Displaying records at particular time interval

2005-05-04 Thread simmyana a
Hi,
  i have a query which retrieves thousands of records from the database and it 
is very time consuming query.Is there a way to display few records at a 
particular time interval. say..if query retrieves about 25000 records, is there 
a way to display about 100 records at a particular time interval so that user 
need not have to wait for long time to view the information

I tried using  but it is of not help...

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Re: Basic web interface question

2005-05-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
I work on a lot of sites, such as church sites, where users
have very little to no experience manipulating data through
a web interface and I always give them confirmation that their
action was completed.

It's very comforting to them...in the same way that a confirmation
that a payment I make online was accepted and processed
correctly.

I also provide a link back to the same page they arrived from
to allow for further data changes.  Links right in the confirmation
text provides easy access to the most likely steps the user
will take when using the interface, e.g. "Click here to add
another announcement."  Because most likely, they're adding
multiple announcements, and this saves *them* extra steps
in using the app.  More work for me, but a better more comfortable
experience for them, which I've found, when moving people from
software-based applications to web applications is critical in their
acceptance of the "different" experience of constantly page-changing
web apps.  It takes some getting used to...

(Personally, I can't wait until a more "intuitive" way to build RIA's
comes into being...Flash Interface...Blech...and I do timeline editing
and animation for video production all the time...)

My design patterns simply cater to the users of the app...that's what
brings more business...happy users who relate their experience to
other potential clients...

Rick


 From: "Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:23 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Basic web interface question 

Either option 1 or a confirmation page... "Your updates have been saved" 
with a redirect to the original list page.

I generally try to use something that keeps the architecture to a minimum 
and the user's experience very straightforward. If that means some extra 
work for me, that's fine because it generally results in a more optimal 
experience for the user.

Something I've been thinking a lot about lately is the fact that too often 
we try to save work for ourselves... what's the point? It's great to keep 
development time down (and especially on-budget) but if the net effect 
reduces the pleasantness of the user's experience, I see myself as having 
failed miserably. It goes back to the ideas presented in a post on Hal 
Helms's blog about his frustrations with phone support at a hotel chain. If 
the user ends up frustrated or confused the time spent on development is a 
total waste.

Laterz,
J

On 5/4/05, Dave Merrill wrote:
> 
> It's not like I haven't done this before, in various ways, but I might as
> well ask as long as I'm rethinking life...
> 
> Say you have the very normal situation with search screen leading to a 
> list
> of records, drill in to edit or create one. Where do you take the user 
> when
> they save an edited record?
> 
> - Back to the record list, with their previous search criteria still in
> place? That seems most intuitive, but it means hanging on to those search
> criteria while editing, which is potentially a multiple-screen wizard-like
> thing. Not impossible by any means, but an architectural commitment, if
> you're thinking generically.
> 

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Re: Basic web interface question

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Either option 1 or a confirmation page... "Your updates have been saved" 
with a redirect to the original list page.

I generally try to use something that keeps the architecture to a minimum 
and the user's experience very straightforward. If that means some extra 
work for me, that's fine because it generally results in a more optimal 
experience for the user.

Something I've been thinking a lot about lately is the fact that too often 
we try to save work for ourselves... what's the point? It's great to keep 
development time down (and especially on-budget) but if the net effect 
reduces the pleasantness of the user's experience, I see myself as having 
failed miserably. It goes back to the ideas presented in a post on Hal 
Helms's blog about his frustrations with phone support at a hotel chain. If 
the user ends up frustrated or confused the time spent on development is a 
total waste.

Laterz,
J

On 5/4/05, Dave Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It's not like I haven't done this before, in various ways, but I might as
> well ask as long as I'm rethinking life...
> 
> Say you have the very normal situation with search screen leading to a 
> list
> of records, drill in to edit or create one. Where do you take the user 
> when
> they save an edited record?
> 
> - Back to the record list, with their previous search criteria still in
> place? That seems most intuitive, but it means hanging on to those search
> criteria while editing, which is potentially a multiple-screen wizard-like
> thing. Not impossible by any means, but an architectural commitment, if
> you're thinking generically.
> 



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Dynamic data sources for Excel in ColdFusion MX

2005-05-04 Thread Daniel Kang
I am trying to connect an Excel file.  I have tried
http://www.emerle.net/programming/display.cfm/t/cfx_excel2query, but
it does not work for me.  Is there another way to connect to Excel
files on the CF Server?

tia

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RE: Column Header Sorting - WDDX

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Taavon, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Column Header Sorting - WDDX
> 
> Anyone ever implement Column Header Sorting using WDDX? If so, some
> sample code would be cool.

If you mean client-side I'm not sure why you'd need WWDX?

I do this client-side in JavaScript using my obCollectionOrdered JavaScript
object:

http://www.depressedpress.com/depressedpress/Content/Development/JavaScript/
Extensions/ObCollectionOrdered/Index.cfm

Essentially I create a JavaScript object to represent the elements of the
list (one object per row).  You then throw all of those elements into an
obCollectionOrdered instance.

You can then loop over the instance to display the table.  Trigger the
collection's "sortByProp()" method to sort on any property of the member
objects - your columns presumably.

The provided example shows a select box - the creation, looping and sorting
methods would be the same for any object.

Jim Davis




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RE: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Davis
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:28 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: New Development Libraries
> >
> > Like I said, I'm not an attorney and I find reading those
> > long technical legal documents rather daunting. I appreciate
> > the clarifications. I wish attorneys could write in plain
> > English that we can all understand.

I wish that the development libraries I started this thread about got as
much interest as the license they were released under.  ;^)

Jim Davis





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Re: CF Version # after Updater

2005-05-04 Thread Rey Bango
Thanks Steven & Robert.

Rey...


- Original Message - 
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To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: CF Version # after Updater


>> How can I tell if the CFMX 6.1 Updater has been installed?
>
> See:
>
> http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=alias&alias=buildnumbers
>
> 

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Re: cfgrid on cfmx7

2005-05-04 Thread Jon Gunnip
Simon,

Just to clarify,

In IIS, 
1) I have an IP restriction on /cfide so that it (and all its
children) can only be viewed by localhost.
2) I override 1) for /cfide/scripts and /cfide/classes so that all web
users can access those directories (and all their children)

I hope that makes sense.

Jon

On 5/4/05, Simon Whittaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon,
> 
> Thanks - I will give this a try tomorrow, I think it would make sense
> to not require all those directories to be present in every site that
> requires a cfgrid though?
> 
> S
> 
> On 04/05/05, Jon Gunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Simon,
> >
> > I have cfgrid working on CF7 with IIS.  I have done an IP restriction
> > to localhost for all directories except classes and scripts.  Perhaps
> > you need to open up the scripts directory too?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On 5/4/05, Simon Whittaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi There,
> > >
> > > I have come across something using cfgrid on a new install of cfmx7
> > > which I currently evaluating. I have performed a clean install of
> > > cfmx7 on win2k server which resulted in a /cfide virtual directory
> > > being created in IIS, in this directory were all the directories
> > > normally associated (ie administrator etc). I firstly attempted to
> > > create a cfide directory and then create a virtual directory called
> > > classes pointing to the dir in c:inetpub but this resulted in no data
> > > being passed from the form to the action page. I then attempted to
> > > restrict access to every folder except classes using IP filtering but
> > > again no data was submitted from the form.
> > >
> > > I do not want my cfadministrator dir available from anywhere except
> > > localhost and would therefore see this as a bug - can anyone else
> > > verify/advise me on this?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CF Version # after Updater

2005-05-04 Thread Steven Erat
> How can I tell if the CFMX 6.1 Updater has been installed?

See: 

http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=alias&alias=buildnumbers

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RE: Scheduled Task Listing

2005-05-04 Thread Tom Kitta
Hello,

The simplest solution is to loop over all tasks and see whatever its on of
yours. To do this define a list with all your task names. Then when you loop
over the task in your code don't display them right away, but have an if
statement that checks whatever a task is one of yours or not.

TK
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Scheduled Task Listing


Is there a way to show the scheduled task for a particularly named task?

Say, I name all my tasks "Scheduled Task (variable number)"

How would I display all of the tasks with the name that started with
the words "Scheduled Task"?

I have this so far, but I am on a shared server and other people's tasks are
showing up and I only want to display the ones for the application I created
that names them "Scheduled Task 1, Scheduled Task 2" etc...

Here is what I use to display currently scheduled tasks:



How do I discriminate between mine and everyone else's on the server?

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RE: Spam:CF Version # after Updater

2005-05-04 Thread Robert Redpath
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18515



From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Spam:CF Version # after Updater



Guys,

How can I tell if the CFMX 6.1 Updater has been installed?

Rey...



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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Calvin Ward
There's that 'real' thing again.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> It's not that CFM should be taught as the first langauge.
> just simply that it should be shown to students as an option.

I think I've mentioned it here in the past, the local community college
here has a web application development course where they teach ASP &
PHP.  The webmaster (a few years ago) didn't consider CF a "real"
language was it was "just" an "extension" on top of Java so you might as
well just use Java, right?  That belief is very prevelant and MM are
missing out a great deal by not marketing against it.  If you can teach
someone that they can create their database, do a simple cfquery then
cfoutput loop they'll be happy, and even more-so when you show them
cfqueryparam and explain they can avoid many security problems using it.


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RE: Interface for Net Send

2005-05-04 Thread Ewok

IP: 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Interface for Net Send

I am trying to build a simple interface so that I can use the dos Net
Send command to immediately send a message to an end user. Has anyone on
the list done this already so I am not reinventing the whee?

