RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Bud
On 1/31/03, Russ penned:
I don't mean to jump down your throat on that one, but do you have any
statistics on that?

I've used several hosts over the years, am using several now, and I can
only honestly count 1 that has used them.

Don't get me wrong, I've used it at home on a personal server, but
that's a fairly bold statement.

It's the only FTP server I've ever used, and the only one I've ever 
heard recommended. I don't personally know any Windows hosts that 
would consider anything else.
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Re: cfqueryparam and unicode

2003-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Marius Milosav wrote:
 Paul I have tried you example and I have the same result as before.
 
 With N'#text#'  is working (with or without cfprocessingDirective)
 with cfqueryparam is failing (with or without cfprocessingDirective)
 
 CFMX has updater 2 (version 6,0,0,55693)

Which driver?

Jochem

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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Kym Kovan
Hi all,

Coming in a bit late to this discussion.

We have evaluated Serv-U, Vermillion and Bulletproof in our hosting facility and while 
Serv-U appeared to be the best, and certainly was great to admin, including via CF, it 
had hassles as it was single threaded so heavy usage gave a bad performance hit. 
Whether this was current version or not and whether this is fixed I cannot say of the 
top of my head.

Vermillion gave no problems, could handle a client uploading many files simultaneously 
when creating a new site or whatever but gave us hassles with Mac FTP clients and 
other minor irritations.

We plumped for BulletProof and no-one is complaining :-)


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Yours,

Kym

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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Gurfein
We've used Serv-U for a number of years. Just a fantastic, robust, easy to 
use product that has never given us a moment's problem. You just can't go 
wrong with it.

At 05:11 AM 1/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On 1/31/03, Russ penned:
 I don't mean to jump down your throat on that one, but do you have any
 statistics on that?
 
 I've used several hosts over the years, am using several now, and I can
 only honestly count 1 that has used them.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I've used it at home on a personal server, but
 that's a fairly bold statement.

It's the only FTP server I've ever used, and the only one I've ever
heard recommended. I don't personally know any Windows hosts that
would consider anything else.
--

Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.twcreations.com/
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CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Townend
Hi all, were having a small issue in attempting to create CFMX datasources
programatically.  Has anyone managed to do this? Were running Win2k Adv
Server on MX with Updater 2 applied.



Using the following code where.

 * sample_ds is the database used to clone a new database
 * #cf_ds_name# is the name of the new cf database
 * #odbc_ds_name# is name of the ODBC DSN, which references an 
Excel spreadsheet

Result...

 * Datasource appears in Cold Fusion administrator
 * The correct ODBC DSN is shown
 * All variables are correct

But 

 * Datasource does not verify, you get this beauty..

Connection verification failed for data source: xl_ds_2119962272
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting 
to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other 
connectivity info.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in 
JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, 
URL, and other connectivity info.

And...

 * When you change the name of the datasource, and Submit, it is 
verified correctly (presumably having forced some code to execute)
 * Still works when you then change the datasource name back to the 
original
 * dumping the datasource structure before and after gives an 
identical result

So

 * Is there some additional code required to boot the datasource ?


Code...

!--- Create Cold Fusion Datasource ---
cflock name=serviceFactory type=exclusive timeout=10
 cfscript
 // Get a handle on datasources structure
 objFactory = CreateObject(java, 
coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory);
 objService = objFactory.getDataSourceService();
 dsources = objService.getDatasources();

 // Get a copy of the generic ds, configure, add to
datasources
 local_ds = Duplicate(dsources['sample_ds']);
 local_ds.name = #cf_ds_name#;
 local_ds.url = Replace(ds_copy.url,sample_ds,cf_ds_name);
 local_ds.urlmap.datasource = #odbc_ds_name#;
 local_ds.urlmap.connectionprops.datasource =
#cf_ds_name#;
 local_ds.valid = YES;

 dsources[#cf_ds_name#] = Duplicate(local_ds);

 objService.restart();

 /cfscript
/cflock


Any advice on how to procede further would be cool :)

Mikey


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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I stand by BPFTP Server, awesome and so easy to set up, even for the
non-techy.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Gurfein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2003 10:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?


We've used Serv-U for a number of years. Just a fantastic, robust, easy to 
use product that has never given us a moment's problem. You just can't go 
wrong with it.

At 05:11 AM 1/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On 1/31/03, Russ penned:
 I don't mean to jump down your throat on that one, but do you have any
 statistics on that?
 
 I've used several hosts over the years, am using several now, and I can
 only honestly count 1 that has used them.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I've used it at home on a personal server, but
 that's a fairly bold statement.

It's the only FTP server I've ever used, and the only one I've ever
heard recommended. I don't personally know any Windows hosts that
would consider anything else.
--

Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.twcreations.com/
954.721.3452


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Re: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Mike Townend wrote:
 
 Connection verification failed for data source: xl_ds_2119962272
 []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting 
 to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other 
 connectivity info.
 The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in 
 JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, 
 URL, and other connectivity info.

Can you get a more detailed error message?
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23602Method=Full


  * When you change the name of the datasource, and Submit, it is 
 verified correctly (presumably having forced some code to execute)

What if you don't change anything but submit again?


 !--- Create Cold Fusion Datasource ---
 cflock name=serviceFactory type=exclusive timeout=10
  cfscript
  // Get a handle on datasources structure
  objFactory = CreateObject(java, 
 coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory);
  objService = objFactory.getDataSourceService();
  dsources = objService.getDatasources();
 
  // Get a copy of the generic ds, configure, add to
 datasources
  local_ds = Duplicate(dsources['sample_ds']);
  local_ds.name = #cf_ds_name#;
  local_ds.url = Replace(ds_copy.url,sample_ds,cf_ds_name);
  local_ds.urlmap.datasource = #odbc_ds_name#;
  local_ds.urlmap.connectionprops.datasource =
 #cf_ds_name#;
  local_ds.valid = YES;
 
  dsources[#cf_ds_name#] = Duplicate(local_ds);
 
  objService.restart();
 
  /cfscript
 /cflock

This looks correct to me. The ODBC DSN is a preexisting one or are you 
using cfregistry to create it on the fly as well?

Jochem

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RE: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Townend
No we are going to try the debug Java driver this morning.

Yes we are creating the ODBC DSN on the fly with CFRegistry calls.

When you do not change anything and click submit the same error message
occurs..




-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Datasources


Can you get a more detailed error message?
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23602Method=Full

What if you don't change anything but submit again?

This looks correct to me. The ODBC DSN is a preexisting one or are you 
using cfregistry to create it on the fly as well?

Jochem

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RE: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Townend
With the debug driver, on clicking submit it returns

 * Connection verification failed for data source: xl_ds_797035751
* []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while 
attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC 
Driver][SequeLink Server]The specified data source is not defined..
* The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred 
in JDBCPool while attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: 
[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][SequeLink Server]The specified data source 
is not defined..



-Original Message-
From: Mike Townend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Datasources


No we are going to try the debug Java driver this morning.

Yes we are creating the ODBC DSN on the fly with CFRegistry calls.

When you do not change anything and click submit the same error message
occurs..




-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Datasources


Can you get a more detailed error message?
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23602Method=Full

What if you don't change anything but submit again?

This looks correct to me. The ODBC DSN is a preexisting one or are you 
using cfregistry to create it on the fly as well?

Jochem


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RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame

2003-01-31 Thread Darren Adams
Got it sorted now.
I needed to escape some characters in ColdFusion when I was setting the
url variable.

Cheers anyway
 -Original Message-
 From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 January 2003 14:38
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 I don't think Joshua meant for you to actually put in the brackets
around
 the framename, unless you didn't.
 
 Try throwing in an alert to see if you have the right path to the
frame's
 url
 alert(parent.framename.document.location.href);
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've tried what you suggested but, have got an expected identifier
 error.
 
 function openUrl(url)
   {
 //parent.frames[1].location.href = url;
 parent.[Content].document.location.href='url';
 //alert(url);
   }
 
 Have I missed something really obvious here ?
 
 Cheers,
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joshua Miller
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 29 January 2003 20:10
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
  parent.[name].document.location.href=page.cfm;
 
  That works for me.
 
  Joshua Miller
  Head Programmer / IT Manager
  Garrison Enterprises Inc.
  www.garrisonenterprises.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
 
 


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  From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:14 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 
  Afraid not,
 
  I have a cf script writing an xtree tree and it is the action
property
  of those tree items I am trying to use to open the url in the other
  frame.
 
  I am calling a javascript function to do this.
 
  I keep getting errors =(
 
 
  -Daz
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 29 January 2003 19:09
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
  
   Can you not just use the target attribute of the link. a
  href=what.htm
   target=framenamesomelink/a
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:40 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
  
  
   Hello All,
  
  
   Being a little dense today can anyone refresh my memory as to how
 you
   open up a link in another frame ?
  
   Is it
  
 Parent.framename.location.href = url;
  
   Or
 Parent.frames[1].location.href = url;
  
  
  
   Basically I just want a link from one frame to open in another.
  
   Any ideas ?
  
   -Cheers,
  
   Daz
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame

2003-01-31 Thread Darren Adams
That's ok,  I was being a little dense not seeing that one.

Got it sorted now, 

Thanks !

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 January 2003 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 Right, the brackets were to indicate that you change that value to the
 name of your frame - the name you specify in your frameset for that
 frame.
 
 Sorry, I should have been more clear.
 
 Joshua Miller
 Head Programmer / IT Manager
 Garrison Enterprises Inc.
 www.garrisonenterprises.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
 


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 -Original Message-
 From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:38 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 
 I don't think Joshua meant for you to actually put in the brackets
 around the framename, unless you didn't.
 
 Try throwing in an alert to see if you have the right path to the
 frame's url alert(parent.framename.document.location.href);
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've tried what you suggested but, have got an expected identifier
 error.
 
 function openUrl(url)
   {
 //parent.frames[1].location.href = url;
 parent.[Content].document.location.href='url';
 //alert(url);
   }
 
 Have I missed something really obvious here ?
 
 Cheers,
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joshua Miller
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 29 January 2003 20:10
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
  parent.[name].document.location.href=page.cfm;
 
  That works for me.
 
  Joshua Miller
  Head Programmer / IT Manager
  Garrison Enterprises Inc.
  www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
 
 


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  -Original Message-
  From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:14 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
 
 
  Afraid not,
 
  I have a cf script writing an xtree tree and it is the action
property
  of those tree items I am trying to use to open the url in the other
  frame.
 
  I am calling a javascript function to do this.
 
  I keep getting errors =(
 
 
  -Daz
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 29 January 2003 19:09
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
  
   Can you not just use the target attribute of the link. a
  href=what.htm
   target=framenamesomelink/a
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:40 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: [offtopic] Javascript to open a url in another frame
  
  
   Hello All,
  
  
   Being a little dense today can anyone refresh my memory as to how
 you
   open up a link in another frame ?
  
   Is it
  
 Parent.framename.location.href = url;
  
   Or
 Parent.frames[1].location.href = url;
  
  
  
   Basically I just want a link from one frame to open in another.
  
   Any ideas ?
  
   -Cheers,
  
   Daz
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
  With CFMX, I thought all the data source entries were stored in an XML 
configuration file, not in a registry (Like it was with CF5 ).

At 11:34 AM 1/31/2003 +, you wrote:

No we are going to try the debug Java driver this morning.

Yes we are creating the ODBC DSN on the fly with CFRegistry calls.

When you do not change anything and click submit the same error message
occurs..




