Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
why not have the default code use the 0.6 method and then if it senses internet radio at the start of the track make it branch to a separate codepath that allow the internet radio format to play. as far as I know no one is complaining about 0.6 and even the guy who requested the internet radio functionality noticed a difference in sound. I know the change in code looks small, but is it something that is executed once at the start of a track or a million times a second ? otherwise seems we are headed to a sound compromised by the desire to play low resolution internet radio, which is just bizarre in something whose major benefit was better SQ. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best server for Transporter
That's way too much pc & cost if all you want is a quiet box on which to host LMS. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95477 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best server for Transporter
I built a nice custom linux server/desktop machine. It does a number of duties besides just LMS. It hosts files for my mac mini (still trying to decide if I like XBMC or Plex as a UI for that). I also use it as a primary desktop for browsing and photo editing. It also runs a number of VMs for testing some routing configurations. My shopping list looked like this: Lian-Li PC-Q08 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682265 Intel mini-itx mainboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121513 I would probably get this one now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121597 The only bad part of this board is that it only supports 4x SATA and I had to use the PCIe slot for a SATA board. If I didn't use it as a desktop, I would have probably gone with a supermicro Atom D525 server board because they support IPMI. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA-HF-D525.cfm Whatever CPU and ram floats your boat, I went with 8G of ram and i5-2400S I have 6x WD RE4-GP 2T server drives setup with Linux software raid. I have a small mirror setup for the root fs, 140G of space for the rest of the OS and 100G for /home. Then the rest of the space (7T) is a raid6 volume for backups (crashplan of my family's laptops) and other media. I also have an external USB-3 drive or two that I offline backup the important stuff to, like my FLAC files. Of course, none of this is audiophile related, except that I have my audio system (Transporter, Revel speakers, Musical Fidelity amp) networked to it. SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95477 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone recommend a Cambridge Audio DacMagic...
jezbo wrote: > ... for enhancing the sound of my SB3? I've had my eyes on one for a > couple of years now, but perhaps there's better out now for a similar > price. > > Currently my SB3 is fed directly through a decent Marantz amp + > Mordaunt-Short speakers or Heed CanAmp + Beyerdynamic headphones. Music > source is usually lossless flac files. > > Also, for anyone who has actually got a DacMagic, what are the > additional connectors I'll need to purchase? I bought the dacmagic to connect to my SB3. Previously I was using a Musical Fidelity X24 dac but the Dacmagic was an improvement over this in terms of detail, soundstage and smoothness. I connected them with a co-axial SPDIF cable which seemed to work best. Later I upgraded to the Logitech Touch. Strangely the sound sound improved significantly over the SB3. I suspect the Touch had less jitter. Anyway, I found a decent optical connector ($30) worked better than a much more expensive co-axial cable I was using previously. Sounded cleaner and smoother with more detail. I suspect noise was been sent via the shield of the cable. I installed soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0 and the sound became better still with more clarity and detail. I did modify the Dacmagic to bypass the output capacitors on the RCA outputs. This did make quite a difference to the sound and improved the bass considerably. I am going to try the balanced outputs on the Dacmagic as they are claimed to provide better performance. I will keep you Posted. Cheers campmountainman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56431 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do need a Logitech Device?
totoro wrote: > I more or less agree about the fanboy thing. I am aware of the attempted > irony. > > > But someone who is claiming that using windows is "thinking differently" > is being recursively meta-ironic. I mean seriously, I've never had the > it trolls at any company I've worked at try to force me to use Osx. I > have had that experience with windows, even when the software I was > writing would end up running on some kind of unix. Windows owes its > dominance, to a great degree, to the dumbing-down of system > administration as a job. Thanks to the fashion for apple, and the fact > that all the executives want to use macbooks and ipads, corporate > networks are becoming less monocultural, and I'm more likely to NOT have > to listen to a lot of shit when I insist on loading ubuntu on my > workstation. I'd call that a win. > Sounds good to me. While I may do my best to trash Apple every chance I get, I make it a point not to throw the first punch. In the case of this thread I was merely pointing out that Apple products and the Apple universe do have their fair share of problems/issues, just as Windows does and unix too. What makes Apple different is that they do a great job of hiding the shortcomings from the user. Back to the original theme of this thread, sure now that just about every computer, audio and video equipment manufacturer has some kind of network enabled device that can be used to play the music collection on one's computer does not make the Squeezebox family of devices less useful. Instead most of these devices only help to show how far ahead of everyone else Logitech is when it comes to streaming audio. Sure I can stream mp3s using my $59 networked blu-ray player but there is no way that this device makes doing so as easy as streaming is with a SB Touch. Plus the networked blu-ray player doesn't play flac, ogg, etc., and high resolution files. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do need a Logitech Device?
