Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;271161 Wrote: That file is almost empty? And no sign of the artwork debugging. Did you include all the output? Indeed I tested the file before uploading, but apparently the details were removed in the uploading process? Today I tried again from work, with ??? the same effect? Here's another try, and apologies for the misunderstanding. Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst +---+ |Filename: logfiles.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4347| +---+ -- wimvandorst - This sentence have three erors wimvandorst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Indeed I tested the file before uploading, but apparently the details were removed in the uploading process? Today I tried again from work, with ??? the same effect? I was only talking about the duck.log file. You said that's the one you created when scanning with artwork=debug - but it's only 26 lines long. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
http://duifje.clifton.nl:9000/music/15407/cover_96x96_p.png width and height: 500px, size of file: 24.84 KB (25438 bytes), and alternate text: missing Do you see error messages in server.log regarding artwork resizing or GD/libgd? Looks like your SC wasn't resizing the artwork as it should. Could you please run the following form the shell: ./scanner.pl --wipe --rescan --debug artwork=debug Then upload the scanner.log file. Thanks! Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Hi Michael, Michael Herger;270877 Wrote: Do you see error messages in server.log regarding artwork resizing or GD/libgd? Looks like your SC wasn't resizing the artwork as it should. In the squeezecenter.log, I don't notice any serious errors, but now you pointed me to the scanner.log, I do see significant errors, although I can't place them. Michael Herger;270877 Wrote: Could you please run the following form the shell: ../scanner.pl --wipe --rescan --debug artwork=debug Then upload the scanner.log file. I ran the command, and got a lot of PERL messages (errors?). So I included that error log (duck.log), the scanner.log that you asked for and the server.log (just to be sure). Unfortunately, I'm not well versed in perl, so assessing what would now exactly be wrong (either in the perl setup or in the squeezecenter setup) is difficult. Your help would be appreciated. Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst +---+ |Filename: logfiles.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4337| +---+ -- wimvandorst - This sentence have three erors wimvandorst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Could you please run the following form the shell: ../scanner.pl --wipe --rescan --debug artwork=debug Then upload the scanner.log file. I ran the command, and got a lot of PERL messages (errors?). So I included that error log (duck.log) That file is almost empty? And no sign of the artwork debugging. Did you include all the output? Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;270466 Wrote: Could you please tell me what FF version you're using, and what the image's URL is (right click to get its properties)? Firefox, version 2.0.0.11, with stamp: Code: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Code: http://duifje.clifton.nl:9000/music/15407/cover_96x96_p.png width and height: 500px, size of file: 24.84 KB (25438 bytes), and alternate text: missing The file where that picture is from is actually located on http://duifje.clifton.nl/usr3/music/Randy Newman/Songbook Vol 1/cover.jpg Thanks for taking the interest. Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst -- wimvandorst - This sentence have three erors wimvandorst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
With Gentoo-linux, gnome and Firefox, and SC7 (build 20080210), new Default webinterface, I get very odd artwork behaviour in the Now Playing field. The CD cover picture shows up way too big (imho), obscuring the titles. (See attachment 1). Note: the pictures are in a dedicated file 'cover.jpg' in the filesystem folder where the MP3 files are. With a larger picture, the effect is more drastic, especially when hovering above a title in the invisible list, popping up extra artwork (see attachment 2). Using the Fishbone webinterface, all artwork is nicely rescaled to appropriate size (see attachment 3). Do I do something wrong, or have I missed an important thing somewhere? Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst +---+ |Filename: Screenshot-SqueezeCenter3 - Mozilla Firefox-1.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4318| +---+ -- wimvandorst - This sentence have three erors wimvandorst's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
With Gentoo-linux, gnome and Firefox, and SC7 (build 20080210), new Default webinterface, I get very odd artwork behaviour in the Now Playing field. The CD cover picture shows up way too big (imho), obscuring the titles. (See attachment 1). Could you please tell me what FF version you're using, and what the image's URL is (right click to get its properties)? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default Skin request
kdf;264193 Wrote: On 30-Jan-08, at 6:23 PM, gharris999 wrote: [color=blue] I like the basic idea. I'm not so keen on the custom tags aspect, as this becomes a never ending cycle of supporting any idea that comes up (some people just can't say no). One possible idea might be to automatically loop all found tags, vorbis blocks, etc as raw blocks. Any that aren't specificlally handled by slimserver could be popped up with perhaps basic html framing so that embedded html would be allowed, and perhaps some common API for template toolkit content (so that your tags can have access to some slimserver specific variables) and leave it at that. Simple is best, and this would allow basic text where it exists, up to just about anything as long as the user is willing to put in the time creating html blocks for tags. -kdf Great idea, yet I would be careful with the TT stuff. Unfortunately that is VERY sensitive to syntax errors and you can easily kill your whole page with a missing ; or END or something and then you have to clear your template cache and restart the server.. Don't know how sensitive the new Default Skin is to that with all it's JavaScript but at least the popup would be dead. That's nasty as a developer, but if you can crash the frontend with a malformed comment in a file, hmmm... -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42898 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default Skin request
KDF: I hear you about the dangers of opening the barn door to specialized tags. (RATSASS? You guys don't support the RATSASS tag? What's wrong with you!) So a generic routine for making the content of unrecognized tags available does seem like a logical way to go. I had assumed that this tag content would somehow have to end up in the db, but there are already places in the code where SC grabs artwork on the fly...extracting it from the source, post scan...aren't there? So perhaps the scanner wouldn't need to have support for unrecognized tags, just the web UI. Pippin: Perhaps the server could just dump the tag contents out to a client-local temp file and then launch a separate instance of the browser pointed at that file. Costly (in terms of CPU cycles) and slow, but that would protect both the main instance of the UI and the server, wouldn't it? On the other hand, probably too costly on an iPhone or a 770 or N800. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42898 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] New Default Skin request
