[beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-02 Thread Greg Kelley
Got my first BBB last week, installed latest Debian. USB Hot Plug was 
completely hosed in Kernel 3.8 so I upgraded to 3.16 (latest non-rc 
version). Currently running CUPS print services (including Airprint) and 
weewx. It appears that the BBB is rebooting three or four times between 
10pm and 1am, this has happened the last two days. I discovered it because 
weewx was going into an ftp loop because the system clock time was getting 
whacked (it is time/date sensitive to process weather data). Nothing in the 
log files unusual. Powered with a 5v 2a supply. Ethernet cable attached and 
external USB Hub (has external power but not used) with printer (turned 
off) and Weather Data Logger attached (has it's own power).

Before I start experimenting with removing USB Hub, plugging in just 
Weather Data Logger, etc. thought I'd check here first.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Greg Kelley
I am booting straight from eMMC that I flashed, no uSD and no serial 
interface. I have disabled cups and weewx from starting and removed the 
external USB HUB and changed the power supply to another 5v 2a. I can tell 
it has rebooted by looking at syslog for ntpdate 'step time server' events. 
My syslog resets daily at 6am, so looking at syslog1 it rebooted 10 times 
in last 24hrs. This is not a shutdown or reboot it is a system reset. Since 
I have removed all external attachments and USB is idle, I have to assume 
it's either a board hardware issue or the 3.16 kernel as reboot times are 
random and I don't have anything in cron.hourly. In 3.16 leds have been 
renamed to heartbeat, mmc0, usr2, usr3. I have heartbeat turned off. PSTREE 
not installed and apparently not a .deb dist either.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:41:54 AM UTC-4, Michaël Vaes wrote:
>
> When the SD card is inserted it automatically boots from there. Have a 
> look if there is a file called 'eMMC-flasher.txt' in the root of your SD 
> card it will start flashing on each reboot and reboots again. 
>
> If that doesn't solve it I would suggest overwrite the following commands 
> with a bash script that logs the output of a PSTREE to a logfile.   
>  - halt 
>  - shutdown 
>  - reboot 
>
> That will allow you to see what is triggering it. 
>
> Michaël

