Embracing the Fruitloops: Fwd: Debunking the 9-11 ConspiracyTheorists
from RKM From: dnordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: EcoNews Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Fwd) Debunking the 9-11 Conspiracy Theorists Date: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:05 PM --- Forwarded message follows --- DEBUNKING CONSPIRACY THEORISTS PARANOID FANTASIES ABOUT SEPT 11 DISTRACT FROM THE REAL ISSUES by Gerard Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quebec.indymedia.org/node.php?id=10560 Copyright Gerard Holmgren. Jan 9 2003. This work may be freely copied and distributed without permission as long as it not for commercial use. Please include the author's name, the web address where you found it and the copyright notice. Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one ,often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. The CIA killed Hendrix The Pope had John Lennon murdered , Hitler was half Werewolf, Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone etc,etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it. So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is - sadly - a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis. One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they hate our freedoms. Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories. These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading on airline stocks - linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours ,crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do. The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposterous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions. It's difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that they effortlessly change their so called evidence in response to each aspect which is debunked. As soon as one delusion is unmasked, they simply invent another to replace it, and deny that the first ever existed. Eventually, when they have turned full circle through this endlessly changing fantasy fog , they then re-invent the original delusion and deny that you ever debunked it, thus beginning the circle once more. This technique is known as the fruit loop and saves the conspiracy theorist from ever having to see any of their ideas through to their (ill)logical conclusions. According to the practitioners of the fruit loop, 19 Arabs took over the 4 planes by subduing the passengers and crew through the use of guns,knives,box cutters and gas, and then used electronic guidance systems which they had smuggled on board to fly the planes to their targets. The suspension of disbelief required for this outrageous concoction is only for the hard core conspiracy theorist. For a start, they conveniently skip over the awkward fact that there weren't any Arabs on the planes. If there were, one must speculate that they somehow got on board without being filmed by any of the security cameras and without being registered on the passenger lists. But the curly question of how
Re: 9/11 conspiracy \ Helliwell
Thanks, Steve, for answering my query. I thought maybe there was a Tanis Helliwell connection in what you wrote below about Van Gogh. I'd heard that this book refers to Steiner. However, having just read Helliwell's Summer with the Leprecauns (passage where leprecaun meets Steiner is on pp. 82-87), I feel that the phrase as per Steiner's instructions you use below must be qualified. The leprecaun tells Helliwell that he'd met a human in his realm who'd told him I've been talking with your elder scholars about getting together a group of elementals from all castes to work with humans. We are looking for ones who think for themselves and have curiosity and courage. Interested? At the end of the passage and chapter, the author calls to the leprecaun as he is disappearing in that scene Who was the human you met almost a hundred years ago?--Steiner. Rudolph Steiner, came the faint echo. That is the only reference to Steiner in the book. The Steiner-character gives no instructions to the elemental Kingdom in the book, as might be construed from the remarks below. You do preface your remark saying Heliwell, who claims to have communion with the elemental kingdom... She has elementals working as humans (eg Van Gogh) and humans working with elementals (eg herself). I get the inkling she may have heard of Rudolph via Jean Houston's work (she is one of the people acknowledged as having helped bring the book to fruition, but I am unfamiliar with any particulars of Houston's work myself) or some other secondary source. The leprecaun told Helliwell about Van Gogh. The leprecaun also takes Philippine psychic surgeons at face value (p.45). Certainly we work with the elementals. Indeed, Hugh Courtney's theme in this weekend's Biodynamic Conference was our aiding the awareness of the Christ in the realms of subnature through the use of the preps. Not to put you on the defensive, Steve, but for the sake of clarity, I just want to be sure that all understand that the above, and what is referred to below, comes strictly from Helliwell, not Steiner. ___ Barry Lia \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Seattle WA On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:15:30 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: face in the Sun. Van Gogh was an advanced being, a high level elemental incarnated in human form, he was experiencing the future, just look at his paintings. Well, in publications of Van Gogh's letters he spoke of this, I would have to research the particular letter for an exact date. In the Podolensky lectures he speaks of the way Van Gogh drew his plants, that they look like they are biodynamically grown. And Tanis Heliwell, who claims to have communion with the elemental kingdom, said that she has been told that Van Gogh was such, a high level elemental taken Human form, as per Steiner's instructions to the elemental Kingdom due to human neglect, so they may continue their evolution. The future; Christ in the etheric, look at his paintings, then lets talk again...SStorch
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In a message dated 11/12/02 1:46:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: face in the Sun. Van Gogh was an advanced being, a high level elemental incarnated in human form, he was experiencing the future, just look at his paintings. Well, in publications of Van Gogh's letters he spoke of this, I would have to research the particular letter for an exact date. In the Podolensky lectures he speaks of the way Van Gogh drew his plants, that they look like they are biodynamically grown. And Tanis Heliwell, who claims to have communion with the elemental kingdom, said that she has been told that Van Gogh was such, a high level elemental taken Human form, as per Steiner's instructions to the elemental Kingdom due to human neglect, so they may continue their evolution. The future; Christ in the etheric, look at his paintings, then lets talk again...SStorch
love fear (was 9/11 conspiracy)
So now we are living in a time when we must create love, it is no longer given. We must develope this ability quickly. We must counter the corporate domintion of our lives through our creation of love and we can enjoy this, a new paradigm. These energies are real and present. The use of genetic engineering is on the brink of dominating our food system and our childrens diets. The womb is at risk of becoming an inaequate place to raise a fetus to birth into the world. But we shall overcome this through our creation of love. (S Storch) Michael Moore's movie Bowling for Columbine has touch a nerve. It gives voice to the total irrationality of the gun culture and its source the pervasive degree of fear that American society is uniquely suffused with. Moore's says that the underlying reason is the racism that still exists in our society. This is the love of nationalism, blood love, a form of love no longer needed in the world. It is in the melting pot of America that this now destructive form of love is being worked through and hopefully left behind. If we are to 'overcome through our love of creation' it seems to me we will need to be able to grieve deeply. Giving voice to the injustices, and the doom and destruction all around us isn't contributing to the 'negative vibes' but part of our necessary process of grieving. There isn't a day that goes by without my heart being heavy with the loss of life somewhere. Developing the capacity to allow all the suffering to come in isn't easy. Robert Sardello has been a voice in the wilderness for me. From his book Freeing the Soul From Fear: ...if you've grieved, some very interesting things occur. Grieving is a complete bodily phenomenon. It is not the same thing as sadness or depression. Every cell of your body cries out in pain. Partly that is a purification of soul life that makes possible the making of the soul as a vessel that can be radically receptive. That can only come about by taking in the suffering of all our fellow human beings. When we go that deeply into grieving there is this amazing, paradoxical phenomenon that all of the world suddenly becomes alive. The flowers are vivid, the sky is vivid. That's a kind of turnaround of soul life where soul is now open It is a task in which it may look like everything around us is breaking apart,but I don't think that's what is happening. What is happening is this movement toward developing the capacity to learn how to create love in the world.
