Re: Hiding Javascript codes

[Justin Scott]

In a nutshell, no.  There are programs out there that can "encode" your
JavaScript and HTML into individual ASCII codes for each character, but it
is easily worked around.  This is along the same lines as "I want to put an
image online, but I want to make it so that nobody else can
take/use/steal/copy etc."  There is no such thing as "secure client-side
JavaScript" as far as I know.  If you do happen to find something, please,
by all means let me know.

-Justin Scott


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From: "DESIGN SHOP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: Hiding Javascript codes


> Hi all!,
> This may be a very dumb question.
> Is there any way at all to hide/encrypt Client side Javascript codes.
> We have a situation where we have to use certain client  side Javascript
> codes which we wish to hide in the source code for security reasons.
> Any ideas??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Ben Thomas
> Uncertified & Dangerous
> Digital Internet Ltd.
>
> 
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RE: Any wanna help? Trying to order output by the number that's part of a varchar field...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Many of them are on the same street.  And if you want to
> group the addresses by StreetName and order the addresses
> within that street name grouping, well, then there's
> relevance, and it has to be done like that.

 Well... okay... guess I was wrong. :)

> Your solution follows what I thought might be needed, but
> fills in gaps in logic for me...

> - Run Initial Query
> - Create Array containing only numbers from StreetNumber
> field using Regular
> Expression
> - Add colum to query with array data (this I wasn't
> familiar with)
> - Run second query ordering by added column (and by
> StreetName)
> - Reassign intial query values to "temp" query values

> I'm running CF 4.5.2, so I don't have Query of Query
> capability.
> Is that what's happening when this code is run?:

> >  
> > SELECT * FROM myq ORDER BY streetno2
> >  

That's what it was supposed to be but I left out dbtype="query" from the
cfquery attributes.

> When you write:

> >  Probably have to actually insert the rereplace
> >  value into a
> >  db column tho actually...

> Why would that be necessary?  Would I have to rerun the
> regex "ordering code" to resort the properties in an
> "OrderNumber" column everytime a property was added,
> updated, or deleted from the database?


No, because you don't actually want an "ordernumber" column -- what you want
is a numeric streetnumber column, so rather than getting the values and
storing them in the db like this:

streetno  order
101
502
5380  3
16673 4

You would scrap the order column and just insert the streetno value as an
integer value -- this allows you to only need to run the regex once before
inserting the value into the db and then use the value returned from regex
as the sort order for your query. Updates and deletes don't bother you
because nothing (asside from the individual unit being added or updated) has
to be recalculated. and the Val() ensures that any street address string not
containing a number is given the value 0.

> Could I somehow use one query that contains a regex to
> parse the
> StreetNumber data?
> Something like:

>Select *
>  from properties
> order by val(rereplace(StreetNumber,
> "[^0-9]","",All")))

> 

> Doesn't seem like that would work, because the "order by"
> would be looking for a colum name...right?  That would be
> the reason for the insertion of the data into an array
> first, right?  Anyway to make that "One
> Query" solution work?

I know there's at least one 3rd party engine that supposedly allows regular
expressions to be used in SQL Server, but by and large you can't use regex
in sql queries. If regex were commonly allowed in sql it's conceivable that
you could order by a regex value (I think you can order by other calculated
values), however, you wouldn't want to do it that way anyhow because it's a
lot of extra overhead (regex can be expensive, especially when you're
talking about using it several hundred or thousand times consecutively). So
you'd really want to perform the regex at time of insert/update anyway.

> Thanks for the help and insights...

Glad I can help. :)

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Hiding Javascript codes

[DESIGN SHOP]

Hi all!,
This may be a very dumb question.
Is there any way at all to hide/encrypt Client side Javascript codes.
We have a situation where we have to use certain client  side Javascript
codes which we wish to hide in the source code for security reasons.
Any ideas??

Thanks in advance


Ben Thomas
Uncertified & Dangerous
Digital Internet Ltd.

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RE: Any wanna help? Trying to order output by the number that's part of a varchar field...

[Rick Faircloth]

Many of them are on the same street.  And if you want to
group the addresses by StreetName and order the addresses within that
street name grouping, well, then there's relevance, and it has to be done
like that.

These are lists of rental properties and many
are identified only as "No. 1 Magnolia Apartments", "No. 2 Magnolia
Apartments",
or something similar.

The "No. 1" and "No. 2" parts of the above examples are the StreetNumber
field data
and because of the "No." part, they have to be varchar fields.

Your solution follows what I thought might be needed, but fills in gaps in
logic for me...

- Run Initial Query
- Create Array containing only numbers from StreetNumber field using Regular
Expression
- Add colum to query with array data (this I wasn't familiar with)
- Run second query ordering by added column (and by StreetName)
- Reassign intial query values to "temp" query values

I'm running CF 4.5.2, so I don't have Query of Query capability.
Is that what's happening when this code is run?:

>  
>   SELECT * FROM myq ORDER BY streetno2
>  

When you write:

>  Probably have to actually insert the rereplace value into a
>  db column tho actually...

Why would that be necessary?  Would I have to rerun the regex "ordering
code"
to resort the properties in an "OrderNumber" column everytime a property was
added,
updated, or deleted from the database?

Could I somehow use one query that contains a regex to parse the
StreetNumber data?
Something like:



Doesn't seem like that would work, because the "order by" would be looking
for a colum name...right?  That would be the reason for the insertion of the
data
into an array first, right?  Anyway to make that "One Query" solution work?

Thanks for the help and insights...

Rick






>  -Original Message-
>  From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:20 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: Re: Any wanna help? Trying to order output by the
>  number that's
>  part of a varchar field...
>
>
>  I dunno why on earth you would want to order addresses by
>  street number --
>  unless they're _all_ on the same street, there's no relevance...
>
>  However...
>
>  
>
>  
> arrayappend(temp,val(rereplace(myq.streetno,"[^0-9]","","ALL")))>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>   SELECT * FROM myq ORDER BY streetno2
>  
>
>  
>
>  try that...
>
>  Probably have to actually insert the rereplace value into a
>  db column tho
>  actually...
>
>  > Hi, all...
>
>  > I'm trying to order street addresses.
>
>  > I originally setup the the first field in the address to
>  > hold the steet
>  > number and made it numeric so it could be ordered.
>
>  > Unfortunately, I found out that some of the addresses had
>  > no street number,
>  > but were addresses like "No. 10 Magnolia Park", "No. 12
>  > Pecan Park", etc.
>
>  > "No. 10" is what's now going in the street number field,
>  > and, of course,
>  > that field
>  > cannot be numeric, but a character field. However, that's
>  > throwing off the
>  > ordering
>  > of the properties...
>
>  > How would I select out the number, if present, in the
>  > street number field
>  > and have Cold Fusion order the query output by the number?
>
>  > Thanks for any help!
>
>  > Rick
>
>
>  > Rick Faircloth
>  > WhiteStoneMedia.com
>
>
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RE: cfhttp -- truncate result page

[S . Isaac Dealey]

yea, I considered that but for this particular application a 15min wait
between updates wouldn't be reasonable... Thanks for the sug. tho.

> Sounds like you need an asynchronous messaging system...

> I don't think there is a way using just CF and CFHTTP.
> Creating a
> simple queue wouldn't be that hard (assuming you have some
> control over
> server2...) Server1 would do a CFHTTP to server2 which
> sets a record in
> a DB (in the queue) with an immediate response back to
> server1.  Then
> you have a scheduled task on server2 that fires every so
> often and
> completes the work based on what is pending in the DB.

> HTH,

> Jeff Garza

> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: cfhttp -- truncate result page


> the answer to this question is probably no, but I'm gonna
> ask anyway...

> Does anybody know if there's a way to send a response back
> to a cfhttp
> request to tell it "okay, this is all the content you're
> going to get"
> and
> then continue processing the page without tying up the
> other cf server?
> ...

> to give an illustration, a situation where there are 2 cf
> servers
> involved:

> server1 --cfhttp--> server2 -
>^  |
>|--

> Now ... normally what happens is server 1 doesn't receive
> _anything_ and
> won't continue processing the page until server2 is
> _completely_
> finished
> sending the response (so just using  on the
> server2 page
> doesn't
> work, I already know that). So as long ast server2 is
> running its page,
> the
> request on server1 is tied up and won't continue or finish
> processing.
> If
> server2 also performs a cfhttp request this could get ugly
> fast. What
> I'd
> like to do is have server1 send a request, send a response
> page back
> from
> server2 that lets server1 finish its request while server2
> goes on to do
> other heavy lifting stuff like other cfhttp requests...

> Any thoughts greatly appreciated. :)

> s. isaac dealey954-776-0046

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RE: cfhttp -- truncate result page

[Jeff Garza]

Sounds like you need an asynchronous messaging system... 

I don't think there is a way using just CF and CFHTTP.  Creating a
simple queue wouldn't be that hard (assuming you have some control over
server2...) Server1 would do a CFHTTP to server2 which sets a record in
a DB (in the queue) with an immediate response back to server1.  Then
you have a scheduled task on server2 that fires every so often and
completes the work based on what is pending in the DB.  

HTH,

Jeff Garza

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfhttp -- truncate result page 


the answer to this question is probably no, but I'm gonna ask anyway...

Does anybody know if there's a way to send a response back to a cfhttp
request to tell it "okay, this is all the content you're going to get"
and
then continue processing the page without tying up the other cf server?
...

to give an illustration, a situation where there are 2 cf servers
involved:

server1 --cfhttp--> server2 -
   ^  |
   |--

Now ... normally what happens is server 1 doesn't receive _anything_ and
won't continue processing the page until server2 is _completely_
finished
sending the response (so just using  on the server2 page
doesn't
work, I already know that). So as long ast server2 is running its page,
the
request on server1 is tied up and won't continue or finish processing.
If
server2 also performs a cfhttp request this could get ugly fast. What
I'd
like to do is have server1 send a request, send a response page back
from
server2 that lets server1 finish its request while server2 goes on to do
other heavy lifting stuff like other cfhttp requests...

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. :)

s. isaac dealey954-776-0046

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cfhttp -- truncate result page

[S . Isaac Dealey]

the answer to this question is probably no, but I'm gonna ask anyway...

Does anybody know if there's a way to send a response back to a cfhttp
request to tell it "okay, this is all the content you're going to get" and
then continue processing the page without tying up the other cf server? ...

to give an illustration, a situation where there are 2 cf servers involved:

server1 --cfhttp--> server2 -
   ^  |
   |--

Now ... normally what happens is server 1 doesn't receive _anything_ and
won't continue processing the page until server2 is _completely_ finished
sending the response (so just using  on the server2 page doesn't
work, I already know that). So as long ast server2 is running its page, the
request on server1 is tied up and won't continue or finish processing. If
server2 also performs a cfhttp request this could get ugly fast. What I'd
like to do is have server1 send a request, send a response page back from
server2 that lets server1 finish its request while server2 goes on to do
other heavy lifting stuff like other cfhttp requests...

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. :)

s. isaac dealey954-776-0046

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Re: Any wanna help? Trying to order output by the number that's part of a varchar field...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

I dunno why on earth you would want to order addresses by street number --
unless they're _all_ on the same street, there's no relevance...

However...










SELECT * FROM myq ORDER BY streetno2




try that...

Probably have to actually insert the rereplace value into a db column tho
actually...

> Hi, all...

> I'm trying to order street addresses.

> I originally setup the the first field in the address to
> hold the steet
> number and made it numeric so it could be ordered.

> Unfortunately, I found out that some of the addresses had
> no street number,
> but were addresses like "No. 10 Magnolia Park", "No. 12
> Pecan Park", etc.

> "No. 10" is what's now going in the street number field,
> and, of course,
> that field
> cannot be numeric, but a character field. However, that's
> throwing off the
> ordering
> of the properties...

> How would I select out the number, if present, in the
> street number field
> and have Cold Fusion order the query output by the number?

> Thanks for any help!

> Rick


> Rick Faircloth
> WhiteStoneMedia.com


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Re: Current JS & CSS help files for CF Studio 5?

[Gary Groomer]

Pete,

Try the JavaScript reference at this link
http://devedge.netscape.com/central/javascript/.  I downloaded both the
guide and the reference and placed the folders within Studio's help folder.
I chose to use v1.3, but you can pick a later version if you want.  This way
I can search and get to the files just like any other help file within
Studio.