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Greg Kelley
I have downgraded the kernel from 3.16.0-bone2 to 3.15.10-bone8 and so far 
no reboots in the last 3 hours. If I get a full 24 hr cycle without 
reboots, I'll blame it on 3.16.0 and try to re-attach ext USB HUB, weather 
data logger, printer, and enable cups and weewx and see how far I get this 
time.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Plug on both power supplies is correct size and fit nice and snug.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:46:22 AM UTC-4, PLyttle wrote:
>
>
> Maybe check your power plug. There are many plugs that fit the socket on a 
> BBB, but some do not provide a reliable connection. The one you should be 
> using is having a spring-loaded central socket - see picture
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Instead of rebooting 10 to 12 times it only rebooted 3 times in syslog, at 
6:24pm and 11:06pm and 12:03am. Still random reboots though with nothing in 
USB and sitting idle. Not so sure it's a kernel issue at this point, could 
be hardware related but willing to try another kernel to see what happens.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
I just downgraded to 3.14.17-bone8 so let's see how that works. Will watch 
syslog for 24 hrs and see if it reboots.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:28:04 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the report, please let us know how v3.15.x react's too.. 
> I'm currently chasing a few other issues with v3.16.x (acpi isn't 
> working) 
>
> btw, if you want something that's going to be a lot more 
> supported/tested down the road. 
>
> sudo apt-get update 
> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r15 
>
> We are preping for a big transition. 
> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
plug issues with that version.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:
>
> power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This issue 
> was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue disappeared 
> with the 3.8
>
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
BBB ran for 6 hours and just rebooted at 12:30pm so I now have it powered 
through the USB port with a 5v1a power supply instead of through the main 
power plug. If this reboots my last attempt will be to downgrade back to 
3.8 and if it still reboots I'll have to send it back. It's an element14 
purchased from an online vendor.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:04:52 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
> power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
> plug issues with that version.
>
> On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:
>>
>> power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This 
>> issue was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue 
>> disappeared with the 3.8
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Well it just ran for about 15 minutes and rebooted using USB power, so I'm 
going to reflash eMMC with original distro and try that then return if it 
reboots again. Will get a BBB from Adafruit although the vendor has offered 
to send another element14 replacement.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:59:41 PM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> BBB ran for 6 hours and just rebooted at 12:30pm so I now have it powered 
> through the USB port with a 5v1a power supply instead of through the main 
> power plug. If this reboots my last attempt will be to downgrade back to 
> 3.8 and if it still reboots I'll have to send it back. It's an element14 
> purchased from an online vendor.
>
> On Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:04:52 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
>> power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
>> plug issues with that version.
>>
>> On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:
>>>
>>> power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This 
>>> issue was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue 
>>> disappeared with the 3.8
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Kelley
Hi Robert, I reflashed the original distro and it ran for about a half hour 
and rebooted so I have determined it is a hardware issue, (probably a 
grounding problem according to the vendor so perhaps there is a QC issue at 
element14) so I have returned the element14 BBB to the vendor for a refund 
and ordered a CircuitCo BBB from Adafruit. Will arrive Monday so will have 
it up and running on Tuesday. I plan to upgrade the kernel to 3.14.17-bone8 
which is close to what you recommended for stability and long term support. 
I can give the 2014-09-13 image a try before kernel upgrade if you need me 
to test but it will be on a new BBB and not the 'problem child'. Thanks for 
all you hard work, makes maintaining a BBB pretty painless.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:28:58 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
> Greg, please give this image a shot. 
>
> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-09-03 
>
> It includes all the "3.8" kernel fixes since the May release came out.. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, I just looked at the kernel in this image (3.8.13-bone64) and that 
was the first image I flashed after receiving the BBB. I had USB hot plug 
issues with that kernel version so I upgraded to 3.16.0. It would not 
recognize an external USB Hub plugged in after startup, only when plugged 
in at power up and would not recognize any USB devices hot plugged into the 
Hub. Not a problem with 3.14, 3.15, 3.16 when I was testing.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:28:58 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Greg Kelley  > wrote: 
>
> Greg, please give this image a shot. 
>
> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-09-03 
>
> It includes all the "3.8" kernel fixes since the May release came out.. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I received my new BBB - a CurcuitCo version from Adafruit on 
Tuesday. On Wednesday I got it set up almost identical to the other one I 
sent back. It has 3.14.17-bone8 kernel. It rebooted/reset on Thursday at 
2:15am and the physical ethernet port was down, so I had to connect via the 
USB port to look at syslog and see what happened. There is no entry for 
reboot or shutdown so it looks like a complete reset is taking place. Logs 
show ethernet port not coming up and dhcpclient says network unreachable

I did a power down and restart and it ran fine until Friday morning and 
reset twice at 7:35am and almost immediately again at 7:50am. Both times it 
looks like during the boot sequence that network services are starting 
after ntpd as ntpd can't resolve hosts. dhcpclient can't find the network 
and retries about a half dozen times then the ethernet port finally comes 
up and it's back online. This is physically plugged into the same hub that 
my RasPi is plugged into (and has been running non-stop for over two weeks 
now, no issues with it whatsoever).

I certainly can't use this BBB as a print and weather data server with it 
behaving this way so I'll keep these running on the RasPi until I can 
figure out why this is resetting constantly. Using a 5v 2a power supply and 
I've tried two different ones with the other BBB so I don't think it's a PS 
issue, but that doesn't leave much else to blame for random resets.

Ideas and suggestions welcome.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Hi Robert, I just checked around and a Debug Cable (34M8872 FTDI 
TTL-232R-3V3) is $42 on eBay. I don't mind spending some time 
troubleshooting this but not willing to go out and invest in pieces and 
parts. I do have two Serial to USB cables to connect to some HAM Radio 
gear, but not the right header connectors.

I'll upgrade to the latest 3.14 image too.