Re: love fear (was 9/11 conspiracy)
Dear Ron, Wow! Hugh So now we are living in a time when we must create love, it is no longer given. We must develope this ability quickly. We must counter the corporate domintion of our lives through our creation of love and we can enjoy this, a new paradigm. These energies are real and present. The use of genetic engineering is on the brink of dominating our food system and our childrens diets. The womb is at risk of becoming an inaequate place to raise a fetus to birth into the world. But we shall overcome this through our creation of love. (S Storch) Michael Moore's movie Bowling for Columbine has touch a nerve. It gives voice to the total irrationality of the gun culture and its source the pervasive degree of fear that American society is uniquely suffused with. Moore's says that the underlying reason is the racism that still exists in our society. This is the love of nationalism, blood love, a form of love no longer needed in the world. It is in the melting pot of America that this now destructive form of love is being worked through and hopefully left behind. If we are to 'overcome through our love of creation' it seems to me we will need to be able to grieve deeply. Giving voice to the injustices, and the doom and destruction all around us isn't contributing to the 'negative vibes' but part of our necessary process of grieving. There isn't a day that goes by without my heart being heavy with the loss of life somewhere. Developing the capacity to allow all the suffering to come in isn't easy. Robert Sardello has been a voice in the wilderness for me. From his book Freeing the Soul From Fear: ...if you've grieved, some very interesting things occur. Grieving is a complete bodily phenomenon. It is not the same thing as sadness or depression. Every cell of your body cries out in pain. Partly that is a purification of soul life that makes possible the making of the soul as a vessel that can be radically receptive. That can only come about by taking in the suffering of all our fellow human beings. When we go that deeply into grieving there is this amazing, paradoxical phenomenon that all of the world suddenly becomes alive. The flowers are vivid, the sky is vivid. That's a kind of turnaround of soul life where soul is now open It is a task in which it may look like everything around us is breaking apart,but I don't think that's what is happening. What is happening is this movement toward developing the capacity to learn how to create love in the world. Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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Steve-the Christ has already incarnated in the etheric. RS has told in various lectures that in this, our present time the Christ will incarnate in the etheric realm. When Van Gogh was painting his heart and soul on the canvas he wrote in some letters that he could see Christ's face in the Sun. Van Gogh was an advanced being, a high level elemental incarnated in human form, he was experiencing the future, just look at his paintings. RS also predicted that the physical incarnation of Ahriman will occur within this millennium. We are preparing for that now. Just FEEL all the increased fear (Ahriman's weapon) that has been created since 9/11. Michael
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Dear Storch, Very good, very apropos. You got the message I intended, for sure. Best, Hugh Goethe once said that the weaknesses of any age exist only for the faint-hearted. Certainly we have all fallen into the trap of feeling sorry for ourselves and not bucking up to our responsibilities, God, is that easy. Our work on the land using the biodynamic remedies has far reaching effects that extend down into the earth's core from the elemental kingdom to the far reaches of the heavens, preparing the earth for the time when it shall become a shining star in the heavens and the spirit homeland for the Christ. RS has told in various lectures that in this, our present time the Christ will incarnate in the etheric realm. When Van Gogh was painting his heart and soul on the canvas he wrote in some letters that he could see Christ's face in the Sun. Van Gogh was an advanced being, a high level elemental incarnated in human form, he was experiencing the future, just look at his paintings. RS left us many things for the practical day to day healing of humanity and the healing of the earth. Central to all of his impulses was the Christ, and he has given us the tools to enhance and prepare and create and enjoy. The age of consciousness soul, what a beautiful thing. We have been told that through this time humans will be soon giving birth through our larynx. We already have so much power through the spoken word and we do not take proper caution nor advantage of this energy. So now we are living in a time when we must create love, it is no longer given. We must develope this ability quickly. We must counter the corporate domintion of our lives through our creation of love and we can enjoy this, a new paradigm. These energies are real and present. The use of genetic engineering is on the brink of dominating our food system and our childrens diets. The womb is at risk of becoming an inaequate place to raise a fetus to birth into the world. But we shall overcome this through our creation of love. All those using the biodynamic remedies are setting the stage for this new world order. An order founded on love and powerful human intentionality. When the remedies are stirred and your intention is placed into the water and applied to the land there is an unstoppable force of love being broadcast out to the ethers. Christ in the etheric; places so energized are linking up in the ether and connecting all over the planet. I have seen places sprayed only once instantly transform. So, our time has come. Let's not forget why we are here. Let's do our work and heal the earth and heal humanity through biodynamics and associative economics. It is through this work that we may evolve spiritually and incarnate as angels when the task is accomplished...SStorch Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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John - no offence taken: I can well understand your attitude in the midst of supposed conspiracies which are both confusing and threatening. Tony N-S. From: John Buckley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:47:16 -0500 Tony ... I re-read what I sent earlier and I apologize. My words show the cynicism that most Americans proffer. It shows our maturing into a protective zone that acknowledges how dangerous the truth really is. Our cynicism has emasculated us. I take your question as honest and I responded dishonestly. I meant no disrespect. It's just that here we all know the nature of the game. I know this Gordian Knot of life in America can be undone, and the first step is embracing an honesty, an integrity, that we can embrace starting now. John Buckley mountains of North Carolina _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
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In our work and in the process of Love we must not fear and condemn the Luciferic and Ahrimanic streams. Through our recognition and Love of these consciousnesses we will redeem them and save them from themselves and in turn they may offer up their service to humanity in a new and positive manner. By running away from these beings we make hippocrits of ourselves because we pick and choose which of their contributions to society we would like to embrace. Remember the story of Christ's temptation by Lucifer; upon being recognized by Christ, Lucifer had to run away. So, it is now our task to redeem these beings through Love and Conscious Soul, language and intent. Think of it as a new trinity, Christ, Lucifer, Ahriman. Let these streams of consciousness be embraced by beings of light instead of the dark forces and see the difference...sstorch
