Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-02-06 Thread James Key
Did anyone have a work around for this, or is it just a limitation?

Running into the same issue with the bandwidth total command.

James Key


From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Chris Parker 
[cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:34 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
allow a g711 call it'll work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
 gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

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 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

I think we are on to something. Here is what I get with the ras debug 
turned on:


BR2#debug ras
H.323 RAS Messages debugging is on
BR2#h323chan_dgram_send:Sent UDP msg. Bytes sent: 83 to 
172.16.101.1:1719 fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.172 CET: RASLib::GW_RASSendRRQ: RRQ (seq# 3729) sent to 
172.16.101.1

.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=2 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: h323chan_dgram_recvdata:rcvd from 
[172.16.101.1:1719] on fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:55.180 CET: RCF (seq# 3729) rcvd
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECT_PENDING has data

.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=0 of type 
LISTENING has data

.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.404 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=3


.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.408 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4

h323chan_dgram_send:Sent UDP msg. Bytes sent: 119 to 172.16.101.1:1719 fd=2

.Jan 14 15:28:56.412 CET: RASLib::GW_RASSendARQ: ARQ (seq# 3730) sent to 
172.16.101.1

.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=2 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: h323chan_dgram_recvdata:rcvd from 
[172.16.101.1:1719] on fd=2


.Jan 14 15:28:56.420 CET: ARJ (seq# 3730) rcvdparse_arj_nonstd: ARJ 
Nonstd decode succeeded, remlen = 1

.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=3 of type 
CONNECTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.424 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=3


.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4


.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: fd=4 of type 
ACCEPTED has data
.Jan 14 15:28:56.436 CET: h323chan_chn_process_read_socket: h323chan 
accepted/connected fd=4




Vik Malhi wrote:
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

--
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

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*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I 
must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on 
my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to 
allow a g711 call it'll work?


Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

--
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

_
Join our free online support and peer group communities:
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*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
pre-ietf TextRelay: off
media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a







Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
yup.  Gatekeeper looks at g711ulaw as 2 (64k) call legs for a total of 128.
Thanks,
ryan Trauernicht

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Vik,

 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must
 be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?

 Chris


 Vik Malhi wrote:

 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the bandwidth
 total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste the
 output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE
 RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and
 CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a







Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the 
GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value less 
than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a dial 
peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to the GK. 
I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it is the 
normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are required to 
do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one zone, you 
have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a single zone 
there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this 
problem first time.

Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be 
running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as well. 
It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 call it'll 
work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
 gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, 
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco 
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE 
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 --
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP 
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00 
 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] 
 tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n 
 long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 
 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit 
 (34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms 
 g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl 
 rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur 
 callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a






Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Cyrus:
 
I could not find any other solution, is the way it works, when is one zone and 
you have an specific CAC requirement, I would suggest to use the interzone 
command, however for one zone it does nothing.
 
Regards,
 
Jose



From: Cyrus [mailto:cyrus@gmail.com] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 11:15 AM
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Cc: Chris Parker; Vik Malhi; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers


Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through. BACD 
needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one 
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that : 

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone 
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144 

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new 
idea to do this





On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:


Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an 
ARQ to the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a 
value less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are 
using a dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an 
ARQ to the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a 
bug, it is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor 
are required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than 
one zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a 
single zone there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I 
saw this problem first time.


Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]

Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I 
must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK 
as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 
call it'll work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
 gatekeeper).
 --
 Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.







 --
 --
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Hi Chris:

 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

 Regards,

 Jose


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through.
BACD needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that :

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new
idea to do this




On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) 
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:

 Hi Chris:

 The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to
 the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value
 less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a
 dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to
 the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug,
 it is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor
 are required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more
 than one zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when
 you have a single zone there is no CAC requirement.

 Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw
 this problem first time.

 Regards,

 Jose

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
 To: Vik Malhi
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Vik,

 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must
 be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?

 Chris

 Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
  Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
  Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
  _
  Join our free online support and peer group communities:
  _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
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  Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
  CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
  Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  --
  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00
  tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0]
  tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n
  long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1
  +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit
  (34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms
  g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl
  rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur
  callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a
 
 
 




-- 
Sirus Moghadasian
CCIE #21862 (RS)


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Thanks Jose,

Strange stuff to say the least... My GK config is multizone so I will 
adjust my bandwidth statements accordingly.


