Re: Ajax
If you'd like to know a bit more about Neuromancer (which uses ajax ), download the libraries, or view the documentation you can check it out on my recent blog post (all the links are in there). http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=58682C84-10AD-6BB7-86B2ED2A27D78515 there is also a little movie on there that shows a bit how it works (it kind of suck though because I was trying to talk really fast to save bandwidth :-/ ) Hey MM, can I have a breeze account? On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:58:27 -0500, Rick Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I think what you're doing would be defined as Ajax - the term is fairly new. Definitely interested in the offer of demos. Also the link posted was to the docs, was there a link to the code on that site that I missed? Rick Mason On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:51:44 -0800, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Neuromancer is open source, and it is quite a bit more powerful than ajax I think especially with coldfusion - but ajax is by google so ... :-/ I had the original computer it was on crash and burn (windows) so I am getting it setup in it's new home (linux :-D). I lost the chat demo in the crash - if anyone has a copy laying around please send it to me. You can use Neruomancer just like ajax, and it can do more too (unmarshal a cfc into a javascript object and is able to pass cf structs to and from js via web services). It works on cfmx and blue dragon (and theoretically with .net and java axis) Anyway... yadda yadda... I'll plan on doing a long blog on its usage and features soon, but with ajax on the scene, people will probably lean towards that because it's from google. (cept for the commercial sites that are already using Neuromancer) Neuromancer was/is written by me, Dick Applebaum, and Barney Boisvert If you have any questions about it feel free to email me Cheers, Rob On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:57:28 -0800, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The correct URL for neuromancer is: http://www.robrohan.com/projects/neuromancer/index.cfm I believe it is open source, but you'd need to get confirmation from Rob on that. Spike Rick Mason wrote: Michael, I think the idea of a new list on Ajax is a good one. I've become quite interested in it lately, especially after seeing what people are doing with Google maps. http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/gmap2_flash.html I've seen quite a few mentions of Neuromancer. Is Neuromancer open source? I don't see it on CFOpen and unfortunately the link you provided doesn't work. Is there an alternative place it can be downloaded? I'd like to experiment with CF and Ajax but don't want to reinvent the wheel if an API for CF'ers has already been written. Rick Mason On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:38:35 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the current interest in Ajax (Asynchronous Javascript + XML), I've decided to open up a new list dedicated to it. This list should allow those interested in the technology to discuss it outside of ColdFusion or any specific platform. The list can be found here: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/47 and a good article on the technology can be found here: http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php some other links of interest on Ajax: http://www.rohanclan.com/products/neuromancer/index.cfm http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/399.cfm http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:38991 http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=101ABA29-B8B9-B9A5-875B12724E6716C8 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199294 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
Rob, Both demos fail, or are you working on it? The store seems bankrupt, and the OS seems to fail on global activeItem variables. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199295 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ajax
Hum... works for me. What browser are you using? If you've looked at the demos before you may want to dump your cache. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:27:20 +0100, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, Both demos fail, or are you working on it? The store seems bankrupt, and the OS seems to fail on global activeItem variables. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199296 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
As a followup: Regarding Ajax, David Mendels of Macromedia stated the following, which I totally agree with: It is really, really, really hard to build something like Gmail and Google Maps, said David Mendels, general manager of platform products for Macromedia. Google hired rocket scientists--they hired Adam Bosworth, who invented DHTML when he was at Microsoft. Most companies can't go and repeat what Google has done. I can only say, don't be fooled when making promises to your boss. Doing Ajax on web application area is experts work. Doing Ajax on smaller parts anyone can do. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199297 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfecipse: ctrl+i triggers em/em
I suggest you change your keyboard shortcut to Ctrl+ space.. more intuitive if you are using cfe a lot :) On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:04:49 -0800, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah in the newer versions it's ctrl+shift+i (and it should stay that way). It changed because ctrl+i is the homesite keystroke for em (as you now know) and it was messing up quite a few converts it seems If you want to change it you can go to Window Preferences Keys (which is sounds like you did but you just removed it not changed it) Cheers, Rob On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:08:43 -0500, Qasim Rasheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using cfeclipse version 1.1.18.9, and it works fine at my end. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:51:20 -0500, K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: still not working for me.. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199298 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ajax
I can only say, don't be fooled when making promises to your boss. Doing Ajax on web application area is experts work. Doing Ajax on smaller parts anyone can do. Then if you break large web applications into smaller parts than anyone can do it. I am sorry, but your comment seems like you are saying people are stupid, and I don't think thats a very nice (or correct) thing to say. I could just be reading that wrong though. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199299 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
Rob, What I meant is that there is still a lot of ignorance regarding complex web interfaces. People make the mistake if they see Ajax as just do it. It involves much more because the largest browser today, does not function according to standards, but also requires attention on several points when you work with large interfaces. It also requires you to think about ui architecture, working with layers, how to communicatie between them, what functions do work on elements and what not, what are the differences between browsers, rendering, support. What browser support method a, method b etc.. When you are working with a small part, you don't have to really think this all through. It is just a part on the webpage which is Ajax enabled. When you look at for example Gmail, the entire application runs on an Ajax layer. Then it gets seriously complex, and then you really need experts like Google has. I hope a lot of people will do Ajax, I think it is an amazing new step in the web. But I only warn people, not too make promises too quickly, because many people underestimate the complexity. Was that more subtile? :P Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 18 maart 2005 11:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax I can only say, don't be fooled when making promises to your boss. Doing Ajax on web application area is experts work. Doing Ajax on smaller parts anyone can do. Then if you break large web applications into smaller parts than anyone can do it. I am sorry, but your comment seems like you are saying people are stupid, and I don't think thats a very nice (or correct) thing to say. I could just be reading that wrong though. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199300 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
AHP has some VPS server deals for CF-Talk readers: http://www.fusionauthority.com/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4381 They actually provide the bandwidth for House of Fusion/Fusion Authority and some of my new stuff is going up on one of their VPS servers. Mike, please move this to cf-community as it is not a technical-related thread. It's just beating up on hostmysite and CT. :) Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199301 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, please move this to cf-community as it is not a technical-related thread. It's just beating up on hostmysite and CT. :) Will LOL, smartass! Mike will create a banned list just for you Will! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199302 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfecipse: ctrl+i triggers em/em
Speaking of homesite converts... When I installed CFE, my ctrl+shift+I shortcuts in all other programs (HS+, photoshop) quit working altogether. Same with ctrl+shift+A. Is there a possible correlation or is there no way CFE could hijack the system? Any way to tell where these keys went? -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfecipse: ctrl+i triggers em/em Yeah in the newer versions it's ctrl+shift+i (and it should stay that way). It changed because ctrl+i is the homesite keystroke for em (as you now know) and it was messing up quite a few converts it seems If you want to change it you can go to Window Preferences Keys (which is sounds like you did but you just removed it not changed it) Cheers, Rob On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:08:43 -0500, Qasim Rasheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using cfeclipse version 1.1.18.9, and it works fine at my end. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:51:20 -0500, K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: still not working for me.. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199303 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
getting the page content
I need to retrieve the current page content ( ie the html ) for search and replacing functions how can I grab this with cf? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199304 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ideas - Your Help Needed
Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199305 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: getting the page content
Wrap it in cfsavecontent and then it's available to you in a variable. You could also use cfhttp to get the generated content. Ade -Original Message- From: Protoculture [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 11:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: getting the page content I need to retrieve the current page content ( ie the html ) for search and replacing functions how can I grab this with cf? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199306 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed
If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199307 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199308 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ajax
I hope a lot of people will do Ajax, I think it is an amazing new step in the web. But I only warn people, not too make promises too quickly, because many people underestimate the complexity. New step? This stuff's been around for a long time. Google just decided to go nuts with it. The technology's not new, but building applications of this scale with it is. http://news.com.com/Will+AJAX+help+Google+clean+up/2100-1032_3-5621010.html ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199309 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFFILE Coldfusion code
Hi, I am trying to dynamically create .cfm pages. I am using the CFFILE 'Write' attribute but I am having problems when trying to write Coldfusion code out to the file, it apears that the Coldfusion code is evaluated before the write takes place and I get an error. How can I write out Coldfusion code to a text file without getting these errors? Many thanks, ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199310 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: LDAP and Active Directory and getting the objectGUID
That is a bug that has yet to be corrected by Macromedia. You could create a COM object that uses ADSI to pull that value into a meaningful state. M!ke -Original Message- From: Charles Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: LDAP and Active Directory and getting the objectGUID Hello, Does anyone have an example on how to translate the attribute objectGUID to a legible string? If I look at it in ADSI edit, it's in hex format, but if I use coldfusion is garbage. Thanks, - Charles ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199311 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
I've shown them the audit logs for each bit, but I will arrange to go through the process step-by-step. That's a good idea. Thanks -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199312 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199313 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SQL licensing question
Depending on the time frame for delivering your app and the amount of traffic/load, you can license MS SQL Server 2005 Express for free. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Scott Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL licensing question Thanks Dave, I'll pass that along. Ironically they were told the opposite by whoever answered the phone at MS ;) -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL licensing question What is the general practice in terms of licensing SQL server for use in a web app? Per-processor licensing. Is it the standard or the only option to go with the processor license, or can you use an existing X client seat license and CF is considered 1 seat or user of the X' available? Each end-user is considered one seat. Read about multiplex licensing at the URL below. CF falls into this category. Is there any performance difference in the SQL Server itself if its licensed for processor or per client seat? No. All this, and much more, is available here: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed
rehearse the step-by-step process you are going to do for the client, without the client present. this will be a good double check and will either get you well prepared or uncover the problem ;-) On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:07:30 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFXM 6.1/7 on Windows Serer 2003
Has anyone had difficulties running CFXM 6.1 or 7 on Windows Server 2003? I am have been trying to set up CFMX 7 on a Windows 2003 Server for several weeks now. Most of the time it installs just fine. The problem is keeping CF running. Whether I choose multi-server or not, CF crashes frequently. In Event Viewer, I see entries like this: Faulting application jrun.exe, version 4.0.3.19147, faulting module jvm.dll, version 1.4.2.50, fault address 0x00044a07. I have searched the forums, Google, etc. and while there seem to be a fair amount of people having similar issues with 6.1 or 7, there doesn't seem to be a solution. Anyone have any ideas? -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199316 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: spelling suggestion
Soundex. cf_assumption type=using verity You will have to hunt some, google some, and generally work to find it but there is a way you can use soundex within Verity. This gives you 'sounds like' searching. /cf_assumption I structured our search so it looks for the entered term and if nothing is returned then it searches using Soundex and it almost always returns something. It is not as accurate as google but works for us. Doug James Hollings Cancer Center Umer Farooq wrote: Hi, for a person like me.. who can't spell to save his life.. whats the best way to enhance a search to have it search by like terms.. what would you use.. to do this.. a dictionary to look up the right spelling.. or would you store common misspelling in a DB field.. etc.. Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. Regards, ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199317 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Strange error kills sessions
Thanks James ... that's a very strange issue. I'll give that a shot and keep an eye on it ... Do you (or anyone else) know why or if it would have affected the sessions like it seems to have? I'm just curious about the underlying relation. Thanks again! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199318 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFXM 6.1/7 on Windows Serer 2003
I have run CFMX 6.1 on W2k3 standard and web editions for about 18 months. For CFMX 7 I have run it for a reasonable period on W2k3 web server edition and I have had no problems. Everyone of the servers I have helped get things running on W2k3 in the past that other people own has been down to spurious Windows services that are not required and are for whatever reason clashing with the JVM. There are many MS best practice docs regarding securing and trimming out the services that you don't need when you are running a web-server. I suggest that you use those docs and turn off everything you don't need and even some of the stuff that you do but isn't necessary for CFMX. Then turn on the services one by one that you do need and see how that affects your stability. Paul ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199319 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFXM 6.1/7 on Windows Serer 2003
Paul, Thanx. I am running Web Edition. Any chance you know where to find some of those documents you referred to? On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:41:16 -, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run CFMX 6.1 on W2k3 standard and web editions for about 18 months. For CFMX 7 I have run it for a reasonable period on W2k3 web server edition and I have had no problems. Everyone of the servers I have helped get things running on W2k3 in the past that other people own has been down to spurious Windows services that are not required and are for whatever reason clashing with the JVM. There are many MS best practice docs regarding securing and trimming out the services that you don't need when you are running a web-server. I suggest that you use those docs and turn off everything you don't need and even some of the stuff that you do but isn't necessary for CFMX. Then turn on the services one by one that you do need and see how that affects your stability. Paul -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199320 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Dreamweaver CFMX7 extensions, CFC filtering useless?
I got a bit upset this morning when trying to use the DMWX CFMX7 extensions. What was especially useful was being able to filter the CFC components for a specific site only. But when I tried to do this, it didn't work. Further digging revealed that if you have your Websites ina virtual directory (and really, who the heck doesn't partition their work in this way?) the CFC filtering doesn't work. .what's the point of that? Using CFCs is great, and it's the way to go. Why doesn't the official sanctioned IDE for Macromedia development support this better? Why do I have to be looking at alternatives like CFEClipse when a sizeable investment was already made in DWMX? Is there a way around this CFC filtering issue? Because listing all the CFCs on the server when I'm dealing with just one site made this feature unusable before. I thought that now things would have changed, and I'm just a w bit disappointed that it has not. -Gel ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199321 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:43 -0400, Don Neizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have a beginning CFForm application where a dropdown list passes data over
to another dropdown list. Values passed to the second list can also be
removed.
cfformgroup type=vertical visible=yes enabled=yes
cfinput type=button name=addstate value=Add width=100
onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.From','this.To')
cfinput type=button name=removestate value= Remove width=100
onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.To','this.From')
/cfformgroup
You can't use javascript in a Flash form - it's ActionScript.
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RE: CFXM 6.1/7 on Windows Serer 2003
The following link should get you started http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-usst=bna=82qu=sec uring+Windows+2003+web+edition http://tinyurl.com/4leb9 Paul -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 March 2005 13:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFXM 6.1/7 on Windows Serer 2003 Paul, Thanx. I am running Web Edition. Any chance you know where to find some of those documents you referred to? On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:41:16 -, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run CFMX 6.1 on W2k3 standard and web editions for about 18 months. For CFMX 7 I have run it for a reasonable period on W2k3 web server edition and I have had no problems. Everyone of the servers I have helped get things running on W2k3 in the past that other people own has been down to spurious Windows services that are not required and are for whatever reason clashing with the JVM. There are many MS best practice docs regarding securing and trimming out the services that you don't need when you are running a web-server. I suggest that you use those docs and turn off everything you don't need and even some of the stuff that you do but isn't necessary for CFMX. Then turn on the services one by one that you do need and see how that affects your stability. Paul -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199323 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
The media exposure it gets is a new step. Blogs have been around for year too. It only needed that media attention for becoming what it is today. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199324 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
embedding an image in cfmail
Is it possible to do this in ColdFusion 6.1? I ask this because the email that
is sent via cfmail has a div tag in it with the style background-image
attribute and when I try to open the email in ms outlook, I get prompted to
enter the username and password. I have XP Professional SP2 running on my
desktop.
