subject:"RE\: \[BlindHandyMan\] Garbage disposal"

That's correct. I have really looked. I was able
to turn it with a wrench in the bottom, but it is
extremely stiff. And yes, I pushed the reset button. It just hums.
Betsy
At 12:53 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:

Betsy,

I am late to this thread, so forgive if I revisit issues.

Do I understand you find nothing in the disposal blocking it?

At 07:37 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To:
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if
I can turn it from the bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:

Hi,

Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
you will have to loosen the material that is
caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Brice Mijares

Did you try turning it counter clock wise? Providing the motor turns clock 
wise, turning that direction would draw whatever is stuck in there deeper. 
Going counter clock wise would  back it out, or at least free up the jammmed 
section . 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha Ron,
I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday 
we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see 
what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting 
my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail 
around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.

I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's 
a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone, 
but that will cost me more than a new one.
Please feel free to send more suggestions.
Betsy
At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or 
sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck 
bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the 
disposal around the edge and see, no pun 
intended, if you can find something of the cloth 
or may be some plastic like off of some 
packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to 
find. As long as the switch is off this is safe. 
If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel safer.
You likely will need some pliers to pull out 
what you can to free up the disposal.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
 To: 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
 
 There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
 anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
 freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
 Betsy
 At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Hi,
  
  Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
  direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
  you will have to loosen the material that is
  caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
  came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
  nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
  insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
  RJ
  
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins

Betsy,

My vote at this point is to simply replace the unit. Is this something you
feel comfortable doing? If not, let us know and maybe a bunch of us can come
over (smile)

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal



  Aloha Ron,
  I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday
  we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see
  what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting
  my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail
  around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.

  I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's
  a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone,
  but that will cost me more than a new one.
  Please feel free to send more suggestions.
  Betsy
  At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or
  sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck
  bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the
  disposal around the edge and see, no pun
  intended, if you can find something of the cloth
  or may be some plastic like off of some
  packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to
  find. As long as the switch is off this is safe.
  If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel safer.
  You likely will need some pliers to pull out
  what you can to free up the disposal.
  Ron
  - Original Message -
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
  
  Aloha all,
  I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
  from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
  takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
  any easier after turning it several times.
  
  RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
  Betsy
  At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:
   
   
   Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
   To:
  
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.
comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
   
   There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
   anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
   freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the
bottom.
   Betsy
   At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:


Hi,

Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
you will have to loosen the material that is
caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
RJ

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

I think I'm not comfortable doing it, and scarier 
than that, HWKE (he who knows everything) will 
think he should do it. I probably can scare him 
by reminding him that electricity is involved. I 
suggested that he unplug the unit before messing 
with it, and he said there was nowhere to unplug 
it. Poor dear, he really wants to be the Mr. fix 
it guy. I did not suggest that he follow the cord 
to the outlet. Did I say that he is sighted?

We are going to get our sheet vinyl installed by 
the same contractor who installed our kitchen 
cabinets and counter, so I think I'll let him do it.
However, it would be much more fun to let you 
guys do it... Not sure I can afford the beer bill though.
Betsy


At 02:06 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


Betsy,

My vote at this point is to simply replace the unit. Is this something you
feel comfortable doing? If not, let us know and maybe a bunch of us can come
over (smile)

Al
-Original Message-
From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha Ron,
I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday
we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see
what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting
my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail
around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.

I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's
a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone,
but that will cost me more than a new one.
Please feel free to send more suggestions.
Betsy
At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or
 sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck
 bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the
 disposal around the edge and see, no pun
 intended, if you can find something of the cloth
 or may be some plastic like off of some
 packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to
 find. As long as the switch is off this is safe.
 If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel safer.
 You likely will need some pliers to pull out
 what you can to free up the disposal.
 Ron
 - Original Message -
 From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
 To: 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
 
 Aloha all,
 I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
 from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
 takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
 any easier after turning it several times.
 
 RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
 Betsy
 At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
  To:
 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.
commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
  
  There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
  anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
  freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the
bottom.
  Betsy
  At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
   
   
   Hi,
   
   Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
   direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
   you will have to loosen the material that is
   caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
   came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
   nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
   insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
   RJ
   
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins

Betsy,

Sounds good, keep us posted. BTW, are you ever in the VIP Blindhandyman chat
room that was setup awhile ago?

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:15 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal



  I think I'm not comfortable doing it, and scarier
  than that, HWKE (he who knows everything) will
  think he should do it. I probably can scare him
  by reminding him that electricity is involved. I
  suggested that he unplug the unit before messing
  with it, and he said there was nowhere to unplug
  it. Poor dear, he really wants to be the Mr. fix
  it guy. I did not suggest that he follow the cord
  to the outlet. Did I say that he is sighted?

  We are going to get our sheet vinyl installed by
  the same contractor who installed our kitchen
  cabinets and counter, so I think I'll let him do it.
  However, it would be much more fun to let you
  guys do it... Not sure I can afford the beer bill though.
  Betsy

  At 02:06 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Betsy,
  
  My vote at this point is to simply replace the unit. Is this something
you
  feel comfortable doing? If not, let us know and maybe a bunch of us can
come
  over (smile)
  
  Al
  -Original Message-
  From:
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
  Press
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00 PM
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
  
  Aloha Ron,
  I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday
  we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see
  what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting
  my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail
  around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.
  
  I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's
  a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone,
  but that will cost me more than a new one.
  Please feel free to send more suggestions.
  Betsy
  At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
   
   
   Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or
   sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck
   bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the
   disposal around the edge and see, no pun
   intended, if you can find something of the cloth
   or may be some plastic like off of some
   packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to
   find. As long as the switch is off this is safe.
   If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel
safer.
   You likely will need some pliers to pull out
   what you can to free up the disposal.
   Ron
   - Original Message -
   From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
   To:
  
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.
comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
   
   Aloha all,
   I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
   from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
   takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
   any easier after turning it several times.
   
   RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
   Betsy
   At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:


Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To:
   
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogrou
ps.
  commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the
  bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
 direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
 you will have to loosen the material that is
 caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
 came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
 nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
 insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
 RJ
 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Dan Rossi

YEAH! BABY!  Partay in paradise.  It's been 25 years since I visited 
Hawaii so it's about time to go again.  Don't worry Betsy, we'll supply 
the beer, you just need to give us a place to crash.  We'll have that 
garbage disposal in, in like two or three weeks.  Yeah, I doubt it will 
take us more than a month.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

No, I've never gotten around to learning about 
voice chatting, and I don't have a microphone connected to this computer.
Betsy

At 02:19 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


Betsy,

Sounds good, keep us posted. BTW, are you ever in the VIP Blindhandyman chat
room that was setup awhile ago?

Al
-Original Message-
From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:15 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

I think I'm not comfortable doing it, and scarier
than that, HWKE (he who knows everything) will
think he should do it. I probably can scare him
by reminding him that electricity is involved. I
suggested that he unplug the unit before messing
with it, and he said there was nowhere to unplug
it. Poor dear, he really wants to be the Mr. fix
it guy. I did not suggest that he follow the cord
to the outlet. Did I say that he is sighted?

We are going to get our sheet vinyl installed by
the same contractor who installed our kitchen
cabinets and counter, so I think I'll let him do it.
However, it would be much more fun to let you
guys do it... Not sure I can afford the beer bill though.
Betsy

At 02:06 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Betsy,
 
 My vote at this point is to simply replace the unit. Is this something
you
 feel comfortable doing? If not, let us know and maybe a bunch of us can
come
 over (smile)
 
 Al
 -Original Message-
 From:
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
 Press
 Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00 PM
 To: 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
 
 Aloha Ron,
 I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday
 we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see
 what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting
 my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail
 around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.
 
 I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's
 a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone,
 but that will cost me more than a new one.
 Please feel free to send more suggestions.
 Betsy
 At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or
  sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck
  bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the
  disposal around the edge and see, no pun
  intended, if you can find something of the cloth
  or may be some plastic like off of some
  packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to
  find. As long as the switch is off this is safe.
  If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel
safer.
  You likely will need some pliers to pull out
  what you can to free up the disposal.
  Ron
  - Original Message -
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
  To:
 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.
commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
  
  Aloha all,
  I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
  from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
  takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
  any easier after turning it several times.
  
  RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
  Betsy
  At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:
   
   
   Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
   To:
  
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogrou
ps.
 commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comma 
 ilto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
   
   There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
   anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
   freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the
 bottom.
   Betsy
   At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:


Hi,

Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
you will have to loosen the material that is
caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
RJ

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Lololol, I think Sofia needs a trip to Hawaii.
Betsy
At 02:20 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


YEAH! BABY! Partay in paradise. It's been 25 years since I visited
Hawaii so it's about time to go again. Don't worry Betsy, we'll supply
the beer, you just need to give us a place to crash. We'll have that
garbage disposal in, in like two or three weeks. Yeah, I doubt it will
take us more than a month.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail:mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Brice Mijares

After reading your last message, 30 years, yes, I'd say a new one is in 
order.  Matter a fact, you'll be lucky to find a company that will 
guarantee one more than 10 years.  I just bought one here this past December 
at Lows, it cost me just over a hundred dollars, half horse, and only 5 year 
warranty.  There was a brand at Orchard Supply that I bought at our last 
home that I bought, it was called the Bone Crusher.  3 quarter horse, 10 
year warranty, and at the time it was around $80.  That was back in 2000. 
Good luck.
- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal


Unfortunately yes.
Betsy
At 01:58 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


Did you try turning it counter clock wise? Providing the motor turns clock
wise, turning that direction would draw whatever is stuck in there deeper.
Going counter clock wise would back it out, or at least free up the jammmed
section .

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Ron Yearns

Well the turning it backwards might work. Otherwise a socket with a long
extension to remove the nut on the cutters and someone to hold the hex wrench
in the bottom should allow the cutters to come up. You may not be able to
remove them as a lot of disposals taper in and the upper housing would have to
be removed, which of course requires removing the disposal from under the sink.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha Ron,
I thought exactly what you're saying. Yesterday
we got a flashlight and a mirror trying to see
what might be in there. I'm not afraid of putting
my hand in there and I even ran my finger nail
around the very edge to see if I could find something. No joy.

I think the poor thing may be 30 years old. It's
a Kenmore and I thought about calling someone,
but that will cost me more than a new one.
Please feel free to send more suggestions.
Betsy
At 01:27 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:

Most likely you have a chunk of dish cloth or
sponge lodged in the cutters. It could be stuck
bearings, but doubtful. Feel down inside the
disposal around the edge and see, no pun
intended, if you can find something of the cloth
or may be some plastic like off of some
packaging . Feel real good it may be hard to
find. As long as the switch is off this is safe.
If it is the plug in style unplug also if that will make you feel safer.
You likely will need some pliers to pull out
what you can to free up the disposal.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To:

mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:

Hi,

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread RJ

It is easier to use the socket and turn it clockwise to cut what is stuck. Done
this several times in the past.
RJ
- Original Message -
From: Ron Yearns
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 21:47
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To:

mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:

Hi,

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Kevin Doucet

Ok,

Well, my suggestion was to pushed the reset button so I don't know.

Sorry!

At 06:55 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:

Betsy,

I am late to this thread, so forgive if I revisit issues.

Do I understand you find nothing in the disposal blocking it?

At 07:37 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To:

mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Hi,

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-23 Thread Kevin Doucet

Don't forget supplying the spam! I hear it is the 
meet of choice in your neck of the woods!


At 07:20 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:


YEAH! BABY! Partay in paradise. It's been 25 years since I visited
Hawaii so it's about time to go again. Don't worry Betsy, we'll supply
the beer, you just need to give us a place to crash. We'll have that
garbage disposal in, in like two or three weeks. Yeah, I doubt it will
take us more than a month.