CF 6.1, W2K3

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RE: OT-Unix grep

2005-05-04 Thread Ewok
Heh I thought I was the only one who ever found humor in that.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: OT-Unix grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Okay kind of an odd thing here. I am trying to use grep to search through
files for a string. I and hen just wnat the file name that there was a match
for, then I am writing the reuslts to CF web page. Now I can eaisly grep the
string but I am simpky want the file name not the actual line for the string
found. so Right now I am doing the following:
> 
> grep foo *.*

You can use grep to grep the grep manpage for the right syntax:

man grep | grep ' -'

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CF Version # after Updater

2005-05-04 Thread Rey Bango
Guys,

How can I tell if the CFMX 6.1 Updater has been installed?

Rey...

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Re: Column Header Sorting - WDDX

2005-05-04 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Anyone ever implement Column Header Sorting using WDDX? If
> so, some sample code would be cool.

Do you mean for a search/list page? And if so, what is it you hope to
accomplish by applying WDDX -- a) that the columns will be sortable b)
that search criteria will be saved while sorting columns or c)
something else all-together?


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Re: Basic web interface question

2005-05-04 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Other ideas?

I've seen a number of applications which take the user back to the
form page for the item being edited with a status message at the top.
I've never much cared for this approach either... In my own
applications I tend to send the user back to the list page (typically
not a "search" page, just a sortable list that's optionally paginated
based on their user preferences -- these pages can become search pages
pretty easily because the framework automates filters on their
columns, so I can automatically get all the contacts with "bob"
somewhere in their name by typing &membername=bob into the url.) I
don't like the idea of the popup for the editor either, but then I
don't consider it a big loss that the list page isn't filtered to
display their item. When I'm working (and this may be a bit bigoted of
me because my habbits are based on my own work habbits), I'm not
generally interested in keeping tabs on the application after entering
or updating a record. I hit the save/update/submit button and then
_immediately_ go do something else. If the update operation didn't
work or didn't work properly, I'll find that out later on. That is of
course unless I happen to be testing a form update feature.


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RE: OT: Live Chat Service

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Aebig
Or if need be... theres a few Flashcom developers that can easily put
something together for you.

Also, Flash has the capability to use XML sockets. With quite a few open
source XML socket servers, this is quite an attractive alternative thats not
only cross-platform, but easily implemented.

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Live Chat Service


And of course there are hosted flashcom chat services with systems
already built:

http://www.userplane.com/

-nathan strutz

Burns, John D wrote:
> I am not sure how much of this I've missed, but Flash Communication Server
has an example of a live chat.  If you can't swing FCS, I know there are
some places out there that you can subscribe to that give you the code for
the flash file to embed into your page and it uses their Flash Communication
Server to do the chatroom through.  I can't remember the name of the place I
saw that did this, but googling may help or other people on this list might
be able to help.
>
> John
>
> 
>
> From: Jann E. VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Live Chat Service
>
>
>
> Be aware that if you do NOT plan to use Windoze for your console, you
> will narrow your choices.  We had a system where we wanted the operator
> on a Mac & Boldchat didn't support this.
>
> Mark Drew wrote:
>
>
>>Not sure if its the same thing but I used Boldchat which was a chat on
>>your website kind of thing?
>>
>>http://www.boldchat.com/
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:57:44 -0600, Eric Hoffman
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Blah monday to everyone...
>>>
>>>Do any of you have experience with a live chat service and can recommend
one?  Paid is fine, figuring free doesn't exist.  I know of Live Person, but
looking for others as well and experiences.  Hopefully this question helps
several folks out there.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: cfgrid on cfmx7

2005-05-04 Thread Simon Whittaker
Jon,

Thanks - I will give this a try tomorrow, I think it would make sense
to not require all those directories to be present in every site that
requires a cfgrid though?

S

On 04/05/05, Jon Gunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon,
> 
> I have cfgrid working on CF7 with IIS.  I have done an IP restriction
> to localhost for all directories except classes and scripts.  Perhaps
> you need to open up the scripts directory too?
> 
> Jon
> 
> On 5/4/05, Simon Whittaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I have come across something using cfgrid on a new install of cfmx7
> > which I currently evaluating. I have performed a clean install of
> > cfmx7 on win2k server which resulted in a /cfide virtual directory
> > being created in IIS, in this directory were all the directories
> > normally associated (ie administrator etc). I firstly attempted to
> > create a cfide directory and then create a virtual directory called
> > classes pointing to the dir in c:inetpub but this resulted in no data
> > being passed from the form to the action page. I then attempted to
> > restrict access to every folder except classes using IP filtering but
> > again no data was submitted from the form.
> >
> > I do not want my cfadministrator dir available from anywhere except
> > localhost and would therefore see this as a bug - can anyone else
> > verify/advise me on this?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> 
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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> It's not that CFM should be taught as the first langauge.
> just simply that it should be shown to students as an option.

I think I've mentioned it here in the past, the local community college
here has a web application development course where they teach ASP &
PHP.  The webmaster (a few years ago) didn't consider CF a "real"
language was it was "just" an "extension" on top of Java so you might as
well just use Java, right?  That belief is very prevelant and MM are
missing out a great deal by not marketing against it.  If you can teach
someone that they can create their database, do a simple cfquery then
cfoutput loop they'll be happy, and even more-so when you show them
cfqueryparam and explain they can avoid many security problems using it.


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Scheduled Task Listing

2005-05-04 Thread WebStop Internet Services
Is there a way to show the scheduled task for a particularly named task?

Say, I name all my tasks "Scheduled Task (variable number)"

How would I display all of the tasks with the name that started with 
the words "Scheduled Task"?

I have this so far, but I am on a shared server and other people's tasks are
showing up and I only want to display the ones for the application I created
that names them "Scheduled Task 1, Scheduled Task 2" etc...

Here is what I use to display currently scheduled tasks:



How do I discriminate between mine and everyone else's on the server?

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RE: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
And move over a piece at a time and test.  Maybe if you can duplicate side
by side...
 

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Subject: Re: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're
the Right CF Expert for the Job

Hate to say, but how about moving back to the old servers, to give you time 
to work on the new servers and figure out the problem?
I would then re-format the drive on the new server, and install windows and 
cf again..  then run diagnostics on the new disks.. then test it for a few 
days to see what happens. Make sure the cf settings  are the same.
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Basic web interface question

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Merrill
It's not like I haven't done this before, in various ways, but I might as
well ask as long as I'm rethinking life...

Say you have the very normal situation with search screen leading to a list
of records, drill in to edit or create one. Where do you take the user when
they save an edited record?

- Back to the record list, with their previous search criteria still in
place? That seems most intuitive, but it means hanging on to those search
criteria while editing, which is potentially a multiple-screen wizard-like
thing. Not impossible by any means, but an architectural commitment, if
you're thinking generically.

- Another way to manage a similar net effect would be to open the edit
screen in a new window, and have it close and refresh the list window when
done. That's what I've often done, but some users find the new window thing
confusing, particularly if it comes up maximized and they don't even realize
it's a new window.

- Back to the search screen? Kind of annoying if it didn't remember their
search criteria, so see above.

- Back to the record list, but with only that one record showing? Not
particularly functional.

Other ideas?

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Re: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Matt Robertson
Are you flagging long-running templates in CFAdmin?  I assume you 

I seriously doubt this is hardware related, although of course
anything is possible.  Looks to me like a CF setting wasn't set up the
same.  OR the odbc connection is the point of failure (either the
network issue you mention or the new db server itself has issues).

I assume you looked for that stupid variable name to see what its
context is.  If the name is used 1 times you won't get much but if
its used once or thrice you may learn a lot.  Probably you're way
ahead of me on that.

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Good news on the solving part... sometimes that's all one really wishes to 
achieve.

I'll let you know if I find anything on my end...

J

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> 
> I rewrited all the code and I'm not using cflogin structure anymore
> (with j_username and j_password). Also, I deleted all classes in cfclass
> directory and have a 
>   before the cflogin block.
> 
> We're running some tests, but I believe it's "solved" by now, although
> the specific bug wans't discovered.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Clint Tredway
I had a client with the same issue... after all was said and done, the
only thing that fixed this was moving to CF 6.1 - using the same code,
the server stopped crashing..

On 5/4/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Lakanen wrote:
> > As of yesterday, I've got a client who recently moved both their web
> > server and their database server to bigger, more beefy servers and now
> > they can't keep their web site running.
> >
> > It is ColdFusion-driven (version 5) and is mostly (if not entirely)
> > powered by a content mangement system called ActiveMatter.
> >
> > ColdFusion is dying several times a day and is being re-started.  Web
> > site visitors are getting frustrated and the client just wants it all fixed.
> >
> > We're getting a variety of errors including CFLOCK's timing out and
> > references to
> > CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654321.
> 
> Do you have configuration details of the old setup? Was it
> running on CF 5 before? Have there been any changes to the
> automatic locking settings for shared scopes?
> 
> >   - Their web site traffic has been steadily growing (thousands of
> > visitors per day) and they may have reached a tipping point whereby
> > thier dynamic, database-driven system can't handle the load.
> 
> I don't buy it. They would have had issues at peak time before
> and they just moved to bigger hardware.
> 
> Jochem
> 
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ColdFusion/Java/JSP error

2005-05-04 Thread Ian Skinner
If I'm getting an error such as:

Error: "com/crystaldecisions/report/web/viewer/CrPrintMode" is either a 
misplaced package name or a non-existent entity.

Is my computer looking for this file somewhere on itself or possible across the 
internet?  If the latter, how would one modify a CF service in J2EE 
configuration on top of a full Jrun to user a different user, since the default 
local system user would not have permission through the network firewall to the 
internet.



