RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

Come on Vince  until you get up to the full library of CFML then its
worth paying for :-)

-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon

> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
> > If you're interested, just use the default Apache 
> installation, then 
> > download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download 
> > BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install 
> them in order 
> > (Apache, Tomcat, BlueDragon) - Now you can serve CFML from your Mac.
> 
> You can now download JRun 4 for Mac OS X and CFMX for J2EE (JRun) for 
> Mac OS X. That let's you serve CFMX-compatible CFML from your Mac.
> 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> 


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RE: Locking cffile

[webguy]

No cf does not lock the file for you. In fact you'll need to use an
exclusive lock. If you are doing alot of logging to file I would recommend
using the cflog tag. This tag is built on top of log4j which is an open
source java based logging lib (http://jakarta.apache.org) It handles issues
like locking, using optimistic locking and lots more too! If cflog doesn't
crumble your biscuit, you chould build your own tag using the log4j.


WG

> -Original Message-
> From: Webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 05:23
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Locking cffile
>
>
> Anyone know if cffile handles contention/locking for you.  In
> other words, I
> have an application that logs everything it does to a file.  Lets
> say I have
> 5 cfm pages in the app.  Each page will do a write to the log file.  So,
> what if all 5 pages are trying to write to the file at the same time?
> (multiple CPUs and threads)  Will cffile handle the contention
> for you.  If
> not, what do you need to do?  I don't think cflock is the answer..
>
>
>
> 
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include_once (PHP)

[Harry Klein]

Would it be possible to implement this PHP functions in ColdFusion?

"include_once() and require_once(). they will include() or require() the
requested file only if the requested file has not yet been included
previously during the processing of the current request. That way, your
code will only require a function library _once() during a request."

Harry Klein
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RE: include_once (PHP)

[A.Little]

Yes, not quite as easy as in php though. The logic I've used before goes
something like:








HTH

Alex

> -Original Message-
> From: Harry Klein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 10:00
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: include_once (PHP)
> 
> 
> Would it be possible to implement this PHP functions in ColdFusion?
> 
> "include_once() and require_once(). they will include() or 
> require() the
> requested file only if the requested file has not yet been included
> previously during the processing of the current request. That 
> way, your
> code will only require a function library _once() during a request."
> 
> Harry Klein
> 
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Re: Free enterprise manager application

[Jochem van Dieten]

Quoting Pablo Varando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I'm about 70% complete on it and it has full IIS/Microsoft FTP (Create,
> delete, edit sites/ftps on the fly), Imail (full support to create
> accounts, lists, users, etc), SQL Tool to create tables, users, databases on
> the fly, etc..

Does it support some SQL standard way or is it geared towards 1 dbms?

Jochem

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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Joshua Miller]

You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly, I
want that kind of control, I happen to like the command-line. However,
many, many Mac users are not hardcore Unix users - not yet anyway. A lot
of them are still skeptical of the Terminal as it's been unknown to them
until OSX came out.

I just think an option would be good ... For those of us who want the
control we could certainly have it, but provide an installer that works
like most other Mac apps. You don't really have to dive into the
Terminal to install Dreamweaver and that's what most Mac users are used
to at this point.

At any rate, it's only a small suggestion. I don't think anyone on this
list has had any issues with the installation routine - it certainly
beats the "compile on Linux" method that Dick came up with. It's not a
hard install, just not what a lot of Mac users are going to be familiar
with.

By the way, you can just double-click on that JAR file instead of
typing: java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar

I'm still stunned it's available, any installation routine makes me
happy right now :)

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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
> One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the 
> installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are 
> still getting comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a

> lot of developers who don't have a lot of experience with server 
> installation and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions 
> and editing config files, have an option for "basic install" that does

> all these things for you.

Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved 
here?

I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as 
some people might expect but it really isn't that bad:

java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar

(run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder somewhere)

In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx).

Then:

cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx
jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war

Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install 
is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect...

Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com
An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog

ColdFusion MX and JRun 4 now available for Mac OS X!
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RE: Free enterprise manager application

[Jochem van Dieten]

Quoting Samuel Neff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I think this would really be best with a Flash front end.  If you go
> that route, I'm in.

I think Flash would be great for this, since I believe this would eventually
eliminate the need for a CF/ASP/PHP middle layer.

The way I see it, eventually there will be some standards that will turn a
database server into a webservice. No longer accessing a database using a
propietary protocol, but simply using SOAP/XML/WSDL etc. Probably as an
alternate method next to whatever a dbms uses now because XML is bloated for
structured data, but eventually it will be there (I believe some key concepts
are already under way in SQL:200x-13 and SQLX).
How cool would it be if Flash could talk directly to the database without
anything in between? For the connection parameters you just give the IP, port,
username and password and you are connected to whatever database is running
there. And then the database is accessed directly through a webservice,
capacities can be interrogated using WSDL and the INFORMATION_SCHEMA and you
have a truly cross-platform admin tool.

Jochem

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RE: Free enterprise manager application

[webguy]

In fact I believe that figleaf have developed such a tool and will be using
it as an example application for figleaf flash training courses.

Its called, wait for it the "Data Access for SQL Tool of Justice" and I
believe it will be made available for free !!!

Have I look at a mail from Steve Drucker to this list for details.

WG

>Quoting Samuel Neff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I think this would really be best with a Flash front end.  If you go
> > that route, I'm in.
>
> I think Flash would be great for this, since I believe this would
> eventually
> eliminate the need for a CF/ASP/PHP middle layer.
>

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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Jochem van Dieten]

Quoting Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
> Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server

Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ...

Jochem

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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Dick Applebaum]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
>> One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the  
>> installation
>> proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
>> comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of
>> developers who don't have a lot of experience with server installation
>> and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions and editing
>> config files, have an option for "basic install" that does all these
>> things for you.
>
> Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved
> here?
>
> I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as
> some people might expect but it really isn't that bad:
>
>   java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar
>
> (run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder somewhere)
>

I would at least change the default folder (directory).  Currently, the  
CFMF installer uses:

/opt

which is hidden on Jaguar (Jag-wire, as pronounced by Steve)


> In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx).
>
> Then:
>   cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx
mkdir cfusion
  mkdir CFIDE
  cd CFIDE
  jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/rds.war
  cd ../cfusion
>   jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war
>

Then there is the step (step 9) configuring graphics support -- which I  
have found to be unnecessary, and can be ignored.

> Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install
> is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect...

I agree with this for experienced Unix users. This is especially true  
if you deploy multiple server instances and/or multiple cfmx contexts  
under a server instance.

But I think some things that could be done to make it simpler and more  
Mac like (in the next update).  Have the default option (procdure):

1) Deploy from a single .ear file rather than 2 .war files
2) Hot deploy from the JRun JMC (maybe using the compressed,  
downloaded CFMX file as a source -- avoid the decompress and war/ear  
decision, altogether.
3) Include instructions on how to create a connector to Apache in  
the install procedure.

Finally, make as much of the install procedure as possible automatic  
for first time users by providing a shell script and/or  
double-clickabble program with all the defaults set and the proper  
actions taken to install/deplow a single server with a single cfmx  
context and a single CFIDE context -- a "quick-start" option.

I especially like the way that JRun installs:

 Download
 Automatic Decompress
 Double-Click Installer
 Default path = /Applications/JRun4

(This coming from the guy who built the "Ugly Port" procedure)

But, like Joshua and others have said, I am happy with what MM has  
provided) -- It is no more difficult than installing/deploying other  
applications.

Dick







>
> Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Dick Applebaum]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 03:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

> Quoting Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
>> Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
>
> Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ...

Well, rumor has it that

I have been told by others on this list that per-CPU charges are normal  
for this type of application,

And, that if you are deploying on robust installations with multiple  
boxes/CPUs, that support is more of a cost consideration than  
acquisition cost.

All things being equal, lower costs would be better.  But  
BlueDragon/Tomcat does not equal CFMXJ2EE/Tomcat or CFMXJ2EE/JRun -- so  
acquisition cost is only one parameter in the decision.

Interesting, though, the Mac OS Server software does not charge per CPU  
-- here's a quote from the apple site:

No per-user “taxes”
Xserve lets you eliminate the most galling expense in your department’s  
budget: the per-user “tax” you’ve been obliged to pay for using server  
software. Since Xserve comes with an unlimited-client license for the  
UNIX-based, industrial-strength Mac OS X Server, you can serve  
thousands of additional users — without spending thousands of  
additional dollars in licensing fees.

I assume that this is similar to Linux, and one of the reasons that  
Linux is attractive to large users.

Dick

>
> Jochem
>
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Free enterprise manager application

[Josen Ruiseco]

Hi Pablo,

I spoke with you about this offline. I'd like to see a demo of what you have. I'm 
debating the purchase of your previous control panel or waiting for this one. Getting 
a first look would help me make that decision.

Josen Ruiseco
GoMotorsports.com
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RE: stupid newbie tricks

[Bill Grover]

Just to throw in my penny's worth, and maybe learn something new at the same
time.  I just wrote my first application using the new security.  Here's
what I did, and I must admit some of it I pulled together from Ray Camden's
presentations and the documentation.  Hopefully I don't have to many bad
practices in it!
__ 

Bill Grover 
Supervisor MIS  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324  
EU Services, Inc.   FAX:301.424.3696
649 North Horners Lane  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW:http://www.euservices.com
__ 

The last lines of my application.cfm file are:





My Login.cfm file is:



 






























My GetLogin.cfm file is:








#APPLICATION.cTitle#





Please enter your login information.









 






User:





Password:


















> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Miessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: stupid newbie tricks
> 
> 
> Thank you I will use the full path.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: stupid newbie tricks
> 
> Dave Watts wrote:
> > 
> > You can simplify this as shown here:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I would caution using against using contain. If your 
> webserver adheres 
> strictly to the formal definition of a URL, the URL 
> "http://domain.com/index.cfm;login"; might return a script_name of 
> "index.cfm;login", which would be very undesirable.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CFServer Problem

[John Allred]

I can't turn them on, since they are off. I don't know if Siteminder
Services are the cause, or whether the problem is simply coincidental,
but when I attempt to access my datasources through the database tab
within Studio, I am unable to do so (hence, unable to view tables or
construct queries), and I receive the following message:

"An error occurred accessing ColdFusion Server: The authentication
failed."


