Re: Easiest way to have a period in a struct key?

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Munn
Funny thing, I have just had this issue come up while working on code to 
consume a Web service. The issue is that there are lots of elements in the WSDL 
file that have a period in the name- e.g. contact.name. The convention comes 
from the earlier (pre-Web) days of the client-server application I am working 
with. It is perfectly valid XML notation to use a period in an element name. 

Since CF uses structs to pass data to web services, the dot notation for keys 
in structs needs to be supported for CF to be able to process these kinds of 
web services. Seems like enterprise application integration could in this case 
drive usage away from Macromedia's accepted best practices and toward a more 
practical solution.


I just tested this with the following code:

cfset myStruct = structNew()
cfset myStruct[testing.value] = this is a test
cfdump var=#variables# /

Works fine... I still think that my dad's maxim Just because you can
doesn't mean you should applies. I'm not a purist by any means, but
putting a dot in a struct key name is pretty drastically off the
beaten path of Best Practices. I wouldn't want to do it in an app
simply based on principle.

Granted, everybody needs to do what must be done to get the app
working... don't NOT do it just because of me. Hehe, yeah right... ;)
Like anyone would take me that seriously.

But, I'd strongly discourage it... there's got to be a Better Way. I
generally abide by Macromedia's published coding guidelines...
standards will make CF a stronger presence in the enterprise
application world, and they're pretty good standards.

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Re: Document Literal WebService with CFMX6.1

2005-03-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Tom,

Forgive me if I seem a bit dense here, but I may actually understand
what you're saying. ;) I hope you don't mind if I rephrase just to
prove to us all that I'm not a True Dolt.

A while back, I blew a day trying to create a struct in which an
element contained both a string and another struct... all I ended up
proving is that it can't be done. At least not by me (and I don't
think it's technically possible, so if you can do it, you've got Some
Voodoo). The point of this pointless excercise was to match the
structure of an XML schema that someone's webservice was expecting...
and, in doing so, I am apparently not alone.

What I understand from what you're saying above is that CF/Java/Axis
takes as an argument a struct which contains the values expected by
the schema, but that is not *organized* was the schema expects... and
the values are matched to their appropriate locations in the XML
schema based on their names.

So given a schema like this (this is close to the schema I was fighting with):

complex-type attr1=Charlie
another-complex-type itemA=name
name type=firstJacqueline/name
name type=lastSmith/name
/another-complex-type
some-dataThe second Angel/some-data
/complex-type

My struct could look like this:

k.attr1 = Charlie;
k[another-complex-type].itemA = name;
k[another-complex-type].name.first = Jacqueline;
k[another-complex-type].name.last = Smith;
k[some-data] = The second  Angel;

Although that seems wrong, since first and last should be at the same
level in the struct as the elements to which they belong. BUT that
would mean having something that looks like this:

k.attr1 = Charlie;
k[another-complex-type].itemA = name;
k[another-complex-type].type = first;
k[another-complex-type].name = Jacqueline;
k[another-complex-type].type = last;
k[another-complex-type].name = Smith;
k[some-data] = The second  Angel;

And that Won't Work because of the conflict between the multiple
elements with the same label in the structure... which consequently
causes me to wonder if this might work:

k.attr1 = Charlie;
k[another-complex-type].itemA = name;
k[another-complex-type].a.type = first;
k[another-complex-type].a.name = Jacqueline;
k[another-complex-type].b.type = last;
k[another-complex-type].b.name = Smith;
k[some-data] = The second  Angel;

But that doesn't seem like it would work because the Axis stub would
create getters and setters for A and B, even though there aren't
really A and B values in the XML... so maybe reverse the order of the
attributes:

k.attr1 = Charlie;
k[another-complex-type].itemA = name;
k[another-complex-type].type.a = first;
k[another-complex-type].name.a = Jacqueline;
k[another-complex-type].type.b = last;
k[another-complex-type].name.b = Smith;
k[some-data] = The second  Angel;

But, it seems to me that we'd again be creating getters and setters
for items A and B, which don't appear in the schema, we just have a
pair of complex-type entries that have the same element name but are
differentiated by an attribute... and I can't quite get my head around
how we can guarantee that, even if we could create a struct that would
work, that we can guarantee that the system will get first and
Jacqueline in the same element and last and Smith in the same element.

The XML schema that I was looking at are somewhere in the CF-Talk
archives... I'll see if I can drum it up. It's been weeks, if not
months, so I can't recall the details. However, unless there's
specific rules in WSDL to keep this scenario from arising, how do we
overcome the problem using CF structures?

Incidentally, I read the documentation, over and over again, as did
others, to little avail. I'm not complaining... I think, honestly,
that if the docs don't answer questions it's time to test, try, and
start sending emails or just move on... but, I think you should
know... the liveDocs pages on this particular issue were of very
little value. Maybe now, after reading your description above, they
may make more sense... however, without that further explanation
they're Not Helpful for this particular situation.

Thanks for the input, Tom... it's wonderful that Macromedianiates are
so willing to actually provide support on the lists, on a Sunday. :)

Laterz,
J

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:06:55 -0500, Tom Jordahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First, see the documentation for more info.
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Re: Easiest way to have a period in a struct key?

2005-03-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
In Case of Emergency, Put Emphasis Here:

Granted, everybody needs to do what must be done to get the app
working... don't NOT do it just because of me. Hehe, yeah right... ;)
Like anyone would take me that seriously.

Laterz,
J


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:16:48 -0400, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Funny thing, I have just had this issue come up while working on code to 
 consume a Web service. The issue is that there are lots of elements in the 
 WSDL file that have a period in the name- e.g. contact.name. The convention 
 comes from the earlier (pre-Web) days of the client-server application I am 
 working with. It is perfectly valid XML notation to use a period in an 
 element name.
 
 Since CF uses structs to pass data to web services, the dot notation for keys 
 in structs needs to be supported for CF to be able to process these kinds of 
 web services. Seems like enterprise application integration could in this 
 case drive usage away from Macromedia's accepted best practices and toward a 
 more practical solution.


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Re: Application.cfc - why? what's it for?

2005-03-14 Thread Barney Boisvert
Don't worry about redirecting in Application.cfc too much.  It is a
CFC, but it's a little different than most other CFCs, so the same
rules don't apply to the same degree.  It's really a very procedural
construct, it's just packaged into a CFC, because it makes things a
lot cleaner.

And you can only use one of Application.cfm and Application.cfc. 
Application.cfc has priority.  If it doesn't exist, then
Application.cfm (and the corresponding OnRequestEnd.cfm, if it exists)
is looked for and executed.

cheers,
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 Jim,
 I am just concerned that redirecting out of a CFC might create sloppy code.
 I would probably want to continue to use Application.cfm for the redirecting
 or use an include at the top of every page.
 
 Can I use both Application.cfm and Application.cfc? If so, what order do they
 get executed in?
 
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cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!

2005-03-14 Thread cf coder
Hello everybody, I really need someone to help me here. I'm new to charting. 
I'm developing a graphical interface to report the no of jobs logged in a 
period. The x axis displays the period (days) and the y-axis displays the 
number of jobs logged in a given day.

The data is pulled from the jobs table. The job logged date value is stored in 
the logdateTime column. I've written a stored procedure to get the count of 
jobs logged in a given day. Here is the code.

cfquery name=qJobsLogged datasource=dbname 
EXEC countJobsLogged
@startdatedate = '2005/02/01',
@stopdate = '2005/02/28'
/cfquery

!-- sp code starts here --
CREATE proc countJobsLogged @startdate datetime, @stopdate datetime
 
as
 
set nocount on
 
declare @x datetime,
 @count int
 

create table #temp_report(
 dtlogged varchar(15),
 jobsCount int
)
 
select @x = @startdate
 
while @x = @stopdate
begin
 select @count = isnull(count(1),0) from call
 where logdatetime = @x + '00:00:00' and logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'
 
 insert into #temp_report
 values(convert(varchar(15),@x,106), @count)

 select @x = dateadd(d, 1, @x)
end

select * from #temp_report
 
drop table #temp_report

set nocount off
GO
!-- sp code ends here --

The above sp loops from the user selected start date to the user selected end 
date and returns a resultset showing the no of jobs logged. Ex

JOBSCOUNT   DTLOGGED 
10  01 Feb 2005 
20  02 Feb 2005 
30  03 Feb 2005 

Here is how I'm building the chart

cfset scTo=evaluate(ArrayMax(ListToArray(valuelist(qJobsLogged.jobsCount)))+1)

cfchart show3d=yes gridlines=#evaluate(scTo+1)# labelformat=number 
scalefrom=0 scaleto=#scTo# format=jpg xAxisTitle=log date 
yAxisTitle=jobs logged chartheight=300 chartwidth=450 
showxgridlines=yes showygridlines=yes seriesplacement=default
  cfchartseries type=bar serieslabel=Jobs Logged
  cfloop query=qJobsLogged
cfchartdata item=#qJobsLogged.DTLOGGED# value=#qJobsLogged.jobsCount#
  /cfloop
  /cfchartseries
/cfchart

The above code builds the graph with the data returned by the query. So far, so 
good. I want each data point in the bar chart to give me a break-down of urgent 
jobs, critical jobs, normal jobs and jobs fixed on time.

I guess what I'm trying to say is take the results returned from the sp above 
and instead of just displaying a bar chart showing the count of jobs
logged in day, I want the chart to show me the urgent, critical, normal jobs 
for a particular day. I really hope this is making sense. The job priority 
information is in the jobPriority column in the job table. 
Job Priorities

Urgent - 5
Critical - 4
Normal - 3

Ex:

Jobs logged on 01 Feb 2005 - 10.
Urgent jobs - 4, Critical jobs - 4, Normal Jobs - 2

Can somebody show me the sql to get this information and the code to build the 
chart

I would really appreciate your help

Best regards
cfcoder

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RE: Verity DocCount

2005-03-14 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I ended up doing this - which I believe gives me the correct numbers.

cfcollection action=list name=lsCurrentCollections

cfset variables.verityDocCount = 0

cfoutput
cfloop query=lsCurrentCollections
cfif lsCurrentCollections.registered NEQ K2
  cfsearch collection=#lsCurrentCollections.name# criteria=
language=English name=docCounter 
  #lsCurrentCollections.name# : #docCounter.recordcount# br
cfset variables.verityDocCount = variables.verityDocCount +
docCounter.recordcount
/cfif
/cfloop
/cfoutput

cfdump var=#variables.verityDocCount#






-Original Message-
From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 March 2005 19:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity DocCount

The CFMX 7 cfcollection tag will be *much* faster.