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Re: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Al Musella, DPM
Hate to say, but how about moving back to the old servers, to give you time 
to work on the new servers and figure out the problem?
I would then re-format the drive on the new server, and install windows and 
cf again..  then run diagnostics on the new disks.. then test it for a few 
days to see what happens. Make sure the cf settings  are the same.
If that fails, try installing the current version of cf.. it may show 
better error messages.

At 04:46 PM 5/4/2005, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>Peter Lakanen wrote:
> > As of yesterday, I've got a client who recently moved both their web
> > server and their database server to bigger, more beefy servers and now
> > they can't keep their web site running.
> >
> > It is ColdFusion-driven (version 5) and is mostly (if not entirely)
> > powered by a content mangement system called ActiveMatter.
> >
> > ColdFusion is dying several times a day and is being re-started.  Web
> > site visitors are getting frustrated and the client just wants it all 
> fixed.
> >
> > We're getting a variety of errors including CFLOCK's timing out and
> > references to
> > 
> CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654321.


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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Keith Gaughan wrote:
> Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>> 
>> The GPL requires that you provide the source code of every 
>> application that incorporates or links a GPL licensed library to 
>> everybody that has obtained a compiled version from you without 
>> limits on change, use or redistribution other then the GPL itself.
> 
> There's one little proviso that many people miss out here.
> 
> You can still use GPLed libraries in commercial apps without releasing
> your source just as long as the GPLed libraries and the commercial
> code don't touch. There's a few ways in which this can be done. These
> depend on forms of loose coupling, making the result a mere aggregation
> as opposed to a derivative work.
> 
> Dynamic Linking
> ===

> Aside: The GPL FAQ disagree with me on this.

I think that is an important disclaimer. You might also want to 
check the current interpretation of linking as for instance MySQL 
uses it. The fact that the latest MySQL/J drivers are not in CF 
MX 7 and similar comments from NewAtlanta would not make me sleep 
better. (Not that I use MySQL if I can avoid it.)


> Thunking Layers
> ===
> 
> You write a small wrapper library that talks to the GPLed code. Dynamic
> Linking is a variant of sorts on this, but in this case you're doing
> everything manually rather than automatically, and the GPLed code will
> still probably be statically linked anyway. You then license the wrapper
> library under a suitable GPL-compatible license, such as the BSD license
> or LGPL.

It might work that way in some places. But in the US you might 
want to check if you have not created a copyright circumvention 
device illegal under the DMCA.


>> The GPL is often called 'viral' because using a little bit of GPL 
>> code in an application 'infects' the rest of the application. The 
>> LGPL does not have this problem. But it is important to recognize 
>> that nobody can force you to give away your sourcecode. If you 
>> don't adhere to the GPL you are violating IP law and somebody 
>> might claim damages, but the law does not recognise "open-source 
>> your own code" as a remedy.
> 
> OTOH, it doesn't need to recognise it. Licenses are part of contract
> law, and its under contract law that the arguments would be made.

But because it is contract law only the party you have the 
contract with can enforce it. So if the person you sell your 
application which incorporates GPL code wants the source, they 
can not claim the GPL entitles them to it. Only the writer of the 
GPL code can claim that.


> PS. Jochem, you don't mind if I post this on my blog, do you?

No.

Jochem

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Re: cfgrid on cfmx7

2005-05-04 Thread Jon Gunnip
Simon,

I have cfgrid working on CF7 with IIS.  I have done an IP restriction
to localhost for all directories except classes and scripts.  Perhaps
you need to open up the scripts directory too?

Jon

On 5/4/05, Simon Whittaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I have come across something using cfgrid on a new install of cfmx7
> which I currently evaluating. I have performed a clean install of
> cfmx7 on win2k server which resulted in a /cfide virtual directory
> being created in IIS, in this directory were all the directories
> normally associated (ie administrator etc). I firstly attempted to
> create a cfide directory and then create a virtual directory called
> classes pointing to the dir in c:inetpub but this resulted in no data
> being passed from the form to the action page. I then attempted to
> restrict access to every folder except classes using IP filtering but
> again no data was submitted from the form.
> 
> I do not want my cfadministrator dir available from anywhere except
> localhost and would therefore see this as a bug - can anyone else
> verify/advise me on this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Simon
> 
> 

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Matthew Small
Why should CF be used as an option in a Computer Science curriculum over
such languages as Java or C#?

There is no reason at all.  Beginning students do start out with procedural
programming, just to learn the basics - primitive datatypes (int, float,
char, string) and operators.  They learn how to manipulate a single piece of
data (string or number) and then groups of data using the array.  The entire
time, they are not worried about form structures, variables passing out of
scope, request/response, or anything that is common to internet programming.
Furthermore, they do worry about datatypes and proper operations on those
datatypes. 

They learn compilation, execution, and the difference between interpretation
and compilation.

Later on, objects and structures come into play.  Still data manipulation is
focused on - not what the language is, or its idiosyncrasies. Furthermore,
data output is usually limited to console, command-line output - not Windows
or web pages, just line by line.  Later on, file output is done and bit
manipulation at the file level is learned.

Pointers and direct memory management come into play as well, and must be
used to accomplish later assignments.

The students use the same language they started with from beginning to end,
unless the instructor allows advanced students to pick their language.  I
chose to use VB 6.0 to write a compiler that blew away the rest of my class
but simply because it looked good and they didn't know how to write in a
visual language, not because it was so different than theirs.  A competent
student doesn't need to be taught another programming language in order to
start using it.

CF does not accomplish most of what needs to be learned in a CS environment.
It's a tool for writing web pages on internet/intranet.  It gets the job
done, depending on the job. 

CF does many things for you - precisely why a curriculum shouldn't use it.
It's why people can learn CF without knowing the nuts and bolts of
programming.  It's also why those people don't get past CF.  I'm not even
sure it should be an option in that curriculum.

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Column Header Sorting - WDDX

2005-05-04 Thread Taavon, James
Anyone ever implement Column Header Sorting using WDDX? If so, some
sample code would be cool. 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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cfgrid on cfmx7

2005-05-04 Thread Simon Whittaker
Hi There,

I have come across something using cfgrid on a new install of cfmx7
which I currently evaluating. I have performed a clean install of
cfmx7 on win2k server which resulted in a /cfide virtual directory
being created in IIS, in this directory were all the directories
normally associated (ie administrator etc). I firstly attempted to
create a cfide directory and then create a virtual directory called
classes pointing to the dir in c:inetpub but this resulted in no data
being passed from the form to the action page. I then attempted to
restrict access to every folder except classes using IP filtering but
again no data was submitted from the form.

I do not want my cfadministrator dir available from anywhere except
localhost and would therefore see this as a bug - can anyone else
verify/advise me on this?

Cheers

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Re: Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Peter Lakanen wrote:
> As of yesterday, I've got a client who recently moved both their web 
> server and their database server to bigger, more beefy servers and now 
> they can't keep their web site running.
> 
> It is ColdFusion-driven (version 5) and is mostly (if not entirely) 
> powered by a content mangement system called ActiveMatter.
> 
> ColdFusion is dying several times a day and is being re-started.  Web 
> site visitors are getting frustrated and the client just wants it all fixed.
> 
> We're getting a variety of errors including CFLOCK's timing out and 
> references to 
> CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654321.

Do you have configuration details of the old setup? Was it 
running on CF 5 before? Have there been any changes to the 
automatic locking settings for shared scopes?


>   - Their web site traffic has been steadily growing (thousands of 
> visitors per day) and they may have reached a tipping point whereby 
> thier dynamic, database-driven system can't handle the load.

I don't buy it. They would have had issues at peak time before 
and they just moved to bigger hardware.

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Re: Encrypting JDBC

2005-05-04 Thread Nathan Mische
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

--Nathan

On 5/4/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is it possible to encrypt the JDBC connection between
> > ColdFusion and the database server?
> >
> > I'm using CFMX 7 Standard and MS SQL Server 2000.
> 
> Yes. Microsoft recommends using SSL for encrypting database connections;
> this is supported within MS SQL Server 2000. However, I don't think the
> DataDirect driver supports SSL - most JDBC Type 4 drivers don't, for various
> reasons. At least, according to the DataDirect site, they don't support it
> yet:
> 
> http://knowledgebase2.datadirect.com/kbase.nsf/26536a530e20a22b85256e550079a
> fc2/b3be2051e6ca6cdb85256ec100500d22?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,ssl
> 
> The free jTDS driver (http://jtds.sourceforge.net/) does, according to its
> documentation, but I haven't worked much with jTDS yet.
> 
> Alternatively, you might use a VPN or IPSec tunnel, as Damien suggested.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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> 
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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Bryan Stevenson
>>> someone who just picked up a copy of the WACK and went to town
> 
> Oh nice, so now *I'm* going to get blamed. ;-)

LOL...I was waiting for that one ;-)

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Bryan Stevenson
aggghhh!

Doesn't anybody but me get what dave (not Dave W.) is saying!!!

It's not that CFM should be taught as the first langauge.just simply 
that it should be shown to students as an option.