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> do you really need Siteminder-services ?
> If not can you switch them off ?
> What happens then ?
> Uwe
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> Monday, January 6, 2003, 7:12:56 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JA> Good thought, Uwe, but I've run 4.01 under Win2K for a year and a half
> JA> without a hiccup. But, thanks anyway. My suspicions run toward the IIS
> JA> Metabase or some Windows .dll that got corrupted. Whatever files the two
> JA> Siteminder apps depend on have been corrupted, or something is
> JA> preventing them from being installed.
> 
> JA> -John
> 
> JA> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> John, I might be wrong,
> >> but as far as I know 4, Win2k is unsupported
> >> by CF 4.01
> >> I think you must run at least 4.5.x
> >> Uwe
> >>
> >> Hello John,
> >>
> >> Monday, January 6, 2003, 6:15:30 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> JA> Me again.
> >>
> >> JA> I've been working for several days to repair whatever problem has
> >> JA> mangled my ColdFusion installation. I've uninstalled everything related
> >> JA> to CF that I can find, cleaned up the registry, uninstalled IIS,
> >> JA> reinstalled Windows, reinstalled IIS, reinstalled ColdFusion, and I
> >> JA> continue to have the same problem.
> >>
> >> JA> In addition I've spent considerable time on both Microsoft's and
> >> JA> Macromedia's web sites and in the books.
> >>
> >> JA> So I throw myself on the mercy of you guys. There has to be an expert
> >> JA> who's faced a similar problem and who can point me in the right
> >> JA> direction.
> >>
> >> JA> I'm running:
> >> JA> Win2K Pro (plenty of RAM and disk space - no current registry errors)
> >> JA> IIS 5.0 - The server displays its default files and help system, so I
> >> JA> know it's running okay.
> >> JA> I had MDAC 2.7, but I think my most recent reinstallation of CF may have
> >> JA> reinstalled MDAC 2.0 (but reinstalling 2.7 doesn't change the situation)
> >> JA> CF 4.01
> >>
> >> JA> This is the error message I get in Windows Events:
> >>
> >> JA> The SiteMinder Authentication Service service failed to start due to the
> >> JA> following error:
> >> JA> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> JA> Authorization Service is not running either. It displays:
> >>
> >> JA> The SiteMinder Authorization Service service failed to start due to the
> >> JA> following error:
> >> JA> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> JA> For both, Windows displays Event ID: 7000
> >>
> >> JA> My choices are to call Microsoft ($$), call Macromedia ($$), or take my
> >> JA> computer to a local repair shop ($$).
> >>
> >> JA> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> >> JA> John
> >> JA>
> >>
> JA>
> 
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CFMX Linux Whitespace Management problem

[mike . wokasch]

Well, it's annoyed me enough now that I have to ask the question.

Has anyone else had a problem with CFMX not obeying the "whitespace management" 
setting?  It seems to work ok on systems running windows, but our new linux server 
seems to just ignore the setting.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Thanks
Mike Wokasch
UW-Extension.

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increment a count in a db

[Cutter (CF_Talk)]

It was probably a month or so ago someone showed how to increment a 
count in a database with a single query, but I can't find it in the 
archive. Can someone show me the way here please?

Table:tblSubscribe
 int:intChoiceID
 str:strChoice
 int:intCount

Update intCount for selected strChoice as intCount + 1

???

Cutter

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RE: increment a count in a db

[Mike Townend]

UPDATE tblSubscribe
SET intCount = intCount + 1
WHERE intChoiceID = 12

?

HTH



-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CF_Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2003 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: increment a count in a db


It was probably a month or so ago someone showed how to increment a 
count in a database with a single query, but I can't find it in the 
archive. Can someone show me the way here please?

Table:tblSubscribe
 int:intChoiceID
 str:strChoice
 int:intCount

Update intCount for selected strChoice as intCount + 1

???

Cutter


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Re: increment a count in a db

[Jesse Houwing]

Cutter (CF_Talk) wrote:

>It was probably a month or so ago someone showed how to increment a 
>count in a database with a single query, but I can't find it in the 
>archive. Can someone show me the way here please?
>
>Table:tblSubscribe
> int:intChoiceID
> str:strChoice
> int:intCount
>
>Update intCount for selected strChoice as intCount + 1
>
update tblSubscribe set intcount=intcount+1 where strChoice=?

>
>???
>
>Cutter
>
>
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RE: stupid newbie tricks

[jochemd]

Quoting Bill Grover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
>
>   
> 
> 
> 


There used to be an issue with cflogin and cflogout where you needed to put the
cflogout after the cflogin or users would get mixed up when they logged out and
back in again (I think). Not sure if it is resolved yet?

Jochem
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Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?

[James Blaha]

Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?

Hello All:

Can someone please send me an example of how to use JS in a framed page 
where there are at least two pages (A & B) and the button to print is in 
(A) and when clicked it will print the Contents of whats in (B).

*
* (A) | (B) *
*

Thanks in advance,
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Re: increment a count in a db

[jochemd]

Quoting "Cutter (CF_Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> Table:tblSubscribe
>  int:intChoiceID
>  str:strChoice
>  int:intCount
> 
> Update intCount for selected strChoice as intCount + 1

UPDATE tblSubscribe
SETintCount = intCount + 1
WHERE  strChoice = 

Jochem

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5 week rotation

[Kennerly, Rick H CIV]

Seems like someone did this sometime in the recent past, but I couldn't find
it in the archives. 

I have 5 fixed-text items in a database that need to rotate display on a
weekly basis, rotating weekly on Monday (week one: item one; week two, item
two).  Obviously the purpose of having 5 items is so that the same piece is
not displayed on the same week of the month every month (they rotate forward
one week each month). It's not an ad, it's a lunch menu.  I can't work out
an query that will work.  

Any elegant query ideas?  Okay, any ideas at all? 

Rick   

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RE: stupid newbie tricks

[jochemd]

As for the rest, you are long overdue on removing the words stupid and newbie
from the subject line :-)

Jochem


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[Resolved]: increment a count in a db

[Cutter (CF_Talk)]

Many thanks to those who responded, this was exactly what (and when) I 
needed.

Cutter

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Quoting "Cutter (CF_Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  
>
>>Table:tblSubscribe
>> int:intChoiceID
>> str:strChoice
>> int:intCount
>>
>>Update intCount for selected strChoice as intCount + 1
>>
>>
>
>UPDATE tblSubscribe
>SETintCount = intCount + 1
>WHERE  strChoice = 
>
>Jochem
>
>
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RE: 5 week rotation

[Everett, Al]

If you have the menus in an Array numbered 1 through 5, you could do
something like:



> -Original Message-
> From: Kennerly, Rick H CIV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: 5 week rotation
> 
> 
> Seems like someone did this sometime in the recent past, but 
> I couldn't find
> it in the archives. 
> 
> I have 5 fixed-text items in a database that need to rotate 
> display on a
> weekly basis, rotating weekly on Monday (week one: item one; 
> week two, item
> two).  Obviously the purpose of having 5 items is so that the 
> same piece is
> not displayed on the same week of the month every month (they 
> rotate forward
> one week each month). It's not an ad, it's a lunch menu.  I 
> can't work out
> an query that will work.  
> 
> Any elegant query ideas?  Okay, any ideas at all? 
> 
> Rick   
> 
> 
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Re: 5 week rotation

[John Paul Ashenfelter]

Depends on the functions that you've got access to the the db (Access will
probably be tougher than MySQL) but you could do something like

SELECT menus.*
FROM menus
WHERE menuId=( WEEK(NOW()) MOD 5 ) + 1

of course this assumes you've got menu's with menuId 1,2,3,4,5.

The functions of course vary db to db, but you're pulling the week number (1
to 53 because of partial weeks) for the current day, dividing by 5, and
taking the remainder. You might have to tweak a little to get it in sync
with which menu is first. Might be a little weird around the end/beginning
of the year depending on how your weekly menu changes. Check the functions
in your db to make sure you've got WEEK and NOW, but most (T-SQL, MySQL,
Oracle, etc) should be fine.

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Kennerly, Rick H CIV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:43 AM
Subject: 5 week rotation


> Seems like someone did this sometime in the recent past, but I couldn't
find
> it in the archives.
>
> I have 5 fixed-text items in a database that need to rotate display on a
> weekly basis, rotating weekly on Monday (week one: item one; week two,
item
> two).  Obviously the purpose of having 5 items is so that the same piece
is
> not displayed on the same week of the month every month (they rotate
forward
> one week each month). It's not an ad, it's a lunch menu.  I can't work out
> an query that will work.
>
> Any elegant query ideas?  Okay, any ideas at all?
>
> Rick
>
> 
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Re: 5 week rotation

[jochemd]

Quoting "Kennerly, Rick H  CIV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I have 5 fixed-text items in a database that need to rotate display on a
> weekly basis, rotating weekly on Monday (week one: item one; week two, item
> two).  Obviously the purpose of having 5 items is so that the same piece is
> not displayed on the same week of the month every month (they rotate
> forward
> one week each month). It's not an ad, it's a lunch menu.  I can't work out
> an query that will work.  
> 
> Any elegant query ideas?

If they have ID's 1 to 5 it would be something like:

SELECT *
FROM   table
WHERE  ID = Floor((EXTRACT(DAY FROM (CURRENT_DATE - 'startdate')) % 35)/7) + 1

With startdate some arbitrary startdate. (The extensive math is to prevent a
quick repeat at the end of the year, the number of weeks in a year is not a
multiple of 5.)


> Okay, any ideas at all?

More diet variation?

Jochem
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Re: Locking cffile

[Webmaster]

Hi,
  Cflog would be great if it allowed me to specify the complete file path.
It only allows the file name and put the file in the default log directory.
Not where I want it.
If I create a custom tag and in that tag put a lock around the cffile, will
that cover me.  I mean if the custom tag is called from multiple pages, is
it single threaded, or does each tread run its own copy of the tag?

- Original Message -
From: "webguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:54 AM
Subject: RE: Locking cffile


> No cf does not lock the file for you. In fact you'll need to use an
> exclusive lock. If you are doing alot of logging to file I would recommend
> using the cflog tag. This tag is built on top of log4j which is an open
> source java based logging lib (http://jakarta.apache.org) It handles
issues
> like locking, using optimistic locking and lots more too! If cflog doesn't
> crumble your biscuit, you chould build your own tag using the log4j.
>
>
> WG
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 08 January 2003 05:23
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Locking cffile
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if cffile handles contention/locking for you.  In
> > other words, I
> > have an application that logs everything it does to a file.  Lets
> > say I have
> > 5 cfm pages in the app.  Each page will do a write to the log file.  So,
> > what if all 5 pages are trying to write to the file at the same time?
> > (multiple CPUs and threads)  Will cffile handle the contention
> > for you.  If
> > not, what do you need to do?  I don't think cflock is the answer..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Spike Washburn]

We're just waiting for lots of you to say you'll pay money for it ;-)

Supporting it for development is easy for the company, and lets you guys play with it 
immediately.  Believe me, if there's enough interest in paying for production copies 
we're listening very closely!

Now go play with it and tell us what you think.