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Dear Ones, I am new to the whole listserve, but not to spiritual science. I wrote a long response to this the other evening after I returned from the Josephine Porter Institute, and it vaporized off my screen, well here goes again, lets see what comes... Humanity has crossed the Threshold into the Age of the Consciousness Soul. That means us. It is easy to slam the polititians, to point the attention at the Multi-nationals. and talk about sustainability, etc, or why isn't BD more "seen" in the world, any number of gripes and assessments. When we do this, unseen forces are able to utilize our 'juices' for the emergence of Materialism further into the Earths being. Rudolf Steiner gave a plan for the antecdote to this reality. Associative Economics. It has gone un-done. Yet there are individuals working diligently to sort this through for all our benefit, of which, in Freedom we can come to practice and implement. The ways I expereince the build up of these adversarial forces is any time I judge, assess, perpetrate, victimize, behave as if I am a victim, anything that smacks of any of these behaviors, leaves out the possibility of LOVE in the (world). I am not talking of some warm fuzzy. Spiritual Science speaks to that now Love is no longer a given, it must be created, created by us, Human Beings here on the Earth. How is Love created? Attention, interest, warmth, investment. In the OTHER. I work for you. I labor for you. Work to Create Peace and Love for us all, Jane Parker
Re: RE Loss and Rebirth 9/11
Cheryl - It IS really freaky. Essie At 03:52 PM 11/01/02 +1100, you wrote: Have you seen what can happen when you print in the flight number of the first plane to hit the WTC on 9/11 In word new doc, print in the flight number Q33NY Change type size to 26, then change the font to Wingdings and see what you get - really freaky. see below if you want see it before you try it yourself Q33NY Cheryl Kemp Education and Workshop Coordinator Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au
Re: RE Loss and Rebirth 9/11
Hate to burst everyone's conspiracy bubble, but Q33NY isn't a flight number...(let alone the flight number of one of the tower planes). The internet is a great way to spread information (and dis- and mis- information too). Check out www.snopes.com It's a great site to check out the 'urban legends' becoming so prominant in today's cyber-society. click on the 9/11 rumours link and scroll down to 'wingding' link. Sure is some good reading on some of the other links too. Co-incidence? no such thing. But when you start with the truth and draw the lines usually truth is the result. Here in America there is a conspiracy hiding under every bed...(the commies left in the mid-80's). And yeah, sure, there was ice build up on the wings of Senator Wellstone's plane. Keep the faith, (but check your sources) Ed PS haven't seen any refrence to molten steel on the snopes website, so Cheryl - It IS really freaky. Essie At 03:52 PM 11/01/02 +1100, you wrote: Have you seen what can happen when you print in the flight number of the first plane to hit the WTC on 9/11 In word new doc, print in the flight number Q33NY Change type size to 26, then change the font to Wingdings and see what you get - really freaky. see below if you want see it before you try it yourself Q33NY Cheryl Kemp Education and Workshop Coordinator Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: mailto:cheryl;biodynamics.net.au[EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.biodynamics.net.auwww.biodynamics.net.au
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Dear Jane, I've been down al lot of hard roads--that I put myself down and I'm not complaining about. I can't think of anyone, Richard Nixon or Josef Stalin that I wouldn't talk civilly to or give a free meal to, and I've been in jails, prisons, projects and wilds with some real psychos like I hope you have no need to meet. There's a real guardian angel over me or I wouldn't be here at all. I got disillioned with flag waving during Viet Nam--stupid me, I volunteered! That was an awakening! Set me really looking for the things you're talking about. I was putting forward what I remember of history and what I see of the present with a few percent speculation about the recent past and immediate future in the hopes others would get as disillusioned as I was back in Viet Nam times and opt out of that old world order into the kind of world you're talking about. You? You don't need it. You've already woke up. Good head on your shoulders, good ideas. But I hope we pull more folks off that freight train to hell, and pretending to wave my flag doesn't entertain me. I think George Bush is in a very tight place. I imagine he's trying to make the best out of what mistakes his father and others before him made. I'm waiting to see what he knows about how to do that. While I think he'd be better being up-front about things, I don't imagine it will work that way. But he may be getting it all out into view anyway. I have no way to tell. I'm in no position to judge. The best I can do is see how it all comes out in the end. Seems like it will be interesting. I put what I did on the list because I don't close my eyes and cower, but prefer to keep my eyes open and try to be calm and above all, non-judgmental. I told you who I would vote for and what I think will help, but I'm not trying to slam ANYONE. I probably do that sometimes when I'm too unconscious. I've been up all night writing on a manual abaout making rain, and now must pick for my CSA. Here's a bit of what I was laboring so hard at. Writing is work. I don't think I've met you before, have I? Best, Hugh Lovel The Elements Just how is nature organized? The ancients called the elements fire, air, water and earth. But, I'd better be clear what I mean by element. There might be some confusion between the four elements of classical thinking and the hundred plus elements of the periodic table. Sulfur is what we commonly associate with fire. If you want a fire, strike a sulfur match. With air we think of nitrogen as nitrogen in its pure form is the main component of air. With water we associate hydrogen, which comes from the Greek word for it. In German it is Wasserstoff, the stuff of water). Finally carbon, the basis of life, is associated with the earth. Carbon forms the hardest of all minerals, diamond. I could compare earth, water, air and fire to what is known as the solid, liquid, gaseous and radiant states of matter. It is an obvious basis of comparison, but the word element here refers to more than state. Each of the elements has a specific character associated with its state, namely the characters of sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen and carbon. Then there is ether. Ether is what enlivens each of the physical elements. In India the four physical elements are associated with the four fingers of the hand while the thumb represents the ether. It is the agency of organization. If we associate ether with oxygen, we then have what we might call the five sisters, oxygen, sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen and carbon, which along with a handful of minerals form our physical bodies. In agriculture, in at least in quantum agriculture, these five are usually free for the taking from the environment. It is not normal to have to buy them. Normally, the best things in life are free. The fact that so much of modern agriculture applies so much salt nitrogen-and pays good money for it-is an indication of how badly deranged it is. Four Ethers Because the principle of organization, the ether, works differently with each element, we can say we have four ethers. With the four elements we have something substantial that we can measure. But with the corresponding four ethers all we have is an organizational principle that indirectly shows its effects in the way organization arises. The organizational principle for fire is warmth. There is little difference between warmth and fire, as they go hand in hand. If you just had sulfur by itself you would not have fire. But when sulfur combines with oxygen, fire and warmth occur. We might place sulfur is on the fire side of the substance/ether divide and oxygen on the warmth side. For the air to give life it must have oxygen too, albeit that in the air it is inactive, just as the nitrogen is inactive. With air we have a level of greater density where the organizational principle is light. Air is the perfect medium for conducting light, and light goes with air hand in glove. Then with water we have an even denser level. Though light
