Yes, I check our logs regularly- especially after a crash.  There's nothing
strange to speak of in there.  However, I did have some tnsnames timeouts
connecting to our oracle server that day, which is why I thought it might
have been caused by that.  Regardless, something like that is no excuse for
a server hangup/crash.  Also, it should be known that this site was migrated
from 4.5.1 sp2, and the only part of the code that underwent any changes was
the security code (which was obviously needed)- which remained simple.  The
site almost never used to crash/hang in 4.5.1.  I'd get maybe one hangup
every 2 months before.  Also, I'm not saying Updater 3 is necessarily
unstable/unreliable.  I'm just saying that I have in fact had a hangup with
it, and people should be wary before jumping in- even if that just means to
give it a month or two and see how it plays out.  I'll send another e-mail
to the list in a few weeks to give an update on how our server is running-
hopefully the info will be of use to people considering migration.

Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available


Kevin, this may sound obvious apologies if so, but do you check the
ColdFusion error logs regularly to see what sort of things are going on up
to your server hanging?

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper <Web Application Specialists>

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Updater 3 Available

I put Updater 3 in almost right away, since I was already on 2 and close to
rolling back to CF 5 due to the serious problems with the server hanging.  I
will say that this release appears more stable so far (4 days).  It had been
hanging on us almost daily (one day 4 times).  After applying Updater 3, we
had no problems for 2 days straight.  Then yesterday, it hung :(  I can't
begin to describe how severely disappointed I was.  Now, in fairness we were
having some network trouble yesterday, so it's possible that queries were
timing out or something and this wreaked havoc on the server.  I'm not quite
sure.  But, I want to let those who may be thinking of going to production
level with CF MX know that it may be a good idea to give it a month or so at
least and see what kind of feedback comes in.  I'm not yet convinced that CF
MX with updater 3 is necessarily up to snuff just yet.  I really don't want
to be negative about this- but there's nothing worse than dealing with a
crashing server (even if CFCs/web services/new security structure are 1000
times better to develop in), and I don't want others to have to deal with it
needlessly.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Updater 3 Available


Just a reminder that ColdFusion MX "Updater 3" is now available for free
download from the MM website.

In my opinion, this is very close to a full "dot-release" of CFMX, and
includes all cumulative major fixes in all product areas, and adds over 100
fixes, mostly focused around server reliability and stability.

If you've shied away from CFMX until now because of reported stability
problems, this is your release.  We're committed to supporting ColdFusion
and you, the ColdFusion customer, and we're working hard to ensure you get
the best ColdFusion products we can produce.

Sincerely,

The ColdFusion R&D Team




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