Gary Groomer

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:39 AM
Subject: OT: Current JS & CSS help files for CF Studio 5?


> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if there were any current JavaScript (to 1.3 at least) and
Cascading Style Sheet (to 1.0/XHTML at least, 2.0 would be even better) help
files that will work with Cold Fusion Studio 5?  I found some online but
they were dated 1998 and I think by now I have most of that stuff committed
to memory :G:
>
> Thanks,
>
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Any wanna help? Trying to order output by the number that's part of a varchar field...

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, all...

I'm trying to order street addresses.

I originally setup the the first field in the address to hold the steet
number and made it numeric so it could be ordered.

Unfortunately, I found out that some of the addresses had no street number,
but were addresses like "No. 10 Magnolia Park", "No. 12 Pecan Park", etc.

"No. 10" is what's now going in the street number field, and, of course,
that field
cannot be numeric, but a character field. However, that's throwing off the
ordering
of the properties...

How would I select out the number, if present, in the street number field
and have Cold Fusion order the query output by the number?

Thanks for any help!

Rick


Rick Faircloth
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> 
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> 
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>Understanding them, leveraging them
>   Understanding the J2EE integration
>Leveraging it in your CF code
>Leveraging integration with JSP and servlets
> 
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>   New debugging capabilities
>   Leveraging JSP custom tags, supporting internationalization
>   New login security and developer sandbox security capabilities
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well as the new graphing capabilities, etc. But did you know that
there's really quite a bit more to CFMX than those top features that
are marketed so heavily?

If you attended my seminar of a similar name and focus about CF 5, you
know that we identified lots of things that you didn't hear as much
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[Don]

Steven,

Thanks for the update.  Glad to know MM is working on the problem.  

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RE: CFMX: Intermittent Hanging with Updater 3

[Barney Boisvert]

I haven't had any problems, however I'm running on apache/linux though, so
that's probably not of much use.  I've been running my two servers (a dev
box and a production box, quite similar to your hardware) literally balls
out for up hours at a time over the past week or so doing database
migrations and conversions.  Time is divided between CF and the db, but the
procs are maxed the whole time.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX: Intermittent Hanging with Updater 3
>
>
> Has anyone else had problems with the CFMX service hanging periodically
> under Updater 3 ? I hadn't seen any instance of this before, but after
> installing Updater 3 on 2 different machines I'm seeing occasional hangs
> where I have to manually restart the CFMX service.
>
> Server 1 (Development Server)
> Windows 2000 Server
> PIII 600
> 512 MB Ram
> Single 60gb IDE HDD
> CFMX Updater 3
> MS SQL Server 2000
>
> Server 2 (Production Server)
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> Dual P4 1.8 GHZ
> 1.5 GB Ram
> Dual 40gb IDE HDD w/ mirroring
> CFMX Updater 3
>
>
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CFMX: Intermittent Hanging with Updater 3

[Joshua Miller]

Has anyone else had problems with the CFMX service hanging periodically
under Updater 3 ? I hadn't seen any instance of this before, but after
installing Updater 3 on 2 different machines I'm seeing occasional hangs
where I have to manually restart the CFMX service.
 
Server 1 (Development Server)
Windows 2000 Server 
PIII 600
512 MB Ram
Single 60gb IDE HDD
CFMX Updater 3
MS SQL Server 2000
 
Server 2 (Production Server)
Windows 2000 Advanced Server 
Dual P4 1.8 GHZ
1.5 GB Ram
Dual 40gb IDE HDD w/ mirroring
CFMX Updater 3
 
 
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Simon Horwith]

thanks, Charlie.

~Simon

Simon Horwith 
Macromedia Certified Instructor 
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Certified Flash MX Developer
CFDJList - List Administrator
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Washington DC 20036 
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-Original Message-
From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted


Simon Horwith writes: 

> quite possibly the first of more to come.  Hope you do enjoy them. 
> 
> ~Simon

If the possibility of more is based on feedback, let me add to the 
(ever-growing) list of people who think both of those papers are fantastic. 

Great job! 

charlie 


> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
> 
> 
> I've already downloaded it (and just added your site my short list of CF
> resources).  Really great work on both documents, by the way - I hope
> they're the first of many. 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:29 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
>> (http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you 
>> everything you need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in 
>> case you haven't worked with it yet. 
>> 
>> ~Simon 
>> 
>> Simon Horwith 
>> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> Certified Flash MX Developer
>> CFDJList - List Administrator
>> Fig Leaf Software 
>> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> Washington DC 20036 
>> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> http://www.figleaf.com  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> Good point... I'll add it soon. 
>> 
>> That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5... 
>> 
>> Jim Davis 
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Jim,
>> >   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a
>> > complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
>> > as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
>> > structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
>> > properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
>> > 
>> > ~Simon
>> > 
>> > Simon Horwith
>> > Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> > Certified Flash MX Developer
>> > CFDJList - List Administrator
>> > Fig Leaf Software 
>> > 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> > Washington DC 20036 
>> > 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> > http://www.figleaf.com 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
>> > > To: CF-Talk
>> > > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>> > >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>> > >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>> > >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
>> > > 
>> > >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>> > >   where the heck WAS that original message"
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this
>> > here's the link again:
>> > 
>> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusio
> n/Guides/V
> ariables/Index.cfm 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 

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Re: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[charlie griefer]

dang it... 

also should say to Jim that your article is incredible too.  I've already 
sent the link to my co-workers, as well as mentioning it in our #coldfusion 
channel on IRC. 

charlie 


Simon Horwith writes: 

> quite possibly the first of more to come.  Hope you do enjoy them. 
> 
> ~Simon 
> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
> 
> 
> I've already downloaded it (and just added your site my short list of CF
> resources).  Really great work on both documents, by the way - I hope
> they're the first of many. 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:29 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
>> (http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you 
>> everything you need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in 
>> case you haven't worked with it yet. 
>> 
>> ~Simon 
>> 
>> Simon Horwith 
>> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> Certified Flash MX Developer
>> CFDJList - List Administrator
>> Fig Leaf Software 
>> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> Washington DC 20036 
>> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> http://www.figleaf.com  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> Good point... I'll add it soon. 
>> 
>> That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5... 
>> 
>> Jim Davis 
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Jim,
>> >   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a
>> > complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
>> > as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
>> > structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
>> > properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
>> > 
>> > ~Simon
>> > 
>> > Simon Horwith
>> > Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> > Certified Flash MX Developer
>> > CFDJList - List Administrator
>> > Fig Leaf Software 
>> > 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> > Washington DC 20036 
>> > 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> > http://www.figleaf.com 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
>> > > To: CF-Talk
>> > > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>> > >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>> > >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>> > >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
>> > > 
>> > >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>> > >   where the heck WAS that original message"
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this
>> > here's the link again:
>> > 
>> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusio
> n/Guides/V
> ariables/Index.cfm 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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CFMX Updater 3 Available

[ctobin]

Bug 49064 was fixed, in that you will no longer receive an "Invalid cast exception". 
By extension of the same test case, we discovered that if a user receives a WDDX 
packet with a reference to a relative DTD not on the user's server, a SAX Parser 
exception is thrown. Bug 50535 has been entered so that CFWDDX will provide something 
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Thanks.

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Re: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[charlie griefer]

Simon Horwith writes: 

> quite possibly the first of more to come.  Hope you do enjoy them. 
> 
> ~Simon

If the possibility of more is based on feedback, let me add to the 
(ever-growing) list of people who think both of those papers are fantastic. 

Great job! 

charlie 


> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
> 
> 
> I've already downloaded it (and just added your site my short list of CF
> resources).  Really great work on both documents, by the way - I hope
> they're the first of many. 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:29 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
>> (http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you 
>> everything you need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in 
>> case you haven't worked with it yet. 
>> 
>> ~Simon 
>> 
>> Simon Horwith 
>> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> Certified Flash MX Developer
>> CFDJList - List Administrator
>> Fig Leaf Software 
>> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> Washington DC 20036 
>> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> http://www.figleaf.com  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted 
>> 
>> 
>> Good point... I'll add it soon. 
>> 
>> That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5... 
>> 
>> Jim Davis 
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Jim,
>> >   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a
>> > complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
>> > as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
>> > structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
>> > properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
>> > 
>> > ~Simon
>> > 
>> > Simon Horwith
>> > Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> > Certified Flash MX Developer
>> > CFDJList - List Administrator
>> > Fig Leaf Software 
>> > 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> > Washington DC 20036 
>> > 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> > http://www.figleaf.com 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
>> > > To: CF-Talk
>> > > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>> > >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>> > >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>> > >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
>> > > 
>> > >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>> > >   where the heck WAS that original message"
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this
>> > here's the link again:
>> > 
>> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusio
> n/Guides/V
> ariables/Index.cfm 
> 
> Jim Davis 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Ryan Kime]

>>Since I don't know who Karl Malone is, I guess that list...

*chuckle*

Wouldn't expect anything less from someone living in Wisconsin - home of
football, brats, and cheese.

Think bas-ket-ball my friend...


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


Since I don't know who Karl Malone is, I guess that list of things to do
just got a lot shorter.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> I hear one of the major 'things to do' in SLC is Karl Malone watching. 
> He supposedly frequents a number of shopping venues and can often be 
> spotted riding a motorcycle.
>
> Also, the city is not very... uhh.. ethnically diverse. He supposedly 
> stands out.
>
> M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> Looking at these sites:
>
> http://www.slctravel.com/
> http://www.utah.com/cities/slc.htm
>
> Not much.
>
> -Kevin
>
> > Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> 

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RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can

[Ian Skinner]

I just read about what you can try to fix a problem like this in this
month's Cold Fusion Developer's Journal.

---Quote---
Problem 3:
ODBC Errors
Background: There are several bugs in ODBC that can cause ColdFusion to stop
processing one or all MS Access databases on your server. You may receive
errors such as: 

* The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file "(unknown)". It is
already opened exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view
its data. 
* Not enough space on temp drive 
* Memory allocation error 

Several other errors may occur while accessing your MDB file. 

Solution: Although this can be caused by several different conditions, most
often all that is required is a restart of your ColdFusion Application
Server service. 
If that does not alleviate the problem, most likely your MDB file is
corrupt, the database requires a password, or the ColdFusion Server does not
have the correct NTFS permissions to access the MDB file. If restarting the
service does not resolve your issue, see
http://edgewebhosting.net/quickfix/mdb for a set of utilities to repair MDB
files or identify the presence of an MDB password. 

Please be aware that Macromedia and Microsoft do not recommend using
Microsoft Access databases for production environments. We've found that
once you start receiving more than 25 concurrent users to your Web
application, this problem will reappear much more frequently. 

For more information, see Macromedia's notes on the subject:
www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=1540. 

---end quote ---
ColdFusion Developer's Journal, ColdFusion Server Recovery by Vlad A.
Friedman, Volume 5, Issue 3, March 2003, Pg. 27.

(My formatting is horrible, but that should contain all the proper data for
crediting a published work that you quote.)

Hope that helps.

--
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


This message usually occurs when someone is accessing the physical file
using the access client (i.e. opening from a desktop).

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


I continue to get this error message when conneting to an Access database:
[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file
'\\Denya2619\C-Drive\AccessTest\stdparts.mdb'. It is already opened
exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data.

I have the coldfusion server running as my own account, which has full
control access to the share (C-Drive) and the NTFS permissions.  There
should be no problems opening the MDB.  Also, nobody else is in that
database.  I have now tried creating a local access database and linking to
the remote one, and connecting coldfusion to the local one.  This makes the
datasource create properly, but I get the error above when trying to
actually connect to the database.  I have also tried creating an ODBC data
source to the database, and connecting through that, but that is not working
either (exact same error).  If I connect directly to the database with the
Access driver, I get an error right when I try to add the datasource in CF
MX Administrator.

Can anyone help me out here?  I have no idea what the problem could be at
this point.  I feel like I've exhausted every possible round-about way to
connect to this network database.  I've tried it with the database as Access
97 and Access 2000, with compacting/repairing, etc.  Are there other JDBC
Access drivers that might work instead?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


This is the route I am now exploring- setting these up as ODBC Socket
connections in ColdFusion Administrator, and creating ODBC Data sources to
the databases.