Chris

Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) wrote:

Hi Chris:

The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the 
GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value less 
than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a dial 
peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to the GK. 
I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it is the 
normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are required to 
do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one zone, you 
have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a single zone 
there is no CAC requirement.

Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this 
problem first time.

Regards,

Jose

-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us] 
Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM

To: Vik Malhi
Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vik,

When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be 
running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as well. It is set 
to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 call it'll work?

Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:
  
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the 
bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.


Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste 
the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a 
gatekeeper).

--
Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com

_
Join our free online support and peer group communities:
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Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.








--
--
*From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
*Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
*To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

*Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


-Original Message-
From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP 
phones. Here is my config:


voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004 dur 00:00:00 
tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34)) Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] 
tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm long duration call detected:n 
long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 
+30 pid:3501 Originate 3500 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit 
(34)) IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms 
g729r8 pre-ietf TextRelay: off media inactive detected:n media contrl 
rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a long duration call detected:n long dur 
callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a









  




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



-- 
Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


Join our free online support and peer group communities:
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Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
Lab Certifications.







 From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
 To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Vik,
 
 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
 must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
 my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
 allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
 Chris
 
 Vik Malhi wrote:
 Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
 bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
 Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
 the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
 gatekeeper).
 -- 
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 _
 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
 CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
 Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
 *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Hi Chris:
 
 Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jose
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
 phones. Here is my config:
 
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323
 
 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 
 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Yeah. 128 will be enough for calls made locally from the CME phones though.
-- 
Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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Lab Certifications.








From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:15:07 +1100
To: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
Cc: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com,
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hey ,

If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through.
BACD needs at least 144 to work properly.

The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one
128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK)

The question is if requirement be like that :

-the minimum configuration lines to GK work properly - so 1 zone
should be used

-use cac to limit your call to sth less than 144

- run BACD on CME

Is there any way to accomplish this?

I couldn't find a way myself. It would be great if someone comes up with new
idea to do this




On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
jlin...@cisco.com wrote:
 Hi Chris:
 
 The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to
 the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value
 less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a
 dial peer with session target a loopback IP address, does it send an ARQ to
 the GK. I was reading a lot trying to find the answer, and it is not a bug, it
 is the normal behaviour, the recommendation for a one zone GK when yor are
 required to do CAC is to configure at least 128k, when you have more than one
 zone, you have to use the interzone command, and generally, when you have a
 single zone there is no CAC requirement.
 
 Maybe Vik have another point of view, but that is what I found when I saw this
 problem first time.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jose
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
 Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 9:34 AM
 To: Vik Malhi
 Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero); ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
 Vik,
 
 When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be
 running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as
 well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711
 call it'll work?
 
 Chris
 
 Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
  Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
  Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
  _
  Join our free online support and peer group communities:
  _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
  _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
  Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
  CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
  Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  --
  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 12560ms

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
if I'm wrong

128+16 for incoming calls from WAN

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?

 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...

 AND


 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...


 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.

 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself-
 the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.

 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



 --
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


 Join our free online support and peer group communities:
 http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
 IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
 Video-On-Demand
 and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE
 Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage
 Lab Certifications.







  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
  Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
  Mailto: _vma...@ipexpert.com
 
  _
  Join our free online support and peer group communities:
  _http://www.IPexpert.com/communities
  _IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based,
  Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco
  CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE
  Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
  CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not from my IP
  phones. Here is my config:
 
  voice service voip
  allow-connections h323 to h323
 
  dial-peer voice 3500 pots
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  port 0/2/0:23
  !
  dial-peer voice 3501 voip
  destination-pattern 3500
  session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
  !
  dial-peer voice 3502 voip
  service aa
  incoming called-number 3500
  dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
  codec g711ulaw
  no vad
 
  Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit
 
  128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
  dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22 (no circuit (34))
  Telephony 50/0/4

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker

Vik,

Makes complete sense. What if the voip peers used the SIP protocol? In 
that case I guess the GK would not be involved?


Chris

Vik Malhi wrote:

Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



  




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA and
also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).
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From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
if I'm wrong

128+16 for incoming calls from WAN

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:
 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)
 
 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?
 
 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...
 
 AND
 
 
 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...
 
 
 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.
 
 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).
 
 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself- the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.
 
 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.
 
