Re: lapto vaccine
Hi, I have talked to two vets about this. They both give it but they also make sure no other vaccine is given 2-3 weeks before or after the lepto vacc. (one also gives just 1/2 of the dosage two times) For California I was told by one of the two vets, Fort Dodge Vacc. now has the main strain found in California. Also, lepto can be gotten from raccoons, rats and other animals. I have 3 pet rats, yes they are from long lines of domestic rats but they could still carry something. For us lepto is recommended due to the rural area. I have not given it yet but it's being shipped and will give it to all my dogs. Sheila At 06:24 PM 8/19/2003 -0700, MARK LISA DUVALL wrote: I had a question about the lepto vaccine...I know there was some discussion a while back but can't seen to find anything on it. I am not sure if I want to give this shot to my 13 wk. bmd girl. I have heard of bad reactions to this and also that there are new strains that the vaccine don't cover. On the other hand the lepto virus itself sounds so bad that I'm scared not to give it. I am curious to know if anyone has had any bad reactions to the vaccine. I live in Maryland and I'm not sure if it's prevalent in my area?? My vet suggests it but also said he has had a few dogs over the years who have had bad reactions to it. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Lisa Duvall Anja ( mom's big baby ) Sheila Avalos - TNG Bernese * Redding, California http://www.tngbernese.com * ICQ #255707 * Yahoo! IM tngbernese *snappy, funny, cute or clever quote goes here*
Re: Virus Warning W32.SoBig.F@MM
I just got all of below! My Nortons caught them as they were down loading. Nortons checks my outgoing e-mail. Remember to update your anti-virus programs often. Nortons usually updates their site on Wed. I scan everyday and update every week. I also have ad-aware installed to detect spyware programs. Sheila At 07:06 PM 8/19/2003 -0700, Robin Camken wrote: A new virus is making the round and it appears that a lot of people are infected. I've have been getting swamped with email infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm. I have seen one copy that has gone to Bernese list. One message was addressed from Pat Long (although I'm sure Pat didn't send it). The virus fakes the senders address. The subject of the infected mail will be - Re: Details - Re: Approved - Re: Re: My details - Re: Thank you! - Re: That movie - Re: Wicked screensaver - Re: Your application - Thank you! - Your details I know there are messages like this going out with my email address on them, but they didn't come from my computer. My system is not infected and Norton Antivirus is quarantined the infected attachments. For more detail and removal instructions on this worm see http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheila Avalos - TNG Bernese * Redding, California http://www.tngbernese.com * ICQ #255707 * Yahoo! IM tngbernese *snappy, funny, cute or clever quote goes here*
Re: Prong collar - a success + a question!
Hi, I use the quick release prong collar made by herm sprenger (sp). I found over the years that putting and taking off the regular prong collars made them weak (and me too!) and over time they loosen up and will come off the dog if he/she turns just right. With the quick release collar it's so much easier for me to put the collar on and take it off (and it's much quicker). My big boy sits nicely while I put it on, all the time wagging his tail and a sparkle in his eyes! I can't to the soft training with him or use treats. He gets out of control if I use food! I use a firm but fair approach to training. I am working one on one with a pro from Europe who trained in England and in Germany and now teaches in US. His methods are of the horse whisperer style. Very different from what I have learned from obedience classes, clicker training etc. I am finding out that my big boy is respecting me more as alpha when as before he was getting out of control with food motivated training (even clicker training). Every dog is different and not all will learn at the same rate or have the same learning style. Sheila PSyes using the prong I have found some fur to come off, but that is when he was blowing coat, same as for my Akitas. I have had muzzle marks on my Akitas when I used the head collar. And they hated the way it ended up over one eye. I have the newer one now and my dogs still hate them. At 02:31 PM 8/1/2003 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, After reading the posts from Vilma, Karen, etc., I decided to check into getting a prong collar for my 16 mo. old boy. He walks nicely and resonds well to a buckle collar when I walk him (his mama), but he'll pull when walked by others. I have tried the Gentle Leader and, although it helps, he spend most of the time rubbing his nose on the grass or tunneling in between legs trying to get it off. What a lovely sight this is! After reading the posts about prong collar success, I made a purchase. I purchased the conventional one - the one that you directly clip on and off versus the slip type. Sheila Avalos - TNG Bernese * Redding, California http://www.tngbernese.com * ICQ #255707 * Yahoo! IM tngbernese *snappy, funny, cute or clever quote goes here*
Re: post neuting anxiety
Hi, When I had my male Akita neutered at 5 months of age (8 years ago, he is now over the Bridge) he limped for a few days and moaned. The reason for him being that way my vet at that time said he had to hunt for the 2nd testicle, which was found near where the leg joins the body. Only one descended, that was the reason we had him neutered and ended his show career before it ever started. Oh he also had two incisions, no external sutures (used body glue) and didn't have to wear an E-collar. Sheila At 07:09 AM 8/1/2003 -0700, kathleen mcguire wrote: Franklin was neutered yesterday and all went well. The problem is he seems so down. Not his silly self. Doesn't want to stand or walk. He gets up to move and crouches back down. With the Buster collar on he just sits there, perfectly still. I finally had to take it off so he could drink some water and eat. I put him on a leash in the house so I can keep a close eye on him not to lick the stitches (so far so good). But he seems so depressed and freaked out by the whole thing. Any ideas how to make him feel better. Sheila Avalos - TNG Bernese * Redding, California http://www.tngbernese.com * ICQ #255707 * Yahoo! IM tngbernese *snappy, funny, cute or clever quote goes here*
Re: Hot spots?