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Dear Friends, Here is a post I just sent to the Oxyplus email list which is also apropos to this discussion: You are all describing much the same thing from different viewpoints. I am particular fond of Nina's description [see below] which uses concepts of frequency medicine to describe how we set up resonances which attract the things we belive strongly in. I would like to add to what Nina wrote. It is very important here to make the distinction between wanting pain and choosing pain. When I drop a glass of water and then cut myself while picking up the pieces of glass I would not say that I wanted to cut myself but I would say that the cut was clearly a consequence of my choice to pick up the glass with my bare fingers. A smoker may continue to smoke despite the knowledge that smoking often has lung disease as a consequence. I would not say that the smoker wants lung cancer but if lung cancer happened to the smoker it would be clear that his or her actions brought about favorable conditions for lung cancer. Every worldview that I know of has several sayings which express this. In the Christian worldview we have statements like: He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. Judge not lest you be judged. In the scientific world view we have: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In the modern business worldview there is: What goes around comes around. You get what you pay for. Hindu's speak of the law of karma; Buddhists say the cause of suffering is addiction. Nina used the term resonance. I really like this term too. Imagine that you have two dinner bells hanging on your front porch. One bell is the love bell and the other bell is the fear bell. The love bell is tuned to the frequency of love and every harmonic of love. The fear bell is tuned to fear and the harmonics of fear. Some of the harmonics of love are abundance, happiness, connection, knowledge, synchronicity, prayer and community. Some of the harmonics of fear are hatred, anger, disaster, pain, judgement and violence. Each of these bells calls those things which resonate with it in for dinner. When we ring the love bell we call in those things which resonate with love. When we ring the fear bell we call those things which resonate with fear to dinner. Each of us has the power to see which bell we spend the most time with. What has come to dinner is a clue to which bell we spend our time ringing. This clue; this knowledge gives us the personal power to change unpleasant conditions in our own lives. If we were helpless victims of circumstances beyond our control then we would not have the power to change our circumstances of our lives. Pain can inform and improve our decisions. When I jumped off the swing as a child the pain of landing taught me not to jump from a second story balcony. The structures around us want us to depend on them. Corporate medicine encourages our dependence. Corporate agriculture does the same. We can all think of examples of this from this forum. If a structure becomes our sole source of supply for something we need, we will tend to support that structure despite other things it does that we don't like. When we have given a structure such power over us, that structure will encourage our belief that we are helpless victims of circumstances beyond our control so that they can sell us a method of limited control at a price. If I do not believe that my health is under my control then I will buy health insurance to insure some modicum of control over my health. Dr. Emoto has published pictures of the structural changes that prayer makes in ice crystals. Stephen has described some of the ways he has used to increase his love resonance and these are effective techniques. There are many more techniques to do this. These techniques are described in almost every world religion and worldview. We all know that there is a psychological component to disease. We have all heard stories of people who have overcome their conditions through determination and compassion despite an overwhelmingly negative prognosis. Science and scientists are coming to the realization that all things are connected. Some call this connection the zero point field, some call it the implicate order others call it the morphogenic field and still others call it quantum coherence or quantum non-local interaction. This field appears to connect us all. Resonances are propagated through this field. Some of the recent scientific research in this area is described in Lynne McTaggart's latest book titled The Field. You can read more about this area of research in an article that I recently wrote at: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/review.htm I tend to think of the resonances of love and fear as a river and a dam. As long as the love is flowing all that it carries is well distributed. When the flow is damned up by fear all the crap accumulates in the reservoir behind
9/11 conspiracy
The Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing out many peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the fact that for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijacked planes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumably all this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across the Atlantic?Tony N-S. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
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Tony ... We (Americans) live in the land of conspiracy theories, which some say is well justified. The CIA is well documented as the driving force behind all sorts of heinous activity, and we learn of these things after the guilty are dead and gone. I imagine that most are afraid to make such conjectures right now; they, we, I, are just keeping low, heads down. It seems ignoble, embarrassing to admit to this behavior, but when the avalanche is roaring down the mountain what else is there to do? The people in power are determined to remain so, such is the history of the world. All I know to do is bear witness. Any suggestions? John Buckley mountains of North Carolina - Original Message - From: Tony Nelson-Smith To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: 9/11 conspiracy The Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing out many peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the fact that for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijacked planes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumably all this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across the Atlantic? Tony N-S._Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
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John and Tony, The gulags in Alaska aren't activated yet, at least not to my knowledge. So I probably have a little time left on this list. I'm non-violent and would never do anything to hurt the Bushes of this world, so I'll probably be sent to the gulags. In some ways I'm looking forward to Alaska--not the cold or the drilling, mining and timbering. but I'm 55 and still in good health. I plan to ask to work in food service. It's something I'm good at, and in all the American prisons of my past experience most prisoners try to avoid working there. You have to get up too early for one thing. As for the Gore Vidal thing, Bush's behavior and the Air Force's failure to scramble planes might be explained away--but not MOLTEN POOLS OF STEEL weeks afterward ands SHARP SEISMIC SPIKES just before the buildings collapsed. I'm waiting for Bush to stage his own assassination on television, which he will miraculously survive. It's speculation, but it seems logical to me. It will be a good excuse to declare martial law. Best, Hugh Tony ... We (Americans) live in the land of conspiracy theories, which some say is well justified. The CIA is well documented as the driving force behind all sorts of heinous activity, and we learn of these things after the guilty are dead and gone. I imagine that most are afraid to make such conjectures right now; they, we, I, are just keeping low, heads down. It seems ignoble, embarrassing to admit to this behavior, but when the avalanche is roaring down the mountain what else is there to do? The people in power are determined to remain so, such is the history of the world. All I know to do is bear witness. Any suggestions? John Buckley mountains of North Carolina - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Tony Nelson-Smith To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: 9/11 conspiracy The Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing out many peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the fact that for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijacked planes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumably all this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across the Atlantic?Tony N-S. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp>http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
