[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MA Naturalization Records
Hi Elaine, Thank you for your very kind offer. I do not have a subscription to Footnote, but do for Ancestry.On Ancestry, I found the Naturalization index card for my grandfather.In 1906 he was spelling his name as Joseph Vera and the address on the card (correct for that time) is 140 Allen Street, New Bedford, MA.There is so little I know about this man and am hoping the Footnote records may have some clues that I can use to research him and his line prior to 1906.Thanks again. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Great passenger lists on ancestry.com
Shirley, Thank you for responding to my post and offering to help, but at this point, I don't know of any ancestors who may have gone from the Azores to Hawaii. Ginger -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Great passenger lists on ancestry.com
Elaine, I used the link in Susanne's post, and what I read does seem to indicate that there is a gap in the records, but here is some info: My G-Grandmother's name was Maria Vieira from Fayal and arrived at one of the East Coast ports. She (possibly her husband) and the children would have arrived between 1883 and 1887.The ancestors who arrived in the late 1870's I'll put in another post. I don't know if Maria arrived with the children, or if her husband accompanied her on the voyage.I believe his name, as well as his son's name was Joaquim Vieira. According the the USA records I've found, the son, Joaquim, was born in 1882 on Fayal.The son later used the name Joseph in the USA.I do not know the names of Maria and Joaquim Senior's other children.The destroyed 1890 Census would have given me that info and I would have been able to research the family line through them. The family settled in New Bedford, MA and lived there until about 1918, then went to California. I searched the 1900 Census and found 2 families that have the possibility of being the right one. Without knowing the names of the other children who arrived here, I cannot be sure which family is the correct one. I have searched Ancesrty, the CCA site, the UMINHO site, and others without finding them.Thank you for offering to search. I hope you have better results than I have had. Ginger -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Great passenger lists on ancestry.com
Can you tell me why there is a 20 year gap in the passenger records on Ancestry.com?My Portuguese ancestors came to the USA during the late 1870's and the 1880's. I need their arrival info to help break my brick wall.It would also give me the names of any siblings, or other relatives, who arrived with them. Names that I do not presently know. Does the FLC have copies of those passenger lists that are NOT on Ancestry? Please don't tell me that 20 years of Manifests have been 'lost' or destroyed, like the 1890 Census had been. Ginger On May 21, 12:51 pm, Jesse Pacheco wrote: > This is a great collection. But as "E" said the index is far from > perfect. However, though it is very erroneous, it can still be useful. > It's just important to keep in mind the fact that there is valuable > information in the lists that may be impossible to find through the index. > > The names are often spelled completely wrong. Also, the devotional names > of the women (de Jesus, do Rosario, etc) are sometimes indexed as the > children's surnames. And while the de/do/da is sometimes combined with > the last name, Ancestry's search engine is usually good about > recognizing this problem, and for example, searches for "Costa" will > turn up "Costa," "Decosta," and "Dacosta" results. > > On 5/20/2011 2:17 PM, sdarosa wrote: > > > I was searching passenger lists on Ancestry.com and discovered these > > passenger lists: > > > All Atlantic Ports Passenger Lists, 1820-1873 and 1893-1959 > >http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8758&enc=1 > > > I haven't personally found my ancestors but thousands of names from > > the Islands are in here& thought the list might like to know about it > > if you don't already > > Suzanne > > -- > Jesse Pacheco > pacheco.jess...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Christmas Day in the Azores
Thank you all for your insight. It is appreciated. So, with Christmas being celebrated on 25 December since 1582, I guess that it would be my Grandfather's correct birthday. Oh, in my original post I meant to key in 1875 not 1975. Sorry about that. Ginger On Mar 31, 11:48 pm, Debra Wolgemuth wrote: > Ginger, > > Epiphany: a Christian festival, observed on January 6, commemorating the > manifestation of Christ to the gentiles in the persons of the Magi; > Twelfth-day. > > For some cultures, epiphany is as important as our traditional Christmas Day. > > Debbie Wolgemuth > Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), > Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) > Immigrated to: Merced, CA > > > > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:04:46 -0700 > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas Day in the Azores > > From: webspi...