"Today in class boys and girls we are going to have a look at CFML, PHP, and 
ASP as examples of languages to use for the web.  Here's how you process a 
form in each and mail the results to someone"

This is radically different that what Micha/Massimio/Dave W are on about.  I 
think we'd all agree to what you bunch are saying..."CF is not to be used as 
an example of proper programming"...but that ain't what Dave the disruptor 
is on about ;-)

Cheers

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Rick Mason
Calvin,
 In a word yes. I think ColdFusion offers a better introduction to 
programming than PHP.
 Even Adobe can't go toe to toe with Microsoft in marketing CF to 
corporations. Macromedia always said that CF was a "bottom up" product.
 Well I can't think of a better way to get CF in the back door of 
corporations than to introduce it to thousands of college students. I refuse 
to believe that it will cripple them from going on to learn OOP and advanced 
languages. 
   Rick Mason


 On 5/4/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Effectively, you seem to be saying that education establishments should be
> teaching CF instead of PHP?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
> 
> Micha,
> With all due respect I wasn't advocating if you read my message that they
> only learn CFML.
> Most of the university students in Michigan leave knowing several
> languages, of course they should know c# and java if they're to become
> employable.
> I remain unconvinced that learning CF first is going to somehow handicap
> them in learning advanced languages. In fact I think it's just the 
> opposite,
> 
> the quick productivity building useful stuff is likely to inspire them as
> they learn advanced subjects.
> A great many programmers of my generation first tackled the basic that IBM
> shipped on the first PC XT's. Somehow using things like GoTo's didn't
> prevent me from going on to learn other languages with more advanced
> concepts.
> I still remain convinced that CF would be a great first language in
> colleges and with a little effort it could be dominant in that role.
> Rick Mason
> 
> On 5/4/05, Micha Schopman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I disagree, in the least because the job opportunities for C, C++, C#
> > and Java are much and much larger than those for CF developers.
> >
> > Second, with C# or Java you learn to work with true OOP in a much more
> > advanced environment then CF will ever be. If you for example look at
> > protection levels for every action you take, it will force you to think
> > about the architecture of your application in a way CF will probably
> > never reach.
> >
> > Even then, I don't know how this is in the US, but here university level
> > schools don't really focus on the programming languages, but they focus
> > more on managing a software creation process, writing technical and
> > functional documentation, diagrams, architectures, release management,
> > and then there comes programming.
> >
> > It is nice if students can get a copy of CF cheaper with a school
> > license, but to let schools teach CF, rather not. Every Java developer
> > can program CF, not every CF programmer can do Java.
> >
> > Micha Schopman
> > Project Manager
> >
> > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
> > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> > KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OT: Live Chat Service

2005-05-04 Thread Nathan Strutz
And of course there are hosted flashcom chat services with systems 
already built:

http://www.userplane.com/

-nathan strutz

Burns, John D wrote:
> I am not sure how much of this I've missed, but Flash Communication Server 
> has an example of a live chat.  If you can't swing FCS, I know there are some 
> places out there that you can subscribe to that give you the code for the 
> flash file to embed into your page and it uses their Flash Communication 
> Server to do the chatroom through.  I can't remember the name of the place I 
> saw that did this, but googling may help or other people on this list might 
> be able to help.
>  
> John
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jann E. VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Live Chat Service
> 
> 
> 
> Be aware that if you do NOT plan to use Windoze for your console, you
> will narrow your choices.  We had a system where we wanted the operator
> on a Mac & Boldchat didn't support this.
> 
> Mark Drew wrote:
> 
> 
>>Not sure if its the same thing but I used Boldchat which was a chat on
>>your website kind of thing?
>>
>>http://www.boldchat.com/
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:57:44 -0600, Eric Hoffman
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Blah monday to everyone...
>>>
>>>Do any of you have experience with a live chat service and can recommend 
>>>one?  Paid is fine, figuring free doesn't exist.  I know of Live Person, but 
>>>looking for others as well and experiences.  Hopefully this question helps 
>>>several folks out there.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Fabio Terracini
I rewrited all the code and I'm not using cflogin structure anymore 
(with j_username and j_password). Also, I deleted all classes in cfclass 
directory and have a   
   before the cflogin block.

We're running some tests, but I believe it's "solved" by now, although 
the specific bug wans't discovered.

Thanks,

Fabio Terracini



Fabio Terracini wrote:

>Thanks Jared. I also tried your modifications in cflogin block, but 
>didn't work.
>
>The sessions seems to be working fine. I still think it's something with 
>cflogin tag, and it's totally ridiculous to lost time with such a simple 
>tag. Oh my...
>
>I'm almost changing the login architecture, dismissing cflogin tag and 
>make an authentication system based only on sessions variables.
>
>--
>Thanks!
>
>Fabio Terracini
>
>
>
>Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Fabio,
>>
>>I suggest you give onSessionEnd a try... if for no other reason that to 
>>write a few log file entries. Maybe not permanently, but at least while 
>>troubleshooting. I think that what's happening is this: while J2EE sessions 
>>promise some nice things, they're not quite working correctly. :)
>>
>>What else... cflogin doesn't run if there's a logged in use...
>>
>>Oh, Fabio... use LOTS of CFLOG tags... I first had to use a TON of them to 
>>get some quirks out of CFMX 6.1 code for cflogin. Log pass/fail, 
>>before/after, anywhere you can trap the difference between one state and 
>>another, log it.
>>
>>And you might want to use >len(getAuthUser())> instead of ... it reverses 
>>your logic a bit, but it should still work. I also don't include the form 
>>inside cflogin. I use  to 
>>include the login form and  inside 
>>my cflogin tag.
>>
>>Maybe later I can send you my cflogin code...
>>
>>Laterz,
>>J
>>
>>On 5/4/05, Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>Really odd!
>>>
>>>Jared, I'm not using onSessionStart, neither onSessionEnd. The
>>>Application.cfc only contains the application variables 
>>>(this.name, 
>>>etc)
>>>and onRequestStart method, which includes the cflogin block. Should I
>>>use onSessionEnd? When the browser close, both login and sessions are
>>>ended anyway.
>>>
>>>I did some test, setting output=yes on onRequestStart, and tracing
>>>weather block of code is beeing executed or not. When the problem
>>>occurs, the user doesn't enter the cflogin block as it should, which is
>>>weird, since he isn't logged in. If he was logged, the login form won't
>>>display: the user will enter the system directly.
>>>
>>>Anyway, just a thought: the problem seems to be with cflogin, since when
>>>the user tries to login again, he doesn't enter the cflogin block. This
>>>is way session variables aren't beeing setted. This is fine. But, why
>>>ain't enterting the cflogin block?
>>>
>>>As I said - and you suggested - in the login form, and also before
>>>logging in, I loged out (cflogout), cleaned session (and cookies too)
>>>variables to ensure the user isn't logged in in anyway. Didn't worked out.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>--
>>>
>>>Fabio Terracini
>>>
>>>
>>>Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Ooops, missed a part of the message from Fabio... yeah, it's a bit odd.

Fabio, are you using onSessionStart and onSessionEnd events to control 
 



>>>your
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
sessions? Really, what you should be doing is using onSessionEnd to clean 
 



>>>up
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
your session when it times out instead of detecting problems later and
trying to work around them.

Laterz,
J

On 5/4/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 



>You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is 
>   
>
>  
>
>>>very
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>weird.
>
>
>
>   
>
>  
>

 



>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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RE: RDS restricted by IP?

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
>  Is posible to restrict RDS to one or list of IP's?
>  in CFMX and CFMX 7..
> 
>   any idea about to perform this?

Not within CF itself, to the best of my knowledge. However, RDS requests use
a single URL pattern, "/CFIDE/Main/ide.cfm", which you may be able to use to
limit access from within your web server's configuration. If you're using
CFMX with IIS, this will be a bit difficult, since CFMX installs an ISAPI
filter (in IIS 5) or an ISAPI wildcard extension (in IIS 6), and those
things will parse URL requests and route them to CF before the regular web
server software kicks in to do its thing. I'm not sure how this would work
on Apache.

Alternatively, you might try using a servlet filter to help you with this:
http://www.servletsuite.com/servlets/ipflt.htm

I think that's the approach I'd try first.

You might want to submit this to MM as a feature request, actually.

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RE: OT: Live Chat Service

2005-05-04 Thread Burns, John D
I am not sure how much of this I've missed, but Flash Communication Server has 
an example of a live chat.  If you can't swing FCS, I know there are some 
places out there that you can subscribe to that give you the code for the flash 
file to embed into your page and it uses their Flash Communication Server to do 
the chatroom through.  I can't remember the name of the place I saw that did 
this, but googling may help or other people on this list might be able to help.
 
John



From: Jann E. VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Live Chat Service



Be aware that if you do NOT plan to use Windoze for your console, you
will narrow your choices.  We had a system where we wanted the operator
on a Mac & Boldchat didn't support this.

Mark Drew wrote:

>Not sure if its the same thing but I used Boldchat which was a chat on
>your website kind of thing?
>
>http://www.boldchat.com/
>
>
>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:57:44 -0600, Eric Hoffman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
>>Blah monday to everyone...
>>
>>Do any of you have experience with a live chat service and can recommend one? 
>> Paid is fine, figuring free doesn't exist.  I know of Live Person, but 
>>looking for others as well and experiences.  Hopefully this question helps 
>>several folks out there.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>
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RDS restricted by IP?

2005-05-04 Thread David Manriquez
 Hi ppl.

 Is posible to restrict RDS to one or list of IP's?
 in CFMX and CFMX 7..

  any idea about to perform this?

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RE: Encrypting JDBC

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Is it possible to encrypt the JDBC connection between 
> ColdFusion and the database server?
> 
> I'm using CFMX 7 Standard and MS SQL Server 2000.

Yes. Microsoft recommends using SSL for encrypting database connections;
this is supported within MS SQL Server 2000. However, I don't think the
DataDirect driver supports SSL - most JDBC Type 4 drivers don't, for various
reasons. At least, according to the DataDirect site, they don't support it
yet:

http://knowledgebase2.datadirect.com/kbase.nsf/26536a530e20a22b85256e550079a
fc2/b3be2051e6ca6cdb85256ec100500d22?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,ssl

The free jTDS driver (http://jtds.sourceforge.net/) does, according to its
documentation, but I haven't worked much with jTDS yet.