On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
> I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have 
> another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's 
> going on.. 
>
> BTW, that "3.14.x" isn't being worked on... If you have a new "testnig" 
> image: 
>
> sudo apt-get update 
> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, apt-get couldn't find linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19, will go check on 
your site and get install-me.sh

On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:43:14 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, I just checked around and a Debug Cable (34M8872 FTDI 
> TTL-232R-3V3) is $42 on eBay. I don't mind spending some time 
> troubleshooting this but not willing to go out and invest in pieces and 
> parts. I do have two Serial to USB cables to connect to some HAM Radio 
> gear, but not the right header connectors.
>
> I'll upgrade to the latest 3.14 image too.
>
>
> On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>>
>> I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have 
>> another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's 
>> going on.. 
>>
>> BTW, that "3.14.x" isn't being worked on... If you have a new "testnig" 
>> image: 
>>
>> sudo apt-get update 
>> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 
>>
>> Regards, 
>>
>> -- 
>> Robert Nelson 
>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert,

I think part of the reason ntp and dhcpclient aren't getting network 
connections at boot is because they are set at S03 in init and wicd is set 
at S06 and is last to get going. It appears that eth0 is not coming up 
until wicd loads?

Also, the install-me.sh failed at the end with final zImage copy because it 
creates backups of everything and /boot (92Mb) runs out of space. I had to 
manually remove previous image files from /boot and /boot/uboot then run 
the script so it had room to install everything. Seems /boot partition is 
too small.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert,

I discovered the /etc/network/interfaces issue snooping around and just set 
eth0 to auto load there and my total boot time is now 7s instead of 12s 
with all the ntp and dhcpclient retries gone.

So I guess if using the install-me script, I'll have to manually remove the 
previous kernel files in /boot and /boot/uboot before running it so there's 
room. Does the .deb file install (apt-get install) also do backups? If so, 
it should fail as well. Looks like about 110Mb for /boot partition should 
be enough to hold current and backups of previous.

I'm getting a ton of these in syslog at boot:

kernel: [   xx.xx] unwind: Index not found bf0f4334

Also, I noticed that in a reboot it keeps the current time for all syslog 
boot messages, so I know it's getting a full reset randomly because the 
time in syslog is from /etc/timestamp (which I update every 15 minutes so I 
can tell when it's resetting).

On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:35:31 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Greg Kelley  > wrote: 
>
 

> Correct, wicd set's up eth0, that's how we got the 11-12 second bootup 
> time. Otherwise if eth0 is handled by /etc/network/interfaces bootup 
> could last 2 minutes for users who don't connect eth0.  I should 
> atleast really move ntp from S03 to S06.. 
>
> > Also, the install-me.sh failed at the end with final zImage copy because 
> it 
> > creates backups of everything and /boot (92Mb) runs out of space. I had 
> to 
> > manually remove previous image files from /boot and /boot/uboot then run 
> the 
> > script so it had room to install everything. Seems /boot partition is 
> too 
> > small. 
>
> Yeah it runs out of space fast. 
>
> That's one of the reasons we moved all the boot files out of the 96Mb 
> boot partition.. 
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, 

I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your 
install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot) before 
I run it.


On Friday, September 12, 2014 1:23:35 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Greg Kelley  > wrote: 
>
> With the new "apt-get install linux-image-xyz" partition setup 
>
> each "linux-image-xyz" has it's own set of: 
>
> /boot/vmlinuz-xyz 
> /boot/initrd.img-xyz 
> /boot/dtbs/xyz/*.dtb 
>
> You can switch between different kernels by updating (uname_r) in: 
>
> /boot/uEnv.txt 
>
> (all located in ext4, so it'll take a while to run out of space) 
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Makes sense, but if apt-get doesn't work it's a good fall-back for now.

I guess if I get more random resets, I'll have to spring for that serial 
debug cable @ $23 shipped from DigiKey.



On Friday, September 12, 2014 3:35:00 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Greg Kelley  > wrote: 
> > Robert, 
> > 
> > I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your 
> > install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot) 
> before I 
> > run it. 
>
> With the direction we are heading, those install-me.sh's are becoming 
> obsolete.. ;) 
>
> Regards, 
>
>
> -- 
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> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-13 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to auto 
so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning then 
did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to spring for 
that cable. 