-Spike (Washburn)



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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Vince Bonfanti]

Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE server,
but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for development
(like CFMX), so there's no cost for the development machines to create the
WARs.

Licensing for BlueDragon/J2EE for Windows/Linux/UNIX is $2499/CPU for
deployment servers, and you can deploy as many WARs as you want on a
licensed server at that price.

We haven't formally announced it or updated our online store yet, but
deployment licenses for BlueDragon/J2EE on Mac OS X are $1000/server for
deploying an unlimited number of WARs. Contact our sales staff
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to get this pricing.

Vince Bonfanti
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> -Original Message-
> From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:16 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> > 
> > 
> > I've got nothing against BlueDragon, but JRun for the extra
> > $3300 gives me little things like EJB, JMS, JXTA, and a whole 
> > bunch of other acronyms I can't understand.
> > 
> > One group I worked with was migrating legacy CF (~4.0) app to
> > Websphere 4.0. That project died and would have been a gimme 
> > for CFMX -- but by the time the CFMX for J2EE version was out 
> > they were deep in EJB-land. JRun/CFMX remains an option; 
> > WebSphere/CFMX remains an option. Bluedragon doesn't unless I 
> > move up to for J2EE which costs 2499/CPU.
> > 
> 
> Isn't there a Bluedragon product that creates WAR files for deployment
> on any J2EE server, whereby the only Bluedragon cost is for the
> development machine used to create the WAR?
> 
> Perhaps I misread something...
> 


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RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)

[Bill Grover]

Thanks for the complement!

The issue I was having may have been fixed.  But what I was noticing was I
would run my page, login and everything was happy.  While working on
something else I would leave the page alone for 20-25 minutes.  Come back
and refresh the page, or go to the next page and the system would error
saying that SESSION.nUserID was undefined.  Yet if you looked at the debug
window the system still had the logon authentication cookie set so it would
not run the  tag.  That is why I added the cflogout code at the
beginning of the page.
__ 

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Supervisor MIS  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324  
EU Services, Inc.   FAX:301.424.3696
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Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW:http://www.euservices.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: stupid newbie tricks
> 
> 
> Quoting Bill Grover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> There used to be an issue with cflogin and cflogout where you 
> needed to put the
> cflogout after the cflogin or users would get mixed up when 
> they logged out and
> back in again (I think). Not sure if it is resolved yet?
> 
> Jochem
> 
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RE: Test CSV

[Jerry Johnson]

I was thinking something along these lines...
























Something threw an error...(it really broke).




No can do, the file has some issues. Please fix it and try again.



Jerry Johnson


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07/03 11:21PM >>>
Thanks Jerry - I wonder if you or someone on the list can confirm what I am
thinking. 

#ListLen(AddressFile, ",")# returns 1. I suspect that
its because the file I've been provided with is not truly a CSV file (sample
below). I've tried interrogating it for a carriage return but that returns
the same value. TIA!
 

Someones Name,theireemail@address
Someones Name,theireemail@address
Someones Name,theireemail@address
Someones Name,theireemail@address



**

Kevin Parker
Web Services Manager
WorkCover Corporation

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.workcover.com 

p: 08 82332548
f: 08 82332000
m: 0418 806 166

**


-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 9:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Test CSV


First, wrap the read and processing in a , so that even if the data
is bad, you won't break.

Next, you might want to create a little CF app that reads the file and looks
for patterns, and if an error is thrown, stops the processing.

for the error checking, a simple listlen() for each line could get you
there. (if there are five columns, the listlen should ALWAYS be 5, right?)


Jerry Johnson


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07/03 05:27PM >>>
I have a CSV file that I want to read into variable (see below). Before
doing so I think I should test the construction of the file to ensure that
its valid otherwise I think there is a risk of the process falling over if
it encounters a badly constructed file somewhere a long the way. How can I
test that a file is a validly constructed CSV file. It will contain e-mail
addresses exported from ACT.




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Article on ZDNET needs your help

[Ryan Kime]

Just before going to sleep last night, I ran across this ZDNet article about
Macromedia's new releases of ColdFusion for J2EE and JRun. Only problem is,
seems some people decided to get on the TalkBack section at the bottom and
blast the CF product. If anyone has the time, sign up and post some
responses to their claims.
 
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-979457.html
 
 
 
 
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Web Developer
Webco Industries
 

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RE: Article on ZDNET needs your help

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

How about just leaving it?  People are entitled to their opinion and its a
bigger man who can stand back and not bite

Jeez, its easy to blast an app/company such as Microsoft isnt it? So is that
wrong also?



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Kime [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Article on ZDNET needs your help


Just before going to sleep last night, I ran across this ZDNet article about
Macromedia's new releases of ColdFusion for J2EE and JRun. Only problem is,
seems some people decided to get on the TalkBack section at the bottom and
blast the CF product. If anyone has the time, sign up and post some
responses to their claims.
 
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-979457.html
 
 
 
 
Ryan Kime
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Developer
Webco Industries
 


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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Vince Bonfanti]

Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.  :-)

Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5 or 5.0
applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features is a
non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are similarly
a non-issue.

What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately and
cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE environment
without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications using
either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.

Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two of our
customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other features
high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full support for
internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services will
probably take a little longer.

We also have some other things under development that we think will be very
interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
tuned...

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon


> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> Come on Vince  until you get up to the full library 
> of CFML then its worth paying for :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
> Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
> 
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua 
> Miller wrote:
> > > If you're interested, just use the default Apache
> > installation, then
> > > download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
> > > BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install 
> > them in order
> > > (Apache, Tomcat, BlueDragon) - Now you can serve CFML 
> from your Mac.
> > 
> > You can now download JRun 4 for Mac OS X and CFMX for J2EE 
> (JRun) for
> > Mac OS X. That let's you serve CFMX-compatible CFML from your Mac.
> > 
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Timothy Heald]

Flash Remoting?

-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.  :-)

Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5 or 5.0
applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features is a
non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are similarly
a non-issue.

What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately and
cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE environment
without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications using
either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.

Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two of our
customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other features
high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full support for
internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services will
probably take a little longer.

We also have some other things under development that we think will be very
interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
tuned...

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon


> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> Come on Vince  until you get up to the full library 
> of CFML then its worth paying for :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
> Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
> 
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua 
> Miller wrote:
> > > If you're interested, just use the default Apache
> > installation, then
> > > download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
> > > BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install 
> > them in order
> > > (Apache, Tomcat, BlueDragon) - Now you can serve CFML 
> from your Mac.
> > 
> > You can now download JRun 4 for Mac OS X and CFMX for J2EE 
> (JRun) for
> > Mac OS X. That let's you serve CFMX-compatible CFML from your Mac.
> > 
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)

[Raymond Camden]

This is one of the more confusing aspects of the roles-based security
system - it is NOT the same as sessions. In fact, the default timeout
for cflogin is different from sessions. One of the enhancement requests
already requested is to allow cflogin to use the session scope instead
of it's own timeout.

===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
Yahoo IM : morpheus

"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:55 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> 
> 
> Thanks for the complement!
> 
> The issue I was having may have been fixed.  But what I was 
> noticing was I would run my page, login and everything was 
> happy.  While working on something else I would leave the 
> page alone for 20-25 minutes.  Come back and refresh the 
> page, or go to the next page and the system would error 
> saying that SESSION.nUserID was undefined.  Yet if you looked 
> at the debug window the system still had the logon 
> authentication cookie set so it would not run the  
> tag.  That is why I added the cflogout code at the beginning 
> of the page. __ 

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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Todd Rafferty]

He said " things that CF5/MX can't do "  -- MX can do flash remoting. ;)

~Todd

At 10:11 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Flash Remoting?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
>
>
>Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.  :-)
>
>Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
>migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5 or 5.0
>applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
>development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features is a
>non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are similarly
>a non-issue.
>
>What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately and
>cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE environment
>without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications using
>either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.
>
>Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
>CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two of our
>customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other features
>high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full support for
>internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services will
>probably take a little longer.
>
>We also have some other things under development that we think will be very
>interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
>tuned...
>
>Vince Bonfanti
>New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon



--
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Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion
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RE: Article on ZDNET needs your help

[Angel Stewart]

How about putting forth an opposing opinion based on facts of the
product 
and showing up those that rant about a product we all use?

Did you go the site to see some of the claims made against CF and as to
why it should not be used?

"Macromedia is in the server business and still don't know that there's
Linux? These guys need to wake up before Microsoft yanks the rug from
under them."

How long has CF been available for Linux?
What's wrong with stating that fact?

Blasting Microsoft is quite often deserved because of the shortcomings
in their products. 
If someone said that it wasn't possible to go more than 16Bit color in
the Windows XP operating systme I would EXPECT other more informed
readers to point out that this is incorrect (just as an analogy).

-Gel


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

How about just leaving it?  People are entitled to their opinion and its
a bigger man who can stand back and not bite

Jeez, its easy to blast an app/company such as Microsoft isnt it? So is
that wrong also?

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Kime [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Article on ZDNET needs your help


Just before going to sleep last night, I ran across this ZDNet article
about Macromedia's new releases of ColdFusion for J2EE and JRun. Only
problem is, seems some people decided to get on the TalkBack section at
the bottom and blast the CF product. If anyone has the time, sign up and
post some responses to their claims.
 