This is my problem though: Can I setup an ODBC data source in Win2k without
mapping a drive?  When I try to do this through the ODBC Administrator, it
is forcing me to map a drive.  If I do have to map a drive, it will have to
be a client-side Windows mapping, and the server is generally NOT logged in.
So, I'm thinking that mapping generally won't even be available.  Am I
correct in this thinking?

Thanks for the help!
Kevin


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


You can go to the Datasources (ODBC) section of the administrative tools in
the control panel (assuming 

Re: DevCon 2003

[Kevin Pompei]

Actually, Salt Lake City is not that much like the rest of Utah.  It's much
more diverse than people often think. Not just ethnically but also
politically and religously.  I've lived here for almost 9 years and I can
tell you that the skiing is fantastic.  Uncrowded runs are less than 30
minutes from Downtown.  Since the 2002 Winter Olympics the restaurant scene
has also improved dramatically.  Hotel rates are generally not very
expensive.

Kevin Pompei
Salt Lake City, UT

- Original Message -
From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> I hear one of the major 'things to do' in SLC is Karl Malone watching. He
> supposedly frequents a number of shopping venues and can often be spotted
> riding a motorcycle.
>
> Also, the city is not very... uhh.. ethnically diverse. He supposedly
stands
> out.
>
> M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> Looking at these sites:
>
> http://www.slctravel.com/
> http://www.utah.com/cities/slc.htm
>
> Not much.
>
> -Kevin
>
> > Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> 
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Simon Horwith]

quite possibly the first of more to come.  Hope you do enjoy them.

~Simon

Simon Horwith 
Macromedia Certified Instructor 
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Certified Flash MX Developer
CFDJList - List Administrator
Fig Leaf Software 
1400 16th St NW, # 220 
Washington DC 20036 
202.797.6570 (direct line) 
http://www.figleaf.com 


-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted


I've already downloaded it (and just added your site my short list of CF
resources).  Really great work on both documents, by the way - I hope
they're the first of many.

Jim Davis


> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
> (http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you 
> everything you need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in 
> case you haven't worked with it yet.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> Good point... I'll add it soon.
> 
> That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5...
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > Jim,
> >   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a
> > complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
> > as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
> > structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
> > properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
> > 
> > ~Simon
> > 
> > Simon Horwith
> > Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > Certified Flash MX Developer
> > CFDJList - List Administrator
> > Fig Leaf Software 
> > 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> > Washington DC 20036 
> > 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> > http://www.figleaf.com 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > > 
> > > 
> > > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
> > >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
> > >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
> > >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
> > > 
> > >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
> > >   where the heck WAS that original message"
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this
> > here's the link again:
> > 
> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusio
n/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis







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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Jim Davis]

I've already downloaded it (and just added your site my short list of CF
resources).  Really great work on both documents, by the way - I hope
they're the first of many.

Jim Davis


> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
> (http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you 
> everything you need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in 
> case you haven't worked with it yet.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> Good point... I'll add it soon.
> 
> That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5...
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > Jim,
> >   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a
> > complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
> > as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
> > structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
> > properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
> > 
> > ~Simon
> > 
> > Simon Horwith
> > Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > Certified Flash MX Developer
> > CFDJList - List Administrator
> > Fig Leaf Software 
> > 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> > Washington DC 20036 
> > 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> > http://www.figleaf.com 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > > 
> > > 
> > > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
> > >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
> > >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
> > >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
> > > 
> > >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
> > >   where the heck WAS that original message"
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this
> > here's the link again:
> > 
> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusio
n/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis






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RE: DevCon 2003

[Kevin Graeme]

Since I don't know who Karl Malone is, I guess that list of things to do
just got a lot shorter.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> I hear one of the major 'things to do' in SLC is Karl Malone watching. He
> supposedly frequents a number of shopping venues and can often be spotted
> riding a motorcycle.
>
> Also, the city is not very... uhh.. ethnically diverse. He
> supposedly stands
> out.
>
> M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> Looking at these sites:
>
> http://www.slctravel.com/
> http://www.utah.com/cities/slc.htm
>
> Not much.
>
> -Kevin
>
> > Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Dave Watts]

> Remember I did not start this just gave info about the 
> DevCon... somebody else decided to make it political

I think it would be almost impossible not to interpret your original
statement as a political one, and as others have already stated, this is an
inappropriate forum for political statements.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Matt Robertson]

This is a great resource.  Congrats on a job well done.  I can see a lot of help posts 
saying "go here and rtfm" :D

Happy Friday by the way,

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:15:55 -0500

>Good point... I'll add it soon.
>
>That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5...
>
>Jim Davis
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> 
>> 
>> Jim,
>>   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a 
>> complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
>> as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
>> structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
>> properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
>> 
>> ~Simon
>> 
>> Simon Horwith 
>> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> Certified Flash MX Developer
>> CFDJList - List Administrator
>> Fig Leaf Software 
>> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
>> Washington DC 20036 
>> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
>> http://www.figleaf.com 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> 
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>> > 
>> > 
>> > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
>> > 
>> > 
>> >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>> >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>> >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>> >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
>> > 
>> >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>> >   where the heck WAS that original message"
>> > 
>> 
>> Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this 
>> here's the link again:
>> 
>http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
>ariables/Index.cfm
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Simon Horwith]

no problem.  The document I refered to earlier
(http://www.how2cf.com/files/papers/cfxml.zip) will tell you everything you
need to know about how CFMX handles XML, in case you haven't worked with it
yet.

~Simon

Simon Horwith 
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Certified Flash MX Developer
CFDJList - List Administrator
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Washington DC 20036 
202.797.6570 (direct line) 
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted


Good point... I'll add it soon.

That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5...

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> Jim,
>   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a 
> complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
> as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
> structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
> properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
> > 
> > 
> >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
> >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
> >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
> >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
> > 
> >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
> >   where the heck WAS that original message"
> > 
> 
> Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this 
> here's the link again:
> 
http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis





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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Jim Davis]

Good point... I'll add it soon.

That's what I get for being stuck on CF 4.5...

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> Jim,
>   Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a 
> complex datatype. All of the CFMX documentation refers to it 
> as it's own datatype, and it does have a strictly defined 
> structure, datatype specific functions, and many of the other 
> properties of a "datatype" in CFML.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith 
> Macromedia Certified Instructor 
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> Fig Leaf Software 
> 1400 16th St NW, # 220 
> Washington DC 20036 
> 202.797.6570 (direct line) 
> http://www.figleaf.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> > 
> > 
> > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
> > 
> > 
> >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
> >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
> >   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
> >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
> > 
> >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
> >   where the heck WAS that original message"
> > 
> 
> Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this 
> here's the link again:
> 
http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis




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RE: DevCon 2003

[Haggerty, Mike]

I hear one of the major 'things to do' in SLC is Karl Malone watching. He
supposedly frequents a number of shopping venues and can often be spotted
riding a motorcycle.

Also, the city is not very... uhh.. ethnically diverse. He supposedly stands
out.

M

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


Looking at these sites:

http://www.slctravel.com/
http://www.utah.com/cities/slc.htm

Not much.

-Kevin

> Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: DevCon 2003

[Cantrell, Adam]

There's a war?


> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
> 
> 
> Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location 
> had been nailed
> down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new 
> event (due to the
> illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 
> weeksso who
> knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
> 
> 
> > Goodness, this may change a lot.
> > If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
> > one week to budget for it)
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a 
> central loaction
> > that
> > would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > 
> 
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Simon Horwith]

Jim,
  Nice work.  One critism, though.  You missed XML as a complex datatype.
All of the CFMX documentation refers to it as it's own datatype, and it does
have a strictly defined structure, datatype specific functions, and many of
the other properties of a "datatype" in CFML.

~Simon

Simon Horwith 
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Certified Flash MX Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 3:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted


> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> :: Wow, what a thorough document it is! 
> 
> 
>   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?  
> 
>   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>   where the heck WAS that original message"
> 

Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this here's the
link again:

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis



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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Kevin Graeme]

Jim,

Thanks for this guide. I was helping a coworker get up to speed with CF and
despite having a fair collection of CF books here I wasn't able to find a
good overview of the variables and scopes. He's got the link now!

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> >
> >
> > :: Wow, what a thorough document it is!
> >
> > 
> >   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference
> >   to an original that had an important URL in it, could
> >   we please reference the URL again just in case some
> >   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?
> >
> >   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now
> >   where the heck WAS that original message"
> > 
>
> Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this here's the
> link again:
>
> http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
> ariables/Index.cfm
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
> 
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FW: RE: RE: Fusebox MX

[Mike Brunt]

There is a move afoot to try and get a Hal Helms Atlanta CFUG (Fusebox MX)meeting out 
via a Flash Comm server.  I know Michael has done this several times in New York.  Can 
anyone give us insights on bandwidth.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt

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Re: DevCon 2003

[Bryan Stevenson]

No I'm not trying to pick a fight

Remember I did not start thisjust gave info about the DevCon...somebody
else decided to make it politicalI have nothing else to say hereif
someone would like to discuss it offlist I'd be more than happy to.

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
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Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: DevCon 2003


> Bryan wrote:
> >... and I only stated the FACTS
>
> Please don't pursue this.  You're trying to pick a fight and it doesn't
belong here.
>
> As for the conference, thats actually great news.  Salt Lake is a hub for
Delta, I think, and you can get dirt cheap flights there, although we
usually have to make that run on those puny little Canadair RJ's.
>
> I wonder where the closest Motel 6 is :D.
>
> ---
>  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
> ---
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:20:49 -0800
>
> >Boo Hoo...press delete it's a free world (for the moment)
> >
> >BTW I didn't mention the "P" word and I only stated the FACTS
> >
> >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> >t. 250.920.8830
> >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >-
> >Macromedia Associate Partner
> >www.macromedia.com
> >-
> >Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> >Founder & Director
> >www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Edwards Robert (air0rae)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
> >
> >
> >> Please try to keep personal political views out of the discussions on
this
> >> list.  I read the messages on here to keep informed of ColdFusion items
in
> >> the world, not hear disparaging remarks about the President, the War or
> >any
> >> other global issues.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:07 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been
> >nailed
> >> down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due to
> >the
> >> illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso
who
> >> knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|
> >>
> >> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> >> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> >> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> >> t. 250.920.8830
> >> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> -
> >> Macromedia Associate Partner
> >> www.macromedia.com
> >> -
> >> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> >> Founder & Director
> >> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> >> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
> >>
> >>
> >> > Goodness, this may change a lot.
> >> > If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
> >> > one week to budget for it)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> >> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central
loaction
> >> > that would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> >> > The Children's Medical Center
> >> > One Children's Plaza
> >> > Dayton, OH 45404
> >> > 937-641-4293
> >> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Adrocknaphobia Jones]

>Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...

Apparently Jeebus, and Macromedia.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: DevCon 2003

Got this from the CFDJ list:
 
 I just emailed MM the other day asking about DevCon and below is
their reply.
Hope this helps,
Steve

 
Although not officially announced yet, the Macromedia annual conference
will
be held November 18-21, 2003 in Salt Lake City, Utah. 
We expect that registration fees will be similar to last year, and
that
registration will open in early July.
Thank you for your interest in the conference. We hope that you'll be
able
to join us in November.
Regards,
Conference Management
 

 
 
Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: DevCon 2003

[Kevin Graeme]

Looking at these sites:

http://www.slctravel.com/
http://www.utah.com/cities/slc.htm

Not much.

-Kevin

> Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> 
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted
> 
> 
> :: Wow, what a thorough document it is! 
> 
> 
>   Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
>   to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
>   we please reference the URL again just in case some 
>   of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?  
> 
>   Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
>   where the heck WAS that original message"
> 

Well, since I have a vested interest in people finding this here's the
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http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

Jim Davis


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RE: DevCon 2003

[Mark Leder]

> Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...

Hopefully a ton of snow for us skiers and boarders . . .

Thanks, Mark 

-Original Message-
From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: DevCon 2003


Got this from the CFDJ list:
 
 I just emailed MM the other day asking about DevCon and below is
their reply. Hope this helps, Steve

 
Although not officially announced yet, the Macromedia annual conference will
be held November 18-21, 2003 in Salt Lake City, Utah. 
We expect that registration fees will be similar to last year, and that
registration will open in early July. Thank you for your interest in the
conference. We hope that you'll be able to join us in November. Regards,
Conference Management
 

 
 
Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: DevCon 2003

[Jim Davis]

> Bryan wrote:
> >... and I only stated the FACTS
> 
> Please don't pursue this.  You're trying to pick a fight and 
> it doesn't belong here.
> 
> As for the conference, thats actually great news.  Salt Lake 
> is a hub for Delta, I think, and you can get dirt cheap 
> flights there, although we usually have to make that run on 
> those puny little Canadair RJ's.
> 
> I wonder where the closest Motel 6 is :D.  