Also you should try using an empty search instead of the wildcard, as the
wildcard search takes time, while the 'empty' search does not.


Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity DocCount

Excellent!! Just what I needed...d'uh can't believe I didn't think of it..
;-)


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From: TalkingTree.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 March 2005 15:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Verity DocCount

Do a wildcard ('*') search on each collection.  The 
collectionname.recordcount property on the result set will tell you the 
number of documents in the collection.

-Steven Erat


Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:


Basically I want to know a running count of all documents in my indexes.
There MUST be a way to do this.  I have contacted Verity who told me to
contact MM ;-)
...
Anyone know how to get the current doc count total for all Verity
Collections (K2)?   Now that the Verity Expressions are deprecated in MX
6.x/7 I am guessing I would have to leverage the VDK?

  








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UI Problems

2005-03-14 Thread Mickael
Hello All,

My developer and I are working on a CMS for various clients.  Our clients keep 
coming up with new requirements as the project grow or change.  We are not 
having any issues meeting these requirement for new functionality on the 
website.  But in my opinion we are not achieving an elegant and easy to use 
interface.  As I review the interfaces I am finding that they are very 
configurable, very scalable yet I feel that they are written for programmers or 
people of a technical background which kind of defeats the purpose of creating 
a CMS in the first place.  I am sure that many people on this have faced the 
same issue.  Can any one suggest a good resource for making easy to understand 
user interfaces, books, sites anything.  

BTW if anyone feels that they are an expert in this field I am also open to 
paying for Consulting in this matter.

Thanks

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RE: UI Problems

2005-03-14 Thread Micha Schopman
Mickael, 

This is something you hear often. Mostly this is the result of having to
much functionality and showing to much to the user. The end result often
is a busy interface. And still for experienced UI designers, it is often
a challenge finding a balance between what to show, and what to hide.
Key is finding a balance in often used commands.

It is very tempting to show all the goodies and functions to the end
user, but 9/10 this is the wrong approach.

There is more involved, if you are also looking at grammar, usage of
buzzwords, etc.

If you have some sketches/artwork I might give any comments on your
approach. You can also contact me off list, if you are interested in
some example approaches.

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: UI Problems

Hello All,

My developer and I are working on a CMS for various clients.  Our
clients keep coming up with new requirements as the project grow or
change.  We are not having any issues meeting these requirement for new
functionality on the website.  But in my opinion we are not achieving an
elegant and easy to use interface.  As I review the interfaces I am
finding that they are very configurable, very scalable yet I feel that
they are written for programmers or people of a technical background
which kind of defeats the purpose of creating a CMS in the first place.
I am sure that many people on this have faced the same issue.  Can any
one suggest a good resource for making easy to understand user
interfaces, books, sites anything.  

BTW if anyone feels that they are an expert in this field I am also open
to paying for Consulting in this matter.

Thanks

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RE: GRRRR Dreamweaver broke my client's web site

2005-03-14 Thread Calvin Ward
The reason is that the library and template functionality actually let you
see in Dreamweaver what you are working on while you work on it. But not
only that, if it worked correctly (which in this case it didn't), the
resulting html only code will run on any server that can serve up html,
regardless of application server or SSI functionality.

It does have its advantages, but of course has to work correctly to leverage
those advantages.

As an FYI, all of the library and template functionality is enabled with
commands contained html comments on the target pages.

- Calvin

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: G Dreamweaver broke my client's web site

I'll actually go one further. I'm no DW exeprt by any means, but why anyone
would use templates and libraries makes no sense when you could just use
SSI's. Not saying anything about Mike's judgement, just making a statement
about DW here. 

Why would I use them when I can use a SSI, change it in one place and just
upload *ONE* updated page? There's no scary do you want to update all files
blah blah? THAT thing is worse than The Grudge! THEN you have to upload all
the changed files? Screw that!

My two cents,

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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Calvin Ward
This is good, but I would do the following instead:

In the CSS put...
..searchHighlight {background-color: #00}

In the HTML...
You can span class=searchHighlighthighlight/span text within search
results.

The reason is that there should only be one instance of an ID in an html
document and the name of your CSS class should be semantic instead of
specific so that when the client asks you to highlight in green, you can
change your class attributes and everything will still make sense!

- Calvin

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Gmail highlighting

Wrap the search result word in the span tag shown below

in the CSS put...
#yellow {background-color: #00}

in the HTML...
you can SPAN id=yellowhighlight/SPANtext within search results.

Brook

At 10:00 AM 3/11/2005, you wrote:
Those with Gmail will notice the interesting turn on/off highlighting
feature after doing a text search of the mail.

Has anyone come up with an effective way to highlight a search term in a
result set using Cold Fusion?








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RE: Application.cfc - why? what's it for?

2005-03-14 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Jim,
 I am just concerned that redirecting out of a CFC might
 create sloppy code.
 I would probably want to continue to use Application.cfm
 for the redirecting
 or use an include at the top of every page.

 Can I use both Application.cfm and Application.cfc? If so,
 what order do they
 get executed in?

Not in an automated way... However, if you wanted to retain your
existing application.cfm functionality, I would expect you would be
able to cfinclude your Application.cfm in the onRequestStart section
of your application.cfc

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RE: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Orlini
Thanks Troy. It does not submit the value just refreshes though.

Robert O.

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Image Submit button


Try this instead for the button:

button type=submit class=formitemsimg src=/images/next10.gif
border=0 Next 10/button

-t


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:19:39 -0500, Robert Orlini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input 
 type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change it to 
 an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the next records.
 
 This works: input type=submit class=formitems value=Next 10 
 name=submitNext
 
 This does not: input type=image class=formitems src=/images/next10.gif 
 value=Next 10 name=submitNext onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
 
 I added onclick=javascript:this.form.submit(); but to no avail.
 
 Am I missing something here?
 
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cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!

2005-03-14 Thread Cliff Meyers
You should be able to accomplish what you're looking for just by adding 3
data series to the chart you're building.  The most straightforward way to
do it would probably be to modify your stored procedure to take another
input parameter called status so you could view the results for a
particular status type.  Then drop all 3 sets of results into the chart as
their own series.  The attribute for CFCHART you'll want to play around
with is seriesPlacement which can have values of default, cluster,
stacked, percent.  That will control how the different data points get
displayed.

Good luck!


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Bracket application

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Root
Anyone out there have a NCAA pool app written in coldfusion they'd be 
interested in sharing? =)

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RE: OT: Image Submit button

2005-03-14 Thread kola.oyedeji
You shouldn't need the javascript, the fact that it's an image should also
ensure that it's a submit button. Are you doing some sort of check on your
action page to see if it has been submitted?

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 14 March 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OT: Image Submit button
 
 Thanks Troy. It does not submit the value just refreshes though.
 
 Robert O.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Troy Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:29 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: Image Submit button
 
 
 Try this instead for the button:
 
 button type=submit class=formitemsimg src=/images/next10.gif
 border=0 Next 10/button
 
 -t
 
 
 On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:19:39 -0500, Robert Orlini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I have another problem with a submit button. It works well as input
 type=submit and moves on to the next ten records, but when I change it
 to an image it seems to just refresh the page but not go to the next
 records.
 
  This works: input type=submit class=formitems value=Next 10
 name=submitNext
 
  This does not: input type=image class=formitems
 src=/images/next10.gif value=Next 10 name=submitNext
 onclick=javascript:this.form.submit();
 
  I added onclick=javascript:this.form.submit(); but to no avail.
 
  Am I missing something here?
 
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Re: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Adam Haskell
Exactly what I was begining to type :) We're going through a lot of
un-needed code revisions to undo that which should not have been done.
Everything is an ID in our CSS and it is realy really messed up.

Adam H


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:38:45 -0500, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is good, but I would do the following instead:
 
 In the CSS put...
 ..searchHighlight {background-color: #00}
 
 In the HTML...
 You can span class=searchHighlighthighlight/span text within search
 results.
 
 The reason is that there should only be one instance of an ID in an html
 document and the name of your CSS class should be semantic instead of
 specific so that when the client asks you to highlight in green, you can
 change your class attributes and everything will still make sense!
 
 - Calvin
 
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 From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Gmail highlighting
 
 Wrap the search result word in the span tag shown below
 
 in the CSS put...
 #yellow {background-color: #00}
 
 in the HTML...
 you can SPAN id=yellowhighlight/SPANtext within search results.
 
 Brook
 
 At 10:00 AM 3/11/2005, you wrote:
 Those with Gmail will notice the interesting turn on/off highlighting
 feature after doing a text search of the mail.
 
 Has anyone come up with an effective way to highlight a search term in a
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Re: cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!

2005-03-14 Thread cf coder
thanks Cliff for the reply. That did occur to me and its probably the only way 
to do it. However, I don't know how to build the select sql query. From what I 
understand when using the count() function, I can't any other column name in 
the select.

select count(*), jobPriority from call
where logdatetime = @x + '00:00:00' and logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'

How do I get the query to return the count of jobs logged in a day and for each 
job return the jobPriority. Is there a way to do this?

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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Micha Schopman
When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
highlighting. Not span.

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Re: Bracket application

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Sherwood
Rick Root wrote:

Anyone out there have a NCAA pool app written in coldfusion they'd be 
interested in sharing? =)

  


A former co-worker of mine wrote one last year.

What's interesting is that he allowed you to enter the number of arrests 
for players and the severity of each crime for each teams for the past 4 
years, and it would factor in the likelyhood of a starter being arrested 
and affecting the teams's seeding and chance at winning.

Who knows if it was accurate, but it sure as hell was intersting to play 
with!

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Re: Problems at CrystalTech have gotten ugly!

2005-03-14 Thread Bud
Jared Rypka-Hauer wrote:

I was under the impression that the error came up when the CF session
timed out first, but, logically, that makes no sense. If the CF
session timed out, it would just ask Jrun for a new one... so the
issue pops up when CF expects Jrun to be holding session information
and Jrun can only reply with a session undefined error. So I'd set the
Jrun sessions to time out, say, 5 minutes past the CF sessions. That
way, if CF kills a session and Jrun creates a new one, you've only got
a few minutes of overlap. Conversely, since CF sessions will ALWAYS
time out before the Jrun sessions, Jrun will never be expected to
remember session information for CF that it has already dropped
because it times out first.

So c'mon, you guys, what's the big issue here? :P

That worked for 6.1. That stopped working in version 7.
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Re: Problems at CrystalTech have gotten ugly!

2005-03-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
*watches the SmugBug sitting on his desk die, crumble into dust, and
blow away in the breeze from the forced-air furnace since it's 9
degrees outside this morning*

Yep, it's Monday... ;)

I tried! I really, really tried!