ralphpnj wrote: > I just love it that Apple fanboys are morally compelled to respond to > even the slightest anti-Apple post. The "think different" was a > reference to a one time Apple advertising campaign which went along the > lines that Apple users somehow were thinking differently from Windows > users. Now that Apple owns overwhelming majorities of both the smart > phone and tablet markets I thought my statement was funny in an ironic > sort of way. I guess you missed it. > > Back to the original subject, I gave my answer in post #7 above. The > sidetrack into a mini-flame war only happened because some fanboy felt > compelled (yes they are always "compelled" since being compelled goes > along with brainwashing) to tell us how great Airplay is. I felt > compelled to remind him of how great Airplay ISN'T. I more or less agree about the fanboy thing. I am aware of the attempted irony. But someone who is claiming that using windows is "thinking differently" is being recursively meta-ironic. I mean seriously, I've never had the it trolls at any company I've worked at try to force me to use Osx. I have had that experience with windows, even when the software I was writing would end up running on some kind of unix. Windows owes its dominance, to a great degree, to the dumbing-down of system administration as a job. Thanks to the fashion for apple, and the fact that all the executives want to use macbooks and ipads, corporate networks are becoming less monocultural, and I'm more likely to NOT have to listen to a lot of shit when I insist on loading ubuntu on my workstation. I'd call that a win. totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
^ The butterfly effect? Let me be a bit of a devil's advocate... I think you'd agree that different code, no matter how apparently trivially different, executes differently. The electronically different results are easily seen with the proper gear. Hell, the 3-letter-agencies can tell exactly what you're doing by the radiated energy from your executing code. From quite far away. So let's not say our audiophile listening rooms or electronics are immune. Whatever this small change in code is, the way the electronics process it could result in some unexpected audible sonic difference. It is very difficult to believe that code that's *logically* identical results in a different sound. That is why all new revision software that only had *minor* changes made to it always works perfectly, and never creates new problems with things that worked perfectly before. :) >From a practical perspective as a developer, if it's not a lot of trouble, just let people have access to the old versions until they prove to themselves they're not better. If they like the old one, no harm. Don't actually go back to the older version for development. cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do need a Logitech Device?
totoro wrote: > WTF? OS flame wars? Really? Windows is "thinking different"? At least > OSX is a unix and has a reasonable command line. I prefer linux, but > whatever. Why don't we stick to the subject at hand, rather than go down > this rathole? I just love it that Apple fanboys are morally compelled to respond to even the slightest anti-Apple post. The "think different" was a reference to a one time Apple advertising campaign which went along the lines that Apple users somehow were thinking differently from Windows users. Now that Apple owns overwhelming majorities of both the smart phone and tablet markets I thought my statement was funny in an ironic sort of way. I guess you missed it. Back to the original subject, I gave my answer in post #7 above. The sidetrack into a mini-flame war only happened because some fanboy felt compelled (yes they are always "compelled" since being compelled goes along with brainwashing) to tell us how great Airplay is. I felt compelled to remind him of how great Airplay ISN'T. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why do need a Logitech Device?