On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley  > wrote: 
>
> BTW, that "3.14.x" isn't being worked on... If you have a new "testnig" 
> image: 
>
> sudo apt-get update 
> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-13 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
until the new boot sequence starts.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:25:57 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to 
> auto so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning 
> then did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to 
> spring for that cable. 
>
> On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley  wrote: 
>>
>> BTW, that "3.14.x" isn't being worked on... If you have a new "testnig" 
>> image: 
>>
>> sudo apt-get update 
>> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 
>>
>> Regards, 
>>
>> -- 
>> Robert Nelson 
>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
I got a third reset yesterday at 11:53pm but no resets this morning between 
7am and 8am. The only log file entry I could find that matched a reset was 
in wtmp: Sat Sep 13 07:13 - crash (-5369+-11:-  and there are a half dozen 
other 'crash' entries in the log as well.


On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
> reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
> at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
> at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
> times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
> until the new boot sequence starts.
>
> On Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:25:57 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>>
>> Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to 
>> auto so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning 
>> then did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to 
>> spring for that cable. 
>>
>> On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley  
>>> wrote: 
>>>
>>> BTW, that "3.14.x" isn't being worked on... If you have a new "testnig" 
>>> image: 
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get update 
>>> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 
>>>
>>> Regards, 
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Robert Nelson 
>>> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>>>
>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I got a third reset yesterday at 11:53pm but no resets this morning 
between 7am and 8am. The only log file entry I could find that matched a 
reset was in wtmp: Sat Sep 13 07:13 - crash (-5369+-11:-  and there are a 
half dozen other 'crash' entries in the log as well.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
> reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
> at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
> at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
> times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
> until the new boot sequence starts.
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and removed the 5v2a 
cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin 5v1a PS I have that uses the mini 
USB instead of the banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as the 
problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an APC Battery 
Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and constant.

I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my RasPi has been set 
up same way and running 24/7 since I plugged it in with zero issues.

Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll use maybe two 
days to capture data that might or might not shed light on the issue.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:
>
> Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
> reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
> at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
> at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
> times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
> until the new boot sequence starts.
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread Greg Kelley
William,

I'm not using any I/O at this time. Setting this up in steps. First was to 
get it running as a CUPS and weewx Server like my RasPi. I can 'play' with 
it later once it's stable. Found a cable on eBay for $6 shipped from CA 
using PL303HX claims 3.3v TTL.

Also, no resets since 3pm yesterday when I switched PS. Maybe there is a 
problem with the SuperPowerSupply model KZ0502000, although the other BBB 
(element14) was resetting using both PS (SPS and Garmin) and even a direct 
USB connection. It's possible that there was a problem with both the other 
BBB and the SPS power supply. If it's happy with the Garmin I'll get a 
different 5v2a supply.

I am also solar but use a hybrid Grid-Tie Outback and a Manual Transfer 
Switch so when we lose power, it's dark until I can get to the switch. 
That's why I have all my electronics (cable modem, router, Vonage, etc on a 
UPS.

On Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40:23 PM UTC-4, William Hermans wrote:
>
> william@arm:~$ uptime
>  14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05
>
> And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a time. Others 
> yet have had longer uptimes.
>
> One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen you mention 
> is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins. IF so, what.
>
>
>

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[beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread Greg Kelley
I have now been running 22 hours without a reset - this is a first. 
Yesterday at 3:17pm I changed out power supplies. I also killed wicp. So 
now I'm suspicious of wicp as the culprit. I added 'auto eth0' in 
/etc/network/interfaces since I'm hard wire connected and wicp was bringing 
up eth0 far too late in the boot sequence so that dhclient and ntp were 
both looping looking for the network (which wasn't up yet) but I still had 
wicp starting up at boot. I suppose I can shutdown and put the other power 
supply back on and see what happens with wicp removed.