Well - it's still pretty far for a fat man to fly... But it's better
than San Diego (that's just way too far away from the ocean).

I wonder if I can convince Met to pay for me again this year... Five
years running and every year I think I'll have to pay out of my pocket
they come through last minute.


Of course one nice thing is that the hotel will just HAVE to be cheaper
than the damn Swan and Dolphin.  ;^)

Jim Davis


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Re: CommerceBlocks -- Form Building software

[Adam Churvis]

After midnight tonight you will be able to download CommerceBlocks V2.1 from
our interim website www.ProductivityEnhancement.com, and also extend your
trial period until the end of April 2003.  I'll email this list again when
everything is ready to download.

This is the same version that ships with The ColdFusion MX Bible (which just
now hit the bookstores).

You'll also be able to download LoRCAT, the Load Reduction and Concentration
Analysis Tool for ColdFusion.  LoRCAT greatly speeds every ColdFusion
application on Earth, guaranteed.

Don't go to the old CommerceBlocks.com website, because that has the old
timed-out version on it.

Our new website with full licensing capabilities will be online at the end
of April.

Enjoy! :)

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Member of Team Macromedia

Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training
ColdFusion MX and SQL Server 2000 Class:
April 28, 2003 - May 2, 2003
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- Original Message -
From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:19 AM
Subject: Form Building software


> Is there any good software out there that will allow me to build simple
> forms for CF (I'm in the process of designing my own, but if there's
> something done, why reinvent the wheel?)  I'm tired of creating the
largely
> repetitive code for database entry forms and the connected
> add/update/delete scripts.
>
> T
>
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Adrocknaphobia Jones]

Actually you said it was an 'illegal war' which is pretty unfactual. But
yeah, I'm not trying to argue about the war when I could be arguing
about MM and this despairing news that the conference may be in Salt
Lake City. I mean, no offense to anyone who lives there, but I would
never want to vacation there. Orlando, and San Diego on the other
hand...

I mean... yeah... maybe I can pick up any extra wife... or two.

(I'm joking dear)

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DevCon 2003

Boo Hoo...press delete it's a free world (for the moment)

BTW I didn't mention the "P" word and I only stated the FACTS

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
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www.macromedia.com
-
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Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Edwards Robert (air0rae)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> Please try to keep personal political views out of the discussions on
this
> list.  I read the messages on here to keep informed of ColdFusion
items in
> the world, not hear disparaging remarks about the President, the War
or
any
> other global issues.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
>
>
> Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been
nailed
> down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due
to
the
> illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso
who
> knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> > Goodness, this may change a lot.
> > If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
> > one week to budget for it)
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central
loaction
> > that would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: DevCon 2003

[Matt Robertson]

Bryan wrote:
>... and I only stated the FACTS

Please don't pursue this.  You're trying to pick a fight and it doesn't belong here.

As for the conference, thats actually great news.  Salt Lake is a hub for Delta, I 
think, and you can get dirt cheap flights there, although we usually have to make that 
run on those puny little Canadair RJ's.

I wonder where the closest Motel 6 is :D.  

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-- Original Message --
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:20:49 -0800

>Boo Hoo...press delete it's a free world (for the moment)
>
>BTW I didn't mention the "P" word and I only stated the FACTS
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
>Macromedia Associate Partner
>www.macromedia.com
>-
>Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
>Founder & Director
>www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>- Original Message -
>From: "Edwards Robert (air0rae)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:10 PM
>Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
>> Please try to keep personal political views out of the discussions on this
>> list.  I read the messages on here to keep informed of ColdFusion items in
>> the world, not hear disparaging remarks about the President, the War or
>any
>> other global issues.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:07 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
>>
>>
>> Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been
>nailed
>> down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due to
>the
>> illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso who
>> knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|
>>
>> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>> t. 250.920.8830
>> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> -
>> Macromedia Associate Partner
>> www.macromedia.com
>> -
>> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
>> Founder & Director
>> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>>
>>
>> > Goodness, this may change a lot.
>> > If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
>> > one week to budget for it)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
>> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
>> > that would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
>> > The Children's Medical Center
>> > One Children's Plaza
>> > Dayton, OH 45404
>> > 937-641-4293
>> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
>> >
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 
>
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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Les Mizzell]

:: Wow, what a thorough document it is! 


  Not to complain, but when we post replies in reference 
  to an original that had an important URL in it, could 
  we please reference the URL again just in case some 
  of us slow peeps missed the it first time around?  

  Saves us time digging through the archives going "now 
  where the heck WAS that original message"


Thanks,

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RE: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation

[Barney Boisvert]

legality is not the issue, it's whether or not it will be supported by MM.
Last I heard, MM doesn't support OSX for production, although you're free to
us it that way, assuming you purchase the appropriate licences (CFMX/J2EE
licences are not bound to a J2EE server or OS, they will work anywhere).

barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:13 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation
>
>
> Did I hear someone say recently that you can legally run CFMXJ2EE on OSX
> as a production server? I thought that it was just for Development, has
> this changed?
>
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation
>
>
> On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 19:14 US/Pacific, Tilbrook, Peter wrote:
> > I'm going to attempt to install CFMX for Mac OS X (again!). ... If I
> > get stuck is there anyone in Canberra (Australia) who has installed it
> > successfully themselves? I'm not even sure if the G4's ship with a web
> > server installed.
>
> If you get stuck and you're on IM, ping me and I'll try to help (since
> I've installed CFMX many, many times on my G4):
>   seancorfield (AIM, YIM)
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN)
>
> As someone else said, you get Apache 1.3.x built-in (1.3.26 with the
> original 10.2 and it got upgraded to 1.3.27 via Software Update at some
> point).
>
> The JRun install is a breeze (just double-click and answer a few simple
> questions). The CFMX for J2EE setup is slightly more complex - the
> installer creates a directory containing WAR/EAR files and it's better
> to manually deploy those...
>
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Lomvardias Christopher]

Here's the response I got to a recent inquiry I made.

--
Hello, 
Thank you for your continued interest in DevCon 2003.  As you may be aware,
we have changed the date and location and the conference will no longer be
held Sept 7-10 in San Diego, CA.  We have not yet released the new
conference date or location but expect that the information will be
available within the next week or two on Macromedia.com.  Please continue to
check the website for the most recent updates.
 
If you are looking for registration information for budgeting purposes, we
expect that the cost per attendee will be roughly the same as it was last
year; $895 early registration fee, $1050 full registration fee.
 
Regards,
Conference Mangement
--

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


At 02:51 PM 3/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Goodness, this may change a lot.
>If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
>one week to budget for it)

They had the dates on literature at DevCon 2002. This means the contract 
was signed 1-2 years in advance, as large events like this usually are. Its 
in San Diego,and I doubt veryu highly that MACR would change venues this 
close to the conference (6 months in nothing in terms of planning a large 
scale conference). Registration price will be comparable. Hotel will be 
between 200-250 per night. I think its actually the Westin near the 
convention center if I'm not mistaken.

hope this helps.

>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
>mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
>that
>would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>
>
>
>Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
>The Children's Medical Center
>One Children's Plaza
>Dayton, OH 45404
>937-641-4293
>http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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Re: DevCon 2003

[Bryan Stevenson]

Boo Hoo...press delete it's a free world (for the moment)

BTW I didn't mention the "P" word and I only stated the FACTS

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Edwards Robert (air0rae)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> Please try to keep personal political views out of the discussions on this
> list.  I read the messages on here to keep informed of ColdFusion items in
> the world, not hear disparaging remarks about the President, the War or
any
> other global issues.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
>
>
> Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been
nailed
> down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due to
the
> illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso who
> knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
> Subject: RE: DevCon 2003
>
>
> > Goodness, this may change a lot.
> > If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
> > one week to budget for it)
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
> > that would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
> 
> 
> I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think 
> it was mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a 
> central loaction that would make sensebut that's a whole 
> different rant). ;-)

Being selfish this is the beszt news I've heard for a while.  Fat men do
like eight hours on airplanes!

Here's hoping that they bring it back Boston... ;^)

Jim Davis


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RE: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation

[Joshua Miller]

Did I hear someone say recently that you can legally run CFMXJ2EE on OSX
as a production server? I thought that it was just for Development, has
this changed?

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation


On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 19:14 US/Pacific, Tilbrook, Peter wrote:
> I'm going to attempt to install CFMX for Mac OS X (again!). ... If I 
> get stuck is there anyone in Canberra (Australia) who has installed it
> successfully themselves? I'm not even sure if the G4's ship with a web
> server installed.

If you get stuck and you're on IM, ping me and I'll try to help (since 
I've installed CFMX many, many times on my G4):
seancorfield (AIM, YIM)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN)

As someone else said, you get Apache 1.3.x built-in (1.3.26 with the 
original 10.2 and it got upgraded to 1.3.27 via Software Update at some 
point).

The JRun install is a breeze (just double-click and answer a few simple 
questions). The CFMX for J2EE setup is slightly more complex - the 
installer creates a directory containing WAR/EAR files and it's better 
to manually deploy those...

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood


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OT: DevCon 2003

[Candace Cottrell]

Got this from the CFDJ list:
 
 I just emailed MM the other day asking about DevCon and below is
their reply.
Hope this helps,
Steve

 
Although not officially announced yet, the Macromedia annual conference
will
be held November 18-21, 2003 in Salt Lake City, Utah. 
We expect that registration fees will be similar to last year, and
that
registration will open in early July.
Thank you for your interest in the conference. We hope that you'll be
able
to join us in November.
Regards,
Conference Management
 

 
 
Hmmm... what's in Salt Lake City?? Just curious...
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
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RE: CFMX Updater 3 and Apache 1.3.27

[Barney Boisvert]

You should be fine.

Apache 2 and apache 1 are deemed two separate products (and they really
are), so there are separate restrictions for each, just like between apache
2 and IIS.  It's confusing, but there are two points for MX compliance,
1.3.x where x is greater than  and 2.0.y where y is greater than
.

barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Wigfall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX Updater 3 and Apache 1.3.27
>
>
> Will ColdFusion MX Updater 3 work with Apache 1.3.27 running on RedHat
> Linux 6.2, or is it absolutely necessary to only install Update 3 only
> on Apache 2.043 or higher?  Updater 2 required an Apache upgrade only
> if;  No Updater was installed and you were runing Apache 2.0.3x, or if;
> Updater 1 was installed and you were running Apache 2.0.40.  Also, will
> Apache 2.0.44 run on RedHat Linux 6.2, and how do you install it, does
> the old Apache have to be uninstalled first, are there any upgrade
> instructions available?
>
> 
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RE: Fusebox / MVC / CFOBJECTS

[Barney Boisvert]

Well, that depends on who you ask, what your goals are, and what you have
experience with.  My recomendation is fusebox (No "is FB good or bad" flame
wars, please), but that's just me.  MVC can mean a lot of things, so I'm not
sure what you connotation you're using.  Pretty much any good
framework/methodology will use, or provide a means to use, the MVC design
pattern, fusebox included (those of you who don't believe me and want to
argue, please just hold your tongue, I'm friggin swamped).

If you're using CFMX and want to do a CFC-based system, then FB is
definitely not for you, as it's a procedural framework.  I suspect that
CFobjects is a poor choice, now that CFMX provides some OO-type features
with CFCs, but I've never used it, so I don't know.

I'm sure others will chime in.