This is strictly a post 7.0 release request, of course: Andy, in svn 16949, today checked in a change to Queries.pm that causes big album and track comments to get their own pop-up page in the jive ui. I'd love to see something similar in the default web skin...perhaps something like the pop-up bigger album art that happens when the mouse is hovered over the player-panel artwork...perhaps a pop-up text area containing comments content when the mouse is hovered over some text indicator. I generally stuff my track comments with some basic minimal composer info, a URL to the composer's page at Grove Music and with as extensive a performer's roster as I can stand to document. So, even now, my comments tags are a bit unwieldy in the web ui. Being able to pop up all that data with mouse hover would be down-right sexy. Also, in the future, I'd like to see our allowable metadata tags in flac files to expand beyond just COMMENT into areas like LYRICS or LINERNOTES. I've already started tagging some of my new library additions with vorbis comments labeled LINERNOTES containing the cd booklet text in html format. Sometimes, this content is quite extensive. I've got some LINERNOTES tags now that are weighing in at more than 75k. Obviously, a scrollable, sizable pop-up window is the right way to display content like that. Anyway, before I file an enhancement request, I thought I would solicit some feed-back on this idea. Anyone have an opinion? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42898 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default Skin request
On 30-Jan-08, at 6:23 PM, gharris999 wrote: This is strictly a post 7.0 release request, of course: Andy, in svn 16949, today checked in a change to Queries.pm that causes big album and track comments to get their own pop-up page in the jive ui. It was Ben actually at 16947 (for 7.0, then andy pushed the changes into the trunk). Just for clarity :) I'd love to see something similar in the default web skin...perhaps something like the pop-up bigger album art that happens when the mouse is hovered over the player-panel artwork...perhaps a pop-up text area containing comments content when the mouse is hovered over some text indicator. I like the basic idea. I'm not so keen on the custom tags aspect, as this becomes a never ending cycle of supporting any idea that comes up (some people just can't say no). One possible idea might be to automatically loop all found tags, vorbis blocks, etc as raw blocks. Any that aren't specificlally handled by slimserver could be popped up with perhaps basic html framing so that embedded html would be allowed, and perhaps some common API for template toolkit content (so that your tags can have access to some slimserver specific variables) and leave it at that. Simple is best, and this would allow basic text where it exists, up to just about anything as long as the user is willing to put in the time creating html blocks for tags. -kdf ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Seemed fine this morning, so it must have been me ... -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Just updated via apt-get and I notice that artwork doesn't show in the player (now playing) window or in Browse Artists (at an individual Artist level) until after I've Browsed Albums. I get the symbols for Play all and '?' where there's no artwork, but just blanks where there should be some. SC is on Ubuntu, Web Browser is Firefox. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I can't reproduce it by restarting squeezecenter - so I'll see what happens when I apt-get upgrade next. Is it possible a cache gets wiped and not recreated or something? Or as scan was still running when you opened the page for the first time? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I can't reproduce it by restarting squeezecenter - so I'll see what happens when I apt-get upgrade next. Is it possible a cache gets wiped and not recreated or something? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
OK, updated to SVN 16068. No change in behavior, so perhaps this is related to my ancient svn install (pre-dates the change from slimserver to squeezecenter) and the fact that I'm using a system, non-bundled version of mysqld. SC7 Settings-Status reports: SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - TRUNK - Red Hat - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.0.199 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i386-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.45 Platform Architecture: i686-linux Hostname: slim_menuet.da Server Port Number: 9000 Total Players Recognized: 3 Cache Folder: /usr/local/slimserver_trunk/server/Cache Plugin Folders: /usr/local/slimserver_trunk/server/Slim/Plugin,/usr/local/slimserver_trunk/server/Plugins Here is what MySQL admin reports about the server's SQL Charsets: character_set_clientlatin1 character_set_connectionlatin1 character_set_database latin1 character_set_results latin1 character_set_serverlatin1 character_set_systemutf8 collation_connectionlatin1_swedish_ci collation_database latin1_swedish_ci collation_serverlatin1_swedish_ci Perhaps it's time for me to re-groove my server. Assuming that I wipe the machine clean and install Fedora 8, what's the current favored method of installing SC7 and then running from the svn code? In the past, I've installed the (pre-yum) rpm, done a svn co to download the trunk to a path similar to the rpm's installed path, and then fixed up the service start script to reference the new path. The new yum-centric rpms scatter the code around so much that I assume that it's not a good base to svn on top of. Would you say that is so? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41945 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
OK, so I edited the /etc/my.cnf file to more closely match the values in my.tt. My system variable SQL Charsets are now: character_set_clientutf8 character_set_connectionutf8 character_set_database utf8 character_set_results utf8 character_set_serverutf8 character_set_systemutf8 collation_connectionutf8_general_ci collation_database utf8_general_ci collation_serverutf8_general_ci Things seem to be behaving better. A Järvi search now returns all the expected albums. But a Jarvi search also returns all the Järvi albums. Is this expected? This behavior is fine by me. Anyway, thanks again, Michael. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41945 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
ModelCitizen;256145 Wrote: Mr Harris, will you sign up for the Various Artists bug? http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6548 Done. Thanks. I'm still having trouble turning on log-slow-queries with my MySQL on my server. I may not be able to really contribute to this bug until next week. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41945 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
If I enter Pärt into the header title search box I get 4 returns: Arvo Pärt Bang The Party The Birthday Party Here Pärt Then loads of albums with either Pärt or Part in the title. The odd thing for me is why do I get The Birthday Party and Bang The Party returned for a search on Pärt. Doesn't seem quite the same as your experience though. -- Mr Harris, will you sign up for the Various Artists bug? http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6548 I need help and Michael is very busy indeed. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 + HICAP NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41945 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
ModelCitizen;256145 Wrote: The odd thing for me is why do I get The Birthday Party and Bang The Party returned for a search on Pärt. At least part of it is a function of how MySQL works. For instance, with my installation the SQL queries Code: select * from contributors where namesearch like 'béla%'; select * from contributors where namesearch like 'bela%'; select * from contributors where namesearch like 'bëla%'; all return Béla Fleck. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41945 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin search oddity..
