Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-09-08 Thread William Hermans


 If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher: 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19 

 (200MB) 

 Then: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm 

 Regards, 

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*sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm *seems to be currently 
broken. You, or at least I have been getting circular unresolved paackages. 
Deadending at..

root@arm:~# apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 npm : Depends: node-gyp (= 0.10.9) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@arm:~# apt-get install node-gyp
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 node-gyp : Depends: nodejs-dev but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@arm:~# apt-get install nodejs-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nodejs-dev : Depends: libv8-3.14-dev (= 3.7) but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

 

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-09-02 Thread max
Robert,

So far so good!

I set a root password, created a regular user account, ran apt-get update  
upgrade.

I've installed the following packages:
avahi-daemon nodejs nodejs-legacy nom ntp git man-db

I used dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set my timezone information, configured 
git, and I should be good to go.

However, I don't see a dtc command. Should this not be included in the 
initial image? It seems pretty fundamental to using the BBB!

Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Nelson
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 6:03 AM,  m...@zepler.org wrote:
 Robert,

 So far so good!

 I set a root password, created a regular user account, ran apt-get update 
 upgrade.

 I've installed the following packages:
 avahi-daemon nodejs nodejs-legacy nom ntp git man-db

 I used dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set my timezone information, configured
 git, and I should be good to go.

 However, I don't see a dtc command. Should this not be included in the
 initial image? It seems pretty fundamental to using the BBB!

Nah, it's not essential to boot or flash the eMMC, thus it's not
installed on the console image.

sudo apt-get install device-tree-compiler

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-09-02 Thread max
Robert,

Thanks, I found the right package while waiting for my post to be 
moderated. A bit worried that I might not get the 1.4.0 version with the -@ 
switch, as the man pages don't mention it, but the built-in help does. I 
see it came from a beagleboard repository. Looks like like I'm good to go 
now.

Thanks for all your help!

Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread max

On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:56:50 UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher: 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19 
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Felinux.org%2FBeagleboard%3ABeagleBoneBlack_Debian%232014-08-19sa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGTRYzlc5QSeDGhWxXxSG-5ETE-Jg
  

 (200MB) 

 Then: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm 

 Now I'm getting really confused! I just followed the instructions on the 
'latest images' page (http://beagleboard.org/latest-images). Do these apply 
only to rev C boards? It doesn't say. I did look for more recent images, 
but I find the information on elinux.org to be terse and opaque to the 
point of impenetrability. These are testing images, so presumably not 
stable? Why am I still referred to the 2014-05-14 image if this is known 
not to work?

For my project, In addition to the standard OS  I need a node.js = 
0.10.22, plus bonescript (but used as a package, not as a server) gcc, 
libraries etc plus apache, but not cloud9, X-windows, or anything to do 
with video or sound. I have a rev C on back order, but I'd like to hope the 
rev B can be salvaged for this project.

Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:09 PM,  m...@zepler.org wrote:

 On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:56:50 UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher:

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19

 (200MB)

 Then:

 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm

 Now I'm getting really confused! I just followed the instructions on the
 'latest images' page (http://beagleboard.org/latest-images). Do these apply
 only to rev C boards? It doesn't say. I did look for more recent images, but
 I find the information on elinux.org to be terse and opaque to the point of
 impenetrability. These are testing images, so presumably not stable? Why am
 I still referred to the 2014-05-14 image if this is known not to work?

testing =/= unstable

They are just snapshots of a continuously evolving image.. At some
point, we will cut a new release based off these and then fully test
and put it on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images

 For my project, In addition to the standard OS  I need a node.js =
 0.10.22, plus bonescript (but used as a package, not as a server) gcc,
 libraries etc plus apache, but not cloud9, X-windows, or anything to do with
 video or sound. I have a rev C on back order, but I'd like to hope the rev B
 can be salvaged for this project.