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> -Original Message-
> From: BloodPython 2003 (bol) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:57 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Fusebox / MVC / CFOBJECTS
>
>
> What is the fashion methodology these days? Witch one do you
> recommend for developing e-commerce applications using CF?
>
> Thx
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Edwards Robert (air0rae)]

Please try to keep personal political views out of the discussions on this
list.  I read the messages on here to keep informed of ColdFusion items in
the world, not hear disparaging remarks about the President, the War or any
other global issues.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DevCon 2003


Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been nailed
down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due to the
illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso who
knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> Goodness, this may change a lot.
> If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and 
> one week to budget for it)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was 
> mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction 
> that would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>
>
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 

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Re: DevCon 2003

[Bryan Stevenson]

Yes on the UG Manager list someone asked today if a location had been nailed
down yet.  Well no answer yet and MM just cancelled a new event (due to the
illegal war) they had been playing up bigtime the past 2 weeksso who
knows what'll happen to DevCon :-|

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> Goodness, this may change a lot.
> If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
> one week to budget for it)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
> that
> would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>
>
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Bryan F. Hogan]

The last that I had heard, last year after DevCon this year's was going to
be held in San Fran. I was thinking this up until today where I have been
told that there are no plans yet.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Team Macromedia Volunteer
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DevCon 2003


Didn't you knowthere is no west coast when talking to MM...apparently we
do not exist and bring revenue to their company *insert more bitter nasty
comments here from a disgruntled CFUG manager here*

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: "Paul Kenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> I too have heard that San Diego is no longer going to happen.  Too bad.
It
> might be nice for a change to ackowledge us on the west coast.
>
> Paul Kenney
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
> >
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central
> > loaction that
> > would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > -
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54 AM
> > Subject: OT: DevCon 2003
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We
> > have to have
> > > our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I
> > want to go I
> > > need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
> > > numbers?
> > >
> > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > > The Children's Medical Center
> > > One Children's Plaza
> > > Dayton, OH 45404
> > > 937-641-4293
> > > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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CFMX Updater 3 and Apache 1.3.27

[Richard Wigfall]

Will ColdFusion MX Updater 3 work with Apache 1.3.27 running on RedHat 
Linux 6.2, or is it absolutely necessary to only install Update 3 only 
on Apache 2.043 or higher?  Updater 2 required an Apache upgrade only 
if;  No Updater was installed and you were runing Apache 2.0.3x, or if; 
Updater 1 was installed and you were running Apache 2.0.40.  Also, will 
Apache 2.0.44 run on RedHat Linux 6.2, and how do you install it, does 
the old Apache have to be uninstalled first, are there any upgrade 
instructions available?

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Re: Flash remoting example?

[Candace Cottrell]

I'm no expert, but I believe you will need to set a variable in your cfc
equal to the recordcount and then reference it that way. so something
like
 
In your cfc:

 
 
Please, anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/28/2003 1:36:19 PM >>>
I just started messing with the flash remoting photo gallery example.
Im a little confused about action script.  How do I tell it the
recordcount of the query to dynamically set the amount of images in
the
photogalley?

Here is the action script provided by the example.  I'd like to
replace
the 5 where it says "if (whichPic<5)" with the recordcount from my
query.  Any suggestions?

Emmet

// load NetServices lib
#include "NetServices.as"
#include "NetDebug.as"
// initialize variables and properties


whichPic = 1;
bload = true;
// upon clicking 'next', increment pic and set bLoad
next.onPress = function() {
if (whichPic<5) {
bLoad = true;
whichpic++;
}
}
// upon clicking 'prev', decrement pic and set bLoad
back.onPress = function() {
if (whichPic>1) {
bLoad = true;
whichpic--;
}
};
_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
if (bLoad) {
input = whichPic;
// make call to CF method, passing it dynamically
generated image number
directoryService.getSlide(whichPic);
bLoad = false;
}
};
// --
// Handlers for data coming in from server
// --
function getSlide_Result(resultRecordset) {
// pass "slidePath" variable returned by CF to loadMovie
function
loadMovie(resultRecordSet.slidePath, "square");
descriptionField = resultRecordSet.description;
// interface.text = resultRecordSet.description;
bLoaded = true;
}
// --
// Start up the application
// --
if (inited == null) {
// do this code only once
inited = true;
// set the default gateway URL (for use in authoring)

NetServices.setDefaultGatewayUrl("http://localhost:8500/flashservices/ga

teway");
// connect to the gateway
gateway_conn = NetServices.createGatewayConnection();
// get a reference to the service
var serviceAddress = "users.frontiertown";
directoryService = gateway_conn.getService(serviceAddress,
this);
} 

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RE: DevCon 2003

[Alexander Sherwood]

At 02:51 PM 3/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Goodness, this may change a lot.
>If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
>one week to budget for it)

They had the dates on literature at DevCon 2002. This means the contract 
was signed 1-2 years in advance, as large events like this usually are. Its 
in San Diego,and I doubt veryu highly that MACR would change venues this 
close to the conference (6 months in nothing in terms of planning a large 
scale conference). Registration price will be comparable. Hotel will be 
between 200-250 per night. I think its actually the Westin near the 
convention center if I'm not mistaken.

hope this helps.

>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
>mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
>that
>would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>
>
>
>Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
>The Children's Medical Center
>One Children's Plaza
>Dayton, OH 45404
>937-641-4293
>http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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CFMX Updater 3 Available

[Steven Erat]

Don,

To respond to your question, Macromedia is currently working on an issue where a 
thread can hang while trying to get a connection to an unresponsive database. The 
issue will be the underlying driver's use of the Socket API's.  The ColdFusion Admin 
general Timeout may be exceeded in that case, and the CFQUERY tag timeout does not 
have any role until after the connection has been established.  In a particular test 
I've recently ran, an attempted CFQuery to a datasource where the database was down or 
unavailable took over 100 seconds to finally timeout even though the CFAdmin timeout 
was 30 seconds.  

In this scenario, the database may be unavailable for one of a variety of reasons 
including DNS server problems, a wrong ip entered in the CFAdmin dsn setting, or a 
firewall intermittently blocking traffic between CF and the database server.

This is an important problem that we are working on, and I'll provide any news on the 
topic as I get it.

One way to confirm if requests to a database are in fact backing up is to perform a 
full thread dump and then examine the results.  See the TechNote, Debugging Stack 
Traces in ColdFusion MX, for details:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18339.htm

-Steven Erat
Macromedia
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Fusebox / MVC / CFOBJECTS

[BloodPython 2003 \(bol\)]

What is the fashion methodology these days? Witch one do you recommend for developing 
e-commerce applications using CF? 

Thx
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RE: DevCon 2003

[Candace Cottrell]

Goodness, this may change a lot.
If it's still going to be in Sept., we only have 6 months to go (and
one week to budget for it)
 


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction
that
would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)


 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: DevCon 2003

[Bryan Stevenson]

Didn't you knowthere is no west coast when talking to MM...apparently we
do not exist and bring revenue to their company *insert more bitter nasty
comments here from a disgruntled CFUG manager here*

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Kenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: DevCon 2003


> I too have heard that San Diego is no longer going to happen.  Too bad.
It
> might be nice for a change to ackowledge us on the west coast.
>
> Paul Kenney
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
> >
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> > mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central
> > loaction that
> > would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > -
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54 AM
> > Subject: OT: DevCon 2003
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We
> > have to have
> > > our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I
> > want to go I
> > > need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
> > > numbers?
> > >
> > > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > > The Children's Medical Center
> > > One Children's Plaza
> > > Dayton, OH 45404
> > > 937-641-4293
> > > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: DevCon 2003

[CFDEV]

Can anyone from Macromedia chime in on this?

As Candace said, budget time is near.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DevCon 2003


I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction that
would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: OT: DevCon 2003


> Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We have to have
> our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I want to go I
> need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
> numbers?
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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RE: DevCon 2003

[Paul Kenney]

I too have heard that San Diego is no longer going to happen.  Too bad.  It
might be nice for a change to ackowledge us on the west coast.

Paul Kenney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: DevCon 2003
>
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
> mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central
> loaction that
> would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54 AM
> Subject: OT: DevCon 2003
>
>
> > Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We
> have to have
> > our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I
> want to go I
> > need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
> > numbers?
> >
> > Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > The Children's Medical Center
> > One Children's Plaza
> > Dayton, OH 45404
> > 937-641-4293
> > http://www.childrensdayton.org
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> 
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RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available

[Ruggiero, Kevin D]

Sure Sean- I'd be happy to tell you more:

We have a brand new machine, and this is our server configuration:
Compaq ML 370
Windows 2000 Server SP3 (IIS 5.0)
4 GB RAM
2x72 GB Hard Drive (RAID 1)
Dual 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 Xeon Processors
CFMX Professional, default JRE

Databases we connect to are:
Oracle 8i (8.1.7) on two separate Windows NT servers (connected to using
Oracle's JDBC/OCI 8.1.7.4 drivers)
Local Microsoft Access databases (using standard Access drivers from
coldfusion)

Also, we are trying to connect to network Access databases, but we've
thusfar been unable to connect to them (I have another e-mail to this
mailing list trying to fix this problem).  We're getting errors of
permission denied/exclusively opened by another user, despite the fact that
our CF MX server is running as a valid domain user account that has full
access to the directories the database is in, and that there is nobody in
those databases (we tried making copies of them that nobody was in for
certain- same error).  Also, our Seagate page server, running under the same
user account, has no problem connecting to these network db's.  But, I
digress...

The server is also running OrgTraks 3.1 (with a separate Resin web server on
port 8080), and Seagate Page Server/Web Component Server for serving up
crystal reports that talk to network & local Access databases.

We are not using any COM objects or CFX tags at all, nor are we utilizing
WDDX.  We have one web service running which is used for logging into an NT
domain (we used Rob Rusher's example to setup NT authentication from
ColdFusion and published it with slight modifications as a web service).
This is the basis of security on our Intranet.

Also, I'll reiterate that the site was running fine on CF 4.5.2- the
problems with server hangups started with CF MX, and then only once in
production and receiving a higher amount of traffic.

Now, I am not the only one having problems with server hangups.  There is a
very long thread on the ColdFusion webforums currently:
http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=143&threadi
d=468954.  Clearly, server hangup problems have been a widespread issue.

So far today Updater 3 has behaved well.  We have not had a crash.  If it
makes it through the day, that will be 1 hangup in just under 4 days- MUCH
better than Updater 2 was doing.  I'd recommend to anybody running CF MX
Updater 2 to upgrade immediately- it's to the people on CF 5 that I'd
suggest to keep an eye out for a little while longer first- but updater 3
may very well be the time to jump to MX.

If you'd like any more info, feel free to ask!  I'm eager to help, since
this really is such an important issue for the future of CF.

Thanks,
Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Updater 3 Available


On Friday, Mar 28, 2003, at 07:16 US/Pacific, Ruggiero, Kevin D wrote:
> But, I want to let those who may be thinking of going to production
> level with CF MX know that it may be a good idea to give it a month or 
> so at
> least and see what kind of feedback comes in.  I'm not yet convinced 
> that CF
> MX with updater 3 is necessarily up to snuff just yet.

I'm sorry you are experiencing problems with your setup. Many people 
have been running CFMX in production successfully, even before Updater 
3. The Macromedia "ColdFusion Examples" server has been in production 
for a year now with virtually no downtime. It was initially running a 
beta of CFMX (yes, we put a beta into production!) and then upgraded it 
to CFMX Enterprise when that shipped. As far as I know, it's still 
running the base release. And macromedia.com itself is running CFMX for 
J2EE w/Updater 3 and has behaved very smoothly, handling a lot of 
traffic.

Can you tell us more about your configuration and the sort of code you 
are running? COM, CFX, any unusual configurations? O/S, CPU, RAM, 
database etc. Perhaps your problems are due to the database drivers you 
are using? The more we know, the more likely we are to be able to help.

Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
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Re: DevCon 2003

[Bryan Stevenson]

I'm not 100% sure, but on the user group manager list I think it was
mentioned that DevCon may be on the east coast (not a central loaction that
would make sensebut that's a whole different rant). ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: OT: DevCon 2003


> Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We have to have
> our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I want to go I
> need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
> numbers?
>
> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> The Children's Medical Center
> One Children's Plaza
> Dayton, OH 45404
> 937-641-4293
> http://www.childrensdayton.org
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
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RE: Problem with view uploaded files (problem solved)

[Lee, Sima - Workstream]

Hi Philip,

Thanks for your time. Now the solution is to copy the file from the forth server to 
the local server then view it from there. The credit should go to Shaun, the manager 
of Ottawa user group.

I also thank everybody who takes time to consider this problem.