Hi! Hugh, John, Tony, What worried me was watching the TV in England, having had a phone call and switched on after the first impact and before the second and at that time it was said to be an accident. Just after we tuned in, the second plan hit. The TV in the streets immediately interviewed supposed independent bystanders. Most of those then spoke what was clearly rehearsed and possibly scripted lines. It was not the spontaneous utterances of confused people caught in the cross fire. I think the media was well primes and was waiting, complete with pre qualified interviewees. Gil Hugh Lovel wrote: John and Tony, The gulags in Alaska aren't activated yet,
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
Dear Hugh, John and Tony, Actually, the US already has a Gulag. It is called Quantanimo, Cuba. Even a Canadian-born Canadian is held there with no access by Can. authorities. Another Syrian-born Canadian was deported not to Canada, but, to Syria, without any notification to Canada. That guy is currently sitting in a Syrian jail. I would not be surprised that he is only guilty of evading Syrian military duty-nothing more, and ...being born in Syria. Michael - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy John and Tony,The gulags in Alaska aren't activated yet, at least not to my knowledge. So I probably have a little time left on this list. I'm non-violent and would never do anything to hurt the Bushes of this world, so I'll probably be sent to the gulags. In some ways I'm looking forward to Alaska--not the cold or the drilling, mining and timbering. but I'm 55 and still in good health. I plan to ask to work in food service. It's something I'm good at, and in all the American prisons of my past experience most prisoners try to avoid working there. You have to get up too early for one thing.As for the Gore Vidal thing, Bush's behavior and the Air Force's failure to scramble planes might be explained away--but not MOLTEN POOLS OF STEEL weeks afterward ands SHARP SEISMIC SPIKES just before the buildings collapsed.I'm waiting for Bush to stage his own assassination on television, which he will miraculously survive. It's speculation, but it seems logical to me. It will be a good excuse to declare martial law.Best,Hugh Tony ... We (Americans) live in the land of conspiracy theories, which some say is well justified. The CIA is well documented as the driving force behind all sorts of heinous activity, and we learn of these things after the guilty are dead and gone. I imagine that most are afraid to make such conjectures right now; they, we, I, are just keeping low, heads down. It seems ignoble, embarrassing to admit to this behavior, but when the avalanche is roaring down the mountain what else is there to do? The people in power are determined to remain so, such is the history of the world. All I know to do is bear witness. Any suggestions?John Buckleymountains of North Carolina- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tony Nelson-SmithTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:25 PMSubject: 9/11 conspiracyThe Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing outmany peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon,notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the factthat for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijackedplanes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumablyall this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across theAtlantic? Tony N-S._Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now!http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asphttp://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.aspVisit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
Dear Hugh, John and Tony, Actually, the US already has a Gulag. It is called Quantanimo, Cuba. Even a Canadian-born Canadian is held there with no access by Can. authorities. Another Syrian-born Canadian was deported not to Canada, but, to Syria, without any notification to Canada. That guy is currently sitting in a Syrian jail. I would not be surprised that he is only guilty of evading Syrian military duty-nothing more, and ...being born in Syria. Michael Michael, Actually the US has gulags in Alaska too, and has had since Reagan. They just aren't putting anyone in them yet so far as I know. Hugh - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hugh Lovel To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy John and Tony, The gulags in Alaska aren't activated yet, at least not to my knowledge. So I probably have a little time left on this list. I'm non-violent and would never do anything to hurt the Bushes of this world, so I'll probably be sent to the gulags. In some ways I'm looking forward to Alaska--not the cold or the drilling, mining and timbering. but I'm 55 and still in good health. I plan to ask to work in food service. It's something I'm good at, and in all the American prisons of my past experience most prisoners try to avoid working there. You have to get up too early for one thing. As for the Gore Vidal thing, Bush's behavior and the Air Force's failure to scramble planes might be explained away--but not MOLTEN POOLS OF STEEL weeks afterward ands SHARP SEISMIC SPIKES just before the buildings collapsed. I'm waiting for Bush to stage his own assassination on television, which he will miraculously survive. It's speculation, but it seems logical to me. It will be a good excuse to declare martial law. Best, Hugh Tony ... We (Americans) live in the land of conspiracy theories, which some say is well justified. The CIA is well documented as the driving force behind all sorts of heinous activity, and we learn of these things after the guilty are dead and gone. I imagine that most are afraid to make such conjectures right now; they, we, I, are just keeping low, heads down. It seems ignoble, embarrassing to admit to this behavior, but when the avalanche is roaring down the mountain what else is there to do? The people in power are determined to remain so, such is the history of the world. All I know to do is bear witness. Any suggestions? John Buckley mountains of North Carolina - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Tony Nelson-Smith To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: 9/11 conspiracy The Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing out many peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the fact that for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijacked planes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumably all this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across the Atlantic? Tony N-S. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp>http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp Visit our website at: www.unionag.org Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
RE Loss and Rebirth 9/11
Have you seen whatcan happen when you print in the flight number of the first plane to hit the WTC on 9/11 In word new doc,print in the flight number Q33NY Change type size to 26, then change the font to Wingdings and see what you get - really freaky. see below if you want see it before you try it yourself Q33NY Cheryl KempEducation and Workshop CoordinatorBiodynamic AgriCulture AustraliaPhone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]web: www.biodynamics.net.au
Re: 9/11 conspiracy
Tony ... I re-read what I sent earlier and Iapologize. My words show the cynicism that most Americans proffer. It shows our maturing into a protective zone that acknowledges how dangerous the truth really is. Our cynicism has emasculated us. I take your question as honest and I responded dishonestly. I meant no disrespect. It's just that here we all know the nature of the game. I know this Gordian Knot of life in America can be undone, and the first step is embracing an honesty, an integrity, that we can embrace starting now. John Buckley mountains of North Carolina