-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Datasources


Can you get a more detailed error message?
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23602Method=Full

What if you don't change anything but submit again?

This looks correct to me. The ODBC DSN is a preexisting one or are you
using cfregistry to create it on the fly as well?

Jochem


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Re: cfqueryparam and unicode

2003-01-31 Thread Marius Milosav
With Paul help I have the problem resolved.
There is a check box in CF Admin,  for a datasource where you can force to
use unicode strings. Once that one was checked the cfqueryparam properly
saved the info.
Putting N in front of the string to be inserted is forcing the string to be
unicode.

I think it will be wise if MM will add that as a note in the cfqueryparam
docs.

thanks
Marius
- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam and unicode


 Marius Milosav wrote:
  Paul I have tried you example and I have the same result as before.
 
  With N'#text#'  is working (with or without cfprocessingDirective)
  with cfqueryparam is failing (with or without cfprocessingDirective)
 
  CFMX has updater 2 (version 6,0,0,55693)

 Which driver?

 Jochem

 
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RE: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Mike Townend
Yes but we are trying to connect to an XL Spreadsheet as a datasource, and
so to do that we use CFRegistry to create an ODBC datasource pointing to the
xls sheet, then we create an odbc socket connection in CF.

The ODBC part works a dream (as its similar code that we were running on a
CF5 box), its just the MX integration that's having the issue :(


Mikey


-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 13:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Datasources


  With CFMX, I thought all the data source entries were stored in an XML 
configuration file, not in a registry (Like it was with CF5 ).

At 11:34 AM 1/31/2003 +, you wrote:

No we are going to try the debug Java driver this morning.

Yes we are creating the ODBC DSN on the fly with CFRegistry calls.

When you do not change anything and click submit the same error message 
occurs..




-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Datasources


Can you get a more detailed error message? 
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23602Method=Full

What if you don't change anything but submit again?

This looks correct to me. The ODBC DSN is a preexisting one or are you 
using cfregistry to create it on the fly as well?

Jochem



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Re: cfqueryparam and unicode

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Hastings
 Which driver?

he missed the use unicode parameter for that dsn. if you force a N'
hint/flag in a sql server statement the database knows what's unicode 
what's not unicode. when switching to cfqueryparam there's nothing to hint
to the database that any chunk of text is unicode. so you need to turn it on
in the driver.

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Secure Email

2003-01-31 Thread Andy Ewings
Anyone know if it is possible to pass a username and password to a mail
server using the CFMAIL tag?
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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Matt, et al...

Now that I know its a great FTP server,
which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
from within Serv-U without any issues?

In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
administration on Windows 2000 Server?

Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
on usage, etc.?

Thanks,

Rick




  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?


  Hi Rick,

  I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
  my ISPs used
  it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
  invaluable
  feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
  give a user
  access to different directories which aren't necessaily
  grouped together.

  Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
  own question :D

  --Matt Robertson--
  MSB Designs, Inc.
  http://mysecretbase.com

  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
  Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?


   HI, Matt.
  
   I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
   but still not sure what it's used for.
   Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
   with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
   setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
  
   I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
  
   (Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
  User FTP accounts
   on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
   Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
  
   Rick
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
   
   
 http://serv-u.com :D
   
 I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.
   
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 date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100
   
 Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
 Where do I find
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Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread S V
Greetings:

My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project in 
Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0  and  
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ixltd@postone.com SqlSnake - is it shutdown ?

2003-01-31 Thread Mahmut
does anybody know if the SqlSnake email accounts are shutdowned ?

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RE: CFC Question

2003-01-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ok, so in your example, Invoice has-a Ordering Person, how do I set
FirstName?

Invoice.OrderingPerson.setFirst(Sean); ?

Will this automatically go to Person.cfc and execute setFirst method?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC Question


On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 21:58 US/Pacific, Andy Ousterhout wrote:
 OK, I am hooked after only a few hours on CFC's.  This is so much
 easier to
 code that what I was trying to do with modules  includes in 5.0

:)

 For the sake of discussion, lets also say I have another component
 called
 Invoice that needs two Person objects, one for Ordering Person and
 another
 for Ship To person.  I can't just use extends because that creates a
 single
 person instance.   How do I code this?

extends represents an is-a relationship:

car is-a vehicle

so

!--- car.cfc ---
cfcomponent extends=vehicle
...
/cfcomponent

is a reasonable model.

has-a is modeled by 'containment' - having data members:

Invoice has-a Ordering Person
Invoice has-a ShipTo Person

so

!--- invoice.cfc ---
cfcomponent
cffunction name=create
cfargument name=shipto type=person
cfargument name=orderer type=person
cfset this.shipto = arguments.shipto
cfset this.orderer = arguments.orderer
/cffunction
/cfcomponent

Hope that helps?

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Re: CFMX Datasources

2003-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Mike Townend wrote:
 With the debug driver, on clicking submit it returns
 
  * Connection verification failed for data source: xl_ds_797035751
 * []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while 
 attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC 
 Driver][SequeLink Server]The specified data source is not defined..
 * The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred 
 in JDBCPool while attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: 
 [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][SequeLink Server]The specified data source 
 is not defined..

Looks like you need something extra to define the datasource in the CF 
MX ODBC Service. There is a bunch of scripts in the /db/ subdirectory 
that appear to play some role in this, but I haven't been digging into 
that part yet (actually, I try to stay away from ODBC as far as possible).

Jochem


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RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread Kris Pilles
Resume attached.  Please consider me for your opening.  I am currently
seeking a 6 month position prior to returning to school for my MBA.  If
you have any questions or if you would like to speak with me further,
please feel free to contact me directly.

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-Original Message-
From: S V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


Greetings:

My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project in 
Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0  and

MX. Please provide MSDoc resume and recent URLs.


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RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread Kris Pilles
I hate it when that happens

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


Resume attached.  Please consider me for your opening.  I am currently
seeking a 6 month position prior to returning to school for my MBA.  If
you have any questions or if you would like to speak with me further,
please feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you.

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-Original Message-
From: S V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


Greetings:

My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project in 
Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0  and

MX. Please provide MSDoc resume and recent URLs.


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RE: CFC Question - Found Answer

2003-01-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/supsub.html

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFC Question


Ok, so in your example, Invoice has-a Ordering Person, how do I set
FirstName?

Invoice.OrderingPerson.setFirst(Sean); ?

Will this automatically go to Person.cfc and execute setFirst method?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC Question


On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 21:58 US/Pacific, Andy Ousterhout wrote:
 OK, I am hooked after only a few hours on CFC's.  This is so much
 easier to
 code that what I was trying to do with modules  includes in 5.0

:)

 For the sake of discussion, lets also say I have another component
 called
 Invoice that needs two Person objects, one for Ordering Person and
 another
 for Ship To person.  I can't just use extends because that creates a
 single
 person instance.   How do I code this?

extends represents an is-a relationship:

car is-a vehicle

so

!--- car.cfc ---
cfcomponent extends=vehicle
...
/cfcomponent

is a reasonable model.

has-a is modeled by 'containment' - having data members:

Invoice has-a Ordering Person
Invoice has-a ShipTo Person

so

!--- invoice.cfc ---
cfcomponent
cffunction name=create
cfargument name=shipto type=person
cfargument name=orderer type=person
cfset this.shipto = arguments.shipto
cfset this.orderer = arguments.orderer
/cffunction
/cfcomponent

Hope that helps?

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
  Not completely your fault.
  They posted to the wrong list.
  cf-jobs automatically response to the author, not the list.


At 09:08 AM 1/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:

I hate it when that happens

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


Resume attached.  Please consider me for your opening.  I am currently
seeking a 6 month position prior to returning to school for my MBA.  If
you have any questions or if you would like to speak with me further,
please feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you.

Kris Pilles
631-765-3724 Home
516-449-2783 Cell
631-549-4900x267 Work

-Original Message-
From: S V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


Greetings:

My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project in
Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0  and

MX. Please provide MSDoc resume and recent URLs.


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RE: CFCs - property access best practices

2003-01-31 Thread Raymond Camden
CFCs can go in 3 places:

Webroot (and under web root)
CF mappings folders
Custom tag paths

Where you put them depends on how you want to use them. If you plan on
using Flash Remoting (or using the CFC as a web service), you need to
put it under the webroot. 

p.s. You can also build a CFC to handle remote calls that works as a
'broker' for your CFCs not under webroot. I believe SCorfield has an
article about that on macromedia.com.

===
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFCs - property access best practices
 
 
 Where do I put my CFC files so that CF finds them?  Root 
 directory?  Do I need to define the location within Admin?
 
 Andy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:02 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: CFCs - property access best practices
 
 
   Furthermore, you want to use the unnamed scope for
   your instance data
   (and this seems to be a popular idiom):
  
 !--- person.cfc ---
 cfcomponent
 !--- create a single 'handle' for your
   instance data: ---
 cfset instance = structNew()
 
  What does:
  cfset instance = structNew()
 
  do for your component?
 
 If called from within one of the component's functions, it 
 would overwrite the structure instance with a new, empty 
 structure, so all of the keys within the original structure 
 would be lost. It can't be called outside of the component, 
 since it's not exposed as a public member variable.
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/
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 fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread samcfug
As one who has Been there, Done that with FTP account administration on my
Win2k servers, I sincerely believe that by switching over to WU-FTP and
eventually disabling the IIS version of FTP on your servers will make you wonder
just how you have lived this long without it.   The convenience for the user,
and ease of administration gives the product a lot of points..  Not to mention
you will be looking for something to do with all the time you will be saving.

Sure there are other FTP server Applets in the marketplace, but I really believe
this one has the larger share of the market, and as you can tell by all the
comments from middle to very large hosts, it has become an essential to their
software collection.

I just can't say it any plainer than that. (I don't even work for them or own
any of their stock)


=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?


| Hi, Matt, et al...
|
| Now that I know its a great FTP server,
| which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
| I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
| works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
| be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
| from within Serv-U without any issues?
|
| In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
| administration on Windows 2000 Server?
|
| Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
| regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
| because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
| on usage, etc.?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
|   -Original Message-
|   From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
|   To: CF-Talk
|   Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
| 
| 
|   Hi Rick,
| 
|   I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
|   my ISPs used
|   it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
|   invaluable
|   feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
|   give a user
|   access to different directories which aren't necessaily
|   grouped together.
| 
|   Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
|   own question :D
| 
|   --Matt Robertson--
|   MSB Designs, Inc.
|   http://mysecretbase.com
| 
|   - Original Message -
|   From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
|   Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
| 
| 
|HI, Matt.
|   
|I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
|but still not sure what it's used for.
|Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
|with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
|setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
|   
|I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
|   
|(Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
|   User FTP accounts
|on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
|Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
|   
|Rick
|   
|   
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
|
|
|  http://serv-u.com :D
|
|  I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.
|
|  ---
|   Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
|  ---
|
|
|  -- Original Message
|   --
|  From: Tilbrook, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100
|
|  Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
|  Where do I find
|  it?
|  
|  ==
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|  Internet Applications Developer
|  Australian Building Codes Board
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Re: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread samcfug
This would be best posted in CF-JOBS

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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:43 AM
Subject: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ


| Greetings:
| 
| My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project in 
| Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0  and  
| MX. Please provide MSDoc resume and recent URLs.
| 
| 
| Sam
| 
| 
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RE: Needed 3 Cold Fusion Developers in Northern NJ

2003-01-31 Thread Angel Stewart
Who reads CF-Jobs anyways? 
:)

-Gel


-Original Message-
From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

This would be best posted in CF-JOBS

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From: S V [EMAIL PROTECTED]

| Greetings:
| 
| My client is looking for 3  hourly contractors for a 6 month project 
| in
| Northern NJ. Must have SQL server/Oracle, Stores Procedures, CF 5.0
and  
| MX. Please provide MSDoc resume and recent URLs.
| 
| 
| Sam

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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Ryan Kime
Can it use an external database for user management? ODBC or JDBC?