Sima
-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Problem with view uploaded files


> What if you map the drive to a drive letter.
> Example:  H: = \\servername\filefolder\
>
> then in CFCONTENT use:  H:\whatever_you_need

You can't do that - CF logs in as a service, not on a desktop, so you
HAVE to use UNC locations



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OT: DevCon 2003

[Candace Cottrell]

Does anyone know where in San Diego this will be held? We have to have
our operating budgets in by the end of the week, and if I want to go I
need some numbers :) Would it be feasible to go off of last year's
numbers?
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Address standardization

[Dan O'Keefe]

I did a couple of years ago using First Logic.

http://www.firstlogic.com/downloads/demo1.asp

It was a pretty simple COM-XML implementation.

Dan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Address standardization


Hello List,
Has anyone ever had to do any type of address standardization for data entry
in their web sites? I am looking for suggestions and ideas from anyone in
the list who may have implemented such solutions. I have looked at a few
solutions (mainly USPS api and QAS quickAddress for the web) However i
cannot use USPS since we would need to check addresses for all our orders
both USPS and non-USPS ship.

Any suggestions and/or ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks

Andres

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Flash remoting example?

[Emmet McGovern]

I just started messing with the flash remoting photo gallery example.
Im a little confused about action script.  How do I tell it the
recordcount of the query to dynamically set the amount of images in the
photogalley?

Here is the action script provided by the example.  I'd like to replace
the 5 where it says "if (whichPic<5)" with the recordcount from my
query.  Any suggestions?

Emmet

// load NetServices lib
#include "NetServices.as"
#include "NetDebug.as"
// initialize variables and properties


whichPic = 1;
bload = true;
// upon clicking 'next', increment pic and set bLoad
next.onPress = function() {
if (whichPic<5) {
bLoad = true;
whichpic++;
}
}
// upon clicking 'prev', decrement pic and set bLoad
back.onPress = function() {
if (whichPic>1) {
bLoad = true;
whichpic--;
}
};
_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
if (bLoad) {
input = whichPic;
// make call to CF method, passing it dynamically
generated image number
directoryService.getSlide(whichPic);
bLoad = false;
}
};
// --
// Handlers for data coming in from server
// --
function getSlide_Result(resultRecordset) {
// pass "slidePath" variable returned by CF to loadMovie
function
loadMovie(resultRecordSet.slidePath, "square");
descriptionField = resultRecordSet.description;
// interface.text = resultRecordSet.description;
bLoaded = true;
}
// --
// Start up the application
// --
if (inited == null) {
// do this code only once
inited = true;
// set the default gateway URL (for use in authoring)

NetServices.setDefaultGatewayUrl("http://localhost:8500/flashservices/ga
teway");
// connect to the gateway
gateway_conn = NetServices.createGatewayConnection();
// get a reference to the service
var serviceAddress = "users.frontiertown";
directoryService = gateway_conn.getService(serviceAddress,
this);
} 
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Re: CFCs - get'ers Vs. return object

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> I'm just starting to write my first CFC in anger, as it
> were, and was curious
> about what others were doing.
> Are people writing a number of of
> getX,getY,getName,get methods, each
> returning a string/numer and then using
>name="objLocation">
> #objLocation.getName(156537)#
> OR writing a single get that returns a query or custom
> object, and then using
>method="get"
>   iLocId="156537"
>   returnVariable="objLocation" >
> #objLocation.description#

> Obviously, no difference in output, but writing lots of
> get'ers is time
> consuming, though provides better abstraction from the
> datastore.
> Also, each getX will make a database query, so outputting
> a list of the
> objects will be much slower using the first method than
> the second, as I see
> it.

> So I'm plumbing for doing it the 2nd way - is there any
> sort of consensous on
> this ?

Not that I've worked with CFC's as of yet, but there is a 3rd way.

Write a single pair of set / get functions into a "core" cfc and then have
all your other cfc's extend the core cfc, so that for any given component
you know that you can use #mycfc.getValue("propertyname")# to return
whatever that property happens to be whether it's a string, struct, array or
another CFC. For any property which needs special handling, write an
additional get / set method, then in the core get / set method check for the
existance of a get or set method specifically for that property, such as:


  

  

  

  


And of course, use a similar set function. This way you only have to write
getters and setters for properties that require special internal handling by
the CFC for business logic or technical reasons.

Ahhh the magic of OO. :)

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RE: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Hamm, Greg]

Ya cheers, I'll defiantly be recommending this article for all the new
developers I know, It even cleared up a few things for me.

Good job!

Greg Hamm
Partner
Coreillia Development
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Subject: ANN: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

Wow, what a thorough document it is!  Thanks for sharing!

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ANN: "Variables in CFML" Guide posted

[Brad Howerter]

Wow, what a thorough document it is!  Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Mac OS X - Jrun 4/CFMX installation

[Sean A Corfield]

On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 19:14 US/Pacific, Tilbrook, Peter wrote:
> I'm going to attempt to install CFMX for Mac OS X (again!). ...
> If I get stuck is there anyone in Canberra (Australia) who has 
> installed it
> successfully themselves? I'm not even sure if the G4's ship with a web
> server installed.

If you get stuck and you're on IM, ping me and I'll try to help (since 
I've installed CFMX many, many times on my G4):
seancorfield (AIM, YIM)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN)

As someone else said, you get Apache 1.3.x built-in (1.3.26 with the 
original 10.2 and it got upgraded to 1.3.27 via Software Update at some 
point).

The JRun install is a breeze (just double-click and answer a few simple 
questions). The CFMX for J2EE setup is slightly more complex - the 
installer creates a directory containing WAR/EAR files and it's better 
to manually deploy those...

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Re: CFMX Updater 3 Available

[Sean A Corfield]

On Friday, Mar 28, 2003, at 07:16 US/Pacific, Ruggiero, Kevin D wrote:
> But, I want to let those who may be thinking of going to production
> level with CF MX know that it may be a good idea to give it a month or 
> so at
> least and see what kind of feedback comes in.  I'm not yet convinced 
> that CF
> MX with updater 3 is necessarily up to snuff just yet.

I'm sorry you are experiencing problems with your setup. Many people 
have been running CFMX in production successfully, even before Updater 
3. The Macromedia "ColdFusion Examples" server has been in production 
for a year now with virtually no downtime. It was initially running a 
beta of CFMX (yes, we put a beta into production!) and then upgraded it 
to CFMX Enterprise when that shipped. As far as I know, it's still 
running the base release. And macromedia.com itself is running CFMX for 
J2EE w/Updater 3 and has behaved very smoothly, handling a lot of 
traffic.

Can you tell us more about your configuration and the sort of code you 
are running? COM, CFX, any unusual configurations? O/S, CPU, RAM, 
database etc. Perhaps your problems are due to the database drivers you 
are using? The more we know, the more likely we are to be able to help.

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Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
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Re: accessing parent cfc's variables

[Sean A Corfield]

On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 18:37 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> If I have a cfc that is nested in another cfc, is there a way to
> access the parent object's variables?
>
> I have something like this.
>
> 
> 
> 
> 

One option is to pass in the parent object reference (session.user) 
when you create the order and have the order remember it:


if ( not structKeyExists(session.user,"order") ) {
order = createObject("component", "cfc.order");
order.init( session.user );
session.user.order = order;
}


And inside order.cfc:





 

... rest of order.cfc ...
... instance.parent is owning user ...


A couple of things to note here:
- 'init()' matches what you do when manipulating Java objects (create, 
init)
- 'init()' returns void - meaning "I return nothing"
- 'instance' is convenient way to handle non-public instance data

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Re: Form Building software

[Clint]

here is the link again...
http://www.fishermenstudios.com/downloads/formbuilder.zip

Clint

- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Form Building software


> I am very interested as well.  Thanks!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric J. Hoffman
> DataStream Connexion
> www.datastreamconnexion.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Ince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:41 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Form Building software
>
>
> I would be interested also. I like this kind of application. TIA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clint [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Form Building software
>
>
> I have also just built a simple form builder that builds a form off of a
SQL
> Server table.
>
> You just point it at a table and it generates a form. If anyone is
> interested I will put it in a zip file so that it can be downloaded.
>
> Clint
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Massimo, Tiziana e Federica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Form Building software
>
>
> > "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Is there any good software out there that will allow me to build
> > > simple forms for CF (I'm in the process of designing my own, but if
> > > there's something done, why reinvent the wheel?)  I'm tired of
> > > creating the
> > largely
> > > repetitive code for database entry forms and the connected
> > > add/update/delete scripts.
> >
> >
> > Dreamweaver MX can really speed up that part of the job. I would
> > suggest
> to
> > give it a try
> >
> > 
> > Massimo Foti
> > Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
> > Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
> > 
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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accessing parent cfc's variables

[Brad Howerter]

Should the encapsulation extend to the children, or should they know about their 
parent?  I would think they'd know, since they have to know what methods to override 
and provide anyway.
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RE: Form Building software

[webmaster]

I am very interested as well.  Thanks!!

Regards,

Eric J. Hoffman
DataStream Connexion
www.datastreamconnexion.com



-Original Message-
From: Jack Ince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Form Building software


I would be interested also. I like this kind of application. TIA

-Original Message-
From: Clint [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Form Building software


I have also just built a simple form builder that builds a form off of a SQL
Server table.

You just point it at a table and it generates a form. If anyone is
interested I will put it in a zip file so that it can be downloaded.

Clint

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Form Building software


> "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Is there any good software out there that will allow me to build 
> > simple forms for CF (I'm in the process of designing my own, but if 
> > there's something done, why reinvent the wheel?)  I'm tired of 
> > creating the
> largely
> > repetitive code for database entry forms and the connected 
> > add/update/delete scripts.
>
>
> Dreamweaver MX can really speed up that part of the job. I would 
> suggest
to
> give it a try
>
> 
> Massimo Foti
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer 
> http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
> 
>
>
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RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

This message usually occurs when someone is accessing the physical file
using the access client (i.e. opening from a desktop).

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


I continue to get this error message when conneting to an Access database:
[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file
'\\Denya2619\C-Drive\AccessTest\stdparts.mdb'. It is already opened
exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data.

I have the coldfusion server running as my own account, which has full
control access to the share (C-Drive) and the NTFS permissions.  There
should be no problems opening the MDB.  Also, nobody else is in that
database.  I have now tried creating a local access database and linking to
the remote one, and connecting coldfusion to the local one.  This makes the
datasource create properly, but I get the error above when trying to
actually connect to the database.  I have also tried creating an ODBC data
source to the database, and connecting through that, but that is not working
either (exact same error).  If I connect directly to the database with the
Access driver, I get an error right when I try to add the datasource in CF
MX Administrator.

Can anyone help me out here?  I have no idea what the problem could be at
this point.  I feel like I've exhausted every possible round-about way to
connect to this network database.  I've tried it with the database as Access
97 and Access 2000, with compacting/repairing, etc.  Are there other JDBC
Access drivers that might work instead?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


This is the route I am now exploring- setting these up as ODBC Socket
connections in ColdFusion Administrator, and creating ODBC Data sources to
the databases.

This is my problem though: Can I setup an ODBC data source in Win2k without
mapping a drive?  When I try to do this through the ODBC Administrator, it
is forcing me to map a drive.  If I do have to map a drive, it will have to
be a client-side Windows mapping, and the server is generally NOT logged in.
So, I'm thinking that mapping generally won't even be available.  Am I
correct in this thinking?

Thanks for the help!
Kevin


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


You can go to the Datasources (ODBC) section of the administrative tools in
the control panel (assuming win2k, probably the same on NT4) and create data
sources there.  That's how you have to create data sources for dbs that CF
doesn't support natively.  Once created, you can configure CF-specific
settings in the administrator.  Of course, this only works if you're using
ODBC, but if you've got access, that'll be no big deal.

barneyb

---
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AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.765.8080 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can
>
>
> Thanks for the reply Bryan.  I tried compacting/repairing- same result.
> Interestingly, I've noticed the same erratic behavior on more than one
> Access database- both 97 and 2000.  It's extremely odd.  I've also thought
> about adding an ODBC connection to the database and going at it that way,
> but I noticed when I tried to create an ODBC connection it wants me to map
> the drive first- I can't just put in the full URL, which is not
> an option on
> this server.  Anybody know if there's a way around this, or have another
> suggestion?  Or, does anybody know if there's another way to add data
> sources other than the CF Administrator (which I really suspect may be my
> problem- as I've seen other bugs with it as well).
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can
>
>
> Just a shot in the dark, but try compacting and repairing the DB in
> question.  I've had Access DB's get locked like that before and
> that solved
> it (damn things corrupt at a drop of a hat).
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --

Re: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can

[ksuh]

Are you or someone else opening the database in their desktop?

