def: 40 USB can be put very low PIDIRQ34=`pidof IRQ-34` #def: 90 dma for processor ? PIDSIRNETTX=`pidof sirq-net-tx/0` #def: 40 network transmit PIDSIRNETRX=`pidof sirq-net-rx/0` #def: 40 network receive PIDIRQ17=`pidof IRQ-17` #def: 40 PIDIRQ42=`pidof IRQ-42` #def: 40 PIDIRQ45=`pidof IRQ-45` #def: 40 PIDIRQ102=`pidof IRQ-102` #def: 40 PIDIRQ123=`pidof IRQ-123` #def: 40 PRIOIRQ17=41 PRIOIRQ42=41 PRIOIRQ45=41 PRIOIRQ102=41 PRIOIRQ123=41 PRIOJIVEALSA=45 #PRIOJIVE=0 PRIOSIRQTASKLET0=89 PRIOSIRQHRTIMER=40 PRIOWATCHDOG=0 PRIOLOADAVG=50 PRIODOFPSXCPUTMR=98 PRIOIRQ47=40 PRIOIRQ14=40 PRIOIRQ37=40 PRIOIRQ34=90 PRIOSIRNETTX=40 PRIOSIRNETRX=40 echo PID - Jive-Alsa: $PIDJIVEALSA $LOG2 echo PRIO: $PRIOJIVEALSA $LOG2 chrt -f -p $PRIOJIVEALSA $PIDJIVEALSA $LOG2 21 #chrt -f -p $PRIOJIVE $PIDJIVE /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRQTASKLET0 $PIDSIRQTASKLET0 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRQHRTIMER $PIDSIRQHRTIMER /dev/null 21 chrt -o -p $PRIOWATCHDOG $PIDWATCHDOG /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOLOADAVG $PIDLOADAVG /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIODOFPSXCPUTMR $PIDOFPSXCPUTMR /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ47 $PIDIRQ47 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ14 $PIDIRQ14 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ37 $PIDIRQ37 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ34 $PIDIRQ34 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRNETTX $PIDSIRNETTX /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRNETRX $PIDSIRNETRX /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ17 $PIDIRQ17 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ42 $PIDIRQ42 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ45 $PIDIRQ45 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ102 $PIDIRQ102 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ123 $PIDIRQ123 /dev/null 21 -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Jacky;680570 Wrote: Exactly it is the left channel: advice will obey and Buffer will worth increase. What have you set around to avoid this imbalance there? Ill try with 4000 us. Jacky Jacky: I don't have a solution yet. To be honest, mostly I've been listening around the burr I hear in some aspects of the left channel higher frequencies. I am planning to look into it more after tomorrow. But last night I did play with the buffer size a bit. One setting was 5000 and that was MUCH worse than 4000. Which confused me, and I wasn't in a mindset to play with it much more as I wanted to listen to music... I should say that I can hear this little left hf burr even with plain ol' TT3.0 and all its default settings. Including TT3.0 with buffer size up to 4000, so it's not like it's unique to SBGK's configs or their variations. magiccarpetride: I have neither Shakti stones (always wanted to try one) nor a Venom 3 PC (want to get one) and I can assure you the new sound you're hearing is not primarily because of adding them to the mix. There is a very large diff between plain TT3.0 and SBGK, it is not something you have to listen attentively for, more like face-smackingly different... Do me/us a favor and listen very carefully to that left channel. Like with soundstage, Maggies can sometimes exaggerate shortcomings. So it might be that re the grit I'm hearing, it may be quite minor but is being magnified (by the speaker or my mind...). Anyway, more ears is always good. -- cfraser cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
f'n hilarious, this thread gives new meaning to audiophoolia. -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680685 Wrote: f'n hilarious, this thread gives new meaning to audiophoolia. please enlighten us about the new meaning, is there a cure ? do you have a point to make ? -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
It's why we have a separate sub-forum. Audio-heathens (the opposite of audiofools?) should wear full armour when entering. :) FWIW, I actually DO find this thread entertaining, much more so lately too. However, I do think it would be a little less rude if these tt config discussions had their own thread so that Klaus' thread was strictly dedicated to TT = more accessible to newcomers too... Just a thought...it must seem like incomprehensible gobbledygook to those who haven't started at the beginning. -- cfraser cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680678 Wrote: I am trying these settings, so far I like them better than all others I have tried. based on SBT base 45/50 with watchdog at 0 = more detail, air. irq45, 42, 17, 123 and 102 set to priority 41. impression is less dark than sbt base, but pretty much same bass, exquisite mid and no sibilance. oh and sweet, sweet sound. nice theory by John s, but feel it is a software issue, SBT was designed as a consumer audio product, we are trying to use it as a high