Kindly take a look at my code:
cfmail type=html from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
server=someserver port=25 subject=Updated replyto=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
failto=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
html
head
titleJob Updated/Completed/title
style type=text/css
a.input_txt { font-family: Arial, Verdana,
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: ##00; font-weight: normal;
background-color:##bb; }
a.input_txt:hover { font-family: Arial, Verdana,
sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: ##00; font-weight: normal;
background-color:##bb; }
a.input_txt:visited { font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px; color: ##00; font-weight: normal;
background-color:##bb; }
/style
/head
body bgcolor=##FF
div style=width:100%; height:100%; background-color:##FF;
align=center
div
style=background-image:url('#request.webRoot#Images/#bground#');
background-repeat:no-repeat; width:743px; height:460px;
background-color:##FF; position:relative; align=left
div style=position:relative; left:25px; top:120px;
width:690px; height:245px;
form id=emailFrm
table width=100% height=100% cellpadding=0
cellspacing=0 border=0
tr class=label
td
Ref:nbsp;nbsp;input id=Ref
name=Ref readonly=1 type=text style=width:90px; border-style:none;
background-color:##cbcecb; value=#form.hidjnumber#
/td
/tr
tr class=label
td colspan=2 valign=bottom
Comments
/td
/tr
tr
td colspan=2 valign=middle
textarea id=lastComment
name=lastComment readonly style=width:680px; height:165px;
class=input_txt#form.Comment#/textarea
/td
/tr
/table
/form
/div
/div
/div
/body
/html
/cfmail
Its the code with the url to the image that causes the problem
div style=background-image:url('#request.webRoot#Images/#bground#');
background-repeat:no-repeat; width:743px; height:460px;
background-color:##FF; position:relative; align=left
I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem and how did you go about
fixing it. I'll really apprecaite your help
Best regards
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Re: Ajax
The media exposure it gets is a new step. Blogs have been around for year too. It only needed that media attention for becoming what it is today. Agreed on that point. As with anything it takes a large, high-profile project or two for something to get widespread attention. I just was getting caught up on this thread and much of it had the tone of I for one welcome our new AJAX overlords! so I had a bit of a Huh? reaction. If it takes Google and Amazon doing it to get people aware of it and start utilizing the capabilities in their own apps where it makes sense to do so, then I'm all for it. There's a good QA at the bottom of this page that I think clears up some of the confusion that's been going through this thread: http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php Matt ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199326 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
another thing I forgot to mention, when I run the image on the browser, I don't get prompted to enter the username and password. http://gateway/pages/Images/jobupdated.gif The security settings on the images folder is set to Full Control ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199327 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
With 6.1 and the latest updater installed, it is possible to label the content-ids of attached files to the email... So you could in theory embed the images and reference them like img src=cid:8932740237492; Similarly to how Jochems AdvancedEmail tags work HTH On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:16:14 -0400, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another thing I forgot to mention, when I run the image on the browser, I don't get prompted to enter the username and password. http://gateway/pages/Images/jobupdated.gif The security settings on the images folder is set to Full Control ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199328 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
thanks Jedi for your reply. How do I go about embeding it. And the cid where can I generate this? I'm sorry I don't have any past experience in it Regards cfcoder ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199329 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
Something like: CFSCRIPT sFile = ExpandPath(sadie.jpg); sImageTo = ExpandPath(gilly.jpg); sImage1 = LCase(CreateUUID()); sImage2 = LCase(CreateUUID()); /CFSCRIPT CFMAIL FROM=[EMAIL PROTECTED] TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBJECT=Test Embedding Image CFMAILPARAM FILE=#sFile# TYPE=image/jpeg; CONTENTID=#sImage1# CFMAILPARAM FILE=#sImageTo# TYPE=image/jpeg; CONTENTID=#sImage2# CFMAILPART TYPE=text/plain CHARSET=utf-8plaing text part/CFMAILPART CFMAILPART TYPE=text/html CHARSET=utf-8 html body background=cid:#sImage2#; We Can Do itbr /img src=cid:#sImage1#;br /br /sdfoijbr /br /oijdoij /body /html /CFMAILPART /CFMAIL On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:32:47 -0400, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Jedi for your reply. How do I go about embeding it. And the cid where can I generate this? I'm sorry I don't have any past experience in it Regards cfcoder ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199330 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFOBJECT in the CF Administrator
I'm using a script that Uses COM and requires CFOBJECT be enabled in the CF
Administrator in CF version 5. I've looked throughout the admin and can't find
where to enable cfobject. It's the script in a previous post found at:
http://cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=105
Any ideas? Or is there something else that's missing here?
I'm using the script that returns the amount of free space (in bytes) available
to the ColdFusion server for a specified drive or network sharein CFLIB.org.
See below:
Robert O.
HWW
cfscript
function FreeSpace(drvPath)
{
Var fso = CreateObject(COM, Scripting.FileSystemObject);
Var drive = fso.GetDrive(c);
Return drive.FreeSpace;
}
/cfscript
CFOUTPUTFree space available on C: #FreeSpace(c:)# bytes/CFOUTPUT
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cfhttp to pdfs
Hey all, So, I'm whipping together a little link validator for a client that has a database full of links. It's pretty straightforward - I'm just looping over a query of links and using cfhttp to try to grab the headers. What I'm curious about is that many of the pdfs fail with a timeout error after 15 seconds (the time I've set in the cfhttp tag). But, if I just click the link manually, they load fine for me in much less than that. Is there something odd about the way CF tries to access PDF's. I know that some browsers will do a progressive fetch (and I'm not sure if CF does), but that really shouldn't be an issue if I'm just returning headers, should it? Anyone have any insight? -- Deanna Schneider UWEX-Cooperative Extension Interactive Media Developer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
JSESSIONID - Help
In CF (6.1 - updater) we have Use J2EE session variables unchecked in the CF Admin, but we are getting users who are getting JSESSIONID in their cookies. Check this out: They are maintaining their session just fine, w/ this cookie CFID=1259949;+CFTOKEN=67d6fb316d575646-A32F7B81-C388-E91F-C4B608E1B9949C 63 Then they get the JSESSIONID on the end, and they lose their session: CFID=1259949;+CFTOKEN=67d6fb316d575646-A32F7B81-C388-E91F-C4B608E1B9949C 63;+JSESSIONID=3030637c6aa5$F8E$8Ba Has anyone seen this before? This is happening on a number of different pages and we really need our customers to not lose their sessions. Please help. Thanks, Ryan Duckworth Macromedia ColdFusion Certified Professional Uhlig Communications 10983 Granada Lane Overland Park, KS 66211 (913) 754-4272 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199333 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Images in Flash Forms
Has anyone been able to get an image to appear inside a Flash form? The livedocs mention the use of the IMG tag to load jpgs, but I can't get it to work. Here is my code: cfform format=flash width=500 height=400 cfformgroup type=tabnavigator height=390 cfformgroup type=page label=Mike Dawson cfformitem type=html pThis is a paragraph asdf/p img src=http://www.evansville.edu/images/president/jennings.jpg; height=293 width=208 border=0 alt= /cfformitem /cfformgroup /cfform Thanks MAD ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199334 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Images in Flash Forms
Never mind. I had to fiddle with height and width attributes of the cfform... Tags. The docs state that these tags should resize themselves automatically. I guess not. M!ke -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Images in Flash Forms Has anyone been able to get an image to appear inside a Flash form? The livedocs mention the use of the IMG tag to load jpgs, but I can't get it to work. Here is my code: cfform format=flash width=500 height=400 cfformgroup type=tabnavigator height=390 cfformgroup type=page label=Mike Dawson cfformitem type=html pThis is a paragraph asdf/p img src=http://www.evansville.edu/images/president/jennings.jpg; height=293 width=208 border=0 alt= /cfformitem /cfformgroup /cfform Thanks MAD ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199335 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
I get an error when I run that code Attribute validation error for tag CFMAILPARAM. The tag does not allow the attribute(s) CONTENTID. The valid attribute(s) are FILE,NAME,TYPE,VALUE. This is the cfmx version I have installed on the server Version 6,1,0,hf52806_61 Any thoughts? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199336 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfhttp to pdfs
Deanna Schneider wrote: So, I'm whipping together a little link validator for a client that has a database full of links. It's pretty straightforward - I'm just looping over a query of links and using cfhttp to try to grab the headers. What I'm curious about is that many of the pdfs fail with a timeout error after 15 seconds (the time I've set in the cfhttp tag). But, if I just click the link manually, they load fine for me in much less than that. Is there something odd about the way CF tries to access PDF's. I know that some browsers will do a progressive fetch (and I'm not sure if CF does), but that really shouldn't be an issue if I'm just returning headers, should it? Are you really just returning headers (using the HEAD method)? Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199337 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
Just looked up the cfmailparam tag in the coldfusion 6.1 online documentation. CONTENTID attribute is not part of the tag. It is however included in CFMX 7 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-pb2.htm#wp1101294 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=part_cfm.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199338 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
you'll need the latest updater installed to bring you up to version Version: 6,1,0,83762 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:57:21 -0400, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get an error when I run that code Attribute validation error for tag CFMAILPARAM. The tag does not allow the attribute(s) CONTENTID. The valid attribute(s) are FILE,NAME,TYPE,VALUE. This is the cfmx version I have installed on the server Version 6,1,0,hf52806_61 Any thoughts? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199339 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
I had my suspicions. Thanks for confirming that for me Sean.
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:43 -0400, Don Neizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We have a beginning CFForm application where a dropdown list passes
data over to another dropdown list. Values passed to the second list
can also be removed.
cfformgroup type=vertical visible=yes enabled=yes
cfinput type=button name=addstate value=Add width=100
onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.From','this.To')
cfinput type=button name=removestate value= Remove
width=100 onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.To','this.From')
/cfformgroup
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Re: cfhttp to pdfs
Well, I'm using the head method, and I'm assuming it's doing as it's saying and really just returning headers: This is the snippet that does it: cfhttp method=head timeout=15 url=#getlinks.link[i]#/cfhttp - Original Message - From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: Re: cfhttp to pdfs Are you really just returning headers (using the HEAD method)? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199341 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFFILE Coldfusion code
You could download the core files for Fusebox 4.1, it writes cfm files frequently. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andy Mcshane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFFILE Coldfusion code Hi, I am trying to dynamically create .cfm pages. I am using the CFFILE 'Write' attribute but I am having problems when trying to write Coldfusion code out to the file, it apears that the Coldfusion code is evaluated before the write takes place and I get an error. How can I write out Coldfusion code to a text file without getting these errors? Many thanks, ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199342 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
So then is it possible to do the same time of validation that Don has in
Javascript, in ActionScript using CFForm type=flash?