--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail:mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edud...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread Lee A. Stone


our high tax's here in my part of NY pay for the privlage to let a 
garbage truck on the strees. and the right tho have  a street light 
which I do not need.  I'll change the subject  line and come back with a 
new plan I have  to take care of most of the garbage. Lee


 On Sun, Mar 
21, 2010 
at 06:36:49PM -0500, Greg Roggeman wrote:
 Wow, $54 per month?
 
 We also do it the old fashioned way but the cost is covered by our property
 taxes.  They pick it up twice a week, Monday and Thursday, and they pick up
 yard waste on Wednesdays.  I don't mind paying the taxes with services like
 this. 
 
 Cheers,
 Greg
 St. Louis, MO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:21 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal
 
 
 in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal 
 works like this.  I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside 
 and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down 
 to the street for $54 a month. Lee
 
  On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM 
 -0400, RJ wrote:
  If you have a set of socket  and a extension, you can use it to loosen the
 blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread RJ

Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  There doesn't seem to be anything caught in 
  anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn 
  freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
  Betsy
  At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:

  Hi,

  Those blades are to turn without resistant. They 
  direct the food into the cutters. I would bet 
  you will have to loosen the material that is 
  caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that 
  came with the unit or use a socket that fits the 
  nut inside the unit. by placing it in the 
  insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
  RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press

Aloha all,
I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal 
from the bottom and it does turn but it almost 
takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get 
any easier after turning it several times.

RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
Betsy
At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:


Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
 direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
 you will have to loosen the material that is
 caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
 came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
 nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
 insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
 RJ
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread RJ

Put a extension on the socket and put it on the nut in the center of the  
disposal. I believe mine  takes a 3/4 inch socket. Put the racket on the 
extension and turn the socket clockwise. Unplug the disposal and u can put your 
hand down the disposal and feel the nut.
RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 20:37
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  Aloha all,
  I did get hold of a wrench to turn the disposal 
  from the bottom and it does turn but it almost 
  takes 3 men and a baby to move it. It didn't get 
  any easier after turning it several times.

  RJ, where would I put the socket to turn it from the top?
  Betsy
  At 12:48 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

  Get a socket wrench and turn it from the top.

  - Original Message -
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 23:33
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  There doesn't seem to be anything caught in
  anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn
  freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
  Betsy
  At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:

   Hi,

   Those blades are to turn without resistant. They
   direct the food into the cutters. I would bet
   you will have to loosen the material that is
   caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that
   came with the unit or use a socket that fits the
   nut inside the unit. by placing it in the
   insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
   RJ

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread Spiro

Our city is either going to add $300; or 12.5% to the prop tax for trash 
pick-up. the benefit of 12.5% is the ratio, and prop taxes can be 
deducted.





On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Greg Roggeman wrote:

 Wow, $54 per month?

 We also do it the old fashioned way but the cost is covered by our property
 taxes.  They pick it up twice a week, Monday and Thursday, and they pick up
 yard waste on Wednesdays.  I don't mind paying the taxes with services like
 this.

 Cheers,
 Greg
 St. Louis, MO

 -Original Message-
 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:21 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal


 in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal
 works like this.  I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside
 and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down
 to the street for $54 a month. Lee

 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM
 -0400, RJ wrote:
 If you have a set of socket  and a extension, you can use it to loosen the
 blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
   - Original Message

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-22 Thread Bill Gallik

Betsy,

Is there any chance something like, oh, say, the top of a can, got jammed in 
your disposal?

That seems like an awful lot of force for turning the darn thing.

Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Dan Rossi

Betsy,

The hatchet head things are supposed to turn freely, or at least one of 
them is supposed to.  Sometimes one of them is fixed and one turns freely. 
The whole plate is supposed to turn.


-- 
Blue skies.
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Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread RJ

Hi,

Those blades are to turn without resistant. They direct the food into the 
cutters. I would bet you will have to loosen the material that is caught in the 
cutters. U can use a wrench that came with the unit or use a socket  that fits 
the nut inside the unit. by placing it in the insides of the unit. I believe 
the nut should be turned clockwise.
RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Lee A. Stone


in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal 
works like this.  I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside 
and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down 
to the street for $54 a month. Lee

 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM 
-0400, RJ wrote:
 If you have a set of socket  and a extension, you can use it to loosen the 
 blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
   - Original Message 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

-- 
All the really good ideas I ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.
-- Grant Wood

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Greg Roggeman

Wow, $54 per month?

We also do it the old fashioned way but the cost is covered by our property
taxes.  They pick it up twice a week, Monday and Thursday, and they pick up
yard waste on Wednesdays.  I don't mind paying the taxes with services like
this. 

Cheers,
Greg
St. Louis, MO

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:21 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal


in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal 
works like this.  I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside 
and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down 
to the street for $54 a month. Lee

 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM 
-0400, RJ wrote:
 If you have a set of socket  and a extension, you can use it to loosen the
blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
   - Original Message 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

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-- Grant Wood




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Dale Leavens

Mine is like that too but being in Canada they take it away for free.

Same with my health care. It comes for free too.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal 
  works like this. I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside 
  and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down 
  to the street for $54 a month. Lee

  On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM 
  -0400, RJ wrote:
   If you have a set of socket and a extension, you can use it to loosen the 
blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
   - Original Message 

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  -- 
  All the really good ideas I ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.
  -- Grant Wood

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Bob Kennedy

Now you're bragging.  
- Original Message - 
From: Dale Leavens 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal


  
Mine is like that too but being in Canada they take it away for free.