@myway.com > > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Hello Group, > > > In reading some of the archived posts, I have discovered that in 1975 > > Christmas Day was celebrated on January 6th in the Azores. Does > > anyone know how long that practice continued? > > > The reason I ask is that there is a problem with my paternal > > Grandfather's USA Marriage Record. He stated that he was born on > > Christmas Day 1882 and that he was 21 years old. The clerk wrote down > > his birthday as 25 December 1882. My Grandmother stated she was 20 > > years old and her birthday was 3 November 1882. > > > So, if he was born the 25th of December that would actually make him > > slightly younger than his wife. I'm wondering if he may have really > > been born on 6 January 1882, in which case he would have been 21 at > > the time they married on 24 July 1903. > > > Although he always celebrated his birthday on the 25th of December, if > > he was told he was 'born on Christmas Day' it would explain the > > conflict on his marriage record. > > > Was the tradition of celebrating Christmas on the 6th of January in > > the Azores still in effect in 1882? > > > Thanks for your help. > > > Ginger > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Christmas Day in the Azores
Hello Group, In reading some of the archived posts, I have discovered that in 1975 Christmas Day was celebrated on January 6th in the Azores.Does anyone know how long that practice continued? The reason I ask is that there is a problem with my paternal Grandfather's USA Marriage Record.He stated that he was born on Christmas Day 1882 and that he was 21 years old. The clerk wrote down his birthday as 25 December 1882. My Grandmother stated she was 20 years old and her birthday was 3 November 1882. So, if he was born the 25th of December that would actually make him slightly younger than his wife. I'm wondering if he may have really been born on 6 January 1882, in which case he would have been 21 at the time they married on 24 July 1903. Although he always celebrated his birthday on the 25th of December, if he was told he was 'born on Christmas Day' it would explain the conflict on his marriage record. Was the tradition of celebrating Christmas on the 6th of January in the Azores still in effect in 1882? Thanks for your help. Ginger -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death Records
Very informative, I didn't know this info, thank you. Ginger On Mar 20, 10:01 pm, emac...@aol.com wrote: > Death Records. > > I found death records the most difficult to read - easier as time went on. > There is wonderful information in these records. It is the best source > of information as to the social standing and wealth of a person in a > village. These records often state that a person left a will. > > Until about the early 1800s people were buried in the church...not in > coffins; lime helped for faster decomposition. In many of the earlier > records > the exact location of burial was given : in front of the pulpit, on the > gospel side near the gate of the chapel of St. Joseph, etc. One of my > ancestors was buried in the grave of his grandmother, Catarina Jacome. This > was > interesting. Her death record states that she was poor, and buried in the > grave of her ancestors..and yet she had a rather large funeral. Lots of > masses, etc. She died in 1617. Now her husband was wealthy, had orange > groves, etc, and when he died his two sons were executors of his will, and he > was buried near the pulpit. I wonder if these two were separated. .I've > tried to find out about orange groves around Santa Barbara, Terceira. This > in the late 1500-1600 period. Nothing > > The death records give us a social idea of the parish...from the noble > class to the very poor. We can learn something about the status of our > ancestors. Such as "he was wrapped in a sheet, as he had no proper clothes > for > burial" Often the record will note the amount paid for the burial, "such as > 120 Reis paid for burial ". "Or he made no testament for being very poor > and was buried gratis." > > And then something like the following: My ancestor, Joana Gonsalves, died > on 16 Sept 1730, in Sao Bento, Terceira, and was buried in her brother's > private grave, next to the screen on the Epistle side. Her brother, Manuel > Simoes in his will , had provided 50,000 reis for the costs of his funeral. > > Also interesting in the death records is to read: Emilia Vieira left her > terca to her daughter , Joanna Sousa. > So one wonders where this terca came from - what morgado? From what I > remember about morgados is that this is an entailment, and that one who > inherited the morgado could leave a third to a cousin, sister, etc. > I noted several of my ancestors (women) who left terca's to their > daughters. I am not a good enough genealogist to figure out from what > morgado > that terca came from. Maybe it is not possible. > > So remember, it isn't only baptism and marriage records. Learn to read > the death records. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Online records for Sao Jorge