Or is this theif you want advanced features, roll your own Flash?
Ali
-Original Message-
From: Don Neizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
I had my suspicions. Thanks for confirming that for me Sean.
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:43 -0400, Don Neizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We have a beginning CFForm application where a dropdown list passes
data over to another dropdown list. Values passed to the second list
can also be removed.
cfformgroup type=vertical visible=yes enabled=yes
cfinput type=button name=addstate value=Add width=100
onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.From','this.To')
cfinput type=button name=removestate value= Remove
width=100 onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.To','this.From')
/cfformgroup
You can't use javascript in a Flash form - it's ActionScript.
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Re: embedding an image in cfmail
halfway down the page is the following section: marmot said on Sep 14, 2004 at 6:00 AM : which reports that the Content-ID has been added to 6.1 in the latest updater On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:05:43 -0400, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just looked up the cfmailparam tag in the coldfusion 6.1 online documentation. CONTENTID attribute is not part of the tag. It is however included in CFMX 7 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-pb2.htm#wp1101294 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=part_cfm.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199344 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
CFXHosting has a great VPS plan and you pick the CF version and the server is limited to 4 customers; each uniquely isolated, so you can reboot your own isolation if you need to, you get complete control! http://cfxhosting.com/StandardHosting/VPS/index.cfm Stephenie -Original Message- From: Mickael Hi All, I know that hosting has been discussed many times on this list. But I would still like to know who the stars are. I am presently hosting with Hostmysite.com and crystaltech.com but as of late their machines are getting overloaded. I am looking for semi dedicated hosting for CF 6.1 and SQL server. Can anyone recommend a company that they have had a good experience with? The two companies that I am with answer the phone 7/24 which is a big plus as well. Thanks Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199345 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: embedding an image in cfmail
thanks for this. I'll do this on Monday as I have to wait for clearance. Regards cfcoder ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
You also get no security, by the looks of things: 1) RDS is enabled 2) You get full access to the CF Admin (and so does everyone else on the server) 3) It's CF Pro, not Enterprise, so nothing is sandboxed. I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they do the isolation - either thay have 4 copies of CF running on each machine or they don't have isolated CF servers. -Original Message- From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 March 2005 10:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Hosting for SEMI dedicated CFXHosting has a great VPS plan and you pick the CF version and the server is limited to 4 customers; each uniquely isolated, so you can reboot your own isolation if you need to, you get complete control! http://cfxhosting.com/StandardHosting/VPS/index.cfm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199347 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
Just as a check I may have misunderstood but are you allowing end users to update the key in the database? Also is everything that needs to be in a transaction definitely in a transaction? Kola -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199348 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
And don't forget to call there sales department when it's time to order because you will typically find out about products / pricing that isn't posted to there site yet. (they are a little slow to update it :) ) jonese On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:22:51 -0400, Stephenie Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFXHosting has a great VPS plan and you pick the CF version and the server is limited to 4 customers; each uniquely isolated, so you can reboot your own isolation if you need to, you get complete control! http://cfxhosting.com/StandardHosting/VPS/index.cfm Stephenie -Original Message- From: Mickael Hi All, I know that hosting has been discussed many times on this list. But I would still like to know who the stars are. I am presently hosting with Hostmysite.com and crystaltech.com but as of late their machines are getting overloaded. I am looking for semi dedicated hosting for CF 6.1 and SQL server. Can anyone recommend a company that they have had a good experience with? The two companies that I am with answer the phone 7/24 which is a big plus as well. Thanks Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199349 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
You mean the tone of not everybody can do it? :) To be honest, that is the just the case with Ajax. It isn't simple due to the large combination of factors involved with developing such applications. A lot of techniques involved, lack of descent debugging and profiling tools, buggy implementations of standards, proprietary implementations, different platforms with different browsers, mix this all up in a blender and you get complexity. Most stuff doesn't come out of the book, but is only achieved by years of experience. The learning curve is very steep. Even the most experienced JavaScript gurus find building these types of applications to be very complex and challenging, and those are people having no problem at all building dynamic menus, components or the most advanced types of XSLT layouts. And I don't want to be rude, but there aren't many people who can do such stuff. But people without all the knowledge just don't know why it is that complex and I don't blame them, because it is too much to explain in some simple posts. Also Jesse James Garrett made that warning in his posting and for a reason. Ajax applications inevitably involve running complex JavaScript code on the client. Making that complex code efficient and bug-free is not a task to be taken lightly, and better development tools and frameworks will be needed to help us meet that challenge. You really need a lot of experience in the involved techniques. Ajax does not have the learning curve CF developers are used to, and it will never get that learning curve because implementations vary on the type of application, and the techniques behind them not only change very often, but also depend on the browser and the developers experience. Developers cannot rely on the standards with for example IE in its current form. Ajax in the end is nothing more than an approach. It depends on the type of application, if you take the usual approach, the Ajax approach, or the RIA approach. If you have to take care of vector/video/audio/animation an RIA is the best solution, not Ajax. It is not a technique, or a technology. It is a different way of architecture in web applications. XMLHttpRequest is just a little piece of this approach. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199350 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And I don't want to be rude, but there aren't many people who can do such stuff. But people without all the knowledge just don't know why it is that complex and I don't blame them, because it is too much to explain in some simple posts. Also Jesse James Garrett made that warning in his posting and for a reason. A little arrogant of you to say considering you aren't aware of everyone's abilities. I am sure many of us could pick up on it and just because it is challenging does not mean it is impossible. Plus, as a programmer, challenges are what keeps our jobs interesting! C++ was hard when I first was learning it, now its not too bad. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199351 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
I do a lot of data binding and checking with AS in my Flash forms, but
I'm not sure of the limitations. You can easily use selections in one
box to select or populate other form elements. One thing I'd love to do
and if anyone has an idea on how to do it I'd be glad to hear, is to
change labels based on a selection. I've got billing information with
dropdowns and text boxes/areas. I auto populate all the shipping info
with the billing info as the user fills it out -- no trouble. I also
have a payment method section. I haven't figured out yet how I can
change the label from credit card num to gift certificate id based
on which radio button is selected. I just don't know how to get at the
labels.
--Ferg
-Original Message-
From: Ali Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
So then is it possible to do the same time of validation that Don has in
Javascript, in ActionScript using CFForm type=flash?
Or is this theif you want advanced features, roll your own Flash?
Ali
-Original Message-
From: Don Neizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7, CFForms, and Javascript
I had my suspicions. Thanks for confirming that for me Sean.
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:43 -0400, Don Neizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We have a beginning CFForm application where a dropdown list passes
data over to another dropdown list. Values passed to the second list
can also be removed.
cfformgroup type=vertical visible=yes enabled=yes
cfinput type=button name=addstate value=Add width=100
onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.From','this.To')
cfinput type=button name=removestate value= Remove
width=100 onclick=javascript:copyToList('this.To','this.From')
/cfformgroup
You can't use javascript in a Flash form - it's ActionScript.
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RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
No, the key is unique and not editable. The transactions are all complete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Just as a check I may have misunderstood but are you allowing end users to update the key in the database? Also is everything that needs to be in a transaction definitely in a transaction? Kola -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Cross domain quandry
I have a scenario that I've never had to address before. I have 2 domains that share the same database. One domain will be for retail product sales while the second domain will be for membership-based, larger quantities Costco style product sales. I'd like a user to be able to bounce back and forth between both sites and add items to his/her cart and when they choose to checkout from either domain, see all of the products they've added from both sites. Both sites would share the same database. Considering that cookies are domain-specific and I haven't explicitly passed URLToken in the URLs, is there an easy way to do this? Rey... ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199354 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfgrid in cfform (flash)
I was just reading some of the livedocs on this and ran across this little nugget: Note: Clicking the submit button while editing a grid cell occasionally causes the cell changes to be lost. To ensure that changes are submitted properly, Macromedia recommends that after user updates data in a cell, they click another cell before submitting the form. You've gotta be kidding me, right? I think this pretty much renders this tag useless for making changes. It's not really acceptable to tell the users, well of course your data didn't get updated; you didn't click on another cell, duh. You mean you don't have to do that in excel...? Hopefully this is just an error that didn't get fixed before launch and will be addressed sooner than later. --Ferg -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed No, the key is unique and not editable. The transactions are all complete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Just as a check I may have misunderstood but are you allowing end users to update the key in the database? Also is everything that needs to be in a transaction definitely in a transaction? Kola -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe:
Re: What happened to FusionScript?