Hi, I have had to deal with one hot spot. And what cleared it up without shaving the area is Listerine mouth wash (not the mint). I mixed with water at about 40/60 for the first day and then 50/50. i sprayed it on about 3 to 4 times a day. The weeping stopped the 2nd day. It healed fast and so far has not returned (I think it was from my dogs nylon collar he was wearing and it had gotten wet several times. Sheila At 11:43 PM 7/25/2003 -0400, Melissa Leaist wrote: Hi all, Not surprisingly after spending her day damp while getting treated for heat stroke last week, our Jude has the very earliest stages of a hot spot forming on her left hip. We've not experienced one with her, but we hear from the breeder she lived with for the first year and a half that she does have a proneness for them. So far it's smaller than a dime, not too terribly oozy and it doesn't seem to be bothering. I'm hoping to help avoid a big nasty mess. Sounds like a silly thing to worry about after having been so ill last week, but I'd really like to avoid having her go through the discomfort and irritation of a nasty hot spot if I can this week. Any tips for me folks? So far I've just been keeping an eye on it and trying to keep loose fur and dandruff off as well as cleaning it a couple times a with hydrogen peroxide (the kind you get pre-dilluted for wound care) to try to avoid infection and perhaps help dry it up. We have quite a few remedies at our disposal at home that we could use if they sounded like they may be of benefit (tea tree oil, witch hazel, aloe). We're off to a Berner Fun Day tomorrow. The Ontario (Canada) group has one every year apparently and the breeder we found our Jude at suggested it to us as a great place to meet other Berners and their families. We're still newbies to the breed so it sounds like fun to me! I'm sure we'll all have fun. Take care, Melissa Sheila Avalos - TNG Bernese * Redding, California http://www.tngbernese.com * ICQ #255707 * Yahoo! IM tngbernese *snappy, funny, cute or clever quote goes here*
re:raised diners
I have read quite a bit on the raised diners, also. My understanding was the study was based on dogs with an inclination to bloating [family history, etc] or had already bloated. So perhaps the conclusions were somewhat skewed.who knows for sure. We feed on raised diners.so far so good. Plus I notice less stress on joints. Our dogs practically had to do the splits to get down low enough to eat out of a regular bowl. Bacchus used to just give up and lay down to eat. I guess it is a decision [like BARFing] that we each have to come to based on our own research. Cathi with Bacchus and Ari
berner sighting and Mary Townsend
Hi all First the info on Mary. There WAS an obit in the Canton Repository on Wed Mar 12 for a Mary K Townsend..I knew it wasn't our Mary when I read that this Mary operated Dunks Diner and Catering Service as well as Dunks Furniture in Astabulaalso that she was proceeded in death by her husband Thomas. Walt is Mary's husband. Just so you know...the Canton Repository is the big newspaper in the Canton/Massillon area here in Ohio. On to the berner sighting. In Walgreens I bought the last 2 berner cards they hada black and white of 2 darling berners, blank inside, put out by Hallmark under their impromptu line. And, of course I HAD to tell the check out lady we have dogs like this and show the her some pics of Bacchus and Ari. Cathi
Re: tricks
Sorry, had to respond again. We taught Bacchus little woofs. He will give a little allmost soundless woof. Originally taaught himm by putting my hands over my ears and saying oh my.that is WAY too loud. Try a little woof. LOL Love them berners Cathican you tell I have insomnia tonight?
Re: unique tricks
Our girl Ari is what you might call a one trick pony. She loves to lay on the bed with us watching TV, and once we said okay...off now girl. Well she put her paw over her eye.thinking we wouldn't notice the other 85 lbs of her. It was just so adorablenow we say put your paw over your eye and she does. Our one trick pony, Ari Cathi
Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF
Can you all tell I've had a bit of insomnia tonight? Been up since 2:15 EST. I just wanted to comment on the recent events re:Stevie and Karen. First I love Stevie Nicks so you already had me right there. But, Karen I have been following all your posts on Stevie. I am so happy he is making such progress. But the recent post about BEHAF and Stevie possibly being a Special Friend just blew me away. First I was so happy that people had suggested that Stevie be made a SF of BEHAF. That's exactly why the SF catagory was started. But to then hear that someone offered to pay all your medical bills, Karenwell I was just floored. Seriously I lost it. To that most generous person, there is a special place in Berner Heaven waiting for you. Now I promise I will try not to send 3 e-mails on the same day again, Pat. Much love to Karen, Stevie and the wonderful benefactor. And please remember BEHAF, and the Special Friends catagory. It is in existence for those not so fortunate as Karenthey either don't qualify or are reluctant to accept funding.but have captured the sympathies of the berner community, that is what the SF's category is for. All funds go directly to the designated SF [any amount over the needed funds go into the BEHAF general fund] . Much love to that special person who took care of Stevies medical bills. And all my best too Karen and Stevie. Cathi with Bacchus and Ari visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com see memorials, favorite dog poems and send digital berner postcards!
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BERNER-L Digest 4245 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Otis has his new home by Doug Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: how to transport a large, injured dog - ? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) A funny story by Martha Hoverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Airlines by Judith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Stevie's Homecoming! by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) The Joye of it! by Bruce and Marilyn Lister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Daisy's Tips: A Plea by Maria Crifasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) slings and stretchers by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: BERNER-L digest 4244 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Steve Fuller by Cheryl Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) FW: Stevie's Homecoming! by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: BERNER-L digest 4244 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: how to transport a large, injured dog - ? by Marion Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) A IE 6.0 patch by BMDwags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) barking mad by Emma Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: how to transport a large, injured dog - ? by Molly Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) W32.Klez.E removal tools by luvalot [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Fw: Bernese small dogs by Ray Pat Burgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: Endotoxins- death by Hugh Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Miss Kitty (long) by Wendi Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Shy Berners ?? by Vicky Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: berners small dogs by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re - How to transport a large,injured dog - ? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Stevie's progress by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Welcome Home Stevie! by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Valentine Heart!! by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) 3V Caps by Judy Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: berners small dogs by Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) Berner Small Dogs by Don Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) How to avoid getting a New Virus and clogging up the Berner-L by Carl \Skip\ Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Shy Berner? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- I am glad to say that the Berner Newf mix Otis that I wrote about last week has gone to his new home. He was picked up Sunday morning by his new family where he will be living with a very nice couple and their female Berner. I was very impressed with the number of people who contacted me expressing interest in adopting or passing info along to others not on these lists. To all who offered I send a very big thank you. The offers of help of all kinds with Otis being a mix showed how dedicated you people are to the dogs. It reinforced my belief that dog people are the best. Proud to be member of the Berner and Newf communities. Doug Smith Enfield, NH Old Berner Referral List ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 01/26/2003 4:14:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only thing I could think to do is take off my coat and roll the dog onto it, so I could try to drag him like that, w/out harming him. Does any one else have any suggestions/plans on what you would do w/ a large dog in such an emergency situtation? My husband once had to carry our 100 pound golden retriever in his backpack for 12 miles in rough country with no trail - including fording a river - in temperatures of over 90 degrees. He said it was the hardest thing he has ever done. Our golden was injured on a backpacking trip and couldn't walk out. I doubt I could have carried him myself, so I figure that's what husbands are for. I don't know what we would have done without the large overnight backpack - we put the dog in the pack and then it took three of us to lift the pack on to my husband's back. ( I carried all the stuff that had been in my husband's pack added to my pack, so I was suffering, too...) I have begged Max and Winter to not injure themselves on any of our mountain trips - so far, so good... Ruth Nielsen, ZenMaster Max and the Winter-boy - Seattle, WA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Since Molly is still under post-surgical activity restrictions, she has been limited to leash walks. My dear husband, who is doing most of the dog-walking, reported the other day that it is sometimes hard to keep her walking along since she likes to sniff the--ahem--interesting-colored snow. Don says she is reading her pee-mail! :-) Martha Hoverson and Molly (I'm sure Homer left a message for me somewhere, Dad.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, Maine _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Oh great.. http