-Original Message-
From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?


As one who has Been there, Done that with FTP account administration on my
Win2k servers, I sincerely believe that by switching over to WU-FTP and
eventually disabling the IIS version of FTP on your servers will make you
wonder
just how you have lived this long without it.   The convenience for the
user,
and ease of administration gives the product a lot of points..  Not to
mention you will be looking for something to do with all the time you will
be saving.

Sure there are other FTP server Applets in the marketplace, but I really
believe this one has the larger share of the market, and as you can tell by
all the comments from middle to very large hosts, it has become an essential
to their software collection.

I just can't say it any plainer than that. (I don't even work for them or
own any of their stock)


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- Original Message -
From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?


| Hi, Matt, et al...
|
| Now that I know its a great FTP server,
| which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
| I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
| works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
| be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc., from 
| within Serv-U without any issues?
|
| In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP administration 
| on Windows 2000 Server?
|
| Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's regular means 
| of FTP account manangement is desirable because it's simpler and 
| easier and provides more feedback on usage, etc.?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
|   -Original Message-
|   From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
|   To: CF-Talk
|   Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
| 
| 
|   Hi Rick,
| 
|   I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
|   my ISPs used
|   it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
|   invaluable
|   feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
|   give a user
|   access to different directories which aren't necessaily
|   grouped together.
| 
|   Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
|   own question :D
| 
|   --Matt Robertson--
|   MSB Designs, Inc.
|   http://mysecretbase.com
| 
|   - Original Message -
|   From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
|   Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
| 
| 
|HI, Matt.
|   
|I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
|but still not sure what it's used for.
|Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
|with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
|setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
|   
|I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
|   
|(Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
|   User FTP accounts
|on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
|Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
|   
|Rick
|   
|   
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
|
|
|  http://serv-u.com :D
|
|  I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.
|
|  ---
|   Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
|  ---
|
|
|  -- Original Message
|   --
|  From: Tilbrook, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100
|
|  Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
|  Where do I find
|  it?
|  
|  ==
|  Peter Tilbrook
|  Internet Applications Developer
|  Australian Building Codes Board
|  GPO Box 9839
|  CANBERRA ACT 2601
|  AUSTRALIA
|  
|WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/
| E-Mail: 

Re: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
samcfug wrote:
 As one who has Been there, Done that with FTP account administration on my
 Win2k servers, I sincerely believe that by switching over to WU-FTP and
 eventually disabling the IIS version of FTP on your servers will make you wonder
 just how you have lived this long without it.   The convenience for the user

How can one FTP server be more convenient as another one for the end 
user? They all implement the same protocol, don't they?

Jochem

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Re: ImageMagick and CFExecute

2003-01-31 Thread David Adams
Another thing when working with CFEXECUTE is to turnoff the output to 
screen of the outside process.  I have been caught many times on this 
where I get the outside process to give me something back and it tries 
to return it to screen and it tries and tries until is timesout.

Dave Adams
CFUG Ottawa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is this the same way CFMX treats a timeout value in a cflock ??

At 04:10 PM 1/30/2003 -0800, you wrote:
  

I don't think the issue you're having is a timeout issue.  The problem with
CFMX and CFEXECUTE is that the timeout attribute no longer works the way
it's supposed to.  In CF5 a timeout of 10 seconds meant that if your process
didn't return within the allotted timeout an error would be thrown.

In CFMX a timeout of 10 seconds means that you won't return from your
process for 10 seconds!  In other words, CFMX waits until the timeout value
is reached before coming back from the CFEXECUTE.  Very annoying.

Did you have any luck with ImageMagick and files on the local hard drive?
How about files in the same directory that ImageMagick is running in?  You
are using FULL paths on all filenames right?  Are you using UNC paths or
regular paths?

Write me off list and I'll send you a copy of the code I'm using with
ImageMagick.  Maybe it will get you going in the right direction.

-Novak


- Original Message -
From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: ImageMagick and CFExecute




OK, I'll bite ... what's the timeout issue?

After reading your suggestions, it occured to me that I had not tried
running CFExecute against a local file (instead of something off the
  

network


drive), so I did that, and I got this error:

An exception occurred when invoking an external process.

Which I'm guessing might be related to this cryptic reference you make to
CFEXECUTE and TIMEOUT.

I've search the macromedia site and the Web through google and found
  

nothing


helpful ... also looked at the docs for CFMX.

H.


  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ImageMagick and CFExecute

Make sure that your CFMX server is set up with the appropriate
permissions.
Also, make sure you're aware of the TIMEOUT issue with CFEXECUTE tag in
CFMX.  I doubt that's your problem but once you get everything working


it


will probably be your next question. ;-)

So, permissions would be the first thing I would check.

I'm using CFMX, CFEXECUTE, and ImageMagic without any problems.

-Novak

- Original Message -
From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: ImageMagick and CFExecute




I have an application I built on my CF 5.0 workstation (win2k), and it
  

was


working fine (outside of cfschedule bugginess).

I moved it to our new CFMX (win2k) machine, and I'm having some
  

problems


...


The application uses ImageMagick/GhostScript to convert PDFs to JPGs.
  

It


called IM through CFExecute.

I can run IM find through the command line ... put in the same exact
attributes that I'm using in my CFExecute tag, and everything works
perfectly.  But with CFExecute, I get an error.

Here is my CFExecute code and the error I get   anybody got any
  

ideas
as


to what is going on (again, all of this works on my own machine, IM
  

and


GS


are installed correctly on the new machine, and I've confirmed all the
  

path


and file names are correct)?

CODE:
cfsavecontent variable=debugReport
CFEXECUTE
NAME=E:\ImageMagick-5.5.3-Q8\mogrify.exe
ARGUMENTS=-format jpg \\webpdf\inserts\manual\test.pdf
\\webpdf\inserts\manual\test.jpg
TIMEOUT=200
/CFEXECUTE
/cfsavecontent


cfoutput#htmlcodeformat(debugReport)#/cfoutput


ERROR:

Error: /undefinedfilename in (and)
Operand stack:

Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
--nostringval--   2
  

%stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--


--nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   --nostringval--
--nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1012/1123(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:67/200(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: No such file or directory





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RE: CFCs - property access best practices

2003-01-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks.

I am so stoked about how easy this makes programming.  I am even starting to
understand OO programming, although I still don't get what a class is.  For
example, I thought that the Generic INVOICE was a class, while a specific
Invoice was an object.  Now I am just confused.

Oh well.  Keep coding and learn as you go.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFCs - property access best practices


CFCs can go in 3 places:

Webroot (and under web root)
CF mappings folders
Custom tag paths

Where you put them depends on how you want to use them. If you plan on
using Flash Remoting (or using the CFC as a web service), you need to
put it under the webroot.

p.s. You can also build a CFC to handle remote calls that works as a
'broker' for your CFCs not under webroot. I believe SCorfield has an
article about that on macromedia.com.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFCs - property access best practices


 Where do I put my CFC files so that CF finds them?  Root
 directory?  Do I need to define the location within Admin?

 Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:02 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: CFCs - property access best practices


   Furthermore, you want to use the unnamed scope for
   your instance data
   (and this seems to be a popular idiom):
  
 !--- person.cfc ---
 cfcomponent
 !--- create a single 'handle' for your
   instance data: ---
 cfset instance = structNew()
 
  What does:
  cfset instance = structNew()
 
  do for your component?

 If called from within one of the component's functions, it
 would overwrite the structure instance with a new, empty
 structure, so all of the keys within the original structure
 would be lost. It can't be called outside of the component,
 since it's not exposed as a public member variable.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
We run Win2K  Server and we've found that ServU is great

Had to upgrade to the latest version because of our firewall settings 
(locked down the ports and our IP is now stealth and without the upgrade 
some (not all) Unix and Mac customers were getting intermittent 
connections, failed connections... but once we did the upgrade we were able 
to resolve that.

When a new client needs FTP, it takes all of 45 seconds to give them unique 
password protected secure access including setting an upload quota.







At 08:42 AM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:
Hi, Matt, et al...

Now that I know its a great FTP server,
which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
from within Serv-U without any issues?

In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
administration on Windows 2000 Server?

Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
on usage, etc.?

Thanks,

Rick




   -Original Message-
   From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
 
 
   Hi Rick,
 
   I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
   my ISPs used
   it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
   invaluable
   feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
   give a user
   access to different directories which aren't necessaily
   grouped together.
 
   Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
   own question :D
 
   --Matt Robertson--
   MSB Designs, Inc.
   http://mysecretbase.com
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
   Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
 
 
HI, Matt.
   
I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
but still not sure what it's used for.
Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
   
I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
   
(Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
   User FTP accounts
on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
   
Rick
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?


  http://serv-u.com :D

  I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.

  ---
   Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
  ---


  -- Original Message
   --
  From: Tilbrook, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100

  Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
  Where do I find
  it?
  
  ==
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  Internet Applications Developer
  Australian Building Codes Board
  GPO Box 9839
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OT: XML Scheme for Region/Location (tds)

2003-01-31 Thread powell
You might try doing a GOOGLE search on +GEDCOM +XML and checking out the documents 
that come up.  GEDCOM is a genealogy software standard for interchanging data between 
applications.  There was a big effort a few years ago to come up with an XML spec for 
it, which included among other things the representation for a source document's exact 
location.

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RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Dworman
cfscript
structdelete(session, varName);
/cfscript

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Deleting session variables

Using CF5.

I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them 
and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID)
/cflock

But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I put 
this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still exist.

CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

Is there a way to delete them completely?

T


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RE: Oracle and CF5

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Dworman
Exactly.

-Original Message-
From: Lincoln Milner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Oracle and CF5

The Administrator just verifies it can connect to the datasource.  It's not
until you actually try querying something that the user tries to access any
schema.

So, if your CF user only has (I think) CREATE SESSION privileges, it can
connect to Oracle, but without permission to schema objects, it can't do
anything.

Verify the cfuser that you're connecting to the DB as has the privileges it
needs to do what you're attempting.  Conversely, using username  password
defined in the cfquery tag will override any DSN settings, and connect as
the user specified in the username attribute.

FWIW

-Original Message-
From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Oracle and CF5


If I add that it works. But that is not an option.
Other workstations are NOT using the parameters on
the queries. In CFADMIN, the paramters are on the
Datasource Connection and verifies without hesitation.

If CF login did not have access to the schema, why would
the ADMINISTRATOR be able to verify the connection? 

Suggestions ???

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/03 10:56AM 
Are you sure the cf login has access to the schema?

Just to make sure add username=username here and password=password
here
to the cfquery.


-Original Message-
From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Oracle and CF5

I have on my localbox the oracle client and running pages locally.
In CFADMIN I have the Native Datasource set for a DSN of: MyDevData

Then it will verify w/o a problem. Yes in CFADMIN there is a username
and password to the datasource.