 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.
 
 
 
 --
 Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
 
 
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  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the
  bandwidth total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.
 
  Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste
  the output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a
  gatekeeper).
  --
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  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 
  Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
  Fax: +1.810.454.0130
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  *From: *Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
  *Date: *Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
  *To: *Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Hi Chris:
 
  Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
  To: ccie_voice

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic,

Loppback solution is *only* used as a workaround for invoking Xcoder
.Because calling from WAN to CME and then hitting AA would not force CME to
involve Xcoder.

So as a workaround we direct traffic to the loopback thus CME and Xcoder and
then AA will come to play.


Here is the proof.

GK with setup of G711 .


voice translation-rule 800
 rule 1 /6667878/ //

voice translation-profile INCOMING_GK
 translate called 1

dial-peer voice 800 voip
service aa
 translation-profile incoming INCOMING_GK
incoming called-number 6667878
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711u
 no vad

sh gatekeeper call

LocalCallIDAge(secs)   BW
138-14 13  128(Kbps)
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   src EP: GK_TRUNK_12001
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.0.1 3345  140.0.0.1 3245
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   dst EP: CME6667878
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.3.2541720  140.0.3.25449270


Opbviously  ARQ does not comes into play adn we need just 128 for G711 .

This way Service aa kicking in and work properly with out loopback solution.


Cyrus

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

  The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA and
 also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).
 --
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 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: *vma...@ipexpert.com

 *
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 --
 *From: *Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
 *To: *Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 *Cc: *ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

 Vic,

 Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the
 Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution.

 But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please correct me
 if I'm wrong

 128+16 for incoming calls from WAN


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

 What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered
 to GK?

 Dial-peer voice 1 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ras
  ...

 AND


 Dial-peer voice 2 voip
  destination-pattern 1...
  session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
  ...


 When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth Request
 and also a called # that needs resolving.

 When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also a VOIP
 call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
 though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

 With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to himself-
 the
 Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the inbound
 voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP call can
 take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross-reference
 locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

 So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the bandwidth
 request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you since
 the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth required is
 going to be 128kbps.

 Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



 --
 Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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  From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
  Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:34:13 -0500
  To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
  Cc: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com,
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers
 
  Vik,
 
  When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I
  must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on
  my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to
  allow a g711 call it'll work?
 
  Chris
 
  Vik Malhi wrote:
  Jose is about

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Loopback solution is required for invoking the xcoder for calls from  
the WAN. However here is the bit I think you might be missing. The  
loopback solution is also required for Cme phones calling the AA and  
it is for this latter call I was originally focused on.


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On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com wrote:


Vic,

Loppback solution is only used as a workaround for invoking  
Xcoder .Because calling from WAN to CME and then hitting AA would  
not force CME to involve Xcoder.


So as a workaround we direct traffic to the loopback thus CME and  
Xcoder and then AA will come to play.



Here is the proof.

GK with setup of G711 .


voice translation-rule 800
 rule 1 /6667878/ //

voice translation-profile INCOMING_GK
 translate called 1

dial-peer voice 800 voip
service aa
 translation-profile incoming INCOMING_GK
incoming called-number 6667878
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711u
 no vad

sh gatekeeper call

LocalCallIDAge(secs)   BW
138-14 13  128(Kbps)
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   src EP: GK_TRUNK_12001
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.0.1 3345  140.0.0.1 3245
 Endpt(s): Alias E.164Addr
   dst EP: CME6667878
   CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port
   140.0.3.2541720  140.0.3.25449270


Opbviously  ARQ does not comes into play adn we need just 128 for  
G711 .


This way Service aa kicking in and work properly with out loopback  
solution.



Cyrus

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com  
wrote:
The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA  
and also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128).

--
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Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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From: Cyrus cyrus@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:13:45 +1100
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Vic,

Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the  
Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback  
solution.


But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK,  please  
correct me if I'm wrong


128+16 for incoming calls from WAN


On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com  
wrote:

Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?)

What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway  
registered

to GK?

Dial-peer voice 1 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ras
 ...

AND


Dial-peer voice 2 voip
 destination-pattern 1...
 session target ipv4:Loopback0 IP Address
 ...


When peer 1 is used an ARQ is sent to GK- it contains a bandwdidth  
Request

and also a called # that needs resolving.