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BERNER-L Digest 4246 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: The Joye of it! by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Stevie's Homecoming! by Sara Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re Stevie's Homecoming by Gael Goldsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Berner L Cookies? by lisa stucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) another winner... by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: Berner L Cookies? by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Stevie's Progress by James and Karen Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Digby, 1993-2002 by P. Buickerood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Slings, Stretchers, Costco Berners by Lisa D Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Hugo's still down by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Miss Kitty by Ugo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Hi Marilyn, Congratulations on winning Lynne Weber's first aid kit. Now that you have, may you NEVER need to use it!!! That is just amazing to raise over $8000! * I agree!! You Berner Folks just amaze me everytime we do a fundraiser. THANK YOU ALL Joye Neff (Samantha and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Teeiffic News!!! You and Stevie have been touched by an angel. You are blessed. I am so happy for you both. Sara Steele - Original Message - From: Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Berner List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Stevie's Homecoming! Dear List, This post will probably be the shortest one yet. In about 4-5 hours time I should be driving up to my back door with the best gift in the whole world, My Stevie!! If his blood work comes back with in normal limits, and he gets the neurological ok they feel that it is best if he comes home to recuperate. He will need much TLC when he gets here, he is not eating very well at all, just soft things right now, but they feel that it could be an environment issue, plus the fact that just about everything tires him out. I will spoon feed him if I have to! If anyone has any suggestions in this regard I would appreciate the info. His balance and gait are still way off, but he has lost so much strength. I have constructed a big sling (like a firewood gathering sling) to be able to better assist him to move around and guide him. It is with great joy, and my heart is so very full, and the tears are now flowing very freely as I write to think that my big boy will very soon be here. Thanks again to all who have been so involved with our lives. I could never have done this without you. Just FYI, I now have over 440 messages in my email!! I will eventually read every last one, I promise. I will post again later on when I have my sleeping giant . Love to you All. Karen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Karen, That is the best news!! I'm sure once he gets home he will improve in leaps and bounds (literally hopefully)! As far as food is concerned, try strong smelling soft foods such as sardines and BBQ chicken stripped from the bone. If you feed these slightly warmed, it increases the appeal. If there are any fruits or vegetables he likes, feed those too as he will need carbohydrate for energy (and the roughage). Mix very ripe soft fruits with warmed custard as an extra treat, or just custard with added glucose if he is not a big fruit eater. Give him a big hug from his buddies Down Under. Gael, Ellie and Tara Gael Robert Goldsack Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Berner L cookies?...what are they? - Original Message - From: Emma Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: barking mad Hi there, Tatty is now seven months, and waiting for a date to be spayed. She discovered her bark before the holidays, but it is obviously sounding more and more beautiful to her ears she will bark for about 5 to 10 minutes non stop then stop for the 10-20 minutes, then start again. I know dogs bark, but it drives me insane, plus when we are in town it drives the neighbors insane. ignoring her does not seem to work, nor does going to check whatever she is barking at (the door, the wall, the phone cord - basically anything). She was trained to bark once or twice to go outside to potty, but now we have no idea when that is! At home its okay, but in town when I am working I can't take her out every time she barks. She is crated when alone, and has no accidents then or when we are home. What can we do. hel. We have clickers if we can use those, she
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Dear Joye,
The winners list ended at #54, and I wonder if you would be so kind as to
re-post the rest of it? {Message truncated due to exceeding permissible
length, or something like that.} This, of course, has nothing to do with
the fact that I haven't won anything so far...
And how sweet is it that Karen and Stevie won some things?
Thanks,
Martha Hoverson and Molly
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I'm sorry that I forgot to check to see if the whole post of winners came
through late last night. The drawing took almost four hours to do and it
was 1 a.m. when I finished. I had meant to check to see if the whole post
came through since the list of winners was so long, but obviously I didn't
do that.So...without further delay, here are the rest of the LUCKY
WINNERS of the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser!!!
#55 - Adorable Paw Print Pillow Blanket set donated by Maria Silva and
WON BY Peggy Ford-Smith
#56 - Pattern to build your own CART for your Berner (Two patterns were
donated so TWO tickets were drawn)donated by Ingrid Miller and WON BY
Denise Taylor and Elke Adair
#57 - $50 Gift Certificate to By Jove donated by Michaela Simmons-Lackner
and WON BY Larry and Barbara Gerson
#58 - 2 Refrigerator Magnets (Berner Frame) PLUS a USA Bumper Sticker
sporting a patriotic Bernese
donated by Cherie Massaro and WON BY Cathie Shipe
#59 - Adorable Bernese Mailbox donated by Penny Gary Turner and WON BY
Corie Gochicoa
#60 - Fun Unique Bernese Playset (Two of these were donated so TWO
tickets were drawn) donated by
Sue Burnham and WON BY Linda Wilbur and Mary-Ann Bowman
#61- Another Fun Doggie Playset with Bernese 13 adorable, beautifully
detailed dogs, toys, food bowls, brushes beds?even a pooper-scooper
donated by Vicky Whitney and WON BY Elke Adair
#62 - Commissioned by Nell John Ward, One-of-a-Kind Glazed Ceramic Set of
Berner Figurines titled Play Ball donated by Nell John Ward and WON BY
Julia Richert
#63 - CUTE! Large Stuffed Berner with Berner Pup donated by Linda Seaver
and WON BY Eiko Nakamuro
#64 - CUSTOM Notecards Memo sheets in two sizes and sheet of address
labels featuring the winners' Berners (Two sets were donated so TWO tickets
were drawn) donated by Carol Ganz Elke Adair and WON BY Denise Bohart
Brown and Gwen Geis
#65 - CUSTOM Notecards Memo sheets in two sizes with personalized address
labels (Two sets were donated so TWO tickets were drawn) donated by Carol
Ganz Elke Adair and WON BY Mary Shaver and Larua Lopez-Mendez
#66 - Personalized 2003 Berner Calendar, using the winners photos for this
special calendar donated by Liz Bradbury and WON BY Zoe Nabarrete
#67 - 2003 Specialty Version Berner Calendars, featuring photos from the
2002 Specialty! (Five Calendars were donated so FIVE tickets were drawn)
donated by Liz Bradbury and WON BY Suzanne Hostetter, Cathie Shipe, Betsy
Brainard, Sally Phillips and Karen McFarlane
#68 - Unique hand-made original design canine greeting cards donated by
Marjorie Walter and WON BY Zoe Nabarette
#69 - Lone Star BMDC Signature calendar (Three calendars were donated so
three tickets were drawn) donated by Pat Tackett and WON BY Teresa
Dominguez, Karen Pickel and Liz Caldwell
#70 - Competitive obedience set: Playtraining book, AKC obed regs, obed
records book and treats donated by Mie Kingsley and WON BY Caroline Auth
#71- Farmer's Garden book and a magnet berner pad donated by Arden Johnson
and WON BY Barb Wagner
#72 - Beautiful Berner Charm Bracelet donated by Courtney Erickson and WON
BY Veronica Aldstadt
#73 - Metal Berner head study key chains (Two of these were donated so TWO
tickets were drawn) donated by Linda Seaver and WON BY Maxine Toyzer and
Zoe Nabarrete
#74 - CUTE Costco Stuffed Berner donated by Mary Shaver and WON BY Kaethy
Kennedy
#75 - Soft warm Blue Vest with Berners on the front donated by Pat
Tackett and WON BY Betsy Rich
#76 Unique Glass Canister with Berners on it donated by Cindy Valentine and
WON BY Maxine Toyzer
#77 - BMDCA 1992 Specialty Mug donated by Cindy Valentine and WON BY Mary
Shaver
#78 - Beautiful Matted Framed Numbered Berner Print by Beth Hickman
(Print is #66/200) donated by Cindy Valentine and WON BY Abby Patrizio
#79 - Spectacular Painting of a Berner Puppy done by the VERY talented
Willem Wijnberg painted and donated by Willem Wijnberg and WON BY Vicky
Fallin
#80 - Pretty Pillow with JOY written on it with 3 Berners donated by
Michaela Simmons-Lackner and WON BY Peggy Ford