When I try to run a page in CF that has a query similar to the one
shown
below, I get the error:
[Oracle][ODBC][Ora]ORA-01005: null password given; logon denied 

CFQUERY NAME=qGetAppName DATASOURCE=MyDevData
SELECT  Dev_Application_Name
FROMtblDev_Applications
/CFQUERY

Why does it verify perfectly in CFADMIN and not when it is ran on a 
normal CFM page?

Other users within my development team can run the same items
without a problem.

Suggestions?





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RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Pascal Peters
You should check
CFIF IsDefined(session.MissedQuestionID)
MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: vrijdag 31 januari 2003 16:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Deleting session variables


Using CF5.

I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them

and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID) /cflock

But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I
put 
this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still
exist.

CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

Is there a way to delete them completely?

T


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Re: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread samcfug
Pickey, pickey  :-)

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
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- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?


| samcfug wrote:
|  As one who has Been there, Done that with FTP account administration on my
|  Win2k servers, I sincerely believe that by switching over to WU-FTP and
|  eventually disabling the IIS version of FTP on your servers will make you
wonder
|  just how you have lived this long without it.   The convenience for the user
|
| How can one FTP server be more convenient as another one for the end
| user? They all implement the same protocol, don't they?
|
| Jochem
|
| 
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Re: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread WebMaster
For one thing you should always scope your reference to a var.  It is
possible that somewhere on the page, or in the URL, or in a FORM var, you
passed one with the same name as your session var.

- Original Message -
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:32 AM
Subject: Deleting session variables


 Using CF5.

 I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them
 and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

 cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID)
 /cflock

 But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I
put
 this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still exist.

 CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
 MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
 /CFIF

 Is there a way to delete them completely?

 T

 
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RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:55 PM 01/31/03 +0100, Pascal Peters wrote:
You should check
CFIF IsDefined(session.MissedQuestionID)
 MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

Of course.  How stupid of me.  :) Thanks.

T

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RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
True, I do agree that you should scope everything but ColdFusion doesn't
strictly enforce it so you dont have to (whos fault is that?), also with a
good naming convention you really shouldn't have any naming conflicts - not
a page  by page level at least.

-Original Message-
From: WebMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2003 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Deleting session variables


For one thing you should always scope your reference to a var.  It is
possible that somewhere on the page, or in the URL, or in a FORM var, you
passed one with the same name as your session var.

- Original Message -
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:32 AM
Subject: Deleting session variables


 Using CF5.

 I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them
 and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

 cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID)
 /cflock

 But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I
put
 this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still exist.

 CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
 MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
 /CFIF

 Is there a way to delete them completely?

 T

 

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RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Burcham, Steve
To delete the session vars use

cfset StructDelete(Session, VarName)

 
Steve Burcham

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Deleting session variables


Using CF5.

I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them 
and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID)
/cflock

But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I put 
this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still exist.

CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

Is there a way to delete them completely?

T


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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Rafael...

Is it necessary to make any changes to Win2K server
when using Serv-U?

Do I have to disable IIS FTP management to use it,
as someone mentioned with another FTP management tool?

Or just install it and use it, leaving Win2K Server as is?

Thanks for the info...

Rick


  -Original Message-
  From: Rafael Alan Bleiweiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:09 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great


  We run Win2K  Server and we've found that ServU is great

  Had to upgrade to the latest version because of our firewall
  settings
  (locked down the ports and our IP is now stealth and without
  the upgrade
  some (not all) Unix and Mac customers were getting intermittent
  connections, failed connections... but once we did the
  upgrade we were able
  to resolve that.

  When a new client needs FTP, it takes all of 45 seconds to
  give them unique
  password protected secure access including setting an upload quota.







  At 08:42 AM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:
  Hi, Matt, et al...
  
  Now that I know its a great FTP server,
  which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
  I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
  works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
  be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
  from within Serv-U without any issues?
  
  In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
  administration on Windows 2000 Server?
  
  Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
  regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
  because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
  on usage, etc.?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Rick
  
  
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
   
   
 Hi Rick,
   
 I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
 my ISPs used
 it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
 invaluable
 feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
 give a user
 access to different directories which aren't necessaily
 grouped together.
   
 Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
 own question :D
   
 --Matt Robertson--
 MSB Designs, Inc.
 http://mysecretbase.com
   
 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
 Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
   
   
  HI, Matt.
 
  I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
  but still not sure what it's used for.
  Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
  with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
  setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
 
  I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that
  the benefit?
 
  (Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
 User FTP accounts
  on my server, unless the user is part of the
  Administrator Group.
  Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
 
  Rick
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
  
  
http://serv-u.com :D
  
I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.
  
---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---
  
  
-- Original Message
 --
From: Tilbrook, Peter
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100
  
Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon
  package Serv-U?
Where do I find
it?

  

RE: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:05 PM 01/31/03 +, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
True, I do agree that you should scope everything but ColdFusion doesn't
strictly enforce it so you dont have to (whos fault is that?), also with a
good naming convention you really shouldn't have any naming conflicts - not
a page  by page level at least.

Is there a good rule of thumb to follow for scoping variables?  Some 
variables are automatically scoped, I know, but is there a way to scope 
regular (page) variables?

T 

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Re: Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Clint Tredway
use the variables scope for page vars..

Clint

- Original Message -
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Deleting session variables


 At 04:05 PM 01/31/03 +, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 True, I do agree that you should scope everything but ColdFusion doesn't
 strictly enforce it so you dont have to (whos fault is that?), also with
a
 good naming convention you really shouldn't have any naming conflicts -
not
 a page  by page level at least.

 Is there a good rule of thumb to follow for scoping variables?  Some
 variables are automatically scoped, I know, but is there a way to scope
 regular (page) variables?

 T

 
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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rafael Alan Bleiweiss
At 11:15 AM 1/31/03 -0500, you wrote:

Do I have to disable IIS FTP management to use it,
as someone mentioned with another FTP management tool?

It's been over a year since I installed it on the Win2k server. Don't 
remember if we deactivated that or not.  I do remember it being simple to 
set up.. 

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Deleting session variables

2003-01-31 Thread Thane Sherrington
Using CF5.

I setup two session variables on one page, and on the next, I check them 
and then at the end of the second page, I use this code to delete them.

cflock timeout=10 scope=Session type=Exclusive
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, MissedQuestionID)
   cfset tempvar=StructDelete(Session, CategoryID)
/cflock

But they don't get deleted.  It clears the values from them, but when I put 
this code immediately after the delete code, it tells me they still exist.

CFIF IsDefined(MissedQuestionID)
MissedQuestionID Still Defined.
/CFIF

Is there a way to delete them completely?

T

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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 Is it necessary to make any changes to Win2K server
 when using Serv-U?
 
 Do I have to disable IIS FTP management to use it,
 as someone mentioned with another FTP management tool?
 
 Or just install it and use it, leaving Win2K Server as
 is?

If you're running any other FTP server on the standard FTP port (21), you'll
have to turn it off before running another FTP server on that port. This
would include IIS's FTP server.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Re: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Robertson
You don't have to disable iis ftp, but you certainly should, since servu
replaces it entirely.  Only takes a few secs in the component services
cpanel list.

Cheers,

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CF: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Rahmin Pavlovic
Ok - so I have several standards I use that I'd like to abstract into a more
global format. Like, to always capitalize the first letter of a string I use
this method frequently:

#UCase(Left(LCase(str), 1))##Mid(LCase(str), 2, Len(LCase(str)))#

I do LCase() the string before capitalizing the first letter, but this is an
example of something I'd like to have automated, or in some global form.

So my first question is: can I create my own methods in CF?

If so that'd be hot lunch on a hot plate. In this example, I'd extend my
string object to include my own Capitalize() method, and all'd be toasty.

In JS this'd be something along the lines of

String.prototype.capitalize=function() {
return this.substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
this.substring(1,this.length).toLowerCase();
}

Does any know if there is an OO equivalent in CF?

So my second question is: would something like this be better accomplished
as a custom tag, and if so, is there a way to include a global library of
stuff like this? Like, if I wanted to have my custom tag available in all
sub-directories, can I point all templates to say: /cflib/Capitalize.cfm ?

That'd be cool cause then I could just say something like

CF_Capitalize STRING=raHMIn

or better yet

CF_Capitalize STRING=#str#

I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the scope of this project and part of
that is abstracting functionality like this.

TIA for and and all tips n tricks.

R

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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
UDF = User Defined Functions

with
cffunction name= or cfscript function ...

Check out cflib.org for examples (lots)
including

CapFirst(string)
Returns the string with the first character of each word capitalized.
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=9

Nice one RayC.

WG


 -Original Message-
 From: Rahmin Pavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 31 January 2003 17:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF: OOP, Custom Tags..


 Ok - so I have several standards I use that I'd like to abstract
 into a more
 global format. Like, to always capitalize the first letter of a
 string I use
 this method frequently:

 #UCase(Left(LCase(str), 1))##Mid(LCase(str), 2, Len(LCase(str)))#

 I do LCase() the string before capitalizing the first letter, but
 this is an
 example of something I'd like to have automated, or in some global form.

 So my first question is: can I create my own methods in CF?

 If so that'd be hot lunch on a hot plate. In this example, I'd extend my
 string object to include my own Capitalize() method, and all'd be toasty.

 In JS this'd be something along the lines of

 String.prototype.capitalize=function() {
 return this.substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
 this.substring(1,this.length).toLowerCase();
 }

 Does any know if there is an OO equivalent in CF?

 So my second question is: would something like this be better accomplished
 as a custom tag, and if so, is there a way to include a global library of
 stuff like this? Like, if I wanted to have my custom tag available in all
 sub-directories, can I point all templates to say: /cflib/Capitalize.cfm ?

 That'd be cool cause then I could just say something like

 CF_Capitalize STRING=raHMIn

 or better yet

 CF_Capitalize STRING=#str#

 I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the scope of this project
 and part of
 that is abstracting functionality like this.

 TIA for and and all tips n tricks.

 R

 
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Logging Slow pages probelm

2003-01-31 Thread UXBinfo
I have enabled logging of slow pages in our CF server to assist in tracking
down some performance issues.  However I get this on the log:

Warning,TID=101,01/31/03,11:47:42,Template: /index.cfm, Ran: 66
seconds.
Warning,TID=390,01/31/03,11:48:44,Template: /index.cfm, Ran: 85
seconds.

Now we host several domains on the server (Website/CF4.0.1) and they all use
an index.cfm.  How do I tell which ones were reported in the log?



Best regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A Web Design and Hosting Company
tel: (203)879-2844  fax: (203)879-6254
http://www.uxbinternet.com/
http://dennis.uxb.net/




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Missing CFMAGIC cookie??

2003-01-31 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Hi Folks
You know the three cookies that CFAPPLICATION sets when you use session
management... CFID, CFTOKEN, and CFMAGIC? (CFMAGIC is just CFID:CFTOKEN).
Well we just noticed that one of our development servers is not setting
CFMAGIC. I don't know when this happened, but it is weird.

Anybody have an idea as to why this might be happening?

My test is to clear cookies, then turn on cookie prompting (using NS4 at
this point), then hit a page. I see CFID and CFTOKEN coming, but no CFMAGIC.
Do the same test on a production server and you get all three.  

Development machine is running CF5 sp 2
Production machine is running CF5 sp 3

Thanks!

Mark
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CFMX on FreeBSD

2003-01-31 Thread Ben Arledge
Has anyone been able to get CFMX and FreeBSD working together? 

If so, have you experienced problems with this setup? Solutions?

And for the folks at Macromedia, is there a possibility that you will
support CF on this (superior) platform?