Laterz,
J


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:13:21 -0500, Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jared Rypka-Hauer wrote:
 
 I was under the impression that the error came up when the CF session
 timed out first, but, logically, that makes no sense. If the CF
 session timed out, it would just ask Jrun for a new one... so the
 issue pops up when CF expects Jrun to be holding session information
 and Jrun can only reply with a session undefined error. So I'd set the
 Jrun sessions to time out, say, 5 minutes past the CF sessions. That
 way, if CF kills a session and Jrun creates a new one, you've only got
 a few minutes of overlap. Conversely, since CF sessions will ALWAYS
 time out before the Jrun sessions, Jrun will never be expected to
 remember session information for CF that it has already dropped
 because it times out first.
 
 So c'mon, you guys, what's the big issue here? :P
 
 That worked for 6.1. That stopped working in version 7.
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sql select statement help..

2005-03-14 Thread cf coder
Hello everybody, I really need someone to help me here. I'm developing a 
graphical interface to report the no of jobs logged in a period. The x axis 
displays the period (days) and the y-axis displays the number of jobs logged in 
a given day.

The data is pulled from the jobs table. The job logged date value is stored in 
the logdateTime column. I've written a stored procedure to get the count of 
jobs logged in a given day. Here is the code.

cfquery name=qJobsLogged datasource=dbname 
EXEC countJobsLogged
@startdatedate = '2005/02/01',
@stopdate = '2005/02/28'
/cfquery

!-- sp code starts here --
CREATE proc countJobsLogged @startdate datetime, @stopdate datetime
 
as
 
set nocount on
 
declare @x datetime,
 @count int
 

create table #temp_report(
 dtlogged varchar(15),
 jobsCount int
)
 
select @x = @startdate
 
while @x = @stopdate
begin
 select @count = isnull(count(1),0) from jobs
 where logdatetime = @x + '00:00:00' and logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'
 
 insert into #temp_report
 values(convert(varchar(15),@x,106), @count)

 select @x = dateadd(d, 1, @x)
end

select * from #temp_report
 
drop table #temp_report

set nocount off
GO
!-- sp code ends here --

The above sp loops from the user selected start date to the user selected end 
date and returns a 
recordset showing the no of jobs logged. Ex

JOBSCOUNT   DTLOGGED 
2   01 Feb 2005 
3   02 Feb 2005 
4   03 Feb 2005 

So far so good. I want to modify the select stmt in that I want it to also 
return the 
jobPriority and the jobNumber (these are columns in the job table) for jobs 
that it found logged on a particular day.

So for example if say for ex, there are 2 jobs logged on the 01 Feb 2005, I 
want the final recordset to look something like this

JOBSCOUNT   DTLOGGEDjobPriority jobNumber
2   01 Feb 2005 3   01JS1003
2   01 Feb 2005 2   01JS1004
3   02 Feb 2005 4   01JS1005
3   02 Feb 2005 4   01JS1006
3   02 Feb 2005 5   01JS1016
4   03 Feb 2005 1   01JS1018
4   03 Feb 2005 2   01JS1020
4   03 Feb 2005 3   01JS1021
4   03 Feb 2005 4   01JS1022

I was hoping someone could show me the sql to achieve this result

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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Calvin Ward
Hmm, would em be more appropriate in that context?

- Calvin 

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
highlighting. Not span.

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RE: OT - UI problems

2005-03-14 Thread Calvin Ward
I have to disagree. This is very much on topic in my opinion. Since when is
discussing UI design for a CF application not appropriate for cf-talk?

I liked the rest of your post, very useful and well written.

- Calvin

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Subject: RE: OT - UI problems

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First off you might consider posting this to cf-community - the discussion
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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Micha Schopman
At first I would say yes, EM would be a good candidate, however I would
reserve EM for larger code blocks. Like a note, a warning, etc.

This part states you might better use strong for it. But honestly, I
wouldn't care while both have their semantics in letting content stand
out. 

Thus, it would be logical to define that em emphasizes the enclosed
text with respect to the text in the enclosing element and should be
rendered in a manner that reflects this; whereas strong (renamed to e.g.
key or highlight, if we give up continuity, as planned for XHTML 2.0)
would indicate its content as key word or phrase in the context of the
entire document, to appear as highlighted when possible, and to gain
special weight in indexing.



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

Hmm, would em be more appropriate in that context?

- Calvin 

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
highlighting. Not span.

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Re: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
So, say, in terms of a wiki... strong would be viable for terms
while em would suffice for meta-information like last-updated-by:

Blah blah blah strongwiki term/strong blah blah blah strongthe
end of the world/strong blah blah blah strongDouglas
Adams/strong

emEntry created by Fred Smith, last updated on March 19, 1963, by
John Anderson/em

In other words, strong would act as a callout and em would be used to
provide details for the entire entry.

Is that the idea?

J


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:33:22 +0100, Micha Schopman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At first I would say yes, EM would be a good candidate, however I would
 reserve EM for larger code blocks. Like a note, a warning, etc.
 
 This part states you might better use strong for it. But honestly, I
 wouldn't care while both have their semantics in letting content stand
 out.
 
 Thus, it would be logical to define that em emphasizes the enclosed
 text with respect to the text in the enclosing element and should be
 rendered in a manner that reflects this; whereas strong (renamed to e.g.
 key or highlight, if we give up continuity, as planned for XHTML 2.0)
 would indicate its content as key word or phrase in the context of the
 entire document, to appear as highlighted when possible, and to gain
 special weight in indexing.
 
 
 Micha Schopman
 Project Manager
 
 Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
 Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: maandag 14 maart 2005 16:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting
 
 Hmm, would em be more appropriate in that context?
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting
 
 When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
 highlighting. Not span.
 
 Micha Schopman
 Project Manager
 
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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Calvin Ward
So, in that scenario, I would consider the following:

In the CSS put...
#searchResults strong {background-color: #00}

In the HTML...
div id=searchResults
You can stronghighlight/strong text within search results.
/div

This results in less code! Of course you can only have one search results
div using this solution.

- Calvin

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From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

At first I would say yes, EM would be a good candidate, however I would
reserve EM for larger code blocks. Like a note, a warning, etc.

This part states you might better use strong for it. But honestly, I
wouldn't care while both have their semantics in letting content stand
out. 

Thus, it would be logical to define that em emphasizes the enclosed
text with respect to the text in the enclosing element and should be
rendered in a manner that reflects this; whereas strong (renamed to e.g.
key or highlight, if we give up continuity, as planned for XHTML 2.0)
would indicate its content as key word or phrase in the context of the
entire document, to appear as highlighted when possible, and to gain
special weight in indexing.



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From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 14 maart 2005 16:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

Hmm, would em be more appropriate in that context?

- Calvin 

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From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting

When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
highlighting. Not span.

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Re: OT - UI problems

2005-03-14 Thread Mickael
Can someone send me Jim's note I did not get it, strange?
- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: OT - UI problems


 I have to disagree. This is very much on topic in my opinion. Since when
is
 discussing UI design for a CF application not appropriate for cf-talk?

 I liked the rest of your post, very useful and well written.

 - Calvin

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 Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 3:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OT - UI problems

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  Hello All,

 First off you might consider posting this to cf-community - the discussion
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RE: Gmail highlighting

2005-03-14 Thread Micha Schopman
Yes, that is the idea. 

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-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 14 maart 2005 16:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Gmail highlighting

So, say, in terms of a wiki... strong would be viable for terms
while em would suffice for meta-information like last-updated-by:

Blah blah blah strongwiki term/strong blah blah blah strongthe
end of the world/strong blah blah blah strongDouglas
Adams/strong

emEntry created by Fred Smith, last updated on March 19, 1963, by
John Anderson/em

In other words, strong would act as a callout and em would be used to
provide details for the entire entry.

Is that the idea?

J


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:33:22 +0100, Micha Schopman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At first I would say yes, EM would be a good candidate, however I
would
 reserve EM for larger code blocks. Like a note, a warning, etc.
 
 This part states you might better use strong for it. But honestly, I
 wouldn't care while both have their semantics in letting content stand
 out.
 
 Thus, it would be logical to define that em emphasizes the enclosed
 text with respect to the text in the enclosing element and should be
 rendered in a manner that reflects this; whereas strong (renamed to
e.g.
 key or highlight, if we give up continuity, as planned for XHTML 2.0)
 would indicate its content as key word or phrase in the context of the
 entire document, to appear as highlighted when possible, and to gain
 special weight in indexing.
 
 
 Micha Schopman
 Project Manager
 
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 Sent: maandag 14 maart 2005 16:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting
 
 Hmm, would em be more appropriate in that context?
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Gmail highlighting
 
 When taking a semantic approach, I would consider using strong for
 highlighting. Not span.
 
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 Project Manager
 
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RE: sql select statement help..

2005-03-14 Thread Hua Wei
Cfcoder,



=
select count(*) as numofjobs, jobPriority, jobNumber 
from jobs  
where logdatetime = #startdate# and logdatetime = #stopdate# 
group by logdatetime, jobPriority, jobNumber

order by logdatetime,jobNumber -- if need orderby

=

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From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: sql select statement help..

Hello everybody, I really need someone to help me here. I'm developing a 
graphical interface to report the no of jobs logged in a period. The x axis 
displays the period (days) and the y-axis displays the number of jobs logged in 
a given day.

The data is pulled from the jobs table. The job logged date value is stored in 
the logdateTime column. I've written a stored procedure to get the count of 
jobs logged in a given day. Here is the code.

cfquery name=qJobsLogged datasource=dbname EXEC countJobsLogged 
@startdatedate = '2005/02/01', @stopdate = '2005/02/28'
/cfquery

!-- sp code starts here --
CREATE proc countJobsLogged @startdate datetime, @stopdate datetime
 
as
 
set nocount on
 
declare @x datetime,
 @count int
 

create table #temp_report(
 dtlogged varchar(15),
 jobsCount int
)
 
select @x = @startdate
 
while @x = @stopdate
begin
 select @count = isnull(count(1),0) from jobs  where logdatetime = @x + 
'00:00:00' and logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'
 
 insert into #temp_report
 values(convert(varchar(15),@x,106), @count)

 select @x = dateadd(d, 1, @x)
end

select * from #temp_report
 
drop table #temp_report

set nocount off
GO
!-- sp code ends here --

The above sp loops from the user selected start date to the user selected end 
date and returns a recordset showing the no of jobs logged. Ex

JOBSCOUNT   DTLOGGED 
2   01 Feb 2005 
3   02 Feb 2005 
4   03 Feb 2005 

So far so good. I want to modify the select stmt in that I want it to also 
return the jobPriority and the jobNumber (these are columns in the job table) 
for jobs that it found logged on a particular day.