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--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi everyone! Nola is 13 months old now, and some of her favorite playmates are Chihuahuas! She seems to know to be gentle with them, and in fact, the Chihuahua has actually made her yelp instead of the other way around. Nola also got along great with a new kitten when brought into the house. Of course, both the kitten and her favorite Chi are very tough, and have no fear of Nola, and definitely hold their own against her. We can't believe it sometimes, my husband and I watching her bounce around with a Chi, it's like if we played with someone the size of our living room! Take care, all! Mary, Jim and the girls - Original Message - From: P J Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: Re: berners small dogs Hi, This is kind of a follow up to Deb's question re' adding another dog to the family. I would like to hear of others experiences in adding another mature small dog to a single berner family. In particular dogs that are considered small (30lbs or less). My spayed female berner is 18mths old and acts like the average berner.I think. Loves meeting people, likes other dogs but seems a bit shy at first with them. I don't know if her reaction to other dogs would be different on her home turf vs when we are on walks? I don't know if she would act possessive over her stuff with another dog around or not. She hasn't been with us. She does have high prey drive for anythings that squeeks, small critters (chipmunks,squirrels) or anything small that flaps, flutters or rustles about. Many a wind blown leaf has been pounced apon! I've read/heard somewhere that some large dogs look apon small dogs as prey sometimes? Hopefully that is not the case with bernese. She is pretty laid back now most of the time. When there is something to be excited about or someone wants to play with her tho', she will spring into a rambunctious, bouncing, stampeding blur of big berner paws. I do wonder if smaller dogs would be safe (know enough to get out of the way) or get trampled by those big berner paws? My hubby keeps saying she would just hold down a small dog with those big paws and pluck it.. just like she does with her plush toys. Hmm. Anyways any comments on this topic would be appreciated. thanks, Joan and Sophia (who eats everything) Ontario ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Karen, PLEASE keep posting about Stevie's progress. For the last 3 days I have been signing on to the list specifically to find out how Stevie is doing. Something in your story really touched my heart, perhaps it was the fact that I lost my boy very suddenly a few months ago. I have sent prayers and healing energy to Stevie, so I darn well want to know how he's doing :))) I am so delighted to hear your great news - does my ole heart good! Hang in there, we're all rooting for you and Stevie. Darlene McCuaig-Balkwill near Ottawa, Canada ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi, All. I found that sometimes looking for the simple reason for itchy ears can offer an answer,...well, it did for us, at least:-) Both Holly (Berner girl) and Buddy (Aussie boy)at times seem to have itchy ears - head shaking, etc. Ears are cleaned routinely,and the vet has checked and said nothing was visible that might cause an itch. So back home, I took a good look and noticed that long fine hairs grow under the flaps - and when I trim them short, so they don't tickle the ear,...lo and behold, the head shaking stops! Were it so simple always, would be nice,but you never know what might be the cause of discomfort - or in Holly's case, maybe just a constant tickle,:-) Patti, in Brockville (with a crazy 6 year old Berner acting like a 6 mo old and LOVING the foot of snow that fell last night!) ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Dear Karen and Stevie, This is all such good news! (Other than the nosey press.) I am a United Church of Christ minister, and many people at my church now know about Stevie and are waiting to hear the next report. My family knows that as soon as I jump up from the computer I am coming to report about Stevie. We have been praying for Stevie and for you, and no amount of detail is too much! Much love from all of us--- Martha and Don, Edward, Peter and Lucy and especially the Molly dog Martha Hoverson and Molly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, Maine _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I can only make the suggestion of what I do when going out for a walk. It may seem like it is a pain in the butt, however it works for me. Whenever Hope and I take our walks up north (we don't normally walk around home...too much traffic and excitement) we are constantly in the woods. I have a back pack for Hope in which she
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BERNER-L Digest 4242 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Stevie by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Is shipping ok??? by sunshinedaydream [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Berner shaped Jig-saw Puzzle by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Thank you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Stevie's update by Sara Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Berner shaped Jig-saw Puzzle by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Stevie by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Neat obedience class last night by Sara Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) !!Stevie!! by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Pregnant or not?? by Bernadette [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Spam OT by harriet gehorsam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Skip Seibert by harriet gehorsam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Addition to the family by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) 3V Caps by Maria Crifasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Dear Harvey by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: 3V Caps by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Karen Stevie by Fran Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Fw: OT-Man Shot to Death While Beating Dog by Sandie Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Stevie's Miracle!! by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) RE: Stevie's Miracle!! by Matt Julia Richert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Shameless Brag--for friend's veteran! by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) RE: Test message... just delete by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) RE: Shameless Brag--for friend's veteran! by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Pregnant or not?? by Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) incontinence by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) AND THE LUCKY WINNERS ARE... by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Dear List, Stevie has made some progress. He is breathing more and more on his own, if this continues for the next 4-6 hrs. They are going to try him off the vent. They have turned down the settings considerably, and his oxygen levels have remained within the normal limits! This is very encouraging news. Please keep those prayers and good thoughts coming, THEY ARE WORKING! Will post later with any updates. Love and Thank you to All! Karen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- HI , I am interested in hearing from anyone on the idea of having a dog shipped , we found wonderful parents (that we really love the look of the dogs) have a chance ot get a pup this spring but I am worried concerned over the shipping it would be coming from belgium (Lucien Huybrechts pup) Does it cause alot of trama, how safe is it etc?? Please anyone with any advice or info let me know Thank you - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4241 BERNER-L Digest 4241 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: BERNER-L digest 4240 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: another Jessyka update by Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Chronic Ear Infection by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) RE: chewing spasm by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: adoption by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) gratitude by Wendi Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) New Berner Pup...adviceneeded! by lisa stucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Berner Love by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Dear Harvey by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: BERNER-L digest 4240 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Bernese ownership general loopiness by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) new pages by Hugh Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Stevie Update-Friday 24th by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Neat obedience class last night by Lucy Yogi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) FW: Hundreds Of Dogs Seized From Malheur County Home by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) biteing and nipping - too agressive? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: New Berner Pup...adviceneeded! by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) New Berner puppy -- basics by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Stevie's update by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Oatmeal by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: Oatmeal by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) [EMAIL PROTECTED] by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) LAST CHANCE to enter the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser... by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Feb 7th and 8th by Jim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Bits and Pieces has a new jig-saw puzzle titled Faithful Friends which is lots of dog pictures that are set into a Berner shaped puzzle. Here is the link to the page. As a puzzle lover, this is really neat. A HREF=http