If I enter Järvi into the page header search edit box, the search returns No search results. But if I enter Jarvi, the search returns Albums matching Jarvi: 17 with all the albums containing Järvi in the title. I think there's still an issue in the http handler messing up non-latin characters. This might even be related to bug 5207 (though the topic is completely different). I'll take a look at this today. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Sorry to extend this thread still further, but I have a question about the formatting of the information shown in the 'Now Playing' section at the top right hand side of the new default skin under SC7 (latest nightly and all recent versions) The information given here for the track currently playing seems a bit strange. For most tracks the format seems to be (although there are no labels): Disc-Tracknum. Track (in bold font) Album (Year) Composer, Album Artist, Track Artist however, when the track being played is from a compilation album, the final line changes to Track Artist, Composer, Album Artist For example, I get 1-1. Drive My Car Rubber Soul (1965) Lennon/McCartney, The Beatles, The Beatles and 1-9. Mama Virgin's 21st Anniversary Sampler (1983) Genesis, Banks/Collins/Rutherford, Various Artists I would really prefer the final line of information to simply show the Track Artist, or at least include some labels to say what the other information is. Otherwise the information can just look silly and repetitive, eg 1-4. Ashes to Ashes Scary Monsters (1980) David Bowie, David Bowie, David Bowie In all other places the information looks fine (eg in the Track info in the left hand pane when proper labels are shown for all of the tag information). It it is relevant, I am using iTunes on Mac OSX and see the same formatting under both Safari and Firefox. Many thanks for all your work on this - overall the new skin is looking great. WhaleOil -- WhaleOil WhaleOil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5227 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
1-9. Mama Virgin's 21st Anniversary Sampler (1983) Genesis, Banks/Collins/Rutherford, Various Artists That's good looking :-). 1-4. Ashes to Ashes Scary Monsters (1980) David Bowie, David Bowie, David Bowie That's not. In all other places the information looks fine (eg in the Track info in the left hand pane when proper labels are shown for all of the tag information). The other places don't lack the screen estate. But I'll try to filter out repetitive display of names. Thanks for the feedback! Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Otherwise the information can just look silly and repetitive, eg 1-4. Ashes to Ashes Scary Monsters (1980) David Bowie, David Bowie, David Bowie This is fixed in the next nightly build (or SVN rev 15996). Michale ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
On OS X.5 (Leopard) with the latest Firefox I find that I get the Beachball of Death for a second or two after every page load. Anybody else see this? During those couple of seconds, nothing responds. Probably running some javascript code or something. Do you have Firebug installed? Or some other extension? Firebug is well known to slow down SC to a crawl :-(. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
On OS X.5 (Leopard) with the latest Firefox I find that I get the Beachball of Death for a second or two after every page load. Anybody else see this? During those couple of seconds, nothing responds. Probably running some javascript code or something. -- orangechicken orangechicken's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Using IE 7 the Settings/Advanced page looks a bit odd when sized down a bit... two lots of vertical scroll bars betwen the frames, overlaying text, erratic behaviour of menu highlighting etc. Thanks - change 15821 should fix this. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I was wondering if any suggestions for the Home menu of SC7 might be acceptable. I'm sorry if it's all been gone though before and is a done deal. Generally i think that too much functionality is being added to the home page ansd that what was once a clear, simple and user friendly page is now becoming increasingly complicated and confused. The original clarity is being compromised. An original thrust of the SC7 skin seemed to be to create a simple and intuitive user interface whilst retaining the powerful functionality and configurability of the application. This was achieved by ensuring grouping power-user configuration options in menus that the less technically adept users might not ever need to access. I'm mainly speaking about the addition of the OPML browser amd the direct editing of Favorites. Both functions are too confusing and unwieldy for the home page, the OPML browser especially. What is an OPML? I know but would anyone who uses Windows in default mode (i.e. not showing file extensions)? Add to this the fact that you can't browse for them and I have no idea what sort of path to put in to locate them makes this function of dubious value for your average user on a Windows machine. I feel that this functionality, if included, needs a fair bit more thought, especially with respect to the average expected user. Editing of Favorites, whilst a necessity in my opinion does not sit well on the home page. You can't edit any other function on the home page like this so the edit icon on the Favorite title is unexpected and very easy to miss. Again, I think this editing functionlity is best kept in Extras. I edit other stuff of a very similar nature (like AlienBBC menus) from Extras and would expect to find the Favorites editing facility in the same place. In the name of simplicity and clarity (and for the expected new users) I feel that if there was to be any editing possible directly from the home page it ought to extend only as far as drag and drop of menu items, allowing the re-ordering of items. And, although I'd personally like this I'm not dead certain that it's a good idea generally and that perhaps it might be best if all editing of items on the home page was confined to Extras (perhaps in the same way as it is possible to configure the Remote menus, but with drag and drop of course). - Two minor things: 1) Is drag and drop going to be implemented on the Remote menus? 2) I'd be happier if Favorites.opml got saved in my Preferences folder. Currently mine is being saved under my Cache.. so if I delete it I loose my Favorites (I know it should be saved in Playlists.. and I can't see why it hasn't, as my playlist folder is writeable, but this seems the wrong place too). MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 + HICAP NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I'm mainly speaking about the addition of the OPML browser amd the direct editing of Favorites. Both functions are too confusing and unwieldy for the home page, Isn't the OPML browser optional, must be turned on in the Favorites plugin? And there's no direct editing of Favorites in the main menu. Editing of Favorites, whilst a necessity in my opinion does not sit well on the home page. You can't edit any other function on the home page like this so the edit icon on the Favorite title is unexpected and very easy to miss. Oh, you mean that button is direct editing? Again, I think this editing functionlity is best kept in Extras. So instead of having the Favorites item have a direct link to the edit page, you'd hide it in Extras? 