When peer 2 is used an ARQ is also sent to the GK since this is also  
a VOIP

call on a gateway to a gatkeeper- it contains just a bandwidth request
though since we already did the resolution on the gateway (Lo0).

With the B-ACD call we all know that we are sending the call to  
himself- the
Loopback interface- as a workaround to invoke service aa on the  
inbound
voip dial-peer. However the gateway/gk is master/slave and no VOIP  
call can
take place without GK's authorization. The gateway doesn't cross- 
reference

locally configured ip addresses for every session target.

So even though the call is local GK still needs to accept the  
bandwidth
request. And this is where bandwidth total ... 128 would hurt you  
since
the B-ACD call will always use g711ulaw and the INTRA-bandwidth  
required is

going to be 128kbps.

Bandwidth total and B-ACD are dangerous for this reason.



--
Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584
Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com


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CCIE
Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE  
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Lab Certifications.







 From: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Date: Wed

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Parker
I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not  from  my IP  
phones. Here is my config:


voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
destination-pattern 3500
session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a 
timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500

dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8 
pre-ietf TextRelay: off

 media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
 long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-13 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards, 

Jose


 -Original Message-
From:   Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent:   Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject:[OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on 
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not  from  my IP  
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a 
timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8 
pre-ietf TextRelay: off
  media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a




Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-13 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
I always combine the voips..
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
service aa
destination-pattern 3500
incoming called-number 3500
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
no vad
ip qos dscp cs3 sign


then prob need to do a

call application voice load aa
call application voice load acd

What does your BACD commands look like and what are you trying to
accomplist... drop through or _welcome_prompt?

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht



On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on CME.
 I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not  from  my IP  phones.
 Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a128F
 : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
  media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-13 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Good point Jose
If the CME is registered to the GK and you have BW restrictions to 32k or
something lower then 128 the call will never complete.

Even though the voip dial peer is not a ras it will still as the GK for bw
limitations.

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Ryan Trauernicht
ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I always combine the voips..
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 destination-pattern 3500
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 ip qos dscp cs3 sign


 then prob need to do a

 call application voice load aa
 call application voice load acd

 What does your BACD commands look like and what are you trying to
 accomplist... drop through or _welcome_prompt?

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht



 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
 CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not  from  my IP
  phones. Here is my config:

 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

 dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
 !
 dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
 !
 dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

 Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

 128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
 timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
 pre-ietf TextRelay: off
  media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a






Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-13 Thread Vik Malhi
Jose is about to bring a very complicated problem with using the bandwidth
total command inside gatekeeper and how it impacts B-ACD.

Chris- please make the call to the B-ACD AA from a CME phone and paste the
output of debug ras (assuming the router is registered to a gatekeeper).
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From: Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) jlin...@cisco.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:03:59 -0500
To: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

Hi Chris:

Is this router registered to a gatekeeper?.

Regards,

Jose


 -Original Message-
From:   Chris Parker [mailto:cpar...@cparker.us]
Sent:   Tuesday, January 13, 2009 09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject:[OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

I have had problems getting BACD to dial using voip from the phones on
CME. I can dial into the BACD fine from the PSTN, but not  from  my IP
phones. Here is my config:

voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323

dial-peer voice 3500 pots
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 port 0/2/0:23
!
dial-peer voice 3501 voip
 destination-pattern 3500
 session target ipv4:172.16.101.3
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad
!
dial-peer voice 3502 voip
 service aa
 incoming called-number 3500
 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
 codec g711ulaw
 no vad

Eveytime I call the number I get no circuit

128A : 67 12560ms.53 +-1 +3280 pid:20004 Answer 3004
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 Telephony 50/0/4 (67) [50/0/4.0] tx:0/0/0ms None noise:0dBm acom:0dBm
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a
timestamp:n/a128F : 71 125594800ms.54 +-1 +30 pid:3501 Originate 3500
 dur 00:00:00 tx:0/0 rx:0/0 22  (no circuit (34))
 IP 0.0.0.0:0 SRTP: off rtt:0ms pl:0/0ms lost:0/0/0 delay:0/0/0ms g729r8
pre-ietf TextRelay: off
  media inactive detected:n media contrl rcvd:n/a timestamp:n/a
  long duration call detected:n long dur callduration :n/a timestamp:n/a