Thanks :)

Ben Arledge
www.arledge.net


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RE: Missing CFMAGIC cookie??

2003-01-31 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFMAGIC is only set if you have setDomainCookies set to true in your
CFAPPLICATION tag.  It's there to allow you to have multiple domains read
the same cookies to tie together a session across them.  I'd imagine that
you (or someone) accidentally removed that line from the CFAPPLICATION tag
on the dev server, but didn't publish to the production server.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Missing CFMAGIC cookie??


 Hi Folks
 You know the three cookies that CFAPPLICATION sets when you use session
 management... CFID, CFTOKEN, and CFMAGIC? (CFMAGIC is just
 CFID:CFTOKEN).
 Well we just noticed that one of our development servers is not setting
 CFMAGIC. I don't know when this happened, but it is weird.

 Anybody have an idea as to why this might be happening?

 My test is to clear cookies, then turn on cookie prompting (using NS4 at
 this point), then hit a page. I see CFID and CFTOKEN coming, but
 no CFMAGIC.
 Do the same test on a production server and you get all three.

 Development machine is running CF5 sp 2
 Production machine is running CF5 sp 3

 Thanks!

   Mark
 
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RE: CFMX on FreeBSD

2003-01-31 Thread Cantrell, Adam
Could you please update me on your findings if you find it through an
alternate source - I'm interested in this combination as well.

Adam.



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 Subject: CFMX on FreeBSD
 
 
 Has anyone been able to get CFMX and FreeBSD working together? 
 
 If so, have you experienced problems with this setup? Solutions?
 
 And for the folks at Macromedia, is there a possibility that you will
 support CF on this (superior) platform?
 
 
 Thanks :)
 
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RE: CFMX on FreeBSD

2003-01-31 Thread Joshua Miller
May be a total shot in the dark, but since Mac OSX is BSD at the core,
you could try the OSX CFMXJ2EE version on BSD.
I would bet money BlueDragon J2EE runs on BSD.

I don't claim any BSD knowledge though, just my first thought.

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Has anyone been able to get CFMX and FreeBSD working together? 

If so, have you experienced problems with this setup? Solutions?

And for the folks at Macromedia, is there a possibility that you will
support CF on this (superior) platform?


Thanks :)

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Re: CFC Question

2003-01-31 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Jan 31, 2003, at 05:52 US/Pacific, Andy Ousterhout wrote:
 Ok, so in your example, Invoice has-a Ordering Person, how do I set
 FirstName?

 Invoice.OrderingPerson.setFirst(Sean); ?

Not quite - see below.

   !--- invoice.cfc ---
   cfcomponent
   cffunction name=create
   cfargument name=shipto type=person
   cfargument name=orderer type=person
   cfset this.shipto = arguments.shipto
   cfset this.orderer = arguments.orderer
   /cffunction
   /cfcomponent

You use this as follows:

!--- create shipping person ---
cfset shiptoperson = createObject(component,person)
cfset shiptoperson.setFirstName(Sean)
!--- similarly, create an orderingperson ---
!--- set up invoice ---
cfset inv = createObject(component,invoice)
cfset inv.create(shiptoperson,orderingperson)

Or you can just use this scope to have publicly accessible data 
members:

cfset inv = createObject(component,invoice)
cfset inv.shipto = createObject(component,person)
cfset inv.shipto.setFirstName(Sean)
cfset inv.orderer = createObject(component,person)
cfset inv.orderer.setFirstName(Joe)

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OT: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own application
server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I could
compete I would just like to know how it is done.


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OT: Flash example...

2003-01-31 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Any of you aussies out there know who did this site?  Very cool. 

http://www.soh.nsw.gov.au/h/t_virtual_tour_fs1.html

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
Well AFIAK Bluedragon is basically a J2ee App (as is CFMX)
so you'll need to learn all about J2ee http://java.sun.com/j2ee/
Mostly servlets and Jsp/Tag libs/.

You can write you own tag type snytax using
Java Tag libs  look here
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html

You can also use these tags in CF using cfimport

WG



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 Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.


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 server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I could
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 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Small
Take a compiler class at a local university.  It will be plenty of
information.

There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one, The
Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which was
originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design (has been
updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of compiler
design.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201100886/qid=1044034661/
sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0796221-7752719?v=glances=books

It's really boring, though.  The class, when taught properly, is
amazing.   

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.

Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own
application
server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I
could
compete I would just like to know how it is done.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
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Digital Bay Media, Inc.
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Re: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Rahmin Pavlovic
why... have... I... not... seen... cfscript until.. now?

How excellent - I - can't - wait

I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell me if I can include all my
cfscripts in a separate doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not

This is great - thank you so much - I feel like a schoolgirl.


- Original Message -
From: webguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: OOP, Custom Tags..


 UDF = User Defined Functions

 with
 cffunction name= or cfscript function ...

 Check out cflib.org for examples (lots)
 including

 CapFirst(string)
 Returns the string with the first character of each word capitalized.
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=9

 Nice one RayC.

 WG


  -Original Message-
  From: Rahmin Pavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 31 January 2003 17:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF: OOP, Custom Tags..
 
 
  Ok - so I have several standards I use that I'd like to abstract
  into a more
  global format. Like, to always capitalize the first letter of a
  string I use
  this method frequently:
 
  #UCase(Left(LCase(str), 1))##Mid(LCase(str), 2, Len(LCase(str)))#
 
  I do LCase() the string before capitalizing the first letter, but
  this is an
  example of something I'd like to have automated, or in some global form.
 
  So my first question is: can I create my own methods in CF?
 
  If so that'd be hot lunch on a hot plate. In this example, I'd extend my
  string object to include my own Capitalize() method, and all'd be
toasty.
 
  In JS this'd be something along the lines of
 
  String.prototype.capitalize=function() {
  return this.substring(0,1).toUpperCase() +
  this.substring(1,this.length).toLowerCase();
  }
 
  Does any know if there is an OO equivalent in CF?
 
  So my second question is: would something like this be better
accomplished
  as a custom tag, and if so, is there a way to include a global library
of
  stuff like this? Like, if I wanted to have my custom tag available in
all
  sub-directories, can I point all templates to say: /cflib/Capitalize.cfm
?
 
  That'd be cool cause then I could just say something like
 
  CF_Capitalize STRING=raHMIn
 
  or better yet
 
  CF_Capitalize STRING=#str#
 
  I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the scope of this project
  and part of
  that is abstracting functionality like this.
 
  TIA for and and all tips n tricks.
 
  R
 
 
 
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RE: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great

2003-01-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks, Matt!

I'll give it a try...

Rick


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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U? on Win2K=great


  You don't have to disable iis ftp, but you certainly should,
  since servu
  replaces it entirely.  Only takes a few secs in the
  component services
  cpanel list.

  Cheers,

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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 why... have... I... not... seen... cfscript 
 until.. now?

You ... haven't ... read ... the ... documentation? It's in there.

If you're using CFMX, though, you might not even bother with it. Its
popularity is largely based on the fact that it's the only way to write
user-defined functions in CF 5. You can do a lot more (and do it better)
with the CFFUNCTION tag in CFMX.

 I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell 
 me if I can include all my cfscripts in a separate 
 doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not

Yes, you can certainly do that - it's a very popular thing to do with CF 5.
You can download entire prewritten libraries from cflib.org, then just
CFINCLUDE them at the top of pages as appropriate, if you like.

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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
 regular means of FTP account management is desirable
 because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
 on usage, etc.?

I think the answer to this will depend on what you're trying to accomplish.
Personally, I usually find the IIS FTP server to be sufficient for my uses,
but then again I'm not running a hosting company. The IIS FTP server has
some characteristics that will be advantages for some, and disadvantages for
others.

If you're providing FTP services to people who already have Windows accounts
in your domain, and aren't concerned about Windows account security
ramifications, IIS FTP is very nice, since you don't have to do any account
management at all - it simply uses your existing accounts. On the other
hand, if you want to provide non-anonymous FTP to a lot of people, you'll
probably prefer something that doesn't require you to add users to your
Windows user database.

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Barney Boisvert
If you want to use Java (which I'd recommend), baseically all you need to do
is come up with a language specification (or use CFML's), and then create a
system that will convert that language into Java source code, which can then
be compiled as you would any other Java class.  Along with that comes the
need to be able to do some reflection so that you can translate errors in
the Java back to the appropriate CFML (or whatever), as well as keep track
of when you need to update your Java files, based on the modification dates
of the templates.

In addition to the basic compilation, you'll also probably want to provide
functionality that Java doesn't provide, or at least encapsulate it into
more easily usable pieces, like CF does with CFQUERY and datasources.  Keep
in mind that you can also perform encapsulation with internal CFML (or
wahtever) templates, like CF does (for instance, CFDUMP and CFSAVECONTENT).
You'll definitely want to decide which pieces to encapulate first, or you'll
be throwing away alot of compilation work, because it'll become unneeded.

Apache Tomcat is a free Java Servlet container which would serve as a good
base, assuming you follow the CFML compiles to Java Servlets pattern, which
makes the most sense to me of the other options that come readily to mind.
I wouldn't worry about making deployment easy until you have a working
system, so I'd see the system initially working like this:

1) write the template in CFML or whatever
2) run a command line compiler to make the Java source
3) copy the Java source to the Tomcat application directory
4) load the pages and let Tomcat automatically compile the .java files into
.class files for you, as well as take care of putting them in the right
place in the filesystem.

Then once you have a langauge that you can use, you can start worrying about
rolling step 2-4 together.  You'll want a Tomcat app that encapsulates your
CFML-Java compiler, and then your CFML applications would be housed within
that application.  You'd want to set up an alternative mapping to your
compiler app so that it runs based on .cfm, rather like Struts' setup with
the .do extension.

Hopefully that all makes sense.

Footnote: I'm relying on logic here, not any actual experience working with
such a system, so don't flame me.  However, while I have no intention of
writing such a system, I'd be interested to hear feedback and suggestions.

barneyb

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 Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own application
 server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I could
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 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 
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RE: CFC Question

2003-01-31 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks.

I thought that you'd be able to hide the has-a relationship from the
accessing programs and perform this in the Invoice Object Methods.  I see
from this and documentation at Macromedia that the accessing program such as
the Invoice Form, create the relationship explicitly.

Again, thanks for taking the time to educate me.

Andy

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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC Question


On Friday, Jan 31, 2003, at 05:52 US/Pacific, Andy Ousterhout wrote:
 Ok, so in your example, Invoice has-a Ordering Person, how do I set
 FirstName?

 Invoice.OrderingPerson.setFirst(Sean); ?

Not quite - see below.

   !--- invoice.cfc ---
   cfcomponent
   cffunction name=create
   cfargument name=shipto type=person
   cfargument name=orderer type=person
   cfset this.shipto = arguments.shipto
   cfset this.orderer = arguments.orderer
   /cffunction
   /cfcomponent

You use this as follows:

!--- create shipping person ---
cfset shiptoperson = createObject(component,person)
cfset shiptoperson.setFirstName(Sean)
!--- similarly, create an orderingperson ---
!--- set up invoice ---
cfset inv = createObject(component,invoice)
cfset inv.create(shiptoperson,orderingperson)

Or you can just use this scope to have publicly accessible data
members:

cfset inv = createObject(component,invoice)
cfset inv.shipto = createObject(component,person)
cfset inv.shipto.setFirstName(Sean)
cfset inv.orderer = createObject(component,person)
cfset inv.orderer.setFirstName(Joe)

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
 There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one, The
 Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which was
 originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design (has been
 updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of compiler
 design.
 It's really boring, though.