So for example if say for ex, there are 2 jobs logged on the 01 Feb 2005, I 
want the final recordset to look something like this

JOBSCOUNT   DTLOGGEDjobPriority jobNumber
2   01 Feb 2005 3   01JS1003
2   01 Feb 2005 2   01JS1004
3   02 Feb 2005 4   01JS1005
3   02 Feb 2005 4   01JS1006
3   02 Feb 2005 5   01JS1016
4   03 Feb 2005 1   01JS1018
4   03 Feb 2005 2   01JS1020
4   03 Feb 2005 3   01JS1021
4   03 Feb 2005 4   01JS1022

I was hoping someone could show me the sql to achieve this result

Best regards
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RE: sql select statement help..

2005-03-14 Thread James Holmes
Which will of course return a job count of 1 for each row, since it is
grouped by jobNumber.

To get the result set you want, if your DB supports it, you will need a
referential subquery something like this:

select j.jobPriority, j.jobNumber, (select count(*) as numofjobs from jobs
where jobs.logdatetime = j.logdatetime)
from jobs j
where j.logdatetime = #startdate# and j.logdatetime = #stopdate#

This assumes that logdatetime is just a date, not a date and time - you
might need to convert to a date part only in the subquery so the equality
holds true.

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:14 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: sql select statement help..

Cfcoder,



=
select count(*) as numofjobs, jobPriority, jobNumber from jobs where
logdatetime = #startdate# and logdatetime = #stopdate# group by
logdatetime, jobPriority, jobNumber

order by logdatetime,jobNumber -- if need orderby

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sql ( ms sql ) alter command

2005-03-14 Thread Protoculture
I wish to modify an existing table by increasing the varchar limit from 1000 to 
2000. Is there a alter table command that can be used after the field has been 
created?

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WDDX Status?

2005-03-14 Thread Jim Davis
Does anybody know if the WDDX implementation in CF 7 is actually updated from 
previous versions?  Is there any work on the project?

More to the point will the current release (now well over 5 year old) still 
work in modern Java/JavaScript implementations?

Any other tool that's as easy to use for the same thing?

I ask because I'm working on a project now and we've just lost our middleware 
(WebSphere/Struts) guy - we've since found out that his code was pure shite.

I'm building a decoupled interface purely in JavaScript/DHTML (as an IE HTA) 
and right now were passing data using a custom XML DOM dialect of my design - 
but it lacks a schema/DTD and requires custom programming and such.

I'm considering suggesting using something more mature - WDDX would certainly 
fit the bill, but I've already fought too many battles to get the inteface 
logic on the client.  I don't want to deal with the flak should it turn out 
that the old WDDX SDK code just isn't going to work.

Any suggestions?

I've looked at SOAP as well, but as you need to define all the elements anyway 
it would probably be easier to stick with what we have.

Thanks,

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RE: sql select statement help..

2005-03-14 Thread Hua Wei
As long as jobNumber is not a unique field, the query works. 

select count(*) as numofjobs, 
  convert(char(10),logdatetime,101) as DTLOGGED, 
  jobPriority, 
  jobNumber 
from jobs 
where logdatetime = '02/01/2005'  
and logdatetime = '02/02/2005' 
group by convert(char(10),logdatetime,101), jobPriority, jobNumber

===
Here is a test:

create table jobs (
jobid int identity,
jobPriority int,
jobNumber varchar(30),
logdatetime datetime) 

insert into jobs(jobPriority,jobNumber,logdatetime)
values(3,'01JS1003','02/01/2005')


insert into jobs(jobPriority,jobNumber,logdatetime)
values(3,'01JS1003','02/01/2005')

insert into jobs(jobPriority,jobNumber,logdatetime)
values(2,'01JS1004','02/01/2005')

numofjobs   DTLOGGED   jobPriority jobNumber  
--- -- --- -- 
1   02/01/2005 2   01JS1004
2   02/01/2005 3   01JS1003

(2 row(s) affected)






-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: sql select statement help..

Which will of course return a job count of 1 for each row, since it is grouped 
by jobNumber.

To get the result set you want, if your DB supports it, you will need a 
referential subquery something like this:

select j.jobPriority, j.jobNumber, (select count(*) as numofjobs from jobs 
where jobs.logdatetime = j.logdatetime) from jobs j where j.logdatetime = 
#startdate# and j.logdatetime = #stopdate#

This assumes that logdatetime is just a date, not a date and time - you might 
need to convert to a date part only in the subquery so the equality holds true.

-Original Message-
From: Hua Wei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: sql select statement help..

Cfcoder,



=
select count(*) as numofjobs, jobPriority, jobNumber from jobs where 
logdatetime = #startdate# and logdatetime = #stopdate# group by logdatetime, 
jobPriority, jobNumber

order by logdatetime,jobNumber -- if need orderby



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RE: sql ( ms sql ) alter command

2005-03-14 Thread Hua Wei
On mssql 2000,  

alter table [tablename]
alter column [columnname] varchar(2000)

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Subject: sql ( ms sql ) alter command

I wish to modify an existing table by increasing the varchar limit from 1000 to 
2000. Is there a alter table command that can be used after the field has been 
created?



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Re: WDDX Status?

2005-03-14 Thread Jim Davis
Sorry folks - I meant that for CF_Community.  It's really off-topic for this 
list.

That being said I'd still like to hear what you have to say - but please post 
to the CF-community thread if possible.

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FCKeditor - Dynamic Browse and Upload Directory

2005-03-14 Thread Brad Roberts
Anyone have a solution for setting the image browse and upload path in 
FCKeditor (version 2 with the default CF connector)?  I'd like to share the 
editor among several sites.

I've searched the FCKeditor forum, as well as this list, but haven't seen a 
solution.

Thanks,

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Re: Document Literal WebService with CFMX6.1

2005-03-14 Thread Phillip Duba
That's great news Larry. Look forward to hearing what Doug has done. I managed 
to get around what I needed to do by creating the SOAP envelope using CFXML and 
using CFHTTP to post it to the web service in question, but I would rather use 
the CFINVOKE/CreateObject path with structures. Thanks,

Phil

 Robert --
 
 You're not alone in facing the problem of how to invoke a web service 
 that requires as input a complex-within-complex XML document.  The 
 documentation does not cover this and, in my opinion, does not even 
 provide any hints as to what direction to head in to resolve this sort 
 of a problem.  I've been banging my head against this
 for quite some time, and more recently I involved my developer, Doug 
 James, who quickly came to share my cephalgia.
 
 Fortunately, with a couple of helpful pointers from Tom Jordahl (the 
 guy at Macromedia who, it seems, developed the web services piece of 
 CFMX), Doug finally figured out last week how to represent a 
 complex-within-complex XML document in CF structure form.  Doug is in 
 the process of touching up his work and will be posting a
 how to soon on cf-talk and on the support forum, and perhaps the 
 LiveDocs as well.  If you can't wait until Doug posts, you're welcome 
 to contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED], but he may or may not be able to 
 respond depending on how tied up he is at the time.
 
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RE: WDDX Status?

2005-03-14 Thread Dave Watts
 Does anybody know if the WDDX implementation in CF 7 is 
 actually updated from previous versions?  Is there any work 
 on the project?

I would be surprised if there have been any recent changes to it, or if
there ever will be. What's to change, after all? You can still use WDDX to
describe generic datatypes.

 More to the point will the current release (now well over 5 
 year old) still work in modern Java/JavaScript implementations?

The JavaScript stuff should continue to work fine. It's pretty simple
JavaScript.

 Any suggestions?
 
 I've looked at SOAP as well, but as you need to define all 
 the elements anyway it would probably be easier to stick with 
 what we have.

SOAP is a transport protocol which is only useful in the context of web
services. Why not just write your own schema? It's not that difficult to do
this. I don't see much reason to bother with WDDX if you have a more
domain-specific way to talk about your data.

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Structuring Shared Resources for Related Web Sites on Same Server

2005-03-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
I am planning on rebuilding two web sites that exist on the same server.
A few sections of each site will share related information.

Given that, are there any suggestions as to how I can structure my site
so that shared resources (udfs, cfcs, cust tags, etc) are visible to
each site yet not really tied to a particular site?

Also, I am using CF Standard, with a slim chance of upgrading to CF
Enterprise.

This is what I was thinking:

D:\Inetpub\App1
D:\Inetpub\App1\Extensions\
D:\Inetpub\App1\Extensions\Components
D:\Inetpub\App1\Extensions\CustTags
D:\Inetpub\App1\Extensions\Includes

D:\Inetpub\App2
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\Components
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\CustTags
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\Includes

D:\Inetpub\Shared
D:\Inetpub\Shared\Images
D:\Inetpub\Shared\Extensions\
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\Components
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\CustTags
D:\Inetpub\App2\Extensions\Includes

Once I had a structure like this, I would create the appropriate IIS
virtuals and CF mappings.

Any suggestions for a better way?

Thanks
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Dynamic Linking to Mapquest?

2005-03-14 Thread Claremont, Timothy
I searched the MM exchange, but the tags that I found don't seem to work
anymore due to updates in the mappers sites.

Anyone have a tag or link to a function where I can pass the address and
get a map?

Mapquest or Yahoo maps or google maps, etc...
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getting remote data

2005-03-14 Thread Stephens, Larry V
To date my CF apps have been on a server on our campus network. That makes it 
simple to get to the data with MS Access.

I'm working on a couple of apps that will be hosted on a commercial server so 
I'll be ftping to it. I've split my data into two databases - one that will not 
be written to (but read) by users that we can change by putting a new database 
up on the site. The response data from the users goes into a separate database 
that will accumulate data over years. Before I come up with a solution 
somewhere between elegant and klunky to get this data - what do you do? (I've 
thought of ftping the entire database down but see some problems with that, 
especially as it ages and gets bigger.)




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Re: WDDX Status?

2005-03-14 Thread Jim Davis
SOAP is a transport protocol which is only useful in the context of web
services. Why not just write your own schema? It's not that difficult to do
this. I don't see much reason to bother with WDDX if you have a more
domain-specific way to talk about your data.

Right now it's purely business-BS.  We're under some severe time restrictions.

The diaclect I've come up with isn't so very insanely different than WDDX, 
really - it simply describes a header and body where the body may contain one 
or more recordsets.  Record sets are defined generically, not domain 
specifically.

I've built all of the required JavaScript code for this - but we've recently 
discovered that our off-shore contractor (who's left suddenly) did not create 
generic java objects for the dialect - instead every instance of its use was 
essentially one-off, non-portable code.