ralphpnj wrote: > Since you asked. > > I've been an active member of this forum for five years during which > time I've seen and read many, many posts dealing with the shortcomings > of the Apple universe. Such things as trouble with iTunes, lack of flac > support, lack of high resolution support. I also own several other media > streaming devices such a WD TV Live and a Panasonic streaming blu-ray > player. The one thing these devices have in common is that they suck > when compared to any Squeezebox device when it comes to streaming music. > Can they stream music? Yes (in the case of the WD TV Live) and maybe (in > the case of the Panasonic which, like any Apple device, will not play > flac) Would I want to use them as music streaming devices? No because in > the case of each device their music library management abilities are > simply terrible. > > But the real reason I responded with "rudeness and childish sarcasm" is > because any and all Apple fanboys deserve no better. I've been using > Windows based computers for many years and I can do anything an Apple > computer does, only better. Plus I can listen to or watch music and > videos of ANY type without having to worry about whether Apple refuses > to support a particular format. And finally I don't use or like Apple > simply because I like to "Think Different". WTF? OS flame wars? Really? Windows is "thinking different"? At least OSX is a unix and has a reasonable command line. I prefer linux, but whatever. Why don't we stick to the subject at hand, rather than go down this rathole? totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
JohnSwenson wrote: > There is no way to tell which connection method is going to be the best > before hand, you just have to try them. There are far to many variables > in implementation and cables to make generic judgements. > > No, the transporter is not being clocked by the Cary, it's a one way > connection between the Transporter and the Cary. IF the Cary had a word > clock output the Transporter could be slaved to it, but from reading the > website I see no mention made of a wordclock output. So most likely > there is a traditional receiver in the Cary which uses a PLL to extract > the clock from the digital signal coming from the Transporter. This is > almost guaranteed to be significantly higher jiter than the internal > clock in the Cary. The sales literature spends time talking about how > low jitter the internal clock is, but nothing about how good the input > receiver is, so it's probably fairly generic. (If a company has spent > effort making a very low jitter receiver they usually make a big deal > about it, the Cary does not) > > The upshot is that there is not a lot you can do about it, try the three > different connection methods and see what you like the best, stick with > that. > > I am the one who is not particularly fond of AES/EBU, sometimes it can > sound the best, but my experience has been that in a lot of cases it is > NOT the best sounding interface. > > John S. for what it's worth, I'm not fond of AES/EBU either. It is often poorly implemented at incorrect or incompatible voltage levels. THere can also be grounding issues and there is no galvanic isolation. Where it works well is in professional location recording setups with runs of hundreds of feet of cable and/or harsh physical environments with rampant RFI/EMI from generators etc. It is worth noting thAt in such situations, reliability is more important than ultimate sound quality. As garym mentioned it was after all designed purely to reuse those very expensive 300ft drums of xlr-xlr cable snakes that pros have... Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
John S. Appreciated. Not the answer I wanted, but lesson learned. I'll hope that AES is closer than S/PDIF to CD. The Cary has been an enormous upgrade even with the clock situation. Worst case is that I'll play CDs for any serious listening. Of course, as good as the system sounds now I'll be doing much of that! Thanks again. jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
SBGK wrote: > that's the problem Triode, you ask for feedback and so far you have not > believed what people tell you and , in fact, have belittled the comments > about 0.6 vs 0.7, why should we try your different binaries if you don't > believe what people say and also if you can't hear the difference in > your system. please tell us what proof will be acceptable to you. I want to find any real differences, but having posted what I believe to be the difference - which is the two binaries + the code changes, no one has tested the two back to back and provided evidence of actual changes in terms of the active configurations. Starting a rumour than version X is better than version Y just leads to uniformed people searching for an old version which we have no evidence (yet) of why they are different. The reason for being concerned about this is that many of the claims of better here and elsewhere have at least a hint of expectation bias and I remain sceptical. [Several of the changes claimed to make a difference can be shown to not impact the active configuration with only cursory review of the code and must be questioned.] Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