On Monday, September 15, 2014 8:33:15 AM UTC-4, Thomas O wrote:
>
> Well we are seeing exactly the same problems as Greg has experienced. We 
> have 10 bbb running for a project and we are seeing on avg a crash per 24 
> hours or maybe rather a reboot.
> We have tested the 3.14. 3.15 and 3.16 kernels built via Roberts build 
> environment as well as installing the ti kernels wtih the same result.
>
> We have ruled out the powers since we are now running all the boards from 
> a profesional lab supply with measured ripple and performance way above the 
> specs for the board.
> We have had serial cables connected to the uart0 and have not seen 
> anything strange in the dmesg or the serial console. No trace of oops or 
> panic just restarts...
>
>>
>>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-16 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I changed power supplies back to the 5v2a and removed wicd 
yesterday at 3:20pm. Ran fine until 8:42am and reset after 16hrs. This 
time, it didn't bring up eth0 and was unreachable. I pulled the power and 
powered back up, booted normally. Interesting thing is that syslog only 
shows the second boot on power up and not the reset reboot. Syslog was 
fresh at 6:25am and shows only one bootup sequence. Strange. I was hoping 
resets were from wicd, guess not. Problem still exists. I could deal with a 
single reset every day, but not when eth0 fails as my weather server 
uploads ftp files to my website every 15 minutes. I lost eth0 on reset back 
on 9/11 at 8:13am, so loss of eth0 is random in the resets. I have a 
Phihong Switching Power Supply 5v2a that I'm going to put on there and see 
if that helps, but unlikely since Thomas has lab quality power and all of 
his are resetting. Here's what's left in rc2.d, I have removed S06weewx for 
now (as well as apache2 and saned).

README  S01motd S03cron S03ssh   S05cups
S01boot_scripts.sh  S01rsyslog  S03dbus S03udhcpdS06rc.local
S01capemgr.sh   S01sudo S03loadcpufreq  S04avahi-daemon 
 S06rmnologin
S01hostapd  S01xrdp S03ntp  S04cpufrequtils
S01leds-off S03acpidS03rsyncS05bootlogs




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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-16 Thread Greg Kelley
One other note, current Debian distro that comes with BBB has ntpdate 
installed. I have removed ntpdate and installed ntp in it's place.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-16 Thread Greg Kelley
I just changed over to the Switching Power Supply and eth0 failed to come 
up on boot. I hit the reset button and a reboot brought it up. So now it 
seems there are eth0 issues as well as resets. Going from bad to worse.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-17 Thread Greg Kelley
I had a total of 5 resets yesterday one at 8am, 5pm, 9pm, 10pm, 11pm using 
a switching power supply. Maybe I should go back to the cheapo power supply 
as I was only resetting once or twice a day with that one. I'll wait and 
see what Thomas comes up with before ordering the serial debug cable. Only 
thing I have changed in the last two days has been the power supply, all 
else is static (kernel, running daemons, attached hub). I'm going to unplug 
the USB HUB now and see what that does.

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:50:06 AM UTC-4, Thomas O wrote:
>
> Well new and interesting discoveries on this problem. 
>
> Last night we set up 9 bbw as well as the blacks for control. during the 
> night all of the bbb has crashed at least once and none of the bbw. All 
> running the same kernel and software. 3.15.2-bone5.
>
> This means that this is hw related on the bbb board. i am starting to 
> suspect the PMIC that some interference somehow triggers a sys_reset. we 
> are trying to connect a data logger to some pins on the bbb to see if 
> sys_reset goes low prior to reboot but i strongly suspects it does.. 
>
> --Skjortan!
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-10-13 Thread Greg Kelley
Mine is still resetting one to three times a day. I have moved both 
processes I was running on it (CUPS and weewx) over to my RasPi so it is 
just sitting idle except for CRON jobs. No events in serial debug logs, 
just a sudden reset and cold boot restart.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-10-24 Thread Greg Kelley
Had a minute or two to try machinekit, loaded onto uSD. Unfortunately, it's 
based on 3.8.x which doesn't support USB Hotplug so a non-starter. Also, it 
froze after about 3 hours so I just shut it down for now.