Same with my health care. It comes for free too.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
- Original Message - 
From: Lee A. Stone 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal 
works like this. I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside 
and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down 
to the street for $54 a month. Lee

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM 
-0400, RJ wrote:
 If you have a set of socket and a extension, you can use it to loosen the 
 blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
 - Original Message 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

-- 
All the really good ideas I ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.
-- Grant Wood

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press

There doesn't seem to be anything caught in 
anything. The hatchet-head looking things turn 
freely. I'll get a wrench tomorrow to see if I can turn it from the bottom.
Betsy
At 06:24 AM 3/21/2010, you wrote:


Hi,

Those blades are to turn without resistant. They 
direct the food into the cutters. I would bet 
you will have to loosen the material that is 
caught in the cutters. U can use a wrench that 
came with the unit or use a socket that fits the 
nut inside the unit. by placing it in the 
insides of the unit. I believe the nut should be turned clockwise.
RJ

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-21 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press

We pay $25 per month and most of our garbage goes 
out to the compost. We don't actually have 
garbage collection here. You have to hire someone 
to hall it away. The dump is about 12 miles so it's worth the cost to me.
Betsy
At 01:36 PM 3/21/2010, you wrote:


Wow, $54 per month?

We also do it the old fashioned way but the cost is covered by our property
taxes. They pick it up twice a week, Monday and Thursday, and they pick up
yard waste on Wednesdays. I don't mind paying the taxes with services like
this.

Cheers,
Greg
St. Louis, MO

-Original Message-
From: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:21 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

in our house we are still behind the times so our garbaged disposal
works like this. I tie up the bag to be disposed of, then go outside
and put it in the big bucket and then on a thursday night take it down
to the street for $54 a month. Lee

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:51:29PM
-0400, RJ wrote:
  If you have a set of socket and a extension, you can use it to loosen the
blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
  - Original Message
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins

Betsy,

Yes, it is a large Allen wrench. I just checked mine under the sink. Another
thing I've done in the past is use a regular flat tip screwdriver. If you
have a few around give it a try. Once inserted use a pair of pliers or
something to turn it back  forth

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:41 PM
  To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal



  Aloha everyone,
  You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the
  kitchen, but I lost that one.

  Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had
  taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of
  the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to
  turn it. Is it an
  alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades
  on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the
  reset button.
  Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
  Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.



  


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Kennedy

I think the recess is a square drive on most so an Allen wrench won't do the 
trick.

If it is humming and the blades spin free, it sounds like the motor is working 
but something has disconnected from the shaft the blades should be connected 
to.  

That's hard to say how they are connected, and you probably don't want to get 
that deep into one for the price of a new one.  

You can try to fit a large flat, or regular blade from a screw driver in the 
recess at the bottom.  You may be able to span the opening diagonally and then 
twist it like driving a screw.


- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:41 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal


  
Aloha everyone,
You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the 
kitchen, but I lost that one.

Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had 
taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of 
the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to 
turn it. Is it an
alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades 
on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the 
reset button.
Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.





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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press

Do I need to unplug the unit before trying to turn it?
Thanks, Betsy
At 10:50 AM 3/20/2010, you wrote:


Betsy,

Yes, it is a large Allen wrench. I just checked mine under the sink. Another
thing I've done in the past is use a regular flat tip screwdriver. If you
have a few around give it a try. Once inserted use a pair of pliers or
something to turn it back  forth

Al
-Original Message-
From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:41 PM
To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha everyone,
You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the
kitchen, but I lost that one.

Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had
taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of
the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to
turn it. Is it an
alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades
on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the
reset button.
Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Bob Kennedy

No just don't turn it on while you are working on it.
- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Do I need to unplug the unit before trying to turn it?
Thanks, Betsy
At 10:50 AM 3/20/2010, you wrote:

Betsy,

Yes, it is a large Allen wrench. I just checked mine under the sink. Another
thing I've done in the past is use a regular flat tip screwdriver. If you
have a few around give it a try. Once inserted use a pair of pliers or
something to turn it back  forth

Al
-Original Message-
From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
Press
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:41 PM
To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

Aloha everyone,
You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the
kitchen, but I lost that one.

Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had
taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of
the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to
turn it. Is it an
alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades
on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the
reset button.
Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Brice Mijares

Mine is a Allan wrench, somewhere around 3 eights of a inch.  Can't be sure 
though, don't feel like looking for it.  But we keep it in a rocker like 
drawer in front of the sink just under the counter top.  In the old days, 
we'd take the broom handle and stick it down into the garbage disposal and 
turn it counter clockwise. good luck.
- Original Message - 
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com
To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:41 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

 Aloha everyone,
 You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the
 kitchen, but I lost that one.

 Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had
 taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of
 the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to
 turn it. Is it an
 alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough.  The blades
 on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the
 reset button.
 Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
 Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread RJ

If you have a set of socket  and a extension, you can use it to loosen the 
blades. That is what I use since we lost the allen wrench for the disposal
  - Original Message 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Ron Yearns

Yes it takes a allen wrench.  Try rocking it back and forth.  If it turns 
freely, then it is likely the starting switch or capacitor.  Both are internal 
to the motor.  No telling what a motor repair shop would charge to repair, but 
it is possible.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:41 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  Aloha everyone,
  You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the 
  kitchen, but I lost that one.

  Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had 
  taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of 
  the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to 
  turn it. Is it an
  alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades 
  on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the 
  reset button.
  Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
  Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Ron Yearns

Just make sure it is turned off.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  Do I need to unplug the unit before trying to turn it?
  Thanks, Betsy
  At 10:50 AM 3/20/2010, you wrote:

  Betsy,

  Yes, it is a large Allen wrench. I just checked mine under the sink. Another
  thing I've done in the past is use a regular flat tip screwdriver. If you
  have a few around give it a try. Once inserted use a pair of pliers or
  something to turn it back  forth

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin
  Press
  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:41 PM
  To: blindhandyman-yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

  Aloha everyone,
  You know, I wanted to replace the garbage disposal when we did the
  kitchen, but I lost that one.