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-979457.html
 
 
 
 
Ryan Kime
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web
Developer Webco Industries
 



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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Matt Liotta]

Flash Remoting J2EE is available as a standalone EAR that can be
deployed with BlueDragon is you so desire.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:11 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> Flash Remoting?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> 
> Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.
:-)
> 
> Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who
are
> migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5
or
> 5.0
> applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
> development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features
is a
> non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are
> similarly
> a non-issue.
> 
> What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately
and
> cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE
> environment
> without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications using
> either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.
> 
> Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance
with
> CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two
of
> our
> customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other
features
> high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full
support
> for
> internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services
will
> probably take a little longer.
> 
> We also have some other things under development that we think will be
> very
> interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
> tuned...
> 
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:39 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> >
> >
> > Come on Vince  until you get up to the full library
> > of CFML then its worth paying for :-)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> >
> >
> > JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
> > Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
> >
> > Vince Bonfanti
> > New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua
> > Miller wrote:
> > > > If you're interested, just use the default Apache
> > > installation, then
> > > > download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
> > > > BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install
> > > them in order
> > > > (Apache, Tomcat, BlueDragon) - Now you can serve CFML
> > from your Mac.
> > >
> > > You can now download JRun 4 for Mac OS X and CFMX for J2EE
> > (JRun) for
> > > Mac OS X. That let's you serve CFMX-compatible CFML from your Mac.
> > >
> > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: New Mac Browser

[Jim Campbell]

I dunno, "Apple Hummer" doesn't have much of a ring to it :)

- Jim

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: New Mac Browser


> Well then it should have been called SILVERADO after another bloated
> overpriced SUV :)
>
> Get it, Explorer, Navigator, Suburban ... Sorry, it's late.
>
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
>
> 
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: New Mac Browser
>
>
> I'm no Mac guy, the name sort of goes along with the competition's
> names: Explorer & Navigator.
>
> --
> Mosh Teitelbaum
> evoch, LLC
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>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:11 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: New Mac Browser
> >
> >
> > Strange, SAFARI ... Doesn't quite fit any of their other naming
> > conventions. I thought all the "metal" apps were in the iLife realm.
> > Wonder why it's not iBrowse or iSurf or something more catchy and
> > relevant than SAFARI. Yeah, yeah, Jaguar, Safari, I get it ... but
> > leopard-print hardly stands the test of time for a marketing gimmick.
> > It's unlike Apple to be so tacky. I don't really associate big-game
> > hunting with my iBook :)
> >
> > Sorry, that was WAY OT!
> >
> > Joshua Miller
> > Head Programmer / IT Manager
> > Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> > www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
> >
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> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:04 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: New Mac Browser
> >
> >
> > No, we use the OS for scheduling -- on CFMXJ2EE we use CF to load JSP
> > pages %^)>
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 01:45 PM, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >
> > > What browser? I thought CF was only used for task scheduling. ;P
> > >
> > >> Don't you need to test your CF apps on all the current browsers?
> > >
> > >> Dick
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:56 PM, Everett, Al
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Isn't this the CF-TALK list?
> > >>>
> >  [snip][snip][snip]
> > >
> > >
> > > s. isaac dealey954-776-0046
> > >
> > > new epoch  http://www.turnkey.to
> > >
> > > lead architect, tapestry cms   http://products.turnkey.to
> > >
> > > certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer
> > > http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: include_once (PHP)

[Jesse Houwing]

>
>
>Yes, not quite as easy as in php though. The logic I've used before goes
>something like:
>
>
>
>
>   
>   
>
>  
>
We used a customtag that is called and that in turn includes the 
requested include.

so like:



and the contents of the cf_include_once customtag:












Thsi isn't copy-pasted, but typed right here from what I remember 
(currently ill at home) so it may need some tweaking.

Jesse

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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Timothy Heald]

>Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
>CF5/MX.

Sorry should have been more specific.

-Original Message-
From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


He said " things that CF5/MX can't do "  -- MX can do flash remoting. ;)

~Todd

At 10:11 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Flash Remoting?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
>
>
>Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.  :-)
>
>Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
>migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5 or 5.0
>applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
>development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features is a
>non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are similarly
>a non-issue.
>
>What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately and
>cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE environment
>without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications using
>either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.
>
>Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
>CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two of our
>customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other features
>high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full support for
>internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services will
>probably take a little longer.
>
>We also have some other things under development that we think will be very
>interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
>tuned...
>
>Vince Bonfanti
>New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon



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RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Matt Liotta]

And indeed BlueDragon already does things CFMX can't do e.g. deploy
without CFML source.

Of course if anyone asked me, I would really like to see an eval
function a la Lisp. The eval function would take a string of CFML and
execute it. I believe BlueDragon's architecture is better suited to
implementing this function than ColdFusion's.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> 
> He said " things that CF5/MX can't do "  -- MX can do flash remoting.
;)
> 
> ~Todd
> 
> At 10:11 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Flash Remoting?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> >
> >
> >Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it.
:-)
> >
> >Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who
are
> >migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5
or
> 5.0
> >applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
> >development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features
is
> a
> >non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are
> similarly
> >a non-issue.
> >
> >What BlueDragon does for these customers is allow them to immediately
and
> >cost-effectively migrate their legacy CF applications to a J2EE
> environment
> >without rewriting them in JSP, and then enhance the applications
using
> >either JSP or CFML, whichever is more appropriate.
> >
> >Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance
> with
> >CF5/MX. We already have C++ CFXs and CORBA working and in use by two
of
> our
> >customers--look for these in a future BlueDragon release. Other
features
> >high on our list are: COM (CF5), Verity-like search (CF5), full
support
> for
> >internationalization (CFMX), and XML (CFMX). CFCs and web services
will
> >probably take a little longer.
> >
> >We also have some other things under development that we think will
be
> very
> >interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
> >tuned...
> >
> >Vince Bonfanti
> >New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> >http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/
> http://www.devmx.com/
> 
> --
> 
> 
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Re: Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?

[Christian Cantrell]

Whichever frame has focus is the one whose document will be sent to the  
printer (on Windows IE, anyway), so make sure you call focus() first.   
Here's some code that I believes works with IE and Netscape:

function doPrint()
{
 top.printVersion.focus();
 top.printVersion.print();
}

"printVersion" is the name of the frame containing the document that  
you want to print.

Christian

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 08:43 AM, James Blaha wrote:

> Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?
>
> Hello All:
>
> Can someone please send me an example of how to use JS in a framed page
> where there are at least two pages (A & B) and the button to print is  
> in
> (A) and when clicked it will print the Contents of whats in (B).
>
> *
> * (A) | (B) *
> *
>
> Thanks in advance,
> James Blaha
>
>
> 
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Re: include_once (PHP)

[Jesse Houwing]

Jesse Houwing wrote:

>>Yes, not quite as easy as in php though. The logic I've used before goes
>>something like:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>  
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>We used a customtag that is called and that in turn includes the 
>requested include.
>
>so like:
>
>
>
>and the contents of the cf_include_once customtag:
>


>Thsi isn't copy-pasted, but typed right here from what I remember 
>(currently ill at home) so it may need some tweaking.
>
>Jesse
>  
>
Ok, I created and tested this at home :)

This is the code required:












 including: #attributes.template#






Tested and verified it. There is one small problem though, I found that 
if you include a file into itself the Coldfusion service immidiately 
restarts. This should not happen, but I haven't been able to prevent it.

Jesse

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Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[Ernie Pena]

Anyone have any recomedations? 

Thanks in advanced
Ernie Pena
Sr. CF Developer

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Re: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[Paul Giesenhagen]

I am alittle bias, but look into QuillDesign's SiteDirector.  We just
released version 3.0 and I think you will like it!  It is less than $500.00
($499 :).

We are putting together a $100.00 discount which should be up in a 1-2 days.

Go to http://www.quilldesign.com look at the online demo.

If you have any questions, feel free to email!

Thank you and good luck in your search!

Paul Giesenhagen
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- Original Message -
From: "Ernie Pena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


> Anyone have any recomedations?
>
> Thanks in advanced
> Ernie Pena
> Sr. CF Developer
>
> 
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Re: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[samcfug]

Sure -  QuickEstore - written in CF so it is cross-platform, costs $99.  and
supports up to 4 stores.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
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- Original Message -
From: "Ernie Pena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


| Anyone have any recomedations?
|
| Thanks in advanced
| Ernie Pena
| Sr. CF Developer
|
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Re: Test CSV

[jon hall]

I did the same thing not to long ago, importing emails from an ACT
exported list. I ended up using reading the uploaded file via an ODBC
Text DSN. This lets the ODBC driver handle any corrupted data, and
turns the csv into a query automagically.
All I did was manually create a ODBC Text DSN to get the schema.ini
format, and proceeded to write the below function to handle creating
text dsns on the fly.
















SELECT *
FROM [#arguments.filename#]





-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, January 7, 2003, 5:27:11 PM, you wrote:
PK> I have a CSV file that I want to read into variable (see below). Before
PK> doing so I think I should test the construction of the file to ensure that
PK> its valid otherwise I think there is a risk of the process falling over if
PK> it encounters a badly constructed file somewhere a long the way. How can I
PK> test that a file is a validly constructed CSV file. It will contain e-mail
PK> addresses exported from ACT.

PK> TIA!!!

PK> 

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RE: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

Try CartWeaver 

http://www.cartweaver.com/

its pretty cool and for $150 pretty reasonable

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


Anyone have any recomedations? 

Thanks in advanced
Ernie Pena
Sr. CF Developer


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RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)

[Bill Grover]

You know, I saw that timeout attribute and went right by it.  I guess I'll
play with it a bit.  Your right though it would be best if the cflogin
timedout at the same interval as your session.

On another vein, I saw your presentation at CFUN'02 in Rockville and enjoyed
it very much.  I downloaded your presentation from DevCon'02 and noticed
that you added a point to one of the slides.  What you added said
"Roles-caching Bug / Timeout Issue".  What is the bug/issue?  Thanks.
__ 

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> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> 
> 
> This is one of the more confusing aspects of the roles-based security
> system - it is NOT the same as sessions. In fact, the default timeout
> for cflogin is different from sessions. One of the 
> enhancement requests
> already requested is to allow cflogin to use the session scope instead
> of it's own timeout.
> 
> ==
> =
> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:55 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the complement!
> > 
> > The issue I was having may have been fixed.  But what I was 
> > noticing was I would run my page, login and everything was 
> > happy.  While working on something else I would leave the 
> > page alone for 20-25 minutes.  Come back and refresh the 
> > page, or go to the next page and the system would error 
> > saying that SESSION.nUserID was undefined.  Yet if you looked 
> > at the debug window the system still had the logon 
> > authentication cookie set so it would not run the  
> > tag.  That is why I added the cflogout code at the beginning 
> > of the page. __ 
> 
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RE: Locking cffile

[webguy]

Yeap, however you should remember that if several threads (request) try to
access the file the same time each process will be queued until it gets an
exclusive lock, which might a preformance issue. It might be possible to add
additional loggers to cf for use in cflog, but it would take a little work
to discover the way to do that  start with the logger.xml file.. .