On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:41:09 PM UTC-4, jmelson wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:37:18 PM UTC-5, Greg Kelley wrote:
>>
>> Mine is still resetting one to three times a day. I have moved both 
>> processes I was running on it (CUPS and weewx) over to my RasPi so it is 
>> just sitting idle except for CRON jobs. No events in serial debug logs, 
>> just a sudden reset and cold boot restart.
>>
>> I have used several Bone Blacks in projects.  One of them ran for about 3 
> months without reboot.  Due to some other
> software I am using, I used the machinekit distribution (which is based on 
> the esteemed Robert Nelson distro, but
> has Xenomai RT extensions on the kernel.)  So, you might try out the 
> machinekit distro and see if this problem
> goes away.
>
> Jon
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Kelley
Update to Reboot Issue:

OK I did two things at once which from my old Beta Tester days is a no-no 
since you can't figure out which change made a difference. But

I updated the kernel to 3.14.23-ti-r34

Then I did an apt-get update/upgrade and I noticed that dbus got upgraded 
in the process.

Now when I hot plug a USB stick into my external 7 port hub it comes right 
up. Before, it wouldn't get recognized unless I had a 'constantly on' 
device also plugged into the hub (like a printer), so dbus upgrade 'fixed' 
something regarding that issue

The really good news is I've been up for two days with no random reboots. 
New kernel or dbus? Don't know, don't care, as long as the reboot monster 
has been banished into the deep dark pit.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
@William: you speak as if I was a newcomer to Linux. Truth is, I was one of 
the first to embrace Linux back in the 80s when I worked in Computer 
Services at the local University. I replaced several Windoze servers with 
Linux Servers and built Linux-based 'internet appliances' as we called them 
back then. I've probably forgotten more than most younger folks have 
figured out yet. So, please save your 'lecturing' for another time and 
place and let all of us here who are obviously less enlightened than 
yourself continue to figure out the reboot issue. Sharing our experiences 
(even if they are silly noob mistakes) all has merit in forming a picture 
of the issue that we as a group can evaluate and perhaps discover a 
solution. That's one of the great things about discussion forums such as 
this.

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:45:27 PM UTC-5, William Hermans wrote:
>
> @Greg Kelley
>
> Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux. This is how it used to be for 
> *ANYTHING* new to Debian, back in the day. This is why ppl such as myself 
> will often tell you research your hardware before you install debian on it. 
> Or more correctly. By hardware that has known debian support.
>
> Now days, this seems to be less of a problem, and you can very easily 
> exchange "debian" for "Linux" in general. But the general idea of 
> "researching" whatever you do, before you do it still stands. I even do 
> this with Windows in mind, and windows has far better driver support 
> compared to *ANY* OS out there. Period.
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
Yes, first Unix then Linux.

Let's split mouse turds by the halves, shall we?

On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:05:02 AM UTC-5, William Hermans wrote:
>
> Seems I hit a nerve, however I'm fairly sure that Linux has only been 
> around since 91 so . . .
>
> Maybe you mean UNIX.
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
@Wulf: I see this is your first contribution to our ongoing discussion of 
BBB random booting.

And your comment has what to do with this thread?

I am free to express my opinion of M$ products AFAIK, and many many years 
of unfortunate experiences has molded my viewpoint, but that's a topic for 
a different discussion.

Speaking of which, can we get back to the topic at hand, please?



On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:16:07 AM UTC-5, Wulf Man wrote:
>
>  You have disrupted your creditability already by referencing Windows as 
> "Windoze"
>
>
>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
I concur as I have been up and running three days now with no random 
reboots, so I consider this issue resolved.

Thanks Robert C,

Signing Off, Over and Out


On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:18:23 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:
>
>
> Out side of v3.8.x it should be fixed with: 
>
> v3.14.23-ti-r34 
> v3.18.0-rc5-bone1 
>
> Regards, 
>
> -- 
> Robert Nelson 
> http://www.rcn-ee.com/ 
>

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