Alternatively, you might use a VPN or IPSec tunnel, as Damien suggested.

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RE: Spam:RE: Newsletter Software

2005-05-04 Thread Robert Redpath
Thanks for the info.  (...no, no - that is not a "bug" it is a "feature" - HA)
 
I'll test it out and let you know how it goes.
 
Thanks,
Bob



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Subject: Spam:RE: Newsletter Software



Note that you can now download it for free off of cfopen.org.

It has a bug whereby you will need to re-upload rw/security.cfm after 
installing (I plan on fixing it eventually).

If you try it and run into any other problem, let me know.

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> http://www.cftagstore.com/?page=viewtag&tagId=84  cftagstore.com/?page=viewtag&tagId=84>



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RE: Google Maps

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Troxel
You might want to look at their NEW toolbar beta.

Not only does it find an address on a page (you might use
that link in your quest),
But it also adds a free spell check for any web form.

Terry 

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Subject: Google Maps

Does anyone know if google offers an API to integrate there
map software?






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Re: Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 5/4/05, Al Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/4/05, Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) Turn off trusted cache
> > 2) Copy out your files and run the new pages so CF compile them, etc.
> > 3) Turn on trusted cache
> >
> > No need to restart your server at all in my experience.
> 
> Sounds simple enough. I just know that there are circumstances where
> one or more templates that's been changed will be very rarely touched
> and will be hard to get to in normal testing. I guess I was hoping
> there was a way I could just clear the cache so CF will just treat all
> pages as new and will compile them. Would deleting my .class files
> accomplish such a thing? (I've got CFMX 6.1 and 7 installations here.)
> 

Well CF 7 has an option in the Administrator under "Caching" to "Clear
Template Cache Now". That should take care of that. However, as far as
6.1 goes, it would make sense that blowing away the class files would
force a re-compile, though I've not tried that specifically. Depending
on the size of your site though, that might be overkill if it's just a
few templates you're updating. Further, if you do go ahead an manually
delete the cache in 6.1, make sure you blow away the files in the
*cfclasses* directory and not the *classes* directory!

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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Will do!

Connie DeCinko wrote:
> Let us know when you get your site up and running with it.  The demo store
> on the web site is confusing as it shows too many layout options at once.
> I'm curious to see it running with a real store.
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement
> 
> Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
> this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
> written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
> and the functionality.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
You can delete the .class files but only while the service is stopped.
Otherwise CF will barf looking for files it assumes are still there.
 

-Original Message-
From: Al Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Trusted Cache

Sounds simple enough. I just know that there are circumstances where
one or more templates that's been changed will be very rarely touched
and will be hard to get to in normal testing. I guess I was hoping
there was a way I could just clear the cache so CF will just treat all
pages as new and will compile them. Would deleting my .class files
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RE: Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Sounds simple enough. I just know that there are 
> circumstances where one or more templates that's been changed 
> will be very rarely touched and will be hard to get to in 
> normal testing. I guess I was hoping there was a way I could 
> just clear the cache so CF will just treat all pages as new 
> and will compile them. Would deleting my .class files 
> accomplish such a thing? (I've got CFMX 6.1 and 7 installations 
> here.)

No, the trusted cache is a memory cache; the only way I know to flush it
entirely is to stop and start the service. There may be a way to flush the
cache through the undocumented and unsupported serviceFactory API or the
CFMX 7 administrative API that I don't know about, however.

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
Let us know when you get your site up and running with it.  The demo store
on the web site is confusing as it shows too many layout options at once.
I'm curious to see it running with a real store.
 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
and the functionality.




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Re: Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Al Everett
On 5/4/05, Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) Turn off trusted cache
> 2) Copy out your files and run the new pages so CF compile them, etc.
> 3) Turn on trusted cache
> 
> No need to restart your server at all in my experience.

Sounds simple enough. I just know that there are circumstances where
one or more templates that's been changed will be very rarely touched
and will be hard to get to in normal testing. I guess I was hoping
there was a way I could just clear the cache so CF will just treat all
pages as new and will compile them. Would deleting my .class files
accomplish such a thing? (I've got CFMX 6.1 and 7 installations here.)

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Re: Google Maps

2005-05-04 Thread Adam Haskell
Not yet as far as I know...but its in beta so who knows...if you
append output=XML to thier URLs though it will give you and XML
document..might be useful...


Adam H

On 5/4/05, Chad McCue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if google offers an API to integrate there map software?
> 
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Re: OT: Live Chat Service

2005-05-04 Thread Jann E. VanOver
Be aware that if you do NOT plan to use Windoze for your console, you 
will narrow your choices.  We had a system where we wanted the operator 
on a Mac & Boldchat didn't support this.

Mark Drew wrote:

>Not sure if its the same thing but I used Boldchat which was a chat on
>your website kind of thing?
>
>http://www.boldchat.com/
>
>
>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:57:44 -0600, Eric Hoffman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Blah monday to everyone...
>>
>>Do any of you have experience with a live chat service and can recommend one? 
>> Paid is fine, figuring free doesn't exist.  I know of Live Person, but 
>>looking for others as well and experiences.  Hopefully this question helps 
>>several folks out there.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
Not very impressed.  Layout of items is poor.  Admin screens not easy to
view.  Needs work to make it usable.
 

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Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

As far as an Ecommerce store, you really can't go wrong with CartWeaver:

http://www.cartweaver.com/




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
and the functionality.

Connie DeCinko wrote:
> How long have you been using it?  I started back with version 3, which was
> pretty sloppy code.  I hear the later version is much better, although uses
> Fusebox.  I've got too much custom code in mine to upgrade.  Someday I plan
> to rebuild from scratch.
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement
> 
> Time for me to plug CFWebstore.
> 
> http://www.cfwebstore.com
> 
> Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Gaughan
Jochem van Dieten wrote:

> The GPL requires that you provide the source code of every 
> application that incorporates or links a GPL licensed library to 
> everybody that has obtained a compiled version from you without 
> limits on change, use or redistribution other then the GPL itself.

There's one little proviso that many people miss out here.

You can still use GPLed libraries in commercial apps without releasing
your source just as long as the GPLed libraries and the commercial
code don't touch. There's a few ways in which this can be done. These
depend on forms of loose coupling, making the result a mere aggregation
as opposed to a derivative work.

Dynamic Linking
===

Pretty obvious is this one. The GPLed code is in a seperate library
and is only linked into your app at compile time. Examples of this
would be kernel modules and drivers in Linux (which itself is GPLed),
DLLs and SOs, jar files (so long as your compiled class files are
in one jar and the GPLed code is in another).

Aside: With Java and similar languages, the issue of subclassing comes
up. In this case, if you subclass a GPLed class, your class is a 
derivative work and therefore subject the GPL. Interfaces, I believe,
are a different matter.

Aside: The GPL FAQ disagree with me on this. However, the GPL, if my
reading is correct, says nothing that disallows what I've stated above.
The reason for this is that when you dynamically link to a library, you
leave hooks there for the dynamic linker to resolve. Supposing even a
wholly hypothetical library, equivalent in functionality to the GPLed
one, that is licensed in such a way as to allow redistribution without
the kind of restrictions as the GPLed library and can be dropped in
in place of the GPLed library for the dynamic linker to resolve the
hooks at runtime without needing a recompile of your program, then that
your program is dynamically linked to a GPLed library at run time is
more an artifact of the system it's running on rather than something
inherent to your program, rendering it a mere aggregation rather than
a derivative work. Phew, that was a long sentence!

Thunking Layers
===

You write a small wrapper library that talks to the GPLed code. Dynamic
Linking is a variant of sorts on this, but in this case you're doing
everything manually rather than automatically, and the GPLed code will
still probably be statically linked anyway. You then license the wrapper
library under a suitable GPL-compatible license, such as the BSD license
or LGPL.

How this gets away with it in a legal sense is that the fact the wrapper
library depends on a GPLed library is simply an implementation detail of
that library and not one that your app depends on. You can, for
instance, use a completely different library, and modify the wrapper
library's implementation without it affecting your code.

This is the safest option. If you want to be extra safe, dynamically
link your wrapper library rather than statically linking it to the
GPLed library might be your best bet.

As an example of this. Say the expat XML parser was covered by the GPL
(it's not, but bear with me). A few years back, I wrote a rather neat
class in C++ to act as a wrapper around it. It used a bunch of static
private methods as callbacks, and a pointer to the instance in question
as the userData. Say I release this class and make it available under
the LGPL, BSD license or some other GPL-compatible license.

Now I go and write some app that uses this class and release it
commercially. My app depends on the wrapper class, but on expat only
as an implementation detail of the wrapper class. I could just as
easily recode the wrapper class to use libxml2, msxml, or some other
parser.

> The GPL is often called 'viral' because using a little bit of GPL 
> code in an application 'infects' the rest of the application. The 
> LGPL does not have this problem. But it is important to recognize 
> that nobody can force you to give away your sourcecode. If you 
> don't adhere to the GPL you are violating IP law and somebody 
> might claim damages, but the law does not recognise "open-source 
> your own code" as a remedy.

OTOH, it doesn't need to recognise it. Licenses are part of contract
law, and its under contract law that the arguments would be made.

The GPL is a contract that states that if you create a derivative
work of a piece of software covered by the GPL and distribute the
derivative work, you must make the source code of the derivative
work available upon request.

K.