WG


> Hi,
>   Cflog would be great if it allowed me to specify the complete file path.
> It only allows the file name and put the file in the default log
> directory.
> Not where I want it.
> If I create a custom tag and in that tag put a lock around the
> cffile, will
> that cover me.  I mean if the custom tag is called from multiple pages, is
> it single threaded, or does each tread run its own copy of the tag?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "webguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:54 AM
> Subject: RE: Locking cffile
>
>
> > No cf does not lock the file for you. In fact you'll need to use an
> > exclusive lock. If you are doing alot of logging to file I
> would recommend
> > using the cflog tag. This tag is built on top of log4j which is an open
> > source java based logging lib (http://jakarta.apache.org) It handles
> issues
> > like locking, using optimistic locking and lots more too! If
> cflog doesn't
> > crumble your biscuit, you chould build your own tag using the log4j.
> >
> >
> > WG
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 08 January 2003 05:23
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Locking cffile
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know if cffile handles contention/locking for you.  In
> > > other words, I
> > > have an application that logs everything it does to a file.  Lets
> > > say I have
> > > 5 cfm pages in the app.  Each page will do a write to the log
> file.  So,
> > > what if all 5 pages are trying to write to the file at the same time?
> > > (multiple CPUs and threads)  Will cffile handle the contention
> > > for you.  If
> > > not, what do you need to do?  I don't think cflock is the answer..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: New Mac Browser

[Joshua Miller]

Yeah, well, after all the word-of-mouth marketing I've done for them I
think I deserve an "Apple Hummer" - LOL

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Mac Browser


I dunno, "Apple Hummer" doesn't have much of a ring to it :)

- Jim

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Subject: RE: New Mac Browser


> Well then it should have been called SILVERADO after another bloated 
> overpriced SUV :)
>
> Get it, Explorer, Navigator, Suburban ... Sorry, it's late.
>
> Joshua Miller
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: New Mac Browser
>
>
> I'm no Mac guy, the name sort of goes along with the competition's
> names: Explorer & Navigator.
>
> --
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joshua Miller 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:11 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: New Mac Browser
> >
> >
> > Strange, SAFARI ... Doesn't quite fit any of their other naming 
> > conventions. I thought all the "metal" apps were in the iLife realm.

> > Wonder why it's not iBrowse or iSurf or something more catchy and 
> > relevant than SAFARI. Yeah, yeah, Jaguar, Safari, I get it ... but 
> > leopard-print hardly stands the test of time for a marketing 
> > gimmick. It's unlike Apple to be so tacky. I don't really associate 
> > big-game hunting with my iBook :)
> >
> > Sorry, that was WAY OT!
> >
> > Joshua Miller
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:04 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: New Mac Browser
> >
> >
> > No, we use the OS for scheduling -- on CFMXJ2EE we use CF to load 
> > JSP pages %^)>
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 01:45 PM, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >
> > > What browser? I thought CF was only used for task scheduling. ;P
> > >
> > >> Do

RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)

[Raymond Camden]

Two issues:

1) If you login as user X with role Y, then logout, then relogin with
role Z, you don't have access to role Z, just Y. This was fixed in the
last udpater.
2) Timeout... geeze, trying to remember and I can't now. Oh - yes - if
you use this code:




The code will work even after a timeout. The reason is that it rereads
in the cookie and populates cflogin.*. The logic behind this was to
allow for cflogin over a cluster. However, obviously, it makes timeouts
useless. There are ways around this - for example, checking a session
value as well, or checking for a REAL login attempt
(isDefined("form.login")), however this last technique kind of defeats
the purpose of the cflogin.* scope, which was to make a security system
that would work w/ multiple client types.

===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
Yahoo IM : morpheus

"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> 
> 
> You know, I saw that timeout attribute and went right by it.  
> I guess I'll play with it a bit.  Your right though it would 
> be best if the cflogin timedout at the same interval as your session.
> 
> On another vein, I saw your presentation at CFUN'02 in 
> Rockville and enjoyed it very much.  I downloaded your 
> presentation from DevCon'02 and noticed that you added a 
> point to one of the slides.  What you added said 
> "Roles-caching Bug / Timeout Issue".  What is the bug/issue?  
> Thanks. __ 
> 
> Bill Grover   
> Supervisor MIS  Phone:  301.424.3300 x3324
> EU Services, Inc.   FAX:301.424.3696  
> 649 North Horners Lane  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rockville, MD 20850-1299WWW:http://www.euservices.com
> __ 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:14 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> > 
> > 
> > This is one of the more confusing aspects of the 
> roles-based security 
> > system - it is NOT the same as sessions. In fact, the 
> default timeout 
> > for cflogin is different from sessions. One of the enhancement 
> > requests already requested is to allow cflogin to use the session 
> > scope instead of it's own timeout.
> > 
> > ==
> > =
> > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> > 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> > Yahoo IM : morpheus
> > 
> > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bill Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:55 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFLOGIN (Was: stupid newbie tricks)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the complement!
> > > 
> > > The issue I was having may have been fixed.  But what I was
> > > noticing was I would run my page, login and everything was 
> > > happy.  While working on something else I would leave the 
> > > page alone for 20-25 minutes.  Come back and refresh the 
> > > page, or go to the next page and the system would error 
> > > saying that SESSION.nUserID was undefined.  Yet if you looked 
> > > at the debug window the system still had the logon 
> > > authentication cookie set so it would not run the  
> > > tag.  That is why I added the cflogout code at the beginning 
> > > of the page. 
> __ 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: New Mac Browser

[Scott Brady]

> I'm no Mac guy, the name sort of goes along with the competition's  
> names:
> Explorer & Navigator.

Cool. I think I'll develop a browser and call it Conquistador.

Scott

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RE: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[Eric Hoffman]

SITEDIRECTOR Version 3.

Best of breed, my friends.  Feel free to ask me anything about it.
We've been using since 2, and it is a great tool!  Makes development
time a breeze too.

Regards,

Eric J Hoffman
DataStream Connexion
www.datastreamconnexion.com
Delivering Creative Data Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?



I am alittle bias, but look into QuillDesign's SiteDirector.  We just
released version 3.0 and I think you will like it!  It is less than
$500.00 ($499 :).

We are putting together a $100.00 discount which should be up in a 1-2
days.

Go to http://www.quilldesign.com look at the online demo.

If you have any questions, feel free to email!

Thank you and good luck in your search!

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign

- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


> Anyone have any recomedations?
>
> Thanks in advanced
> Ernie Pena
> Sr. CF Developer
>
> 

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CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Ian Skinner]

I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 's
in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  I've scanned
through the  and the  documentation, but I'm not
readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's in data passed
to a  and provide logic to handle it.

Thanks
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
Blood Source
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Re: 5 week rotation

[Casey C Cook]

I posted an approach to solving the problem, I did not post a code
solution.  Here what I had to say in a previous post:

Have a table with the fields, ItemID, AdBeginDate, AdEndDate, ItemDetail,
AdDate (if needed)

Then just write a query to check what todays date is and what Ad/item
should be displayed depending on where todays date falls within the
AdBeginDate and AdEndDate.  Just be sure to that add dates do not overlap.
This way you can map out however many ads you want into the future and
potentially you could have a user admin screen where they can change their
ad whenever they want and for however long they want.  If it so happens
more than one ad will run in a week you will just have to change your logic
a little. This might not be the best approach if you know your only going
to have 5 items no more no less and for 1 week periods infinitely, however,
the approach I offer allows for flexibility and can put the ad maintenance
in the users hands.

CC


   

  "Kennerly, Rick  

  H  CIV"  To:  CF-Talk 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  

   

  01/08/03 08:43   

  AM   

  Please respond   

  to cf-talk   

   

   





Seems like someone did this sometime in the recent past, but I couldn't
find
it in the archives.

I have 5 fixed-text items in a database that need to rotate display on a
weekly basis, rotating weekly on Monday (week one: item one; week two, item
two).  Obviously the purpose of having 5 items is so that the same piece is
not displayed on the same week of the month every month (they rotate
forward
one week each month). It's not an ad, it's a lunch menu.  I can't work out
an query that will work.

Any elegant query ideas?  Okay, any ideas at all?

Rick


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RE: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?

[Joshua Miller]

http://www.cfwebstore.com/store/index.cfm

CFWebStore is great ... Very customizable and easy to use. Good support
and you can buy 2 of 'em for $500.

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


SITEDIRECTOR Version 3.

Best of breed, my friends.  Feel free to ask me anything about it. We've
been using since 2, and it is a great tool!  Makes development time a
breeze too.

Regards,

Eric J Hoffman
DataStream Connexion
www.datastreamconnexion.com
Delivering Creative Data Solutions 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?



I am alittle bias, but look into QuillDesign's SiteDirector.  We just
released version 3.0 and I think you will like it!  It is less than
$500.00 ($499 :).

We are putting together a $100.00 discount which should be up in a 1-2
days.

Go to http://www.quilldesign.com look at the online demo.

If you have any questions, feel free to email!

Thank you and good luck in your search!

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign

- Original Message -
From: "Ernie Pena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: Shopping Cart Under $500 bux?


> Anyone have any recomedations?
>
> Thanks in advanced
> Ernie Pena
> Sr. CF Developer
>
> 


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RE: Free enterprise manager application

[Pete Freitag]

There is a free/open source web based SQL Server Enterprise Manager for
ASP.NET

http://www.aspenterprisemanager.com/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/asp-ent-man/

It isn't bad, but I'd love to see a ColdFusion version of it.

_
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Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Dick Applebaum]

Spike

Is there some central contact or person to contact -- we want to be 
sure that any potential Mac production users appear (as rather large 
blips) on Macromedia's radar screen?

Dick


On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Spike Washburn wrote:

> We're just waiting for lots of you to say you'll pay money for it ;-)
>
> Supporting it for development is easy for the company, and lets you 
> guys play with it immediately.  Believe me, if there's enough interest 
> in paying for production copies we're listening very closely!
>
> Now go play with it and tell us what you think.
>
> -Spike (Washburn)

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RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

Well, it depends on what you want the flow to be, but here's the start.


  [Query or other potentially problematic code]
  
[Exception processing code]
  

[After running CFCATCH block, code resumes processing here.]

If you just want a friendly message, then you can have the CFCATCH block
(whose type attribute in the above example specifies that it only handles
CFQUERY-related errors) CFLOCATION to an error page.  If you think you might
be able to fix the problem, then you can possibly try the query again (by
re-submitting this page to itself if it's a form action page, for example,
only with corrected parameters passed).

The thing is if you know how to fix it when it happens, perhaps a
pre-emptive strike is better?  For example, if a value should be numeric,
you can test for that before submitting it to the query.  Still use
CFQUERYPARAM (for performance reasons, if nothing else), but that way you
avoid having to see the error first.

More specifics on CFTRY/CFCATCH: If you don't yet know how the above works,
here's the flow.  When the "potentially problematic code" in the CFTRY block
throws an error at any point, processing immediately jumps to the CFCATCH
block(s).  If the error matches the specified type, it runs the code in the
CFCATCH block.  If the error does not match, it goes to another CFCATCH
block, if you have one for multiple types.  If it never finds a CFCATCH
block with a matching error type, I think that it just throws an error the
old-fashioned way.  Here's the really important thing to remember, though:
assuming that a CFCATCH block with matching error type is found, the code in
the CFCATCH block is run, and then processing jumps to the line IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE CLOSING  TAG.  It does NOT go back to where the error
happened.  This commonly gets confused.

Hope this helps,
Matthieu


-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 's
in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  I've scanned
through the  and the  documentation, but I'm not
readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's in data passed
to a  and provide logic to handle it.

Thanks
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
Blood Source

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RE: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Matthew Small]

Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple"
in it? :-)

Matthew Small
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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

Spike

Is there some central contact or person to contact -- we want to be 
sure that any potential Mac production users appear (as rather large 
blips) on Macromedia's radar screen?