The red dragon book boring What! Great book.

... but only really for those that want to build hard core compliers (i.e.
nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc (Yet
Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a compiler is just
1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
Building an OS is nirvana.

I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.

WG

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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
 If you're using CFMX, though, you might not even bother with it. Its
 popularity is largely based on the fact that it's the only way to write
 user-defined functions in CF 5. You can do a lot more (and do it better)
 with the CFFUNCTION tag in CFMX.

Really Dave ? I would say programmers coming from php,c,java,javascript
would find cfscript preferable in some a lot of cases.
I do. Especially for loops in loops etc...

Pity stuff like ==, != and i++ aren't is cfscript .

  I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell
  me if I can include all my cfscripts in a separate
  doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not

You can even put a function into application, session etc. scope.

WG

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RE: Flash example...

2003-01-31 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
http://www.soh.nsw.gov.au/h/credits.html

Gives you the site credits


~~
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Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional
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-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Flash example...


Any of you aussies out there know who did this site?  Very cool. 

http://www.soh.nsw.gov.au/h/t_virtual_tour_fs1.html


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RE: CFMX on FreeBSD

2003-01-31 Thread Ben Arledge
Yes, I wondered if it might work now that MacOSX (limited) support has
been added. Perhaps some Macromedia folks can shed some light on this?

BlueDragon really isn't an option for me as I really don't see it going
anywhere other than its small niche market.

Thanks :)

Ben Arledge
www.arledge.net


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX on FreeBSD


May be a total shot in the dark, but since Mac OSX is BSD at the core,
you could try the OSX CFMXJ2EE version on BSD. I would bet money
BlueDragon J2EE runs on BSD.

I don't claim any BSD knowledge though, just my first thought.

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Has anyone been able to get CFMX and FreeBSD working together? 

If so, have you experienced problems with this setup? Solutions?

And for the folks at Macromedia, is there a possibility that you will
support CF on this (superior) platform?


Thanks :)

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Re: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Dimo Michailov
We have been considering using more and more FTP (and of course, 
replacing the IIS default FTP server). One thing I am not sure, however, 
is whether Serv-U can handle authentication with NT domain accounts - we 
don't want to recreate all NT user accounts for FTP.

Anyone can throw something in here?

Thanks,

Dimo M.

samcfug wrote:
 As one who has Been there, Done that with FTP account administration on my
 Win2k servers, I sincerely believe that by switching over to WU-FTP and
 eventually disabling the IIS version of FTP on your servers will make you wonder
 just how you have lived this long without it.   The convenience for the user,
 and ease of administration gives the product a lot of points..  Not to mention
 you will be looking for something to do with all the time you will be saving.
 
 Sure there are other FTP server Applets in the marketplace, but I really believe
 this one has the larger share of the market, and as you can tell by all the
 comments from middle to very large hosts, it has become an essential to their
 software collection.
 
 I just can't say it any plainer than that. (I don't even work for them or own
 any of their stock)
 
 
 =
 Douglas White
 group Manager
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.samcfug.org
 =
 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:42 AM
 Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
 
 
 | Hi, Matt, et al...
 |
 | Now that I know its a great FTP server,
 | which is used to actually administer FTP accounts...
 | I want to make sure, before I install it, that it
 | works well with Windows 2000 Server and that I'll
 | be able to handle all FTP matters, including security, etc.,
 | from within Serv-U without any issues?
 |
 | In other words, works well as a replacement for FTP
 | administration on Windows 2000 Server?
 |
 | Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
 | regular means of FTP account manangement is desirable
 | because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
 | on usage, etc.?
 |
 | Thanks,
 |
 | Rick
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |   -Original Message-
 |   From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:15 AM
 |   To: CF-Talk
 |   Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
 | 
 | 
 |   Hi Rick,
 | 
 |   I learned of Serv-U back when I was on shared hosts.  All of
 |   my ISPs used
 |   it, so I bought it when I got into my own servers.  Another
 |   invaluable
 |   feature to add to the pile already discussed:  Its a snap to
 |   give a user
 |   access to different directories which aren't necessaily
 |   grouped together.
 | 
 |   Spend an hour with IIS and Serv-U each... you'll answer your
 |   own question :D
 | 
 |   --Matt Robertson--
 |   MSB Designs, Inc.
 |   http://mysecretbase.com
 | 
 |   - Original Message -
 |   From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |   Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:22 PM
 |   Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?
 | 
 | 
 |HI, Matt.
 |   
 |I've looked over Serv-U at their site,
 |but still not sure what it's used for.
 |Couldn't I do the same things, basically, that it does
 |with administration tools in Windows 2000 Server, like
 |setting up FTP accounts, etc.?
 |   
 |I saw the traffic analysis stuff...but is that the benefit?
 |   
 |(Although I've been unsuccessful trying to setup regular
 |   User FTP accounts
 |on my server, unless the user is part of the Administrator Group.
 |Haven't figured that one out, yet...)
 |   
 |Rick
 |   
 |   
 |  -Original Message-
 |  From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:20 PM
 |  To: CF-Talk
 |  Subject: Re: SOT: Serv-U?
 |
 |
 |  http://serv-u.com :D
 |
 |  I've used it for quite a while and prefer it.
 |
 |  ---
 |   Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |   MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
 |  ---
 |
 |
 |  -- Original Message
 |   --
 |  From: Tilbrook, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:16:41 +1100
 |
 |  Does anyone know who sells the FTP daemon package Serv-U?
 |  Where do I find
 |  it?
 |  
 |  ==
 |  Peter Tilbrook
 |  Internet 

RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Raymond Camden
   I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell
   me if I can include all my cfscripts in a separate
   doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not
 
 You can even put a function into application, session etc. scope.
 

Which is NOT recommended by Macromedia. You would need a cflock tag
everytime you call the UDF (prior to cfmx).

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
You have suggested an approach that is inline with ColdFusion MX, but
not BlueDragon as BlueDragon doesn't compile CFML into Java; it is a
Java based interpreter of CFML. This is a fundamental difference that
creates a completely different performance profile among other things.

Matt Liotta
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888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:03 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 If you want to use Java (which I'd recommend), baseically all you need
to
 do
 is come up with a language specification (or use CFML's), and then
create
 a
 system that will convert that language into Java source code, which
can
 then
 be compiled as you would any other Java class.  Along with that comes
the
 need to be able to do some reflection so that you can translate errors
in
 the Java back to the appropriate CFML (or whatever), as well as keep
track
 of when you need to update your Java files, based on the modification
 dates
 of the templates.
 
 In addition to the basic compilation, you'll also probably want to
provide
 functionality that Java doesn't provide, or at least encapsulate it
into
 more easily usable pieces, like CF does with CFQUERY and datasources.
 Keep
 in mind that you can also perform encapsulation with internal CFML (or
 wahtever) templates, like CF does (for instance, CFDUMP and
 CFSAVECONTENT).
 You'll definitely want to decide which pieces to encapulate first, or
 you'll
 be throwing away alot of compilation work, because it'll become
unneeded.
 
 Apache Tomcat is a free Java Servlet container which would serve as a
good
 base, assuming you follow the CFML compiles to Java Servlets pattern,
 which
 makes the most sense to me of the other options that come readily to
mind.
 I wouldn't worry about making deployment easy until you have a working
 system, so I'd see the system initially working like this:
 
 1) write the template in CFML or whatever
 2) run a command line compiler to make the Java source
 3) copy the Java source to the Tomcat application directory
 4) load the pages and let Tomcat automatically compile the .java files
 into
 .class files for you, as well as take care of putting them in the
right
 place in the filesystem.
 
 Then once you have a langauge that you can use, you can start worrying
 about
 rolling step 2-4 together.  You'll want a Tomcat app that encapsulates
 your
 CFML-Java compiler, and then your CFML applications would be housed
within
 that application.  You'd want to set up an alternative mapping to your
 compiler app so that it runs based on .cfm, rather like Struts' setup
with
 the .do extension.
 
 Hopefully that all makes sense.
 
 Footnote: I'm relying on logic here, not any actual experience working
 with
 such a system, so don't flame me.  However, while I have no intention
of
 writing such a system, I'd be interested to hear feedback and
suggestions.
 
 barneyb
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 
  Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own
 application
  server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I
 could
  compete I would just like to know how it is done.
 
  
  Bryan F. Hogan
  Director of Internet Development
  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
  1-877-72DIGITAL
  
 
 
 
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Makes perfect since. Thanks for your reply.

I think I have seen on Macromedia where you can download something like an
SDK for the SWF format, is there an equivalent to that for CF. Like a SDK,
rather than relying on the Docs and experience only.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.


If you want to use Java (which I'd recommend), baseically all you need to do
is come up with a language specification (or use CFML's), and then create a
system that will convert that language into Java source code, which can then
be compiled as you would any other Java class.  Along with that comes the
need to be able to do some reflection so that you can translate errors in
the Java back to the appropriate CFML (or whatever), as well as keep track
of when you need to update your Java files, based on the modification dates
of the templates.

In addition to the basic compilation, you'll also probably want to provide
functionality that Java doesn't provide, or at least encapsulate it into
more easily usable pieces, like CF does with CFQUERY and datasources.  Keep
in mind that you can also perform encapsulation with internal CFML (or
wahtever) templates, like CF does (for instance, CFDUMP and CFSAVECONTENT).
You'll definitely want to decide which pieces to encapulate first, or you'll
be throwing away alot of compilation work, because it'll become unneeded.

Apache Tomcat is a free Java Servlet container which would serve as a good
base, assuming you follow the CFML compiles to Java Servlets pattern, which
makes the most sense to me of the other options that come readily to mind.
I wouldn't worry about making deployment easy until you have a working
system, so I'd see the system initially working like this:

1) write the template in CFML or whatever
2) run a command line compiler to make the Java source
3) copy the Java source to the Tomcat application directory
4) load the pages and let Tomcat automatically compile the .java files into
.class files for you, as well as take care of putting them in the right
place in the filesystem.

Then once you have a langauge that you can use, you can start worrying about
rolling step 2-4 together.  You'll want a Tomcat app that encapsulates your
CFML-Java compiler, and then your CFML applications would be housed within
that application.  You'd want to set up an alternative mapping to your
compiler app so that it runs based on .cfm, rather like Struts' setup with
the .do extension.

Hopefully that all makes sense.

Footnote: I'm relying on logic here, not any actual experience working with
such a system, so don't flame me.  However, while I have no intention of
writing such a system, I'd be interested to hear feedback and suggestions.

barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:33 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.


 Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own application
 server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I could
 compete I would just like to know how it is done.

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 



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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a CFML
parser and basic interpreter. Further, I was able to port the code
generated with JavaCC to .NET using J# without too much issue thus
making a .NET CFML parser and interpreter. In fact, when I broke the
story on J# I used my CFML parser code as an example. See
http://archive.devx.com/dotnet/articles/lp100901/lp100901.asp if you are
interested.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:05 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
  There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one, The
  Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which was
  originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design (has
been
  updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of compiler
  design.
  It's really boring, though.
 
 The red dragon book boring What! Great book.
 
 ... but only really for those that want to build hard core compliers
(i.e.
 nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc (Yet
 Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a compiler is
 just
 1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
 Building an OS is nirvana.
 
 I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.
 