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BERNER-L Digest 4241 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: BERNER-L digest 4240 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: another Jessyka update by Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) RE: Chronic Ear Infection by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) RE: chewing spasm by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: adoption by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) gratitude by Wendi Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) New Berner Pup...adviceneeded! by lisa stucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Berner Love by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Dear Harvey by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: BERNER-L digest 4240 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Bernese ownership general loopiness by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) new pages by Hugh Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Stevie Update-Friday 24th by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Neat obedience class last night by Lucy Yogi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) FW: Hundreds Of Dogs Seized From Malheur County Home by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) biteing and nipping - too agressive? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: New Berner Pup...adviceneeded! by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) New Berner puppy -- basics by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Stevie's update by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Oatmeal by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: Oatmeal by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) [EMAIL PROTECTED] by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) LAST CHANCE to enter the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser... by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Feb 7th and 8th by Jim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sue, It sounds like that little Jessyka of yours is certainly strong willed and willing to fight for everything she has! Her improvements are wonderful and I hope she continues to make progress as time goes on. Hug that little baby! Kelly Weir and Hope http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi, My advice for any owner of a dog with continuing and stubborn ear infections is to have it cultured. My Oak was plagued with yeasty ears that I treated but the problem persisted, her ears became inflammed and we did a culture. Turned out to be strep and e-coli and worst of all pseudynomous (sp) the latter has a nasty habit of becoming drug resistant and we had quite the protocol of treatment but we did beat it. She was put on Eukanuba Fish and Potato and remains on that diet. My one venture back to regular kibble had her ears inflamming so a short course of prednisone and back to FP supplemented with Pink Salmon. She was spayed and without the hormonal fluctuation she stabilised and is doing great. Food allergies are notorious for causing problems with ears. Rose Tierney ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Margreta, For some dogs intense chewing gives them an endorphine rush rather like a horse that crib bites. The buzz is what drives them. If he is in possession of his second set of teeth and going into a frenzied chew session and you are worried about him over stressing himself then just limit his access to bones etc. and up his physical activities. Puppies need to chew to relieve the discomfort of all the changes going on in their jaws, adults can get addicted to the rush rather like some humans enjoy crossing the pain barrier when running! If this is only periodic I wouldn't worry too much but be careful he doesn't overdrink when he's finished. Rose T. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 1/23/2003 5:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can you please let me know if there is a way to contact the berner rescue league? i'm interested in adopting a young dog, must not be aggressive toward cats. since my duchess died, they are all i have left. i live in haverhill mass, which is about 30 miles northeast of boston. Hi Sharon, The New England regional BMD (the BMDCNV) includes Rescue in its charter. You'll find informatiopn about the club at www.bmdcnv.org and can contact the Rescue Chair at [EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition to regional rescue, you might want to get to know breeders in the club as some occassionally place a young adult they had kept for potential breeding but decide to place instead. Club events are a good way to network so you'll
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BERNER-L Digest 4240 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Head Injury by A Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) yard salad by Emma Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: MANY WAYS TO SAY I LOVE YOU - BERNER FUNDS!! by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Another way to donate to Berner funds by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: MANY WAYS TO SAY I LOVE YOU - BERNER FUNDS!! by Dr. William B. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Chronic Ear Infection by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Fresh Factors question by Martha Hoverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) RE: Head Injury by Matt Julia Richert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Update on Stevie by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Lost Breeder by Susan Folk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: lymphosarcoma by Hugh Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) pick up truck law by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Chronic Ear Infection by Timothy Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: BERNER-L digest 4239 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Chronic Ear Infection by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: BERNER-L digest 4239 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) chewing spasm by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: guard dog? by Beth Oberle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Itchy ears by Jan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Need Berner Help In Chester, SC by Esther Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Mira Foundation by Coral and David Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Novi, Michigan Show Results by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) adoption by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Novi, Michigan Show Results by Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Need Berner Help In Chester, SC by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Happy 2nd birthday! by Patricia Tackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Update on Stevie #2 by Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) BMDCW upcoming events: Draft Test, Matches Workshop by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) Bernese Mtn. Dog newsletter by Sue D'Agostino' [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) another Jessyka update by Susan Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Dearest Karen, All of us here in Whitehorse, Yukon Canada are praying for your Stevie. We send you many hugs and tears. Please keep us updated. Leslie Joanisse Fortune and Faith (berner love coming...) - Original Message - From: Karen McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Berner List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Head Injury I am writing to ask the list for moral support, as well as advice. My beautiful one year old Berner boy, Stevie, had a dreadful accident yesterday. We were in a wooded area, it is very very cold here and extremely windy, when a large limb from a large tree crashed to the ground, striking Stevie on the head. Stevie was immediately unconscious but without any apparent external injuries. I removed my coat and rolled him onto it and attempted to drag him out to the nearest inhabited house I could find. The snow was deep and Stevie weighs 107 pounds, dead weight. I could not drag him out the full way and had to leave him and run for assistance. We managed to get him loaded onto an ATV and to a vet. Stevie remains in a coma or really a semi-conscious state at this time. He has had multiple system problems since this accident. His intra-cranial pressure shot up but has since this morning decreased somewhat. He is being monitored very closely. At one point this morning, the initial vets, suggested euthanasia, but I could just not accept that. So we persevered and transported him to a larger professional centre. At that point he was given a 50/50 chance. Which is much better odds than we had first thing this morning. He has also had some seizure activity since and one of the vets felt that he was deaf. I think otherwise. I have been an absolute shattered mess ever since. Many people do not understand the love that a person can have for their dog. Stevie, right now is my life. I have been recently separated, so very much alone and unsure of myself and he has been by my side through thick and through thin. He is my heart. And right now my heart hurts so very badly. I am hoping, purely selfishly, to be able to gain some moral strength from the list. Please, if you can, say a wee prayer for my beloved boy. I have gained some very much needed support from a beautiful new friend in Florida, who has been my saving grace, especially in the last 36 hours, and for that I am so truly grateful. I will keep you posted on any further development, but in the meantime, please pray for him. Thank you Karen McFarlane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Tatty used to eat dirt, she moved on to poop! She eats grass whenever she