Dick


On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Spike Washburn wrote:

> We're just waiting for lots of you to say you'll pay money for it ;-)
>
> Supporting it for development is easy for the company, and lets you 
> guys play with it immediately.  Believe me, if there's enough interest

> in paying for production copies we're listening very closely!
>
> Now go play with it and tell us what you think.
>
> -Spike (Washburn)


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RE: CFServer Problem

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

This is going to sound really stupid, but it's a solution to a similar
problem in my installation.  Worth a try:

When you attempt to access the datasources, try to log in.  It will give you
the error message.  Then try again immediately.  In my installation, for
whatever reason, this works.  It's just development, so I don't really care.
If your error is happening in production, though, perhaps it's indicative of
a broader problem?  I don't know.

In any case, hope this helps.

Matthieu

-Original Message-
From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFServer Problem


I can't turn them on, since they are off. I don't know if Siteminder
Services are the cause, or whether the problem is simply coincidental,
but when I attempt to access my datasources through the database tab
within Studio, I am unable to do so (hence, unable to view tables or
construct queries), and I receive the following message:

"An error occurred accessing ColdFusion Server: The authentication
failed."


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> do you really need Siteminder-services ?
> If not can you switch them off ?
> What happens then ?
> Uwe
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> Monday, January 6, 2003, 7:12:56 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JA> Good thought, Uwe, but I've run 4.01 under Win2K for a year and a half
> JA> without a hiccup. But, thanks anyway. My suspicions run toward the IIS
> JA> Metabase or some Windows .dll that got corrupted. Whatever files the
two
> JA> Siteminder apps depend on have been corrupted, or something is
> JA> preventing them from being installed.
> 
> JA> -John
> 
> JA> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> John, I might be wrong,
> >> but as far as I know 4, Win2k is unsupported
> >> by CF 4.01
> >> I think you must run at least 4.5.x
> >> Uwe
> >>
> >> Hello John,
> >>
> >> Monday, January 6, 2003, 6:15:30 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> JA> Me again.
> >>
> >> JA> I've been working for several days to repair whatever problem has
> >> JA> mangled my ColdFusion installation. I've uninstalled everything
related
> >> JA> to CF that I can find, cleaned up the registry, uninstalled IIS,
> >> JA> reinstalled Windows, reinstalled IIS, reinstalled ColdFusion, and I
> >> JA> continue to have the same problem.
> >>
> >> JA> In addition I've spent considerable time on both Microsoft's and
> >> JA> Macromedia's web sites and in the books.
> >>
> >> JA> So I throw myself on the mercy of you guys. There has to be an
expert
> >> JA> who's faced a similar problem and who can point me in the right
> >> JA> direction.
> >>
> >> JA> I'm running:
> >> JA> Win2K Pro (plenty of RAM and disk space - no current registry
errors)
> >> JA> IIS 5.0 - The server displays its default files and help system, so
I
> >> JA> know it's running okay.
> >> JA> I had MDAC 2.7, but I think my most recent reinstallation of CF may
have
> >> JA> reinstalled MDAC 2.0 (but reinstalling 2.7 doesn't change the
situation)
> >> JA> CF 4.01
> >>
> >> JA> This is the error message I get in Windows Events:
> >>
> >> JA> The SiteMinder Authentication Service service failed to start due
to the
> >> JA> following error:
> >> JA> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> JA> Authorization Service is not running either. It displays:
> >>
> >> JA> The SiteMinder Authorization Service service failed to start due to
the
> >> JA> following error:
> >> JA> The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>
> >> JA> For both, Windows displays Event ID: 7000
> >>
> >> JA> My choices are to call Microsoft ($$), call Macromedia ($$), or
take my
> >> JA> computer to a local repair shop ($$).
> >>
> >> JA> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> >> JA> John
> >> JA>
> >>
> JA>
> 

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CFMX for OSX

[Venable, John]

At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users correct,
I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it won't
connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I missing? 

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RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Ian,

The  tag will throw errors of type "Database" when any values
that are not of the correct type are passed into it. This actually works
pretty much the same as when you are not using the tag.  For example,
passing an int (like 50) to a character field using the "char" type will
work - naturally. Passing a non numeric character string to a numeric field
will not work etc.  does not cause huge changes to error
trapping.

-Mark.

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 's
in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  I've scanned
through the  and the  documentation, but I'm not
readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's in data passed
to a  and provide logic to handle it.

Thanks
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
Blood Source

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RE: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Mike Chambers]

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

please make sure to include the time frame you are looking to deploy OS
X in production servers.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:09 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?
> 
> 
> Spike
> 
> Is there some central contact or person to contact -- we want to be 
> sure that any potential Mac production users appear (as rather large 
> blips) on Macromedia's radar screen?
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Spike Washburn wrote:
> 
> > We're just waiting for lots of you to say you'll pay money 
> for it ;-)
> >
> > Supporting it for development is easy for the company, and lets you 
> > guys play with it immediately.  Believe me, if there's 
> enough interest 
> > in paying for production copies we're listening very closely!
> >
> > Now go play with it and tell us what you think.
> >
> > -Spike (Washburn)
> 
> 
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Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Dick Applebaum]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote:

> Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple"
> in it? :-)
>
>

Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :)

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RE: CFMX for OSX

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

a PC ...


"boom boom tish!"

-Original Message-
From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 17:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX for OSX


At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users correct,
I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it won't
connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I missing? 

John Venable

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RE: Using Excel to Calculate a Result...

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

I have to say that my gut agrees with Samuel's gut.  Or at least with
Samuel's e-mail.  I wince at the idea of going through Excel, despite the
complexity of the formula conversion.  I also agree with Samuel's suggestion
of pushing back on the client.  Like you said, this wasn't in the original
contract.

If you have to do it yourself: You probably already know about this, but the
Excel auditing toolbar helps a *little* in this process.  Allows you to
graphically trace precedent and dependent cells in cell formulas.

I'm an expert with Excel, so if you're not and have questions about it, I
might be able to help.  Let me know off-list.

Hope this helps,
Matthieu

-Original Message-
From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Using Excel to Calculate a Result...


Yes.  Extract code from spreadsheet only has to be done once.  Using
Excel reduces production choices (no shared hosts) and slows down every
request.

I'd give the client the choice.  Tell them you can either automate Excel
and use it for doing the calculation which will slow down every request
and require that Excel be installed on the server, or they can add money
to the contract to convert the calculations to CF.

> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Using Excel to Calculate a Result...
> 
> 
> :> I'm sorry, but automating Excel just to perform a 
> calculation seems a :> bit out there.
> 
> 
> Verses extracting what appears to be several hundred lines of 
> calculations from the spreadsheet?
> 



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RE: CFMX for OSX

[Joshua Miller]

You probably didn't start Jrun ...

Open Terminal:

Cd /Applications/JRun4/bin/
./jrun -start admin &

Then hit your browser again at: http://127.0.0.1:8000 to login to the
Administrator
:8100 is where CFMX will reside after install, but you'll have to
install CFMX under a server instance on Jrun.

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From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX for OSX


At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users correct,
I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it
won't connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I
missing? 

John Venable

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CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!)

[Joshua Miller]

Another thing is that it's kind of annoying is that I have to manually
start Jrun ... I know, I know, shellscript, but that's Greek a lot of
Unix/OSX newbies. Starting Jrun/CFMX by default on bootup would be nice.
Or at least package a shellscript and instructions on how to set it up.

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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
>> One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the
>> installation
>> proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
>> comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of
>> developers who don't have a lot of experience with server
installation
>> and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions and editing
>> config files, have an option for "basic install" that does all these
>> things for you.
>
> Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved 
> here?
>
> I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as 
> some people might expect but it really isn't that bad:
>
>   java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar
>
> (run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder 
> somewhere)
>

I would at least change the default folder (directory).  Currently, the

CFMF installer uses:

/opt

which is hidden on Jaguar (Jag-wire, as pronounced by Steve)


> In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx).
>
> Then:
>   cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx
mkdir cfusion
  mkdir CFIDE
  cd CFIDE
  jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/rds.war
  cd ../cfusion
>   jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war
>

Then there is the step (step 9) configuring graphics support -- which I

have found to be unnecessary, and can be ignored.

> Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install 
> is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect...

I agree with this for experienced Unix users. This is especially true  
if you deploy multiple server instances and/or multiple cfmx contexts  
under a server instance.

But I think some things that could be done to make it simpler and more  
Mac like (in the next update).  Have the default option (procdure):

1) Deploy from a single .ear file rather than 2 .war files
2) Hot deploy from the JRun JMC (maybe using the compressed,  
downloaded CFMX file as a source -- avoid the decompress and war/ear  
decision, altogether.
3) Include instructions on how to create a connector to Apache in  
the install procedure.

Finally, make as much of the install procedure as possible automatic  
for first time users by providing a shell script and/or  
double-clickabble program with all the defaults set and the proper  
actions taken to install/deplow a single server with a single cfmx  
context and a single CFIDE context -- a "quick-start" option.

I especially like the way that JRun installs:

 Download
 Automatic Decompress
 Double-Click Installer
 Default path = /Applications/JRun4

(This coming from the guy who built the "Ugly Port" procedure)

But, like Joshua and others have said, I am happy with what MM has  
provided) -- It is no more difficult than installing/deploying other  
applications.

Dick







>
> Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
> tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
> aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com
> An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog
>
> ColdFusion MX and JRun 4 now available for Mac OS X! 
> http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2003/jrun_osx.html
>
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RE: CFMX for OSX

[webguy]

You started the JRun admin server on that port ? Use the "Jrun Launcher"...
Are you using the builtin jrun web server or proxying through apache??

WG

> -Original Message-
> From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 17:16
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX for OSX
>
>
> At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users correct,
> I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
> http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it won't
> connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I missing?
>
> John Venable
> 
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RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Ian Skinner]

Ok...I'm going to try type "Database" again.  That's was my first thought,
but it didn't seem to be working.  That I was getting error's that weren't
of type "Database"..and when I dump the errors, CFCatch.ErrorType is
"Unknown".

Ian


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


Ian,

The  tag will throw errors of type "Database" when any values
that are not of the correct type are passed into it. This actually works
pretty much the same as when you are not using the tag.  For example,
passing an int (like 50) to a character field using the "char" type will
work - naturally. Passing a non numeric character string to a numeric field
will not work etc.  does not cause huge changes to error
trapping.

-Mark.

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 's
in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  I've scanned
through the  and the  documentation, but I'm not
readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's in data passed
to a  and provide logic to handle it.