Okay, follow my previous instructs and add:

npm install -g bonescript --arch=armhf

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread William Hermans
Max, you're better off either starting with the console image Robert
mentioned, or building your own from
https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-RootFileSystem%28smallflash%29

Once you get the console image going, it is a simple matter of apt-get
install packages


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:09 PM, m...@zepler.org wrote:


 On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:56:50 UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher:

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Felinux.org%2FBeagleboard%3ABeagleBoneBlack_Debian%232014-08-19sa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGTRYzlc5QSeDGhWxXxSG-5ETE-Jg

 (200MB)

 Then:

 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm

 Now I'm getting really confused! I just followed the instructions on the
 'latest images' page (http://beagleboard.org/latest-images). Do these
 apply only to rev C boards? It doesn't say. I did look for more recent
 images, but I find the information on elinux.org to be terse and opaque
 to the point of impenetrability. These are testing images, so presumably
 not stable? Why am I still referred to the 2014-05-14 image if this is
 known not to work?

 For my project, In addition to the standard OS  I need a node.js =
 0.10.22, plus bonescript (but used as a package, not as a server) gcc,
 libraries etc plus apache, but not cloud9, X-windows, or anything to do
 with video or sound. I have a rev C on back order, but I'd like to hope the
 rev B can be salvaged for this project.

 Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread max
Robert,

Does this flasher not power down the Beaglebone when it's done? It's 
sitting there with all 4 user LEDS on at the moment

Max

 If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher: 
  
  http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19 
  



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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread max
Wiiliam,

I am just this moment following the procedure Robert suggests, using the 
2014-08-19 console image. I'll dump a list of packages installed in the 
2014-05-14 'full' image installation before I re-flash it so I can compare 
what is in and what is not. I'm not in a position to build anything just 
yet - no free disc space!

Max

On Friday, 29 August 2014 19:47:48 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:

 Max, you're better off either starting with the console image Robert 
 mentioned, or building your own from 
 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-RootFileSystem%28smallflash%29

 Once you get the console image going, it is a simple matter of apt-get 
 install packages




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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread William Hermans
Even using the console image Robert and I suggested, you'll gain back a lot
more space on the eMMC.

Also note that Roberts instruction for building from scratch / source is
done on a PC and not the BBB. But is more complex, and does pretty much
require Linux on that machine. I only mention this in case you're thinking
it has to be done on the BBB.

There is also another method for making your image smaller( without
building from source ), but is complex and requires mix / matching files /
directories from multiple sources. I'm still investigating this myself, so
could not get into too much detail. Except that /var/modules is not fully
populated in *debian-7.5-bare-armhf-2014-07-07.tar.xz. *So if you need
specific modules . . .This could prove to be a minor pain in the butt at
minimum. Systemd also lives in this directory.


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM, m...@zepler.org wrote:

 Wiiliam,

 I am just this moment following the procedure Robert suggests, using the
 2014-08-19 console image. I'll dump a list of packages installed in the
 2014-05-14 'full' image installation before I re-flash it so I can compare
 what is in and what is not. I'm not in a position to build anything just
 yet - no free disc space!

 Max


 On Friday, 29 August 2014 19:47:48 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:

 Max, you're better off either starting with the console image Robert
 mentioned, or building your own from https://eewiki.net/display/
 linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-
 RootFileSystem%28smallflash%29

 Once you get the console image going, it is a simple matter of apt-get
 install packages


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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread William Hermans
Err, rather Systemd lives in /lib/


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even using the console image Robert and I suggested, you'll gain back a
 lot more space on the eMMC.

 Also note that Roberts instruction for building from scratch / source is
 done on a PC and not the BBB. But is more complex, and does pretty much
 require Linux on that machine. I only mention this in case you're thinking
 it has to be done on the BBB.

 There is also another method for making your image smaller( without
 building from source ), but is complex and requires mix / matching files /
 directories from multiple sources. I'm still investigating this myself, so
 could not get into too much detail. Except that /var/modules is not fully
 populated in *debian-7.5-bare-armhf-2014-07-07.tar.xz. *So if you need
 specific modules . . .This could prove to be a minor pain in the butt at
 minimum. Systemd also lives in this directory.