- Original Message -
From: "Ruggiero, Kevin D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:34 am
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources.  please help if you can

> I continue to get this error message when conneting to an Access 
> database:[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC 
> Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
> Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file
> '\\Denya2619\C-Drive\AccessTest\stdparts.mdb'. It is already opened
> exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its 
> data. 
> 
> I have the coldfusion server running as my own account, which has full
> control access to the share (C-Drive) and the NTFS permissions.  There
> should be no problems opening the MDB.  Also, nobody else is in that
> database.  I have now tried creating a local access database and 
> linking to
> the remote one, and connecting coldfusion to the local one.  This 
> makes the
> datasource create properly, but I get the error above when trying to
> actually connect to the database.  I have also tried creating an 
> ODBC data
> source to the database, and connecting through that, but that is 
> not working
> either (exact same error).  If I connect directly to the database 
> with the
> Access driver, I get an error right when I try to add the 
> datasource in CF
> MX Administrator.
> 
> Can anyone help me out here?  I have no idea what the problem 
> could be at
> this point.  I feel like I've exhausted every possible round-about 
> way to
> connect to this network database.  I've tried it with the database 
> as Access
> 97 and Access 2000, with compacting/repairing, etc.  Are there 
> other JDBC
> Access drivers that might work instead?  
> 
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ruggiero, Kevin D 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if 
> you can
> 
> 
> This is the route I am now exploring- setting these up as ODBC Socket
> connections in ColdFusion Administrator, and creating ODBC Data 
> sources to
> the databases.
> 
> This is my problem though: Can I setup an ODBC data source in 
> Win2k without
> mapping a drive?  When I try to do this through the ODBC 
> Administrator, it
> is forcing me to map a drive.  If I do have to map a drive, it 
> will have to
> be a client-side Windows mapping, and the server is generally NOT 
> logged in.
> So, I'm thinking that mapping generally won't even be available.  
> Am I
> correct in this thinking? 
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> Kevin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if 
> you can
> 
> 
> You can go to the Datasources (ODBC) section of the administrative 
> tools in
> the control panel (assuming win2k, probably the same on NT4) and 
> create data
> sources there.  That's how you have to create data sources for dbs 
> that CF
> doesn't support natively.  Once created, you can configure CF-specific
> settings in the administrator.  Of course, this only works if 
> you're using
> ODBC, but if you've got access, that'll be no big deal.
> 
> barneyb
> 
> ---
> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> voice : 360.765.8080 x12
> fax   : 360.647.5351
> 
> www.audiencecentral.com
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if 
> you can
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Bryan.  I tried compacting/repairing- same 
> result.> Interestingly, I've noticed the same erratic behavior on 
> more than one
> > Access database- both 97 and 2000.  It's extremely odd.  I've 
> also thought
> > about adding an ODBC connection to the database and going at it 
> that way,
> > but I noticed when I tried to create an ODBC connection it wants 
> me to map
> > the drive first- I can't just put in the full URL, which is not
> > an option on
> > this server.  Anybody know if there's a way around this, or have 
> another> suggestion?  Or, does anybody know if there's another way 
> to add data
> > sources other than the CF Administrator (which I really suspect 
> may be my
> > problem- as I've seen other bugs with it as well).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if 
> you can
> >
> >
> > Just a shot in the dark, but try compacting and repairing the DB in
> > question.  I've had Access DB's get locked like that before and
> > that solved
>

RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can

[Ruggiero, Kevin D]

I continue to get this error message when conneting to an Access database:
[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file
'\\Denya2619\C-Drive\AccessTest\stdparts.mdb'. It is already opened
exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data. 

I have the coldfusion server running as my own account, which has full
control access to the share (C-Drive) and the NTFS permissions.  There
should be no problems opening the MDB.  Also, nobody else is in that
database.  I have now tried creating a local access database and linking to
the remote one, and connecting coldfusion to the local one.  This makes the
datasource create properly, but I get the error above when trying to
actually connect to the database.  I have also tried creating an ODBC data
source to the database, and connecting through that, but that is not working
either (exact same error).  If I connect directly to the database with the
Access driver, I get an error right when I try to add the datasource in CF
MX Administrator.

Can anyone help me out here?  I have no idea what the problem could be at
this point.  I feel like I've exhausted every possible round-about way to
connect to this network database.  I've tried it with the database as Access
97 and Access 2000, with compacting/repairing, etc.  Are there other JDBC
Access drivers that might work instead?  

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Kevin
 


-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


This is the route I am now exploring- setting these up as ODBC Socket
connections in ColdFusion Administrator, and creating ODBC Data sources to
the databases.

This is my problem though: Can I setup an ODBC data source in Win2k without
mapping a drive?  When I try to do this through the ODBC Administrator, it
is forcing me to map a drive.  If I do have to map a drive, it will have to
be a client-side Windows mapping, and the server is generally NOT logged in.
So, I'm thinking that mapping generally won't even be available.  Am I
correct in this thinking? 

Thanks for the help!
Kevin


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can


You can go to the Datasources (ODBC) section of the administrative tools in
the control panel (assuming win2k, probably the same on NT4) and create data
sources there.  That's how you have to create data sources for dbs that CF
doesn't support natively.  Once created, you can configure CF-specific
settings in the administrator.  Of course, this only works if you're using
ODBC, but if you've got access, that'll be no big deal.

barneyb

---
Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.765.8080 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can
>
>
> Thanks for the reply Bryan.  I tried compacting/repairing- same result.
> Interestingly, I've noticed the same erratic behavior on more than one
> Access database- both 97 and 2000.  It's extremely odd.  I've also thought
> about adding an ODBC connection to the database and going at it that way,
> but I noticed when I tried to create an ODBC connection it wants me to map
> the drive first- I can't just put in the full URL, which is not
> an option on
> this server.  Anybody know if there's a way around this, or have another
> suggestion?  Or, does anybody know if there's another way to add data
> sources other than the CF Administrator (which I really suspect may be my
> problem- as I've seen other bugs with it as well).
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Very odd behavior with data sources. please help if you can
>
>
> Just a shot in the dark, but try compacting and repairing the DB in
> question.  I've had Access DB's get locked like that before and
> that solved
> it (damn things corrupt at a drop of a hat).
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ruggiero, Kevin D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROT

RE: MX cannot connect to IBM DB2 Datasource

[Dave Watts]

> I'm trying to connect to DB2 version 7.1 using DB2 Connect 
> version 7 into our MVS. Our ColdFusion 5 Enterprise 
> automatically identifies the connection in CFIDE, which 
> is great. However, MX does not - it simply doesn't appear 
> as a datasource, and so I cannot see DB2 with CFMX. I've
> tried different hit or miss DB2 Connect Configurations 
> here, none of which have worked out yet.

ODBC datasources don't automatically appear in the CF Administrator in CFMX
- you have to configure an ODBC Socket connection within the CF
Administrator, and specify your System ODBC datasource within it.

Also, others have reported performance problems using ODBC to talk to DB2,
so you may want to try using a JDBC driver for DB2.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: Address standardization

[webguy]

vCard I've got a set of CFC's that use the vCard format works well. Been
messing around with a LDAP front end for outlook etc to use ...



-Original Message-
From: Andres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 March 2003 16:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Address standardization


Hello List,
Has anyone ever had to do any type of address standardization for data entry
in their web sites? I am looking for suggestions and ideas from anyone in
the list who may have implemented such solutions. I have looked at a few
solutions (mainly USPS api and QAS quickAddress for the web) However i
cannot use USPS since we would need to check addresses for all our orders
both USPS and non-USPS ship.

Any suggestions and/or ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks

Andres

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MX cannot connect to IBM DB2 Datasource

[Andrew S. Peterson]

Hi,
 
I'm trying to connect to DB2 version 7.1 using DB2 Connect version 7
into our MVS. Our ColdFusion 5 Enterprise automatically identifies the
connection in CFIDE, which is great. However, MX does not - it simply
doesn't appear as a datasource, and so I cannot see DB2 with CFMX. I've
tried different hit or miss DB2 Connect Configurations here, none of
which have worked out yet. 
 
Any ideas on what could be the problem are greatly appreciated.
 
Sincerely,
 
Andrew
 

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RE: accessing parent cfc's variables

[Raymond Camden]

It is a bit redundant, however, it adds a level of 'blackbox' to your
architecture. So, for example, if the child needs to get a value from
the parent, and you change the variable in the parent, all you would
need to do is update the method, not the N children who extend the
parent.

===
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Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

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"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Howerter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: accessing parent cfc's variables
> 
> 
> The child CFC automatically inherits all of its parents 
> values, so to me it seems redundant to call a method to get 
> them. 

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Re: Text Entries - on our guestbook

[Jerry Johnson]

My bet it is retaining the line breaks. It's just that HTML doesn't show them.

You need to replace all the line breaks with  tags
or
use  tags around the text

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/03 11:54AM >>>
I am having some trouble with my guestbook code and wanted to see if
anyone had an idea about how to do this better. My quest book inserts
each entry to a mysql database, the fields are varchar for the comments,
so you can put plenty of text into it.  The problem I have is that it
does not retain any of the line breaks.  

Does anyone have any suggestion on how to make it retain the line
breaks?  

Are there any editors you would recommend to make the input fancy with
italics, bold, etc?



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accessing parent cfc's variables

[Brad Howerter]

The child CFC automatically inherits all of its parents values, so to me it seems 
redundant to call a method to get them.
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RE: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?

[Robert Bailey]

Works fine:

192.168.1.25

Not sure what is the problem in this CFC. I can not show all the code, but
if you mail me off list, I can show you what is giving the problems, just do
not want to post it here.

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Collin Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?


Robert-

Can you try this component on your server and let me know your results?




recordset = queryNew("serverinfo");
queryAddRow(recordset,1);
querySetCell(recordset,"serverinfo","01, 192.168.1.25",1);
test_server = recordset.serverinfo;
test_server = Trim(ListGetAt(test_server,2,","));






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-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?


I can use it in my CFM pages, trying to make it reproducible, but it is
working in other CFC's, so I am not quite sure what the problem is. Without
giving all my code, let me give you the gist:

A query is made to the database, picking out the mail server. The query is
called results, has a table called data that holds the server that I need to
ping

Now this data is in the format (don't ask me why they did it this way, I
just need to work around it, ugh) "01, 192.168.1.25" or whatever, you get
the point

So now I do the following:


server = ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ",");




Empty string.

So I tried it this way:


server = ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ", ");




This hack does not work

And I tried this way:


server = trim(ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ","));




Pretty much I have tried many different ways, all return an empty string
through out the whole application. no idea what is happening, ugh.

I also tried writing a UDF, didn't work, I am pretty much about to give up.
Another application that I need to write in ASP and drop MX? This is the 2nd
time this month I have had to abort MX because of it's problems and move to
ASP to get what I need done. If this keeps up, not sure how much longer I
will be staying with CF. Getting a little tired of getting more then halfway
through a project and having to stop because of it's problems and moving to
ASP.


Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


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Subject: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?


Robert-

I've used trim() successfully with U2 and U3 running your same config. Want
to send me your particular reproducible scenario and I'll try it out?

Thanks.

Collin Tobin
CFMX QA Engineer



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Re: Form Building software

[Jason Miller]

I had inquired about it so count me for vote number 2
- 18 more to go :)

Thane Sherrington wrote:
> At 09:44 AM 03/28/03 -0600, Clint wrote:
> 
>>I could port it to access. It would really depend on demand for it as I am
>>busy with projects. But, if the demand proved to be high enough (like 20
>>people or more) I would port it to Access.
> 
> 
> I'd like to see it for Access.
> 
> T 
> 
> 
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Session Replication (was: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 22:04 US/Pacific, Jim Davis wrote:
> So lemme check for understanding here:
>
> Unless we specifially set up buddies sessions act just like they always
> did.  (Server dies, session dies)

Correct.

> When you DO set up buddies ALL session traffic (updates, creates, etc)
> are maintained on both/all buddies in REAL TIME.  So a server goes 
> down,
> another server has that data.

Correct.

> Meaning this isn't a performance solution (allowing any server in a
> cluster to use any session from another) but a stability/reliabilty
> solution (preventing angry people when servers go belly-up).