Since he only did a little work on it, and we've got much, much more to go I 
was considering a change to allow for faster development (I assume having the 
WDDX java object could speed things up at this stage).

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RE: FCKeditor - Dynamic Browse and Upload Directory

2005-03-14 Thread Burns, John D
I customized the CF connector to allow this.  Basically there are a few
variables that are set that get used in the actual read/write calls that
are necessary for the function to work.  The majority of that connector
is just figure out what the path should be based on the current tag
location, etc.  I took all of that out and just set those variables
equal to an application or session variable which was a path I knew
existed and that I wanted the files written to.  Then you can change the
path more easily from within your own application.  If people have
questions let me know and I can give specifics.  Basically, just look at
the CFFILE calls and see the variables that will be needed and write it
so that you can set those from within your application. 


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-Original Message-
From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: FCKeditor - Dynamic Browse and Upload Directory

Anyone have a solution for setting the image browse and upload path in
FCKeditor (version 2 with the default CF connector)?  I'd like to share
the editor among several sites.

I've searched the FCKeditor forum, as well as this list, but haven't
seen a solution.

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Re: FCKeditor - Dynamic Browse and Upload Directory

2005-03-14 Thread Pete Jordan
Brad Roberts wrote:

 Anyone have a solution for setting the image browse and upload path
 in FCKeditor (version 2 with the default CF connector)?  I'd like to
 share the editor among several sites.

I'm actually (right now) in the middle of writing our own connector to 
cope with the virtual image directories we use for cached on-the-fly 
scaling and mangling of images, but the following should work fine with 
the standard connector unhacked.

You don't say if you're on a Windows or *ix server, but the basic 
solution we use here under Linux/Apache is to symlink the connector to 
somewhere within the vhost's directory tree (the top level image 
selection directory is a good place). If that's not possible on your 
platform, you can always actually copy the connector.

You'll need, of course, to put the fckeditor files themselves in a 
shared location and update the js config to reflect the new (symlinked) 
location of the connector.

FCKConfig.ImageBrowserURL = FCKConfig.BasePath + 
'filemanager/browser/default/browser.cfm?Type=ImageConnector=/images/connector.cfm';
 


for example.

This is all necessary because of ColdFusion's continuing bizarre failure 
to let an app know what the vhost's base directory actually is; there's 
no way to find out from a file that isn't (as far as ColdFusion is 
concerned) physically in that directory tree. Exposure of 
CGI.DOCUMENT_ROOT (if available) would make life *much* easier... There 
are other ways of doing this, of course: say, a database lookup on 
CGI.SERVER_NAME or just an application variable, but these would require 
changes to the default connector.

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Re: FCKeditor - Dynamic Browse and Upload Directory

2005-03-14 Thread Protoculture
I think the settings for this are in one of the *.js files.

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LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Daniel Kessler
My boss asked me to hook into our ldap system for password validation 
and I'm looking for any heads-up or advice that I could get.  Do 
people use cfLDAP for this?  If I have an app and I just want a few 
people to have access to it, do I use a DB to store access groups and 
names of people and use LDAP to verify the passwords?
How would that normally work?

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RE: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Ian Skinner
KNOW YOUR LDAP CONFIGURATION.

The ldap tag is pretty straight forward to use, if you know how your ldap has 
been configured.

We currently use ours to control access based on NT security groups, stored in 
our ldap data.  We currently do not do password verification with ldap, we do 
that directly against NT the NT security CFC from one can get from Macromedia's 
website.


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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LDAP

My boss asked me to hook into our ldap system for password validation
and I'm looking for any heads-up or advice that I could get.  Do
people use cfLDAP for this?  If I have an app and I just want a few
people to have access to it, do I use a DB to store access groups and
names of people and use LDAP to verify the passwords?
How would that normally work?

thanks.

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University of Maryland
Suite 2387 Valley Drive
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RE: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
What brand of LDAP server are you planning on using?  If it's Windows
Active Directory, there are some things to know about.

I use IIS/browser authentication for our intranet, but I use CFLDAP to
connect to Active Directory to get group membership for each user.  I
also pull mailbox-related information for Exchange mailbox size
reporting.

I'm planning on rewriting my intranet so that I can use an html form for
username/password to make it a bit more portable on PDAs and other
mobile devices.

If you have an LDAP server, use it rather than creating a DB to hold
security information.  You can add people to group, add attributes, etc.
LDAP is mainly geared for user-type storage so there is little reason to
rebuild if LDAP will support your requirements.

If you plan on selling this system, then a DB would be a bit more
portable than LDAP.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LDAP

My boss asked me to hook into our ldap system for password validation
and I'm looking for any heads-up or advice that I could get.  Do people
use cfLDAP for this?  If I have an app and I just want a few people to
have access to it, do I use a DB to store access groups and names of
people and use LDAP to verify the passwords?
How would that normally work?

thanks.

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Anyone creating CF7 flashpaper reports outside of report builder?

2005-03-14 Thread Don Smith
I don't know why I thought that the coldfusion reports were being stored
in an xml and xslt file- apparently I'm nuts.  I tested out report
builder and the report metadata is stored in the.cfr file which is
pretty much encrypted and not easily database-enabled.  You want to
build a new report?  Fire up the client server app.  I have a data
structure for our reports already spec'd out and I wanted to take that
info and export it to flashpaper.  Is anyone doing this currently,
outside of Report Builder?

I think I'm missing something obvious...

Thanks,

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Re: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Douglas Knudsen
we use LDAP for authentication on our intranet apps.  We use a sun ONE
IIRC.  Its fairly easy to use cfldap tag for this.  Googling should
get you an example or three.  I suggest getting the ldap browser tool
from softerra, its free, and it simply rocks.

D


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:50:42 -0600, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What brand of LDAP server are you planning on using?  If it's Windows
 Active Directory, there are some things to know about.
 
 I use IIS/browser authentication for our intranet, but I use CFLDAP to
 connect to Active Directory to get group membership for each user.  I
 also pull mailbox-related information for Exchange mailbox size
 reporting.
 
 I'm planning on rewriting my intranet so that I can use an html form for
 username/password to make it a bit more portable on PDAs and other
 mobile devices.
 
 If you have an LDAP server, use it rather than creating a DB to hold
 security information.  You can add people to group, add attributes, etc.
 LDAP is mainly geared for user-type storage so there is little reason to
 rebuild if LDAP will support your requirements.
 
 If you plan on selling this system, then a DB would be a bit more
 portable than LDAP.
 
 M!ke
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: LDAP
 
 My boss asked me to hook into our ldap system for password validation
 and I'm looking for any heads-up or advice that I could get.  Do people
 use cfLDAP for this?  If I have an app and I just want a few people to
 have access to it, do I use a DB to store access groups and names of
 people and use LDAP to verify the passwords?
 How would that normally work?
 
 thanks.
 
 --
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 Department of Public and Community Health University of Maryland Suite
 2387 Valley Drive College Park, MD  20742-2611
 301-405-2545 Phone
 www.phi.umd.edu
 
 

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Re: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread daniel kessler
What brand of LDAP server are you planning on using?  If it's Windows
Active Directory, there are some things to know about.

I don't know which LDAP server it is because I didn't realize I needed to know, 
hmmm.  Time to ask.  But it's the University of Maryland so I guess it's 
something that scales well.

If you have an LDAP server, use it rather than creating a DB to hold
security information.  You can add people to group, add attributes, etc.
LDAP is mainly geared for user-type storage so there is little reason to
rebuild if LDAP will support your requirements.

I don't know much about LDAPs.  Are you saying that I can introduce my own 
group type and add existing people too it?  I only want these two people into 
the Admin parts of my app, so could I make a group called myApp_admin and add 
them to it without affecting their current setup?

and I'll look into the softerra tool, thanks.

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URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've been thinking of a new method of presenting dynamic content,
specifically the list archives. At the moment you get to a single post by
passing an ID on the url. Even if this is 'hidden' using SES Urls or the
like, your still passing something.
My idea is to use the application.cfc to 'catch' a specific type of 404
error and in place of an error, run a page. 

Take for example this url:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:38946
In its place I want to use this url:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm
When the onRequestStart or onRequest action is run, I'd like to change the
page requested from messages_4_38946.cfm to messages.cfm and turn the rest
of the url into the proper variables. Looks totally do-able and I'll be
playing with it tonight. The reason I'm mentioning it is to see if anyone
else has done this already, anyone finds this interesting and wants to try
it and anyone wants to comment on it. I think it's a nice usage of
application.cfc, but if others find it to be flawed, I'd like to hear it
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SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Steve Bryant
I have run across a problem for which I think a SQL solution should exist.

I essentially need to do a left-join on two columns.

I need to get every row from one table (say lessons) and any rows from 
another (say students) for which the LessonID columns of each table match AND 
where the StudentID of the students table matches a given value. I cannot 
find a way to get this result set and still have one and only one row for each 
record in the lessons table.

I would google for this, but I don't even know what to search for. Anyone have 
any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: Anyone creating CF7 flashpaper reports outside of report builder?

2005-03-14 Thread Rick Mason
Don,

The reports are stored in an XML file which was encrypted for your
protection:)!  Which at times makes debugging a bit more of a
challenge.


Rick Mason



On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:00:06 -0500, Don Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know why I thought that the coldfusion reports were being stored
 in an xml and xslt file- apparently I'm nuts.  I tested out report
 builder and the report metadata is stored in the.cfr file which is
 pretty much encrypted and not easily database-enabled.  You want to
 build a new report?  Fire up the client server app.  I have a data
 structure for our reports already spec'd out and I wanted to take that
 info and export it to flashpaper.  Is anyone doing this currently,
 outside of Report Builder?
 
 I think I'm missing something obvious...
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Burns, John D
I did this at a company I worked for in order to catch error pages.
What we did was grab the path after the domain and run that through our
search tool automatically.  Our search tool kept track of common
searches and especially ones that returned zero results, so we had a
table where we could set up common searches and specify where to direct
them to.  We ended up using all of that in combination with
advertising urls (much like www.dell.com/tv ) but we had hundreds of
different ads going out to different magazines and management wanted to
track the response for each ad.  So, we gave them the ability to create
these search urls on their own and when people came to that url, it
would run the 404 page which would in turn run the search for that term
and jump them to the appropriate page.  It was all pretty slick and was
transparent to the user. The only thing that sucked was any time you ran
a log analyzer you had a ton of 404 errors which looked bad, but that
wasn't a problem unless we showed those reports to management and then
that was always a red flag to them.  Once we explained, that seemed to
help though.