 WG
 
 
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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Barney Boisvert
I love CFSCRIPT.  less typing, and supposedly faster execution that
tag-based CF.  It is a pain that there aren't 'real' operators in it, but
such is life.  If I'm not actively outputing text, or doing something that
requires a tag (like queries), I'm usually in CFSCRIPT blocks.

 -Original Message-
 From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OOP, Custom Tags..


  If you're using CFMX, though, you might not even bother with it. Its
  popularity is largely based on the fact that it's the only way to write
  user-defined functions in CF 5. You can do a lot more (and do it better)
  with the CFFUNCTION tag in CFMX.

 Really Dave ? I would say programmers coming from php,c,java,javascript
 would find cfscript preferable in some a lot of cases.
 I do. Especially for loops in loops etc...

 Pity stuff like ==, != and i++ aren't is cfscript .

   I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell
   me if I can include all my cfscripts in a separate
   doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not

 You can even put a function into application, session etc. scope.

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Re: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Dinowitz
In CFMX there is no evidence of CFSCRIPT processing faster than the tag version
but I agree with you on its use. I use it for all my 'core' logic and for just
about all my UDFs as well. There's something clean about it over tags while
keeping much of the same read-ability.


 I love CFSCRIPT.  less typing, and supposedly faster execution that
 tag-based CF.  It is a pain that there aren't 'real' operators in it, but
 such is life.  If I'm not actively outputing text, or doing something that
 requires a tag (like queries), I'm usually in CFSCRIPT blocks.

  -Original Message-
  From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:07 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: OOP, Custom Tags..
 
 
   If you're using CFMX, though, you might not even bother with it. Its
   popularity is largely based on the fact that it's the only way to write
   user-defined functions in CF 5. You can do a lot more (and do it better)
   with the CFFUNCTION tag in CFMX.
 
  Really Dave ? I would say programmers coming from php,c,java,javascript
  would find cfscript preferable in some a lot of cases.
  I do. Especially for loops in loops etc...
 
  Pity stuff like ==, != and i++ aren't is cfscript .
 
I'll look into the syntax more, but can you tell
me if I can include all my cfscripts in a separate
doc? I can just make it a cfinclude, why not
 
  You can even put a function into application, session etc. scope.
 
  WG
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Small
You have an existing CFML parser for .NET?  Explain more, I am very
interested.

Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
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3660 Old Kings Hwy 
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
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-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.

There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a CFML
parser and basic interpreter. Further, I was able to port the code
generated with JavaCC to .NET using J# without too much issue thus
making a .NET CFML parser and interpreter. In fact, when I broke the
story on J# I used my CFML parser code as an example. See
http://archive.devx.com/dotnet/articles/lp100901/lp100901.asp if you are
interested.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:05 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
  There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one, The
  Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which was
  originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design (has
been
  updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of compiler
  design.
  It's really boring, though.
 
 The red dragon book boring What! Great book.
 
 ... but only really for those that want to build hard core compliers
(i.e.
 nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc (Yet
 Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a compiler is
 just
 1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
 Building an OS is nirvana.
 
 I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.
 
 WG
 
 

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
 There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a CFML

Cool, javaCC was that called Jack at some stage? 

WG



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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
  If you're using CFMX, though, you might not even 
  bother with it. Its popularity is largely based 
  on the fact that it's the only way to write
  user-defined functions in CF 5. You can do a lot 
  more (and do it better) with the CFFUNCTION tag 
  in CFMX.
 
 Really Dave ? I would say programmers coming from 
 php,c,java,javascript would find cfscript preferable 
 in some a lot of cases. I do. Especially for loops in 
 loops etc...

I might prefer the syntax of CFSCRIPT too, but that's easily outweighed by
the ability in CFFUNCTION to validate argument datatypes and requirements
with the TYPE and REQUIRED attributes of CFARGUMENT, and specify the return
datatype of the function using the RETURNTYPE attribute of CFFUNCTION. To
me, both of those things - and especially the first - make up for any syntax
preferences I might have for C-style code.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
I've done no FTP serving up to this point.
I had a client yesterday who asked about being able to
have a way to access documents on her PC at work
and at home, and I thought of an FTP site on my server.
(She's almost completely computer illiterate and doesn't
want to spend much money.)

That would mean she'd have to upload and download
documents...not the best solution...I thought about VPN
or something like that (that I've never dealt with either),
but that seemed more complicated and probably more costly...

I tried to setup an FTP on Win2K, but even with creating a User,
assigning permissions, and passwords, etc., I couldn't get in with
that User's password...seems like, based other comments in this
thread that each user has to have their own port...rather than the
default port of 21...didn't know that.  Maybe that's the problem.

Does IIS FTP not have the capability of allowing many users
on one port?  There's only so many ports available to use!  Right?

I guess Serv-U is set up to overcome that limitation by allowing
many users on one port...correct?

Rick



  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:57 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: SOT: Serv-U?


   Choosing to use Serv-U instead of Windows 2000 Server's
   regular means of FTP account management is desirable
   because it's simpler and easier and provides more feedback
   on usage, etc.?

  I think the answer to this will depend on what you're trying
  to accomplish.
  Personally, I usually find the IIS FTP server to be
  sufficient for my uses,
  but then again I'm not running a hosting company. The IIS
  FTP server has
  some characteristics that will be advantages for some, and
  disadvantages for
  others.

  If you're providing FTP services to people who already have
  Windows accounts
  in your domain, and aren't concerned about Windows account security
  ramifications, IIS FTP is very nice, since you don't have to
  do any account
  management at all - it simply uses your existing accounts.
  On the other
  hand, if you want to provide non-anonymous FTP to a lot of
  people, you'll
  probably prefer something that doesn't require you to add
  users to your
  Windows user database.

  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  voice: (202) 797-5496
  fax: (202) 797-5444

  
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
There is no SDK available and you can't rely on the docs because
sometimes they are either incomplete or just wrong.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 Makes perfect since. Thanks for your reply.
 
 I think I have seen on Macromedia where you can download something
like an
 SDK for the SWF format, is there an equivalent to that for CF. Like a
SDK,
 rather than relying on the Docs and experience only.
 
 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:03 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 
 If you want to use Java (which I'd recommend), baseically all you need
to
 do
 is come up with a language specification (or use CFML's), and then
create
 a
 system that will convert that language into Java source code, which
can
 then
 be compiled as you would any other Java class.  Along with that comes
the
 need to be able to do some reflection so that you can translate errors
in
 the Java back to the appropriate CFML (or whatever), as well as keep
track
 of when you need to update your Java files, based on the modification
 dates
 of the templates.
 
 In addition to the basic compilation, you'll also probably want to
provide
 functionality that Java doesn't provide, or at least encapsulate it
into
 more easily usable pieces, like CF does with CFQUERY and datasources.
 Keep
 in mind that you can also perform encapsulation with internal CFML (or
 wahtever) templates, like CF does (for instance, CFDUMP and
 CFSAVECONTENT).
 You'll definitely want to decide which pieces to encapulate first, or
 you'll
 be throwing away alot of compilation work, because it'll become
unneeded.
 
 Apache Tomcat is a free Java Servlet container which would serve as a
good
 base, assuming you follow the CFML compiles to Java Servlets pattern,
 which
 makes the most sense to me of the other options that come readily to
mind.
 I wouldn't worry about making deployment easy until you have a working
 system, so I'd see the system initially working like this:
 
 1) write the template in CFML or whatever
 2) run a command line compiler to make the Java source
 3) copy the Java source to the Tomcat application directory
 4) load the pages and let Tomcat automatically compile the .java files
 into
 .class files for you, as well as take care of putting them in the
right
 place in the filesystem.
 
 Then once you have a langauge that you can use, you can start worrying
 about
 rolling step 2-4 together.  You'll want a Tomcat app that encapsulates
 your
 CFML-Java compiler, and then your CFML applications would be housed
within
 that application.  You'd want to set up an alternative mapping to your
 compiler app so that it runs based on .cfm, rather like Struts' setup
with
 the .do extension.
 
 Hopefully that all makes sense.
 
 Footnote: I'm relying on logic here, not any actual experience working
 with
 such a system, so don't flame me.  However, while I have no intention
of
 writing such a system, I'd be interested to hear feedback and
suggestions.
 
 barneyb
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 
  Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own
 application
  server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I
 could
  compete I would just like to know how it is done.
 
  
  Bryan F. Hogan
  Director of Internet Development
  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
  1-877-72DIGITAL
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
I do, what do you want to know?

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 You have an existing CFML parser for .NET?  Explain more, I am very
 interested.
 
 Matthew Small
 IT Supervisor
 Showstopper National Dance Competitions
 3660 Old Kings Hwy
 Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
 843-357-1847
 http://www.showstopperonline.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a CFML
 parser and basic interpreter. Further, I was able to port the code
 generated with JavaCC to .NET using J# without too much issue thus
 making a .NET CFML parser and interpreter. In fact, when I broke the
 story on J# I used my CFML parser code as an example. See
 http://archive.devx.com/dotnet/articles/lp100901/lp100901.asp if you
are
 interested.
 
 Matt Liotta
 President  CEO
 Montara Software, Inc.
 http://www.montarasoftware.com/
 888-408-0900 x901
 
  -Original Message-
  From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:05 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
   There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one,
The
   Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which
was
   originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design
(has
 been
   updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of
compiler
   design.
   It's really boring, though.
 
  The red dragon book boring What! Great book.
 
  ... but only really for those that want to build hard core compliers
 (i.e.
  nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc
(Yet
  Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a compiler
is
  just
  1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
  Building an OS is nirvana.
 
  I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.
 
  WG
 
 
 
 
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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
I have no idea if it was ever called anything else.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:28 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
  There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a
CFML
 
 Cool, javaCC was that called Jack at some stage?
 
 WG
 
 
 
 
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RE: Missing CFMAGIC cookie??

2003-01-31 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Ah! Thanks! We don't set SetDomainCookie to true on our dev server because
the cookies don't work if the host name has only one . in it.

With SetDomainCookie = true...
1. host = staging, cookie domain is not set; this works.
2. host = test.staging.com, cookie domain = .staging.com; this works.
3. host = test.staging, cookie domain = .staging, but the cookie domains
are supposed to have two dots in them to be valid; NS and IE won't pass
these cookies back to the server.

(This is for CF5 and earlier; don't know about MX.)

In our application.cfm we test for at least three dots in a host name before
setting SetDomainCookie to true.

Thanks again...
Mark


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Missing CFMAGIC cookie??


CFMAGIC is only set if you have setDomainCookies set to true in your
CFAPPLICATION tag.  It's there to allow you to have multiple domains read
the same cookies to tie together a session across them.  I'd imagine that
you (or someone) accidentally removed that line from the CFAPPLICATION tag
on the dev server, but didn't publish to the production server.

HTH,
barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Missing CFMAGIC cookie??


 Hi Folks
 You know the three cookies that CFAPPLICATION sets when you use session
 management... CFID, CFTOKEN, and CFMAGIC? (CFMAGIC is just
 CFID:CFTOKEN).
 Well we just noticed that one of our development servers is not setting
 CFMAGIC. I don't know when this happened, but it is weird.

 Anybody have an idea as to why this might be happening?

 My test is to clear cookies, then turn on cookie prompting (using NS4 at
 this point), then hit a page. I see CFID and CFTOKEN coming, but
 no CFMAGIC.
 Do the same test on a production server and you get all three.

 Development machine is running CF5 sp 2
 Production machine is running CF5 sp 3

 Thanks!