jh901 wrote: > > > 2) I'm using the coax output of the Transporter for now, but I'm > switching to AES since the rest of my system is balanced. Are any of > the Transporter outs considered superior (for sound quality)? Most > importantly, is the digital output from the Transporter being clocked by > the Cary? (I get confused about "Master/Slave") > > Josh There is no way to tell which connection method is going to be the best before hand, you just have to try them. There are far to many variables in implementation and cables to make generic judgements. No, the transporter is not being clocked by the Cary, it's a one way connection between the Transporter and the Cary. IF the Cary had a word clock output the Transporter could be slaved to it, but from reading the website I see no mention made of a wordclock output. So most likely there is a traditional receiver in the Cary which uses a PLL to extract the clock from the digital signal coming from the Transporter. This is almost guaranteed to be significantly higher jiter than the internal clock in the Cary. The sales literature spends time talking about how low jitter the internal clock is, but nothing about how good the input receiver is, so it's probably fairly generic. (If a company has spent effort making a very low jitter receiver they usually make a big deal about it, the Cary does not) The upshot is that there is not a lot you can do about it, try the three different connection methods and see what you like the best, stick with that. I am the one who is not particularly fond of AES/EBU, sometimes it can sound the best, but my experience has been that in a lot of cases it is NOT the best sounding interface. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Triode wrote: > Please read the rest of this thread (at least from post #56 onwards) - > although some have claimed 0.6 sounded better than 0.7, no one has > stepped up to the challenge of testing the two binaries against each > other and validating that they really hear a change and/or that there is > a difference in the active configuration used. > > If you want to use an earlier version then you will need to manually > install - you can find the earlier version here: > http://code.google.com/p/triodeapplets/downloads/list > > However if you do this, please post something to this thread which > verifies what has changed and how it impacts sounds quality - I don't > want rumours of old versions having better sound quality to maintain > without justification and evidence - all future versions will be based > on the current version until someone proves that something which has > changed should be reverted. that's the problem Triode, you ask for feedback and so far you have not believed what people tell you and , in fact, have belittled the comments about 0.6 vs 0.7, why should we try your different binaries if you don't believe what people say and also if you can't hear the difference in your system. please tell us what proof will be acceptable to you. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best server for Transporter
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Sysagent wrote: > As the title says :) > > How can I go back to the previous version of the EDO plugin please? > > I am on the current new version and to my ears it does sound quite harsh > to listen to for a prolonged period of time, if somebody could post a > step by step way of how to go to the previous version that allegedly did > not have these traits it would be much appreciated. > > Many thanks, Please read the rest of this thread (at least from post #56 onwards) - although some have claimed 0.6 sounded better than 0.7, no one has stepped up to the challenge of testing the two binaries against each other and validating that they really hear a change and/or that there is a difference in the active configuration used. If you want to use an earlier version then you will need to manually install - you can find the earlier version here: http://code.google.com/p/triodeapplets/downloads/list However if you do this, please post something to this thread which verifies what has changed and how it impacts sounds quality - I don't want rumours of old versions having better sound quality to maintain without justification and evidence all future versions will be based on the current version until someone proves that something which has changed should be reverted. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
As the title says :) How can I go back to the previous version of the EDO plugin please? I am on the current new version and to my ears it does sound quite harsh to listen to for a prolonged period of time, if somebody could post a step by step way of how to go to the previous version that allegedly did not have these traits it would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Sysagent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56361 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
you might also try toslink optical out from transporter as well. Some see EMI noise transmitted via S/PDIF coax connections. And in many cases the S/PDIF coax connectors are not the correct ohm. These are typically such small effects that they are not audible under normal conditions, but perhaps in your system they matter garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best server for Transporter
"reasonably priced" is a pretty vague term, but as we're in the Audiophiles forum I'll assume you mean "expensive" :-) If you want quiet, capable, and convenient you probably can't do better than the Fit-PC line (www.fit-pc.com/web/). The Fit-PC computers are also ridiculously small. They take 2.5" hard drives, which are also a lot quieter than their 3.5" counterparts. Or if you have the budget, get an SSD. And in the grand scheme of things, the Fit-PC is not absurdly expensive. It's more than many other alternatives, but it is quite reasonable for what it is. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95477 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
jh901 wrote: > Hm. So how would this interference manifest itself? I haven't had a > buffering problem since upgrading my router, so I don't have a concern > in that area. I'm trying to work through each part of the data path in > order to determine why CDs played in the transport sound better than > from the media server (S/PDIF digital out to the same exact DAC). My > system resolves at quite a high level, so it's easy to hear intimate > musical detail. > > Maybe it's a "master-slave" thing with the master clock? I want the > Cary to handle everything. buffering, etc. Sounds like not an issue for you. Regarding sounding better, are you sure you're not comparing while using replaygain values on your digital files (FLAC or WAV I assume). If replaygain values are being used (check LMS > SETTINGS > Players > audio) this could account for what you are hearing. With replaygain being used, most tracks will have volume reduced (not increased). And in blind studies, even an almost imperceptible reduction in volume can lead listeners to prefer the "louder" track. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