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are thinking about feeding Flint River Ranch or are ready to make the switch, visit Ray's web site at: http://www.goodbernerfood.com/order.html to benefit the rescue effort and your dog. --- Pat Burgett will donate $15.00 from each of her original State Plaques ordered via her Art Studio web page: http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/pats_studio.htm They have the State Flower, Tree, Bird, Flag and a head study of the purchaser's Berner. We all know that Pat does beautiful work, and now she is helping to save auctioned Berners destined for puppy mills with her art. --- You can shop at iGive.com A percentage of every dollar paid by registered BARC shoppers comes to BARC. iGive.com gives you access to some great stores and services! When you visit, be sure to register your wish that your proceeds go to BARC, Inc. It's that simple! Here is BARC's website:http://www.barcinc.com --- BARC, Inc. is now a dogstuff.com affliate. If you enter the dogstuff site by clicking on the icon at the BARC Website at: http://www.barcinc.com/Vendors.html BARC will earn up to 5% of profits from sales of merchandise from dogstuff.com --- Any items that you purchase from Amazon.com will result in money being donated to the BMDCA Health Fund if you enter Amazon.com through Wendy Beard's Boris Books at: http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html Wendy Beard's Berner, Boris, has dedicated his free time to reading these books and has great pleasure in recommending books to you. In order to make your choice a little easier he has included comments from some of the berner-l members. Even he, as a humble dog, knows that your pockets aren't bottomless. However, should you decide that you must have some of these books for your own personal library then follow the links provided on the website and you will help Bernese Mountain Dogs far and wide, as any commission earned on the sale of these books through this web site will go to The BMDCA Health Fund. BERNER FUNDS: Someone mentioned that we need to have a list of all of the current Berner Funds accessible, and I agree that it is absolutely necessary! We have so many different funds in need of money, and all of us have a favorite emphasis. Here's the current list. The funds are listed alphabetically. Below the Berner funds are some detailed descriptions of other ways people have found to help! Contact them for details. Be sure to BOOKMARK this site: http://www.berner.org/pages/charity.htm It has all of the information in this post in case you misplace this important information that Pat Long and Hugh Hayes have compiled. = AKC/CHF BMDCA Donor Advised Fund - tax deductible donations can be sent to this fund. The CHF reviews scientific health related studies through a rigorous evaluation process. Studies it approves which might be of value to BMD's are reviewed by the BMDCA health committee. The Health Committee recommends some of these studies to the BMDCA board which ultimately decides which studies the funds in the AKC CHF BMDCA Donor Advised Fund will be used to support. Make your check payable to CHF, but on the memo line mark it for the BMDCA Donor Advised Fund. See: http://www.akcchf.org = BARC - Berner Auction Rescue Coalition - tax deductible donations can be sent to help cover the cost of rescuing Berners who are being auctioned or sold in situations where they could wind up in puppy mills. See: http://www.barcinc.com = BEHAF - Berner Emergency Health Assistance Fund - tax deductible donations can be sent to help cover unexpected emergency costs for Berner owners, or to a specific fund set up for a BEHAF Special Friend. See: http://www.behaf.com = Berner-Garde - tax deductible donations can be sent to the foundation that was established to help reduce genetic disease in the BMD. Berner-Garde maintains a database of disease incidence. See: http://www.bernergarde.org = Berner-L Brag Fund - donations can be sent to any specific fund, or payable to Pat Long (and those will be used to fund Health efforts, currently by being sent to the AKC/CHF BMDCA donor advised fund, or to any other fund of your choice). This is a voluntary donation; all brags are enjoyed on the Berner-L whether you wish to donate or not!! = BLEF - Berner-L Education Fund - send a check payable to Pat Long or to Lesley Rouillier to help finance educational efforts. Baseball cards and copies of a Poster based on the Dog World ad are available to help finance this fund, as well as some other posters for display at dog events. Contact Pat Long at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. = BMDCA Health Fund - donations can be sent to be used for funding health studies. (Donations are not tax deductible at this time.) Make your donation to the BMDCA Health Fund and send it to the BMDCA treasurer. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for information. = BMDCA Rescue Fund - donations can be sent to be used for assisting any BMDCA approved rescue
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could the person who posted about wanting to know of any who imported a Berner from Belgium please contact me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a 16 month old boy from there. Sheila www.tngbernese.com (his photos are on my website) = S. Olson-Avalos - California TNG Bernese Mt. Dogs http://www.tngbernese.com * __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Help on a partially torn cruciate ligament!
Hi Cindy Our boy Bacchus was diagnosed with a partially torn ACL when he was 4. It came on very suddenly also, one day he was just laying there and moved and yelped. When he stood up he was holding his right rear leg up. After diagnosis from the vet, we kept him on leash walks and crate rest [when we weren't home, so he wasn't tempted to charge the doors or windows to protect the home from squirrels]. For the next couple of weeks, he would move wrong [oddly enough, usually while laying down] and yelp, but was okay 80% of the time. After about a month he was finehowever we did make some permanant changes. We were starting drafting and decided against it. Between the ACL injury and dysplasia in the left front elbow, we felt it was unwise to continue and tempt fate. We had taught him to come up for kisses sometimes [he would stand on his rear legs and look me square in the eyelol]. We had to stop that too. The up part didn't seem to bother him, but the going back down to all 4's caused him pain. Bacchus is now 7 and has not needed surgery [knock on wood]. He still does his cutting horse routine out in the backyard and continues to protect us from squirrels. I would be interested in hearing from others that have dealt with a partially torn ACL.how many have had to have surgery? Cathi with Bacchus and Ari - Original Message - From: Cindy Buhner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:11 PM Subject: Help on a partially torn cruciate ligament! Major bummer. My ~1 year old Berner, Paws, has been diagnosed with a partially torn cruciate ligament on his left hind leg :
Happy 6th Birthday Ari
Just wanted to wish a very happy 6th birthday to our girl Ari. [Prima Ariadne V Alderhorst]. She is truly a love. We are so grateful to both Judy Butenas and Cindy DeGuidio for Arishe is the sweetest, most loving girl. Ari has always been the clown. Where Bacchus tries to act dignified and regal..there sits Ariher tongue lolling out the side of her mouth, one ear flipped over, her eyes full of mischief, and a big smile on her face. Happy Birthday baby Cathi with Bacchus and Ari you can see pics at http://community.webtv.net/bernerlover/LANDSLIDEBERNESE
Re: Osteochondrosis
Hi Anne I can only give you our personal experience with OCD with our girl Ari. When Ari was about 8 mnths she started limping and after X-rays it was determined that she had a joint mouse [what they call the piece of bone that has come loose]...however in Ari's case it had not yet come completely loose. Evidently when it does, the sharp edges can cause pain when they jab into the surrounding tissue. We started Shark Cartilage and the Gloucosomine/Chrondroitin.shortly after that we switched to a BARF diet. Well, X-rays a few months later showed that a protective capsule of sorts had formed around the joint mouse and kept it in place. It never had a chance to migrate. We tried to keep Ari's antics to a minimum during those weeks...good luck! She is a crazy girl, whose play bows in the back yard are so forceful that you can hear them hitshe is a silly girl. Hope some of this info helps Cathi-see our babies at: http://community.webtv.net/bernerlover/LANDSLIDEBERNESE I would appreciate hearing from others who have dealt with this condition...your experiences with the surgery, recovery, success, return to activity, or if you found rest to be a viable solution in lieu of surgery. Thanks in advance for your input... Anne (with Maddie and Titan)
OT-Labmed auction
As you probably read a bit ago, Labmed www.labmed.org has been unable to accept new applications due to lack of funds. I wrote about their plight recently and how they had been so wonderful when BEHAF was getting going...helping with tax-exempt status and such. Well for all of you that have labs...know someone who has a lab...or just care about another organization that does very, very good things [ they provide medicical assistance to rescue labs]their auction has started. It only runs through the 9th of Nov, and there are many general dog items available [beds and such]. Please take a moment to check out the auction or pass this e-mail on to those who know people with labs. As I mentioned before, their crew was so very helpful to the folks at BEHAF when we were beginning. They gave us advice and all their best wishes. If anyone can pass this message along to their lab friends who don't know about Labmed, or just check it out for some general doggie items.it would be most appreciated. They were wonderful to us. visit www.Labmed.org Thanks Cathi also visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com