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Re: Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 5/4/05, Al Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, my mind is apparently slipping.
> 
> I understand that the Trusted Cache setting can give significant
> performance gains because CF is not checking for a newer version of
> CFML to compile for each page request.
> 
> But let's say I have made CFML changes and I need the server to start
> using them.
> 
> Can I simply stop and start ColdFusion?
> 
> Or to I need to:
> 
> 1. Turn off trusted cache
> 2. Stop ColdFusion
> 3. Start ColdFusion
> 4. Turn on trusted cache
> 

C) None of the above.

You would do:

1) Turn off trusted cache
2) Copy out your files and run the new pages so CF compile them, etc.
3) Turn on trusted cache

No need to restart your server at all in my experience.

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
How long have you been using it?  I started back with version 3, which was
pretty sloppy code.  I hear the later version is much better, although uses
Fusebox.  I've got too much custom code in mine to upgrade.  Someday I plan
to rebuild from scratch.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

Time for me to plug CFWebstore.

http://www.cfwebstore.com

Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!




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2005-05-04 Thread Chad McCue
Does anyone know if google offers an API to integrate there map software?



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RE: Encrypting JDBC

2005-05-04 Thread Damien McKenna
I would suggest doing a VPN instead, if possible.  Windows includes its
own VPN system or you might want to try http://www.openvpn.net/ which is
multi-platform.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Mische [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Encrypting JDBC
> 
> Is it possible to encrypt the JDBC connection between ColdFusion and
> the database server?


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RE: JSP equivalent of

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
Going backwards are we?  Next you'll be asking how to pedal your car?
 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: JSP equivalent of 

HI,

Does anyone on this know of the JSP equivalent of .  I have to
convert a CF page to JSP and I am stuck on this tag.

Thanks
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Re: Encrypting JDBC

2005-05-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
http://www.google.com/search?q=jdbc+encryption

Looks like it's probably doable, but not a built-in feature that you
can just click a checkbox for.

cheers,
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On 5/4/05, Nathan Mische <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to encrypt the JDBC connection between ColdFusion and
> the database server?
> 
> I'm using CFMX 7 Standard and MS SQL Server 2000.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Nathan

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Trusted Cache

2005-05-04 Thread Al Everett
Okay, my mind is apparently slipping.

I understand that the Trusted Cache setting can give significant
performance gains because CF is not checking for a newer version of
CFML to compile for each page request.

But let's say I have made CFML changes and I need the server to start
using them.

Can I simply stop and start ColdFusion?

Or to I need to:

1. Turn off trusted cache
2. Stop ColdFusion
3. Start ColdFusion
4. Turn on trusted cache

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Encrypting JDBC

2005-05-04 Thread Nathan Mische
Is it possible to encrypt the JDBC connection between ColdFusion and
the database server?

I'm using CFMX 7 Standard and MS SQL Server 2000.

Thanks,

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RE: Newsletter Software

2005-05-04 Thread Steve Bryant
Note that you can now download it for free off of cfopen.org.

It has a bug whereby you will need to re-upload rw/security.cfm after 
installing (I plan on fixing it eventually).

If you try it and run into any other problem, let me know.

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> http://www.cftagstore.com/?page=viewtag&tagId=84  cftagstore.com/?page=viewtag&tagId=84>

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Have A Client with A Specific Need. Read On to See If You're the Right CF Expert for the Job

2005-05-04 Thread Peter Lakanen
As of yesterday, I've got a client who recently moved both their web 
server and their database server to bigger, more beefy servers and now 
they can't keep their web site running.

It is ColdFusion-driven (version 5) and is mostly (if not entirely) 
powered by a content mangement system called ActiveMatter.

ColdFusion is dying several times a day and is being re-started.  Web 
site visitors are getting frustrated and the client just wants it all fixed.

We're getting a variety of errors including CFLOCK's timing out and 
references to 
CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654321.

I was brought in to consult on it just yesterday and my early 
prognosis/theory is the problem is due to one of two things (or both):

  - Still mostly unknown (to me) differences between the original system 
architecture and the new.  For example, I know there used to be a 
separate network connection between the web server and the database 
server, but they removed it in the new configuration because they didn't 
think it was needed.  It's not clear to me how many other decisions like 
this were made.

  - Their web site traffic has been steadily growing (thousands of 
visitors per day) and they may have reached a tipping point whereby 
thier dynamic, database-driven system can't handle the load.

Right now, this is total triage work -- akin to fixing the car engine 
while you're driving down the road.

Ideally, I'd like to find someone who is familiar with the ActiveMatter 
system who can provide some recommendations on how to analyze and/or 
scale the system.

If you think you can provide some assistance, please contact me off list 
directly.  FYI, I get the list in digest form and won't see your 
response to the list for six hours.

Thanks!

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Fabio Terracini
Thanks Jared. I also tried your modifications in cflogin block, but 
didn't work.

The sessions seems to be working fine. I still think it's something with 
cflogin tag, and it's totally ridiculous to lost time with such a simple 
tag. Oh my...

I'm almost changing the login architecture, dismissing cflogin tag and 
make an authentication system based only on sessions variables.

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Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:

>Fabio,
>
>I suggest you give onSessionEnd a try... if for no other reason that to 
>write a few log file entries. Maybe not permanently, but at least while 
>troubleshooting. I think that what's happening is this: while J2EE sessions 
>promise some nice things, they're not quite working correctly. :)
>
>What else... cflogin doesn't run if there's a logged in use...
>
>Oh, Fabio... use LOTS of CFLOG tags... I first had to use a TON of them to 
>get some quirks out of CFMX 6.1 code for cflogin. Log pass/fail, 
>before/after, anywhere you can trap the difference between one state and 
>another, log it.
>
>And you might want to use len(getAuthUser())> instead of ... it reverses 
>your logic a bit, but it should still work. I also don't include the form 
>inside cflogin. I use  to 
>include the login form and  inside 
>my cflogin tag.
>
>Maybe later I can send you my cflogin code...
>
>Laterz,
>J
>
>On 5/4/05, Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Really odd!
>>
>>Jared, I'm not using onSessionStart, neither onSessionEnd. The
>>Application.cfc only contains the application variables 
>>(this.name, 
>>etc)
>>and onRequestStart method, which includes the cflogin block. Should I
>>use onSessionEnd? When the browser close, both login and sessions are
>>ended anyway.
>>
>>I did some test, setting output=yes on onRequestStart, and tracing
>>weather block of code is beeing executed or not. When the problem
>>occurs, the user doesn't enter the cflogin block as it should, which is
>>weird, since he isn't logged in. If he was logged, the login form won't
>>display: the user will enter the system directly.
>>
>>Anyway, just a thought: the problem seems to be with cflogin, since when
>>the user tries to login again, he doesn't enter the cflogin block. This
>>is way session variables aren't beeing setted. This is fine. But, why
>>ain't enterting the cflogin block?
>>
>>As I said - and you suggested - in the login form, and also before
>>logging in, I loged out (cflogout), cleaned session (and cookies too)
>>variables to ensure the user isn't logged in in anyway. Didn't worked out.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>--
>>
>>Fabio Terracini
>>
>>
>>Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ooops, missed a part of the message from Fabio... yeah, it's a bit odd.
>>>
>>>Fabio, are you using onSessionStart and onSessionEnd events to control 
>>>  
>>>
>>your
>>
>>
>>>sessions? Really, what you should be doing is using onSessionEnd to clean 
>>>  
>>>
>>up
>>
>>
>>>your session when it times out instead of detecting problems later and
>>>trying to work around them.
>>>
>>>Laterz,
>>>J
>>>
>>>On 5/4/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is 


>>very
>>
>>
weird.





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
On 5/4/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> People seem to be in the habit of comparing Macromedia's stewardship of CF
> to the "good ol' days" of Allaire. Well, Allaire had how many products? 
> One,
> really, unless you count Allaire Forums and Spectra - both of which were
> handled poorly, in my opinion. Oh, I forgot JRun - but neither Allaire nor
> Macromedia really push that at all, they just used it to build a bunch of
> other products.


Uh... Jrun? What's that?

Heh... really, now, boys and girls... Flash/Flex/Central/FlashLite/Flash 
Mobile/FlashPaper and friends. Jrun/CFMX/WPS... Dreamweaver, and Studio MX 
2k4 (which, btw, still includes, by special request, HS+ for us old-school 
hacks)... RoboDemo/RoboHelp and friends... Breeze...

Breeze now has the footing to compete with WebEx and the like.
CFMX now has the technological underpinnings to really give traditional J2EE 
and .NET a run for the money in the Enterprise.
Flex has one competitor, which admittedly r0x0rs, and is free, which means 
that CF/PHP and Flex/OpenLazlo are decent analogies.

These things indicate growth. These things indicate momentum. These things 
are signs that we're on the right track and really shouldn't be wasting time 
and resources bickering about front-page real estate at MM.com. 
I know I'm blending a couple threads here, but first of all, free CFMX would 
mean that those who chose BD over CFMX because of the free edition would 
have more choice, that I would have been able to do at least a dozen more 
projects than I have in the last year (duh, why didn't I use BD? Dunno... 
cuz I'm a nitwit I guess.) and those n00bs who use PHP cuz it's free would 
have their teeth ripped out. I know of several colleges that offer CFMX 
classes as electives, not part of a CSci program, and that's a fine idea. I 
never had a CS class in my life... and I've had to struggle a lot. But, in 
point of fact, it all comes down to market penetration, leverage, and money.

As for the screen real estate issue at MM.com... I seriously think that to 
proclaim to the world that a lack of front-page real estate is a sign of 
MM's mindset is overreaching yourself a bit, dude... back up a bit and let 
them speak for themselves. It's a little pushy to be proclaiming what they 
think for them.