end hi fi source (for which it was never designed) and have learned that audio priority threads benefit from optimised priorities. its about getting the required job done at the required time which is why sound can become muddy and confused when priorities are wrong. PIDJIVEALSA=`pidof jive_alsa` #def: 45 #PIDJIVE=`pidof jive` #def: - PIDSIRQTASKLET0=`pidof sirq-tasklet/0` #def: 89 interrupt handler - should be higher then interrupts PIDSIRQHRTIMER=`pidof sirq-hrtimer/0` #def: 40 htimer of rtkernel - should be also very high PIDWATCHDOG=`pidof watchdog/0` #def: 99 PIDLOADAVG=`pidof loadavg` #def: 50 PIDOFPSXCPUTMR=`pidof posixcputmr/0` #def: 98 PIDIRQ47=`pidof IRQ-47` #def: 40 SPDIF -- any impact? PIDIRQ14=`pidof IRQ-14` #def: 40 PIDIRQ37=`pidof IRQ-37` #def: 40 USB can be put very low PIDIRQ34=`pidof IRQ-34` #def: 90 dma for processor ? PIDSIRNETTX=`pidof sirq-net-tx/0` #def: 40 network transmit PIDSIRNETRX=`pidof sirq-net-rx/0` #def: 40 network receive PIDIRQ17=`pidof IRQ-17` #def: 40 PIDIRQ42=`pidof IRQ-42` #def: 40 PIDIRQ45=`pidof IRQ-45` #def: 40 PIDIRQ102=`pidof IRQ-102` #def: 40 PIDIRQ123=`pidof IRQ-123` #def: 40 PRIOIRQ17=41 PRIOIRQ42=41 PRIOIRQ45=41 PRIOIRQ102=41 PRIOIRQ123=41 PRIOJIVEALSA=45 #PRIOJIVE=0 PRIOSIRQTASKLET0=89 PRIOSIRQHRTIMER=40 PRIOWATCHDOG=0 PRIOLOADAVG=50 PRIODOFPSXCPUTMR=98 PRIOIRQ47=40 PRIOIRQ14=40 PRIOIRQ37=40 PRIOIRQ34=90 PRIOSIRNETTX=40 PRIOSIRNETRX=40 echo PID - Jive-Alsa: $PIDJIVEALSA $LOG2 echo PRIO: $PRIOJIVEALSA $LOG2 chrt -f -p $PRIOJIVEALSA $PIDJIVEALSA $LOG2 21 #chrt -f -p $PRIOJIVE $PIDJIVE /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRQTASKLET0 $PIDSIRQTASKLET0 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRQHRTIMER $PIDSIRQHRTIMER /dev/null 21 chrt -o -p $PRIOWATCHDOG $PIDWATCHDOG /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOLOADAVG $PIDLOADAVG /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIODOFPSXCPUTMR $PIDOFPSXCPUTMR /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ47 $PIDIRQ47 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ14 $PIDIRQ14 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ37 $PIDIRQ37 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ34 $PIDIRQ34 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRNETTX $PIDSIRNETTX /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOSIRNETRX $PIDSIRNETRX /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ17 $PIDIRQ17 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ42 $PIDIRQ42 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ45 $PIDIRQ45 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ102 $PIDIRQ102 /dev/null 21 chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ123 $PIDIRQ123 /dev/null 21 Initial impressions: 1. I stopped mid-music, did this mod and picked it up again exactly where I left off. Oddly, it sounded a notch louder, so I backed my volume down a little to compensate. 2. Sounds to me like all of the good qualities of the p.62 mods have been boosted a bit and there is some added fullness, too. You may have, indeed, outdone yourself. BTW, I typically use the last 10 minutes of a 24/96 recording of Mahler's 2nd symphony as my initial reference---has everything---lots of dynamics, solo and choral voice, triangles, bells, gongs, etc. Usually I can tell if something's missing, better/worse. I know it like the proverbial back of my hand. As to audimuze's comment: Klaus' TT mods are for real. Don't poo-poo this until you've actually tried implementing them in full. SBGK is, as another poster put it, standing on Klaus' shoulders and it wouild appear that he's onto something that'll incrementally improve on what Klaus has done. As to the rest, my eyebrows certainly go up now and then, but I'll gladly take a bit of that as long as the good stuff keeps rollin'. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
rgro;680697 Wrote: Initial impressions: As to audimuze's comment: Klaus' TT mods are for real. Don't poo-poo this until you've actually tried implementing them in full. SBGK is, as another poster put it, standing on Klaus' shoulders and it wouild appear that he's onto something that'll incrementally improve on what Klaus has done. As to the rest, my eyebrows certainly go up now and then, but I'll gladly take a bit of that as long as the good stuff keeps rollin'. well, Klaus has provided the toolkit and I have tried to adjust some settings to suit my system, I have found it very hard to engage Klaus about the quality of the sound produced by TT3.0, so have ended up exploring SBT and TT3.0 by myself. My efforts are driven by self interest as I am not trying to make money out of it. If others find this knowledge useful then that is good as I don't think TT3.0 was fulfiiling it's promise. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