Shirley, Thank you for trying. I look forward to next week. Would it help you if I gave you the names/dates of their children? Ginger On Mar 20, 2:26 pm, "Shirley Allegre" wrote: > Ginger: I didn't find anything this week. I will again next week. (If I > don't get snowed in.) > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ginger" > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:50 PM > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Online records for Sao Jorge > > Hi Shirley, > > You are an Angel. Thank you for offering to help. > > The info I have is from USA documents. My paternal Great- > Grandfather's name is Jose Faustina/o Moraes, b. abt. 1856 in Velas, > Sao Jorge. The only firm dates I have for him are his marriage (30 > Dec 1880) and his death (31 Jan 1922) here in the USA. > I believe his parents names are Antonio F. Moraes and Maria Rita. I > don't have dates for them. Dates for him and his parents would be > most appreciated. > > My maternal Great-Grandmother's name was Maria Santa de Jesus. She > was born abt. 1853 in Velas (I think in the village of Rosaes), and > was also married there abt. 1878-1879. If you can find her > father's name for me, it would help. I believe her mother's name was > Maria Bettencourt. Dates for her are unknown. > > I'm sorry that is all I have for you to work with, but anything you > can find would be of help. > > God Bless and thanks again. > > Ginger > > On Mar 10, 12:19 pm, "Shirley Allegre" > wrote: > > I have the films at my local FHC for Velas, Sao Jorge. > > Who are you looking for? Names, dates, etc. > > My husband has ancestors from Velas. > > Shirley in CA > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ginger" > > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:01 PM > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Online records for Sao Jorge > > > Hello Group, > > > Does anyone know of online records for Velas, Sao Jorge? My > > maternal grandmother's line and my paternal great-grandfather's line > > are from there. > > > The Uminho site still hasn't added those records. Does anyone know > > if they plan on doing so? > > > Thank you, > > > Ginger > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > > right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."- > > Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Online records for Sao Jorge
Hi Shirley, You are an Angel. Thank you for offering to help. The info I have is from USA documents. My paternal Great- Grandfather's name is Jose Faustina/o Moraes, b. abt. 1856 in Velas, Sao Jorge. The only firm dates I have for him are his marriage (30 Dec 1880) and his death (31 Jan 1922) here in the USA. I believe his parents names are Antonio F. Moraes and Maria Rita. I don't have dates for them. Dates for him and his parents would be most appreciated. My maternal Great-Grandmother's name was Maria Santa de Jesus. She was born abt. 1853 in Velas (I think in the village of Rosaes), and was also married there abt. 1878-1879. If you can find her father's name for me, it would help. I believe her mother's name was Maria Bettencourt. Dates for her are unknown. I'm sorry that is all I have for you to work with, but anything you can find would be of help. God Bless and thanks again. Ginger On Mar 10, 12:19 pm, "Shirley Allegre" wrote: > I have the films at my local FHC for Velas, Sao Jorge. > Who are you looking for? Names, dates, etc. > My husband has ancestors from Velas. > Shirley in CA > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ginger" > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:01 PM > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Online records for Sao Jorge > > Hello Group, > > Does anyone know of online records for Velas, Sao Jorge? My > maternal grandmother's line and my paternal great-grandfather's line > are from there. > > The Uminho site still hasn't added those records. Does anyone know > if they plan on doing so? > > Thank you, > > Ginger > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Online records for Sao Jorge
Thank you Rosemarie. Ginger On Mar 7, 9:17 am, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: > Ginger, > > All of Sao Jorge's records (up to 1911) are on the CCA Site: > > http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos > > Just click on "Sao Jorge" and then the Concelho of Velas and then the > village of Vellas. > > Rosemarie > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > Does anyone know of online records for Velas, Sao Jorge? My > > maternal grandmother's line and my paternal great-grandfather's line > > are from there. > > > The Uminho site still hasn't added those records. Does anyone know > > if they plan on doing so? > > > Thank you, > > > Ginger > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Online records for Sao Jorge
Hello Group, Does anyone know of online records for Velas, Sao Jorge?My maternal grandmother's line and my paternal great-grandfather's line are from there. The Uminho site still hasn't added those records.Does anyone know if they plan on doing so? Thank you, Ginger -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Naming Traditions of the Azores
Thank you. A very helpful article. Ginger -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The island of São Jorge.News
Yolanda, Thank you very much. I will visit the website you suggested as I have both Paternal and Maternal ancestors from Sao Jorge. Ginger On Nov 19, 1:53 pm, yolanda wrote: > Hello Group > > Olá! > > The island de São Jorge is just starting a project of Genealogy research by > Misericórdia de Velas. > > Also the Municipal Archive of Velas has been digitalized and can be found at > > http://www.inforgeide.pt/cmvelas/ > > Remember it´s the records of the City Hall Of Velas. > > But we can find a lot of interesting facts and and lots of lists with > names. > > If help is needed for tranlation, i am able to help. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, Flores, Corvo,