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Fabio,

I suggest you give onSessionEnd a try... if for no other reason that to 
write a few log file entries. Maybe not permanently, but at least while 
troubleshooting. I think that what's happening is this: while J2EE sessions 
promise some nice things, they're not quite working correctly. :)

What else... cflogin doesn't run if there's a logged in use...

Oh, Fabio... use LOTS of CFLOG tags... I first had to use a TON of them to 
get some quirks out of CFMX 6.1 code for cflogin. Log pass/fail, 
before/after, anywhere you can trap the difference between one state and 
another, log it.

And you might want to use  instead of ... it reverses 
your logic a bit, but it should still work. I also don't include the form 
inside cflogin. I use  to 
include the login form and  inside 
my cflogin tag.

Maybe later I can send you my cflogin code...

Laterz,
J

On 5/4/05, Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Really odd!
> 
> Jared, I'm not using onSessionStart, neither onSessionEnd. The
> Application.cfc only contains the application variables 
> (this.name, 
> etc)
> and onRequestStart method, which includes the cflogin block. Should I
> use onSessionEnd? When the browser close, both login and sessions are
> ended anyway.
> 
> I did some test, setting output=yes on onRequestStart, and tracing
> weather block of code is beeing executed or not. When the problem
> occurs, the user doesn't enter the cflogin block as it should, which is
> weird, since he isn't logged in. If he was logged, the login form won't
> display: the user will enter the system directly.
> 
> Anyway, just a thought: the problem seems to be with cflogin, since when
> the user tries to login again, he doesn't enter the cflogin block. This
> is way session variables aren't beeing setted. This is fine. But, why
> ain't enterting the cflogin block?
> 
> As I said - and you suggested - in the login form, and also before
> logging in, I loged out (cflogout), cleaned session (and cookies too)
> variables to ensure the user isn't logged in in anyway. Didn't worked out.
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> 
> Fabio Terracini
> 
> 
> Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
> 
> >Ooops, missed a part of the message from Fabio... yeah, it's a bit odd.
> >
> >Fabio, are you using onSessionStart and onSessionEnd events to control 
> your
> >sessions? Really, what you should be doing is using onSessionEnd to clean 
> up
> >your session when it times out instead of detecting problems later and
> >trying to work around them.
> >
> >Laterz,
> >J
> >
> >On 5/4/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is 
> very
> >>weird.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Get the shit out of your eyes, you simpleton.

While this wasn't directed at me, this kind of response really isn't called
for. Personally, when I want to insult someone on a mailing list, I try to
reach for the rapier rather than the cudgel, if you know what I mean.

> I did not say that I thought CF would die. On the contrary, I 
> stated that I believed the MM would still invest time and 
> resources into CFMX.
> 
> After spending tons of $$$ on a "WORLD TOUR", why the hell 
> would Macromedia NOT highlight the release on their website? 
> Why spend the money on creating awareness and then not put it 
> front and center on release day (and instead leave a 
> WEEKS old banner for Flash video)?
> 
> The speedometer graphic was lame and insufficient, and is 
> reflective of the internal view of CFMX. That's all.
> 
> Riddle me this: why would RedSky get decent attention when it 
> was released? I remember a nice banner and decent info about 
> that release. 
> If I recall, the groundbreaking release of those awesome 
> "FireFly" flash components got more attention at MM.com!.

Well, we can all speculate on this until the cows come home, but why bother?
If you believe that MM will still invest time and resources into CFMX, why
not just let them choose how they want to handle advertising? What does
their "internal view of CFMX" matter, as long as they still invest the
appropriate time and resources into the product? Why do you think you're
more qualified to run their marketing than they are? They have a lot of
diverse products, and a similarly diverse audience of potential and actual
customers. Don't you think that they would spend more time pushing CF if
they thought that this would be more profitable than pushing something else?

People seem to be in the habit of comparing Macromedia's stewardship of CF
to the "good ol' days" of Allaire. Well, Allaire had how many products? One,
really, unless you count Allaire Forums and Spectra - both of which were
handled poorly, in my opinion. Oh, I forgot JRun - but neither Allaire nor
Macromedia really push that at all, they just used it to build a bunch of
other products.

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RE: OT SQL Builder

2005-05-04 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> What is a good, free, program that can access various 
> datasources and let you build and test SQL taking into 
> account being fairly decent at SQL coding myself?

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Collections Insight

2005-05-04 Thread Robert Orlini
Can someone give me a clear idea of how the Verity Collections work?

I have CF 5.0 and have setup a collection that points to a sub-directory such 
as "manuals/windows" I want to be able to search that sub-directory. However, 
when I do a search it does not find the page I want that has the specific 
information. The info I want to search is: "A30.09". The actual page exists in 
the windows sub-folder of the manuals folder, but I don't get the direct page, 
I get a file in the manuals folder that points to the page in the windows 
folder.

The collections is setup in via the CFAdmin and I have "Recursively Index Sub 
Directories" checked off.
Please help...

Robert O.

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OT SQL Builder

2005-05-04 Thread Greg Johnson
What is a good, free, program that can access various datasources and 
let you build and test SQL taking into account being fairly decent at 
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RE: Crystal Reports on CFMX 6.1/7

2005-05-04 Thread Ian Skinner
If you want to server up a Crystal Report with  I believe you would 
need CR installed.   In CFMX7  can also be used for the new 
ColdFusion reports created with the built in report generator.

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=1476.htm";>
Creating reports with Crystal Reports (Windows only)

When running on Windows, the cfreport tag also supports the execution of 
reports created using Crystal Reports version 9 or 10.

Note: When you install Crystal Reports, you must select the Enable export to 
HTML and Enable export to Disk options. These options are not enabled by 
default, so you must use the Custom Install option.
To invoke a Crystal Report report definition using the cfreport tag:

   1. Create a report definition in Crystal Reports.
   2. Create a CFM page and add a cfreport tag that invokes the Crystal Reports 
report definition. The following example shows the cfreport tag invoking a 
Crystal Reports report definition and passing a filter condition:


 {Departments.Department} = 'International'


   3. Open a browser and display the CFM page.

Tip: ColdFusion MX uses COM to call Craxdrt9.dll for Crystal Reports version 9, 
and Craxdrt.dll for Crystal Reports version 10. If you have problems with the 
cfreport tag, ensure that these DLLs are registered and, if not, use regsvr32 
to register them (the default location for these DLLs is C:\Program 
Files\Crystal Decisions\Report Designer Component\).

For complete information on defining reports in Crystal Reports, see the 
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I didn't think Crystal Reports was needed on the server to use the
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RE: Crystal Reports on CFMX 6.1/7

2005-05-04 Thread Damien McKenna
I didn't think Crystal Reports was needed on the server to use the
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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Stan Winchester wrote:

>> Like I said, I'm not an attorney and I find reading those
>> long
>> technical legal documents rather daunting. I appreciate
>> the
>> clarifications. I wish attorneys could write in plain
>> English
>> that we can all understand.

> Ah, but if they did, they wouldn't have jobs anymore. :o)


I remember hearing actually that there had been a lot of litigation
over the idea that they should write contracts in plain english...
wouldn't surprise me... it would of course prove that for every
common-sense idea there's an attorney waiting for "the ambulance".


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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Fabio Terracini
Really odd!

Jared, I'm not using onSessionStart, neither onSessionEnd. The 
Application.cfc only contains the application variables (this.name, etc) 
and onRequestStart method, which includes the cflogin block. Should I 
use onSessionEnd? When the browser close, both login and sessions are 
ended anyway.

I did some test, setting output=yes on onRequestStart, and tracing 
weather block of code is beeing executed or not. When the problem 
occurs, the user doesn't enter the cflogin block as it should, which is 
weird, since he isn't logged in. If he was logged, the login form won't 
display: the user will enter the system directly.

Anyway, just a thought: the problem seems to be with cflogin, since when 
the user tries to login again, he doesn't enter the cflogin block. This 
is way session variables aren't beeing setted. This is fine. But, why 
ain't enterting the cflogin block?

As I said - and you suggested - in the login form, and also before 
logging in, I loged out (cflogout), cleaned session (and cookies too) 
variables to ensure the user isn't logged in in anyway. Didn't worked out.

Thanks,
--

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Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:

>Ooops, missed a part of the message from Fabio... yeah, it's a bit odd.
>
>Fabio, are you using onSessionStart and onSessionEnd events to control your 
>sessions? Really, what you should be doing is using onSessionEnd to clean up 
>your session when it times out instead of detecting problems later and 
>trying to work around them.
>
>Laterz,
>J
>
>On 5/4/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
>>weird.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
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RE: Crystal Reports on CFMX 6.1/7

2005-05-04 Thread Ian Skinner
I believe that is the easiest way to go.  Please note that the  tag 
will not work with reports that use CR Parameters.  This is a major limitation 
for us.


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Subject: Crystal Reports on CFMX 6.1/7

Hi,

Do i need to install the complete Crystal Reports 10 on the server to
user  as i currently have only got it working after doing so
(locally). Or is there just a couple of key componets (files) that
need installing??

Cheers

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Fabio Terracini
Oh yeah.

The cflogin block follows:








   


   
   















alert('Login inválido!');


   

   






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>You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
>weird. 
>
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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Fabio Terracini
Oh yeah.

The cflogin block follows:








   


   
   














alert('Login inválido!');


   

   






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>You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
>weird. 
>
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Crystal Reports on CFMX 6.1/7

2005-05-04 Thread Andy Jarrett
Hi,

Do i need to install the complete Crystal Reports 10 on the server to
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(locally). Or is there just a couple of key componets (files) that
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Cheers

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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dave Watts wrote:
>> Like I said, I'm not an attorney and I find reading those 
>> long technical legal documents rather daunting. I appreciate 
>> the clarifications. I wish attorneys could write in plain 
>> English that we can all understand.
> 
> Unfortunately, that's not a realistic option, for the same reason we
> programmers can't write programs in plain English that non-programmers can
> understand. Well, that's a slight oversimplification I guess, but it'll do
> for now. The law has specific terms of art with specific meanings, just like
> programming does.

And most of the time the law is easier to understand than 
technical documentation :)

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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
John, I've recently released a commercial PayPal integration kit for CFMX 
applications...

Check it out at http://www.web-relevant.com/PayPalMX

As far as an Ecommerce store, you really can't go wrong with CartWeaver:

http://www.cartweaver.com/

Laterz,
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> I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement. 
> Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much 
> sucks and they're having all kinds of problems. I, personally, would prefer 
> a CF store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
> needed. However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well. The requirements 
> for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
> Authorize.net  and Paypal for payments. Any 
> suggestions for or against any products would be appreciated.
> 
> John Burns



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RE: Newsletter Software

2005-05-04 Thread Robert Redpath
I was looking for a newsletter app as well with similar requirements.
 
I came across NetDispatch..
http://www.cftagstore.com/?page=viewtag&tagId=84 
 
 
Has anyone used it?  If so, how'd it work for you?  Any others you'd recommend?
 
Thanks, 
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Subject: Spam:Newsletter Software



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RE: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Like I said, I'm not an attorney and I find reading those 
> long technical legal documents rather daunting. I appreciate 
> the clarifications. I wish attorneys could write in plain 
> English that we can all understand.

Unfortunately, that's not a realistic option, for the same reason we
programmers can't write programs in plain English that non-programmers can
understand. Well, that's a slight oversimplification I guess, but it'll do
for now. The law has specific terms of art with specific meanings, just like
programming does.

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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Ooops, missed a part of the message from Fabio... yeah, it's a bit odd.

Fabio, are you using onSessionStart and onSessionEnd events to control your 
sessions? Really, what you should be doing is using onSessionEnd to clean up 
your session when it times out instead of detecting problems later and 
trying to work around them.

Laterz,
J

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> You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Stan Winchester wrote:
> 
> The reason I said "GPL infections" is because from my understanding the GPL 
> and even the L-GPL requires you provide source code to anyone who wants it, 
> and thereby “infects” the application. 

The GPL requires that you provide the source code of every 
application that incorporates or links a GPL licensed library to 
everybody that has obtained a compiled version from you without 
limits on change, use or redistribution other then the GPL itself.
Usually the no restrictions clause is the problem, not the source 
code itself. With CF you pretty much had to provide the source 
anyway, but no restrictions means the code could be ran on an 
arbitrary number of servers which requires an entirely different 
business model then just selling single server licenses.

The LGPL has the same requirement, but you only have to provide 
the source of the LGPL library itself, not of your own application.


The GPL is often called 'viral' because using a little bit of GPL 
code in an application 'infects' the rest of the application. The 
LGPL does not have this problem. But it is important to recognize 
that nobody can force you to give away your sourcecode. If you 
don't adhere to the GPL you are violating IP law and somebody 
might claim damages, but the law does not recognise "open-source 
your own code" as a remedy.

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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Time for me to plug CFWebstore.

http://www.cfwebstore.com

Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!

Burns, John D wrote:
> I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement.  
> Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much 
> sucks and they're having all kinds of problems.  I, personally, would prefer 
> a CF store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
> needed.  However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well.  The requirements 
> for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
> Authorize.net and Paypal for payments.  Any suggestions for or against any 
> products would be appreciated.
>  
> John Burns
> 
> 
> 

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Newsletter Software

2005-05-04 Thread Emmet McGovern
Does anyone have experience in bulk email solutions?  It would need HTML and
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A client of ours sends a 100,000+ newsletter out monthly and would like to
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Web based would be preferred, especially if it was in cf.

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Effectively, you seem to be saying that education establishments should be
teaching CF instead of PHP?

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Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Micha,
 With all due respect I wasn't advocating if you read my message that they 
only learn CFML.
 Most of the university students in Michigan leave knowing several 
languages, of course they should know c# and java if they're to become 
employable.
 I remain unconvinced that learning CF first is going to somehow handicap 
them in learning advanced languages. In fact I think it's just the opposite,

the quick productivity building useful stuff is likely to inspire them as 
they learn advanced subjects.
 A great many programmers of my generation first tackled the basic that IBM 
shipped on the first PC XT's. Somehow using things like GoTo's didn't 
prevent me from going on to learn other languages with more advanced 
concepts.
 I still remain convinced that CF would be a great first language in 
colleges and with a little effort it could be dominant in that role.
   Rick Mason

 On 5/4/05, Micha Schopman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> I disagree, in the least because the job opportunities for C, C++, C#
> and Java are much and much larger than those for CF developers.
> 
> Second, with C# or Java you learn to work with true OOP in a much more
> advanced environment then CF will ever be. If you for example look at
> protection levels for every action you take, it will force you to think
> about the architecture of your application in a way CF will probably
> never reach.
> 
> Even then, I don't know how this is in the US, but here university level
> schools don't really focus on the programming languages, but they focus
> more on managing a software creation process, writing technical and
> functional documentation, diagrams, architectures, release management,
> and then there comes programming.
> 
> It is nice if students can get a copy of CF cheaper with a school
> license, but to let schools teach CF, rather not. Every Java developer
> can program CF, not every CF programmer can do Java.
> 
> Micha Schopman
> Project Manager
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Re: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
All you're going to need is something like this:





In your logout page, run the cflogout tag, which does not error if there is 
no user logged in... and then something like this:








Now that's example code, and not really customized for CFC use... I 
generally start using page-scope code and then migrate it to CFC wrappers 
once I know it's doing what I want it to do.

HTH,
J

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> 
> You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
> weird.
> 



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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Maybe that was my problem... ;) I thought the WACK was a code dictionary. 
Hehe...

Really Ben, I don't think you'll ever know the depth of your impact on the 
CF community. Without the WACK I'm not sure it would have built up the user 
base in the early days to be what it is today. For me, and for years, your 
stuff was my only source of information.

Now I'm curious... has anyone hand-coded all the samples to create a running 
copy of Orange Whip Studios?

I must admit, I never did... :)

Laterz,
J

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> ROFL!
> 
> I think the WACK is actually rather good for best practices etc - as long 
> as
> people read the entire thing as they are supposed to.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
> 
> >> someone who just picked up a copy of the WACK and went to town
> 
> Oh nice, so now *I'm* going to get blamed. ;-)
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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Ken Ferguson
LOL, that's funny Ben, not what I meant at all though. The WACK makes it 
incredibly easy to be productive, even when people don't have much in 
the way of experience or knowledge.

--Ferg


James Holmes wrote:

>ROFL!
>
>I think the WACK is actually rather good for best practices etc - as long as
>people read the entire thing as they are supposed to.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:26 
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
>
>  
>
>>>someone who just picked up a copy of the WACK and went to town
>>>  
>>>
>
>Oh nice, so now *I'm* going to get blamed. ;-)
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:22 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
>
>You mean that's not OK??
>
>lol, yeah how many times have we all had to go back over things that were
>done by someone who just picked up a copy of the WACK and went to town.
>Hell, I'm sure I caused some problems for other developers back in the day
>when I was just getting started with version 3. I'm sure, try as I do, that
>I still cause some of those sorts of problem when I try to do complex PHP
>and ASP work that is above my level of proficiency.
>
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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-04 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> .and remember Micha...not all education happens at the university 
> levelthere are tech schools (no I won't debate the 
> quality of these 
> places) and colleges.  These places spit out an awful lot of 
> Internet career 
> minded folks...and alot of them come out with PHP experience 
> because it's 
> free and the schools run tight budgets.

The Adobe name could help get inroads in this market.  Imagine how many
technical / community colleges have graphic design courses solely
focused on Photoshop & Illustrator and throw in a web design course for
good measure.  Not imagine being able to tell people "in one extra
coures you'll be able to do shopping carts and other amazing things, all
using Adobe tools", that would get their attention.

Just my $0.02, having worked at a college business training department
for two years where they *used* to teach CF.

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Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Burns, John D
I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement.  
Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much sucks 
and they're having all kinds of problems.  I, personally, would prefer a CF 
store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as needed. 
 However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well.  The requirements for the 
software is that is support multiple stores and interface with Authorize.net 
and Paypal for payments.  Any suggestions for or against any products would be 
appreciated.
 
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RE: Weird problem with CFLOGIN and Session variables

2005-05-04 Thread James Holmes
You might have to post the contents of the cflogin block, as this is very
weird. 

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Re: New Development Libraries

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Gaughan
Stan Winchester wrote:

> Like I said, I'm not an attorney and I find reading those long
> technical legal documents rather daunting. I appreciate the
> clarifications. I wish attorneys could write in plain English
> that we can all understand.

Ah, but if they did, they wouldn't have jobs anymore. :o)

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RE: JSP equivalent of

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Does anyone on this know of the JSP equivalent of .  
> I have to convert a CF page to JSP and I am stuck on this tag.

You can use the appropriate Java library directly (java.net), but you might
be better served by using a JSP tag library like IO
(http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/intro.html)

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Re: defaultCharset not working

2005-05-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>on my development machine, which is Windows, it works without

>>problems.

What system is your server?
If it is Unix, don't forget that it is case sensitive and check how 
Application.cfm 
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