 On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM, m...@zepler.org wrote:

 Wiiliam,

 I am just this moment following the procedure Robert suggests, using the
 2014-08-19 console image. I'll dump a list of packages installed in the
 2014-05-14 'full' image installation before I re-flash it so I can compare
 what is in and what is not. I'm not in a position to build anything just
 yet - no free disc space!

 Max


 On Friday, 29 August 2014 19:47:48 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:

 Max, you're better off either starting with the console image Robert
 mentioned, or building your own from https://eewiki.net/display/
 linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-
 RootFileSystem%28smallflash%29

 Once you get the console image going, it is a simple matter of apt-get
 install packages


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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-29 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:16 PM,  m...@zepler.org wrote:
 Robert,

 Does this flasher not power down the Beaglebone when it's done? It's sitting
 there with all 4 user LEDS on at the moment

The eMMC is in a safe state at that  point. The pmic doesn't seem to
always listen to use too shutdown.

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[beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread heidinullzwei
Hello,

how can I remove the files from Cloud9 completely from my BBB. 

I have installed Debian on my BBB A6A 2GB and running out of space. I've 
already disabled Cloud9 and Bonescript with systemctl. Of course the files 
are still there. 

dpkg - l *cloud9* or apt-get remove cloud9 dosen't work.

The files are in the /opt/ folder. Can I remove them directly from there? 

Thanks!
Juergen

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread William Hermans
root@beaglebone:~# du -h /opt/cloud9/
...
58M /opt/cloud9/

root@beaglebone:~# du -h /var/lib/cloud9/
...
53M /var/lib/cloud9/

So this is a guess on my behalf but I'm betting a good bet. /opt/ is where
the git was pulled to, and /var/lib is where it is run from. Opening cloud9
in the browser, and looking at the command prompt seems to confirm this.

So, if dpkg, and APT both have no clue about this, and you've disabled the
service. I personally see no harm in using rm. I even ran whereis cloud9
and nothing . . .

What all are you running that requires 1.7G space on the eMMC ?



On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, heidinullz...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 how can I remove the files from Cloud9 completely from my BBB.

 I have installed Debian on my BBB A6A 2GB and running out of space. I've
 already disabled Cloud9 and Bonescript with systemctl. Of course the files
 are still there.

 dpkg - l *cloud9* or apt-get remove cloud9 dosen't work.

 The files are in the /opt/ folder. Can I remove them directly from there?

 Thanks!
 Juergen

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread John Syn

From:  heidinullz...@googlemail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, August 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

 Hello,
 
 how can I remove the files from Cloud9 completely from my BBB.
 
 I have installed Debian on my BBB A6A 2GB and running out of space. I've
 already disabled Cloud9 and Bonescript with systemctl. Of course the files are
 still there. 
 
 dpkg - l *cloud9* or apt-get remove cloud9 dosen't work.
This only lists packages matching *cloud9* pattern. If you want to find
which files were installed, use
dpkg -L package name found previously

Also, you can use 

sudo apt-get purge package name found previously

Which is the same as remove, but also deletes the config files.

Regards,
John
 
 The files are in the /opt/ folder. Can I remove them directly from there?
 
 Thanks!
 Juergen
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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread John Syn

From:  heidinullz...@googlemail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, August 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

 Hello,
 
 how can I remove the files from Cloud9 completely from my BBB.
 
 I have installed Debian on my BBB A6A 2GB and running out of space. I've
 already disabled Cloud9 and Bonescript with systemctl. Of course the files are
 still there. 
 
 dpkg - l *cloud9* or apt-get remove cloud9 dosen't work.
 
 The files are in the /opt/ folder. Can I remove them directly from there?
man dpkg or dpkg ‹help will give you all the info you need.

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks!
 Juergen
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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread max


On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:01:17 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:


 What all are you running that requires 1.7G space on the eMMC ?


 Erm... Debian?