Hm. So how would this interference manifest itself? I haven't had a buffering problem since upgrading my router, so I don't have a concern in that area. I'm trying to work through each part of the data path in order to determine why CDs played in the transport sound better than from the media server (S/PDIF digital out to the same exact DAC). My system resolves at quite a high level, so it's easy to hear intimate musical detail. Maybe it's a "master-slave" thing with the master clock? I want the Cary to handle everything. jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
jh901 wrote: > Should I expect a slight sound quality improvement using ethernet (vs > wifi)? you shouldn't expect *any* difference if your WIFI connection is good. Either wifi or ethernet will deliver perfect bits to the transporter. This said, WIFI can suffer interference, etc. that can make it worse. I personally prefer the ethernet connection because I don't have to deal with any potential interference from other wifi networks near me, interference from microwave ovens, etc. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
Ok. I'm not using the analog outs of the Transporter, but I referred to the AES digital out as "balanced" since it is XLR terminated. Of course, then we have the question of the interconnect quality itself, but that's another topic. Thanks for the advice on the ethernet. I'll need about 50 feet (less than 20 meters), so I suppose I'll be just fine. Should I expect a slight sound quality improvement using ethernet (vs wifi)? jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
jh901 wrote: > Hi- I've recently upgraded to the Cary 306 (see sig) for both SACD and > as a DAC for redbook PCM from the Transporter digital outs. > > 1) Networked by wi-fi, but I was considering a switch to Ethernet. Any > length related concerns for ethernet cable? > > 2) I'm using the coax output of the Transporter for now, but I'm > switching to AES since the rest of my system is balanced. Are any of > the Transporter outs considered superior (for sound quality)? Most > importantly, is the digital output from the Transporter being clocked by > the Cary? (I get confused about "Master/Slave") > > I have a few more concerns that I'll follow up with as I get my arms > around the first two. I appreciate any help and I understand that this > stuff will have been covered before, but I'm not real clever with > "search" and I want to capture a discussion applicable to my situation > all in one thread. Do feel free to post links. > > Thank you! > > Josh maximum ethernet cable length (cat5e) is 100 meters, or a bit over 300 feet. But if you need a longer run than that, just connect to a switch box, then connect new ethernet cable to the switch. So ethernet cable length is rarely a practical limitation I can't find the thread, but a couple of years ago there was a good discussion by either John Swenson or Phil Leigh rleated to AES. My recollection was that AES was not considered as good as S/PDIF or TOSLINK. The notion was that AES was created simply because it allowed studios to use the cables and XLR connectors that they already had laying around the studio. p.s. I may misunderstand what you are doing, but the Transporter BALANCED outs are analog (in fact, this is what I use, Transporter balanced out via XLR into the balanced input of my preamp). If you are going from Transporter to DAC, it seems you'd want to use transporter DIGITAL out into your DAC. The "balanced" part is once you reach the analog stage. That is, you'd want balanced out analog from the DAC into the balanced input of your preamp/amp. The input into your DAC from the transporter just needs to be digital (S/PDIF coax, toslink, or AES are all possibilities here). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best server for Transporter
Hi all, having just moved home I don't have a remote place to site my old ReadyNas NV box which runs Squeezecenter and feeds my TP ( or whatever it's called now ) which is necessary because of noise ( don't know if it's the fan or the drives ) I've just tried siting it under the stairs but I can still here it in the lounge. So I'm thinking it might be time to say goodbye to the old girl and buy something else. Anyone know of a reasonable priced quiet device that runs SC well ? preferably running Linux. many thanks pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95477 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
Hi- I've recently upgraded to the Cary 306 (see sig) for both SACD and as a DAC for redbook PCM from the Transporter digital outs. 1) Networked by wi-fi, but I was considering a switch to Ethernet. Any length related concerns for ethernet cable? 2) I'm using the coax output of the Transporter for now, but I'm switching to AES since the rest of my system is balanced. Are any of the Transporter outs considered superior (for sound quality)? Most importantly, is the digital output from the Transporter being clocked by the Cary? (I get confused about "Master/Slave") I have a few more concerns that I'll follow up with as I get my arms around the first two. I appreciate any help and I understand that this stuff will have been covered before, but I'm not real clever with "search" and I want to capture a discussion applicable to my situation all in one thread. Do feel free to post links. Thank you! Josh jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