Went to the site fusionscript.com and it looks like it got taken over by one of those search pages. Did the project die out? Rey/// I can't say with absolute certainty, but that's been my impression... At some point the original author decided it was too much work to maintain on his own without some kind of compensation and made the following version of it commercial instead of open-source. A lot of folks were really upset. He did sell several coppies (iirc it was something like $100 for a site license). I haven't talked to him since then, but I've been told that he spoke at a CFUG or the like recently and mentioned regretting the decision to make it commercial. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/author/?id=4806 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Hosting for SEMI dedicated
You also get no security, by the looks of things: 1) RDS is enabled 2) You get full access to the CF Admin (and so does everyone else on the server) 3) It's CF Pro, not Enterprise, so nothing is sandboxed. I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they do the isolation - either thay have 4 copies of CF running on each machine or they don't have isolated CF servers. If they're using CF Pro, they're probably not running multiple copies on each machine, since you can't really do that with CF Pro. If it's within a virtual server, CF Pro is a sensible choice, since you essentially have your own dedicated server and don't have to worry about anyone else doing anything within that server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199357 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
You mean the tone of not everybody can do it? :) To be honest, that is the just the case with Ajax. It isn't simple due to the large combination of factors involved with developing such applications. Any competent programmer can do this stuff. It's simply not that hard. It is, however, quite tedious, and the available development tools range from primitive to non-existent, and many people simply don't want to pay for the amount of development time often needed for complex DHTML solutions. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
We had a situation where a manager would enter a pay increase for employee A but it would save the record into employee B record. Basically what was happening is they would enter employee B make some changes to the form, change their mind, click the back button a couple times to employee A record and hit submit. Well, the session information from employee B was still hanging around and was insert into employee A record. Maybe something like this could have occurred, he entered a different name, changed his mind went to a different screen and saved some form contents and it saved the bogus name. Thanks, CC This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Gavin Brook gavin.brook @swebtec.com 03/18/2005 08:59 AM Please respond to cf-talk To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com cc: Subject:RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed No, the key is unique and not editable. The transactions are all complete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Just as a check I may have misunderstood but are you allowing end users to update the key in the database? Also is everything that needs to be in a transaction definitely in a transaction? Kola -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
I like adding these lines to applications like this, just for this reason. So that users can't cause bad things to happen by using the back button. !--- set headers to prevent the page from be cached by the browser --- cfheader name=expires value=#now()# cfheader name=Cache-Control value=no-cache cfheader name=Pragma value=no-cache Causes any page with these headers, to not be cached so that they can not be reached with the back button. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed We had a situation where a manager would enter a pay increase for employee A but it would save the record into employee B record. Basically what was happening is they would enter employee B make some changes to the form, change their mind, click the back button a couple times to employee A record and hit submit. Well, the session information from employee B was still hanging around and was insert into employee A record. Maybe something like this could have occurred, he entered a different name, changed his mind went to a different screen and saved some form contents and it saved the bogus name. Thanks, CC - --- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. - --- Gavin Brook gavin.brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/2005 08:59 AM Please respond to cf-talk To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com cc: Subject:RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed No, the key is unique and not editable. The transactions are all complete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 15:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Just as a check I may have misunderstood but are you allowing end users to update the key in the database? Also is everything that needs to be in a transaction definitely in a transaction? Kola -Original Message- From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Definitely. I have reviewed my code and had other developers review it too, just to be sure. Is there any possibility of CFMX or SQL doing this?? I've searched and cannot find anything. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 13:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed Stay away from accusations, say that all the evidence points to a mistake on their part.This way they may be less defensive. Also double check that your code is solid. Ade -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 12:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed If your client contact is non technical, you may just need to talk them through the evidence very carefully so they can understand the sequence of events as you do. Maybe you could should them as example of entering data and changing data and then show them the log records that are created from the example. Mike On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:01 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was
Re: Ajax
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:50:14 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little arrogant of you to say considering you aren't aware of everyone's abilities. I am sure many of us could pick up on it and just because it is challenging does not mean it is impossible. Plus, as a programmer, challenges are what keeps our jobs interesting! C++ was hard when I first was learning it, now its not too bad. This is one of those extremely rare occasions when I find myself in agreement with Micha. This isn't just a technology issue, there's a lot of application design considerations behind this stuff and it *is* hard. Like OO is hard. Sure, a few folks get it straight away and some folks struggle and eventually get enough of it to become competent but most people don't (they *think* they get it but...). Google Maps and so on requires more than competence. Stuff like that is not within the reach of the average programmer. Sorry, but that's a fact of life. Scott Meyers (of Effective C++) summed it up nicely many years back by saying there are three types of programmers: private, protected and public. The private guys are the gurus who build the really cool foundation stuff. The protected guys package that up and make usable tools and libraries. The public guys build applications with those tools and libraries. He said the real problem is that we as an industry have not accepted this 'layering' of programmer skills and we don't structure projects accordingly - so we don't leverage the private / protected skills properly. It's not always a popular view but it's also shared by Joel Spolsky to some extent. During his fireside chat last night he talked about successful methodologies and said that they all rely on a magic happens here which is where smart people solve hard problems. He said that you cannot simply throw a load of grunt programmers at a project and expect it to succeed. Micha is just saying don't promise your boss you can write an application like Google Maps. Start small (and make sure you test in every browser to make sure your application degrades gracefully if it doesn't work perfectly). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199362 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cross domain quandry
Store the details in a temp table and log them into both domains at the same time. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Cross domain quandry I have a scenario that I've never had to address before. I have 2 domains that share the same database. One domain will be for retail product sales while the second domain will be for membership-based, larger quantities Costco style product sales. I'd like a user to be able to bounce back and forth between both sites and add items to his/her cart and when they choose to checkout from either domain, see all of the products they've added from both sites. Both sites would share the same database. Considering that cookies are domain-specific and I haven't explicitly passed URLToken in the URLs, is there an easy way to do this? Rey... ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199361 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed
The session is only used to store the details of the user who has logged in. Everything is through the forms. Even manipulating the form would show up in the audit log. As an update, I've now added logging to log everything being sent to the server, so we can effectively track every mouse click. All the evidence points to user error, so hopefully when confronted with the extensive logs, it will carry more weight. Thanks, Gavin -Original Message- From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 16:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ideas - Your Help Needed We had a situation where a manager would enter a pay increase for employee A but it would save the record into employee B record. Basically what was happening is they would enter employee B make some changes to the form, change their mind, click the back button a couple times to employee A record and hit submit. Well, the session information from employee B was still hanging around and was insert into employee A record. Maybe something like this could have occurred, he entered a different name, changed his mind went to a different screen and saved some form contents and it saved the bogus name. Thanks, CC ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199363 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
OT (sorry) - Ajax examples website
http://www.fiftyfoureleven.com/resources/programming/xmlhttprequest/exam ples Read this on the appfuse mailing list. Given the recent discussions on this subject i thought it might be of interest. /t ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199364 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
This is one of those extremely rare occasions when I find myself in agreement with Micha. This isn't just a technology issue, there's a lot of application design considerations behind this stuff and it *is* hard. Like OO is hard. Sure, a few folks get it straight away and some folks struggle and eventually get enough of it to become competent but most people don't (they *think* they get it but...). Google Maps and so on requires more than competence. Stuff like that is not within the reach of the average programmer. Sorry, but that's a fact of life. Yes, compared to CF programming in general, DHTML interfaces are hard. Just because something is hard doesn't make it out of reach of the average programmer. I'm sorry, but you're simply setting the bar too low. Programming is relatively hard, compared to many other occupations! We have been developing applications like this for years. Any attendee of the DC CFUG/WAMMO groups can attest to that, as we would present them very frequently. Typically, the initial development would be done by extremely skilled people, but we would regularly bring on developers to maintain (and extend) these applications. These developers would typically be competent, but relatively inexperienced with DHTML development. And yet they would be able to learn what they needed to successfully maintain the applications! Imagine that! Interestingly enough, we found we could make more money by providing simpler interfaces for most applications - clients simply didn't see the value of the more powerful interface. So, we haven't really been working on these sorts of interfaces nearly as much lately as, say, two years ago. Perhaps now that it has a snappy buzzword, we'll see an upturn in people wanting that sort of functionality. Micha is just saying don't promise your boss you can write an application like Google Maps. Start small (and make sure you test in every browser to make sure your application degrades gracefully if it doesn't work perfectly). Wise words, I'll agree. But I'm not sure that's what he was saying, and it sure isn't what you said above. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199365 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cross domain quandry