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What??? A conspiracy??? Here in the land of the free??? Heck I think it's a whole lot easier to try figure out which events aren't conspiracies. In Love and Light ( the hope that it will eventually overcome), Mr. Chris - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy Dear Hugh, John and Tony,Actually, the US already has a Gulag. It is called Quantanimo, Cuba. Even a Canadian-born Canadian is held there with no access by Can. authorities. Another Syrian-born Canadian was deported not to Canada, but, to Syria, without any notification to Canada. That guy is currently sitting in a Syrian jail. I would not be surprised that he is only guilty of evading Syrian military duty-nothing more, and ...being born in Syria. MichaelMichael,Actually the US has gulags in Alaska too, and has had since Reagan. They just aren't putting anyone in them yet so far as I know.Hugh - Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hugh LovelTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:22 PMSubject: Re: 9/11 conspiracyJohn and Tony,The gulags in Alaska aren't activated yet, at least not to my knowledge. So I probably have a little time left on this list. I'm non-violent and would never do anything to hurt the Bushes of this world, so I'll probably be sent to the gulags. In some ways I'm looking forward to Alaska--not the cold or the drilling, mining and timbering. but I'm 55 and still in good health. I plan to ask to work in food service. It's something I'm good at, and in all the American prisons of my past experience most prisoners try to avoid working there. You have to get up too early for one thing.As for the Gore Vidal thing, Bush's behavior and the Air Force's failure to scramble planes might be explained away--but not MOLTEN POOLS OF STEEL weeks afterward ands SHARP SEISMIC SPIKES just before the buildings collapsed.I'm waiting for Bush to stage his own assassination on television, which he will miraculously survive. It's speculation, but it seems logical to me. It will be a good excuse to declare martial law.Best,HughTony ...We (Americans) live in the land of conspiracy theories, which some say is well justified. The CIA is well documented as the driving force behind all sorts of heinous activity, and we learn of these things after the guilty are dead and gone. I imagine that most are afraid to make such conjectures right now; they, we, I, are just keeping low, heads down. It seems ignoble, embarrassing to admit to this behavior, but when the avalanche is roaring down the mountain what else is there to do? The people in power are determined to remain so, such is the history of the world. All I know to do is bear witness. Any suggestions?John Buckleymountains of North Carolina- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tony Nelson-SmithTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:25 PMSubject: 9/11 conspiracyThe Observer last Sunday carried a long article by Gore Vidal pointing outmany peculiarities about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon,notably the oddly unfazed behaviour of pseudo-president Bush and the factthat for nearly an hour and a half after radar first observed the hijackedplanes deviating from course there was no Air Force activity. Presumablyall this has appeared in the States? Any comment from you across theAtlantic? Tony N-S._Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now!http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asphttp://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.aspVisit our website at: www.unionag.orgVisit our website at: www.unionag.org
FW: (a 9-11 reminder...) For the Michael Age
From my files... Thank you Steve the many others in my life who have brought this piece to my attention. -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:15:13 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: a 9-11 reminder... For the Michael Age We must eradicate from the soul All fear and terror of what comes towards Man Out of the future And we must acquire serenity In all feelings and sensations about the future We must look forward With absolute equanimity to everything that may come And we must think only that whatever comes Is given to us by a world directive full of wisdom It is part of what we must learn in this age, Namely to live out of pure trust Without any security in existence. Trust in that ever present help of the spiritual world. Truly, nothing else will do If our courage is not to fail us. And we must seek this awakening within Ourselves Every morning and every evening. Rudolph Steiner, from a lecture given in 1910 -- End of Forwarded Message
Re: FW: (a 9-11 reminder...) For the Michael Age
Not to diminish the value of these words,but just to set the record straight, I merely point out that--similar to the popular "Genius has boldness" verse attributed to Goethe--this verse has origins in Steiner's work, but is not actually directly from his pen or mouth as such. For those who are interested, I'll paste below exerpts from three emails that appeared on the anthropos-sciencelist this time last year that spelled this out. On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:55:14 -0500 Jane Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: a 9-11 reminder... For the Michael Age We must eradicate from the soul All fear and terror of what comes towards Man Out of the future And we must acquire serenity In all feelings and sensations about the future We must look forward With absolute equanimity to everything that may come And we must think only that whatever comes Is given to us by a world directive full of wisdom It is part of what we must learn in this age, Namely to live out of pure trust Without any security in existence. Trust in that ever present help of the spiritual world. Truly, nothing else will do If our courage is not to fail us. And we must seek this awakening within Ourselves Every morning and every evening. Rudolph Steiner, from a lecture given in 1910 -- End of Forwarded Message [first exerpt] This "trust meditation" is one of several translations of several versions that are in circulation. The editors at the Rudolf Steiner Archive, however, have pointed out that none of these versions were ever given as such by Rudolf Steiner. They were created by unknown persons by patching together and modifying various passages from Steiner's lectures (or possibly from elsewhere). The first six lines in the above version, for example, are an abbreviated passage from Steiner's lecture "Cognition and Immortality" (Bremen, Nov. 27, 1910), which has been published only in the Archive newsletter (Beiträge zur Rudolf Steiner Gesamtausgabe, #98, p. 10). The remaining lines come from the end of Emanuel Zeylmans' biography of his father, "Willem Zeylmans van Emmichoven. Ein Pionier der Anthroposophie" (Arlesheim 1979, p. 358). The son relates that at his father's death he found a slip of paper in his father's wallet with these lines, which supposedly came from Rudolf Steiner. Although this is entirely possible (Willem was a friend of Steiner's and became the General Secretary of the Dutch Anthroposophical Society), the editors at the Rudolf Steiner Archive have not been able to independently verify the source of these words.The foregoing facts do not necessarily affect the truth of the whole "verse," but readers should be aware that it was not given as such by Rudolf Steiner and that it therefore probably does not have the occult power inherent in Steiner's other meditative verses. [exerpt two] I think the reference everyone is looking for is 27th November 1919.Where Steiner said."First, however, everything that remains of the old will have to bereduced to nothingness. The clouds will have to gather round the humanbeing, and he will have to find his freedom - find his own power, hisown strength out of this nothingness. Outer material need will changeinto soul need, and out of this deep need of the soul will vision beborn.We must tear up by the roots every trace of fear and shrinking in faceof what the future threatens to bring to human beings. All our feelingabout the future must be permeated with calm and confidence. Absoluteequanimity in face of whatever the future may bring - that is what manhas to acquire, knowing as he does that everything that happens, happensunder an all-wise cosmic guidance.Our part is to do what is right in each moment as it comes - and toleave the rest to the future, That indeed is the lesson we have tolearn in our time, to base our lives on simple trust. without anysecurity of existence, to have trust in the ever-present help of thespiritual world. That is the only way for us if our courage is not tofail. Let us then set to work to discipline our will."(based on a translation by Mary Adams) [exerpt three] Steiner did not say this on Nov. 27, 1919; this is another amalgam of out of context passages. In this amalgam the first paragraph is extracted from the end of Steiner's lecture of Oct. 30, 1920 (GA 200, p. 120), which is published in English as lecture 6 of "The New Spirituality". The second paragraph is a different translation of the first paragraph of the "trust meditation" that I commented on earlier (the date is Nov. 27, 1910, not 1919). I don't know where the first sentence of the third paragraph comes from. The remainder of the last paragraph is a different (and incomplete) translation of the material from Emmichoven.___Barry Lia \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Seattle WA
Protection Clearing of Negativity: was a 9-11 reminder...