I found the free space left on rootfs after an eMMC flash from 
BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img; apt-get update;  apt-get 
upgrade; apt-get clean was 132628 blocks, 92% free. Trying to install the 
application (node-RED) I want to run and its dependencies failed with ENOSPC

Deleting the tmp files from the failed npm installs leaves me 30256 blocks 
free. Unusable. The node.js version on the Angstrom image is too old to 
support all the packages I want to use.

Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread William Hermans
Max, the reason why I ask is that I am running Debian too, and have a
rootfs that is 191M ( Megabytes ) in size. This includes a few standard
debian tools such as openssh-server, and then Nodejs + express + socket.io.
With a basic Nodejs server example app I'm working on.




On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:40 PM, m...@zepler.org wrote:



 On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:01:17 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:


 What all are you running that requires 1.7G space on the eMMC ?


 Erm... Debian?

 I found the free space left on rootfs after an eMMC flash from
 BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img; apt-get update;  apt-get
 upgrade; apt-get clean was 132628 blocks, 92% free. Trying to install the
 application (node-RED) I want to run and its dependencies failed with ENOSPC

 Deleting the tmp files from the failed npm installs leaves me 30256 blocks
 free. Unusable. The node.js version on the Angstrom image is too old to
 support all the packages I want to use.

 Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM,  m...@zepler.org wrote:


 On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:01:17 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:


 What all are you running that requires 1.7G space on the eMMC ?


 Erm... Debian?

 I found the free space left on rootfs after an eMMC flash from
 BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img; apt-get update;  apt-get
 upgrade; apt-get clean was 132628 blocks, 92% free. Trying to install the
 application (node-RED) I want to run and its dependencies failed with ENOSPC

 Deleting the tmp files from the failed npm installs leaves me 30256 blocks
 free. Unusable. The node.js version on the Angstrom image is too old to
 support all the packages I want to use.

If you are really need the space, start out with the console flasher:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-08-19

(200MB)

Then:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install nodejs nodejs-legacy npm

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread William Hermans
John, there is no package. It is downloaded from git, compiled, and
installed by hand.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Max, the reason why I ask is that I am running Debian too, and have a
 rootfs that is 191M ( Megabytes ) in size. This includes a few standard
 debian tools such as openssh-server, and then Nodejs + express + socket.io.
 With a basic Nodejs server example app I'm working on.




 On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:40 PM, m...@zepler.org wrote:



 On Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:01:17 UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:


 What all are you running that requires 1.7G space on the eMMC ?


 Erm... Debian?

 I found the free space left on rootfs after an eMMC flash from
 BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img; apt-get update;  apt-get
 upgrade; apt-get clean was 132628 blocks, 92% free. Trying to install the
 application (node-RED) I want to run and its dependencies failed with ENOSPC

 Deleting the tmp files from the failed npm installs leaves me 30256
 blocks free. Unusable. The node.js version on the Angstrom image is too old
 to support all the packages I want to use.

 Max

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread Robert Nelson
 Not sure why npm is a separate package, unless this is a super old version
 of node. When you build from source npm is built and installed along with
 Nodejs( latest source ive built )

It's a debian thing.. Officially npm is now integrated into nodejs
download.. But in debian the nodejs package is built with npm disabled
and thus npm is packaged separately.

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Re: [beagleboard] How to remove Cloud9 - files from BBB

2014-08-28 Thread William Hermans
Sorry not nvm, that would be the nodejs version manager. I can not think of
the other semi popular node package manager that seemed to enjoy
downloading i386 source onto my BBB a few months back.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:15 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 For what it is worth to anyone else reading this. npm is the only package
 manage to use on ARM platform devices. As other package managers, namely
 nvm do not seem to do architecture checking / segregation.


 On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Not sure why npm is a separate package, unless this is a super old
 version
  of node. When you build from source npm is built and installed along
 with
  Nodejs( latest source ive built )

 It's a debian thing.. Officially npm is now integrated into nodejs
 download.. But in debian the nodejs package is built with npm disabled
 and thus npm is packaged separately.

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