Correct. You have to tradeoff the robustness of session information 
against the performance hit of replicating it.

> So in a normal, simple (ignorant) cluster network traffic between the
> boxes is pretty minimal.  But in a session-sharing buddy cluster 
> network
> traffic can be very high between the servers.  I'm assuming that 
> session
> mirroring is working in real-time for the best possible disaster
> response and not caching or otherwise delaying updates.  Right?

Yup. Servers set up with 'buddy' servers for session replication 
automatically discover each other using JINI and then create 
connections between each other, over which to transfer session updates 
- using Java serialization (which is why you cannot do this with CFCs 
in session scope: they don't serialize).

> All this only works with J2EE sessions, not with regular old
> CFTOKEN/CFID sessions.

Yup. It's a function of the underlying J2EE server, not CFMX itself - 
so it's dependent on the particular J2EE server you use. You can't do 
this with Tomcat, for example, but you can do it with JRun (I actually 
set up a cluster on my Mac laptop and watched session data happily 
migrate from instance to instance as I stopped and started instances on 
JRun!).

> Have I got it or did I miss the boat (again)?

Happy sailing - you caught the boat!

> Thanks in advance.  A damn fine Director of Architecture you are.

*blush* :)

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RE: CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic) RESOLVED

[Igor Ilyinsky]

Thanks Neil... It worked with 'document.body.innerHTML'

Igor

-Original Message-
From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic)


use document.innerHTML which will return the source for the frame.

Neil

> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Ilyinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 March 2003 15:56
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic)
> 
> 
> Guys, I am going nutty trying to figure this out!!!
> 
> I have to capture an HTML 'snapshot' of a dynamic page and 
> then save the
> source to a static HTML page. The reason is that I want to 
> give my users
> a 'preview' of what the static page will be and allow them 
> the option to
> keep it, or refresh and try again with the potential of different
> results (because it is dynamic).
> 
> The problem is that the page that I am pulling for the 
> 'preview' is in a
> different directory, and CFHTTP's ResolveURL attribute does 
> not resolve
> all of the URLs, especially not the ones loading Flash apps.
> 
> What I'm trying to do now, is open the page in a different 
> frame, and if
> the user chooses to keep the page, I want to retrieve the 
> HTML from that
> frame. However, I have not found an object in the DOM that 
> will return a
> document's HTML source.
> 
> Any Ideas? I'm open to other solutions. Keep in mind that I can not do
> another HTTP call because that may load a different page, as it is
> dynamic. Also, If possible, I'd rather not make changes to the dynamic
> page this dynamic page.
> 
> TIA
> Igor
> 

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RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available

[Ruggiero, Kevin D]

Yes, I check our logs regularly- especially after a crash.  There's nothing
strange to speak of in there.  However, I did have some tnsnames timeouts
connecting to our oracle server that day, which is why I thought it might
have been caused by that.  Regardless, something like that is no excuse for
a server hangup/crash.  Also, it should be known that this site was migrated
from 4.5.1 sp2, and the only part of the code that underwent any changes was
the security code (which was obviously needed)- which remained simple.  The
site almost never used to crash/hang in 4.5.1.  I'd get maybe one hangup
every 2 months before.  Also, I'm not saying Updater 3 is necessarily
unstable/unreliable.  I'm just saying that I have in fact had a hangup with
it, and people should be wary before jumping in- even if that just means to
give it a month or two and see how it plays out.  I'll send another e-mail
to the list in a few weeks to give an update on how our server is running-
hopefully the info will be of use to people considering migration.

Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available


Kevin, this may sound obvious apologies if so, but do you check the
ColdFusion error logs regularly to see what sort of things are going on up
to your server hanging?

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper 

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From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available

I put Updater 3 in almost right away, since I was already on 2 and close to
rolling back to CF 5 due to the serious problems with the server hanging.  I
will say that this release appears more stable so far (4 days).  It had been
hanging on us almost daily (one day 4 times).  After applying Updater 3, we
had no problems for 2 days straight.  Then yesterday, it hung :(  I can't
begin to describe how severely disappointed I was.  Now, in fairness we were
having some network trouble yesterday, so it's possible that queries were
timing out or something and this wreaked havoc on the server.  I'm not quite
sure.  But, I want to let those who may be thinking of going to production
level with CF MX know that it may be a good idea to give it a month or so at
least and see what kind of feedback comes in.  I'm not yet convinced that CF
MX with updater 3 is necessarily up to snuff just yet.  I really don't want
to be negative about this- but there's nothing worse than dealing with a
crashing server (even if CFCs/web services/new security structure are 1000
times better to develop in), and I don't want others to have to deal with it
needlessly.

Kevin


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From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Updater 3 Available


Just a reminder that ColdFusion MX "Updater 3" is now available for free
download from the MM website.

In my opinion, this is very close to a full "dot-release" of CFMX, and
includes all cumulative major fixes in all product areas, and adds over 100
fixes, mostly focused around server reliability and stability.

If you've shied away from CFMX until now because of reported stability
problems, this is your release.  We're committed to supporting ColdFusion
and you, the ColdFusion customer, and we're working hard to ensure you get
the best ColdFusion products we can produce.

Sincerely,

The ColdFusion R&D Team




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Re: Form Building software

[Bryan Stevenson]

Well Thane you could create a  bunch of snippets which will take away alot
of that repetitiveveness.

I've also heard of a product/tool called XForms

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:19 AM
Subject: Form Building software


> Is there any good software out there that will allow me to build simple
> forms for CF (I'm in the process of designing my own, but if there's
> something done, why reinvent the wheel?)  I'm tired of creating the
largely
> repetitive code for database entry forms and the connected
> add/update/delete scripts.
>
> T
>
> 
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Re: DB Driven Collapsable Tree

[Bryan Stevenson]

It will work that way (expandable tree).  It all depends how you configure
it (i.e. click to expand or expand on mouseover).  I guess the point I'm
trying to make is the script works in a lot of older browsers (i.e. Netscape
4.07about the worst NS browser ever) ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: DB Driven Collapsable Tree


> Bryan:
> Where is the thing?  All I can find are menus at dhtmlcentral.com, and
we're talking about an Explorer-type tree.  That guy writes some neat stuff.
>
>
> Cedric:
> You say he charges a lot.  Are you talking about the US$49.95 for the Pro
ver?
>
> ---
>  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
> ---
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:04:55 -0800
>
> >www.dhtmlcentral.com
> >
> >trust me it's a great script ;-)
> >
> >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> >t. 250.920.8830
> >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >-
> >Macromedia Associate Partner
> >www.macromedia.com
> >-
> >Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> >Founder & Director
> >www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> >- Original Message -
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:18 PM
> >Subject: DB Driven Collapsable Tree
> >
> >
> >> Thanks. I found 1 or 2 scripts here that I might be able to modify a
bit
> >to get what I want. I used to use the CoolJSTree script thing, but they
are
> >now charging quite a bit for a simple tree expander. Thanks!
> >>
> >> Cedric
> >>
> >> >Take a look at the menus available at DHTMLCentral.com  They work
great
> >in
> >> >those browsers.  You'll have to make them data-driven, but it's not
that
> >> >hard (just some queries and loops).
> >> >
> >> >Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> >> >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> >> >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> >> >t. 250.920.8830
> >> >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >-
> >> >Macromedia Associate Partner
> >> >www.macromedia.com
> >> >-
> >> >Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> >> >Founder & Director
> >> >www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> >> >- Original Message -
> >> >From: "Cedric Villat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:08 AM
> >> >Subject: DB Driven Collapsable Tree
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I'm looking for a tree structure that can be expanded and collapsed
> >much
> >> >> like Windows Explorer. It needs to be built from my DB tree
structure I
> >> >> already have setup. It has to work on IE and NS4. Any ideas? I
assume
> >> >either
> >> >> Javascript or DHTML will do and I'm sure this has been discussed
> >before.
> >> >Any
> >> >> suggestions?
> >> >>
> >> >> Cedric
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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RE: CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic)

[Neil Middleton]

use document.innerHTML which will return the source for the frame.

Neil

> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Ilyinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 March 2003 15:56
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic)
> 
> 
> Guys, I am going nutty trying to figure this out!!!
> 
> I have to capture an HTML 'snapshot' of a dynamic page and 
> then save the
> source to a static HTML page. The reason is that I want to 
> give my users
> a 'preview' of what the static page will be and allow them 
> the option to
> keep it, or refresh and try again with the potential of different
> results (because it is dynamic).
> 
> The problem is that the page that I am pulling for the 
> 'preview' is in a
> different directory, and CFHTTP's ResolveURL attribute does 
> not resolve
> all of the URLs, especially not the ones loading Flash apps.
> 
> What I'm trying to do now, is open the page in a different 
> frame, and if
> the user chooses to keep the page, I want to retrieve the 
> HTML from that
> frame. However, I have not found an object in the DOM that 
> will return a
> document's HTML source.
> 
> Any Ideas? I'm open to other solutions. Keep in mind that I can not do
> another HTTP call because that may load a different page, as it is
> dynamic. Also, If possible, I'd rather not make changes to the dynamic
> page this dynamic page.
> 
> TIA
> Igor
> 
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I've made two papers available

[Simon Horwith]

FYI - if you go up to http://www.how2cf.com I have added links to two papers
that I think some of you may find useful - one on XML with ColdFusion MX and
the other on Structured Exception Handling and Debugging.

Enjoy!!

~Simon

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Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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Re: Form Building software

[Thane Sherrington]

At 09:44 AM 03/28/03 -0600, Clint wrote:
>I could port it to access. It would really depend on demand for it as I am
>busy with projects. But, if the demand proved to be high enough (like 20
>people or more) I would port it to Access.

I'd like to see it for Access.

T 

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CFHTTP - JavaScript - Frame Source (Dynamic)

[Igor Ilyinsky]

Guys, I am going nutty trying to figure this out!!!

I have to capture an HTML 'snapshot' of a dynamic page and then save the
source to a static HTML page. The reason is that I want to give my users
a 'preview' of what the static page will be and allow them the option to
keep it, or refresh and try again with the potential of different
results (because it is dynamic).

The problem is that the page that I am pulling for the 'preview' is in a
different directory, and CFHTTP's ResolveURL attribute does not resolve
all of the URLs, especially not the ones loading Flash apps.

What I'm trying to do now, is open the page in a different frame, and if
the user chooses to keep the page, I want to retrieve the HTML from that
frame. However, I have not found an object in the DOM that will return a
document's HTML source.

Any Ideas? I'm open to other solutions. Keep in mind that I can not do
another HTTP call because that may load a different page, as it is
dynamic. Also, If possible, I'd rather not make changes to the dynamic
page this dynamic page.

TIA
Igor
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RE: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?

[Collin Tobin]

Robert-

Can you try this component on your server and let me know your results?




recordset = queryNew("serverinfo");
queryAddRow(recordset,1);
querySetCell(recordset,"serverinfo","01, 192.168.1.25",1); 
test_server = recordset.serverinfo;
test_server = Trim(ListGetAt(test_server,2,","));
 





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-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?


I can use it in my CFM pages, trying to make it reproducible, but it is
working in other CFC's, so I am not quite sure what the problem is. Without
giving all my code, let me give you the gist:

A query is made to the database, picking out the mail server. The query is
called results, has a table called data that holds the server that I need to
ping

Now this data is in the format (don't ask me why they did it this way, I
just need to work around it, ugh) "01, 192.168.1.25" or whatever, you get
the point

So now I do the following:


server = ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ",");




Empty string.

So I tried it this way:


server = ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ", ");




This hack does not work

And I tried this way:


server = trim(ListGetAt(results.data, "2", ","));




Pretty much I have tried many different ways, all return an empty string
through out the whole application. no idea what is happening, ugh.

I also tried writing a UDF, didn't work, I am pretty much about to give up.
Another application that I need to write in ASP and drop MX? This is the 2nd
time this month I have had to abort MX because of it's problems and move to
ASP to get what I need done. If this keeps up, not sure how much longer I
will be staying with CF. Getting a little tired of getting more then halfway
through a project and having to stop because of it's problems and moving to
ASP.


Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anyone have this problem with CFMX?


Robert-

I've used trim() successfully with U2 and U3 running your same config. Want
to send me your particular reproducible scenario and I'll try it out?

Thanks.

Collin Tobin
CFMX QA Engineer


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