1) Is drag and drop going to be implemented on the Remote menus? In the player settings? That's a good idea. But to make it complete this would need a lot of work (dragging new items to add, existing to remove them, too). So I'm not sure this is going to happen in 7.0, or whether we'll just limit it to sorting. Would be handy. Or did you mean dragging menus using the remote? ;-) 2) I'd be happier if Favorites.opml got saved in my Preferences folder. Currently mine is being saved under my Cache.. so if I delete it I loose my Favorites (I know it should be saved in Playlists.. and I can't see why it hasn't, as my playlist folder is writeable, but this seems the wrong place too). I think Playlist is the right place. Do you see any error message to why it can't be written there? Is the playlist folder within the music folder? Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;252372 Wrote: I'm mainly speaking about the addition of the OPML browser amd the direct editing of Favorites. Both functions are too confusing and unwieldy for the home page Isn't the OPML browser optional, must be turned on in the Favorites plugin? And there's no direct editing of Favorites in the main menu. You might be right. If so, I don't remember turning it on. However, I have just gone to look in the Extras page and can see no item called OPML Playlist Browser Editor or indeed anything remotely like it. Does it have another name in Extras, or is it somewhere else? Michael Herger;252372 Wrote: Editing of Favorites, whilst a necessity in my opinion does not sit well on the home page. You can't edit any other function on the home page like this so the edit icon on the Favorite title is unexpected and very easy to miss. Oh, you mean that button is direct editing? Sorry not to be clear enough. OK. A (very easy to miss and unexpected) link to editing. Michael Herger;252372 Wrote: Again, I think this editing functionlity is best kept in Extras. So instead of having the Favorites item have a direct link to the edit page, you'd hide it in Extras? Yes exactly, along with all the other things you can edit if you want to. I am certain that the user interface should be kept clear and simple and that, especially cosidering new and less technically savvy users, the editing functions should be kept entitrely separate (as they have so far for the majority of editing functions in SC7). Michael Herger;252372 Wrote: 2) I'd be happier if Favorites.opml got saved in my Preferences folder. Currently mine is being saved under my Cache.. so if I delete it I loose my Favorites (I know it should be saved in Playlists.. and I can't see why it hasn't, as my playlist folder is writeable, but this seems the wrong place too). I think Playlist is the right place. Do you see any error message to why it can't be written there? Is the playlist folder within the music folder? I see no errors. My Playlist folder is on a local drive, is writeable and is separate from any of my music folders. I think Favorites is a function of SlimServer and as such should be kept within it's own settings folder (preferably not the cache for the reasons above). I don't think of Favorites as a generic playlist and thnk it belongs it in my Playlists folder (it's not even in the same file format as my other playlists). Simon -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 + HICAP NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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ModelCitizen;252381 Wrote: You might be right. If so, I don't remember turning it on. However, I have just gone to look in the Extras page and can see no item called OPML Playlist Browser Editor or indeed anything remotely like it. Does it have another name in Extras, or is it somewhere else? Ah, just found it. In Extras it is part of the Favorites plugin, but on the SC7 home page it's part of the Extras category, not the Favorites category. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 + HICAP NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin quirks
With SVN 15639: I'm finding that I can't delete the topmost entry in the now playing pane. In order to remove the the topmost entry, I'm having to drag it to another position before the X delete button will work. I think my current server setup may be exhibiting some quirks that others aren't seeing, though. Anyone else seeing this? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41423 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New default skin quirks
I'm finding that I can't delete the topmost entry in the now playing pane. In order to remove the the topmost entry, I'm having to drag it to another position before the X delete button will work. Thanks. Should now be fixed in 15642. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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What are the parameters for shuffle? The shuffle doesn't do a very good jpb of shuffling the deck. I would be nice to have some tools to shuffle playlists differently. (random, one song from each album then repeat) The old UI you could shuffle a newly created playlist multiple times and then save it. Can't do this in 7. I'll create a new playlist and then shuffle and 4 tracks from the same album remain together. You can't shuffle again without going back to sorted mode first. It would be nice to be able to create playlists while another was playing. -- teeitup teeitup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I like to adjust this by dragging it left a bit, as the right-hand side needs more space, but the setting is always lost. Could the page remember the current position/width of left-frame? I'm not sure this is easily possible. It's not that great feature, but just a frameset we're using inside the settings page. While I could try to catch the resize event and set a cookie appropriately, that's not something you should expect too soon... Feel free to add your comment to the appropriate bug report/enhancemente request already there for the main screen. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I notice that there is now a vertical splitter control on the player settings page (resizable frames), between the player menus on the left and the options for that page on the right. It's not a well-advertised thing - invisible on the screen, but I can tell it is there when I hover the mouse over it and see a resize pointer. I like to adjust this by dragging it left a bit, as the right-hand side needs more space, but the setting is always lost. Could the page remember the current position/width of left-frame? Phil ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Thanks to the poster who pointed out how to turn off album cover art. On my network SlimServer would frequently pause for long periods while supposedly trying to load cover art, dropping responsiveness to near zero. I am hopeful that turning off this feature will stop that. Is there a way within the SlimServer settings to turn off cover art by default? I have searched for a setting for that but have not found it. Thanks. -- smr888 smr888's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Replying to myself . . . even with cover art turned off, SlimServer still tries to load the large image that goes with the Now Playing song, it appears. The turn cover art off doesn't seem to turn it all off. -- smr888 smr888's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Is the official spelling style supposed to be US or UK? From the US :-/ product name I'm figuring US. The reason I ask is that a couple of weeks ago I noticed a screen with a UK spelled word on it and I remembered all of the SqueezeCenter vs. SqueezeCentre threads. I It's fixed now. We do have british developers. They're probably having a hard time getting used to the spelling :-). Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Please file this as an enhancement request. Sounds reasonable to me. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Can a similar layout as that being used on the song info page be carried out to the album page? If so, it would be very slick. I'd venture that those album pages are displayed quite often, while song info pages relatively rarely. Artwork (reduced in size, as on the song info page) on the left, with album artist, album name, genre, and year on the right. Also nice to have (IMO) would be album duration in minutes:seconds. Then below, eliminate the redundant album name from each track listing. It would also be cool to eliminate the redundant artist name from each track whenever it's the same as the album artist, but I realize that may not be easy. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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It was a bit unexpected and the only reason I paid any real attention to it was that this is beta and testing means keeping your eyes open for the little things that might be just the tip of an iceburg. Since I'm already on the limb I might as well saw it off... :) Is the official spelling style supposed to be US or UK? From the product name I'm figuring US. The reason I ask is that a couple of weeks ago I noticed a screen with a UK spelled word on it and I remembered all of the SqueezeCenter vs. SqueezeCentre threads. I didn't get a chance to note where it was - just saw it in passing right when I was about to leave town for a week. I imagine that it is already changed, but I'll take another look for it. For some reason spelling really gets noticed by a lot of people when it isn't consistent (and they really complain). I apoligize to everyone in advance if this starts another debate on the usage of the letter U and the endless Z vs. S conundrum... -- dwilliams01 dwilliams01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10988 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I've noticed that when picking either the Internet Radio or Music on Demand items from the Home page it puts an additional page link in the navigation breadcrumbs at the top of the left page. Either Internet Radio or Music on Demand appear as a seperate page. Clicking up a level goes to a page that just has larger icons for whichever section you picked into and not the home page that you started at. It's by design - and I'm surprised we haven't seen more complaints about it... Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;239409 Wrote: I've noticed that when picking either the Internet Radio or Music on Demand items from the Home page it puts an additional page link in the navigation breadcrumbs at the top of the left page. Either Internet Radio or Music on Demand appear as a seperate page. Clicking up a level goes to a page that just has larger icons for whichever section you picked into and not the home page that you started at. It's by design - and I'm surprised we haven't seen more complaints about it... You registered that totally benign comment as a complaint? Sheesh... Something similar that I notice (and would guess is not by design) is that when you browse into Favorites By Genre, a link to 'Extras' is inserted into the breadcrumbs. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael Herger;239054 Wrote: OK - If disable iTunes (SqueezeCenter - Settings) (or other extras) and then upgrade to SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30 iTunes are then enabled (so are other Extras I have disabled) Did you have to go through the wizard after upgrading? -- Michael No. I will try a clean installation with v2007-10-30, disable iTunes and then upgrade to v2007-10-31 Ole -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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PSSO;239143 Wrote: No. I will try a clean installation with v2007-10-30, disable iTunes and then upgrade to v2007-10-31 Ole I have now done a clean installation. After the installation (under SqueezeCenter - Settings - Extras) I disabled iTunes integration, Access to the Live Music Archive and Access to Podcasts and then did an upgrade to v2007-10-31 and now they are still disabled. Previously they were enabled after an upgrade. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused. Ole -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
I'm not sure if this is intended or just a missed change. I've noticed that when picking either the Internet Radio or Music on Demand items from the Home page it puts an additional page link in the navigation breadcrumbs at the top of the left page. Either Internet Radio or Music on Demand appear as a seperate page. Clicking up a level goes to a page that just has larger icons for whichever section you picked into and not the home page that you started at. Certainly not a huge deal, and probably not even a bad thing, but just a bit unexpected. -- dwilliams01 dwilliams01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10988 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
PSSO;238473 Wrote: SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-28 solved the problem. Thank you Michael. I'll do some more testing and then close case 5900 Problem returned with SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-29 and SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30. Could you please make it work again. -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Problem returned with SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-29 and SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30. Could you please make it work again. Could you please describe the issue again? What are you doing? What do you expect? What do you see? There were too many postings to follow every problem. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;238950 Wrote: Problem returned with SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-29 and SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30. Could you please make it work again. Could you please describe the issue again? What are you doing? What do you expect? What do you see? There were too many postings to follow every problem. Michael OK - If disable iTunes (SqueezeCenter - Settings) (or other extras) and then upgrade to SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30 iTunes are then enabled (so are other Extras I have disabled) SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-28 was OK, but not v2007-10-27 and not v2007-10-30 -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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OK - If disable iTunes (SqueezeCenter - Settings) (or other extras) and then upgrade to SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-30 iTunes are then enabled (so are other Extras I have disabled) Did you have to go through the wizard after upgrading? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Why no 'Stop' button? Seems very unintuitive for a music player interface. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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JJZolx;238718 Wrote: Why no 'Stop' button? Seems very unintuitive for a music player interface. Guess you haven't looked at the remote lately. It's an old question, old answer (which I'm sure you already know). But, this doesn't solve the start where you left off vs start from the track start issue on play. There is no -hold modifier for web buttons as yet. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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kdf;238722 Wrote: Guess you haven't looked at the remote lately. The remote has the obvious disadvantage of having a finite number of buttons, so using the 'Power' button for Stop is an understandable, if awkward compromise. But there's no good reason to use the same compromise in the web interface. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
But there's no good reason to use the same compromise in the web interface. There is: consistency. Add it to the web interface and people will be asking for it on the remote. You can turn it whatever you want: you can't please everyone. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
PSSO;238283 Wrote: Have tried the latest nightly (SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-27) Still the same problem - see http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5900 SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-28 solved the problem. Thank you Michael. I'll do some more testing and then close case 5900 -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Would it be possible to add a MusicIP button on the individual track page? Feel free to file an enhancement report on http://bugs.slimdevices.com -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael Herger;238558 Wrote: Would it be possible to add a MusicIP button on the individual track page? Feel free to file an enhancement report on http://bugs.slimdevices.com 'Bug 5955' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5955) posted. Thanks. -- kyleki kyleki's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2510 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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kyleki;238550 Wrote: Would it also be possible to add a Sleep button in the player interface section of the page? Perhaps somewhere near the power button? Clicking multiple times would toggle through the different sleep options the same way the Fishbone skin does. Likewise, I've now posted 'Bug 5956' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5956) for this request. -- kyleki kyleki's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2510 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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PSSO;238107 Wrote: OK I'll try the next nightly Have tried the latest nightly (SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-27) Still the same problem - see http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5900 -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Sorry for the delay... if I disable iTunes (SqueezeCenter - Settings - Extras) and update from SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-21 to SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-22 then iTunes is enabled! That should be fixed now. Thanks! Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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OK I'll try the next nightly -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
comment on the 10/26 nightly: Tried installing Prism and using it with the new UI. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ Unfortunately, the left window never loads. (It does with the straight up firefox browser.) This is just as (if not more) likely a bug with Prism as it is with the new AJAX-iness of the new skin, but I thought I'd throw it out there as something to look at. (I love the idea of being able to fire up the UI and have it look more like an app.) -- Super-Gonzo Super-Gonzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=190 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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This is just as (if not more) likely a bug with Prism as it is with the new AJAX-iness of the new skin, but I thought I'd throw it out there as something to look at. Bad luck for you: the left side is an old-school iframe. The most static, HTML 3.x part of all the skin :-). I've no idea about prism, but it probably doesn't support frames? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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if I disable iTunes (SqueezeCenter - Settings - Extras) and update from SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-21 to SlimServer_trunk_v2007-10-22 then iTunes is enabled! Have tried with several nightlies. I'm doing something wrong ? SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 13905 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt -- PSSO PSSO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I have an easy one: My file format is listed as flc, where FLAC would be preferred. And one that prob doesn't belong here: In the setup wizard iTunes is selected by default and Music Folder is not. That's two extra clicks for most users (I'd guess). -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Hi Michael, I find that the default skin is switching players occasionally. Has anyone else reported this? I'm not sure if there's anything specific causing this yet. James -- James James's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I find that the default skin is switching players occasionally. Has anyone else reported this? I'm not sure if there's anything specific causing this yet. Do you shut down some of your players or have networking problems? Or do you restart the server with the web interface opened in a browser? (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5621) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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James;236583 Wrote: Hi Michael, I find that the default skin is switching players occasionally. Has anyone else reported this? I'm not sure if there's anything specific causing this yet. James Me too. alter_sack -- alter_sack Transporter- Via Epia EN15000 - SlimServer 6.5.2 - Accuphase E-308 - Dynaudio C1 www.last.fm/user/alter_sack/ alter_sack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;236618 Wrote: Do you shut down some of your players or have networking problems? Or do you restart the server with the web interface opened in a browser? Thanks Michael, no networking issues but I do close and restart Softsqueeze quite frequently. It's very likely that I'm restarting the server with the web interface open and hitting that bug. James -- James James's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