   Mark
 

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Yes, this is why I asked about the SDK. Thanks for your previous reply, I'll
check it out.

Thanks


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.


There is no SDK available and you can't rely on the docs because
sometimes they are either incomplete or just wrong.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.

 Makes perfect since. Thanks for your reply.

 I think I have seen on Macromedia where you can download something
like an
 SDK for the SWF format, is there an equivalent to that for CF. Like a
SDK,
 rather than relying on the Docs and experience only.

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:03 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.


 If you want to use Java (which I'd recommend), baseically all you need
to
 do
 is come up with a language specification (or use CFML's), and then
create
 a
 system that will convert that language into Java source code, which
can
 then
 be compiled as you would any other Java class.  Along with that comes
the
 need to be able to do some reflection so that you can translate errors
in
 the Java back to the appropriate CFML (or whatever), as well as keep
track
 of when you need to update your Java files, based on the modification
 dates
 of the templates.

 In addition to the basic compilation, you'll also probably want to
provide
 functionality that Java doesn't provide, or at least encapsulate it
into
 more easily usable pieces, like CF does with CFQUERY and datasources.
 Keep
 in mind that you can also perform encapsulation with internal CFML (or
 wahtever) templates, like CF does (for instance, CFDUMP and
 CFSAVECONTENT).
 You'll definitely want to decide which pieces to encapulate first, or
 you'll
 be throwing away alot of compilation work, because it'll become
unneeded.

 Apache Tomcat is a free Java Servlet container which would serve as a
good
 base, assuming you follow the CFML compiles to Java Servlets pattern,
 which
 makes the most sense to me of the other options that come readily to
mind.
 I wouldn't worry about making deployment easy until you have a working
 system, so I'd see the system initially working like this:

 1) write the template in CFML or whatever
 2) run a command line compiler to make the Java source
 3) copy the Java source to the Tomcat application directory
 4) load the pages and let Tomcat automatically compile the .java files
 into
 .class files for you, as well as take care of putting them in the
right
 place in the filesystem.

 Then once you have a langauge that you can use, you can start worrying
 about
 rolling step 2-4 together.  You'll want a Tomcat app that encapsulates
 your
 CFML-Java compiler, and then your CFML applications would be housed
within
 that application.  You'd want to set up an alternative mapping to your
 compiler app so that it runs based on .cfm, rather like Struts' setup
with
 the .do extension.

 Hopefully that all makes sense.

 Footnote: I'm relying on logic here, not any actual experience working
 with
 such a system, so don't flame me.  However, while I have no intention
of
 writing such a system, I'd be interested to hear feedback and
suggestions.

 barneyb

  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 
  Does anyone know where or how I can learn about writing my own
 application
  server such as Blue Dragon has. This really interests me. Not that I
 could
  compete I would just like to know how it is done.
 
  
  Bryan F. Hogan
  Director of Internet Development
  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
  1-877-72DIGITAL
  
 
 



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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
 Dave said:
 I might prefer the syntax of CFSCRIPT too, but that's easily outweighed by
 the ability in CFFUNCTION to validate argument datatypes and requirements
 with the TYPE and REQUIRED attributes of CFARGUMENT, and specify
 the return
 datatype of the function using the RETURNTYPE attribute of CFFUNCTION. To
 me, both of those things - and especially the first - make up for
 any syntax
 preferences I might have for C-style code.

True, pity you can't do

function myf (name string, o myobject)

You would think it would very easy since cffunction has it .

WG

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Small
How does it compare (features) to CF5.0?  CFMX? What is the price? Has
there ever been any testing done against CFMX?  

Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
Showstopper National Dance Competitions
3660 Old Kings Hwy 
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-357-1847
http://www.showstopperonline.com

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.

I do, what do you want to know?

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 You have an existing CFML parser for .NET?  Explain more, I am very
 interested.
 
 Matthew Small
 IT Supervisor
 Showstopper National Dance Competitions
 3660 Old Kings Hwy
 Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
 843-357-1847
 http://www.showstopperonline.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a CFML
 parser and basic interpreter. Further, I was able to port the code
 generated with JavaCC to .NET using J# without too much issue thus
 making a .NET CFML parser and interpreter. In fact, when I broke the
 story on J# I used my CFML parser code as an example. See
 http://archive.devx.com/dotnet/articles/lp100901/lp100901.asp if you
are
 interested.
 
 Matt Liotta
 President  CEO
 Montara Software, Inc.
 http://www.montarasoftware.com/
 888-408-0900 x901
 
  -Original Message-
  From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:05 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
   There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one,
The
   Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which
was
   originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design
(has
 been
   updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of
compiler
   design.
   It's really boring, though.
 
  The red dragon book boring What! Great book.
 
  ... but only really for those that want to build hard core compliers
 (i.e.
  nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc
(Yet
  Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a compiler
is
  just
  1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
  Building an OS is nirvana.
 
  I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.
 
  WG
 
 
 
 

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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 True, pity you can't do
 
 function myf (name string, o myobject)
 
 You would think it would very easy since cffunction has it .

Sounds like a wishform request to me!

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: SOT: Serv-U?

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 I've done no FTP serving up to this point.
 I had a client yesterday who asked about being able to
 have a way to access documents on her PC at work
 and at home, and I thought of an FTP site on my server.
 (She's almost completely computer illiterate and doesn't
 want to spend much money.)
 
 That would mean she'd have to upload and download
 documents...not the best solution...I thought about VPN
 or something like that (that I've never dealt with either),
 but that seemed more complicated and probably more costly...

There are any number of other options you might look at - you could even
just build a CF application that handles her uploads and downloads! (Not
that that would be the best solution in most cases, just thought I'd throw
it out there.) But you could look at WebDAV (when properly configured, you
can easily access and change MS Office documents through it, for example).

You might even consider the idea of portable storage - for example, those
USB drives you can get now. That would certainly be an easy solution to
implement, and you wouldn't have to deal with any software at all, in most
cases.

 I tried to setup an FTP on Win2K, but even with 
 creating a User, assigning permissions, and 
 passwords, etc., I couldn't get in with that User's 
 password...seems like, based other comments in this
 thread that each user has to have their own port...
 rather than the default port of 21...didn't know 
 that. Maybe that's the problem.
 
 Does IIS FTP not have the capability of allowing 
 many users on one port? There's only so many ports 
 available to use! Right?

I'm not sure what the original poster meant by that, exactly. No, IIS's FTP
server supports multiple users on the same port. I don't know how well it
scales, but it can support more than one user at least!

There could, of course, be any number of other problems you might have run
into.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
  You ... haven't ... read ... the ... documentation? 
  It's in there.
 
 Nope - I'm not primarily a CF developer - my knowledge 
 is mainly CF4 - but I never knew about cflib.org.. 
 opens up a whole new world.
 
 I should start reading messages more - I just get so 
 damn many..

While this list is great and all, may I suggest that you spend more time
reading the documentation instead? I'm being completely serious. I wouldn't
want to learn a new programming language by reading a mailing list - you'll
learn bits and pieces, but not the core concepts.

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RE: CF Capability but not CF.

2003-01-31 Thread Matt Liotta
It doesn't compare at all. I wrote it as a proof of concept and nothing
more. It is not a complete implementation of CFML or even a useable
implementation of CFML.

If you are looking for a full implementation of CFML I would check our
BlueDragon, which is a very nice product indeed. In addition, it would
appear that BlueDragon will soon support .NET in some way based Vince's
talk found at http://www.cfconf.org/cfun-03/speakers.cfm.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 How does it compare (features) to CF5.0?  CFMX? What is the price? Has
 there ever been any testing done against CFMX?
 
 Matthew Small
 IT Supervisor
 Showstopper National Dance Competitions
 3660 Old Kings Hwy
 Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
 843-357-1847
 http://www.showstopperonline.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:39 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
 I do, what do you want to know?
 
 Matt Liotta
 President  CEO
 Montara Software, Inc.
 http://www.montarasoftware.com/
 888-408-0900 x901
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
  You have an existing CFML parser for .NET?  Explain more, I am very
  interested.
 
  Matthew Small
  IT Supervisor
  Showstopper National Dance Competitions
  3660 Old Kings Hwy
  Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
  843-357-1847
  http://www.showstopperonline.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:18 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
 
  There is also JavaCC, which I have used successfully to create a
CFML
  parser and basic interpreter. Further, I was able to port the code
  generated with JavaCC to .NET using J# without too much issue thus
  making a .NET CFML parser and interpreter. In fact, when I broke the
  story on J# I used my CFML parser code as an example. See
  http://archive.devx.com/dotnet/articles/lp100901/lp100901.asp if you
 are
  interested.
 
  Matt Liotta
  President  CEO
  Montara Software, Inc.
  http://www.montarasoftware.com/
  888-408-0900 x901
 
   -Original Message-
   From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:05 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: CF Capability but not CF.
  
There are a few books to read as well - there is a classic one,
 The
Dragon Book (Compilers: Principals, Techniques and Tools), which
 was
originally written in the 70s as Principles of Compiler Design
 (has
  been
updated since, mine was an '86 version) is by the gurus of
 compiler
design.
It's really boring, though.
  
   The red dragon book boring What! Great book.
  
   ... but only really for those that want to build hard core
compliers
  (i.e.
   nerds like J.J.  Sean C. ), you can use things like lex and Yacc
 (Yet
   Another Compiler Compiler) to build a compiler. Building a
compiler
 is
   just
   1 step away from being a computer programmer nirvana.
   Building an OS is nirvana.
  
   I _am_ a nerd.. Its a good thing.
  
   WG
  
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
  True, pity you can't do
  
  function myf (name string, o myobject)
  
  You would think it would very easy since cffunction has it .
 
 Sounds like a wishform request to me!
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Good idea, done. Stuck function overloading in there too :-) 

WG

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RE: OOP, Custom Tags..

2003-01-31 Thread webguy
 Dave W:
 While this list is great and all, may I suggest that you spend more time
 reading the documentation instead? I'm being completely serious. 
 I wouldn't want to learn a new programming language by reading a mailing 
 list - you'll learn bits and pieces, but not the core concepts.

Jezz and that comes from the top poster :-) 

WG

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does CFPARAM have to be used at the beginning of a template?

2003-01-31 Thread ttran_18
Hi, 

I'm new to this mail list.  Anyways, I was wondering if the CFPARAM tag has to go at 
the beginning of a template.  I see most codes where CFPARAM is set at the top.  Is 
this required?  Can it be set at the middle or end of a template or does that cause 
problems or performance issues.  Thanks



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RE: does CFPARAM have to be used at the beginning of a template?

2003-01-31 Thread Tony Weeg
it doesn't HAVE TO BE anywhere.

it just has to be right above where you would want
to use it.

its not something that has to be declared before any processing.

...tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
Information System Design
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Hi, 

I'm new to this mail list.  Anyways, I was wondering if the CFPARAM tag
has to go at the beginning of a template.  I see most codes where
CFPARAM is set at the top.  Is this required?  Can it be set at the
middle or end of a template or does that cause problems or performance
issues.  Thanks




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Re: does CFPARAM have to be used at the beginning of a template?

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Dinowitz
CFPARAM can be used anywhere in a ColdFusion template but should be used before
the variable that your checking.


 Hi,

 I'm new to this mail list.  Anyways, I was wondering if the CFPARAM tag has to
go at the beginning of a template.  I see most codes where CFPARAM is set at the
top.  Is this required?  Can it be set at the middle or end of a template or
does that cause problems or performance issues.  Thanks



 
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