Hi Group, Does anyone know roughly which dates these volumes span?The earliest date being ___, and the most recent date being ___? Ginger On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, eric edgar wrote: > Nancy , > > I'd be in for the Flores and Corvo volumes. Anyone for Faial? > > Eric Edgar > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM, nancy jean baptiste < > > > > fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > This looks like a great research tool.I'm interested in the Pico volume > > but not the others.if anyone wants to "share" a set they could be split > > up.. > > Nancy Jean Baptista > > > -- > > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:35:01 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas: Faial, Pico, > > Flores, Corvo, > > From: noblankt...@gmail.com > > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > According to the Biblioteca Genealogica de Lisbon website this was just > > released 2009 and seems to be only available at DisLivro. At 3000 pages in 4 > > volumes, it seems worth the price, but it's too much for me. > > > Eric Edgar > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Laura Fitzpatrick < > > laurafitzpatrick2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Has anyone purchased these books? If so can you tell me if they are worth > > the € 250 ( $375.00) that is being charged on the DisLivro site? > > > Are the volumes being sold anywhere else that anyone knows about? I looked > > through the list of names mentioned in the volumes on the DisLivro site and > > didn't see some I would be interested in (Maciel, Vieira) but did see > > Ferreira (my maiden name) mentioned. > > > €250 is a lot of money and I want to see if anyone can tell me about these > > volumes before I decide to purchase. > > > Thanks > > Laura > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/> > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."- > > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why our Portuguese ancestors moved so often & used
Hi Seek, Don't feel frustrated about it. My Paternal Grandfather, so far as I know, initially used in the USA, the name VIEIRA, then VERA. After he moved from New England to California, about 1919 he briefly used KING, and soon after he used the surname PERRY, until his death in 1968. Researching this person has been an adventure for me and my cousin , to say the least! On Jun 15, 8:09 pm, seekg...@aol.com wrote: > My grandfather changed his name, too. He was born Jose Machado Soares. > Later, as an adult in the US, he changed his name to Joseph M. Sawyer. He > was naturalized as Sawyer, married my grandmother under the name of Sawyer. > Their first few children were born under the name of Sawyer. Then he > decided to change his name to Joseph Marshall. The last few children were > born > under Marshall, including my father. However, whenever he returned to the > islands he went back to using his original birth name of Jose Machado > Soares. > **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?red... > eExcfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel
Hello Maria Sousa, Thank you for your post. It reminds me of what I over heard as a child. My dad (born in th USA 1917) had said that his ancestor 'family' had been well to do in the Azores. There was a some sort of political overthrow that caused the remaining family members in the Azores to be rendered financially ruined. Unfortunately, I don't know the details. Perhaps, once the political coup occured in Mainland Portugal, it spread to the Azores. At that time, wasn't the Azores still considered part of Portugal? In other words, the Azores wasn't an autonomous region at that time, was it? I apologize for my lack of Portuguese history. I am third generation American and my parents never shared family history directly with us children. Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: PEREIRA FROM SAO JORGE
Thank you all for your replies. Wow, all of you have found Ancestors much farther back in time than I yet have, so I don't recognize any of the names you have posted. I hope that as my research progresses, I am able to make connections. While rearching what happened to Guilhermina, I will keep the name Wilhermina in mind.Ermelinda changed her name, so possibly Guilhermina did so as well. Thanks again, Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: PEREIRA FROM SAO JORGE
Hi, I have PEREIRA's from Sao Jorge, too. This info is taken from ship manifests. Ermelinda Beatriz PEREIRA, b. 22 Dec 1896 (later Americanized to Emily B. Perry) from Urzelina, Velas, Sao Jorge arrived Boston, MA 3 Sep 1913 (age 16y, 8m) lived in New Bedford, MA until 1918 moved to and spent the rest of her life in Oakland, CA d. 27 Aug 1989, in Oakland, CA Her Mother: Guilhermina Gloria PEREIRA. Her maiden name might have been FREITAS, but right now I'm not 100% sure. I have no idea what the Americanized version of Guilhermina would be. b. 1865 from Calheta, Sao Jorge arrived Providence, RI, 17 Jul 1915 (age 50) lived in New Bedford and then went to CA. My last record of her is the 1920 Census when she is living with her daughter (Emily) and granddaughter: Patricia PERRY, b. 16 Apr 1919 in San Francisco, CA, and d. 20 Oct 2003 in Danville, CA Patricia's sister: Marie PERRY, was b. 23 May 1921 in Oakland, CA I don't know what happened to Guilhermina after 1920. She may have moved elsewhere or passed away. Does anyone recognize these people? And does anyone know what the Americanized version (if there is one) of the name Guilhermina would be? Thank you, Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of Facebook Group
Hi Tammy, Whatever it is called, I think the name should include the word Azores. Off the top of my head, how about simply: Azores Group or All Things Azores Regardless of what it is called, I think it will be a hit. Best of luck with it. Ginger On Mar 11, 2:28 pm, "tygerzeyez" wrote: > Hi Everyone!! > > Please let me know what you would like to call the facebook group and once > it's ready I will send an e-mail with the group name so that everyone can > join :O) > > Tammy Jesso --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fraternal organizations
Judy, Thank you very much for the list of organizations and offer to look for names in your records. You are awesome. I will try to first contact any of the New Bedford orgs that may help my search. However, the records you have access to may not include the names I am looking for, because these folks left Massachusetts in 1918. Thanks again. Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fraternal Organizations
Hello Group, Does anyone know the names of the Fraternal Organizations, for men or women, that existed in New Bedford, Massachusetts during the time span of 1885 to 1917? I am hoping that either my grandfather or his parents (all born in the Azores) were members of such organizatons. I have been at a brick wall for a year and a half, and unable to find any more info on them during the time they lived in New Bedford. I am hoping that records from such an organization would give me the names of the towns they came from in the Azores, so that I can begin searching the Azores records. Thank you for any assistance you can give me. Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help
P.S. No offense Judi, but the date the marriage was recorded is 5 Feb 1894. The marriage actually took place on 3 Feb 1894. I didn't want Elaine to have any confusion regarding the date. Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help
Hi Elaine, I hope this helps. I found a Marriage for Manuel Duarte and Francisca Victoria, 3 Feb 1894, in New Bedford. They were both residents of New Bedford and were married by A. G. Neves, Priest. They were both from St. Michael, Azores. His parents names were listed as, Jose Duarte and Maria Jacintha. Her parents names were listed as, Jose da Costa and Victoria Amaral. None of the others I found were even close to this. I had no luck at all using de Mello or Mello. Ginger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The book, AZores, Nine Islands, One History
Hi Celeste, All I have to say is DITTO! On Feb 9, 6:37 pm, celeste perry wrote: > While cleaning out my email file folders, I thought that maybe the book I > have been trying to read might have some answers to an email from Mel dated > 2004. > > In her email, Mel asked about the quality of life her ancestors would have > had. > > The book, by Susana Goulart Costa, Azores Nine Islands, One History, does not > answer this question or questions about ancestors in general. What the book > does do is give the reader a look at how the Islands were settled; governed; > the wars that were fought and the politics. There is great detail about all > of this and it has taken me quite awhile to dig through the first 90 pages! > So many things influenced the lives of those living in the Azores. > > I think that the reader can begin to understand what motivated the common > folk that were living in the Azores to do the things they did. I was of the > opinion that many left the Islands because there was too many people and not > enough food. I know there were various other reasons. Thus far, the book has > given me a lot of food for thought about how the politics at different times > played a part as to how people lived and why some left. I don’t get the > feeling that if you worked hard enough you could change your life. > > Maybe it is just seeing what has happened here in the US that makes me think > a young person might entertain the notion that living somewhere else might be > the way to go. Older people that have lost their retirement might also be > thinking the same thing. > Celeste, Hayward, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford Churches
Hi Nancy, I checked my hard copy of the New Bedford phone directory. St. Lawrence Church is not listed in the yellow pages with other churches, but I did find one number for it listed in the white pages section. I hope this number is different from the one you have. 508.992.4251 Good luck with your research. Ginger _ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with > mail.http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbett... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