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-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: URL masking and application.cfc

I've been thinking of a new method of presenting dynamic content,
specifically the list archives. At the moment you get to a single post
by passing an ID on the url. Even if this is 'hidden' using SES Urls or
the like, your still passing something.
My idea is to use the application.cfc to 'catch' a specific type of 404
error and in place of an error, run a page. 

Take for example this url:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:38
946
In its place I want to use this url:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm
When the onRequestStart or onRequest action is run, I'd like to change
the page requested from messages_4_38946.cfm to messages.cfm and turn
the rest of the url into the proper variables. Looks totally do-able and
I'll be playing with it tonight. The reason I'm mentioning it is to see
if anyone else has done this already, anyone finds this interesting and
wants to try it and anyone wants to comment on it. I think it's a nice
usage of application.cfc, but if others find it to be flawed, I'd like
to hear it early on.





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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Burns, John D
Would this work or am I missing a piece of the puzzle?

Select *
From lessons
Left join lessons on lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
Where students.studentID = #studentID# 


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-Original Message-
From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL Join Challenge

I have run across a problem for which I think a SQL solution should
exist.

I essentially need to do a left-join on two columns.

I need to get every row from one table (say lessons) and any rows from
another (say students) for which the LessonID columns of each table
match AND where the StudentID of the students table matches a given
value. I cannot find a way to get this result set and still have one and
only one row for each record in the lessons table.

I would google for this, but I don't even know what to search for.
Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

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RE: CFMX 7 Cfgrid Flash vs Applet

2005-03-14 Thread Mike Nimer
There isn't a recommended number, There are a lot of variables so
publishing a recommendation is a little hard. It's pretty much up to you
on what you think is reasonable. With that said, what you are seeing
makes sense, we know that the flash components can't handle the amount
of data that the applets can. This is one reason we didn't get rid of
the applets (some people love to dump a lot of data into the grid). I
would try to keep the amount of data as low as possible, especially if
you have users with older and slower machines. 

Hth,
---nimer

-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 Cfgrid Flash vs Applet

Mike, just tried this this way:

cfquery name=test datasource=iislogs
select top 100 * from CFObjectiveLog
/cfquery

cfform format=Flash width=800 height=600 skin=haloBlue
cfformgroup type=Hbox width=600 height=500
cfgrid name=testGrid query=test width=1000
height=#test.recordcount*21# /
/cfformgroup
/cfform

That's COOL... but, doing this this way, if I get to around 500 records,
the thing bogs down and dies. Firefox actually asks permission to kill
the Flash scripts. Is there a recommended max recordcount for Flash
cfgrid counts?

Thanks,
Jared

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:40:30 -0500, Mike Nimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Place the grid inside a cfformgroup type=Hbox, and set the 
 height/width of the group to fit your layout, and the height/width of 
 the grid to match the size of the data.
 
 Hth,
 ---nimer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:51 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMX 7 Cfgrid Flash vs Applet
 
 I was excited to use the new flash format with the CFGRID tag. And 
 while it looks great for small recordsets with a low column count, it 
 is nowhere near as fast as the applet version and loads very slowly 
 when the columns are greater than 20 or so.  Has anyone had any 
 positive experiences with the grid? It looks awesome, just seems a bit
sluggish.
 Also, its sluggish when scrolling large recordsets (large actually 
 just being 300+ records).
 
 I'm also looking for way to enable horizontal scrolling with the flash

 cfgrid. Is this possible?
 
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RE: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Ian Skinner
I don't know much about LDAPs.  Are you saying that I can introduce my
own group type and add existing people too it?  I only want these two
people into the Admin parts of my app, so could I make a group called
myApp_admin and add them to it without affecting their current setup?

Exactly, that's pretty much the whole point of ldap.  You can create any kind 
of branches you like, and add new nodes all over the place.  That can be a bit 
of a problem, but it's in the management of the ldap data. 

We are finding that our manager(s) liked to create security groups in several 
different nodes.  It has been a bit interesting.

I second the softerra browswer, once I had that, it became much easier, then 
the old trial and error approach I was first using.

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-Original Message-
From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: LDAP

What brand of LDAP server are you planning on using?  If it's Windows
Active Directory, there are some things to know about.

I don't know which LDAP server it is because I didn't realize I needed to
know, hmmm.  Time to ask.  But it's the University of Maryland so I guess
it's something that scales well.

If you have an LDAP server, use it rather than creating a DB to hold
security information.  You can add people to group, add attributes, etc.
LDAP is mainly geared for user-type storage so there is little reason to
rebuild if LDAP will support your requirements.

I don't know much about LDAPs.  Are you saying that I can introduce my
own group type and add existing people too it?  I only want these two
people into the Admin parts of my app, so could I make a group called
myApp_admin and add them to it without affecting their current setup?

and I'll look into the softerra tool, thanks.



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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Steve Bryant
Nope. That returns only rows from lessons where either no matching row exists 
in the students table at all or where a matching row exists for that student. 
In other words, it eliminates any lessons for which there is a match in the 
students table, but not for the given student.

Steve

Would this work or am I missing a piece of the puzzle?

Select *
From lessons
   Left join lessons on lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
Where students.studentID = #studentID# 


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RE: Application.cfc - why? what's it for?

2005-03-14 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks.  I like the methods, just wasn't sure how I would deal with
redirection.  It sounds like the consensus is that it is very appropriate to
do a redirect from the Application.cfc

Thanks,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Jared Rypka-Hauer

Andy,

If I understand correctly, it's an either/or situation. There was a
similar conversation on CFCDev the other day, although it was mostly
centered on extending application.cfc, and the concensus was that they
should be used as intended, even if there were ways of doing
customized versions of them

The point with application.cfc is twofold, from my perspective... one
is to facilitate the new events-style method triggers
(onApplicationStart, onApplicationEnd, onSessionStart, onSessionEnd,
onRequest, onRequestStart, and onRequestEnd), and the other is based
on the first... facilitate a higher degree of standardized application
management. It makes for a cleaner system when the application is
managed by a subsystem that's very similar to the rest of the
implementation.

In this case, rather than storing an independed CFC in the application
scope, the application scope itself becomes a CFC... so method calls
change when dealing with application-scope CFCs... from
application.myCFC.methodCall() to application.methodCall(). It also
allows the application-scope CFC to maintain private data in it's
variables scope and public data in it's THIS scope...

There's also no convenient way to manage the onRequest, onRequestStart
and onRequestEnd events... any other way of dealing with them are
going to be messy and incomplete at best. And, since there IS no other
way to manage the on*End() for session and application,
application.cfc represents some functionality that we've simply never
been able to accomplish before, in any way.

I don't think it's too messy to have an
application.redirect(location,addToken) method... since that
method is based on getPageContext().forward(), it's just mirroring the
underlying Java to accomplish the same thing. I did a site that made
heavy use of cfscript to manipulate CFC instances, and I wrote a UDF
to provide exactly that call... worked perfectly, too.

To answer your question, where you have 2 files with the same stem and
different suffixes, the system has always resolved them in
alphabetical order... hence application.cfc would fire first. The real
question is whether or not they're both automatically utilized when
they both exist. Index.cfm will be chosen over index.html where they
both exist because cfm is earlier in the alphabet than html... since
index.cfm takes over, index.html never gets touched. But I don't know
if application.cfc will execute and the normal auto-include will
fire for application.cfm after that.

Laterz,
J


On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:38 -0600, Andy Ousterhout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim,
 I am just concerned that redirecting out of a CFC might create sloppy code.
 I would probably want to continue to use Application.cfm for the
redirecting
 or use an include at the top of every page.
 
 Can I use both Application.cfm and Application.cfc? If so, what order do
they
 get executed in?
 
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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Steve Bryant wrote:
 I have run across a problem for which I think a SQL solution should exist.
 
 I essentially need to do a left-join on two columns.
 
 I need to get every row from one table (say lessons) and any rows from 
 another (say students) for which the LessonID columns of each table match 
 AND where the StudentID of the students table matches a given value. I 
 cannot find a way to get this result set and still have one and only one row 
 for each record in the lessons table.

SELECT *
FROM lessons
   LEFT JOIN students ON lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
WHERE
   students.studentID = #studentID#
   OR students.studentID IS NULL

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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Russ
How about something like this?  Not sure if it does the join before or after
the where clause... 

Select * from lessons left join students on
lessons.lessonID=students.lessonID where students.studentID=#studentID# or
ISNULL students.studentID 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Join Challenge

Nope. That returns only rows from lessons where either no matching row
exists in the students table at all or where a matching row exists for that
student. In other words, it eliminates any lessons for which there is a
match in the students table, but not for the given student.

Steve

Would this work or am I missing a piece of the puzzle?

Select *
From lessons
   Left join lessons on lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
Where students.studentID = #studentID# 


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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Keith Gaughan
Steve Bryant wrote:

 Nope. That returns only rows from lessons where either no matching row
 exists in the students table at all or where a matching row exists for
 that student. In other words, it eliminates any lessons for which there
 is a match in the students table, but not for the given student.

Then...

LEFT JOIN lessions ON lessions.lessionId = students.lessonID
WHERE   students.studentId = #studentId#
 OR  students.studentId IS NULL

Is that what you mean?

K.

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Dealing with bounced email

2005-03-14 Thread E C list
I am working with an iMail mailing list for a
relatively large organization and need to work on a
way to deal with bounced mailing list messages.  When
the messages come back, they are delivered to the
mailing list owner's mailbox.  What I'd like to do is
download the mail messages with CFPOP, figure out the
email address that bounced and then mark it off in my
database as a bouncing address (The mailing list is
automatically synced up with a membership database). 

The problem I am having is that I am seeing alot of
different formats for bounced mail messages.  I could
just strip out any and all email addresses and mark
the ones that it finds in the database, but the
trouble is that often one of the addresses is the
sender's email address and I haven't figured out a
reliable way to exclude that address.

Can anyone make any suggestions on how this could be
done reliably?

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CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Jeff Small
Okay, so I've got a site on my localhost. I'm setting it up to use CFCs and 
I've got my CFC all created, and it's working locally perfectly.

The path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite

I have the CFC in the root of my site, and it's called, let's say, 
myCFC.cfc.

So in my page, I have the code that instantiates the object:

cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)

and it works perfectly, like I said. I also have an admin section and 
it's path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite\backend\ and my instantiation code 
works fine in there:

cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)

However, now that I move it over to the live site to test it, it's not 
working. I fixed it, by changing my instantiation code (in all my root cfm 
files) to:
cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, myCFC)

which now works...*except* for in the admin directory one directory 
lower. I haven't been able to get it to work any other way than just placing 
the CFC in that directory too. I know, I know...this is *stupid* and I'm not 
going to leave it for sure, but I'm trying to figure out how I make it work 
on the remote, live site just like it's working here, without having to 
change code whenever I move it.