  Today the unit only hums when I turn it on. I remembered that I had
  taped the wrench to insert at the bottom to turn it on the inside of
  the old cabinet and for got all about it. So, now I have no tool to
  turn it. Is it an
  alan wrench? I have a couple but they aren't big enough. The blades
  on the inside turn freely and water drains through. I did press the
  reset button.
  Suggestions? TIA, Betsy
  Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Garbage disposal

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Gallik

Betsy,

I'm not sure I get the problem.  You say that when you turn the garbage 
disposal on, it only hums.  And then you say that the inside blades turn, my 
disposal only has inside blades -- and then they're not really blades neither 
but rather little hatchet heads of a sort.

Are you sure the reset button doesn't need to be deployed? The reset button is 
-- well -- a button usually towards the bottom of the disposal housing; 
depending on how the disposal was installed it might be to the front or to the 
back.  If you press that I'll bet the disposal will do a lot more than just hum.

Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net
- A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents.
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread Gerry Leary

Well it would be easier if you got the same size and configuration, because 
then you wouldn't have to play around with the pipes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread Gerry Leary

Hello Bob,

That was a very good explanation.  I do most of my own kitchen work, and I 
found your note to be very good.  I wish I could write that well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much to 
installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight area with a 
rather heavy and hard to hold piece. 

  It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink. I like to run with 2 
inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved. You can pick up a 
kit at any of the box stores. It will have the 2 lines that run up to the 
sink basket, but if you get 1 for a disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop 
line. You also need to make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the 
same size. Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of extra 
pressure at that point.

  What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in as well. 
The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some disposals. If there is 
a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on the drain as well. An extra hole to 
fill.

  The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink. They sell a tool 
that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end. Some have a rod 
already in the other end, others include the rod and you keep track of it. 

  The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to make the 
basket come loose. If you have a helper, it works nice for them to hold the rod 
while you go under the sink and tap the retainer ring loose. 

  Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new basket goes 
in place. Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is still silicone sealer from 
the automotive world. Put a bead around the top side of the sink and set the 
basket in place. Most likely there will be a gasket that goes on the bottom 
side of the sink, followed by a retainer ring. You can use the gasket, but 
because I am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little sealer on 
the bottom side of the sink as well. Tighten the retainer ring and the fun can 
start. 

  I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink. There are several 
ways I've seen used and they are all a little different. Most common seems to 
have a spring and catch assembly that you have to thread part of on to the 
bottom of the basket. Then you twist the disposal until it snaps in place over 
the spring. There are usually about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from 
vibrating and twisting around.

  Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the disposal and 
to the other side of the sink. 

  If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water for a 
while to check for leaks.

  Finally put the wires together. Make sure to use the clamp that comes with 
the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the disposal. Use wire 
nuts to connect the black with the black and white with white. Carefully stuff 
the wires in place and screw in the cap to cover the opening. 

  If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch. Listen to 
that new unit come to life. If nothing happens remember there may be kids 
around before you start preaching and try to figure out what went wrong... 
There may be a circuit breaker on the unit that needs pushed in before it will 
work the first time.

  Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

I appreciate that.  I am in the writing world known as long worded...  If 
someone asks a question it really doesn't help much to give one line answers.  
And if I don't have an answer I won't reply.  

I try to read my emails before I send them.  Doing that points out if something 
isn't clear when I hear it so I'll stop and add or change or delete something 
so it's about as clear as I know how to make it.  Having done things like this 
for a number of years also helps to make it easier to explain.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gerry Leary 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  Hello Bob,

  That was a very good explanation. I do most of my own kitchen work, and I 
found your note to be very good. I wish I could write that well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much to 
installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight area with a 
rather heavy and hard to hold piece. 

  It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink. I like to run with 2 
inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved. You can pick up a 
kit at any of the box stores. It will have the 2 lines that run up to the 
sink basket, but if you get 1 for a disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop 
line. You also need to make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the 
same size. Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of extra 
pressure at that point.

  What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in as well. 
The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some disposals. If there is 
a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on the drain as well. An extra hole to 
fill.

  The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink. They sell a tool 
that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end. Some have a rod 
already in the other end, others include the rod and you keep track of it. 

  The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to make the 
basket come loose. If you have a helper, it works nice for them to hold the rod 
while you go under the sink and tap the retainer ring loose. 

  Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new basket goes 
in place. Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is still silicone sealer from 
the automotive world. Put a bead around the top side of the sink and set the 
basket in place. Most likely there will be a gasket that goes on the bottom 
side of the sink, followed by a retainer ring. You can use the gasket, but 
because I am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little sealer on 
the bottom side of the sink as well. Tighten the retainer ring and the fun can 
start. 

  I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink. There are several 
ways I've seen used and they are all a little different. Most common seems to 
have a spring and catch assembly that you have to thread part of on to the 
bottom of the basket. Then you twist the disposal until it snaps in place over 
the spring. There are usually about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from 
vibrating and twisting around.

  Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the disposal and 
to the other side of the sink. 

  If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water for a 
while to check for leaks.

  Finally put the wires together. Make sure to use the clamp that comes with 
the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the disposal. Use wire 
nuts to connect the black with the black and white with white. Carefully stuff 
the wires in place and screw in the cap to cover the opening. 

  If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch. Listen to 
that new unit come to life. If nothing happens remember there may be kids 
around before you start preaching and try to figure out what went wrong... 
There may be a circuit breaker on the unit that needs pushed in before it will 
work the first time.

  Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Riddle

How does it hook up to the electrical supply? Just alligator clips? How do you 
match the wires if it's the latter? Just click them together and hope for the 
best?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

Alligator clips and AC current aren't a good idea.  There are usually 2 wires 
inside the unit, a cap with a couple Philips screws is the access point.  Pull 
the wires out, and run black to black and white to white.  I lay a length of 
house and disposal wire next to each other and braid the ends together.  Then 
run a wire nut on the braided part.  I always tape beginning on the wires and 
out on to the wire nut.  Then tuck the wires back inside as much as possible.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  How does it hook up to the electrical supply? Just alligator clips? How do 
you match the wires if it's the latter? Just click them together and hope for 
the best?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread RJ

Don't forget to use the ground nut to ground the unit. It is standard practice 
in Ba. to use a receptical and plug to power the unit.
RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

Where is BA?
  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  Don't forget to use the ground nut to ground the unit. It is standard 
practice in Ba. to use a receptical and plug to power the unit.
  RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread Lenny McHugh

Hi Bob, I like you always twisted the wires before using the wire nut. I 
always used the tape as you described. A few years ago I had an electrician 
friend here when I was running the 220 line for my dust collector. When I 
got out the tape he told me not to use it that it is no longer in the 
electric code. Wonder where I could find that code. He told me that in the 
past some people relied on the tape as opposed to making sure that the wire 
nut was tight enough. Next time I talk to him I will try and remember to ask 
more about it.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kennedy bobke...@bellsouth.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal


Alligator clips and AC current aren't a good idea.  There are usually 2 
wires inside the unit, a cap with a couple Philips screws is the access 
point.  Pull the wires out, and run black to black and white to white.  I 
lay a length of house and disposal wire next to each other and braid the 
ends together.  Then run a wire nut on the braided part.  I always tape 
beginning on the wires and out on to the wire nut.  Then tuck the wires back 
inside as much as possible.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  How does it hook up to the electrical supply? Just alligator clips? How do 
you match the wires if it's the latter? Just click them together and hope 
for the best?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-11 Thread RJ

Believe there was a typo.
Smile
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 17:41
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  Where is BA?
  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  Don't forget to use the ground nut to ground the unit. It is standard 
practice in Ba. to use a receptical and plug to power the unit.
  RJ

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

I'm guilty of over kill so I'll probably just keep using the tape anyway. I
only use it to add a little insurance that the wire nut won't pop off.
- Original Message -
From: Lenny McHugh
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

Hi Bob, I like you always twisted the wires before using the wire nut. I
always used the tape as you described. A few years ago I had an electrician
friend here when I was running the 220 line for my dust collector. When I
got out the tape he told me not to use it that it is no longer in the
electric code. Wonder where I could find that code. He told me that in the
past some people relied on the tape as opposed to making sure that the wire
nut was tight enough. Next time I talk to him I will try and remember to ask
more about it.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Kennedy bobke...@bellsouth.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

Alligator clips and AC current aren't a good idea. There are usually 2
wires inside the unit, a cap with a couple Philips screws is the access
point. Pull the wires out, and run black to black and white to white. I
lay a length of house and disposal wire next to each other and braid the
ends together. Then run a wire nut on the braided part. I always tape
beginning on the wires and out on to the wire nut. Then tuck the wires back
inside as much as possible.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Riddle
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

How does it hook up to the electrical supply? Just alligator clips? How do
you match the wires if it's the latter? Just click them together and hope
for the best?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much to 
installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight area with a 
rather heavy and hard to hold piece.  

  It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink.  I like to run with 2 
inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved.  You can pick up 
a kit at any of the box stores.  It  will have the 2 lines that run up to the 
sink basket, but if you get 1 for a disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop 
line.  You also need to make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the 
same size.  Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of 
extra pressure at that point.

  What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in as well.  
The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some disposals.  If there 
is a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on the drain as well.  An extra 
hole to fill.

  The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink.  They sell a tool 
that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end.  Some have a rod 
already in the other end, others include the rod and you keep track of it.  

  The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to make the 
basket come loose.  If you have a helper, it works nice for them to hold the 
rod while you go under the sink and tap the retainer ring loose.  

  Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new basket goes 
in place.  Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is still silicone sealer 
from the automotive world.  Put a bead around the top side of the sink and set 
the basket in place.  Most likely there will be a gasket that goes on the 
bottom side of the sink, followed by a retainer ring.  You can use the gasket, 
but because I am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little 
sealer on the bottom side of the sink as well.  Tighten the retainer ring and 
the fun can start.  

  I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink.  There are several 
ways I've seen used and they are all a little different.  Most common seems to 
have a spring and catch assembly that you have to thread part of on to the 
bottom of the basket.  Then you twist the disposal until it snaps in place over 
the spring.  There are usually about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from 
vibrating and twisting around.

  Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the disposal and 
to the other side of the sink.  

  If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water for a 
while to check for leaks.

  Finally put the wires together.  Make sure to use the clamp that comes with 
the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the disposal.  Use wire 
nuts to connect the black with the black and white with white.  Carefully stuff 
the wires in place and screw in the cap to cover the opening.  

  If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch.  Listen to 
that new unit come to life.  If nothing happens remember there may be kids 
around before you start preaching and try to figure out what went wrong...  
There may be a circuit breaker on the unit that needs pushed in before it will 
work the first time.

   Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-10 Thread Dan Rossi

The one thing you will need the most of is patience.  If you manage to 
pull off the installation with less than three trips to the hardware 
store, you are lucky.  You will find that none of the pieces of pipe that 
you have, or that came in the kit, will line up, or are the same size, as 
what is currently under your sink.  The ancient piece of crumbling pipe 
that disappears into the wall and into the stack, will defy all attempts 
to accept a fitting and will begin to crumble in your hand as you try. 
You will smash the back of your head on the cabinet frame at least twice 
as you are reaching in and out.  You will wish for a third hand as you try 
to lift the disposal into place and try and line it up with the flange.

Other than that, it is a piece of cake.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

Glad you pointed out what I forgot to say.  Didn't want my message to be a 
total downer but I think this could append to the beginning with a line that 
says If you still want to try this

And if the line crumbles before it goes into the wall, count yourself blessed.  
Many times as I put one in for someone it breaks inside the T inside the wall.  
You become real popular when you tell them, you didn't know that would happen 
and they'll have to put out a bit more money so the bad pieces can be replaced. 
 