I have a scenario that I've never had to address before. I have 2 domains that share the same database. One domain will be for retail product sales while the second domain will be for membership-based, larger quantities Costco style product sales. I'd like a user to be able to bounce back and forth between both sites and add items to his/her cart and when they choose to checkout from either domain, see all of the products they've added from both sites. Both sites would share the same database. Considering that cookies are domain-specific and I haven't explicitly passed URLToken in the URLs, is there an easy way to do this? You could use an image in one domain, and have that image served by a CF page on the other domain. You could pass a token in the IMG tag that would let you track the user in both domains simultaneously. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199366 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cross domain quandry
Thanks Connie. Thats kind of what I had envisioned. The user will get a new CFID/CFToken key pair for each domain so I'm trying to figure out how to identify the user across both domains. - Original Message - From: Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: RE: Cross domain quandry Store the details in a temp table and log them into both domains at the same time. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Cross domain quandry I have a scenario that I've never had to address before. I have 2 domains that share the same database. One domain will be for retail product sales while the second domain will be for membership-based, larger quantities Costco style product sales. I'd like a user to be able to bounce back and forth between both sites and add items to his/her cart and when they choose to checkout from either domain, see all of the products they've added from both sites. Both sites would share the same database. Considering that cookies are domain-specific and I haven't explicitly passed URLToken in the URLs, is there an easy way to do this? Rey... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199367 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ideas - Your Help Needed
More ideas for what they are worth. Is the user authentication rock solid? Could have another user made the changes? Could a proxy server have mixed things up somehow? Kore Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com tec.com cc: Subject: Ideas - Your Help Needed 03/18/2005 06:42 AM Please respond to cf-talk Hi All, I've got a little bit of a problem and I hope that you guys would be able to give me advice or shed a little light on a situation I have The Setup 1xApplication Server - Windows 2003 Web Edition - CFMX 6.1 Standard, all patches 1xDatabase Server - Windows 2003 Standard Edition - SQL Server 2000 SP3a This setup is running an application that our company wrote to store data relating people. This information is entered through a dynamic form which is configured through an admin interface. The whole application has been developed using Mach-II. The system has been live for a year now and was thouroughly tested by all parties before go live. There have been a couple of bugs since, but the code has been unchanged and stable for at 8months now. The problem is this. We have been getting reports of data corruption on a very small number of forms. I have investigated this corruption. The system logs who made what changes to the system to provide an audit trail for each form. The audit trail shows users have made the corrupt changes to the form and I presented this to the client. They will not accept this response. I'll give you an example, a name had been changed from one to another. I checked the live database and a backup and they both show that a user changed the name. The user insists that he did not change the name. I cannot see in light of this evidence and problem with my code or the system. My question to the forum is basically, is there anything I'm missing? Sorry for the longwinded explanation, but I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall! Any ideas you might will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gavin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199368 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
OT: FCKEditor
Anyone using FCKEditor? http://www.fckeditor.net I have an issue when I insert a Euro symbol - when sent to certain clients via an Email via CFMAIL it does not show as a Euro but instead they display as â'¬ or  Now, I have set the charset on the cfmail to ISO but on Web Clients such as Hotmail the display is shafted. I can enter in the code area of the editor euro; but when I swap via Source to Display it changes it back - which I know is an error in the editor. Just wondering if I can get around the crappy text issue. Any ideas? N This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199369 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: FCKEditor
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Now, I have set the charset on the cfmail to ISO but on Web Clients such as Hotmail the display is shafted. which iso? iso-8859-1 came before the euro. you're safest using unicode/utf-8 if you can. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199370 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ajax and its supposed complexity
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:15 -0500 We have been developing applications like this for years. Any attendee of the DC CFUG/WAMMO groups can attest to that, as we would present them very frequently. Typically, the initial development would be done by extremely skilled people, but we would regularly bring on developers to maintain (and extend) these applications. These developers would typically be competent, but relatively inexperienced with DHTML development. And yet they would be able to learn what they needed to successfully maintain the applications! Imagine that! Dave Watts is usually on the money when analyzing ROI/management/programming/clients. Indeed I was just such a Fig Leaf programmer charged with O+M and scaling just such applications in the late 90s. One reason that this kind of application doesn't frighten me in the slightest- I've been to the abyss of javascript juggling hidden frames and assembling WDDX. I'm not genius programmer, but I'm paid to build applications, not be on the forefront of CompSci R+D- I find the parts with the maximum ROI, hit that sweet spot and reap the kudos. Like Dave, I'm flummoxed by the attitude that Ajax is just too difficult for most people. It's not. It might be hard to invent a new application from whole cloth, but I've been reading enough about design patterns to acknowledge that as a whole, we shouldn't be reinventing every wheel as it is. I am convinced that in 3 months we'll have a series of easy to implement tools that we can share. I tried to explain the technology (or technique if you don't want to use the business definition to my staff and it was over their heads. I did converted the webpasties example to something for our organization and the lightbulbs clicked in people's heads. If I can do A and B, then I can do C and D too, and what about F? Dude, the clients don't need F. What's critical to remember is that throughout history, the best engineers combined and marketed existing technologies. Surely many of you remember products developed for the space program that ended up on our breakfast tables. There is nothing at all anomalous about the marketing behind Ajax and I'm all for it. Don ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199371 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: FCKEditor
Fails with crap chars again... Grrr -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2005 17:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: FCKEditor Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Now, I have set the charset on the cfmail to ISO but on Web Clients such as Hotmail the display is shafted. which iso? iso-8859-1 came before the euro. you're safest using unicode/utf-8 if you can. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199372 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ajax
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:15 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Programming is relatively hard, compared to many other occupations! I think a lot of people in the CF community would agree that there are quite a few non-programmers in this community. We have been developing applications like this for years. I'm not saying that *no* CFers can do this. Typically, the initial development would be done by extremely skilled people, but we would regularly bring on developers to maintain (and extend) these applications. Which is exactly what I'm saying: you use protected or even private programmers to build this stuff and then public programmers to maintain it. These developers would typically be competent, but relatively inexperienced with DHTML development. Agreed. And yet they would be able to learn what they needed to successfully maintain the applications! Imagine that! I'd sure hope so - that's exactly what I was saying. They can learn to be competent. You've confirmed exactly what I said. But you wouldn't expect them to be able to write it from scratch, right? That's the purview of the extremely skilled to use your words. Wise words, I'll agree. But I'm not sure that's what he was saying, and it sure isn't what you said above. Apparently it is since we seem to be in violent agreement on most points... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199373 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cross domain quandry
-Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cross domain quandry You could use an image in one domain, and have that image served by a CF page on the other domain. You could pass a token in the IMG tag that would let you track the user in both domains simultaneously. We've done this and it's worked well. However one caveat: you must place a CPP (Compact Privacy Statement) on both servers for this to work under the P3P (Platform for Privacy Policy). Browsers (like IE 6) that support this won't set cookies from a third party server unless the CPP exists. Look up P3P at www.w3c.org or google it for more information. I think for your stated issue that should work very well. For a more complex implementation we've also created a rather clever (if I do say so myself) Cross Application Trust system. The major benefit to this is that it allows apps to define trust relationships between themselves. Each application declares certain assertions (variable names and types and such) that can be tested and updated automatically by trusted apps. When an application moves from one to another it passes a bundle of encrypted information. This information is then checked against the assertions - if they're okay then you can get in and the new app knows that certain variables are available to it without further fuss and muss. The application chain is maintained as an ordered Stack of identity information. The HUGE win for us here is that it allows us to alias users as other users since each app can have a different identity in its stack element. Although the user is aliased as another user on a system the stack contains the source information to allow for various entitlement management. This allows, for example, a customer service rep to log in to the customer service application, then choose a financial rep from the extranet application and enter the extranet (via the trust relationship) as that rep. They might then choose a customer from the customer-facing application and enter that (again via a trust relationship) as that customer. So you have the ability for a service rep to see exactly what a rep and a customer see. The application's involved still know that it's a service rep because they can look at the stack chain and if they needed to they could limit access in some cases. For example while a Rep can see a customer's accounts they can't change a customer's address. Finally this whole mess is stored in a home grown metrics application which allows us to examine activity on customer accounts and know if the customer or some aliased financial rep or service rep was the user involved. Sorry for the book - I'm actually quite pleased with this system. ;^) It's written in CF 4.5 and has worked wonders for us for several years now and is still more capable in what it does than any of the Websphere systems that will be taking its place. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
I think a lot of people in the CF community would agree that there are quite a few non-programmers in this community. Writing CF is programming. While there may be many people whose first programming experience is with CF, once they start building applications they are programmers. Whether they are competent or not is another question. I'd sure hope so - that's exactly what I was saying. They can learn to be competent. You've confirmed exactly what I said. Unfortunately, that is not what you said. Here's what you said: Stuff like that is not within the reach of the average programmer. Sorry, but that's a fact of life. I disagree with that. Which is exactly what I'm saying: you use protected or even private programmers to build this stuff and then public programmers to maintain it. However, my point was that these public programmers, once they learned the technology, could then use it not just to make minor modifications, but to extend the application or even build a similar application from scratch! We had plenty of people who, once exposed to the concepts, understood them fully and could use them. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199375 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
-Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax So that's the technologies involved with the demo apps on backbase.com... xhtml, css, xmlhttprequest? Just remember with all of this talk about xmlhttprequest some of us have been doing this for years using winhttp. ;^) On the IE side of the fence this is really what HTA's (hypertext applications) are all about: a rich, fully functional presentation layer running on the client. I've recently been working on my biggest HTA yet - very capable and completely client-side. Contact with the middleware is done exclusively via post-up, XML-return. I never thought this was anything beyond n-tiered application development myself. I guess I like that somebody has given it a name, but I'm with those that just don't know why everybody thinks it such a new idea. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199376 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: FCKEditor
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Fails with crap chars again... unicode (or whatever) char encoding end-to-end? on the cfmail tag, etc.? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199377 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax
-Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax As a followup: Regarding Ajax, David Mendels of Macromedia stated the following, which I totally agree with: It is really, really, really hard to build something like Gmail and Google Maps, said David Mendels, general manager of platform products for Macromedia. Google hired rocket scientists--they hired Adam Bosworth, who invented DHTML when he was at Microsoft. Most companies can't go and repeat what Google has done. I can only say, don't be fooled when making promises to your boss. Doing Ajax on web application area is experts work. Doing Ajax on smaller parts anyone can do. It depends really. I pride myself on being able to do this stuff - but the goal at first isn't to do the app, it's to build the components of it. Nueromancer is a good example as is the JSGatewayAPI and others: once you have abstractions of the tools required putting the rest together isn't all that hard. So, yes, building the APIs are rocket science, but once they're out there and available we start building up steam. Jim Davis ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199378 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ajax list
Please remember that there is an Ajax list for technical talk about Ajax. Might be a nice place for all these threads on Ajax, Neuromancer, xmlhttprequest, etc. http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/47 Thanks ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199379 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Dreamweaver CFMX7 extensions, CFC filtering useless?
Yeah, it doesn't work for me either. I have been playing with FlexBuilder 1.5 which came with my DevNet subscription, and CFC filtering does work in there. Curious why the feature is in there, but not in DWMX, since FB is supposedly using the same core as DWMX with some added features for Flex development. Jeff On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:51:54 -0400, Gel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a bit upset this morning when trying to use the DMWX CFMX7 extensions. What was especially useful was being able to filter the CFC components for a specific site only. But when I tried to do this, it didn't work. Further digging revealed that if you have your Websites ina virtual directory (and really, who the heck doesn't partition their work in this way?) the CFC filtering doesn't work. .what's the point of that? Using CFCs is great, and it's the way to go. Why doesn't the official sanctioned IDE for Macromedia development support this better? Why do I have to be looking at alternatives like CFEClipse when a sizeable investment was already made in DWMX? Is there a way around this CFC filtering issue? Because listing all the CFCs on the server when I'm dealing with just one site made this feature unusable before. I thought that now things would have changed, and I'm just a w bit disappointed that it has not. -Gel ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFC Documentation - document private variables?
I'm working on a doc generator for my CFC implementation and just want an opinion: Should private variables be documented? Right now I've got three Access types for properties: Public: These properties exist in the this scope. They can be accessed publicly or via special generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). These are open, public properties Abstract: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined in my system such that they can be accessed via the generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). In other words they're public (sort of) but abstracted via getter/setter methods. Static: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined such that they can accessed via the generic getter but NOT the generic setter. (Of course there's no way to stop you from building a custom setter. Also Static structs or queries, being passed by reference are also updatable outside the component instance.) These are read-only properties (as long as you don't create a custom setter). They are abstracted through the generic getter method but no the setter. I'm considering adding Private which would also be in the variables scope but would not be accessible by the generic getter/setter at all. However they would be available to ancestor components. These would be useful really only for documentation. Also many of them are not available until the component init() method has been run (so if and extended component failed to run super.init() then they might not be available at all). If you were reading documentation on CFCs, would you want to see them or not? I've already made the decision to display private methods in the docs (as they're definitely available and useful to ancestors) but I'm torn about private properties... (Please note that I'm not very familiar with Java either - I think that the names I've choosen are close to their Java meanings - or not in conflict at all - but I'm not sure. If the access names used strike you as really stupid please recommend something different... I spent way too long trying to come up with descriptive labels for this stuff. ;^) ) Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199381 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cross domain quandry
Thanks Dave. Could you elaborate a bit on this? I've never implemented that before so I'm not quite following. Rey... - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: RE: Cross domain quandry I have a scenario that I've never had to address before. I have 2 domains that share the same database. One domain will be for retail product sales while the second domain will be for membership-based, larger quantities Costco style product sales. I'd like a user to be able to bounce back and forth between both sites and add items to his/her cart and when they choose to checkout from either domain, see all of the products they've added from both sites. Both sites would share the same database. Considering that cookies are domain-specific and I haven't explicitly passed URLToken in the URLs, is there an easy way to do this? You could use an image in one domain, and have that image served by a CF page on the other domain. You could pass a token in the IMG tag that would let you track the user in both domains simultaneously. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199382 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFC Documentation - document private variables?
I document all variables with notes if they are: Public (this) Private to the CFC (variables) Private to a method (var within a cffunction). Arguments Environmental - (usually just CGI but also Url and Form when specified) I like your concept of Abstract and would include a private as you've defined it. I'm working on a doc generator for my CFC implementation and just want an opinion: Should private variables be documented? Right now I've got three Access types for properties: Public: These properties exist in the this scope. They can be accessed publicly or via special generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). These are open, public properties Abstract: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined in my system such that they can be accessed via the generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). In other words they're public (sort of) but abstracted via getter/setter methods. Static: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined such that they can accessed via the generic getter but NOT the generic setter. (Of course there's no way to stop you from building a custom setter. Also Static structs or queries, being passed by reference are also updatable outside the component instance.) These are read-only properties (as long as you don't create a custom setter). They are abstracted through the generic getter method but no the setter. I'm considering adding Private which would also be in the variables scope but would not be accessible by the generic getter/setter at all. However they would be available to ancestor components. These would be useful really only for documentation. Also many of them are not available until the component init() method has been run (so if and extended component failed to run super.init() then they might not be available at all). If you were reading documentation on CFCs, would you want to see them or not? I've already made the decision to display private methods in the docs (as they're definitely available and useful to ancestors) but I'm torn about private properties... (Please note that I'm not very familiar with Java either - I think that the names I've choosen are close to their Java meanings - or not in conflict at all - but I'm not sure. If the access names used strike you as really stupid please recommend something different... I spent way too long trying to come up with descriptive labels for this stuff. ;^) ) Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199383 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Best, Fastest, Cleanest, Most Elegant way to determine if your in an application?
I've got the following method in my root CFC: cffunction name=isApplication hint=Returns true if the application scope has been instantiated. returntype=boolean access=public output=No !--- Try the app --- cfif IsDefined(Application) cfreturn true / cfelse cfreturn false / /cfif /cffunction It seems to work pretty well, but every once in a while I'm getting odd results. I've also tried: cffunction name=isApplication hint=Returns true if the application scope has been instantiated. returntype=boolean access=public output=No !--- Set Local Scope --- cfset var local = StructNew() / cftry cfset application.SomeReallyLongVariableNameThatWontBeUsedElsewhere = true / cfcatch type=any cfreturn false / /cfcatch /cftry /cffunction But this has also been a little flakey (and seems like it would have more overhead for having to generate an error instance). Basically I'm looking for the fastest, best way to do this. (My CFCs store metadata about themselves - if they're called in an application they store it the application scope, if they're called outside of an application they store it in the server scope.) Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199384 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Reg Ex Help
Can any one help me with this regEx. It is supposed to replace any == character sequences found inside single quotes with =. This regEx, supplied by someone on this list works partially and replaces the final == correctly but missed the first instance. Can anyone see why? cfset tempString = [CONFERENCE] == 'OPTION A == FULL CONFERENCE PACKAGE' OR [CONFERENCE] == '69 == this price' cfoutput pre#tempString#/pre pre#REReplace(tempString, '(.*)?==(.*)?', '\1=\2', ALL)/pre /cfoutput Brook ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199385 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Best, Fastest, Cleanest, Most Elegant way to determine if your in an application?
(My CFCs store metadata about themselves - if they're called in an application they store it the application scope, if they're called outside of an application they store it in the server scope.) Why don't they store it in their 'variables' scope, so it's internal? That way the burden of picking the right scope to store the info in rests solely on the shoulders of the app developer, who will know whether application or server is more appropriate. cheers, barneyb On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:47:35 -0500, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got the following method in my root CFC: cffunction name=isApplication hint=Returns true if the application scope has been instantiated. returntype=boolean access=public output=No !--- Try the app --- cfif IsDefined(Application) cfreturn true / cfelse cfreturn false / /cfif /cffunction It seems to work pretty well, but every once in a while I'm getting odd results. I've also tried: cffunction name=isApplication hint=Returns true if the application scope has been instantiated. returntype=boolean access=public output=No !--- Set Local Scope --- cfset var local = StructNew() / cftry cfset application.SomeReallyLongVariableNameThatWontBeUsedElsewhere = true / cfcatch type=any cfreturn false / /cfcatch /cftry /cffunction But this has also been a little flakey (and seems like it would have more overhead for having to generate an error instance). Basically I'm looking for the fastest, best way to do this. (My CFCs store metadata about themselves - if they're called in an application they store it the application scope, if they're called outside of an application they store it in the server scope.) Jim Davis -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199386 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reg Ex Help
You need to not match single quotes in your character classes. Try this one: '([^']*)?==([^']*)?' cheers, barneyb On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:01:15 -0800, Brook Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can any one help me with this regEx. It is supposed to replace any == character sequences found inside single quotes with =. This regEx, supplied by someone on this list works partially and replaces the final == correctly but missed the first instance. Can anyone see why? cfset tempString = [CONFERENCE] == 'OPTION A == FULL CONFERENCE PACKAGE' OR [CONFERENCE] == '69 == this price' cfoutput pre#tempString#/pre pre#REReplace(tempString, '(.*)?==(.*)?', '\1=\2', ALL)/pre /cfoutput Brook -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 50 invites. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199387 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFC Documentation - document private variables?
You probably already know about this but spike has a really cool tool called cfcdoc that scans your cfcs and make documentation for them. It even works real time IIRC http://www.spike.org.uk/projects/cfcdoc/ On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:42:56 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I document all variables with notes if they are: Public (this) Private to the CFC (variables) Private to a method (var within a cffunction). Arguments Environmental - (usually just CGI but also Url and Form when specified) I like your concept of Abstract and would include a private as you've defined it. I'm working on a doc generator for my CFC implementation and just want an opinion: Should private variables be documented? Right now I've got three Access types for properties: Public: These properties exist in the this scope. They can be accessed publicly or via special generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). These are open, public properties Abstract: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined in my system such that they can be accessed via the generic getter/setter functions (or, of course, via custom getter/setters). In other words they're public (sort of) but abstracted via getter/setter methods. Static: These properties exist in the variables scope. They are defined such that they can accessed via the generic getter but NOT the generic setter. (Of course there's no way to stop you from building a custom setter. Also Static structs or queries, being passed by reference are also updatable outside the component instance.) These are read-only properties (as long as you don't create a custom setter). They are abstracted through the generic getter method but no the setter. I'm considering adding Private which would also be in the variables scope but would not be accessible by the generic getter/setter at all. However they would be available to ancestor components. These would be useful really only for documentation. Also many of them are not available until the component init() method has been run (so if and extended component failed to run super.init() then they might not be available at all). If you were reading documentation on CFCs, would you want to see them or not? I've already made the decision to display private methods in the docs (as they're definitely available and useful to ancestors) but I'm torn about private properties... (Please note that I'm not very familiar with Java either - I think that the names I've choosen are close to their Java meanings - or not in conflict at all - but I'm not sure. If the access names used strike you as really stupid please recommend something different... I spent way too long trying to come up with descriptive labels for this stuff. ;^) ) Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199388 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Reg Ex Help
First, I think you want ([^']*?) instead of (.*)?. You want to non-greedily match everything but single quotes, right? Also, keep in mind that this will do two things you're probably not anticipating. First, it will only replace one set of double-equals per set of single quotes. Secondly, it's not really reading nested quotes, so 'this is in quotes' this == is not 'this is again' will come back with the not-in-quotes double-equals replaced. HTH --Ben Brook Davies wrote: Can any one help me with this regEx. It is supposed to replace any == character sequences found inside single quotes with =. This regEx, supplied by someone on this list works partially and replaces the final == correctly but missed the first instance. Can anyone see why? cfset tempString = [CONFERENCE] == 'OPTION A == FULL CONFERENCE PACKAGE' OR [CONFERENCE] == '69 == this price' cfoutput pre#tempString#/pre pre#REReplace(tempString, '(.*)?==(.*)?', '\1=\2', ALL)/pre /cfoutput Brook ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFC Documentation - document private variables?
I've emailed Spike with some alterations/improvements to it (mainly regex) and he said that others have added to it as well and he's behind in updating it. Expect an open source version to be posted by him as soon as he gets a moment (at least that's what I remember from his email). There was a thread on this a week or three back about documenting method access and the like. This was before my 3 hour CFC-OO presentation. :) Now that I have to post. You probably already know about this but spike has a really cool tool called cfcdoc that scans your cfcs and make documentation for them. It even works real time IIRC http://www.spike.org.uk/projects/cfcdoc/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199390 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Best, Fastest, Cleanest, Most Elegant way to determine if your in an application?
-Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 2:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best, Fastest, Cleanest, Most Elegant way to determine if your in an application? (My CFCs store metadata about themselves - if they're called in an application they store it the application scope, if they're called outside of an application they store it in the server scope.) Why don't they store it in their 'variables' scope, so it's internal? That way the burden of picking the right scope to store the info in rests solely on the shoulders of the app developer, who will know whether application or server is more appropriate. The data stored is specific to a CFC class. So while I might have over a hundred instances of cfc_Depressedpress.Framework.DP_Session I only have one metadata cache for all of them. Also building the metadata can be time-consuming the first time through while referencing a memory-cache is insignificant. Basically using the variables scope would just be to slow and wasteful. However there is a reference to the metadata cache in each CFC's variables scope. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199391 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFC Documentation - document private variables?
-Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 2:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFC Documentation - document private variables? You probably already know about this but spike has a really cool tool called cfcdoc that scans your cfcs and make documentation for them. It even works real time IIRC http://www.spike.org.uk/projects/cfcdoc/ Yes - and it's very impressive. I've just never really liked the JavaDoc style and many aspect of my CFCs aren't represented by it. One thing, at least: my property definitions would never show up. Also my broker components and such would never be referenced. Besides - just because somebody's made a perfectly good wheel doesn't mean you can't make a... well... perfectly good wheel. ;^) All of my CFCs extend a common root component. I'd like that root component to be able to collect meta data from itself and construct an XML packet representing all of the documentation elements. Then I can apply whatever formatting to that packet I like. In the end this will only really work for CFCs created in my style but for those CFCs it will offer (I hope!) a lot more information. Spike's code is obviously much more versatile in that it can do any CFC at all - but that's just not what I'm looking for right now. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199392 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFC Documentation - document private variables?
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFC Documentation - document private variables? I've emailed Spike with some alterations/improvements to it (mainly regex) and he said that others have added to it as well and he's behind in updating it. Expect an open source version to be posted by him as soon as he gets a moment (at least that's what I remember from his email). There was a thread on this a week or three back about documenting method access and the like. This was before my 3 hour CFC-OO presentation. :) Now that I have to post. I don't think it was recent - but Spike's thingie has always been open source from what I remember. I know it has been for the past 6 months or so at least. Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199393 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