A few comments on the 10/19 daily. I like the direction the Settings window is taking. I won't miss the big SELECT; the tabs are much better. Also it's great that the Podcast Settings are working better. Browsing and playing podcasts in the Web UI is a great feature. I don't have a Podcasts option in my Player UI, though. Perhaps that's due to cached preferences. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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When the SC Settings page is opened, although my Firefox options say New pages should be opened in: a new tab, the page is opened in a new FF window. (Firefox 2.0.0.7 on WinXP Pro SP2) Yeah, window.open seems to open a new window, even if tabbed is preferred. I will have to see whether there's another way to have a tabbed window. Would you mind opening an enhancement request? Thanks! Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I'm viewing this using SwiftWeasel (Firefox speed-optimized derivative) 2.0.0.7 on 64-bit Ubuntu Linux 7.04. SqueezeCenter is: Can you reproduce this with standard FF? Feel free to open a bug report... Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Two issues I have with the new skin, which is otherwise fantastic: - in the right-hand now playing frame, Bitrate is always cut off for me. Is it my screen resolution? I'm only running 1024X768. See screenshot. - when I put an item in now playing, if I delete it using the X icon, it stays there. It's actually gone though, when I reload the web page it goes away. I'm viewing this using SwiftWeasel (Firefox speed-optimized derivative) 2.0.0.7 on 64-bit Ubuntu Linux 7.04. SqueezeCenter is: SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 13909 - Debian - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.8 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.45-Debian_1ubuntu3 It's on a brand-new Ubuntu 7.10 install, i386 architecture. +---+ |Filename: Screenshot-SqueezeCenter - Swiftweasel.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3570| +---+ -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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When the SC Settings page is opened, although my Firefox options say New pages should be opened in: a new tab, the page is opened in a new FF window. (Firefox 2.0.0.7 on WinXP Pro SP2) -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Whoops, sorry, I forget I'm using a crazy browser. But I'm getting inconsistent behaviour which is not reproducible for a bug report. I have two versions of Firefox - Firefox 32-bit (so that I can see flash) and Firefox 64-bit. Firefox 64 is version 2.0.0.6, Firefox 32 is 2.0.0.4. Initially the 32-bit rendered with the cut-off image and the 64-bit rendered fine. Then they were all fine for a few refreshes, even SwiftWeasel fixed itself. Now all of them are cut off again? I'm very confused and I'm not sure what to report. I'm thinking it may have something to do with fonts. All 3 browsers use different fonts for some reason. SwiftWeasel is the worst of them all, the developer has never got the fonts quite right. Another issue to post: it would be really nice if the initial SqueezeCenter setup didn't resize the browser window. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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http://www.eusing.com/WindowManager/WindowManager.htm ? Well that allowed me to open Squeezecenter in Firefox with a maximized window, and the problem didn't appear. Nice work, you can ignore me now! There is supposedly a windows trick of holding Shift while closing the window to set that as the default size, but it isn't working for me in firefox. The above app lets me specify full screen, but does not seem to allow me to specify the default pixel ratio. I'll keep looking, but thanks for your help. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I can't figure out how to change the default browser size in FF so that Squeezecenter opens at the ideal size. Any tips? http://www.eusing.com/WindowManager/WindowManager.htm ? Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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When I open Squeezecenter from the tray my default browser size is 820x1012. The formatting oddity only shows up until I resize the window, either bigger or smaller, and even a tiny amount. You mean it's fixed once you resize the window? I can't figure out how to change the default browser size in FF so that Squeezecenter opens at the ideal size. Any tips? Hmm... didn't you say you were using Opera? Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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You mean it's fixed once you resize the window? Yes even a tiny amount of resizing pulls everything into line. Since my default browser size is odd it may be a problem nobody else sees(?). It's not that big of a deal at any rate, since there is hardly ever more than one page of search results.. Hmm... didn't you say you were using Opera? I'm testing in Firefox and Opera, the screenshot of the formatting problem is from Firefox 2.0.0.1. Opera seemed to have bigger problems with long lists of search results, resulting in multiple scroll bars. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Sorry if this is off topic but it was my Firefox profile causing the problem. Creating a new one allows me to specify the default minimized size by simply closing the window. I haven't seen the search formatting issue with a new default browser size either. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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I'm having some search issues in FF and Opera on Windows (SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 13879 - Windows 2000 - EN - cp1252). In FF 2.0.0.1 when a long list of search results is returned (try searching for 'the') the very last one isn't reachable with the scroll bar (see screenshot). In Opera 9.2, also with more than one page of results, the entries are repeated and I get multiple scroll bars. +---+ |Filename: FF.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3564| +---+ -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael Herger;236033 Wrote: I'm having some search issues in FF and Opera on Windows (SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 13879 - Windows 2000 - EN - cp1252). What kind of search is this? Livesearch from the top right corner? From the search page or avanced? Michael It was from the search page, but after noticing it yesterday and today, I can't reproduce it anymore. I had been using the Enter key rather than the search button, but after doing it properly once it seems fixed. Sorry. Opera does still seem to break no matter how I search, when there are lots of results anyway. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Skunk;236040 Wrote: It was from the search page, but after noticing it yesterday and today, I can't reproduce it anymore. OK I can reproduce it now, but it may be a quirk in my browser. When I open Squeezecenter from the tray my default browser size is 820x1012. The formatting oddity only shows up until I resize the window, either bigger or smaller, and even a tiny amount. I can't figure out how to change the default browser size in FF so that Squeezecenter opens at the ideal size. Any tips? -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael, here are the screenshots you requested from the setting pages using your new wrappers: Classic skin: http://erland.homeip.net/arkiv/slimserver/settingsclassic.png Default skin: http://erland.homeip.net/arkiv/slimserver/settingsdefault.png Fishbone skin: http://erland.homeip.net/arkiv/slimserver/settingsfishbone.png I entered the direct page url since the SqueezeCenter Settings link in the default skin just opens the settings pages in the classic skin in a new window. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael, here are the screenshots you requested from the setting pages using your new wrappers: Thanks. They look ok. I entered the direct page url since the SqueezeCenter Settings link in the default skin just opens the settings pages in the classic skin in a new window. No longer: a few minutes ago I checked in a change which now links to Default/settings. Give it some thorough testing! -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Michael Herger;235845 Wrote: I entered the direct page url since the SqueezeCenter Settings link in the default skin just opens the settings pages in the classic skin in a new window. No longer: a few minutes ago I checked in a change which now links to Default/settings. Give it some thorough testing! Pages that contain more attributes than what can be shown on one page doesn't work since there is no scrollbar. Shouldn't the plugin entries also be available as tabs or have you decided that the only way to access plugin settings is through the Settings button beside the plugin in the Extras tab ? In the other skins there is an Extras entry but also a Custom Browse entry in the menu where you selecting section in the SqueezeCenter Settings dialog. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Pages that contain more attributes than what can be shown on one page doesn't work since there is no scrollbar. Arrgh... FF? Everything was fine until I noticed that IE7 (but not IE6) displayed _two_ scrollbars, one of which didn't do anything. Thus I started fiddling with various settings, until all were fine but Safari. Some more fiddling later we seem to have broken FF :-(. Shouldn't the plugin entries also be available as tabs or have you decided that the only way to access plugin settings is through the Settings button beside the plugin in the Extras tab ? They're available in advanced. But the links in the Extras tabs should be fixed, too. In the other skins there is an Extras entry but also a Custom Browse entry in the menu where you selecting section in the SqueezeCenter Settings dialog. We wanted to clean up the main screen, hiding anything remotely exotic in the Advanced tab. Whether the plugins will stay there or not is still to be defined. You just gave use a first feedback. Thanks! -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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max.spicer;222656 Wrote: SlimServer is all (and only!) about My Music...I agree 100%! I appreciate the lack of clutter when I drill down to the My Music page, though. Is there a url that would link me there directly? -Could- there be? OT: Doesn't Microsoft own the trademark -My Music?- They keep it right next to 'this old patent' (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29130)... Anyway, I like how the new skin is coming along: thanks! -- windowshade windowshade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael, would it be possible to add the mixer icons beside each song in the current playlist section, for example the MusicMagic mm icon ? I'm sure it's feasible, but I doubt it will be approved by those who have the powers: the idea is to have a simple and clean GUI by default. (But then I always wanted to add a hidden feature to allow for more control buttons anyway ;-)). The mixer icons are already today available in the current playlist in the fishbone skin. I'll have a look at it. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New Default skin
Do you intend to change the edit playlist page to support drag and drop editing? Having the best support for the new skin in all places is a target. But that particular page is not a priority for now. Feel free to add this as an enhancemente request to bugzilla so we don't forget it. Also, some text entries (for example edit playlist name) could be styled like the search text entry field. Some of this will happen when I start working on the settings. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael, please check out the Jive I don't want album art thread, as some of it is relevant to the web UI: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39185 Bottom line, a number of us (including myself) would like the ability to use Jive and SC7 web without it trying to display cover art. Thanks, Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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bklaas;234336 Wrote: Doesn't that about cover it? Hah! (I crack myself up sometimes with my bad jokes) Thanks for the pointers. That (and the playlist collapse button) helps a lot. But on the left/browse pane, if I go My Music Albums and select an album, I still have a big cover image and have to scroll the left/browse pane to see the song list. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Do you intend to change the edit playlist page to support drag and drop editing? Also, some text entries (for example edit playlist name) could be styled like the search text entry field. Phil ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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How can I easily relaunch the wizard to check the correction of bug #5597? Am I wrong, or have I seen expanding tree with album titles of an artist or tracks title of an album in this new default skin? I can't get anything tree expand now and I'm wondering if it's a problem, normal... or personal brain damage. -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael, do you like us to write bugzilla reports on feature requests regarding the new skin, or is it better to just post them in this thread, or maybe both ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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How can I easily relaunch the wizard to check the correction of bug #5597? http://yourserver:9000/settings/server/wizard.html Am I wrong, or have I seen expanding tree with album titles of an artist or tracks title of an album in this new default skin? That's never been part of the new skin, but might still be available in Classic Fishbone. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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Michael, do you like us to write bugzilla reports on feature requests regarding the new skin, or is it better to just post them in this thread, or maybe both ? Please file bugs as bug reports. Feature requests? You can file them, but please clearly mark them as enhancement. Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
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That's what I feared, could be either my brain either a bad refresh during skin changing... all in all, it's a good feature for the new default skin ;) -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37848 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta
