RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

2006-01-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, in a nutshell, I am not a fan of JRun; and the application has not had
any major updates since 2003.   I am installing on Tomcat locally as I will
be deploying our apps without JRun (I did not want to install Websphere or
BEA for this purpose locally.)






-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 January 2006 21:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

Just wondering why you are installing CF 7 on tomcat?  What benefits will
you have over running it on top of Jrun that comes with CF?

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Indeed,
 
 interestingis it me or is the Apache documentation a total mess?  Any
 help on installing this would be greatly appreciated! ;-p
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Ross
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: 16/01/2006 18:28
 Subject: Re: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Neil,
 
 As I mentioned offlist, if your sole motivation for fronting Tomcat w/
 Apache is performance, Tomcat now has the ability to use the native
 Apache libraries instead of the pure Java http connectors. All you have
 to do is place the APR (Apache Portable Runtime) somewhere in your
 system's path and Tomcat will use it. See here:
 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/apr.html
 
 -Dave
 
 Well, think I have sorted it.as dave noted to me, I installed Java
 1.4.2
 and the Tomcat compatibility kit and it all works AOK - on Tomcat..
 
 Next step is to get Apache HTTP and Tomcat talkinganyone have any
 success with that?
 
 N
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 January 2006 14:47
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Log all fineno idea what the next step is here...
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 January 2006 12:25
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 What's in the logs? (tomcat/logs/stdout.log if you are on windows).
 I've
 deployed CF7 on Tomcat no problem... it's pretty straightforward.
 
 -Dave
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am having problems with CF7 on Tomcat 5.5.12.  I have followed the
 install
 instructions outlined here
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/j2ee/cfmx7j2ee_tomcat_dep
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RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

2006-01-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Cause the thread is ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat; we are not in the position to
look at or run BD - we need to run CF.



-Original Message-
From: Aaron @ PM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 January 2006 21:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

If you are going to run CF 7 on Tomcat, why not save some money and run 
BlueDragon on it instead? BlueDragon is free for non-ssl use!

-Aaron

Russ wrote:

Just wondering why you are installing CF 7 on tomcat?  What benefits will
you have over running it on top of Jrun that comes with CF?

  

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson-
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

Indeed,

interestingis it me or is the Apache documentation a total mess?  Any
help on installing this would be greatly appreciated! ;-p





-Original Message-
From: Dave Ross
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 16/01/2006 18:28
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

Neil,

As I mentioned offlist, if your sole motivation for fronting Tomcat w/
Apache is performance, Tomcat now has the ability to use the native
Apache libraries instead of the pure Java http connectors. All you have
to do is place the APR (Apache Portable Runtime) somewhere in your
system's path and Tomcat will use it. See here:

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/apr.html

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RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

2006-01-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, in a nutshell, I am not a fan of JRun; and the application has not had
any major updates since 2003.   I am installing on Tomcat locally as I will
be deploying our apps without JRun (I did not want to install Websphere or
BEA for this purpose locally.)





-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 January 2006 21:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

Just wondering why you are installing CF 7 on tomcat?  What benefits will
you have over running it on top of Jrun that comes with CF?

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Indeed,
 
 interestingis it me or is the Apache documentation a total mess?  Any
 help on installing this would be greatly appreciated! ;-p
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: SpoolMail

2006-01-17 Thread Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
This brings back memories of something I used like that (copy from spool
to undelivr)  back in the days of CF4. I forgot what it was called, but
it actually used CFRegistry and the datestamp of the file to try it only
a few times, then move to another folder... Anyone else remember that?

-Dov

 
 

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SpoolMail

Very nice ray, now use the cfadmin CSS to make it look pretty too :-)
Another rhandy feature you could add to this, is a scheduled task to
just copy undelivered mail back into the spool automatically to deal
with mail that ends up there that shouldn't

We have done this with a windows service, but I guess it would be handy
to have it as part of the cfadmin.
 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 January 2006 23:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Ann: SpoolMail

Something has been bugging me for a while now and I finally got around
to fixiing it. Normally my CF boxes do not use a real mail server.
Therefore, to test my cfmail generated emails, I dig down to the
undelivered folder, wait for the mail, open it, try to read it, and
repeat if I made a formatting issue.

Today I wrote a little app called SpoolMail. It integrates with the CF
Admin to let you read the mail from the undelivered folder in a
hotmail/gmail type interface. You can then clean up (delete) the mail,
or move it to the spool if you choose.

More info may be found here:

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/1/16/Yet-another-project--ann
ounc
ing-SpoolMail

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Re: SpoolMail

2006-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden
The funny thing is - I never really intended it to be used to resend
per se. I just wanted a reader more than nanything else. It didn't
even have the 'move to spool' button tilll Nimer suggested it.

On 1/16/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very nice ray, now use the cfadmin CSS to make it look pretty too :-)
 Another rhandy feature you could add to this, is a scheduled task to just
 copy undelivered mail back into the spool automatically to deal with mail
 that ends up there that shouldn't
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Re: Anyone use AbleCommerce, CFMX version?

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Haskell
+1 and +1 to the other posts as well. Albecom was complete spaghetti code
prior to the mx version. It was the result of 4 versional upgrades by a team
and no rewrites. Modifying it is a mess and its a complete pain to rip out
chunks and replace them, simple projects got extended do to these things.
Then like I said the MX version is pretty much the classic Coldfusion for UI
java for the rest. I you know Java and are comfortable with OOP its not a
horrid mess to upgrade/modify, its a lot better than it used to be. If you
want a REAL cf shoppingcart though AbleCom MX is not the right product. I
believe AbleCom offers a developer license or something to evaluate it and
what not, evaluate it and have a look see, its not much CF...

Adam

On 1/16/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've used CFMX Able commerce... Here are a couple of notes..keep in mind
 this knowledge is about 20 months old :)


 1)  I'ts pointedly NOT a coldfusion application. By that I mean it takes
 no
 advantage of anything specifically coldfusion'ish.  The ap functions as a
 Java servlet with calls to and from the CF page. All the database
 interaction is controlled by the servlet and you have access to none of
 it.
 In fact, if you want to do something simple like add a field to a table
 you
 will find yourself working around this issue. Each request is passed to
 the
 servlet with the results returned from the servlet.


 2) Get used to array holder syntax - ACB for CFMX doesn't use query
 objects
 very much. Instead, the servlet loads Java Object 1 (a query pulled from a
 database) Into Java object 2 (an array holder build for this query).  Then
 it loops through it with traditional Java counter syntax.

 3) Because you are not involved in the database code you can't fine tune
 it.
 a store of ours had about 12 top categories and one of those had 40 or
 more
 subcategories with a total of 11000 items for sale.  The system called the
 entire data set (all 11000 items) when accessing every page from the top
 down. Then it looped through filtering out items that weren't in the
 category - no caching, no smarter queries pulling limited subsets of
 data just a big honkin query pulling the entire category with each
 query. Needless to say we did not find this scalable.

 4) Making changes to the display is problematic.  Since all the data
 stuff
 is wrapped up in the servelt you would think there was a logical
 separation - but the ACB engine uses custom templates that are controlled
 by
 the database and written to file. That means if you create a custom
 template
 you better figure out how to store it in the database or admin users who
 do
 something simple - like add a new link - will overwrite all your hard
 work.

 5) It's also overpriced for the feature set and the usuablility.

 In my view ACB hired a Java programmer to pretend to create a CFMX ap.
 There are no CFCs, no caching,  no cf queries, no query driven outputs, no
 custom tags nothing really CF about it. It could just as easily be
 JSP
 and it would suffer from no further usability issues. CF is just a
 wrapper
 class around the servlet.

 If you are going to use it out of the box as is - go for it.  If you
 plan
 to make any customizations (if I can borrow a line from Monty Python
 here...) run away.

 You would spend less to just pay Mary Jo to add the feature you want.

 -Mark


 -Original Message-
 From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:23 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Anyone use AbleCommerce, CFMX version?


 I would rather use CFWebstore, but my boss saw that AbleCommerce syncs up
 with a module (StoneEdge Order Manager) that he likes on our current
 shopping cart.

 Well, I can't speak much about AbleCommerce (being a competitor, it
 wouldn't
 have much value anyway). You are certainly welcome to ask on my CFWebstore
 email list as I do have a number of users that have previously used AC and
 would probably be willing to give an opinion and compare the 2 products as
 well. But one thing you might also want to consider is if it would be
 possible to integrate this product with CFWebstore as well. Generally it's
 just a matter of writing an XML export of the order details, not a real
 difficult thing to do, and something I could probably assist with if need
 be. The difference in cost for the two products alone might cover it.

 I usually tell people not to get too hung up on a single feature when
 evaluating shopping carts. So often you are going to have tweak and change
 any number of things, that unless something is a really major feature that
 will take a long time to code, you're better off looking for something
 that's going to have the best set of basic features that you need, and is
 easy to understand and modify so it won't be much hassle to get it to
 exactly what you want.


 
 Mary Jo Sminkey
 Author of CFWebstore, ColdFusion E-commerce software
 

RE: Purchasing CF MX Enterprise...

2006-01-17 Thread Snake
Well perhaps, just perhaps, you have apps written in an old version and the
client doesn't want to pay you thousands of $ to update them all to the
latest version of CF.
We certainly do. 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 January 2006 16:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Purchasing CF MX Enterprise...

That is correct.  Why get an old version when you should just buy 7?  They
do stop supporting older versions after a while, why would you want to limit
the amount of time you can get support by buying an old version?



Eric 

-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 08:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Purchasing CF MX Enterprise...

I think so, developer edition is Enterprise edition that falls back to
single IP after all.

-Original Message-
From: Protoculture [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 January 2006 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Purchasing CF MX Enterprise...

Our company is considering purchasing an old license of CFMX Enterprise.
My question is does Macromedia (Adobe) still offer support. IE downloadable
versions of CF MX 6.1 Enterpise that we can install?

I noticed on the Macromedia site all they have left is the CFMX 6.1
developer edition. Providing we have the proper license for CFMX enterprise,
will this expand into the full blown enterprise edition?








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Re: SpoolMail (Dov's Edits)

2006-01-17 Thread Dov Katz
Ray and cf-talk, 

I made some changes to fit my need. Zip is here:
http://onlysimchas.com/osads/dov/spoolmail.zip

I allow you to edit the From:, To: and subject, as well as delete/move from the 
bottom pane, refreshing the top pane if you save, move or delete from the 
bottom one.

Alot of times, I get a tell-a-friend message sent via my site which the person 
accidentally entered www. before the email. Not quite sure why, but happens 
quite often... example:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some pages (Which i don't 
validate emails on) have bad addresses entered, or spaces in the screennames. 

this lets me fix it...

Ray, if you want, merge the code in. I include a readme.

Thanks for making the very useful tool!
dov



Very nice ray, now use the cfadmin CSS to make it look pretty too :-)
Another rhandy feature you could add to this, is a scheduled task to just
copy undelivered mail back into the spool automatically to deal with mail
that ends up there that shouldn't

We have done this with a windows service, but I guess it would be handy to
have it as part of the cfadmin.
 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 January 2006 23:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Ann: SpoolMail

Something has been bugging me for a while now and I finally got around to
fixiing it. Normally my CF boxes do not use a real mail server.
Therefore, to test my cfmail generated emails, I dig down to the
undelivered folder, wait for the mail, open it, try to read it, and repeat
if I made a formatting issue.

Today I wrote a little app called SpoolMail. It integrates with the CF Admin
to let you read the mail from the undelivered folder in a hotmail/gmail type
interface. You can then clean up (delete) the mail, or move it to the spool
if you choose.

More info may be found here:

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/1/16/Yet-another-project--announc
ing-SpoolMail

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Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

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Re: Purchasing CF MX Enterprise...

2006-01-17 Thread mac jordan
On 1/17/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well perhaps, just perhaps, you have apps written in an old version and
 the
 client doesn't want to pay you thousands of $ to update them all to the
 latest version of CF.
 We certainly do.



quite so - we are only just now upgrading from 5 to 7. As a small shop, we
simply didn't have the time to contemplate it before.

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Web Service Problems after upgrade to 7.0.1

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
Okay I just did an upgrade from CFMX 7.0 (server mode on windows) to 
7.0.1 and the various applicable hotfixes to 7.0.1..

Everything is working great.. flash apps with flash remoting, internally 
called cfcs, etc, web services from flash...

However, our reporting application - written in VB - makes use of 
several web services and the calls to those web services no longer work. 
  The error occurs during the initial call to the WSDL.

SoapMapper:The schema definition with a targetnamespace of 
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/ for Soapmapper string could 
not be found HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error.

There's a bunch of other text too but to save me the typing, I'll refer 
you to this 2002 post about the same problem... with no apparent solution.

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid=14137forumid=4

Everything had been working great until I applied the 7.0.1 updater.

Anyone out there got any ideas?

rick Root

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Re: Web Service Problems after upgrade to 7.0.1

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
I also found this relevant reference: http://tinyurl.com/bqa4o

Don't use soap encoding with .net - or really anywhere these days if 
you can avoid it. Google for document/literal wrapped - plenty of 
examples out there.

and this:

Switch to wrapped document/literal.  But if for some reason that is not 
an option for you, then add this parameter to your WSDD:
parameter name=dotNetSoapEncFix value=true/

But those items still don't help me.

rick

Rick Root wrote:
 Okay I just did an upgrade from CFMX 7.0 (server mode on windows) to 
 7.0.1 and the various applicable hotfixes to 7.0.1..
 
 Everything is working great.. flash apps with flash remoting, internally 
 called cfcs, etc, web services from flash...
 
 However, our reporting application - written in VB - makes use of 
 several web services and the calls to those web services no longer work. 
   The error occurs during the initial call to the WSDL.
 
 SoapMapper:The schema definition with a targetnamespace of 
 http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/ for Soapmapper string could 
 not be found HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error.
 
 There's a bunch of other text too but to save me the typing, I'll refer 
 you to this 2002 post about the same problem... with no apparent solution.
 
 http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid=14137forumid=4
 
 Everything had been working great until I applied the 7.0.1 updater.
 
 Anyone out there got any ideas?
 
 rick Root

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Re: SpoolMail (Dov's Edits)

2006-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden
Interesting mods. I don't think I will take them - just because,
again, my primary purpose was to build a reader more than anything
else. :) But this is exactly what I was hoping would happen (ideas
flowing, people changing it, etc. :)

On 1/17/06, Dov Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ray and cf-talk,

 I made some changes to fit my need. Zip is here:
 http://onlysimchas.com/osads/dov/spoolmail.zip

 I allow you to edit the From:, To: and subject, as well as delete/move from 
 the bottom pane, refreshing the top pane if you save, move or delete from the 
 bottom one.

 Alot of times, I get a tell-a-friend message sent via my site which the 
 person accidentally entered www. before the email. Not quite sure why, but 
 happens quite often... example:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some pages (Which i 
 don't validate emails on) have bad addresses entered, or spaces in the 
 screennames.

 this lets me fix it...

 Ray, if you want, merge the code in. I include a readme.

 Thanks for making the very useful tool!
 dov



 Very nice ray, now use the cfadmin CSS to make it look pretty too :-)
 Another rhandy feature you could add to this, is a scheduled task to just
 copy undelivered mail back into the spool automatically to deal with mail
 that ends up there that shouldn't
 
 We have done this with a windows service, but I guess it would be handy to
 have it as part of the cfadmin.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 16 January 2006 23:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Ann: SpoolMail
 
 Something has been bugging me for a while now and I finally got around to
 fixiing it. Normally my CF boxes do not use a real mail server.
 Therefore, to test my cfmail generated emails, I dig down to the
 undelivered folder, wait for the mail, open it, try to read it, and repeat
 if I made a formatting issue.
 
 Today I wrote a little app called SpoolMail. It integrates with the CF Admin
 to let you read the mail from the undelivered folder in a hotmail/gmail type
 interface. You can then clean up (delete) the mail, or move it to the spool
 if you choose.
 
 More info may be found here:
 
 http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/1/16/Yet-another-project--announc
 ing-SpoolMail
 
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OT: URL Redirection/ rewrite

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
I have a need to redirect a specific request for a WSDL in coldfusion to 
a hardcoded WSDL file.

ie, I want http://www.foo.com/components/component.cfc?WSDL
to redirect to http://www.foo.com/components/component.wsdl

But obviously, I can't redirect *ALL* requests to the cfc cuz that would 
cause the web service itself not to work...

I think I can do this in apache but we're using IIS 6 and their url 
redirect stuff doesn't seem to support that.

Rick

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Re: OT: URL Redirection/ rewrite

2006-01-17 Thread John Beynon
yeah, ISAPI_Rewrite would handle that from www.helicontech.com, $50

john

On 1/17/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a need to redirect a specific request for a WSDL in coldfusion to
 a hardcoded WSDL file.

 ie, I want http://www.foo.com/components/component.cfc?WSDL
 to redirect to http://www.foo.com/components/component.wsdl

 But obviously, I can't redirect *ALL* requests to the cfc cuz that would
 cause the web service itself not to work...

 I think I can do this in apache but we're using IIS 6 and their url
 redirect stuff doesn't seem to support that.

 Rick

 

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RE: URL Redirection/ rewrite

2006-01-17 Thread Brian Peddle
http://www.isapirewrite.com/

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: URL Redirection/ rewrite

I have a need to redirect a specific request for a WSDL in coldfusion to 
a hardcoded WSDL file.

ie, I want http://www.foo.com/components/component.cfc?WSDL
to redirect to http://www.foo.com/components/component.wsdl

But obviously, I can't redirect *ALL* requests to the cfc cuz that would 
cause the web service itself not to work...

I think I can do this in apache but we're using IIS 6 and their url 
redirect stuff doesn't seem to support that.

Rick



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RE: URL Redirection/ rewrite

2006-01-17 Thread Snake
Urlrewrite or ISAPIrewrite
 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 January 2006 15:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: URL Redirection/ rewrite

I have a need to redirect a specific request for a WSDL in coldfusion to a
hardcoded WSDL file.

ie, I want http://www.foo.com/components/component.cfc?WSDL
to redirect to http://www.foo.com/components/component.wsdl

But obviously, I can't redirect *ALL* requests to the cfc cuz that would
cause the web service itself not to work...

I think I can do this in apache but we're using IIS 6 and their url redirect
stuff doesn't seem to support that.

Rick



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Re: Web Service Problems after upgrade to 7.0.1

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
Okay...  I don't know what the solution to this problem is but I found a 
workaround.

Basically, VB.net didn't like the soapenc:string in the WSDL... so I 
viewed the WSDL, saved it to a file, replaced soapenc:string with the 
original xsd:string.

Of course, to make our .NET app look at the correct WSDL would require 
an actual release of the product.  Since that's a lot of trouble, I 
downloaded and configured ISAPI Rewrite lite, and redirected those WSDL 
requests to the actual wsdl file.

All is well in my world again.

Now to comment the code so I remember that if I make any changes to the 
web service that I have to save the WSDL again ;)

Rick

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FW: [BlueDragon] FW: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat

2006-01-17 Thread Snake
I'll pull out and respond to the thesis of Aaron's argument:
 It doesn't seem like there is much incentive to move to BlueDragon 
 unless you're application does not require a secure connection or a 
 J2EE server.

The J2EE version of BlueDragon is targeted towards those with an existing
J2EE application server like BEA WebLogic or IBM WebSphere, among others.

If a secure connection is required with a built-in J2EE infrastructure and
server, BlueDragon JX fits the bill for only $899.

Also, all versions allow SSL, except for the Free Server version.

Incentives to choose BlueDragon are as follows.
If you need:
   A free standalone cfml engine for non-commercial use BlueDragon Server
   A standalone cfml engine for secure/commercial use BlueDragon Server JX
   To deploy cfml natively on an existing J2EE platform use BlueDragon J2EE
   To deploy cfml natively on an existing .NET platform use BlueDragon .NET


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Snake
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [BlueDragon] FW: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Dunno if someone fancies commenting on this post from cf-talk.
 It's as a valid point really.
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 January 2006 05:50
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ColdFusion 7 on Tomcat
 
 Charles,
 
 I was looking around the New Atlanta website and I was quite suprised 
 to find that the price for BlueDragon Server for J2EE servers with 
 2-CPU's is $5,999. That is the same price as ColdFusion 7 Enterprise 
 edition which comes with JRUN and supports 2 CPU's. What's the deal?
 It doesn't seem like there is much incentive to move to BlueDragon 
 unless you're application does not require a secure connection or a 
 J2EE server.
 Why would someone pay the same price for the BlueDragon engine, which 
 is comparable to CF 6, instead of getting all of the new features of 
 ColdFusion 7?
 
 Also, will BlueDragon incorporate the Application.cfc framework in the 
 near future?
 
 Thanks,
 Aaron
 
 On 1/16/06, charles arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just to clarify, where Aaron refers to Tomcat below, I should 
  clarify
that
 if he proposes that one might run BD for free on Tomcat, that's not 
 permitted (beyond trial and single-IP development use).
 
  The free (non-SSL use) edition he refers to is our standalone
 BlueDragon Server edition, which deploys on top of our ServletExec 
 just like CFMX deploys atop JRun under the covers.
 
  Just want to avoid any confusion. Find out more about all 4
 editions at:
 
  
 http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/overview.cf
 m
 
  Aaron wrote:
 
  If you are going to run CF 7 on Tomcat, why not save some money and 
  run BlueDragon on it instead? BlueDragon is free for non-ssl use!
  
  -Aaron
 


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Re: Fusebox / Google Tracking and Adsense

2006-01-17 Thread John Beynon
kinda like Google Analytics which integrates real nice with Adwords
for conversions etc?

jb.

On 1/16/06, Josh Carrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I am working on a Beta application which takes advantage of Google Adsense 
 information, to provide additional data that Google does not give.

 I am currently beta testing this on about 10 websites that I personally run 
 Adsense on, and I would like to open this up to a few people for beta 
 testing. I have been working heavily with Adsense  other Google products 
 these past 7 months, and I am really on to something here.

 This information helps an Adsense user/website determine:

 * Popular and effective keywords on their website(s)
 * Search/Keyword conversion
 * Popular pages on your adsense site
 * Popular colors  Ad formats on your sites


 This is going to be a site/application that I am going to charge users for, 
 but for beta testers I will allow them to run free for an unknow period of 
 time.

 Currently, the main application will run with out any modification or setup 
 on your end. You just have to add a small line of code to the end of your 
 site/pages (ie OnRequestEnd.cfm). This will work on non-fusebox apps as well, 
 but I wanted to start with my Home community first, as this  sub apps are 
 going to be for ONLY fusebox sites.

 While in Beta Testing, I will be adding features and functionality based on 
 need and your requests/feedback as this application quickly evolves to 
 production.

 Please let me know if you are interested and feel free to drop me any 
 questions!
 If you are interested, please email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with your domain name(s), some information about your traffic, adsense usage, 
 ect.

 Thanks
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fileexists()

2006-01-17 Thread Charlie Hanlon
When using cfif fileexists(variables.myFileName), does the variable need 
to be in quotes or surrounded by pounds signs?

thanks in advance,
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RE: fileexists()

2006-01-17 Thread Adrian Lynch
Quotes as it's a string. But not in the example you have below as I'm
guessing VARIABLES.myFileName evaluates to a string.

Ade

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Subject: fileexists()


When using cfif fileexists(variables.myFileName), does the variable need
to be in quotes or surrounded by pounds signs?

thanks in advance,
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RE: fileexists()

2006-01-17 Thread Brad Wood
If it is a literal (the actual name) then put it in quotes.
If it is a variables which contains the file name, then no quotes are
needed.  No pound signs are need either though, since the variable name
is a function argument and will be evaluated automatically as long as it
is not in quotes.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Hanlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: fileexists()

When using cfif fileexists(variables.myFileName), does the variable
need 
to be in quotes or surrounded by pounds signs?

thanks in advance,
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RE: fileexists()

2006-01-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
No quotes or pound signs are required. 

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Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Due to a small issue with someone 'stealing' an open-source CF product, we at 
Fusion Authority (http://www.fusionauthority.com) would like to showcase the 
various fully formed open source CF projects around. If you are writing such a 
project, moving a formerly for pay project to open source or planning one, 
please email me off list with the information so we can add it in. Also, if you 
are active in the open source community and want to write or contribute to an 
article, let me know. We have a few ideas in the hopper at the moment. 
Thank you for your help in this and keep up the good work.
(and yes, I know Raymond is the king of CF Open Source)

p.s. if you want to discuss the 'small issue', please move it to CF-OT. If you 
want to discuss open source CF projects and the like, you can continue it here 
or there. If you want to start a project and need help, there are many here who 
will love to give it. 


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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Hastings
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 Due to a small issue with someone 'stealing' an open-source CF
 product, we at Fusion Authority (http://www.fusionauthority.com)
 would like to showcase the various fully formed open source CF

define 'fully formed open source'.

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Raymond Camden
I'm assuming he means done projects? Although I know both Starfish
and SpoolMail are version  0 and they are listed. ;) Fully formed may
be in the eye of the beholder.

Or maybe he just means released. Ie, I can say I'm building a CF app
to allow folks to easily create simple polls - but it should be listed
until you can download a zip.

On 1/17/06, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael Dinowitz wrote:
  Due to a small issue with someone 'stealing' an open-source CF
  product, we at Fusion Authority (http://www.fusionauthority.com)
  would like to showcase the various fully formed open source CF

 define 'fully formed open source'.

 

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's free 
to use and modify.

I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but steal???

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Something that others can use. Documentation, obvious ways of installing, 
obvious uses, or anything else that lets someone use the software without 
having to know all of the code. Raymond's BlogCFC is fully formed. It has 
docs on how to use it, full UI and anyone can just download it and run. My 
MakeTree component is not a fully formed open source project because it has 
no docs, is a single tag/function and has no UI.
The UI is a good separator here. If it has a UI, then it's full software. If 
it has no UI, then chances are it's a component, custom tag, function, etc. 
and while those can be open source, it's not what I'm referring to as a full 
project.
I've got to learn to be more specific. :)


 Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 Due to a small issue with someone 'stealing' an open-source CF
 product, we at Fusion Authority (http://www.fusionauthority.com)
 would like to showcase the various fully formed open source CF

 define 'fully formed open source'.

 

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RE: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Brad Wood
I wondered that too.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Source CF software

I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition
it's free 
to use and modify.

I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but
steal??? 


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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Barney Boisvert
steal as in violate the license agreement.  In the care of BlogCFC,
it's not stealing, just being a bastard, because (according to Joe
Rinehart, whom I'm inclined to trust), it's not explicitly licensed. 
But if you took something that was GPL and released a closed-source
derivative, that'd be stealing.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/17/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but 
 steal???

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Answer moved to CF-OT


 I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's 
 free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but 
 steal???

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com


 

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RE: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J \(AIT\)
I find it interesting that everyone is assuming that open source means
free.

It doesn't.  I'm in a Linux+ Certification class and we had to watch a
movie about the history of Linux (et all).  In the movie the people who
actually came up with the phrase open source, said it doesn't mean
free.  It means the source is open for all to see.

The licensing model determines whether it costs...  Or if you can make
changes and re-distribute it.

Steve.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Open Source CF software


I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition
it's free 
to use and modify.

I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but
steal???

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com 




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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Again, answered on CF-OT


 steal as in violate the license agreement.  In the care of BlogCFC,
 it's not stealing, just being a bastard, because (according to Joe
 Rinehart, whom I'm inclined to trust), it's not explicitly licensed.
 But if you took something that was GPL and released a closed-source
 derivative, that'd be stealing.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 1/17/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's 
 free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but 
 steal???

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
If someone took a piece of software I wrote that did not have a specific 
licensing agreement, they are still stealing my good name. They are still 
stealing the time I put into the project. They're also screwing themselves 
in the community by doing so. Yes, they may be quasi-legally allowed, but 
there's one thing I hate and that's people not being civil. I passed on a 
job because the people were not civil to the person who originally offered 
it to me. Civility is what makes a community.


 steal as in violate the license agreement.  In the care of BlogCFC,
 it's not stealing, just being a bastard, because (according to Joe
 Rinehart, whom I'm inclined to trust), it's not explicitly licensed.
 But if you took something that was GPL and released a closed-source
 derivative, that'd be stealing.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 1/17/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's 
 free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but 
 steal???

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Charlie Griefer
I'm thinking people are confusing open source and public domain :\

On 1/17/06, DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find it interesting that everyone is assuming that open source means
 free.

 It doesn't.  I'm in a Linux+ Certification class and we had to watch a
 movie about the history of Linux (et all).  In the movie the people who
 actually came up with the phrase open source, said it doesn't mean
 free.  It means the source is open for all to see.

 The licensing model determines whether it costs...  Or if you can make
 changes and re-distribute it.

 Steve.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:35 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Open Source CF software


 I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition
 it's free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but
 steal???

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RE: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
Wow!  Actual enforcement of the topic for this list!  I like it, and I
hope we see more of this on cf-talk (by far the most OT mailing list I
subscribe to).

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Open Source CF software
 
 Again, answered on CF-OT
 
 
  steal as in violate the license agreement.  In the care 
 of BlogCFC,
  it's not stealing, just being a bastard, because (according to Joe
  Rinehart, whom I'm inclined to trust), it's not explicitly licensed.
  But if you took something that was GPL and released a closed-source
  derivative, that'd be stealing.


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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Hastings
Raymond Camden wrote:
 I'm assuming he means done projects? Although I know both Starfish
 and SpoolMail are version  0 and they are listed. ;) Fully formed may
 be in the eye of the beholder.

oh i got lots  lots of done projects (all those i18n tools, 
geoLocator, etc.) but was wondering what specifics he was after. these 
things aren't meant to be ends in themselves (unless you count the 
testbeds/demos accompanying them, which i wouldn't) but tools for others 
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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Hastings
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 The UI is a good separator here. If it has a UI, then it's full software. If 

so if i schelp a flashform GUI around the i18n tools, etc. these would 
count ;-)


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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Mark Drew
Does CFEclipse count?

MD

On 17/01/06, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wondered that too.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:35 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Open Source CF software

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 it's free
 to use and modify.

 I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but
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BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Aaron Roberson
I have recently been looking at BlueDragon 6.2 and have been comparing
it with ColdFusion MX 7. I would like to do a series of comparisons
and ask you to respond and/or added your own comparisons to this list:

I have found that BD only supports CFML as it stands with CF 6. The
price for BlueDragon Server JX is $899, whereas CF 7 Personal is
$1,299 - but is the costs saved worth sacrificing the new feature set
in CF 7?

BD Server JX comes with ServletExec, New Atlanta's J2EE from what I
understand. This is included in the $899 price. However, to run BD on
Tomcat, JRun or any other J2EE server the price for a 2CPU server is
$5,999 - that doesn't include the cost of the J2EE server. However, CF
7 Enterprise comes with JRun for the same price - $5,999. Is
ServletExec comparable to JRun? If not, why pay $5,999 for BD Server
J2EE PLUS $899 for JRun when you can buy CF 7 Enterprise with JRun
included for $5,999?

3 General Questions:

1. Does BD Server JX compare to CF 6 Standard or Enterprise?
2. Will BD soon include the new CF 7 feature set?
3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE servers?

I would appreciate whatever feedback you may have and I look forward
to hearing from someone at New Atlanta.

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Reload Fusebox circuts

2006-01-17 Thread Ryan Guill
I have a circuit, that has the appropriate fuses in it, but the
application is saying that the fuse doesnt exist.  I can see the fuse
in the circuit.xml in code and in the browser.

Is there a way to force fusebox to reload the circuit(s) ?

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Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Orlini, Robert
How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a 
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I 
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ  
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
I'm assuming you mean in SQL.  You can use the IN operator:
cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
  SELECT * FROM inventory 
  where floor in ('#trim(form.floor3)#','#trim(form.floor4)#')
/cfquery

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 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Search two values in one field
 
 How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?
 
 I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named 
 floor and display a report. Then html form uses checkboxes 
 for each floor.
 
 Here is my previous search statement with one floor per 
 search; how can I modify it? Thanks!
 
 cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
 SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0
 
 CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ  
   And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
 /CFIF
 /cfquery


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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 1/17/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If someone took a piece of software I wrote that did not have a specific
 licensing agreement, they are still stealing my good name. They are still
 stealing the time I put into the project. They're also screwing themselves
 in the community by doing so. Yes, they may be quasi-legally allowed, but
 there's one thing I hate and that's people not being civil. I passed on a
 job because the people were not civil to the person who originally offered
 it to me. Civility is what makes a community.

I'm not completely sure why the discussion keeps getting moved to
CF-OT, since the issue  seems pretty *on*-topic by the traffic, but
that aside

While I totally agree in *principle* that someone taking software that
doesn't have a specific license agreement and rebranding it as their
own is not a good thing to do, it is not quasi-legal -- it is simply
legal. That's why software licenses exist. If you do not license your
software and just throw it out there, you're encouraging this
practice.

I'm *NOT* condoning or encouraging stealing, but I work with open
source a lot and have for quite a while. When you publically release
source code, you either license it using one of the many standard
licenses, ranging from the ubiquitous GPL, BSD, and Apache licenses
through the Creative Commons and so-on.

There is *another* entire issue of copyright, which the creator
implictly owns (unless that's been transferred through a work-for-hire
or similar agreement) and can be used to protect the intellectual
property. This is separate from licensing, which is why all the open
source licenses I deal with have a clause about who owns copyright and
what uses are granted.


  steal as in violate the license agreement.  In the care of BlogCFC,
  it's not stealing, just being a bastard, because (according to Joe
  Rinehart, whom I'm inclined to trust), it's not explicitly licensed.
  But if you took something that was GPL and released a closed-source
  derivative, that'd be stealing.
  cheers,
  barneyb
 

Which also happens far more often than the OSS world would like
(embedded consumer devices keep popping up with this problem --
routers, etc). In most cases the letter of the law can be simply met
by posting links to the OSS software used in the product.

  On 1/17/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm curious how someone can steal an open-source app?  By definition it's
  free
  to use and modify.
 
  I could see how someone could try and re-brand it as their own.but
  steal???

Yes, steal. A great example of GPL abuse is NuSphere's attempt to take
over MySQL a couple years back. That got *really* ugly. MySQL was
explictly *not* free to use and modify with no restrictions -- the GPL
is very specific that any modifications *must be contributed back*
(aside: that's not the case with some other licenses like Apache and
especially BSD and MIT). Among other crappy things, NuSphere created a
new table handler for MySQL and refused to release the source...

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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Adrian Lynch
If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

Robert Hww


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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Adrian Lynch
Or this is always handy:

cfset list = Event 1,Event 2

cfquery name=temp datasource=#REQUEST.DSN#
SELECT * FROM Event
WHERE Label IN (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#list#
list=yes)
/cfquery

From my tables, not yours, but you get the idea.

Adrian

-Original Message-
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Sent: 17 January 2006 20:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

Robert Hww


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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Orlini, Robert
Actually I would like separate values. Basically search the floor field for 
any occurrence of one or a combination of numbers 1-6. For example, I select 
checkboxes for floors 3 and 4 and get a list of records with floors having 3 
and 4 not 3,4.

How would the query look then?

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From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Or this is always handy:

cfset list = Event 1,Event 2

cfquery name=temp datasource=#REQUEST.DSN#
SELECT * FROM Event
WHERE Label IN (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#list#
list=yes)
/cfquery

From my tables, not yours, but you get the idea.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

Robert Hww




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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Adrian Lynch
You've lost me now. What does the form field look like. Not like this:

input type=checkbox name=floor value=1 / 1
input type=checkbox name=floor value=2 / 2
input type=checkbox name=floor value=3 / 3
input type=checkbox name=floor value=4 / 4

???

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Actually I would like separate values. Basically search the floor field
for any occurrence of one or a combination of numbers 1-6. For example, I
select checkboxes for floors 3 and 4 and get a list of records with floors
having 3 and 4 not 3,4.

How would the query look then?

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Or this is always handy:

cfset list = Event 1,Event 2

cfquery name=temp datasource=#REQUEST.DSN#
SELECT * FROM Event
WHERE Label IN (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#list#
list=yes)
/cfquery

From my tables, not yours, but you get the idea.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

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Re: Fusebox / Google Tracking and Adsense

2006-01-17 Thread Josh Carrico
kinda like Google Analytics which integrates real nice with Adwords
for conversions etc?

jb.

On 1/16/06, Josh Carrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No, what Im working on is for only Google ADSENSE. Adsense lets webmasters, 
bloggers, or anyone with a site place google ads on their pages to earn profits 
from their traffic.

Google does not offer any tracking like what Im working with, thus the problem. 
The reason for this is simple, google doesnt want you to know top performing 
keywords. Then you would just stack your site with them i suppose.

Google Analytics does tie in nicely with Adwords, but again this is a seperate 
product from Adsense. I am not buying and keywords, but some of the data I 
report on would come in handy.

Does that clarify things at all?

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Re: Reload Fusebox circuts

2006-01-17 Thread Greg Luce
fusebox.load=true is that it or fusebox.reload?

On 1/17/06, Ryan Guill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a circuit, that has the appropriate fuses in it, but the
 application is saying that the fuse doesnt exist.  I can see the fuse
 in the circuit.xml in code and in the browser.

 Is there a way to force fusebox to reload the circuit(s) ?

 I am using fb 4.1 if it makes a difference.
 --
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 BlueEyesDevelopment
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 (270) 217.2399
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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
 Due to a small issue with someone 'stealing' an open-source CF product, we at 
 Fusion Authority (http://www.fusionauthority.com) would like to showcase the 
 various fully formed open source CF projects around. If you are writing such 
 a project, moving a formerly for pay project to open source or planning one, 
 please email me off list with the information so we can add it in. Also, if 
 you are active in the open source community and want to write or contribute 
 to an article, let me know. We have a few ideas in the hopper at the moment. 
 Thank you for your help in this and keep up the good work.
 (and yes, I know Raymond is the king of CF Open Source)

I've got a few small comments on this as the author of numerous CF open 
source projects including a competing blog project BlogCFM and my 
coldfusion file manager, CFFM.

Ray's license has always been exceptionally informal.  His seems to be 
the You can use it, don't ask me license

What that means is that what Ray Horn did is perfectly legal and 
acceptable under Ray's generous license.  It may be against the concepts 
of open source, but it's legitimate.

I've always licensed my stuff more formally, using the basic BSD open 
source license.  It's awfully similar to Ray's except that the BSD 
license specifically states:

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or  without 
modification, are permitted...

and the only restriction placed on it is that the original licnese be 
included in the distribution (along with the usual waivers of liability)

That being said... if you really don't want people doing what Ray Horn 
did, then you use a more restrictive form of open source licensing, like 
the GPL or the LGPL or any of the variety of other licenses that place 
restrictions on commercial redistribution of the software.

All that being said... I think the guy's a scumbag.

rick

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Re: Anyone use AbleCommerce, CFMX version?

2006-01-17 Thread John McKown
AbleCommerce itself was what forced us to create our OWN ecommerce 
engine. The AbleCommerce code was messy and terrible.  We had to keep 
fixing it.  Then we were encouraged to purchase a support contract JUST 
TO REPORT BUGS. That was the last straw.  We had some key features we 
needed that were promised in the next release and when the next 
release came, the features were not there.   Then they (Able) began to 
close up the source code.   So they lost their last good saving grace in 
our opinion when they did that.  But our decision had been made at that 
point to leave Able.

We were about to lose a huge client because of the lack of current 
shipping features in Able.  This was about three years ago, and now we 
have a 100% fusebox commerce engine that uses UPS gateways, integrates 
with outside shipping systems (like MOM), many payment gateways, etc. 
and we are constantly developing it.   This is not meant to be an 
advertisement, just a cautionary tale.  Building a complete commerce 
engine is a huge endeavor.  You would do better to use something else 
and make it work with an outside shipment manager than to get stuck with 
Able.   Then there are all the usability/skinning/etc. issues that we 
could talk about for hours.

-- 
John McKown
President/CEO
Delaware.Net, Inc.
Toll-Free: 888-432-7965
ICQ: 1812513

We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion 
and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our 
Team-Logic CRM platform.


Josh Nathanson wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has experience working with the AbleCommerce 
 shopping cart, specifically the CFMX version (they also offer JSP/ASP 
 versions).  Any rants, raves, installation/usage issues?
 
 I would rather use CFWebstore, but my boss saw that AbleCommerce syncs up 
 with a module (StoneEdge Order Manager) that he likes on our current 
 shopping cart.  We have been battling back and forth over using CF on our 
 next store (I want to, he doesn't), so AbleCommerce may be a way for us to 
 meet in the middle.  Any info is appreciated, as I had never heard of 
 AbleCommerce before, let alone worked with it.
 
 -- Josh Nathanson
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Orlini, Robert
Like this:  
input type=checkbox name=floor1 value=11
input type=checkbox name=floor2 value=22

Maybe I'm messing things up here...

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


You've lost me now. What does the form field look like. Not like this:

input type=checkbox name=floor value=1 / 1
input type=checkbox name=floor value=2 / 2
input type=checkbox name=floor value=3 / 3
input type=checkbox name=floor value=4 / 4

???

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Actually I would like separate values. Basically search the floor field
for any occurrence of one or a combination of numbers 1-6. For example, I
select checkboxes for floors 3 and 4 and get a list of records with floors
having 3 and 4 not 3,4.

How would the query look then?

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Or this is always handy:

cfset list = Event 1,Event 2

cfquery name=temp datasource=#REQUEST.DSN#
SELECT * FROM Event
WHERE Label IN (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#list#
list=yes)
/cfquery

From my tables, not yours, but you get the idea.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

Robert Hww








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Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread John McKown
Damien McKenna wrote:
 How about BlueDragon and its CFIMAP tag?
 

Never tried it.  How is it?

-- 
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Toll-Free: 888-432-7965
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FW: Body too long: RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Orlini, Robert
Like this:  
input type=checkbox name=floor1 value=11
input type=checkbox name=floor2 value=22

Maybe I'm messing things up here...



-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


You've lost me now. What does the form field look like. Not like this:

input type=checkbox name=floor value=1 / 1
input type=checkbox name=floor value=2 / 2
input type=checkbox name=floor value=3 / 3
input type=checkbox name=floor value=4 / 4

???

Ade


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RE: Reload Fusebox circuts

2006-01-17 Thread Sandra Clark
fusebox.load=true  If you have a password, it would be
fusebox.password=insertpasswordherefusebox.load=true 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Reload Fusebox circuts

fusebox.load=true is that it or fusebox.reload?

On 1/17/06, Ryan Guill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a circuit, that has the appropriate fuses in it, but the 
 application is saying that the fuse doesnt exist.  I can see the fuse 
 in the circuit.xml in code and in the browser.

 Is there a way to force fusebox to reload the circuit(s) ?

 I am using fb 4.1 if it makes a difference.
 --
 Ryan Guill
 BlueEyesDevelopment
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.ryanguill.com
 (270) 217.2399
 got google talk?  Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - 
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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Rick Root
As a side note, since anyone can decrypt coldfusion encrypted templates, 
Ray Horn must not be that bright.

I'm blogging about him now.  Perhaps when someone searches for Rabid 
Blog they'll find one of our blog entries about it.

Rick

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Re: Open Source CF software

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
This is why I wanted debate about open source CF software moved to CF-OT. 
Bottom line is that while it is of interest to the community, it is a debate 
and once we get into the particular case that spawned all this off, it'll 
get into more debate as well as name calling (rightfully or not).
Again, please post debate and reviews of what happened to CF-OT. Thanks

 I've got a few small comments on this as the author of numerous CF open
 source projects including a competing blog project BlogCFM and my
 coldfusion file manager, CFFM.
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RE: Body too long: RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
If you want to reference all of the floors to see which were selected,
you'd want to name all your check boxes the same, as Adrian did in his
example.  So the variable #floor# contains all selected floors. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:33 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: FW: Body too long: RE: Search two values in one field
 
 Like this:  
 input type=checkbox name=floor1 value=11
 input type=checkbox name=floor2 value=22
 
 Maybe I'm messing things up here...
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Search two values in one field
 
 
 You've lost me now. What does the form field look like. Not like this:
 
 input type=checkbox name=floor value=1 / 1
 input type=checkbox name=floor value=2 / 2
 input type=checkbox name=floor value=3 / 3
 input type=checkbox name=floor value=4 / 4

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session sharing without clustering

2006-01-17 Thread Russ
I have 2 instances of CF7 and have clustering and session sharing working
fine, but I want to be able to take one of the servers out of the cluster
for testing (while still running the ColdFusion service).  I have this set
up in the hardware load balancer, that by removing a certain file, the
loadbalancer marks that server as failed (even though the cf service is
still running). 

 

The problem I'm running into, however, is that if the request hits the other
CF server, it still forwards certain requests back to 'failed' server due to
clustering.  Is there any way to turn this off, but still being able to
maintain session replication?

 

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RE: Search two values in one field

2006-01-17 Thread Adrian Lynch
Then it'll work. You'll get a list of floors on the action page which you
can use in the query.

Am I missing something?

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Like this:
input type=checkbox name=floor1 value=11
input type=checkbox name=floor2 value=22

Maybe I'm messing things up here...

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


You've lost me now. What does the form field look like. Not like this:

input type=checkbox name=floor value=1 / 1
input type=checkbox name=floor value=2 / 2
input type=checkbox name=floor value=3 / 3
input type=checkbox name=floor value=4 / 4

???

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Actually I would like separate values. Basically search the floor field
for any occurrence of one or a combination of numbers 1-6. For example, I
select checkboxes for floors 3 and 4 and get a list of records with floors
having 3 and 4 not 3,4.

How would the query look then?

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


Or this is always handy:

cfset list = Event 1,Event 2

cfquery name=temp datasource=#REQUEST.DSN#
SELECT * FROM Event
WHERE Label IN (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#list#
list=yes)
/cfquery

From my tables, not yours, but you get the idea.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 20:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search two values in one field


If I understand this correctly, you'll be getting a value of 1,2 back in
FORM.floor. If that's the case, this should work:

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory WHERE 0 = 0
cfif IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
AND floor IN (#form.floor#)
/cfif
/cfquery

But that's only if the values of the checkboxes are numbers. If they're
strings, try this instead:

AND floor IN #ListQualify(FORM.floor, ')#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 19:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search two values in one field


How do I implement a search of two different values in one field?

I want to search for floors 3 and 4 in the field named floor and display a
report. Then html form uses checkboxes for each floor.

Here is my previous search statement with one floor per search; how can I
modify it? Thanks!

cfquery name=Getfloor datasource=inventory
SELECT * FROM inventory where 0 = 0

CFIF IsDefined(FORM.floor) and form.floor NEQ 
And floor = '#trim(form.floor)#'
/CFIF
/cfquery

Robert Hww


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Re: The best CFC book is...

2006-01-17 Thread Brian Kotek
Glad you found it useful Mike. I should note though that even that code was
written a year or two ago and I would do a a couple of things differently if
I wrote it today. Nothing too major though. One of these days I'll take some
time to update it. Maybe knowing that folks are still looking at it will
make me find that time.

On 1/15/06, Michael Soultanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Casey,
 Here's a good example:

 http://tinyurl.com/3mrec

 I learned quite a bit from the way that he set up his CFCs
 in his sample bookstore app.  Yeah, it's fusebox, but the
 concepts would carry over to script based programming as
 well.

 Mike
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peer not authenticated

2006-01-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

I've got a strange error...you knowone of those it always worked...nothing 
has changed...but now it won't work kinda gremlins ;-)

I am invoking CF web services over SSL like so (made generic to protect the 
innocent):

cfinvoke 
  webservice=https://domain/services/my_ws.cfc?wsdl;
  method=getRecords
  returnvariable=Result
  cfinvokeargument name=uservalue=#userid#
  cfinvokeargument name=pwd value=#passwd#
  cfinvokeargument name=recID  value=421742
/cfinvoke

This has always worked just fine and now I get the error below (and run via an 
SSL secured link):

Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation. Name: 
https://fm-training.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2/services/fish_log_ws.cfc?wsdl. 
WSDL: 
https://fm-training.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2/services/fish_log_ws.cfc?wsdl. 
javax.net.ssl.SSLPeerUnverifiedException: peer not authenticated It is 
recommended that you use a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested 
WSDL document for correctness. If the requested WSDL document can't be 
retrieved or it is dynamically generated, it is likely that the target web 
service has programming errors. brThe error occurred on line 427. 


Now before everybody jumps on the welll did you try the WSDL file like the 
error tells you to? band wagaonyes I did and it displays 100% correctly 
with no exceptionsso there are no programmatic errors as the error message 
suggests.  I've also tried this with MANY of the web services on this 
server...ALL produce the same error above.  I am also not able to refresh the 
offending web services via CF Admin (same basic error there as well).

Of particular interest is this line:
javax.net.ssl.SSLPeerUnverifiedException: peer not authenticated

It would lead me to beleive this is an SSL related issue.  Now I can say the 
SSL cert has not changes since I last ran these services successfully.  I have 
read some articles that indicate this may be a JDK issue so I will be asking 
the client if the JDK was recently updated/altered.

Any thoughts?

Windows 2000 SP4 with CF MX 7 (not sure if the recent hotfix was applied).

TIA

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
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RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
 From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Damien McKenna wrote:
  How about BlueDragon and its CFIMAP tag?
 
 Never tried it.  How is it?

No idea, sorry.

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RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Russ
We found out that CFPOP sucks about a year ago... that's when we got 

http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/cfxpop3professional.cfm

Worked like a charm.  And at $60 it's not that expensive.  



 -Original Message-
 From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Damien McKenna wrote:
   How about BlueDragon and its CFIMAP tag?
 
  Never tried it.  How is it?
 
 No idea, sorry.
 
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Re: Reload Fusebox circuts

2006-01-17 Thread Mike Soultanian
The others mentioned the fusebox.load command, but also make sure that 
your fusebox.xml file has the correct circuit definitions or it'll never 
find the fuses.

Mike

Ryan Guill wrote:
 I have a circuit, that has the appropriate fuses in it, but the
 application is saying that the fuse doesnt exist.  I can see the fuse
 in the circuit.xml in code and in the browser.
 
 Is there a way to force fusebox to reload the circuit(s) ?
 
 I am using fb 4.1 if it makes a difference.
 --
 Ryan Guill
 BlueEyesDevelopment
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.ryanguill.com
 (270) 217.2399
 got google talk?  Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com
 
 Use CF and SQL? Try qBrowser - http://www.ryanguill.com/docs/
 
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Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
John McKown wrote:
 Damien McKenna wrote:
 How about BlueDragon and its CFIMAP tag?
 
 Never tried it.  How is it?

A very minimal implementation: I know more IMAP by hard from 
telnet'ing to IMAP servers then I can use with CFIMAP in BlueDragon.


What sort of email integration do you need? How far would a 
delivery agent with advanced rules help you? If you go for 
something like the Dovecot mail server with delivery rules in 
Sieve or through procmail you can easily scale to a large cluster 
if you need more power on the mail processing end: 
http://www.dovecot.org/
But if you really just need to read all the email into CF and you 
might be better of with a mailserver that stores the email 
directly in a database so you can just query it: 
http://www.dbmail.org/ (Obviously I would recommend using it in 
combination with PostgreSQL.)

Jochem

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learning CFCs - was The best CFC book is...

2006-01-17 Thread Mike Soultanian
Yeah, I literally spent hours studying your bookstore app.  I think I'll 
also get that design patterns book by the gang of four to learn more 
about the principles behind the various designs.

Before learning fusebox, I hadn't even thought about CFCs.  Now I plan 
to code entirely in CFCs from now on.  I am even going to try and model 
some of my new projects after how you structured things in your app so 
yeah, if you've got any future suggestions, I'm all ears.  I haven't 
really gotten the DAO and Gateway concepts totally down, but after 
staring at everything a little bit longer I'll have it down to where I 
can recreate it on my own.  I know I *really* understand something when 
I can recreate it without having to look it up... because at that point 
it just makes sense.  Kinda like fusebox ;)

But yeah, it's a great simple, but still complex, example of CFC usage 
which I found very educational.

Mike

Brian Kotek wrote:
 Glad you found it useful Mike. I should note though that even that code was
 written a year or two ago and I would do a a couple of things differently if
 I wrote it today. Nothing too major though. One of these days I'll take some
 time to update it. Maybe knowing that folks are still looking at it will
 make me find that time.
 
 On 1/15/06, Michael Soultanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Casey,
 Here's a good example:

 http://tinyurl.com/3mrec

 I learned quite a bit from the way that he set up his CFCs
 in his sample bookstore app.  Yeah, it's fusebox, but the
 concepts would carry over to script based programming as
 well.

 Mike
 On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:22:52 -0500

 
 
 

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WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread George Abraham
All,
I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was
spam and tagged it thus.

Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail
account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the
words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words
george and abraham.)

For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was
addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting
this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I
found this in Gmail's FAQ.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messages+dotctx=bugflow

Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to
usernames to me.

George


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RE: peer not authenticated

2006-01-17 Thread Mark A Kruger
Bryan,

It sure sounds like the cert isn't in the trusted keystore

http://mkruger.cfwebtools.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=8E44925A-B73D-E3AD-
709D4E02FD6D4588

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: peer not authenticated


Hey All,

I've got a strange error...you knowone of those it always
worked...nothing has changed...but now it won't work kinda gremlins ;-)

I am invoking CF web services over SSL like so (made generic to protect the
innocent):

cfinvoke
  webservice=https://domain/services/my_ws.cfc?wsdl;
  method=getRecords
  returnvariable=Result
  cfinvokeargument name=uservalue=#userid#
  cfinvokeargument name=pwd value=#passwd#
  cfinvokeargument name=recID  value=421742
/cfinvoke

This has always worked just fine and now I get the error below (and run via
an SSL secured link):

Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation. Name:
https://fm-training.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2/services/fish_log_ws.cfc?wsdl
.. WSDL:
https://fm-training.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2/services/fish_log_ws.cfc?wsdl
.. javax.net.ssl.SSLPeerUnverifiedException: peer not authenticated It is
recommended that you use a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested
WSDL document for correctness. If the requested WSDL document can't be
retrieved or it is dynamically generated, it is likely that the target web
service has programming errors. brThe error occurred on line 427.


Now before everybody jumps on the welll did you try the WSDL file like the
error tells you to? band wagaonyes I did and it displays 100% correctly
with no exceptionsso there are no programmatic errors as the error
message suggests.  I've also tried this with MANY of the web services on
this server...ALL produce the same error above.  I am also not able to
refresh the offending web services via CF Admin (same basic error there as
well).

Of particular interest is this line:
javax.net.ssl.SSLPeerUnverifiedException: peer not authenticated

It would lead me to beleive this is an SSL related issue.  Now I can say the
SSL cert has not changes since I last ran these services successfully.  I
have read some articles that indicate this may be a JDK issue so I will be
asking the client if the JDK was recently updated/altered.

Any thoughts?

Windows 2000 SP4 with CF MX 7 (not sure if the recent hotfix was applied).

TIA

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Jordan Michaels
Hi Aaron,

I'm not from NewAtlanta, but seeing as my company is a BlueDragon
Certified web host I am quite familiar with their software. You might
consider re-posting this message to the BlueDragon mailing list and
seeing if you don't get a better response.

I've responded to your message in-line below:

Aaron Roberson wrote:

I have found that BD only supports CFML as it stands with CF 6. The
price for BlueDragon Server JX is $899, whereas CF 7 Personal is
$1,299 - but is the costs saved worth sacrificing the new feature set
in CF 7?
  

I suppose this question boils down to the feature set that you actually
plan on using. If you don't plan on using any of the additional features
that are currently available in CF7 and not in BD6.2, then why spend the
additional $400? I don't know about you, but I can think of a lot of
things I could do with a spare $400. In addition, BlueDragon comes with
some features and tags that aren't included in CF7 - these features are
unique to BlueDragon alone.

For a great overview of the differences between BD and CF, take a look
at the BlueDragon compatibility guide available on the NewAtlanta web site.

BD Server JX comes with ServletExec, New Atlanta's J2EE from what I
understand. This is included in the $899 price. However, to run BD on
Tomcat, JRun or any other J2EE server the price for a 2CPU server is
$5,999 - that doesn't include the cost of the J2EE server. However, CF
7 Enterprise comes with JRun for the same price - $5,999. Is
ServletExec comparable to JRun? If not, why pay $5,999 for BD Server
J2EE PLUS $899 for JRun when you can buy CF 7 Enterprise with JRun
included for $5,999?
  

I've never used the J2EE version of BD, so I can't be much help in this
area. However, I would imagine that one would not by BD J2EE for JRUN.
Instead, they'd buy it for WebSphere, Tomcat, or some other J2EE server
not normally associated with CF. Again, I'd recommend posting this
message to the BlueDragon-interest list and see if you don't get better
answers to this question.

3 General Questions:

1. Does BD Server JX compare to CF 6 Standard or Enterprise?
  

CF 6 Standard.

2. Will BD soon include the new CF 7 feature set?
  

I know NewAtlanta is working on BD 7, but naturally they're keeping the
details for themselves until things are more concrete.

3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE servers?
  

As far as I know, yes. ServletExec is one of NewAtlanta's flagship
products - I'd imagine it'd be roughly comparable to most J2EE servers
available. However, not that this is not my personal area of expertise,
so you might get better information from the BD list or by contacting
someone at NewAtlanta who's familiar with answering these types of
questions.

I would appreciate whatever feedback you may have and I look forward
to hearing from someone at New Atlanta.

-Aaron
  

Hope this helps!

-- 
Warm regards,
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Vivio Technologies
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RE: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Mark A Kruger
Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design.  As long as they
inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is
non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere

-Original Message-
From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames


All,
I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was
spam and tagged it thus.

Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail
account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the
words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words
george and abraham.)

For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was
addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting
this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I
found this in Gmail's FAQ.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messag
es+dotctx=bugflow

Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to
usernames to me.

George




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Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread John McKown
Russ,

That was one of the tags I mentioned in my original post.
Thanks for the opinion.  That tag is so inexpensive that I will try it 
just because of the price and your recommendation.

Thanks.


-- 
John McKown
President/CEO
Delaware.Net, Inc.
Toll-Free: 888-432-7965
ICQ: 1812513

We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion 
and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our 
Team-Logic CRM platform.

Russ wrote:
 We found out that CFPOP sucks about a year ago... that's when we got 
 
 http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/cfxpop3professional.cfm
 
 Worked like a charm.  And at $60 it's not that expensive.  
 
 

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Re: The best CFC book is...

2006-01-17 Thread Casey Dougall
Maybe knowing that folks are still looking at it will
 make me find that time.

I don't like that one since it's got the word fusebox in it but,
Brian I did start reading through your Polymorphism with ColdFusion
Components on builder.com I like that one.

That one is great, just an FYI my Cat eats Zebra for afternoon snacks. ;-)

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Re: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Barney Boisvert
It'd matter the other way.  Since bboisvert@ and b.boisvert@ are both
RFC-compliant email addresses and GMail behaves properly with each,
they're fine.  What GMail is doing is saying that both of those (along
with various other permutations) are really just aliases.  Kind of
like how some servers let you append arbitrary stuff in front of a
plus sign in front of your username
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that won't affect delivery, but
will let you track where address came from.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/17/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design.  As long as they
 inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is
 non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere

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Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Traher
It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from
using that name!

Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design!


On 1/17/06, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All,
 I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was
 spam and tagged it thus.

 Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail
 account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the
 words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words
 george and abraham.)

 For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was
 addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting
 this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I
 found this in Gmail's FAQ.


 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messages+dotctx=bugflow

 Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to
 usernames to me.

 George


 

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RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Jennifer Gavin-Wear
http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_tag.cfm?ProductID=2

I'm using the above and it works really well.  docs are good too.

also v. cheap and excellent support.

-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 January 2006 21:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks


Russ,

That was one of the tags I mentioned in my original post.
Thanks for the opinion.  That tag is so inexpensive that I will try it
just because of the price and your recommendation.

Thanks.


--
John McKown
President/CEO
Delaware.Net, Inc.
Toll-Free: 888-432-7965
ICQ: 1812513

We host Fusebox.org, and we build all of our applications in ColdFusion
and Fusebox including our Store-Logic Ecommerce engine and our
Team-Logic CRM platform.

Russ wrote:
 We found out that CFPOP sucks about a year ago... that's when we got

 http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/cfxpop3professional.cfm

 Worked like a charm.  And at $60 it's not that expensive.





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RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Vernon
John,

 That was one of the tags I mentioned in my original post.
 Thanks for the opinion.  That tag is so inexpensive that I 
 will try it just because of the price and your recommendation.

I write and maintain CFX_POP3 Std and Pro. One of your requirements in your
original post was platform independence and CFX_POP3 is not platform
independent. That is why I haven't mentioned it The tag is a pure
Windows dll so you wont get much mileage out of it on a Linux or other
platform ;)

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RE: session sharing without clustering

2006-01-17 Thread Dave Watts
 I have 2 instances of CF7 and have clustering and session 
 sharing working fine, but I want to be able to take one of 
 the servers out of the cluster for testing (while still 
 running the ColdFusion service).  I have this set up in the 
 hardware load balancer, that by removing a certain file, the 
 loadbalancer marks that server as failed (even though the cf 
 service is still running). 
 
 The problem I'm running into, however, is that if the request 
 hits the other CF server, it still forwards certain requests 
 back to 'failed' server due to clustering.  Is there any way 
 to turn this off, but still being able to maintain session 
 replication?

No, I don't think you can do this. Why would you want to? If you want to
take one of the servers offline, you'll need to stop the appropriate JRun
instances, I think.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Aaron Roberson
Jordan,

Thanks for your reply, I am not soliciting feedback from the folks at
New Atlanta alone. I really value the developer community's input and
would like to hear from more developers. From a BlueDragon web hosting
companies perspective, your feedback is very appreciated.

I would like to pool the opinions of MM/Adobe ColdFusion 6  7
developers, but I will also subscribe to the BlueDragon interest list
and get their perspective as well. Our board of directors are meeting
this Thursday, and I am trying to figure out if I should propose a new
purchase of CF 7 or BlueDragon 6.2.

-Aaron

On 1/17/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Aaron,

 I'm not from NewAtlanta, but seeing as my company is a BlueDragon
 Certified web host I am quite familiar with their software. You might
 consider re-posting this message to the BlueDragon mailing list and
 seeing if you don't get a better response.

 I've responded to your message in-line below:

 Aaron Roberson wrote:

 I have found that BD only supports CFML as it stands with CF 6. The
 price for BlueDragon Server JX is $899, whereas CF 7 Personal is
 $1,299 - but is the costs saved worth sacrificing the new feature set
 in CF 7?
 
 
 I suppose this question boils down to the feature set that you actually
 plan on using. If you don't plan on using any of the additional features
 that are currently available in CF7 and not in BD6.2, then why spend the
 additional $400? I don't know about you, but I can think of a lot of
 things I could do with a spare $400. In addition, BlueDragon comes with
 some features and tags that aren't included in CF7 - these features are
 unique to BlueDragon alone.

 For a great overview of the differences between BD and CF, take a look
 at the BlueDragon compatibility guide available on the NewAtlanta web site.

 BD Server JX comes with ServletExec, New Atlanta's J2EE from what I
 understand. This is included in the $899 price. However, to run BD on
 Tomcat, JRun or any other J2EE server the price for a 2CPU server is
 $5,999 - that doesn't include the cost of the J2EE server. However, CF
 7 Enterprise comes with JRun for the same price - $5,999. Is
 ServletExec comparable to JRun? If not, why pay $5,999 for BD Server
 J2EE PLUS $899 for JRun when you can buy CF 7 Enterprise with JRun
 included for $5,999?
 
 
 I've never used the J2EE version of BD, so I can't be much help in this
 area. However, I would imagine that one would not by BD J2EE for JRUN.
 Instead, they'd buy it for WebSphere, Tomcat, or some other J2EE server
 not normally associated with CF. Again, I'd recommend posting this
 message to the BlueDragon-interest list and see if you don't get better
 answers to this question.

 3 General Questions:
 
 1. Does BD Server JX compare to CF 6 Standard or Enterprise?
 
 
 CF 6 Standard.

 2. Will BD soon include the new CF 7 feature set?
 
 
 I know NewAtlanta is working on BD 7, but naturally they're keeping the
 details for themselves until things are more concrete.

 3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE servers?
 
 
 As far as I know, yes. ServletExec is one of NewAtlanta's flagship
 products - I'd imagine it'd be roughly comparable to most J2EE servers
 available. However, not that this is not my personal area of expertise,
 so you might get better information from the BD list or by contacting
 someone at NewAtlanta who's familiar with answering these types of
 questions.

 I would appreciate whatever feedback you may have and I look forward
 to hearing from someone at New Atlanta.
 
 -Aaron
 
 
 Hope this helps!

 --
 Warm regards,
 Jordan Michaels
 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Re: peer not authenticated

2006-01-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Mark...I'll check it out ;-)

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Aaron Roberson
Gmail is placing CF-Talk in my spam folder to... what is the solution
to this problem?

-Aaron

On 1/17/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design.  As long as they
 inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is
 non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere

 -Original Message-
 From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:48 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames


 All,
 I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was
 spam and tagged it thus.

 Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail
 account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the
 words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words
 george and abraham.)

 For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was
 addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting
 this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I
 found this in Gmail's FAQ.

 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messag
 es+dotctx=bugflow

 Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to
 usernames to me.

 George




 

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Re: BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Owner, Three Ravens Consulting
I have no expereince with Blue Dragon, but logically 
speaking, if CF has all the features that you want and 
need, and BD is lacking features, why go with the copyt 
when you can get the original at the same price?

Eric

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:23:49 -0800
  Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jordan,
 
 Thanks for your reply, I am not soliciting feedback from 
the folks at
 New Atlanta alone. I really value the developer 
community's input and
 would like to hear from more developers. From a 
BlueDragon web hosting
 companies perspective, your feedback is very 
appreciated.
 
 I would like to pool the opinions of MM/Adobe ColdFusion 
6  7
 developers, but I will also subscribe to the BlueDragon 
interest list
 and get their perspective as well. Our board of 
directors are meeting
 this Thursday, and I am trying to figure out if I should 
propose a new
 purchase of CF 7 or BlueDragon 6.2.
 
 -Aaron
 
 On 1/17/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Hi Aaron,

 I'm not from NewAtlanta, but seeing as my company is a 
BlueDragon
 Certified web host I am quite familiar with their 
software. You might
 consider re-posting this message to the BlueDragon 
mailing list and
 seeing if you don't get a better response.

 I've responded to your message in-line below:

 Aaron Roberson wrote:

 I have found that BD only supports CFML as it stands 
with CF 6. The
 price for BlueDragon Server JX is $899, whereas CF 7 
Personal is
 $1,299 - but is the costs saved worth sacrificing the 
new feature set
 in CF 7?
 
 
 I suppose this question boils down to the feature set 
that you actually
 plan on using. If you don't plan on using any of the 
additional features
 that are currently available in CF7 and not in BD6.2, 
then why spend the
 additional $400? I don't know about you, but I can think 
of a lot of
 things I could do with a spare $400. In addition, 
BlueDragon comes with
 some features and tags that aren't included in CF7 - 
these features are
 unique to BlueDragon alone.

 For a great overview of the differences between BD and 
CF, take a look
 at the BlueDragon compatibility guide available on the 
NewAtlanta web site.

 BD Server JX comes with ServletExec, New Atlanta's J2EE 
from what I
 understand. This is included in the $899 price. 
However, to run BD on
 Tomcat, JRun or any other J2EE server the price for a 
2CPU server is
 $5,999 - that doesn't include the cost of the J2EE 
server. However, CF
 7 Enterprise comes with JRun for the same price - 
$5,999. Is
 ServletExec comparable to JRun? If not, why pay $5,999 
for BD Server
 J2EE PLUS $899 for JRun when you can buy CF 7 
Enterprise with JRun
 included for $5,999?
 
 
 I've never used the J2EE version of BD, so I can't be 
much help in this
 area. However, I would imagine that one would not by BD 
J2EE for JRUN.
 Instead, they'd buy it for WebSphere, Tomcat, or some 
other J2EE server
 not normally associated with CF. Again, I'd recommend 
posting this
 message to the BlueDragon-interest list and see if you 
don't get better
 answers to this question.

 3 General Questions:
 
 1. Does BD Server JX compare to CF 6 Standard or 
Enterprise?
 
 
 CF 6 Standard.

 2. Will BD soon include the new CF 7 feature set?
 
 
 I know NewAtlanta is working on BD 7, but naturally 
they're keeping the
 details for themselves until things are more concrete.

 3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE 
servers?
 
 
 As far as I know, yes. ServletExec is one of 
NewAtlanta's flagship
 products - I'd imagine it'd be roughly comparable to 
most J2EE servers
 available. However, not that this is not my personal 
area of expertise,
 so you might get better information from the BD list or 
by contacting
 someone at NewAtlanta who's familiar with answering 
these types of
 questions.

 I would appreciate whatever feedback you may have and I 
look forward
 to hearing from someone at New Atlanta.
 
 -Aaron
 
 
 Hope this helps!

 --
 Warm regards,
 Jordan Michaels
 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 
 

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RE: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really
georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com.  I'm not positive, but when I read that page
you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore
anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham,
their server really created it as georgeabraham.  Otherwise they would
have conflicts, like you are describing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
 
 It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham 
 to sign up from
 using that name!
 
 Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design!


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Re: The best CFC book is...

2006-01-17 Thread Brian Kotek
Casey, I built it as an example of using both Fusebox 4.1 and using CFCs.
The CFC portion of the application is completely independent of the fact
that the UI controller layer is using Fusebox. In other words, the same CFCs
could be used in a Mach-II or Model-Glue frameworks (or no framework at all)
with very little modification.

On 1/17/06, Casey Dougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe knowing that folks are still looking at it will
  make me find that time.

 I don't like that one since it's got the word fusebox in it but,
 Brian I did start reading through your Polymorphism with ColdFusion
 Components on builder.com I like that one.

 That one is great, just an FYI my Cat eats Zebra for afternoon snacks. ;-)

 

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RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

2006-01-17 Thread Brian Polackoff
John,
I am sure many people will agree with me that if you need a good quality
POP3 tag, that is simple to implement strong with abilities then Paul's
CFX_POP3 tag is the way to go.  I have been using it in production
environment and thus far has processed over 35 thousand emails since October
of last year.

Additionally having needed support from Paul he is quick to answer.

Brian Polackoff
http://www.centuron.net


-Original Message-
From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Opinons on Mail Servers and Tags - CFPOP Sucks

John,

 That was one of the tags I mentioned in my original post.
 Thanks for the opinion.  That tag is so inexpensive that I 
 will try it just because of the price and your recommendation.

I write and maintain CFX_POP3 Std and Pro. One of your requirements in your
original post was platform independence and CFX_POP3 is not platform
independent. That is why I haven't mentioned it The tag is a pure
Windows dll so you wont get much mileage out of it on a Linux or other
platform ;)

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Re: BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Aaron Roberson
Eric,

I hate to say it, but I think I would even consider paying the extra
$400 knowing that a reputable company such as Adobe is standing behind
ColdFusion MX 7. I don't like the fact that Adobe is moving my
Macromedia MVLP license to an AOO (Adobe Open Options) license, so I
am investigating alternatives. So far, BlueDragon looks like a good
alternative, but not worth the current price. I'm still looking into
it...

-Aaron

On 1/17/06, Owner, Three Ravens Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have no expereince with Blue Dragon, but logically
 speaking, if CF has all the features that you want and
 need, and BD is lacking features, why go with the copyt
 when you can get the original at the same price?

 Eric

 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:23:49 -0800
   Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jordan,
 
  Thanks for your reply, I am not soliciting feedback from
 the folks at
  New Atlanta alone. I really value the developer
 community's input and
  would like to hear from more developers. From a
 BlueDragon web hosting
  companies perspective, your feedback is very
 appreciated.
 
  I would like to pool the opinions of MM/Adobe ColdFusion
 6  7
  developers, but I will also subscribe to the BlueDragon
 interest list
  and get their perspective as well. Our board of
 directors are meeting
  this Thursday, and I am trying to figure out if I should
 propose a new
  purchase of CF 7 or BlueDragon 6.2.
 
  -Aaron
 
  On 1/17/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi Aaron,
 
  I'm not from NewAtlanta, but seeing as my company is a
 BlueDragon
  Certified web host I am quite familiar with their
 software. You might
  consider re-posting this message to the BlueDragon
 mailing list and
  seeing if you don't get a better response.
 
