Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
At 15:32 +0100 23/7/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Wikimedia Commons requires certain type of licence: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose [1]. The details are explained below. The Wikimedia Commons does not accept fair use; see below for the reasons. Commons also does not accept noncommercial-only content. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
At 15:32 +0100 23/7/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Odd. That's not my reading of what this is about Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Thus the whole point of the BBC Mediabank - images to use for any purpose! On 24/07/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:32 +0100 23/7/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Wikimedia Commons requires certain type of licence: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose [1]. The details are explained below. The Wikimedia Commons does not accept fair use; see below for the reasons. Commons also does not accept noncommercial-only content. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
On 07/24/2007 12:09 PM, Brian Butterworth wrote: Thus the whole point of the BBC Mediabank - images to use for any purpose! Hardly. Material retrieved from the Media Bank must only be used within the specified embargo dates, by authorized users, may not appear in association with salacious, misleading, pornographic or many other categories of material, and not in a way that would bring the BBC's reputation for impartiality into question. Actual terms and conditions of use: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/documentation/guidelines.doc -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
ffs All you have to do to be an authorized user is register. If you can explain how using a BBC picture to accompany a BBC data feed is going to bring the BBC's reputation for impartiality into question would take a special effort of malace. On 24/07/07, Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/24/2007 12:09 PM, Brian Butterworth wrote: Thus the whole point of the BBC Mediabank - images to use for any purpose! Hardly. Material retrieved from the Media Bank must only be used within the specified embargo dates, by authorized users, may not appear in association with salacious, misleading, pornographic or many other categories of material, and not in a way that would bring the BBC's reputation for impartiality into question. Actual terms and conditions of use: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/documentation/guidelines.doc -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
this request is not limited to news feeds, so where are the BBC feeds for images that they do have copyright for? Which feeds in particular, with images? You'll find that a lot of images used on the site are not BBC copyright, and therefore the BBC doesn't have the rights to redistribute them; hence the not being in RSS feeds. This isn't exclusive to news, which has deals with AP etc, it applies to any area of the site - movies is one example that springs to mind. Now, my understanding is that the BBC generally doesn't pursue minor infringement of BBC copyright (such as occasional reuse of BBC owned images on fan websites, for instance), as it has better things to be doing with its time. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the owners of the images that the BBC has licensed will feel the same way. Remember the weather feeds? It's those underlying rights that will cause problems. I've no idea why you appear so aggressive. Because I am/was exceptionally tired and very hungover. No one is suggesting that the images are not copyright. Quotes: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, but you suggest that because they're small/of poor quality there won't be a rights issue with using them, which is a nonsense. Bearing in mind I am not a lawyer: 'Fair Use' is only a legal concept in US law. iirc; they're 'Exceptions' in UK law, sometimes referred to in the copyright act as Fair Dealing, when talking about reviewing or reporting current affairs. Here's the law in question: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm Excerpt from http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_4.htm - - Criticism, review and news reporting. 30.—(1) Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (2) Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (3) No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme. - - So - you can reuse stuff with acknowledgement - sufficient is later defined as 'title of work plus name of author' - 30(2) appears to specifically rule out photographs from being exempt for Criticism, review or news reporting. - There may be arguments to be made around 'reporting of current events' - but RSS may not fall under the means listed in 30(3) - it would reference 'electronic means' if so. - To successfully argue for exception under that clause 30(3), you'd need to get a good working legal definition of 'reporting of current events'. evidently Yahoo is ahead on this issue as it already includes links to images in at least one news feed. Clearly in this case it seems unlikely they could claim that they did not intend the links to be used... There will be a sound reason that they provide links to images, not actual images; consider the difference between the image appearing on a page republishing the feed, and a link to the image in its original context appearing on the page republishing the feed. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. On 23/07/07, Kim Plowright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this request is not limited to news feeds, so where are the BBC feeds for images that they do have copyright for? Which feeds in particular, with images? You'll find that a lot of images used on the site are not BBC copyright, and therefore the BBC doesn't have the rights to redistribute them; hence the not being in RSS feeds. This isn't exclusive to news, which has deals with AP etc, it applies to any area of the site - movies is one example that springs to mind. Now, my understanding is that the BBC generally doesn't pursue minor infringement of BBC copyright (such as occasional reuse of BBC owned images on fan websites, for instance), as it has better things to be doing with its time. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the owners of the images that the BBC has licensed will feel the same way. Remember the weather feeds? It's those underlying rights that will cause problems. I've no idea why you appear so aggressive. Because I am/was exceptionally tired and very hungover. No one is suggesting that the images are not copyright. Quotes: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, but you suggest that because they're small/of poor quality there won't be a rights issue with using them, which is a nonsense. Bearing in mind I am not a lawyer: 'Fair Use' is only a legal concept in US law. iirc; they're 'Exceptions' in UK law, sometimes referred to in the copyright act as Fair Dealing, when talking about reviewing or reporting current affairs. Here's the law in question: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm Excerpt from http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_4.htm - - Criticism, review and news reporting. 30.—(1) Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (2) Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (3) No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme. - - So - you can reuse stuff with acknowledgement - sufficient is later defined as 'title of work plus name of author' - 30(2) appears to specifically rule out photographs from being exempt for Criticism, review or news reporting. - There may be arguments to be made around 'reporting of current events' - but RSS may not fall under the means listed in 30(3) - it would reference 'electronic means' if so. - To successfully argue for exception under that clause 30(3), you'd need to get a good working legal definition of 'reporting of current events'. evidently Yahoo is ahead on this issue as it already includes links to images in at least one news feed. Clearly in this case it seems unlikely they could claim that they did not intend the links to be used... There will be a sound reason that they provide links to images, not actual images; consider the difference between the image appearing on a page republishing the feed, and a link to the image in its original context appearing on the page republishing the feed. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
On 7/23/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Gosh. A search for all images related to BBC Radio (ten national networks, another 50 nations/regions stations, a tremendous choice of talent, an unrivalled amount of content) gives me... ...some pictures of Russell Brand. From June last year. And, um, that's it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've a chocolate teapot to buy, which might be of more use. //j
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
James, Sorry about that... send them a message, they usually respond with the required logos. They did all the TV channel ones for me for Wikipedia. On 23/07/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/23/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Gosh. A search for all images related to BBC Radio (ten national networks, another 50 nations/regions stations, a tremendous choice of talent, an unrivalled amount of content) gives me... ...some pictures of Russell Brand. From June last year. And, um, that's it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've a chocolate teapot to buy, which might be of more use. //j -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Kim, that's all very interesting, however my interest is less in the legal position. Do you know of any BBC feeds that link to images? btw it is possible to provide acknowledgements for instance to reuters ap etc in the feed, and yahoo do, specifically in the alt text for the images. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 23 Jul 2007, at 11:02, Kim Plowright wrote: this request is not limited to news feeds, so where are the BBC feeds for images that they do have copyright for? Which feeds in particular, with images? You'll find that a lot of images used on the site are not BBC copyright, and therefore the BBC doesn't have the rights to redistribute them; hence the not being in RSS feeds. This isn't exclusive to news, which has deals with AP etc, it applies to any area of the site - movies is one example that springs to mind. Now, my understanding is that the BBC generally doesn't pursue minor infringement of BBC copyright (such as occasional reuse of BBC owned images on fan websites, for instance), as it has better things to be doing with its time. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the owners of the images that the BBC has licensed will feel the same way. Remember the weather feeds? It's those underlying rights that will cause problems. I've no idea why you appear so aggressive. Because I am/was exceptionally tired and very hungover. No one is suggesting that the images are not copyright. Quotes: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, but you suggest that because they're small/of poor quality there won't be a rights issue with using them, which is a nonsense. Bearing in mind I am not a lawyer: 'Fair Use' is only a legal concept in US law. iirc; they're 'Exceptions' in UK law, sometimes referred to in the copyright act as Fair Dealing, when talking about reviewing or reporting current affairs. Here's the law in question: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm Excerpt from http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_4.htm - - Criticism, review and news reporting. 30.—(1) Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (2) Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement. (3) No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme. - - So - you can reuse stuff with acknowledgement - sufficient is later defined as 'title of work plus name of author' - 30(2) appears to specifically rule out photographs from being exempt for Criticism, review or news reporting. - There may be arguments to be made around 'reporting of current events' - but RSS may not fall under the means listed in 30(3) - it would reference 'electronic means' if so. - To successfully argue for exception under that clause 30(3), you'd need to get a good working legal definition of 'reporting of current events'. evidently Yahoo is ahead on this issue as it already includes links to images in at least one news feed. Clearly in this case it seems unlikely they could claim that they did not intend the links to be used... There will be a sound reason that they provide links to images, not actual images; consider the difference between the image appearing on a page republishing the feed, and a link to the image in its original context appearing on the page republishing the feed. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
It's weird how few people follow a thread, or even read the original post James and Brian, this request concerns BBC feeds that update on a regular basis and provide suitable images or icons to indicate this... bbc weather is one case in point. yahoo news and flickr pets being others. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 23 Jul 2007, at 17:43, Brian Butterworth wrote: James, Sorry about that... send them a message, they usually respond with the required logos. They did all the TV channel ones for me for Wikipedia. On 23/07/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/23/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. Gosh. A search for all images related to BBC Radio (ten national networks, another 50 nations/regions stations, a tremendous choice of talent, an unrivalled amount of content) gives me... ...some pictures of Russell Brand. From June last year. And, um, that's it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've a chocolate teapot to buy, which might be of more use. //j -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Gary, thanks for that...I'm looking for more than just an identity logo, icons or images that change. after all that's what RSS is about... hence my mention of the weather. cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd On 21 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Gary Kirk wrote: BBC News has an icon built in to feeds, see my example at http://xinki.org.uk/site On 21/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
I think this is a rights issue so the news RSS is text only. I would like to see the User contributed photos on RSS. Thought about screen scraping but backstage does but encourage that. Davy On 7/22/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, thanks for that...I'm looking for more than just an identity logo, icons or images that change. after all that's what RSS is about... hence my mention of the weather. cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd On 21 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Gary Kirk wrote: BBC News has an icon built in to feeds, see my example at http://xinki.org.uk/site On 21/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Davy, the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. it's more likely a case that it hasn't been considered, combined with most newsreaders not being configured for images... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 22 Jul 2007, at 13:01, Davy Mitchell wrote: I think this is a rights issue so the news RSS is text only. I would like to see the User contributed photos on RSS. Thought about screen scraping but backstage does but encourage that. Davy On 7/22/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, thanks for that...I'm looking for more than just an identity logo, icons or images that change. after all that's what RSS is about... hence my mention of the weather. cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd On 21 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Gary Kirk wrote: BBC News has an icon built in to feeds, see my example at http://xinki.org.uk/site On 21/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Hi Jonathan, Yahoo news feeds include pictures: http://rss.news.yahoo.com/rss/topstories Cheers, Rich. On 7/21/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Jonathan, You asked a similar question a year ago when the rights of images was disscussed. Perhaps you might want to check the archives. Adam ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: Davy, the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. it's more likely a case that it hasn't been considered, combined with most newsreaders not being configured for images... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 22 Jul 2007, at 13:01, Davy Mitchell wrote: I think this is a rights issue so the news RSS is text only. I would like to see the User contributed photos on RSS. Thought about screen scraping but backstage does but encourage that. Davy On 7/22/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, thanks for that...I'm looking for more than just an identity logo, icons or images that change. after all that's what RSS is about... hence my mention of the weather. cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd On 21 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Gary Kirk wrote: BBC News has an icon built in to feeds, see my example at http://xinki.org.uk/site On 21/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Not sure what sort of feeds you meaning, but we at geograph.org.uk publish this feed: http://www.geograph.org.uk/feed/recent.geophotorss which is a feed of recently submitted images, this is using the little adopted PhotoRSS from http://www.pheed.com/pheed/ quite simply because couldnt find anything better at the time the feed was created. (I think mediaRSS might offer something now) On 7/21/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk -
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
On 22/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. It doesn't matter how small a picture is, it's still copyright in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, no it doesnt. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
If it is low quality or small already i.e. an icon it qualifies as fair use? IANAL, however. On 22/07/07, Kim Plowright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. It doesn't matter how small a picture is, it's still copyright in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, no it doesnt. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Kim, this request is not limited to news feeds, so where are the BBC feeds for images that they do have copyright for? I've no idea why you appear so aggressive. No one is suggesting that the images are not copyright. the fact remains that the financial benefit on small images is likely to be very little if any at all. evidently Yahoo is ahead on this issue as it already includes links to images in at least one news feed. Clearly in this case it seems unlikely they could claim that they did not intend the links to be used... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 22 Jul 2007, at 21:17, Kim Plowright wrote: On 22/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. It doesn't matter how small a picture is, it's still copyright in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. No, no it doesnt. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