The following Technique is from and I have found item very useful. Blessings In Love Light Markess - THE HEALING PRINCIPLES OF CHIRON COMPILED IN 1988 BY ANDREW AND TREVOR CREED ISBN No.: 0 646 28969 1 ~ Copyright 1988 Chironic Enterprises Pty. Ltd. A C.N. 007 354 X23 120-122 Merri Street. Warrnambool, 3280 Victoria7 AUSTRALIA. 4th Printing 1996. PROTECTION THIS STEP IS ESSENTIAL TO THE ACHIEVEMENT OF ALL THE HEALING POSSIBILITIES THAT WORKING WITH THE ETHERIC ENERGY FIELD OPENS UP. In your mind picture your whole body immersed in a glowing bubble or shower of radiant white light. See it streaming from a pure source way above your head, or from deep within you. Spend a little time with this and make sure you have a good picture; even try to feel the light wash all through and around you from toe to head. The effect of this exercise is to set up the initial connection with your subconscious Intelligence. White light is the purest thought that any person may hold and it has a most soothing effect on disturbed emotions. By calming and polarizing some of the less distorted body energies the white light visualization allows your subconscious energies a much freer flow so you and your patient will have maximum healing benefit. An added bonus of the white light is that in surrounding your body it acts as a buffer to some of the outer energy vibrations which can cause etheric damage, hence the title of this step, PROTECTION. We would encourage you to practice this step thoroughly as many times as you can, whether on your own or with friends or patients. Work with the light until you have a very strong concept and mental picture for it is only through white light that true healing may occur. Consider that the fundamental basis of all physical creation is a matrix of light and you will begin to see the importance of keeping your body bathed in harmonious white light. The theory of relativity opened up mankind's perception of the Universe in terms of light energy but, unfortunately, our scientists have begun to meddle with the symmetry of Earth's created matrix and have distorted the very etheric energy in which we live. By the proper use of conscious thought energy and the calming effect of white light we as healers can take the responsibility of restoring natural harmonies in ourselves and the people around us thus aiding the World as a whole. CLEARING The outer energies referred to in the previous step can fall into the categories of microwaves, nuclear radiation's, emissions from high voltage power lines, x-rays, etc. The protection step serves as a very effective shield against harmful effects of these pollutants. There is, however, a different class of energy rarely discussed, yet, very influential on the overall health of every person, NEGATIVE ENERGY. We speak here not of positive and negative energy as exists in the various systems of the body but instead of a type of energy which is negative to the health of any one person! To clarify this concept it helps to remember the basic Universal law, ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT! (ie: For anything to be done it must first be thought of;- either consciously or subconsciously.) Now, consider throughout the whole of human history how many people have thought! Also ponder the number of people who have been in similar situations and in a blaze of emotion have thought the same thought such as, I'll kill myself!, and other such depressing notions. It is these dreary and fanatical ideas which have been repeated countlessly, thus giving them a huge amount of energy which can be so detrimental to human health. Uncontrolled thoughts and emotions have spilled away from individuals over the ages and have pooled together in black clouds of energy all around the Earth. By another Universal law, LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE!, amounts of this energy attach themselves regularly to all those people who at any given time allow themselves to entertain a similar dreary thought, (ie: You and me and ninety nine percent of the rest of the World). Once some of that black, emotional thought energy intersperses amongst an individual's body field then, of course, subconscious life energies are greatly inhibited and that person may experience any number of unexplained emotions and mysterious pains and illnesses. That is the problem we experience but the solution as described by this step is, CLEARING. As a healer of others you must be sure that first your own energies are cleared of black interference. To completely cleanse yourself after protecting simply use another visualization. Focus on the source of your white light protection. Picture it as a huge burning sun of pure white light. See a wave of light sweep upwards from your feet right up over your head carrying any bits of blackness into the burning sun . Practice this well making sure to see the blackness engulfed by the light completely, and to
FW: pray on 9-11
Prayer for a United World By Paramahansa Yogananda May the heads of all countries and races be guided to understand that men of all nations are physically and spiritually one: physically one, because we are the descendants of common parents — the symbolic Adam and Eve; and spiritually one, because we are the immortal children of our Father, bound by eternal links of brotherhood.Let us pray in our hearts for a League of Souls and a United World. Though we may seem divided by race, creed, color, class, and political prejudices, still, as children of the one God we are able in our souls to feel brotherhood and world unity. May we work for the creation of a United World in which every nation will be a useful part, guided by God through man’s enlightened conscience. In our hearts we can all learn to be free from hate and selfishness. Let us pray for harmony among the nations, that they march hand in hand through the gate of a fair new civilization. Prayer for others is one of the highest services we can offer to the world. We invite you to join in spirit the monks and nuns of Self-Realization Fellowship on Wednesday, September 11 at the noon hour (Pacific Daylight Time) as we pray for world peace and for all those who have been affected by the tragedy of 9/11. Even if you could only spend one or two minutes in silent prayer at noon, this would be of tremendous benefit to all. Paramahansa Yogananda has said, "Most men consider the course of events as natural and inevitable. They little know what radical changes are possible through prayer." Sitemap | Home
Re: a 9-11 reminder...
Title: Re: a 9-11 reminder... Whoohooo! exactly RIGHT-ON! In Love Light Markess For the Michael Age We must eradicate from the soul All fear and terror of what comes towards Man Out of the future And we must acquire serenity In all feelings and sensations about the future We must look forward With absolute equanimity to everything that may come And we must think only that whatever comes Is given to us by a world directive full of wisdom It is part of what we must learn in this age, Namely to live out of pure trust Without any security in existence. Trust in that ever present help of the spiritual world. Truly, nothing else will do If our courage is not to fail us. And we must seek this awakening within Ourselves Every morning and every evening. Rudolph Steiner, from a lecture given in 1910 --- Thanks Brother!