Thanks
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
Blood Source


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Re: CFMX for OSX

[Dick Applebaum]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Venable, John wrote:

> At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users 
> correct,
> I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
> http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it 
> won't
> connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I 
> missing?
>
> John Venable
>

John

Use the following:

http://127.0.0.1:8000/

to start the JRun JMC

use the JMC to start the defaul server  port 8100 (or whatever server 
you used to deploy CFMX)

Then use

http://127.0.0.1:8100/cfusion

to launch cf setup

To connect to Apache,  run:

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig

and follow the GUI

Once connected, you can access CFMX with

http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/

where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server isntance that you 
connected to Apache.

Dick



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Re: Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?

[James Blaha]

Christian,

Thank you very much!

Regards,
James Blaha

Christian Cantrell wrote:

>Whichever frame has focus is the one whose document will be sent to the  
>printer (on Windows IE, anyway), so make sure you call focus() first.   
>Here's some code that I believes works with IE and Netscape:
>
>function doPrint()
>{
> top.printVersion.focus();
> top.printVersion.print();
>}
>
>"printVersion" is the name of the frame containing the document that  
>you want to print.
>
>Christian
>
>On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 08:43 AM, James Blaha wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Issue: Using Print Button JavaScript in a Framed Page?
>>
>>Hello All:
>>
>>Can someone please send me an example of how to use JS in a framed page
>>where there are at least two pages (A & B) and the button to print is  
>>in
>>(A) and when clicked it will print the Contents of whats in (B).
>>
>>*
>>* (A) | (B) *
>>*
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>James Blaha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!)

[webguy]

Can you get xinetd to start it ? Haven't tried it but it should be possible/
That why it will only start when you use it ...

WG

> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 17:29
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX -
> Working !!!)
>
>
> Another thing is that it's kind of annoying is that I have to manually
> start Jrun ... I know, I know, shellscript, but that's Greek a lot of
> Unix/OSX newbies. Starting Jrun/CFMX by default on bootup would be nice.
> Or at least package a shellscript and instructions on how to set it up.
>
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> 
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
> >> One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the
> >> installation
> >> proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
> >> comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of
> >> developers who don't have a lot of experience with server
> installation
> >> and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions and editing
> >> config files, have an option for "basic install" that does all these
> >> things for you.
> >
> > Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved
> > here?
> >
> > I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as
> > some people might expect but it really isn't that bad:
> >
> > java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar
> >
> > (run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder
> > somewhere)
> >
>
> I would at least change the default folder (directory).  Currently, the
>
> CFMF installer uses:
>
> /opt
>
> which is hidden on Jaguar (Jag-wire, as pronounced by Steve)
>
>
> > In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx).
> >
> > Then:
> > cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx
>   mkdir cfusion
>   mkdir CFIDE
>   cd CFIDE
>   jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/rds.war
>   cd ../cfusion
> > jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war
> >
>
> Then there is the step (step 9) configuring graphics support -- which I
>
> have found to be unnecessary, and can be ignored.
>
> > Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install
> > is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect...
>
> I agree with this for experienced Unix users. This is especially true
> if you deploy multiple server instances and/or multiple cfmx contexts
> under a server instance.
>
> But I think some things that could be done to make it simpler and more
> Mac like (in the next update).  Have the default option (procdure):
>
> 1) Deploy from a single .ear file rather than 2 .war files
> 2) Hot deploy from the JRun JMC (maybe using the compressed,
> downloaded CFMX file as a source -- avoid the decompress and war/ear
> decision, altogether.
> 3) Include instructions on how to create a connector to Apache in
> the install procedure.
>
> Finally, make as much of the install procedure as possible automatic
> for first time users by providing a shell script and/or
> double-clickabble program with all the defaults set and the proper
> actions taken to install/deplow a single server with a single cfmx
> context and a single CFIDE context -- a "quick-start" option.
>
> I especially like the way that JRun installs:
>
>  Download
>  Automatic Decompress
>  Double-Click Installer
>  Default path = /Applications/JRun4
>
> (This coming from the guy who built the "Ugly Port" procedure)
>
> But, like Joshua and others have said, I am happy with what MM has
> provided) -- It is no more difficult than installing/deploying other
> applications.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> > Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
> > tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 71

RE: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Joshua Miller]

Anyone have a script to get Jrun/Apache to play nicely together without
having to use a port number?

It'd be nice to see a FAQ on setting up Apache/Jrun/CFMXJ2EE on OSX with
a shellscript for starting the whole conglomerate on boot.

I'll host it if anyone wants to contribute.

Joshua Miller
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?


On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote:

> Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple"

> in it? :-)
>
>

Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :)

Dick AppleBaum

P.S. I've been around a lot longer that either of those young upstarts!


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RE: CFMX for OSX

[Joshua Miller]

Dick, I get: Exception in thread "main" when running:

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig

Any clues??? I'd like to connect to Apache

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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX for OSX


On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Venable, John wrote:

> At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users
> correct,
> I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
> http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it 
> won't
> connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I 
> missing?
>
> John Venable
>

John

Use the following:

http://127.0.0.1:8000/

to start the JRun JMC

use the JMC to start the defaul server  port 8100 (or whatever server 
you used to deploy CFMX)

Then use

http://127.0.0.1:8100/cfusion

to launch cf setup

To connect to Apache,  run:

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig

and follow the GUI

Once connected, you can access CFMX with

http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/

where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server isntance that you 
connected to Apache.

Dick




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custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

Hi.  I think there is a custom tag out there that allows me to do what I
want, but I don't know what words to use to search for it.  Here is what it
should do: create a pair of listboxes, with a pair of buttons in between.
The idea is to transfer items from one listbox to the other.  This typically
is used to "add" items from the left list to the right list or "remove"
items from the right list (thereby sending them back to the left list).
 
Anyone know the name of this tag, assuming it exists?
 
Thanks,
Matthieu
 
 
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RE: custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring

[Timothy Heald]

look for two related selects.

-Original Message-
From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring


Hi.  I think there is a custom tag out there that allows me to do what I
want, but I don't know what words to use to search for it.  Here is what it
should do: create a pair of listboxes, with a pair of buttons in between.
The idea is to transfer items from one listbox to the other.  This typically
is used to "add" items from the left list to the right list or "remove"
items from the right list (thereby sending them back to the left list).
 
Anyone know the name of this tag, assuming it exists?
 
Thanks,
Matthieu
 
 

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RE: custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring

[webguy]

THe www.pengoworks.com qforms js lib has all the JavaScript you need for
this ...

WG

> -Original Message-
> From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2003 17:45
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring
>
>
> Hi.  I think there is a custom tag out there that allows me to do what I
> want, but I don't know what words to use to search for it.  Here
> is what it
> should do: create a pair of listboxes, with a pair of buttons in between.
> The idea is to transfer items from one listbox to the other.
> This typically
> is used to "add" items from the left list to the right list or "remove"
> items from the right list (thereby sending them back to the left list).
>
> Anyone know the name of this tag, assuming it exists?
>
> Thanks,
> Matthieu
>
>
> 
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RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Ian,

Well, that could happen as well.  Obviously the tag itself can throw errors
unrelated to the DB - like syntax errors etc.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


Ok...I'm going to try type "Database" again.  That's was my first thought,
but it didn't seem to be working.  That I was getting error's that weren't
of type "Database"..and when I dump the errors, CFCatch.ErrorType is
"Unknown".

Ian


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


Ian,

The  tag will throw errors of type "Database" when any values
that are not of the correct type are passed into it. This actually works
pretty much the same as when you are not using the tag.  For example,
passing an int (like 50) to a character field using the "char" type will
work - naturally. Passing a non numeric character string to a numeric field
will not work etc.  does not cause huge changes to error
trapping.

-Mark.

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFQueryParam and Error Handling


I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 's
in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  I've scanned
through the  and the  documentation, but I'm not
readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's in data passed
to a  and provide logic to handle it.

Thanks
Ian Skinner
Web Developer
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Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Christian Cantrell]

You can just run:

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig

It's a nice GUI to configure Apache to sit on top of JRun and CFMX.

Is that what you were looking for?

Note: Make sure JRun is running before you run the script.  Also, you  
have run Apache as root (using sudo) since by default, it will listen  
on port 80.

Christian

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:40 PM, Joshua Miller wrote:

> Anyone have a script to get Jrun/Apache to play nicely together without
> having to use a port number?
>
> It'd be nice to see a FAQ on setting up Apache/Jrun/CFMXJ2EE on OSX  
> with
> a shellscript for starting the whole conglomerate on boot.
>
> I'll host it if anyone wants to contribute.
>
> Joshua Miller
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> www.garrisonenterprises.net
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>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote:
>
>> Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple"
>
>> in it? :-)
>>
>>
>
> Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :)
>
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Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

[Dick Applebaum]

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig

follow the gui

then

http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/.

where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server you connected to  
Apache

BTW,  you can connect a cluster the same way -- you first need to:

1) create multiple JRun Server instances
2) deploy CFMX under each
3) Cluster them with the JMC as buddys
4) Connect them to apache by cluster name

Voila!

Dick



On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Joshua Miller wrote:

> Anyone have a script to get Jrun/Apache to play nicely together without
> having to use a port number?
>
> It'd be nice to see a FAQ on setting up Apache/Jrun/CFMXJ2EE on OSX  
> with
> a shellscript for starting the whole conglomerate on boot.
>
> I'll host it if anyone wants to contribute.
>
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
>
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote:
>
>> Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple"
>
>> in it? :-)
>>
>>
>
> Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :)
>
> Dick AppleBaum
>
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>
>
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Re: CFMX for OSX

[Dick Applebaum]

Try running as the root user

Dick

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:43 AM, Joshua Miller wrote:

> Dick, I get: Exception in thread "main" when running:
>
> /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig
>
> Any clues??? I'd like to connect to Apache
>
> Joshua Miller
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX for OSX
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Venable, John wrote:
>
>> At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users
>> correct,
>> I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
>> http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it
>> won't
>> connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I
>> missing?
>>
>> John Venable
>>
>
> John
>
> Use the following:
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8000/
>
> to start the JRun JMC
>
> use the JMC to start the defaul server  port 8100 (or whatever server
> you used to deploy CFMX)
>
> Then use
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8100/cfusion
>
> to launch cf setup
>
> To connect to Apache,  run:
>
> /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig
>
> and follow the GUI
>
> Once connected, you can access CFMX with
>
> http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/
>
> where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server isntance that you
> connected to Apache.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: custom tag: pair of list boxes with transferring

[Bob Haroche]

I found this tag on the MM Exchange a while back but haven't used it yet.