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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread jjakim
I'm confused about what exactly you want
From your original email I get that you want 
1. All the rows from lessons
2. Any rows from students table that matches lessons on the lessonid
3. A where clause to narrow down the students who are listed.

However in your comment to John you said that you need all the students who 
have a s.lessonid=l.lessonid match listed.

 I'm not sure why you would need the AND statement.  According to your reply to 
John it sounds like you really don't need a where clause because all the 
students with a matching lessonid will already be listed. 


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CFMAIL Group example

2005-03-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Does anyone know of a quick example for using the group attribute of the CFMAIL 
tag?  Nothing fancy, just something that illustrates its use.

Thanks,

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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Steve Bryant
I expected that to work as well (in fact, I thought that I had used this 
approach successfully in the past). I tried it again this time, however, and it 
didn't work.

Some rows from lessons were missing.

Would it matter that while lessons has a primary key of LessonID, 
students has a joint primary key of LessonID and UserID? Or perhaps this 
is an oddity of SQL Server 2000?

Thanks,

Steve

 SELECT *
 FROM lessons
 LEFT JOIN students ON lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
 WHERE students.studentID = #studentID#
 OR students.studentID IS NULL
 
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RE: Dealing with bounced email

2005-03-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There are actually less than a dozen formats that account for over 90% of
the bounced mail you'll get. I've been planning an app to do exactly what
your requesting but never got around to it. I'd ask Howie Hamlin about it as
he's probably written or heard something that does this for iMS. 
If not, get a weeks worth of mail and look through it. You'll start seeing
patterns that can be written into a fast RegEx library using the return
header as a key to which regex to use. 

 I am working with an iMail mailing list for a
 relatively large organization and need to work on a
 way to deal with bounced mailing list messages.  When
 the messages come back, they are delivered to the
 mailing list owner's mailbox.  What I'd like to do is
 download the mail messages with CFPOP, figure out the
 email address that bounced and then mark it off in my
 database as a bouncing address (The mailing list is
 automatically synced up with a membership database).
 
 The problem I am having is that I am seeing alot of
 different formats for bounced mail messages.  I could
 just strip out any and all email addresses and mark
 the ones that it finds in the database, but the
 trouble is that often one of the addresses is the
 sender's email address and I haven't figured out a
 reliable way to exclude that address.
 
 Can anyone make any suggestions on how this could be
 done reliably?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 
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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Douglas Knudsen
paths to cfcs have to be absolute wite createObject()  A pita for site
portability, eh?  There are ways around this.  You could create a CF
mapping called com to C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\.   Then place your CFCs
in there in teh 'Java way'
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\domainname\app1\mycfc.cfc

Then all your CFC calls would be the same anywhere as com.domainname.app1.mycfc

I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
something like
cfset toolsobj =
CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.config.getAppRoot(),/,.)#.pathtocfcs.inmy.app)
/

Doug
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:36:03 -0500, Jeff Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, so I've got a site on my localhost. I'm setting it up to use CFCs and
 I've got my CFC all created, and it's working locally perfectly.
 
 The path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite
 
 I have the CFC in the root of my site, and it's called, let's say,
 myCFC.cfc.
 
 So in my page, I have the code that instantiates the object:
 
 cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)
 
 and it works perfectly, like I said. I also have an admin section and
 it's path is C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MySite\backend\ and my instantiation code
 works fine in there:
 
 cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, MySite.myCFC)
 
 However, now that I move it over to the live site to test it, it's not
 working. I fixed it, by changing my instantiation code (in all my root cfm
 files) to:
 cfset variables.myObject= createObject(component, myCFC)
 
 which now works...*except* for in the admin directory one directory
 lower. I haven't been able to get it to work any other way than just placing
 the CFC in that directory too. I know, I know...this is *stupid* and I'm not
 going to leave it for sure, but I'm trying to figure out how I make it work
 on the remote, live site just like it's working here, without having to
 change code whenever I move it.
 
 What do I need to do to get it to work right?
 
 

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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Burns, John D
Yeah, I'm confused too.  A better explanation would help if Jochem's
(and others') posts didn't solve it already. 


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Join Challenge

I'm confused about what exactly you want From your original email I get
that you want 1. All the rows from lessons 2. Any rows from students
table that matches lessons on the lessonid 3. A where clause to narrow
down the students who are listed.

However in your comment to John you said that you need all the students
who have a s.lessonid=l.lessonid match listed.

 I'm not sure why you would need the AND statement.  According to your
reply to John it sounds like you really don't need a where clause
because all the students with a matching lessonid will already be
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CFTREEITEM problem

2005-03-14 Thread Venable, John
Hello, I'm trying to use the CFTREE to populate another frame with data
based on the id of the node selected. Here is my code:

cftreeitem value=datefmt,RequestID
display=datefmt,timefmt
img=folder,document
imgopen=folder,document
href=,dsp_requestForm.cfm
target=main
query=inquiries
queryasroot=No
expand=Yes

The tree is basically the date, with inquiries below that with the time
as the label.

The problem I'm having is I cannot get the child nodes (the actual
inquiries) to link to the form. The folders which shouldn't have an ID
anyway are linked, but not the children. I know it's probably something
simple, can someone tell me what am I doing wrong?

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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Jeff Small
 paths to cfcs have to be absolute wite createObject()  A pita for site
 portability, eh?  There are ways around this.  You could create a CF
 mapping called com to C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\.   Then place your CFCs
 in there in teh 'Java way'
 C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\domainname\app1\mycfc.cfc

 Then all your CFC calls would be the same anywhere as 
 com.domainname.app1.mycfc

 I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
 something like
 cfset toolsobj =
 CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.config.getAppRoot(),/,.)#.pathtocfcs.inmy.app)
 /

 Doug

Okay...well...that kinda reeks.

I'm still a little confused, but I obviously have more to read, so rather 
than complain here, I'll quietly go read what I need to get it to work.

Jeff,
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activepdf and cf

2005-03-14 Thread jjakim
For those of you who use activepdf, a quick question.
According to the docs you can put an image into the setformfield tag
I tried their code, but no luck. Not only does the image not show up, but if I 
open the final pdf and click to view the fields- the field doesn't even 
transfer to it
Anyone do this at all?  

CFSET Lhead=Tlkt.SetFormFieldData(Lrhead,Letterhead2.jpg ,-995)
Thanks,
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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Kenney
Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:00:44 -0500, Jeff Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  paths to cfcs have to be absolute wite createObject()  A pita for site
  portability, eh?  There are ways around this.  You could create a CF
  mapping called com to C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\.   Then place your CFCs
  in there in teh 'Java way'
  C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\com\domainname\app1\mycfc.cfc
 
  Then all your CFC calls would be the same anywhere as
  com.domainname.app1.mycfc
 
  I sometimes set an application scoped var application.rootdir and use
  something like
  cfset toolsobj =
  CreateObject(Component,#Replace(application.config.getAppRoot(),/,.)#.pathtocfcs.inmy.app)
  /
 
  Doug
 
 Okay...well...that kinda reeks.
 
 I'm still a little confused, but I obviously have more to read, so rather
 than complain here, I'll quietly go read what I need to get it to work.
 
 Jeff,
 confused
 
 

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RE: Dealing with bounced email

2005-03-14 Thread E C list
Thanks Michael!  I'll do that. EC

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dealing with bounced email


There are actually less than a dozen formats that
account for over 90% of
the bounced mail you'll get. I've been planning an app
to do exactly what
your requesting but never got around to it. I'd ask
Howie Hamlin about it as
he's probably written or heard something that does
this for iMS. 
If not, get a weeks worth of mail and look through it.
You'll start seeing
patterns that can be written into a fast RegEx library
using the return
header as a key to which regex to use. 

 I am working with an iMail mailing list for a
 relatively large organization and need to work on a
 way to deal with bounced mailing list messages. 
When
 the messages come back, they are delivered to the
 mailing list owner's mailbox.  What I'd like to do
is
 download the mail messages with CFPOP, figure out
the
 email address that bounced and then mark it off in
my
 database as a bouncing address (The mailing list is
 automatically synced up with a membership database).
 
 The problem I am having is that I am seeing alot of
 different formats for bounced mail messages.  I
could
 just strip out any and all email addresses and mark
 the ones that it finds in the database, but the
 trouble is that often one of the addresses is the
 sender's email address and I haven't figured out a
 reliable way to exclude that address.
 
 Can anyone make any suggestions on how this could be
 done reliably?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 
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cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!

2005-03-14 Thread Cliff Meyers
Try this:

select
  count(*),
  jobPriority
from
  call
where
  logdatetime = @x + '00:00:00'
and
  logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'
group by
  jobPriority


-Cliff



Subject: cfchart and cfchartdata question. Kindly help!
From: cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:26:39 -0400
Thread:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messagesthreadid=38961forumid=4#198644

thanks Cliff for the reply. That did occur to me and its probably the only
way to do
it. However, I don't know how to build the select sql query. From what I
understand
when using the count() function, I can't any other column name in the select.

select count(*), jobPriority from call
where logdatetime = @x + '00:00:00' and logdatetime = @x + '23:59:59'

How do I get the query to return the count of jobs logged in a day and for
each job
return the jobPriority. Is there a way to do this?

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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Jeff Small
 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.

Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a 
mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer? 
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm 
wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because 
honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to 
work. 



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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Bosky, Dave
Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a single
location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to search
and replace you know exactly where to look. 

Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.

Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a 
mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer? 
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm 
wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because 
honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to 
work. 





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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Kenney
A single mapping should be a one time thing, so it *shouldn't* be a
big deal for them.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:19:28 -0500, Jeff Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
  hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
  path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
  to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
  names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.
 
 Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a
 mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer?
 This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm
 wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because
 honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to
 work.
 
 
 

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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Burns, John D
I don't think they should have a problem with it. It's a simple thing
for them to do and if they're offering CF hosting, that's a simple
support issue that doesn't open any vulnerabilities on their server so
it shouldn't be a problem. 


John Burns
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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use 
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic 
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier

 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the

 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.

Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for
a mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to
offer? 
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so
I'm wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain,
because honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just
want it to work. 





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RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Small
OT
And HTC is the largest telephone cooperative in the US.  Not just some
little local telco. :-)
/OT

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a single
location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to search
and replace you know exactly where to look. 

Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

 Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
 hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
 path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
 to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
 names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.

Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a 
mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer? 
This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm 
wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because 
honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to 
work. 