I have no doubt people are hearing what they're hearing. One way or another I've managed to duplicate just about every sonic problem people have mentioned. Except for the crackling people used to mention a long time ago. Other people have heard it here too. Usually people are too polite to mention flaws when at somebody else's place, but not me lol, when asked. Anyway, I specifically pointed out the anomalies when they occurred and the others agreed they could easily hear it too, but didn't find it very distracting overall. Now that we've come so far from the basic/stock SBT sound, and I hear what can be done, I think it's worthwhile to pursue it to the bitter end lol. -- cfraser cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hello fellow tweakers. I have been following this thread since the beginning but have never been able to try any of the mods as the screen on my Bolder modded Touch was disabled (permanently!) when I snapped the flat cable connector. Anyhow I finally got around to buying another Touch and decided to give Klaus' Toolbox a try. I was a bit skeptical at first but after only a few seconds of late night listening to the original version I knew there was something going on. It was like a blanket had been lifted off my speakers. I couldn't wait 'til the next day to try it with more volume. It was then that I realized just how detailed and transparent everything was. Unfortunately the price for all this detail appeared to be, as expected, a less forgiving sound with certain material. I tried a few different tubes/opamps in my DAC and followed a few different suggestions from SBGK and the others. Finally I think everything has fallen into place with this last tweak. The mids are richer, the bass is there in spades and the detail appears to almost if not all there(more listening/tweaking/comments to follow) Bingo! A BIG thanks to Klaus and everyone who has provided their input. -- Turnandcough Turnandcough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
^ I have listened to the original version of that mod for a very short time. I did not hear *any* of the artifacts I was hearing last night. It sounds very nice, but perhaps a little too full and forward, and is lacking some of the high end detail. [SBT(coax)-BDA-1-BP-26-4B-SST2-Maggie 1.6] -- cfraser cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
cfraser;680727 Wrote: ^ I have listened to the original version of that mod for a very short time. I did not hear *any* of the artifacts I was hearing last night. It sounds very nice, but perhaps a little too full and forward, and is lacking some of the high end detail. [SBT(coax)-BDA-1-BP-26-4B-SST2-Maggie 1.6] yup, too much of a good thing, have backed it off by only changing irq17 to 41. have updated settings -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680723 Wrote: updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original p.62 (prior to editing), AKA Guido F's. The more I listen with those settings, the more I marvel at the exceptional tonal balance and soundstage; perhaps, on some material only, one could wish for a tad more treble extension, but that's it! Thanks once more for trying for more and for sharing! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
guidof;680737 Wrote: I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original p.62 (prior to editing), AKA Guido F's. The more I listen with those settings, the more I marvel at the exceptional tonal balance and soundstage; perhaps, on some material only, one could wish for a tad more treble extension, but that's it! Thanks once more for trying for more and for sharing! Guido F. I am going to try your settings. cheers -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
guidof;680737 Wrote: I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original p.62 (prior to editing), AKA Guido F's. The more I listen with those settings, the more I marvel at the exceptional tonal balance and soundstage; perhaps, on some material only, one could wish for a tad more treble extension, but that's it! Thanks once more for trying for more and for sharing! Guido F. Hah...just goes to show you.. I experienced the exact opposite. I really liked the p.83 (which now seems to have disappeared!) sound. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680738 Wrote: I am going to try your settings. cheers hmm, too bright for me. I am going to settle on SBT base settings, hard to beat for sheer musicality and emotional involvement with the music. can you list the script for those too?? like you did on p82 or whatever so you like the SBT base the best, correct??? can you expound on those vs TT3.0 and Guidos and your own? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0/SBGK)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Maybe it's the vino or maybe I need to call it a day but all this editing is confusing me. I thought I had found the perfect balance this afternoon but now after all these changes I can't remember where I was, what I changed or if I'm happier now or before I went and fiddled with it. Wouldn't it be less confusing to post separate scripts and number them 1,2,3,etc for each tweak instead of editing the same one. That way we could copy/paste and refer to them by number instead of the original, the SBT, the p62, the p62 prior to editing, the p82 or was that p83, the... But then again who am I to start butting in around here. I should just shut up and be grateful. -- Turnandcough Turnandcough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680688 Wrote: please enlighten us about the new meaning, is there a cure ? do you have a point to make ? It's just fascinating that many participants in this thread would appear to have golden ears and a sufficiently commanding grasp of 'audiophile' terminology to become writers for any number of so called hi-fi publications. -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Turnandcough;680749 Wrote: Maybe it's the vino or maybe I need to call it a day but all this editing is confusing me. I thought I had found the perfect balance this afternoon but now after all these changes I can't remember where I was, what I changed or if I'm happier now or before I went and fiddled with it. Wouldn't it be less confusing to post separate scripts and number them 1,2,3,etc for each tweak instead of editing the same one. That way we could copy/paste and refer to them by number instead of the original, the SBT, the guido, the p62, the p62 prior to editing, the p82 or was that p83, the... But then again who am I to start butting in around here. I should just shut up and be grateful. Yeah, I've got to say that I've been thoroughly confused a few times, too, and something like that would be a good idea. That said, SBGK's orginal efforts from this evening (which I liked and have returned to) are preserved in my post #832. I tried implementing the couple of changes he made after that but wound up with quite a bit of roughness in the treble---did not sound good on my system---so went back to the original config which I thought sounded superb. Will continue listening this evening/ tomorrow and, if that gets on my nerves, I'll go back to SBGK's page 62 settings which were quite fine, too. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680723 Wrote: updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. ??? post 827 is gone SBGK;680733 Wrote: yup, too much of a good thing, have backed it off by only changing irq17 to 41. have updated settings then you posted this ??? so what is it? -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge 15ft Cat 6 unshielded SBT (TT3.0 with sgbk mod) 3ft glass optical interconnect Emotiva XDA-1 DAC XLR to rca cables Little Dot Mk III Beyerdynamic DT-990 600 ohm headphones Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Stilly77;680753 Wrote: ??? post 827 is gone then you posted this ??? so what is it? are you gulpin' down old grandpa's cough medicine tonite? :) More likely some fine single maltafter all, it's now a few hours into 2012 where he lives! -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
rgro;680755 Wrote: More likely some fine single maltafter all, it's now a few hours into 2012 where he lives! oh yeah, I forget audiofiles only drink fine liquor -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge 15ft Cat 6 unshielded SBT (TT3.0 with sgbk mod) 3ft glass optical interconnect Emotiva XDA-1 DAC XLR to rca cables Little Dot Mk III Beyerdynamic DT-990 600 ohm headphones Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
rgro;680743 Wrote: Hah...just goes to show you.. I experienced the exact opposite. I really liked the p.83 (which now seems to have disappeared!) sound. Rick: Given that your tastes in music are so similar to mine and yet the resulting listening experiences are so different, I'd say that what we have learned from soundcheck's and SBGK's work is that one size fits all is definitely *not* the case when it comes to SW mods. I look forward to new and improved permutations, of course. Still, at this point a moratorium on fast-changing (and fast-disappearing) ones might be in order. Happy New Year! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680738 Wrote: I am going to try your settings. cheers hmm, too bright for me. I am going to settle on SBT base settings, hard to beat for sheer musicality and emotional involvement with the music. SBGK: These actually were -your- settings at one point (let's give credit where credit is due). Still, I'm confused because at one time, many pages ago, you thought that the sound with these settings was a bit dark, not too bright. But it may not matter, as long that each of us finds one set up that works best. Happy New Year! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi Bridge-Squeezebox Touch-Toslink-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC-Adcom GFP-750 preamp-Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp - Martin Logan SL3s DSpeaker Antimode 8033-REL T1 Sub BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out)-Little Dot Mk III amp-AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch-Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