---

NAME: 

DESCRIPTION:creates two select boxes inside of a
form.  The first
  select box contains your option values, and the second box is
initially empty.
  The end user can transfer items back and forth between box 1 and box 2
until they
  have made their desired selections, at which point the form can be
submitted
  and you can find out what their selections were.  See the demo at:
  http://www.mauzy-broadway.com/orders/selectoption/index.cfm for a good
example
  of how this all works.

---
Regards,
Bob Haroche
O n P o i n t  S o l u t i o n s
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RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling

[Lofback, Chris]

I also get error type "UNKNOWN" using CF5 on Win2K.  I guess you have to
CFCATCH it using TYPE="Any".

Chris Lofback
Sr. Web Developer

TRX Integration
28051 US 19 N., Ste. C
Clearwater, FL  33761
www.trxi.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling
> 
> 
> Ok...I'm going to try type "Database" again.  That's was my 
> first thought,
> but it didn't seem to be working.  That I was getting error's 
> that weren't
> of type "Database"..and when I dump the errors, CFCatch.ErrorType is
> "Unknown".
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:23 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFQueryParam and Error Handling
> 
> 
> Ian,
> 
> The  tag will throw errors of type "Database" 
> when any values
> that are not of the correct type are passed into it. This 
> actually works
> pretty much the same as when you are not using the tag.  For example,
> passing an int (like 50) to a character field using the 
> "char" type will
> work - naturally. Passing a non numeric character string to a 
> numeric field
> will not work etc.  does not cause huge changes to error
> trapping.
> 
> -Mark.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFQueryParam and Error Handling
> 
> 
> I'm trying to step up my coding standards and start using 
> 's
> in my Database calls. What I would like to know is how I should catch
> error's thrown by improper data passed to the queryparam?  
> I've scanned
> through the  and the  documentation, 
> but I'm not
> readily understanding how to use either one to catch error's 
> in data passed
> to a  and provide logic to handle it.
> 
> Thanks
> Ian Skinner
> Web Developer
> Blood Source
> 
> 
> 
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CF_Authorize tag (repetitous)

[Dowdell, Jason G]

Hi All,

Just wanted to know if anyone had an open source tag
for posting transactions to Authorize.net.  I know there
are some available from devexchange but they're not
free and this is for pro-bono work (trying to keep costs down).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I can give out the probono client information for verification
purposes in a one-on-one manner.

Thanks,
Jason

-
Jason Dowdell
IM-AES Web Developer
321.799.6845
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: CFMX for OSX

[Joshua Miller]

Same error:

[iBook:~] jmiller% login
Login: root
Password: ***
Last login: Thu Dec 26 12:56:30 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[iBook:~] root# /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig
Exception in thread "main"

Any other ideas? Reinstall Jrun?

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX for OSX


Try running as the root user

Dick

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:43 AM, Joshua Miller wrote:

> Dick, I get: Exception in thread "main" when running:
>
> /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig
>
> Any clues??? I'd like to connect to Apache
>
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX for OSX
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Venable, John wrote:
>
>> At the risk of proving everyone's prejudice's against mac users
>> correct,
>> I've installed JRun as per instructions, and then I went to
>> http://127.0.0.1:8100/ to check it out before installing CFMX and it
>> won't
>> connect. Apache is up and running and 127.0.0.1 works. What am I
>> missing?
>>
>> John Venable
>>
>
> John
>
> Use the following:
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8000/
>
> to start the JRun JMC
>
> use the JMC to start the defaul server  port 8100 (or whatever server
> you used to deploy CFMX)
>
> Then use
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8100/cfusion
>
> to launch cf setup
>
> To connect to Apache,  run:
>
> /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig
>
> and follow the GUI
>
> Once connected, you can access CFMX with
>
> http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/
>
> where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server isntance that you
> connected to Apache.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
> 

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Stopping an endless loop

[Luis Lebron]

I accidentally created an endless cfloop (which includes a cfmail tag!!!).
How do I stop it.


Help!!!


Luis

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RE: CF_Authorize tag (repetitous)

[Rob Rohan]

Just to point out, there is a difference between "free" and "open source"

I thought all payment processing tags were free, but the accounts cost money
(never had to by the tag before...)

I don't know where sorry, google?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Dowdell, Jason G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF_Authorize tag (repetitous)

Hi All,

Just wanted to know if anyone had an open source tag
for posting transactions to Authorize.net.  I know there
are some available from devexchange but they're not
free and this is for pro-bono work (trying to keep costs down).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I can give out the probono client information for verification
purposes in a one-on-one manner.


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Re: Stopping an endless loop

[Scott Brady]

1) If you have access to the server itself, stop the CF server entirely.  That should 
take care of it.

2) If it's happening on a browser page, change the code so there isn't a loop, save 
it, and refresh the page.

I'm sure there are other options that might be cleaner, but those SHOULD take care of 
it quick-and-dirty-like.

Scott

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Re: include_once (PHP)

[Sean A Corfield]

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 07:54 US/Pacific, Jesse Houwing wrote:
> 
> 
>  including: #attributes.template#
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Tested and verified it. There is one small problem though, I found that
> if you include a file into itself the Coldfusion service immidiately
> restarts. This should not happen, but I haven't been able to prevent 
> it.

I think that's because your code would generate an infinite loop. Swap 
the cfinclude and the cfset lines above and that should fix it.

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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Sean A Corfield]

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 07:07 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
> migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have "legacy" CF 4.5 
> or 5.0
> applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
> development in J2EE. Therefore, the lack of support for CFMX features 
> is a
> non-issue, and the few CF5 features BlueDragon doesn't support are 
> similarly
> a non-issue.

That's interesting. I figured BlueDragon and Macromedia ColdFusion MX 
were aimed at different markets but that's the first time I've gotten a 
real handle on the BD target market. It's a shame that some CF folks 
are going that way but it's better than them going to .NET I guess :)

Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which 
applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free ones 
like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I ask because I 
know you went to a lot of effort to support some of the commercial app 
servers (BD's WAR creation wizard has specific check boxes for one of 
them but I can't remember which).

> We also have some other things under development that we think will be 
> very
> interesting to the CFML community, things that CF5/MX can't do. Stay
> tuned...

It's an exciting time for CFML!

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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Sean A Corfield]

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 06:55 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE 
> server,
> but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for 
> development
> (like CFMX), so there's no cost for the development machines to create 
> the
> WARs.

Could you clarify something for me Vince? The free developer edition 
cannot create WARs - you need a deployment license to actually create 
the WAR files, yes?

It also seems you would only need one such license in an entire CF shop 
since folks can develop locally and then copy all the CF code to the 
server that has WAR creation enabled and create your Web Application 
archive (not much money to be made from that tho').

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Per CPU / Per User (was: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Sean A Corfield]

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:56 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> Interesting, though, the Mac OS Server software does not charge per CPU
> -- here's a quote from the apple site:
>
> No per-user “taxes”
> Xserve lets you eliminate the most galling expense in your department’s
> budget: the per-user “tax” you’ve been obliged to pay for using server
> software. Since Xserve comes with an unlimited-client license for the
> UNIX-based, industrial-strength Mac OS X Server, you can serve
> thousands of additional users — without spending thousands of
> additional dollars in licensing fees.

Note that Apple is talking about per USER licensing, not per CPU 
licensing. If you buy a 2 CPU JRun license for your dual CPU Xserve, 
you can handle an unlimited number of users.

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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Sean A Corfield]

Good points, all round. Thanx Dick! I've forwarded this to the product 
team (and cc'd Christian of course).

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:41 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
>>> One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the
>>> installation
>>> proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
>>> comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of
>>> developers who don't have a lot of experience with server 
>>> installation
>>> and maintenance. Rather than running terminal sessions and editing
>>> config files, have an option for "basic install" that does all these
>>> things for you.
>>
>> Could you give some specific examples about what needs to be improved
>> here?
>>
>> I agree that being given a .jar file is not quite as user-friendly as
>> some people might expect but it really isn't that bad:
>>
>>  java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar
>>
>> (run through the GUI installer which dumps a CFMXJ2ee folder 
>> somewhere)
>>
>
> I would at least change the default folder (directory).  Currently, the
> CFMF installer uses:
>
> /opt
>
> which is hidden on Jaguar (Jag-wire, as pronounced by Steve)
>
>
>> In JMC (JRun Management Console), Create New Server (e.g., cfmx).
>>
>> Then:
>>  cd /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx
>   mkdir cfusion
>   mkdir CFIDE
>   cd CFIDE
>   jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/rds.war
>   cd ../cfusion
>>  jar xvf /CFMXJ2ee/cfusion.war
>>
>
> Then there is the step (step 9) configuring graphics support -- which I
> have found to be unnecessary, and can be ignored.
>
>> Are you suggesting make all of this go away? Doing the manual install
>> is pretty flexible and that's what many Unix folks would expect...
>
> I agree with this for experienced Unix users. This is especially true
> if you deploy multiple server instances and/or multiple cfmx contexts
> under a server instance.
>
> But I think some things that could be done to make it simpler and more
> Mac like (in the next update).  Have the default option (procdure):
>
> 1) Deploy from a single .ear file rather than 2 .war files
> 2) Hot deploy from the JRun JMC (maybe using the compressed,
> downloaded CFMX file as a source -- avoid the decompress and war/ear
> decision, altogether.
> 3) Include instructions on how to create a connector to Apache in
> the install procedure.
>
> Finally, make as much of the install procedure as possible automatic
> for first time users by providing a shell script and/or
> double-clickabble program with all the defaults set and the proper
> actions taken to install/deplow a single server with a single cfmx
> context and a single CFIDE context -- a "quick-start" option.
>
> I especially like the way that JRun installs:
>
>  Download
>  Automatic Decompress
>  Double-Click Installer
>  Default path = /Applications/JRun4
>
> (This coming from the guy who built the "Ugly Port" procedure)
>
> But, like Joshua and others have said, I am happy with what MM has
> provided) -- It is no more difficult than installing/deploying other
> applications.
>
> Dick

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Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

[Sean A Corfield]

On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:16 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
> You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly, 
> I
> want that kind of control, I happen to like the command-line. However,
> many, many Mac users are not hardcore Unix users - not yet anyway. A 
> lot
> of them are still skeptical of the Terminal as it's been unknown to 
> them
> until OSX came out.

Good point. I tend to forget that since I've been running Unix on top 
of my Macs for... hmm, best part of ten years. I used to have Tenon 
Intersystems' Mach Ten product running on my old 520c and my PowerMac 
Performa, back in the day (BSD 4.3 based on Mach 2.5 kernel, with 
X11R5). I think it's nice to see X11 natively available now...

> By the way, you can just double-click on that JAR file instead of
> typing: java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar

Shows how much of a command-line geek I am - that never occurred to me. 
For real hardcore, you can run it in console mode (useful for remote 
installs):

java -jar coldfusion-j2ee-java.jar -i console

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