Re: 9-11
In a message dated 8/11/02 11:31:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me there is a huge gulf between the two and I was trying to account for your sentiments, or to try to re-adjust my perceptions. Two separate events...the bombing and the memorial service. The original event may have been ''let'' to happen for a couple of reasons: 1. ''they'' need a war to make some real $$$. 2. Manhattan is in such bad shape structurally, the physical plant, the garbage that they generate and have nowhere to put, 3. the large financial interests want out, and 4. a recent report indictes that the steel in the towers was inadequate in the first place. All these scenarios are pathetic reasons to cause such loss of life, not to mention post- traumatizing all these poor citiots. But ''the powers that be'' operate with a different set of standards and morals than us plain folk. Now a dude like governer pataki is left holding the bag and the moron cannot even write a proper speech to honor those who died in the attack and those who died trying to help, he has to read the Gettysberg Address. As far as I am concerned he should resign and get a job pushing a broom. I feel that if theyare going to put on this show at least it should be a real , honest effort. Does that clarify my sentiments??? SStorch
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Our pathetic New York leaders want to honor the 9-11 dead by reading the ''Gettysberg Address'' written and spoken by Abe Lincoln on the hallowed battlefields of Gettysberg. They want to read the ''Four Freedoms'' that was written and spoken by Roosevelt after WWII. What a dishonour to those who died in these battles. What a symbol of our times that our catatonic leaders cannot come up with some original prose to honour those who died at the WTC on 9-11. They should crawl back under the rock they came out from under to [dis]serve the people of the state of NY and these united states...SStorch
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Our pathetic New York leaders want to honor the 9-11 dead Steve - I understood you to say a few weeks ago that the 9/11 holocaust was setup by corporation that needed government funding to move out of NYC. You last couple of posts do not seem consistant with the theory. Where are you at now on this? -Allan
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are you starting with me??? I relayed a piece of info from an aquaintance in regrds to the events in Manhattan and the deteriorating infrastructure...the 9-11 message is about the potato[e] heads that lead our state...where is the relation???SStorch
Re: 9-11
are you starting with me??? I relayed a piece of info from an aquaintance in regrds to the events in Manhattan and the deteriorating infrastructure...the 9-11 message is about the potato[e] heads that lead our state...where is the relation???SStorch To me there is a huge gulf between the two and I was trying to account for your sentiments, or to try to re-adjust my perceptions. Count me in Mr. Roboz' court on this one. It's the kind of country where a guy can be caught with his pants down and beat impeachment by bombing Iraq. Who knows what else is possible? (Or just how long before we will F the ineffible?
re: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
Hello Allan, Please Fwd: I hope this offends no one, but I went looking for America long ago Where did it go? Who took it? I am deeply saddened The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration This has to do with a group of individuals who want nothing to do with the milk of human justice Michael
re: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
We are being subjugated through both parties by an amazingly insecure group that feels free to act at their baldest when a Bush is in the White House Fear of public whistle blowing (LOOK, THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD, ONE FARM AT A TIME!!) has caused them to invoke the legal equivalent of martial law As McKenna as fond of saying: After Tennamin (sorry for the spelling, friends), everything is different The governments of the earth have much more in common with each other than they do with the people they rule Fear of an outbreak of true democracy requires a return to fascism by those 'who have so much to lose' The true horror, of course, is that 99% of the population seem to think things are just fine and, in fact, are getting better An example of the level of control American psyches are subject to through the PR engines was very bald after the fall of the Iron Curtain Even my mom picked up on this one Before the fall, all the Russian women seen in the US media were old, stooped, wearing cloth overcoats and scarfs on their heads After Russia was 'liberated,' the women were young, vivacious, incredibly beautiful The wonders of Democracy!! -Allan Hello Allan, Please Fwd: I hope this offends no one, but I went looking for America long ago Where did it go? Who took it? I am deeply saddened The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration This has to do with a group of individuals who want nothing to do with the milk of human justice Michael
OT Re: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
Michael Moore's book Stupid White Men which is critical of Bush, his policies, and his Enron buddies is soaring to the top of all best seller lists This book, that was released on Feb 19th, was written last spring, but was nearly killed by the publisher after 9/11 because the political climate has changed Contrary to all the polls we aren't all on the GeeDubya bandwagon This is getting so much attention that the mainstream media is starting to look at it Bonnie York
re: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
Well and truly said! History bears this out We are being subjugated through both parties by an amazingly insecure group that feels free to act at their baldest when a Bush is in the White House Fear of public whistle blowing (LOOK, THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD, ONE FARM AT A TIME!!) has caused them to invoke the legal equivalent of martial law As McKenna as fond of saying: After Tennamin (sorry for the spelling, friends), everything is different The governments of the earth have much more in common with each other than they do with the people they rule Fear of an outbreak of true democracy requires a return to fascism by those 'who have so much to lose' The true horror, of course, is that 99% of the population seem to think things are just fine and, in fact, are getting better An example of the level of control American psyches are subject to through the PR engines was very bald after the fall of the Iron Curtain Even my mom picked up on this one Before the fall, all the Russian women seen in the US media were old, stooped, wearing cloth overcoats and scarfs on their heads After Russia was 'liberated,' the women were young, vivacious, incredibly beautiful The wonders of Democracy!! -Allan Hello Allan, Please Fwd: I hope this offends no one, but I went looking for America long ago Where did it go? Who took it? I am deeply saddened The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration This has to do with a group of individuals who want nothing to do with the milk of human justice Michael
RE: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
And this is the kind of blatant determination and twisted mindset this group of individuals has: On February 17, 1950, James Warburg (Federal Reserve Bank) stated before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, We shall have one world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent Chris Please Fwd: I hope this offends no one, but I went looking for America long ago Where did it go? Who took it? I am deeply saddened The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration This has to do with a group of individuals who want nothing to do with the milk of human justice Michael
Fw: [globalnews] NYC Pollution Levels Since 9/11 Astronomical
SMOKE SCREAM The levels of pollutants spewed into the air over New York City following the Sep. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center exceeded even those of burning oil wells during the Gulf War, according to a new study released Monday by scientists from the University of California at Davis. The study, which was the most thorough analysis of the dust and smoke following the attacks, found elevated levels of sulfur, silicon, titanium, vanadium, and nickel -- all in very fine particles that can contribute to a range of health problems, including emphysema. The findings bolster support for allegations by some New York legislators that U.S. EPA Administrator Christie Todd Whitman misled New Yorkers by reassuring them that the air was safe to breathe one week after the attacks. They may also help the case of some 1,300 people who plan to sue the city this week for injuries, health problems, and damages stemming from alleged negligence during the post-attack recovery and cleanup. Long Island Newsday, Associated Press, Andrew Bridges, 11 Feb 2002 http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-attacks-air-study 0212feb11.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dnation%2Dheadlines Los Angeles Times, John J. Goldman, 12 Feb 2002 http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-10957feb12.story?coll=la-news-sci ence CLIP ... Be the change you want to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