  I've responded to your message in-line below:
 
  Aaron Roberson wrote:
 
  I have found that BD only supports CFML as it stands
 with CF 6. The
  price for BlueDragon Server JX is $899, whereas CF 7
 Personal is
  $1,299 - but is the costs saved worth sacrificing the
 new feature set
  in CF 7?
  
  
  I suppose this question boils down to the feature set
 that you actually
  plan on using. If you don't plan on using any of the
 additional features
  that are currently available in CF7 and not in BD6.2,
 then why spend the
  additional $400? I don't know about you, but I can think
 of a lot of
  things I could do with a spare $400. In addition,
 BlueDragon comes with
  some features and tags that aren't included in CF7 -
 these features are
  unique to BlueDragon alone.
 
  For a great overview of the differences between BD and
 CF, take a look
  at the BlueDragon compatibility guide available on the
 NewAtlanta web site.
 
  BD Server JX comes with ServletExec, New Atlanta's J2EE
 from what I
  understand. This is included in the $899 price.
 However, to run BD on
  Tomcat, JRun or any other J2EE server the price for a
 2CPU server is
  $5,999 - that doesn't include the cost of the J2EE
 server. However, CF
  7 Enterprise comes with JRun for the same price -
 $5,999. Is
  ServletExec comparable to JRun? If not, why pay $5,999
 for BD Server
  J2EE PLUS $899 for JRun when you can buy CF 7
 Enterprise with JRun
  included for $5,999?
  
  
  I've never used the J2EE version of BD, so I can't be
 much help in this
  area. However, I would imagine that one would not by BD
 J2EE for JRUN.
  Instead, they'd buy it for WebSphere, Tomcat, or some
 other J2EE server
  not normally associated with CF. Again, I'd recommend
 posting this
  message to the BlueDragon-interest list and see if you
 don't get better
  answers to this question.
 
  3 General Questions:
  
  1. Does BD Server JX compare to CF 6 Standard or
 Enterprise?
  
  
  CF 6 Standard.
 
  2. Will BD soon include the new CF 7 feature set?
  
  
  I know NewAtlanta is working on BD 7, but naturally
 they're keeping the
  details for themselves until things are more concrete.
 
  3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE
 servers?
  
  
  As far as I know, yes. ServletExec is one of
 NewAtlanta's flagship
  products - I'd imagine it'd be roughly comparable to
 most J2EE servers
  available. However, not that this is not my personal
 area of expertise,
  so you might get better information from the BD list or
 by contacting
  someone at NewAtlanta who's familiar with answering
 these types of
  questions.
 
  I would appreciate whatever feedback you may have and I
 look forward
  to hearing from someone at New Atlanta.
  
  -Aaron
  
  
  Hope this helps!
 
  --
  Warm regards,
  Jordan Michaels
  Vivio Technologies
  http://www.viviotech.net/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: cflocation/ie 6 bug - possible workaround

2006-01-17 Thread Catherine Alleva
Having the same problem..or similar. cflocation only works with IE 6 once in a 
while. I noticed the problem about a month ago. I tried the keep-alive fix but 
it didn't work. Still having the same problem. Only thing that seems to work is 
replacing all the cflocations with meta tags or cfheaders.

Catherine Alleva

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Re: cflocation/ie 6 bug - possible workaround

2006-01-17 Thread Catherine Alleva
Having the same problem..or similar. cflocation only works with IE 6 once in a 
while. I noticed the problem about a month ago. I tried the keep-alive fix but 
it didn't work. Still having the same problem. Only thing that seems to work is 
replacing all the cflocations with meta tags or cfheaders.

Catherine Alleva

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Re: Important for MM Folks concerning SSL Ceritificates and CFMX

2006-01-17 Thread Mark McDonald
So I am new to this forum... found you trying to solve a problem... I seem to 
be having the same problem as described in these posts included below... can't 
get CFHTTP to work on an SSL site.  I keep getting a Connection Failure.

Since I don't host my site and will have to work through my hosting service to 
get them to implement this solution, I wanted to check if the recommended 
solution here was still current since these posts are a few years old.  

Any suggestions on how to solve this without having to get my hosting service 
involved or is there a more current solution??

Thanks Mark



 This may or may not be in the docs but I haven't seen any references 
 to it
 yet aside from a technote concerning CFLDAP and SSL communication. 
 I'm
 finding that for most of our internal SSL sites I need to manually 
 import
 each web servers SSL certificate into the keystore for the JRE used by 
 CFMX
 in order to enable HTTPS communication either by CFHTTP of CFLDAP. I 
 think
 this needs to be highlighted *somewhere* because with CF5 this was not 
 the
 case...this had me believing there was a bug in CFMX throughout the 
 entire
 beta testing cycle and has caused me to waste countless hours !!!  
 :-(
 
 
 
 
 Here's what to do if you're having SSL com problems:
 
 
 
 
 * Goto a page on the SSL server in question
 * Double click on the lock icon
 * Goto details tab
 * Click on COPY TO FILE
 * Choose base64 option and save the file
 * Copy the CER file into  C:\CFusionMX\runtime\jre\lib\security  (or
 whichever JRE CFMX is using)
 * Run this commandline in that same directory (keytool.exe is located
 in C:\CFusionMX\runtime\jre\bin)
 
 
 
 
 keytool -import -keystore cacerts -alias giveUniqueName -file filename.
 cer
 
 
 
 
 * Default password is changeit or change it
 * Upon successful import restart CFMX and now CFHTTP and CFLDAP over
 SSL will work with that particular site
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Stacy Young
 
 System Integration Specialist, Architecture
 
 Surefire Commerce
 
 http://www.sfcommerce.com http://www.sfcommerce.com 
 
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 (f) 514-380-2760
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: BlueDragon vs. ColdFusion 6/7

2006-01-17 Thread Sean Corfield
On 1/17/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 3. Is ServletExec comparable to enterprise J2EE servers?
 As far as I know, yes. ServletExec is one of NewAtlanta's flagship
 products - I'd imagine it'd be roughly comparable to most J2EE servers
 available.

ServetExec supports JSP and the Servlet container spec. It is not a
J2EE server (JSP and Servlets are just part of the J2EE spec).
ServletExec is comparable to Tomcat, on that basis.

WebLogic, WebSphere and JRun are all full J2EE servers, supporting
EJBs and all the other J2EE goodness (JMX, JMS etc etc etc).
--
Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
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OpenSource CMS

2006-01-17 Thread Daniel Hikel
Hello !!

Does anybody know a good OpenSource CMS on CFMX 6 Linux. I looked a litte
around and found Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) but it seems to work
only on Windows plattforms.

Thanks in advance


Daniel


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Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames

2006-01-17 Thread Tony
but why, i wonder do they do that?
i mean, you'd think that google has a guru of the regex kind
there in-house that could handle it so that those are really TWO
different addresses.

im glad it isnt like that, i wouldnt want anyone else to
have tony DOT weeg AT gmail DOT com, no way!  but still
kinda odd i think?

tw



On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really
 georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com.  I'm not positive, but when I read that page
 you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore
 anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham,
 their server really created it as georgeabraham.  Otherwise they would
 have conflicts, like you are describing.

  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
 
  It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham
  to sign up from
  using that name!
 
  Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design!


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Re: OpenSource CMS

2006-01-17 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 1/18/06, Daniel Hikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody know a good OpenSource CMS on CFMX 6 Linux. I looked a litte
 around and found Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) but it seems to work
 only on Windows plattforms.

Actually FarCry runs fine on Linux.  There are just no specific tar
balls available for download.  You can retrieve the code base direct
from CVS or drop a note to the developer mailing list -- there is
bound to be someone who can give you a tar-ball of a recent milestone
release.

The most recent 3.0 release has a few casing issues with filenames
under linux so I'd be aiming to get a copy of the release candidate
for 3.01 by getting the latest code from the p300 branch -- fixes
should already be in place there.

Again best to join the farcry-dev list for more detailed help:
http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev/about

Or post through the web forum (which is linked to the mailing list):
http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html

Hope that helps,

-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/

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Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Milquetoast Limpet
Has anyone had any experience working with Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte
NC?  I am in the Interview process with them and would welcome any opinions
on what it is like to work for them.

Also any input on living in Charlotte would be welcome too.

http://www.garrisonenterprises.net/

Thanks in advance,
The Incredible Mr. Limpet


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RE: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Phillip M. Vector
In case they are listening in on the list and want to start up an argument,
I sent you the details off list.

Suffice it to say, for anyone else interested, is run. Fast.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Milquetoast Limpet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:01 PM
 To: CF-Jobs-Talk
 Subject: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC
 
 Has anyone had any experience working with Garrison 
 Enterprises in Charlotte NC?  I am in the Interview process 
 with them and would welcome any opinions on what it is like 
 to work for them.
 
 Also any input on living in Charlotte would be welcome too.
 
 http://www.garrisonenterprises.net/
 
 Thanks in advance,
 The Incredible Mr. Limpet
 
 
 

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RE: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

2006-01-17 Thread Christian N. Abad
I don't know anything about Garrison Enterprises, but Charlotte is a
fantastic place to work and play.  I can't say enough good things about this
progressive city with its Southern charm.

If you'd like more information, contact me off list and we'll chat.

Cheers and Good Luck!

~Christian N. Abad
President - Accessible Computing, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Milquetoast Limpet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:01 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte NC

Has anyone had any experience working with Garrison Enterprises in Charlotte
NC?  I am in the Interview process with them and would welcome any opinions
on what it is like to work for them.

Also any input on living in Charlotte would be welcome too.

http://www.garrisonenterprises.net/

Thanks in advance,
The Incredible Mr. Limpet




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Re: new programmer question

2006-01-17 Thread Mik Muller
What I found helped was creating an active 
community website in CF and showing it as a resume item.

Doing so shows some modicum of design capability, 
obviously programming skills, cooperative / 
organizational skills as well as self-motivation skills.

A certificate could help, sure, but frankly they 
were more interested in how I did some stuff, and 
that I obviously knew what I was doing. Not 
having a college degree hurt me a little, and 
down-graded my starting income just a tiny bit, 
but after a few months I got a promotion and a 
7.5% raise since I skilled out of the position I 
was hired for, so in the end it worked out.

Go in confident, knowing what you're talking about.

Mik


At 06:08 PM 1/17/2006, you wrote:
  What is the best way for a programmer to  gain 
 enough experience in CF to make him hirable to 
 a company? I've  played with CF for years, 
 would like to move from sys admin to  programmer as my primary job.

   Would a macromedia certification help?


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