When I remodeled my place in Charlotte last summer, I pulled the disposal out 
because I didn't want them calling me saying they don't know what happened but 
it doesn't work.  We're not paying the rent until it works again.  Last time it 
caused a problem some idiot dropped a fork into it while running and it got 
bent around and lodged,, locking it up tight.

At Sears, people kept their MPA in place and instead of fixing them, Sears 
just replaced them.  Before I left I knew of 2 customers that had models from 
1990 and they had paid insurance all those years.  But that's worth replacing 
after you pay for 18 years on something that only costs $150...


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  The one thing you will need the most of is patience. If you manage to 
  pull off the installation with less than three trips to the hardware 
  store, you are lucky. You will find that none of the pieces of pipe that 
  you have, or that came in the kit, will line up, or are the same size, as 
  what is currently under your sink. The ancient piece of crumbling pipe 
  that disappears into the wall and into the stack, will defy all attempts 
  to accept a fitting and will begin to crumble in your hand as you try. 
  You will smash the back of your head on the cabinet frame at least twice 
  as you are reaching in and out. You will wish for a third hand as you try 
  to lift the disposal into place and try and line it up with the flange.

  Other than that, it is a piece of cake.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-10 Thread Scott Howell

Ah, a few other notes. If you connect the dishwasher to the disposal,  
be sure to get a piece of wire etc. and connect it to a bracket under  
the sink so it is higher than the point at which it connects to the  
disposal. Also, some disposals such as the Insinkurator (probably  
spelled wrong) on the models I've used have a ring assembly that  
mounts the unit to the underside of the sink. You have the sink basket  
and a  triangular piece that is held on with a retainer ring. You have  
to get the unit up into place and twist the triangular piece to lock  
to the disposal. Now I know this is a useless description, but all I  
can tell you is you might want to have a large pair of pliers handy  
for pulling the ears together. Either way, I agree that you need some  
sealant top and bottom to avoid a possible leak. Have fun, I have done  
a few of these and managed to do it right after a lot of cursing.

On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote:



 As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much  
 to installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight  
 area with a rather heavy and hard to hold piece.

 It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink. I like to run  
 with 2 inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved.  
 You can pick up a kit at any of the box stores. It will have the 2  
 lines that run up to the sink basket, but if you get 1 for a  
 disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop line. You also need to  
 make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the same size.  
 Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of extra  
 pressure at that point.

 What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in  
 as well. The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some  
 disposals. If there is a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on  
 the drain as well. An extra hole to fill.

 The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink. They sell  
 a tool that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end.  
 Some have a rod already in the other end, others include the rod and  
 you keep track of it.

 The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to  
 make the basket come loose. If you have a helper, it works nice for  
 them to hold the rod while you go under the sink and tap the  
 retainer ring loose.

 Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new  
 basket goes in place. Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is  
 still silicone sealer from the automotive world. Put a bead around  
 the top side of the sink and set the basket in place. Most likely  
 there will be a gasket that goes on the bottom side of the sink,  
 followed by a retainer ring. You can use the gasket, but because I  
 am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little sealer  
 on the bottom side of the sink as well. Tighten the retainer ring  
 and the fun can start.

 I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink. There are  
 several ways I've seen used and they are all a little different.  
 Most common seems to have a spring and catch assembly that you have  
 to thread part of on to the bottom of the basket. Then you twist the  
 disposal until it snaps in place over the spring. There are usually  
 about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from vibrating and  
 twisting around.

 Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the  
 disposal and to the other side of the sink.

 If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water  
 for a while to check for leaks.

 Finally put the wires together. Make sure to use the clamp that  
 comes with the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the  
 disposal. Use wire nuts to connect the black with the black and  
 white with white. Carefully stuff the wires in place and screw in  
 the cap to cover the opening.

 If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch.  
 Listen to that new unit come to life. If nothing happens remember  
 there may be kids around before you start preaching and try to  
 figure out what went wrong... There may be a circuit breaker on the  
 unit that needs pushed in before it will work the first time.

 Good luck
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Riddle
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

 What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the  
 size of the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more  
 specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-10 Thread Rodger Hood

hey Bob I want to get rid of my disposal, how should that be done on a double 
sink with a dishwasher as well?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much to 
installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight area with a 
rather heavy and hard to hold piece. 

  It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink. I like to run with 2 
inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved. You can pick up a 
kit at any of the box stores. It will have the 2 lines that run up to the 
sink basket, but if you get 1 for a disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop 
line. You also need to make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the 
same size. Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of extra 
pressure at that point.

  What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in as well. 
The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some disposals. If there is 
a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on the drain as well. An extra hole to 
fill.

  The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink. They sell a tool 
that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end. Some have a rod 
already in the other end, others include the rod and you keep track of it. 

  The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to make the 
basket come loose. If you have a helper, it works nice for them to hold the rod 
while you go under the sink and tap the retainer ring loose. 

  Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new basket goes 
in place. Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is still silicone sealer from 
the automotive world. Put a bead around the top side of the sink and set the 
basket in place. Most likely there will be a gasket that goes on the bottom 
side of the sink, followed by a retainer ring. You can use the gasket, but 
because I am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little sealer on 
the bottom side of the sink as well. Tighten the retainer ring and the fun can 
start. 

  I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink. There are several 
ways I've seen used and they are all a little different. Most common seems to 
have a spring and catch assembly that you have to thread part of on to the 
bottom of the basket. Then you twist the disposal until it snaps in place over 
the spring. There are usually about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from 
vibrating and twisting around.

  Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the disposal and 
to the other side of the sink. 

  If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water for a 
while to check for leaks.

  Finally put the wires together. Make sure to use the clamp that comes with 
the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the disposal. Use wire 
nuts to connect the black with the black and white with white. Carefully stuff 
the wires in place and screw in the cap to cover the opening. 

  If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch. Listen to 
that new unit come to life. If nothing happens remember there may be kids 
around before you start preaching and try to figure out what went wrong... 
There may be a circuit breaker on the unit that needs pushed in before it will 
work the first time.

  Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

2009-04-10 Thread wstephan

Yeah, and I learned a couple years back that you can't clean quail that still 
have bird shot in them in the kitchen sink and then run the disposal.  I 
replaced it myself, and I'll never ever do that again.


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net 
Phone: (816)803-2469


- Original Message -
From: Bob Kennedy bobke...@bellsouth.net
Date: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:52 am
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal
 Glad you pointed out what I forgot to say.  Didn't want my message 
 to be a total downer but I think this could append to the 
 beginning with a line that says If you still want to try this 
 
 And if the line crumbles before it goes into the wall, count 
 yourself blessed.  Many times as I put one in for someone it 
 breaks inside the T inside the wall.  You become real popular when 
 you tell them, you didn't know that would happen and they'll have 
 to put out a bit more money so the bad pieces can be replaced.  
 
 When I remodeled my place in Charlotte last summer, I pulled the 
 disposal out because I didn't want them calling me saying they 
 don't know what happened but it doesn't work.  We're not paying 
 the rent until it works again.  Last time it caused a problem some 
 idiot dropped a fork into it while running and it got bent around 
 and lodged,, locking it up tight. 
 
 At Sears, people kept their MPA in place and instead of fixing 
 them, Sears just replaced them.  Before I left I knew of 2 
 customers that had models from 1990 and they had paid insurance 
 all those years.  But that's worth replacing after you pay for 18 
 years on something that only costs $150... 
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:25 AM 
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal 
 
 
 
 
 
  The one thing you will need the most of is patience. If you 
 manage to 
  pull off the installation with less than three trips to the 
 hardware 
  store, you are lucky. You will find that none of the pieces of 
 pipe that 
  you have, or that came in the kit, will line up, or are the same 
 size, as 
  what is currently under your sink. The ancient piece of 
 crumbling pipe 
  that disappears into the wall and into the stack, will defy all 
 attempts 
  to accept a fitting and will begin to crumble in your hand as 
 you try. 
  You will smash the back of your head on the cabinet frame at 
 least twice 
  as you are reaching in and out. You will wish for a third hand 
 as you try 
  to lift the disposal into place and try and line it up with the 
 flange. 
  Other than that, it is a piece of cake. 
 
  -- 
  Blue skies. 
  Dan Rossi 
  Carnegie Mellon University. 
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu 
  Tel: (412) 268-9081 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

That's a lot easier than putting one in.  

It still requires picking up a new drain package for under the sink because you 
will need the extra vertical drain pipe.  Just ask the person to get you a set 
that has the stem for a dish washer drain.  

You will also need a new basket for the side where the disposal was.  Either 
that or you'll be left with that funny set of rubber flaps and you'll be 
forever taking the pipes apart to pull stuff out that gets dropped in the sink.

You can reverse the directions I and others have given to take the unit down.  
Just remember they weigh a good bit and you're not at the strongest position 
when you take it down.

I'd put a wire not on each end of the house wires and tape them up.  You may 
have a change of heart one day and want another disposal so I wouldn't cut them.

 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rodger Hood 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal





  hey Bob I want to get rid of my disposal, how should that be done on a double 
sink with a dishwasher as well?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  As long as you already have power in place, there really isn't much to 
installing one if you can get past the pain of working in a tight area with a 
rather heavy and hard to hold piece. 

  It's a good idea to get a new kit for under the sink. I like to run with 2 
inch myself, especially knowing there is a disposal involved. You can pick up a 
kit at any of the box stores. It will have the 2 lines that run up to the 
sink basket, but if you get 1 for a disposal you only need the 1 vertical drop 
line. You also need to make sure the trap and rest of the lines out are the 
same size. Don't go big and step down in size or you will create a lot of extra 
pressure at that point.

  What can make this a pain is if you have a dish washer to plumb in as well. 
The drain kit will have a stem on some, and so will some disposals. If there is 
a stem on the disposal avoid getting one on the drain as well. An extra hole to 
fill.

  The hardest part is removing the old basket from the sink. They sell a tool 
that looks like a long socket with a couple hooks on the end. Some have a rod 
already in the other end, others include the rod and you keep track of it. 

  The hooks will fit in the basket and then you will twist the rod to make the 
basket come loose. If you have a helper, it works nice for them to hold the rod 
while you go under the sink and tap the retainer ring loose. 

  Once the basket is out of the way, you can figure out how the new basket goes 
in place. Have some plumbers putty or my favorite is still silicone sealer from 
the automotive world. Put a bead around the top side of the sink and set the 
basket in place. Most likely there will be a gasket that goes on the bottom 
side of the sink, followed by a retainer ring. You can use the gasket, but 
because I am so familiar with Murphy's law, I will still put a little sealer on 
the bottom side of the sink as well. Tighten the retainer ring and the fun can 
start. 

  I can't tell you how to mount the disposal to the sink. There are several 
ways I've seen used and they are all a little different. Most common seems to 
have a spring and catch assembly that you have to thread part of on to the 
bottom of the basket. Then you twist the disposal until it snaps in place over 
the spring. There are usually about 3 screws to tighten to keep the unit from 
vibrating and twisting around.

  Now you can connect the pipes to the opening on the side of the disposal and 
to the other side of the sink. 

  If you have a dish washer involved, tie it in now and run the water for a 
while to check for leaks.

  Finally put the wires together. Make sure to use the clamp that comes with 
the disposal to hold the house wires to the bottom of the disposal. Use wire 
nuts to connect the black with the black and white with white. Carefully stuff 
the wires in place and screw in the cap to cover the opening. 

  If you made it this far, turn the water on and flip the switch. Listen to 
that new unit come to life. If nothing happens remember there may be kids 
around before you start preaching and try to figure out what went wrong... 
There may be a circuit breaker on the unit that needs pushed in before it will 
work the first time.

  Good luck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Riddle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:26 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] garbage disposal

  What do I need to know to install a garbage disposal? Obviously the size of 
the drain and stuff like that, but anything else more specific? Thanks.

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