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enough of an introduction! How long have you been in Berners, how many litters have you bred, what makes Bailey so special (other than the fact that she's a Berner, we all know that they're automatically special!), and how did you find the right male, what made you decide to do this particular breeding? We want to know more!! We're all a curious bunch, and maybe you can help a lot of us learn as well - that's always a fun part of the List! And you hug that Bailey for us, and give her some gentle bellyrubs! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- HI all, Just a quick note before I'm late for work. Several years ago, when Costco again had Berners, I bought them for people and shipped them out. At one time I had 22 on my guest bed! LOL Shipping is typically fairly inexpensive b/c the stuffed dogs are generally not heavy. The ladies at the Post Office got to know Chris and I pretty well! I have not been to my Costco yet, but having read these posts it is now a priority! LOL If my Costco has any Berners, I would be happy to buy and ship again. I'll let everyone know. Also, for those of you that keep an eye out for Berner stuff, it seems that if Costco is going to carry them, it's always in the fall (great Christmas gifts I assume). Cheers, Andrea Stefanac Chance CD NDD CGC TT Richmond, VA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Patti, It is not unusual for dogs with arthritis to initially appear to enjoy the cooler weather as it seems to reduce the inflammation and increase their mobility. One of my earlier dogs, Ruby, had had a TPO in her young days and as she aged she appeared to enjoy the cooler weather more but I had to guard against her lying on the cold ground or cement floor because she would then be worse later on. My late sister-in-law was severely affected with rheumatoid arthritis and had had multiple joint replacements used to tell me that the cooler weather was initially comforting but she would ache with a burning sensation more if she stayed out too long. Don't be lulled into false security, maintain her Metacam. Has Holly always listed to one side when walking or is it something recent. She may have had a mini stroke. I recall the late Judy Kelly telling me about her Golden circling to one side after such an occurance. Rose ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi Kelli, We had the same concerns as you. We do a lot of road trips in our car and of course our Bernerboy goes everywhere with us. A crate large enough to fit a Berner will not fit in a car. We did buy a seatbelt harness when he was just months old he is used to it and doesn't mind it. We like the peace of mind it gives us. We looked at the reviews on this site: http://www.speakeasy.org/~hnewman/dogbelts_detail.html and ended up getting The Survivor Big Dog Seat Belt System from C.A.R.E. (Canine Auto Resraint Equipment): http://www.canineauto.com/ When we first got it we knew we had to let him associate it with something good. Like food. . . . Food almost always works! VBG We got him used to it by putting it on him for mealtime. Soon it was no big deal. Now we get big wags when he sees us take it off the leash hook ~ he knows he gets to go bye-bye with us! Crystal Hobbes (I'm always ready to go for a road trip mom!) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: Dogs in cars Hello everyone, I have a question for all of you owners with traveling dogs. This past weekend I was in a car accident. Fortunately no one was hurt, but it did get me thinking, what if Oscar had been in the car! I have Oscar in my car pretty much everyday. I have a Explorer sport and I keep my back seats down and he just lays in the back but now I'm wondering just how safe is that? Do any of you have those seat belts for your dogs? How do they work and do your dogs
BERNER-L digest 4090
BERNER-L Digest 4090 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Yahoo! Auto Response by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Stop licking your feet by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) AKC Agility National Championships by Clark Kris Osojnicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: AKC Agility National Championships by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Stop licking your feet by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Berner-L, Dogs for Sale, a difficult question by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) gender specific BMD traits by Hildy Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: gender specific BMD traits by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) unsubscribe by BillLee_Blanche [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Charisma's Two Today by David Sandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Stuffed Berner by Terri Taylor-Mikes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Preventic Plus Collar by Robin Disler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Marine Corps Marathon Berners by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) seat belt, licking feet NY female by lydia myhree [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Dog harnesses in cars by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Phrases my dog knows by Lucy Yogi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Incredible chewing machine by Cheryl Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: berner siting - Golden, CO by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: berner siting - Golden, CO by jane heggen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: HUNTING SEASON by Susan Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) suggestion by Genyphyr Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Esther Wilson by Kim Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) malignant hystiocytosis by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Incredible chewing machine by Ruth Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Fw: Re: HUNTING SEASON by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Fw: Re: HUNTING SEASON by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Re: puppy for sale in NY by Jennifer Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: puppy for sale in NY by Judith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) Phrases my dog knows by Susan Bemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) stuffed berner at costco by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Favorite parent by Susan Bemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) Re: stuffed berner at costco by Laurie Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Esther Wilson by Kim Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] 34) Re: stuffed berner at costco by BernerFrog [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35) CERFing in MA Thanksgiving week? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 36) Re: Incredible chewing machine by Jennifer Martyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 37) Re: stuffed berner at costco by Sandie Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Thank you for your inquiry about our Bernese Mtn dogs. As we have occassional litters it is best to contact us at least once a month via email as to the status of puppies, complete an adoption questionaire (contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for an adoption questionare after reading our website) and plan to visit our farm. It is difficult to manage all contacts via the phone so email is the best. We are looking for only the best homes for our little babies, they are truly our extended family! For more information check out our website at http://www.pageweb.com/ebnet/index.html and keep in touch! Sincerely, Lisa Ebnet and the Furry Berner Crew in Ferndale, WA Original Message: X-Rocket-Spam: 192.17.3.5 X-YahooFilteredBulk: 192.17.3.5 X-Track: 13: 20 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 192.17.3.5 (HELO mail.prairienet.org) (192.17.3.5) by mta437.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 22:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25938 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 06:03:10 - Received: from listproc.prairienet.org (192.17.3.10) by monarch.prairienet.org with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 06:03:10 - Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:01:08 CST Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BERNER-L digest 4089 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.07 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Licking is normal...obsessive licking isn't. One of my dogs will lick her paw, then wash her face with it...it's her cat imitation. All of them will lick to clean their feet. But, if I see a pink tinge to otherwise white fur, dark crimson between the pads
BERNER-L digest 4088
BERNER-L Digest 4088 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Thank You by Karen Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) unsubsribe by Dee Ann Stewart-Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) unsubscribe by Dee Ann Stewart-Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Mic And Children: Step Two by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: BERNER-L digest 4087 by Patricia Galletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Phrases my dogs know by Pippa Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) re: microchips by Charles and Kay Sloate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: when dogs check out the grass on the other side of the fence by Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: fun sharing by Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: microship implantation for the berner by Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: OCD, weather pain by Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Potty Trained - We Are There!!! by Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Berner Siting by Jayne Van Cleaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) RE: Fun Sharing by Cheryl Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) OT:Puppymills --why we need to fight them by Patricia Tackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) berner siting - Golden, CO by Connie Schamaun [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Fun Sharing by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Canadian Club contact by Ruth Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Briggand is major pointed!! by Kathryn Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: berner siting - Golden, CO by Judith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Dogs in cars by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Photos from Berner Picninc by Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Famous last words! by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) male/female specific BMD traits by Hildy Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Dogs in cars by Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Berner Sighting by george hasenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Re: Dogs in cars by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) hunting season and loose dogs by Maria Crifasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) RE: berner siting - Golden, CO by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) Stuffed Berner by Terri Taylor-Mikes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Re: berner siting - Golden, CO by Judith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- In case I forgot to let the group know, I want to say thanks for all the support you have s given me when I had to put my Amy to sleep. Your emails and cao the group gave me an opportunity to write about my grief. Clover is napping in Amy's bed now. Guess she knows she is in charge or is keeping the spot warm for Amy's return Karen Alexander Clover and Hazel ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4087 BERNER-L Digest 4087 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) microchip and pups by Terry Cathy Bering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) RE: EUR AM's Kennedy by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Missing Dog by M Kingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Missing Dog by Sylvia Katvala [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: microchip and pups by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Sierra West's Working Day by Karyn Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Hope all went well by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Liz Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: microchipping by Mary Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) FW: phrases my dog knows by Marie-France St-Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4086 BERNER-L Digest 4086 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Photos by Ray Pat Burgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Hallowe'en costume by Susan Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Umbilical hernia and reaction to suture material by Susan Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: microship implantation for the berner by Liz Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) re: research helper sought VA pet lemon law by Deborah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Update:: Rescue in Illinois by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re:Normann by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Chestnut munchies by Sheila Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: phrases my dog knows by Scott Betsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Phrases my dog knows by Judith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: research helper sought VA pet lemon law by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Ad in CT paper/puppies for sale AGAIN by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: Ad in CT
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BERNER-L Digest 4087 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) microchip and pups by Terry Cathy Bering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) RE: EUR AM's Kennedy by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Missing Dog by M Kingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: Missing Dog by Sylvia Katvala [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: microchip and pups by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Sierra West's Working Day by Karyn Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Hope all went well by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Tracey Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: Hope all went well -- It went GREAT!!! by Liz Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: microchipping by Mary Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) FW: phrases my dog knows by Marie-France St-Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Ho, I believe I must have sent the last message in HTML. I would like to know the members feelings about microchipping pups. Who do they use? Is it considered worthwhile? Schering -Plow has a device, HommeAgain, that supposedly reads all other microchips. Are the devices that read them at all of the rescue shelters? Terry ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- John, Well congratulations on Kennedy's win, you give that boy a big hug and some bellyrubs from me! There is no brag fine! We have a voluntary brag fund, the money goes to Berner Health, or to any other fund that you designate. We always love to get donations, and we cheerfully accept anything from $0 to $1,000,000, so sent it on along to me! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi All - FYI Kinnelon is located in northern NJ (near Butler/Wanaque). I hope that Nodi is safely found soon. -Mie Kingsley Dr. William B. Neff wrote: --On Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:53 AM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r Janice (973-492-6981) in Kinnelon recently adopted Gloria Hene's Nodi. Yesterday, 10/26, unfortunately she snuck out the front door on her. She is still missing. Anyone in the area that can keep on eye out for her or help would be greatly appreciated. Nodi is afraid of strangers so she will not be easy to catch to catch. Anyone with sitings of Nodi, please contact Janice or Karen Desiderio on her cell phone at 201-787-5653 or at home at 908-362-6632. Unfortunately, Karen will be away as of Tues. You can contact Maureen Toye at 973-538-3513 or on her cell at 973-229-7228. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ** What state and where is the dog missing? Joye Neff ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Maureen, Hope Nodi can be found fast and unharmed. Anyone have any experience if a Animal Communicator could locate her? Sylvia Katvala Tucson, AZ ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Terry, Anything that helps increase the chance of having a lost dog returned home is worth doing. Many shelters have the scanners, and a lot of the vets as well. I suspect the AKC program, CAR, or Companion Animal Recovery (see http://www.akccar.org/), will become the standard with the weight of the AKC behind it, and they use the Home Again chip. You can read more about the CAR program, and the chips and scanners that they use at their website. There are other national registries as well. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Fall is here, so once again its time for Sierra West's annual Working Day for Working Dogs! This year will feature an AHBA Herding Test, agility workshop, draft workship and Introduction to Competitive Obedience. Working Day will take place on November 16 in Lodi, California. More information and entry forms are available at the website (under the link for the Events Calendar). This is a great way to see what activities you might like to do with your dog, and there will be plenty of experts on hand to help out, including BMDCA Herding Chair Marjie Cherry, BMDCA Obedience Chair April Rifenburg and BMDCA Draft Judge Jim Lafrom. Spectators are welcome! Hope to see you there! Karyn Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- To all: Thanks for the great words of encouragement!!! The meeting with (you'll find ironic Eileen) Beauregard went WONDERFULLY!! He's such an incredibly handsome man!! He's so sweet and loving and gentle. He's also
A plea for Labmed-please read
Dear fellow bernerlovers, I am sending out a plea to all to consider supporting Labmed www.labmed.org and here is the reason why. When we first started BEHAF in Jan of 1999, Labmed was the organization that helped us get started. They helped us with ideas for funding, helped us with tax-exempt status, and were very supportive. Everyone I spoke with there did nothing but help and offer their best wishes. Now, today,I was saddened to go to their website and see that they are currently unable to accept apps because of a lack of funding. Now they are a bit different than BEHAF, in that they offer funding for rescue labs. I beg those bernerlovers who also own Labs, or who just care about an organization that would care so much about helping another breed that wanted to start up a fund, that they would take time out of their busy days to help us. And support BEHAF 100%. You can read the note from the Labmed president if you go to the guestbook at BEHAF www.BEHAF.com . I just can't say enough positive things about them. I have never dealt with another organization that was so willing to help another breed.and give so much advice and support. Please take a moment to visit the site www.Labmed.org ,read their success stories and decide for yourselves. I am sending them a check today. They are lovely people. Thank you all for your consideration. I know we have so many berner causes that need our help, but these people helped BEHAF become an entity. As a result of their caring, BEHAF helped many berners and their families. As a result of that BEHAF was able to help BARC [when they began] because of the many things that we had learned. Most sincerely Cathi DeSantis co-founder of BEHAF visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com visti Labmed www.Labmed.org
a plea for Labmed....PS
You can read the thoughts of the president of Labmed on page 7 of the BEHAF guestbook [just so you don't have to scroll through all] It is from Jim Groenke. Also please consider forwarding this plea to anyone you know who has a Lab. Let's help them if we can. Cathi visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com visit Labmed www.Labmed.org
Berner sighting-Giant Eagle commercial
I don't know how many states have a Giant Eagle grocery store, but last night during CSI, there was a commercial for Giant Eagle featuring [for just a sec] a beautiful berner. The husband was carring in armloads of groceries and had to step over the berner laying on the porch. Anyone we know? Cathi
