Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
also there was a book written by a Doctor Alfred Zamm who talked about sick homes . It is moisture and heat which brings out the fumes more in that artificial boarding. If someone has allergies it might be best to leave that material at the stores. Lee On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 01:13:18PM -0400, Lee A. Stone wrote: > > In many older homes that" stuff" was used for flooring. that is why > say back in the 70's when a mobile home was new it smelled so bad. I > used to pick the dumps back then and a moble home plant was nearby and > they dumped off sections of that over glued board. brought home the > stuff to make shelves. it was tougher to cut with a saw blade and I > think we ujsed the twisted skinny nails to put some downon a floor > which was a big mistake. I am like others here would prefer to use > regular wood. Lee > > > On Thu, Apr > 01, > 2010 at 08:43:00AM > -0500, Dave Andrus > wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > > Your description is the very reason I do not use OSB. We live in a world > > that you can not stop moisture or water. You can not control it either. All > > a home owner can do is channel it. > > > > Now that being said, I would think any paint should close it off and reduce > > the effects of moisture. > > > > Dave A. > > > > P.s. I am a purest, I prefer using the materials that God made, not the > > things that man makes. Real wood help together by nature elects is always > > better than glues. > > > > > > > > Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of > > Jesus > > > > Rev. Dave Andrus, Director > > Lutheran Blind Mission > > 888 215 2455 > > HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG > > > > -Original Message- > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Dan Rossi > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:59 AM > > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification > > > > > > > > Al, > > > > O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and > > particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being > > randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. > > > > The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar > > in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if > > exposed to moisture after it is cut. > > > > Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? > > > > -- > > Blue skies. > > Dan Rossi > > Carnegie Mellon University. > > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> > > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > > > > > > > > -- > CHUBBY CHECKER just had a CHICKEN SANDWICH in downtown DULUTH! -- CHUBBY CHECKER just had a CHICKEN SANDWICH in downtown DULUTH!
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
In many older homes that" stuff" was used for flooring. that is why say back in the 70's when a mobile home was new it smelled so bad. I used to pick the dumps back then and a moble home plant was nearby and they dumped off sections of that over glued board. brought home the stuff to make shelves. it was tougher to cut with a saw blade and I think we ujsed the twisted skinny nails to put some downon a floor which was a big mistake. I am like others here would prefer to use regular wood. Lee On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:43:00AM -0500, Dave Andrus wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Your description is the very reason I do not use OSB. We live in a world > that you can not stop moisture or water. You can not control it either. All > a home owner can do is channel it. > > Now that being said, I would think any paint should close it off and reduce > the effects of moisture. > > Dave A. > > P.s. I am a purest, I prefer using the materials that God made, not the > things that man makes. Real wood help together by nature elects is always > better than glues. > > > > Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of > Jesus > > Rev. Dave Andrus, Director > Lutheran Blind Mission > 888 215 2455 > HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG > > -Original Message- > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Dan Rossi > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:59 AM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification > > > > Al, > > O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and > particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being > randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. > > The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar > in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if > exposed to moisture after it is cut. > > Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? > > -- > Blue skies. > Dan Rossi > Carnegie Mellon University. > E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> > Tel: (412) 268-9081 > > > > -- CHUBBY CHECKER just had a CHICKEN SANDWICH in downtown DULUTH!
RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
If you are using this over a basement floor and moisture can be an issue, I would exchange it for the plywood you ordered originally. Why get into sealing the OSB and still have an issue with moisture? From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:59 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Al, O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if exposed to moisture after it is cut. Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
Hi Dan, Your description is the very reason I do not use OSB. We live in a world that you can not stop moisture or water. You can not control it either. All a home owner can do is channel it. Now that being said, I would think any paint should close it off and reduce the effects of moisture. Dave A. P.s. I am a purest, I prefer using the materials that God made, not the things that man makes. Real wood help together by nature elects is always better than glues. Working together, sharing the light of salvation seen through the cross of Jesus Rev. Dave Andrus, Director Lutheran Blind Mission 888 215 2455 HTTP://WWW.BLINDMISSION.ORG -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:59 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Al, O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if exposed to moisture after it is cut. Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu> Tel: (412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
The main advantage of OSB over plywood is that it is usually cheaper. I think plywood is probably a bit better structurally. Also, some OSB is made without formaldehyde based glues, so can be considered greener than plywood. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
Does OSB have advantages over plywood? Jennifer - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:58 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Al, O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if exposed to moisture after it is cut. Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
Al, O S B is oriented Strand Board. It seems to be a cross between plywood and particle board. It is made up of long strands of wood, but rather than being randomly glued together, the strands are aligned in specific patterns. The How Stuff Works article claims that plywood and OSB are pretty similar in strength and durability, but that OSB is susceptible to swelling if exposed to moisture after it is cut. Does anyone know how to seal cut ends of OSB? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
RE: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
Just a quick question, what does O.S.B. stand for? thanks Al -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of clifford Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:55 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Dear Dan: We always put O. S. B. down, with the long sides crossing at right angles, the joists. The short sides were broken on the center of a joist and screwed at one foot intervals. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson Ps. By the way, I prefer the O. S. B. as a sub-floor. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Does it matter which way you lay down OSB board on the floor joists? Does the long edge have to run parallel to the joists, or doesn't it matter? I laid out the joists with the idea that the short edges would run parallel to the joists, but before I start screwing things down, I want to make sure I don't screw them up. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4989 (20100331) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4989 (20100331) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
Dear Dan: We always put O. S. B. down, with the long sides crossing at right angles, the joists. The short sides were broken on the center of a joist and screwed at one foot intervals. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson Ps. By the way, I prefer the O. S. B. as a sub-floor. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Does it matter which way you lay down OSB board on the floor joists? Does the long edge have to run parallel to the joists, or doesn't it matter? I laid out the joists with the idea that the short edges would run parallel to the joists, but before I start screwing things down, I want to make sure I don't screw them up. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4989 (20100331) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4989 (20100331) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
I go about 8 inches along the joists. This isn't precise, my hand span from thumb tip to little finger tip is a little over 9 inches so a slightly slack hand is about 8. Seems to be enough. Modern "monolithic" construction includes construction adhesive it does keep squeaks minimized. If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification I got tung and groove OSB. I ordered quote 3/4 tung and groove plywood quote but they delivered OSB. I had been talking to the guy I was ordering from, and told him it was for a sub floor. I also mentioned that I was not an experienced carpenter, and he may have made some assumptions. I think I would have preferred plywood. I went with 3/4 just because I am being paranoid about the rigidity of the floor because these are 2X4 joists on the flat with a bunch of blocking. The joists feel very solid while I am walking around on them, but I did not glue the blocking to the cement floor, so I am hoping the decking will help keep the joists rigidly in position. What kind of screw or nail spacing should I use along the joists? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
I got tung and groove OSB. I ordered quote 3/4 tung and groove plywood quote but they delivered OSB. I had been talking to the guy I was ordering from, and told him it was for a sub floor. I also mentioned that I was not an experienced carpenter, and he may have made some assumptions. I think I would have preferred plywood. I went with 3/4 just because I am being paranoid about the rigidity of the floor because these are 2X4 joists on the flat with a bunch of blocking. The joists feel very solid while I am walking around on them, but I did not glue the blocking to the cement floor, so I am hoping the decking will help keep the joists rigidly in position. What kind of screw or nail spacing should I use along the joists? -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
With OSB it doesn't really matter. Usually one uses plywood, it is superior in every respect and it matters because you want the grain running perpendicular to the joists for maximum strength. Some of that OSB is also 49 by 97 inches which is a pain in the proverbial. Some OSB has a waxed side though, if yours does you want it up to help shed any moisture. Really though, plywood is superior and you can buy it for flooring with tongue & groove edges. 5/8ths is thick enough on 16 inch centers and a bunch lighter to haul up those stairs If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: Blind Handyman List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] orientification Does it matter which way you lay down OSB board on the floor joists? Does the long edge have to run parallel to the joists, or doesn't it matter? I laid out the joists with the idea that the short edges would run parallel to the joists, but before I start screwing things down, I want to make sure I don't screw them up. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] orientification
If you got toung and groove OSB, it makes no difference. However, if you didn't, you want the 8' side to run with the joists. You will need to suppport all edges of the OSB between the joists. With the piece running lengthwise, you have less extra work to do. Terry On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT)you write: > >Does it matter which way you lay down OSB board on the floor joists? > >Does the long edge have to run parallel to the joists, or doesn't it >matter? I laid out the joists with the idea that the short edges would >run parallel to the joists, but before I start screwing things down, I >want to make sure I don't screw them up. > > >-- >Blue skies. >Dan Rossi >Carnegie Mellon University. >E-Mail:d...@andrew.cmu.edu >Tel: (412) 268-9081 >