The sbgk from p62 have been there a few days. They are the ones I have been using since then and I'm quite satisfied with them. However, I agree with the recent comments about the unnecessary confusion. The changes have been fast and furious. It would really help to know what these adjustments do. At least with an eq, you have an idea of what to expect. anyway, great effort on all accounts. -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge 15ft Cat 6 unshielded SBT (TT3.0 with sgbk mod) 3ft glass optical interconnect Emotiva XDA-1 DAC XLR to rca cables Little Dot Mk III Beyerdynamic DT-990 600 ohm headphones Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
I tried a Blue Jeans 3 foot plastic optical cable and came up thoroughly unimpressed. Both connectors were sloppy fitting. Then I tried one of those Amazon Cables to Go 3ft glass cable. Great snug fitting connectors and the sound was a big improvement over the BJ cable. I am usually highly skeptical of cables but was surprised by the result. My coax cables are louder and the bass seems a bit looser and boomier. The coax is monoprice 16 gauge. I recently dissected one to convert to an XLR cable, and I'll have to sat it's a pretty well constructed cable with a good copper core. Anyway, I'm sold on glass toslink. It's not a big deal to me, it just works better with what I have. I'm sure there is better, but there always is. -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge (DD-WRT) 15ft Cat 6 unshielded SBT (TT3.0 with sgbk mod) 3ft glass optical interconnect Emotiva XDA-1 DAC XLR to rca interconnect Little Dot Mk III (all Russian tubes) Beyerdynamic DT-990 600 ohm headphones Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
guidof;680757 Wrote: Given that your tastes in music are so similar to mine and yet the resulting listening experiences are so different, I'd say that what we have learned from soundcheck's and SBGK's work is that one size fits all is definitely *not* the case when it comes to SW mods. I look forward to new and improved permutations, of course. Still, at this point a moratorium on fast-changing (and fast-disappearing) ones might be in order. Happy New Year! Guido F. Well, into the confessional with me, Father Guido. The more I listened this evening, the more I heard that kind of muted, ears a bit in cotton kind of sound. So...out with the p.82 values and in with(nd, I swear, I haven't had a drop of anything to drink)your values for a while, now. We'll see how it sounds in 2012---still 2 1/2 hrs. to go for us west coasters. While audiomuze seems to think we're pretentious and silly as hell, I'm actually having quite a bit of fun with this. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305 sub. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.1 r33751 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.0. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.1 r9558. Duet: FW 7.7.1 r9557. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
audiomuze;680748 Wrote: It's just fascinating that many participants in this thread would appear to have golden ears and a sufficiently commanding grasp of 'audiophile' terminology to become writers for any number of so called hi-fi publications. Anyone wishing to brush up on audio superlatives should be referred to this thread - I don't think I've ever seen as many used in one place anywhere, in any medium. To be fair, I don't doubt there are some improvements, just as I don't doubt that there are many imaginary improvements. I think it's just that some people have never learned how to critically listen to music. RUSH recently released a box set called Sector 1. One of the remastered albums, Fly By Night, was found to contain numerous dropouts in the left or right channels. There was a listener on a forum who swore up and down that his copy was perfect even though a fixed remaster has not been issued yet. When he was asked to listen critically with headphones and given the exact time positions, he finally admitted the errors were present. Some listeners are naturals for detecting change others will never have a clue. Ignorance is bliss. But hey it's all good if everyone is satisfied. The unsatisfied usually have large mountains of unused gear and light wallets. -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge (DD-WRT) 15ft Cat 6 unshielded SBT (TT3.0 with sgbk mod) 3ft glass optical interconnect Emotiva XDA-1 DAC XLR to rca interconnect Little Dot Mk III (all Russian tubes) Beyerdynamic DT-990 600 ohm headphones Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