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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Kenney
The issue with dynamic paths is that you can't do any type-checking at
all in the cffunction, cfargument, and cfproperty tags. For me,
this is too important since it saves a lot of time debugging.  It also
makes the structure of component files clearer since I am always
having to use it. It may seem like more work, but it pays you back
later.


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Define in application.cfm file. You only have to look and change in a single
 location. If at some point the location changes you don't need to search
 and replace you know exactly where to look.
 
 Also what's up with little local telco's? I think they rule!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...
 
  Just create the mapping on both your local and live sites. Use
  hardcoded fully qualified paths if you can... try to avoid dynamic
  path names when refering to the names of CFCs.  It makes things easier
  to understand when you look at it later, and if you have to change the
  names at some point the search and replace should be pretty simple.
 
 Yeah, I've got nothing dynamic. So you're saying I should ask my ISP for a
 mapping? Think they'll do that? Is that a normal thing for ISPs to offer?
 This is just a little local telco, and it's a little pro bono site, so I'm
 wondering if asking for a mapping on their end would be a pain, because
 honestly, at this point, I don't care if it's a pain, I just want it to
 work.
 
 

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RE: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
+1 on the softerra ldap browser tool. 

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we use LDAP for authentication on our intranet apps.  We use a sun ONE
IIRC.  Its fairly easy to use cfldap tag for this.  Googling should get
you an example or three.  I suggest getting the ldap browser tool from
softerra, its free, and it simply rocks.

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RE: Dealing with bounced email

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Vernon
The way I do it is to use my CFX_POP3 Pro tag rather than the built in CFPOP
tag because it's got bayesian filtering capabilities built in so I train
them  to recognise bounces as opposed to spam and score them appropriately.

When I process the mailbox for bounces, I don't have to do half as much work
in terms of determining whether or not the mail is a bounce message and
processing the e-mail addresses then becomes far easier as to concur with
Michael, the formats for bounce messages are pretty limited.

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E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Will Tomlinson
Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT 
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on the 
Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and myself 
did not want to force them to register. 

Some argue that they have to enter all that info anyway when actually making 
the purchase so what's the big deal? Also, that registration info comes in 
handy in many different ways. 

What's everyone's opinion on the matter?

Thanks,
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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Gaulin, Mark
I think maybe you want this...

Select *
From lessons
Left join lessons on 
(lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
 AND students.studentID = #studentID#)

Putting the AND in the join clause (and not in the WHERE clause) will give 
different results.

Mark

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Join Challenge


Nope. That returns only rows from lessons where either no matching row exists 
in the students table at all or where a matching row exists for that student. 
In other words, it eliminates any lessons for which there is a match in the 
students table, but not for the given student.

Steve

Would this work or am I missing a piece of the puzzle?

Select *
From lessons
   Left join lessons on lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
Where students.studentID = #studentID# 


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RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Small
Make the registration after everything else and optional.  Since you already
have the info, it's only an extra few keystrokes.

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on
the Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and
myself did not want to force them to register. 

Some argue that they have to enter all that info anyway when actually making
the purchase so what's the big deal? Also, that registration info comes in
handy in many different ways. 

What's everyone's opinion on the matter?

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RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Connie DeCinko
Ask for the info, just don't tell them they are registering!
 

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on
the Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and
myself did not want to force them to register. 

Some argue that they have to enter all that info anyway when actually making
the purchase so what's the big deal? Also, that registration info comes in
handy in many different ways. 

What's everyone's opinion on the matter?

Thanks,
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Re: CFCs and paths...I'm having a couple of problems...

2005-03-14 Thread Jeff Small
 OT
 And HTC is the largest telephone cooperative in the US.  Not just some
 little local telco. :-)
 /OT

 - Matt Small

Well, you-know-who is lurking, so I figured I'd take a couple digs...make 
sure he's paying attention...heh.

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Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Teens (and alot of online shoppers) do not like you to store anything about 
them (even though common sense dictates they'll have to always repeat the 
reg info for every purchaseand you could store it without their 
knowledge anyway).

So if you think you'll cheese off your main market...I'd vote to give them 
the option (as most sites big sites do). IMHO

Cheers

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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
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RE: LDAP

2005-03-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
It *shouldn't* matter what brand you use, but since they may have their
own implementations, it's helpful to know.

Directories are organized into containers named Organizational Units
which are basically sub-directories similar to a file system.  The
admins can create an OU just for you, give you access and then you can
create whatever objects they allow you to create in that OU.

I have an OU just for my intranet site's security groups.  I do use
other domain-related groups for intranet permissions, but if there is a
group that doesn't related to a network share or existing domain group,
I create my own, specialized intranet security group.

Yes, you can create a group and add your web site admins.  Then, on each
admin page, check to see if the current user is a member of that group.
In fact, I store all groups, of which the user is a member, in the
session scope.  Then, I have a simple function that checks to see if the
user is related to that group.  This prevents me from needing an LDAP
call on each page that is secured.

Another nice feature of LDAP is you can add your own attributes to
directory objects.  You can actually treat the LDAP server as a database
of sorts.  For example, you can store the last time someone accessed
your web site in their LDAP user object attributes.  Basically, if it
has to do with a user account or group, you can store it right in the
LDAP directory and not have to create a database object to store the
same information.

Feel free to ask any LDAP questions you may have.  I wouldn't call
myself an expert, but I have a few years of CF - Active Directory
experience.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: LDAP

What brand of LDAP server are you planning on using?  If it's Windows 
Active Directory, there are some things to know about.

I don't know which LDAP server it is because I didn't realize I needed
to know, hmmm.  Time to ask.  But it's the University of Maryland so I
guess it's something that scales well.

If you have an LDAP server, use it rather than creating a DB to hold 
security information.  You can add people to group, add attributes,
etc.
LDAP is mainly geared for user-type storage so there is little reason 
to rebuild if LDAP will support your requirements.

I don't know much about LDAPs.  Are you saying that I can introduce my
own group type and add existing people too it?  I only want these two
people into the Admin parts of my app, so could I make a group called
myApp_admin and add them to it without affecting their current setup?

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Re: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Steve Bryant
That's it!

I didn't even realize that you could use an AND in a join clause like that 
(embarrased that I didn't even think to try it).

Sorry to everyone if my explanation of the desired result was confusing. Thanks 
to all for the help!

Steve

 Select *
 From lessons
   Left join lessons on 
   (lessons.lessonID = students.lessonID
AND students.studentID = #studentID#)
 
 Putting the AND in the join clause (and not in the WHERE clause) will 
 give different results.
 
   Mark

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sot: intranets.com -anyone use them?

2005-03-14 Thread Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
Does anyone use/integrate with intranets.com?  Looks like a great hosted
service, but their apparent lack of APIs means I can't do too much
customization (post items from my site, to their task list, etc).
 
Just curious...
 
Any other hosted intranet solutions you'd recommend for low end crm,
task mgt, shared calendar, and multi-tiered access?
 
Thanks
-Dov 

 
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So does CF 7 Suck, Or Crystaltech?

2005-03-14 Thread Matt Robertson
I've been following the Crystaltech session issue with moderate
interest.  I say moderate because its not really my problem yet, as I
and my clients are running either CF 6.1 or CF 5.

But talking to another client today, looks like I'll be setting up a
server for him sooner rather than later, so the issue is coming into
sharper focus for me.  Especially since his dedicated servers are
housed by the above-mentioned host.

Crystaltech says the problem -- a disastrous one from the sound of it
-- is all about Macromedia screwing up CF 7 somehow.

Others are saying its not MM, or more accurately others are saying
that CF 7 has been working for them just dandy for ages.

As far as I can tell MM has kept a fairly low profile on this. 
Possibly to avoid giving a partner a black eye if it speaks up?

I've never seen the problem but if something new has been injected
into CF, what is the solution to keeping it stable?  As in don't ever
do X.  Or has the bugfinding and fixing not gotten far enough yet to
know?


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RE: SQL Join Challenge

2005-03-14 Thread Dawson, Michael
You can also use inequality operators in a join as well.  I found a very
good use for this when I was creating an IP Telephony billing app for
our campus.

Table1 INNER JOIN Table2 ON (Table1.pk = Table2.fk AND Table1.date =
Table2.billingDate)

(This is kind of a nonsense query, but you get the gist...)

M!ke 

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL Join Challenge

That's it!

I didn't even realize that you could use an AND in a join clause like
that (embarrased that I didn't even think to try it).

Sorry to everyone if my explanation of the desired result was confusing.
Thanks to all for the help!

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RE: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Paul
You could take a paypal approach and ask after the checkout is complete do
you want to save this information so you won't have to enter it again?  I
know it isn't foolproof but I tend to gravitate to the way amazon.com does
ecommerce.  They've spent millions doing research on it - it can't be all
bad...

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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

Ok guys, I just read in my Internet Retailer about how teen shoppers do NOT
want to register before shopping online. This plays right into my plan on
the Volleyball site as teen shoppers *are* my target audience. My client and
myself did not want to force them to register. 

Some argue that they have to enter all that info anyway when actually making
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Re: URL masking and application.cfc

2005-03-14 Thread Barney Boisvert
Are you sure Application.cfc will fire for that?  Because
Application.cfm doesn't.

cheers,
barneyb

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:17:27 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been thinking of a new method of presenting dynamic content,
 specifically the list archives. At the moment you get to a single post by
 passing an ID on the url. Even if this is 'hidden' using SES Urls or the
 like, your still passing something.
 My idea is to use the application.cfc to 'catch' a specific type of 404
 error and in place of an error, run a page.
 
 Take for example this url:
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:38946
 In its place I want to use this url:
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages_4_38946.cfm
 When the onRequestStart or onRequest action is run, I'd like to change the
 page requested from messages_4_38946.cfm to messages.cfm and turn the rest
 of the url into the proper variables. Looks totally do-able and I'll be
 playing with it tonight. The reason I'm mentioning it is to see if anyone
 else has done this already, anyone finds this interesting and wants to try
 it and anyone wants to comment on it. I think it's a nice usage of
 application.cfc, but if others find it to be flawed, I'd like to hear it
 early on.
 

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Re: E-commerce - Make them register or don't make them register

2005-03-14 Thread Matt Robertson
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:53:28 -0700, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You could take a paypal approach and ask after the checkout is complete do
 you want to save this information so you won't have to enter it again?  

I do something similar to that.  The checkout form is a simple
1-screener with a checkbox at the bottom of the form.  It says

Remember Me 
so this form will be filled out next time (except for credit card info).

short and sweet and all they have to do is check the box.  I use
cookies to store their form data if they check this box, and populate
the form with the data if it exists on form entry.  Of course you
could do the same job with a db checking for a match with their
cookie.cfid and cookie.cftoken.

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